WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: David Alan Grier Talks 'Magical Negroes', Comedy Competition, In Living Color + More 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:02.520 Wake that ass up in the morning. 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:07.240 The Breakfast Club, yep, Charlamagne to God, just hilarious. 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:08.200 We are the Breakfast Club. 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:10.400 Ndia's not here today, but we got a legend in 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:10.960 the building. 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:16.800 Man, the great David Allen grizz Man. Y'all have changed, 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:22.279 m elevated and all kind of new host when you 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:27.120 had a chair, sir. No, it's good to be here, man, 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:30.840 just one. I'm great. Man, woke up. That's right, you know, 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:31.360 that's right. 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:33.760 I'm here. You look so good still? 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.199 Not that is that a? Yeah? It is? You look 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.920 so good still? You know you always. 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.239 So Now I love it. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:49.680 I'm the American Society of Magical Negroes, Yes, sir, What 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:50.760 is this movie about? 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.320 Well, you know, magical negro was a trope that Spike 0:00:55.440 --> 0:01:01.280 Lee coined back in the nineties, and Negroes that character. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.920 We all know. He's all knowing, all wise, black character, 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:09.119 no backstory, no family. He was just a dude hanging 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.400 around and he had to answer for everything. He was like, 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:16.600 I can fix that rocket ship, you know, driving Miss 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:21.639 Daisy the Green Mile. You know we've seen all that stuff. 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:26.280 So it's about a society, a mysical society of these 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:30.000 black people all over the world that de escalate and 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:35.200 intercede in conflicts with white folks to save and preserve 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:38.360 black lives. That's basically what it is. 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.880 Yeah, it was interesting to watch and a lot to 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.240 think about because I feel like black people we do 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.039 have that kind of power, right, we do have that 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.480 kind of magic, but just like in the movie, we 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:54.160 don't use it the harm anyone or takeover you know. 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.560 No, it's it's about survival, yes, really, And my character 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:03.080 is I'm trying to recruit this young dude by played 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:08.639 by Justice Smith and get him into the society. And 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:12.440 I'm a recruiter basically, you know. And of course he 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:16.160 doesn't follow the rules as young people do. And the 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:17.440 movie takes gone from there. 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:19.839 That is it a movie for white people? 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.040 Because the title itself, they wouldn't even be comfortable saying it. 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:27.200 But like, you know what, you'd be surprised the reaction people, 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.800 the reaction to the clip. You know, this is the 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.640 world we live in. Nobody saw the movie. They just 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.959 reacted to the clip. White people would come to me, 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:37.080 can I say that? 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:38.320 I was like, say what. 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.160 The in word? I was like what in word? So 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:47.320 it was like negro is the other in word, it 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.560 was like, y'all are more worried about negro than you 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.919 are the real in words, So that was a paradox. 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.160 I mean, I'm older than you, guys. I grew up 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.720 in a time in which, during this civil rights struggle 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:04.040 we aspire to be called negroes as opposed to but 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:08.519 that was long ago. So it's a sorry, it's a satire. 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:12.560 It's a commentary on all of that whole notion, a 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.120 little love story and all of that mixed together. 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.480 But it's interesting though, because in the movie, like you know, 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.519 they are trying to make white people comfortable, but it's 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.320 a movie that will make them uncomfortable. 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.320 I think, yes, well that's the subversion, because you know, 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.280 some black people like, well we will make nobody comfortable. Yeah, 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.520 I think some black people want it to be like 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:40.200 like the Magical Society would be really a subversive, militant 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.600 group taking out all racist white folks. But that's not 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.760 really a movie. That's not really this movie. But yeah, man, 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:48.680 I mean that's what we're doing. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.480 But when you make a movie, you wanted to I 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.960 guess reach a broad audience, right, or do. 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.680 You care if this one does? Always? All? 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:55.840 Right? 0:03:56.160 --> 0:04:00.400 I mean, that is the goal. But you know Toby, 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:04.840 our writer and director, he's the first time writer director black. 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:08.480 And I say that because I've been asked a lot 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:10.920 of times. You know, what was your first question after 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.800 I read the script? Well, my first question is did 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.960 a black person write this? Because I'm gonna tell you why. 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.000 If I would have been told, oh, this is the 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.599 first time white director, I don't know if I would 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.880 have done it because I didn't want to spend six 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.360 to eight weeks and believe me, I've done this. Well, 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:35.280 I have to explain black exactly. Man, I can't say this, 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.440 this is offensive. You need to rethink this. I didn't 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.719 want to. That's why. Yeah, No, I didn't want to 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.000 do that. So once I found that out, I said, okay. 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:48.960 And I like working with young directors of color, young 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:56.000 women of color directors, you know, because I call it. 0:04:56.000 --> 0:05:00.360 It's why my way of mentoring in terms of of 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:05.440 I want to show you how you should be treated 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.839 on a set as a young director, because I've seen 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.800 I've been in situations in which the director is arguing 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:17.000 with the cinematographer, with the lighting designer. You can't do that. 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.440 I want to shoot no and we're not gonna do that. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.559 So I, you know, I wanted to kind of show 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.240 through action, this is how it should be run. We 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:26.680 didn't have any trouble. It was you know, it was 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:28.160 a great, great experience. 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.600 So you played Roger. Yeah, so when you first were 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.599 presented the role, what about it like got you interested 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:36.960 in being a sci fi comedy doing it? 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.680 Well, you know, I know black men like that. I mean, 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.080 I was exposed to when I when I was young 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:47.039 and growing up in Detroit. My dad was a doctor. 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.719 I grew up around doctors, lawyer's, professional black families. But 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:52.760 I didn't want that. I wanted to be an artist. 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:56.560 I wanted to be an actor. So I got that 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:00.760 he should go to law school. Yeah, that kind of thing. 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:05.960 It's funny. My grandmother was born in nineteen hundred, so 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.719 she would tell me stories much like the one I 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:12.320 say in the movie about these racist incidents and then 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:16.640 are segregated America in the South, And as a little boy, 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.200 I would say, well, Grandma, why didn't you fight back? 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:21.880 And she would say that was the way it was, 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.000 you know, and I don't want that. 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:26.359 Yeah, I didn't want that. 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:30.400 I'm gonna fight back. So that's always the way it 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.280 is the next generation. They don't want to wait. They 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:37.279 don't want to wait. John Lewis was the radical young 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:41.160 voice in the movement, and he was the one advocating, 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:45.039 we gotta yell louder, we have to fight harder. I'm 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:48.720 tired of marching and praying. So there's always that friction. 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:52.960 So a lot of that is goes on between me 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.960 and Justice where he's like negroes, I mean, magical man, 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.360 Come on, why don't you magical society of black folks? 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.000 I mean do something about the name, you know. So 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:02.840 there's all that playfulness and stuff. 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.279 It felt like justin throughout the whole movie was struggling 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:06.799 with belief in himself. 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:12.840 Well. Absolutely. It all leads up to that final speech 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.640 where it to me, it really hits home. I just 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:22.440 want to live in a society and you, when you're 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.280 not trying to kill me, I deserve to be here, 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:29.240 be in this presence. Uh. One of the one of 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:34.000 the craziest b linds when he's talking to his white 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:37.000 co worker and they're talking about on Lee, who's a 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:41.120 love interest, and uh, Justice calls him out about some 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.600 microaggression and he says, well, I didn't know she was 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.119 a personal color. I thought she was white, so therefore 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.000 I'm could, you know, you know, it's like, what was 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:58.640 she white? I couldn't. She's biracial and nobody. I've had 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:03.080 situations like that, why, you know, or a black person 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:07.800 who is mainly Afro Caribbean and they're saying some foul stuff. Well, 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.960 I don't know. I didn't know. So if I'm in 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:14.200 the clear, you know, and all those nuances that I 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.240 really like because it's real too. I mean, I know, 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.280 I've been through it. Yeah, and it's funny. 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.360 You talked about the backlash, and I guess I saw 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.600 a little bit of it when the trailer first debut, 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:26.440 and it was like they making a movie and it's a. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.120 Bunch of black people with magical power, but they try 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.960 to make white people. They wanted they cloned Tyrone, they 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.520 wanted us to come out with gun you know, No, 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:37.880 that's not what it is. And but you know, I 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.840 was never worried because at that point nobody had seen 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.560 the movie. Again, you're responding to a thirty second clip. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.679 But that's the world we live in. Yeah, it's you know, 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:50.960 social media, people go say what they're gonna say, yeah. 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:52.480 I didn't look at it that they were trying to 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.440 make white people comfortable in the movie. I looked at 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.319 it as they were trying to be comfortable, like they 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:01.560 were trying to just figure life out into exactly. 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:03.800 Now, I'll tell you something. This happened when I was 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:07.400 in tenth grade in Detroit. I remember a Detroit police 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.679 officer was brought into a class my classroom, and he 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:15.400 walked us through surviving a stop with the police. Now, 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.160 I doubt if it happens now. So he basically he 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.760 gave us the talk and it went like this. He said, 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.080 you know, when a police officer pulls you over, what 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.000 are you gonna do? When we were kids, I'm not 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:27.800 gonna do anohing. I'm gonna say why'd you pull me over? 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.760 And he said, well, you could say that, but what 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.079 I would suggest is you keep your hands on the 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:35.319 steering wheel and you roll down the window. Well, why 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.520 he can't make me roll down the window? Absolutely right, 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:42.720 But keep in mind that gentleman has a firearm. You 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.440 probably don't now he's upset with a firearm. I would 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.360 suggest you roll down the window because if you don't 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.920 roll it down, he's gonna break it. So we went 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:55.559 point by point by point by point how to survive. 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.280 You can fight in court. Now, you could fight at 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.840 the roadside, but you have a better chance of survival 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.440 to fight in court. So those are the kinds of 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.880 things that I experienced as a young person, and I 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.360 think a lot of that goes into that character. I'm 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.840 not that character, but I understand that character. You know 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:17.679 that kind of thing. 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:22.560 Why don't just why in your opinion, why don't you 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:26.160 think we use our gifts more too? 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.280 I don't want to say takeover. I don't think takeover 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:30.040 is the right word. 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.360 But I keep thinking about that sister who once said 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.520 white people should be lucky. Black people only want equality 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:36.160 and not well, I. 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:40.200 Was just about to say that. I don't know. I mean, 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:45.240 I can't speak for everyone, but I think it's funny 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:49.040 what justice says at the end is what most human 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.120 beings want. I just want my space. I want to 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.920 be able to live and prosper in peace. I don't 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:59.679 want to have to fight for my survival. Imagine you 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:03.760 could be killed, maimed, robbed, your loved ones in peril 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.080 every day, and for some black people it is that way. 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.520 We want. What everyone wants. What we want is not extraordinary, 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:15.400 not any different. We want the same thing. So all 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:19.160 of the stuff that's put on race, culture, and ethnicity, 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:24.520 for the most part, is false because we're human beings 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.199 just like everybody else. So the stuff we're fighting for 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:32.239 is freedom to be free. Maybe we should be more revengeful. 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:37.119 I don't know some folks are in Hollywood. 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.240 Is there such thing as having to make white people 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:40.760 comfortable in order to work? 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.679 No? But I mean, you know what I think back, 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.520 You know, I audition for some of the magical negro roles. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:55.360 I was just too crazy to get them. The Davis 0:11:55.400 --> 0:12:00.520 reading for Rassus, I'll drive you. I was always to 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:05.959 nuddy to my to my benefit, you know. But h yeah, man, 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.679 we all dorew I mean, not everybody, but those because 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.920 you know, in the eighties there was Eddie Murphy was 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.440 before Spike Lee and these other voices. He was the 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:19.520 black comic lead, you know, who took over for Richard Pryor. 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.800 But now we have all these black creators, black female creators, 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:32.720 say Ava du Vernay, who's a revolutionary, you know, So 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:37.040 we have more voices. That makes it healthier. The one 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:41.720 question I hate is you know, Charlemagne, what do all 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:47.240 black people think? Charlemagne, Charlemagne, what do all black people want? Charlemagne, Charlemagne? 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.440 Who are all black people going to vote for? I 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:53.680 don't know, you know what I mean? I encourage everyone 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:55.960 to vote. I'm not sitting here trying to tell you 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:57.960 who are what to vote for. But we have a 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:04.000 healthier democracy when more people participate. So that's where I'm met. Now. 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.480 Speaking of voices, you are the voice of the Oscar. 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:12.000 Yeah, you know, it was so much fun. Man. I'm 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.040 old friends with Jimmy Kimmel, and first of all, I 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.480 defy you to tell me who was the voice last year. 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.120 So you have been offered a job like it was 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:21.880 really great, but you don't even know what the job is. 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.520 So my first question was, well, how many tickets do 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:28.880 I get? I was thinking about the party. You know, 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.760 I have a sixteen year old daughter and when she 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.320 was a little girl, she said, Daddy, take me to 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.400 the Oscars. And if you have little kids, they think 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:40.560 you could do everything. I was like, okay, I mean, 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:42.679 but you got to get a movie, and you got 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.719 to finance the movie, and you got to cast me, 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.000 Daddy in the lead in the movie, and then you 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:48.959 gotta hope Daddy gets nominated for an Oscar. Then we 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.040 all gonna go to the Oscars. And she was like, 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:54.000 you're so silly. So it was great to take her 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.480 to the Oscars and we had a great evening and 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.760 it turned out to be a ball man. I mean, 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.280 my job was not to screw up anybody's name and 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:06.760 don't mess up the name of the movie. But I 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.319 didn't really. I wasn't on under pressure. It was, you know, 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.800 I'm cool. It was really really fun. Though. 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.079 What do you think about people supporting this movie like 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.160 the American Society and Magical Negroes and you hear that 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.840 automatically all black people feel like they should go out 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.240 and support this film. What do you feel like if 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:24.280 they don't listen. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.280 I would not be here if I didn't believe in 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:31.200 the movie. I would say, go watch it. If you 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.120 don't want to watch it, that's fine. I ain't gonna 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.760 come to your house and you know, kill you. We 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.640 all have a choice. It should be an evening of entertainment, 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.680 and a great viewing experience is one that elongates a 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.200 conversation because you know, good and well, if you see 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.120 a great show or if you see a great movie, 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.280 what are you gonna do. You're gonna text your friends, 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:52.360 You're gonna tell your loved ones. Man, you gotta come 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.800 see this. So if we're successful, that's what should happen. 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.560 And again, I you know, I think the movie is 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.520 really funny. It's a new voice, a new black voice 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:07.040 that I really love to support. And hopefully he will 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:10.880 hire me again, you know, But that's why I'm here. 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:12.960 I feel like it's set up for a sequel. Yeah, 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:17.840 I don't know, I hope so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.320 it was fun man. And you know, only this young 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.920 the love interest. This is her first job. I think 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.880 really like dang girl. She came out blazing. Man, I 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.080 think she's really good. I'm just glad you're not white. 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.200 I don't want to get a movie away, but I 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.440 was perturbed at the end. 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.560 I'm like, if you really you know, but if you 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.880 really listen, that is really kind of where they connect 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.160 in that basis. And also they don't really we do 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:50.520 touch on justices. He's a biracial kid, because I think 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.120 at one point he tells me you know this and that, 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.920 But I'm just like, you black enough to be a 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:59.920 magical Negro come join our club. You know, it's Matt. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.400 I Also it made me think like the magical Negro trope. 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:05.480 And I know Spike Lee made it up, but isn't 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.480 that's something that like white people think in a way, 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.880 It's like like Barack Obama is a magical need. 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:14.120 But they they created it. We didn't create it. We 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:20.920 didn't create that. No white people did. And traditionally to 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:24.720 have that character with that is not a whole human 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:29.640 that is like a spirit, a cipher. I mean, this 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:33.640 is like an angelic figure. You know, That's not what 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:38.480 we wanted. What we wanted is to be included as 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:43.560 whole people, whole human beings. But ultimately, you can't depend 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.960 on someone else to tell your story. You have to 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.480 tell it yourself. Now, the way it used to be, 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.240 we weren't allowed to tell it ourselves, and I still 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:56.320 got up until a few years ago. David, we like 0:16:56.400 --> 0:17:00.000 your idea, but it's not us. It's the international mark. 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.160 You know, Black movies are very hard to sell, this 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.719 and that, so there's still all of that out there. 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:14.200 But in fact, mixed race casts of big movies are 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:18.240 the biggest sellers in the world market. The fast and 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:23.439 furious franchise Say What you Want has the most diverse 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.280 cast probably of any franchise, and it is the biggest 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:31.440 selling and one of the reasons is that. Okay, so 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:35.159 for a long time we were sold a story that 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:39.760 was not true. And we're changing. I say, we the industry, 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:43.399 they whatever you want to call it, not enough, but 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:44.360 we're changing. 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:46.960 You know, I think Hollywood lies. And the reason I 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:51.560 say Hollywood lies, they do. They'll say, oh, you know, 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.120 it's it's about the money. But I know, I think 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.000 your bias is trump the money a lot of times. 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:00.920 Well also power. You know. I remember remember when Barack 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.160 Obama was first elected and I was watching I think 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.600 it was in an MSNBC, and the reporters were just 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:10.560 giddy because it's a fact that the electorate is changing 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:14.840 and becoming blacker and browner every day, and yay, we're 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.399 going to be in power. And I sat at home going, 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:23.440 you don't think white people can hear you. You don't 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:30.000 think they're listening, because to expect someone to relinquish power 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:36.560 gracefully is a fantasy. To expect the old power structure 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:41.280 to say, well, it's our turn and give us the keys. Okay, 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.760 it doesn't go like that, And I think that really 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:48.919 is at the root of what we're seeing now because 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.480 if the electorate is changing now all of a sudden, 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.480 you hear the maga crowd going, well, maybe a dictator 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:59.960 is not that bad because the numbers are not working 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.520 in there, So you know that's what it is. I 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:07.679 knew this was coming because you know, it's just it 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.160 through history and never gone like that. 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:12.760 Being an o G in comedy and I'm a comedian myself, 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.639 so I would like to know this. What are your 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:19.080 throws on all like the beef with the comics and 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.520 everything that's going on right now. 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:23.160 First of all, what I was going to say when 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:24.520 I walked in here, as I said, you need some 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:28.680 brown lick up in here? Common over there? No, no, 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:34.440 you need it right here now. It's common sense. Watch club. 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:41.359 I love it's the ratio of SIPs, ma'am. He takes 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:45.080 one sip while the guest is taking five or six. 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.480 I saw Mounique about it. After hour in she was 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:53.119 licking up. She would lubricated. I don't think Sharon drinking 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.680 it all. No, man, watch it again, he's real slick, 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.040 he goes. I think that's Charlie, Man, who you want 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:04.040 to kill every I won't kill everybody, you know? He said, here, 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:09.760 have some more. He was like, charl man, you want 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:13.159 to slap everybody? You know? Man, you didn't get me 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.720 up in there. My advice is bring your own cop. 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:19.520 Bring your own cop. Man. Stop drinking. What is in 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:23.080 that bottle? Damn y'all man, that's not really my thing. Man, 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:25.800 I don't do all that. And at this point, if 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.760 somebody goes on Club shad Shape, they're loaded. I mean 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.439 they packed. You're going there for a purpose. You're not 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:33.920 going there to talk about your big new novel you wrote. 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:37.480 You're trying to settle some scores. It's crazy, man, it 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.840 is crazy. I'm just a spectator. I don't think I've 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:44.600 seen one interview in its entirety because they go like 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:48.960 two three hours. Yeah, I've seen clips. It's bizarre. I'm like, y'all, 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:52.840 I'm drinking coffee, going damn, I guess they don't like 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:54.720 each other. Yes, yeah, man. 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:56.720 It does make me wonder what happens to the game, 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.080 because when I think about the nineties, you feel like, 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.159 at least from my viewpoint, it looked like everybody was 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:04.560 working together, right, it looked like there was you know, black. 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:09.920 There's always been that we're human beings. There's always been petty, jealousy, envy, 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.720 I want your spot. You mad about some stuff that 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:17.359 happened in club dingling back and you know, twenty years 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:20.840 ago and now it's just coming to the fore. It's 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.680 human nature. But it's just not my vibe. Yeah, it's 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.080 not my vibe. You know, we can talk outside. Man, 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.000 I ain't got to blow you up on the air, 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.040 but it is wild. I don't know where it's going 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:36.159 to lead, you know. Uh, it's funny. When Cat was 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:38.760 on there, everybody was, oh my gosh, this is amazing. 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:42.639 Now they're like, no, this is is a lot club. 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:47.600 Everybody's mad while like a. 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:57.800 Cat drink drinking like that he was, but Cat wasn't. 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:00.000 He wasn't drinking like everybody else be drink. 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:04.640 Usually. Cat was a man. Cat is a unique individual. 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:10.959 This brother has sprint speed, sprint speed. Yeah, and you 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:13.119 know when I look at him, I think about what 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:17.399 he did on Atlanta that was so brilliant. Emmy. I 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:21.480 would really love to see him in a more expanded 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:25.160 dramatic role. I really don't think anyone's tapped that part 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:28.639 of him because he was so good, so real. He 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:31.800 reminds me of that aspect of Richard Pryor, like when 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:35.399 you see Richard Pryor in a blue collar It was 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:38.000 one of my favorites where it was funny, but it 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:42.679 was also about class and the auto industry and all 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:44.560 this stuff. So that's what I would hope for. 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:46.359 I'm sure if I dug around, I could find some 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:49.679 like psychological studies on why comedians are able to go 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:53.199 between drama and comedy so easily, Like guess, really a 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:55.080 thin line between comedy. 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:59.800