1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club, yep, Charlamagne to God, just hilarious. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: Ndia's not here today, but we got a legend in 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 2: the building. 6 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Man, the great David Allen grizz Man. Y'all have changed, 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: m elevated and all kind of new host when you 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: had a chair, sir. No, it's good to be here, man, 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: just one. I'm great. Man, woke up. That's right, you know, 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: that's right. 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: I'm here. You look so good still? 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: Not that is that a? Yeah? It is? You look 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: so good still? You know you always. 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 3: So Now I love it. 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: I'm the American Society of Magical Negroes, Yes, sir, What 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: is this movie about? 17 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: Well, you know, magical negro was a trope that Spike 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: Lee coined back in the nineties, and Negroes that character. 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: We all know. He's all knowing, all wise, black character, 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: no backstory, no family. He was just a dude hanging 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: around and he had to answer for everything. He was like, 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: I can fix that rocket ship, you know, driving Miss 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 1: Daisy the Green Mile. You know we've seen all that stuff. 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: So it's about a society, a mysical society of these 25 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: black people all over the world that de escalate and 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: intercede in conflicts with white folks to save and preserve 27 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: black lives. That's basically what it is. 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting to watch and a lot to 29 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: think about because I feel like black people we do 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: have that kind of power, right, we do have that 31 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: kind of magic, but just like in the movie, we 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: don't use it the harm anyone or takeover you know. 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: No, it's it's about survival, yes, really, And my character 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: is I'm trying to recruit this young dude by played 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: by Justice Smith and get him into the society. And 36 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm a recruiter basically, you know. And of course he 37 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: doesn't follow the rules as young people do. And the 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: movie takes gone from there. 39 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 3: That is it a movie for white people? 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: Because the title itself, they wouldn't even be comfortable saying it. 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: But like, you know what, you'd be surprised the reaction people, 42 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: the reaction to the clip. You know, this is the 43 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: world we live in. Nobody saw the movie. They just 44 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: reacted to the clip. White people would come to me, 45 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: can I say that? 46 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: I was like, say what. 47 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: The in word? I was like what in word? So 48 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: it was like negro is the other in word, it 49 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: was like, y'all are more worried about negro than you 50 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: are the real in words, So that was a paradox. 51 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm older than you, guys. I grew up 52 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: in a time in which, during this civil rights struggle 53 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: we aspire to be called negroes as opposed to but 54 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: that was long ago. So it's a sorry, it's a satire. 55 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: It's a commentary on all of that whole notion, a 56 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: little love story and all of that mixed together. 57 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: But it's interesting though, because in the movie, like you know, 58 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 2: they are trying to make white people comfortable, but it's 59 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: a movie that will make them uncomfortable. 60 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: I think, yes, well that's the subversion, because you know, 61 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: some black people like, well we will make nobody comfortable. Yeah, 62 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: I think some black people want it to be like 63 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: like the Magical Society would be really a subversive, militant 64 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: group taking out all racist white folks. But that's not 65 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: really a movie. That's not really this movie. But yeah, man, 66 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: I mean that's what we're doing. 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: But when you make a movie, you wanted to I 68 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: guess reach a broad audience, right, or do. 69 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: You care if this one does? Always? All? 70 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 4: Right? 71 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that is the goal. But you know Toby, 72 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: our writer and director, he's the first time writer director black. 73 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: And I say that because I've been asked a lot 74 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: of times. You know, what was your first question after 75 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: I read the script? Well, my first question is did 76 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: a black person write this? Because I'm gonna tell you why. 77 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: If I would have been told, oh, this is the 78 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: first time white director, I don't know if I would 79 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: have done it because I didn't want to spend six 80 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: to eight weeks and believe me, I've done this. Well, 81 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: I have to explain black exactly. Man, I can't say this, 82 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: this is offensive. You need to rethink this. I didn't 83 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: want to. That's why. Yeah, No, I didn't want to 84 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: do that. So once I found that out, I said, okay. 85 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: And I like working with young directors of color, young 86 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: women of color directors, you know, because I call it. 87 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: It's why my way of mentoring in terms of of 88 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: I want to show you how you should be treated 89 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: on a set as a young director, because I've seen 90 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: I've been in situations in which the director is arguing 91 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: with the cinematographer, with the lighting designer. You can't do that. 92 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: I want to shoot no and we're not gonna do that. 93 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,559 Speaker 1: So I, you know, I wanted to kind of show 94 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: through action, this is how it should be run. We 95 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: didn't have any trouble. It was you know, it was 96 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: a great, great experience. 97 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 4: So you played Roger. Yeah, so when you first were 98 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 4: presented the role, what about it like got you interested 99 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 4: in being a sci fi comedy doing it? 100 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I know black men like that. I mean, 101 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: I was exposed to when I when I was young 102 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: and growing up in Detroit. My dad was a doctor. 103 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: I grew up around doctors, lawyer's, professional black families. But 104 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: I didn't want that. I wanted to be an artist. 105 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to be an actor. So I got that 106 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: he should go to law school. Yeah, that kind of thing. 107 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: It's funny. My grandmother was born in nineteen hundred, so 108 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: she would tell me stories much like the one I 109 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: say in the movie about these racist incidents and then 110 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: are segregated America in the South, And as a little boy, 111 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: I would say, well, Grandma, why didn't you fight back? 112 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: And she would say that was the way it was, 113 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, and I don't want that. 114 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't want that. 115 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight back. So that's always the way it 116 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: is the next generation. They don't want to wait. They 117 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: don't want to wait. John Lewis was the radical young 118 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: voice in the movement, and he was the one advocating, 119 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: we gotta yell louder, we have to fight harder. I'm 120 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: tired of marching and praying. So there's always that friction. 121 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: So a lot of that is goes on between me 122 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: and Justice where he's like negroes, I mean, magical man, 123 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: Come on, why don't you magical society of black folks? 124 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: I mean do something about the name, you know. So 125 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: there's all that playfulness and stuff. 126 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: It felt like justin throughout the whole movie was struggling 127 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 2: with belief in himself. 128 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: Well. Absolutely. It all leads up to that final speech 129 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: where it to me, it really hits home. I just 130 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: want to live in a society and you, when you're 131 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: not trying to kill me, I deserve to be here, 132 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: be in this presence. Uh. One of the one of 133 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: the craziest b linds when he's talking to his white 134 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: co worker and they're talking about on Lee, who's a 135 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: love interest, and uh, Justice calls him out about some 136 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: microaggression and he says, well, I didn't know she was 137 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,119 Speaker 1: a personal color. I thought she was white, so therefore 138 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm could, you know, you know, it's like, what was 139 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: she white? I couldn't. She's biracial and nobody. I've had 140 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: situations like that, why, you know, or a black person 141 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: who is mainly Afro Caribbean and they're saying some foul stuff. Well, 142 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't know. So if I'm in 143 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: the clear, you know, and all those nuances that I 144 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: really like because it's real too. I mean, I know, 145 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: I've been through it. Yeah, and it's funny. 146 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: You talked about the backlash, and I guess I saw 147 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: a little bit of it when the trailer first debut, 148 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: and it was like they making a movie and it's a. 149 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: Bunch of black people with magical power, but they try 150 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: to make white people. They wanted they cloned Tyrone, they 151 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: wanted us to come out with gun you know, No, 152 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: that's not what it is. And but you know, I 153 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: was never worried because at that point nobody had seen 154 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: the movie. Again, you're responding to a thirty second clip. 155 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: But that's the world we live in. Yeah, it's you know, 156 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: social media, people go say what they're gonna say, yeah. 157 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: I didn't look at it that they were trying to 158 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: make white people comfortable in the movie. I looked at 159 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 2: it as they were trying to be comfortable, like they 160 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: were trying to just figure life out into exactly. 161 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: Now, I'll tell you something. This happened when I was 162 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: in tenth grade in Detroit. I remember a Detroit police 163 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: officer was brought into a class my classroom, and he 164 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: walked us through surviving a stop with the police. Now, 165 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: I doubt if it happens now. So he basically he 166 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: gave us the talk and it went like this. He said, 167 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: you know, when a police officer pulls you over, what 168 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? When we were kids, I'm not 169 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: gonna do anohing. I'm gonna say why'd you pull me over? 170 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: And he said, well, you could say that, but what 171 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: I would suggest is you keep your hands on the 172 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: steering wheel and you roll down the window. Well, why 173 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: he can't make me roll down the window? Absolutely right, 174 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: But keep in mind that gentleman has a firearm. You 175 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: probably don't now he's upset with a firearm. I would 176 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: suggest you roll down the window because if you don't 177 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: roll it down, he's gonna break it. So we went 178 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: point by point by point by point how to survive. 179 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: You can fight in court. Now, you could fight at 180 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: the roadside, but you have a better chance of survival 181 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: to fight in court. So those are the kinds of 182 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: things that I experienced as a young person, and I 183 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: think a lot of that goes into that character. I'm 184 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: not that character, but I understand that character. You know 185 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. 186 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: Why don't just why in your opinion, why don't you 187 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: think we use our gifts more too? 188 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to say takeover. I don't think takeover 189 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: is the right word. 190 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: But I keep thinking about that sister who once said 191 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: white people should be lucky. Black people only want equality 192 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: and not well, I. 193 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: Was just about to say that. I don't know. I mean, 194 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: I can't speak for everyone, but I think it's funny 195 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: what justice says at the end is what most human 196 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: beings want. I just want my space. I want to 197 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: be able to live and prosper in peace. I don't 198 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: want to have to fight for my survival. Imagine you 199 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: could be killed, maimed, robbed, your loved ones in peril 200 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: every day, and for some black people it is that way. 201 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: We want. What everyone wants. What we want is not extraordinary, 202 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: not any different. We want the same thing. So all 203 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: of the stuff that's put on race, culture, and ethnicity, 204 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: for the most part, is false because we're human beings 205 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: just like everybody else. So the stuff we're fighting for 206 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:32,239 Speaker 1: is freedom to be free. Maybe we should be more revengeful. 207 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:37,119 Speaker 1: I don't know some folks are in Hollywood. 208 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: Is there such thing as having to make white people 209 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: comfortable in order to work? 210 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: No? But I mean, you know what I think back, 211 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: You know, I audition for some of the magical negro roles. 212 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: I was just too crazy to get them. The Davis 213 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: reading for Rassus, I'll drive you. I was always to 214 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: nuddy to my to my benefit, you know. But h yeah, man, 215 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: we all dorew I mean, not everybody, but those because 216 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, in the eighties there was Eddie Murphy was 217 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: before Spike Lee and these other voices. He was the 218 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: black comic lead, you know, who took over for Richard Pryor. 219 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: But now we have all these black creators, black female creators, 220 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: say Ava du Vernay, who's a revolutionary, you know, So 221 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: we have more voices. That makes it healthier. The one 222 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: question I hate is you know, Charlemagne, what do all 223 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: black people think? Charlemagne, Charlemagne, what do all black people want? Charlemagne, Charlemagne? 224 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: Who are all black people going to vote for? I 225 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: don't know, you know what I mean? I encourage everyone 226 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: to vote. I'm not sitting here trying to tell you 227 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: who are what to vote for. But we have a 228 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: healthier democracy when more people participate. So that's where I'm met. Now. 229 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: Speaking of voices, you are the voice of the Oscar. 230 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it was so much fun. Man. I'm 231 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: old friends with Jimmy Kimmel, and first of all, I 232 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: defy you to tell me who was the voice last year. 233 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: So you have been offered a job like it was 234 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: really great, but you don't even know what the job is. 235 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: So my first question was, well, how many tickets do 236 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: I get? I was thinking about the party. You know, 237 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: I have a sixteen year old daughter and when she 238 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: was a little girl, she said, Daddy, take me to 239 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: the Oscars. And if you have little kids, they think 240 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: you could do everything. I was like, okay, I mean, 241 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: but you got to get a movie, and you got 242 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: to finance the movie, and you got to cast me, 243 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: Daddy in the lead in the movie, and then you 244 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: gotta hope Daddy gets nominated for an Oscar. Then we 245 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: all gonna go to the Oscars. And she was like, 246 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: you're so silly. So it was great to take her 247 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: to the Oscars and we had a great evening and 248 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: it turned out to be a ball man. I mean, 249 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: my job was not to screw up anybody's name and 250 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: don't mess up the name of the movie. But I 251 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: didn't really. I wasn't on under pressure. It was, you know, 252 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm cool. It was really really fun. Though. 253 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 2: What do you think about people supporting this movie like 254 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: the American Society and Magical Negroes and you hear that 255 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: automatically all black people feel like they should go out 256 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: and support this film. What do you feel like if 257 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: they don't listen. 258 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: I would not be here if I didn't believe in 259 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: the movie. I would say, go watch it. If you 260 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: don't want to watch it, that's fine. I ain't gonna 261 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: come to your house and you know, kill you. We 262 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: all have a choice. It should be an evening of entertainment, 263 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: and a great viewing experience is one that elongates a 264 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: conversation because you know, good and well, if you see 265 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: a great show or if you see a great movie, 266 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do. You're gonna text your friends, 267 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: You're gonna tell your loved ones. Man, you gotta come 268 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: see this. So if we're successful, that's what should happen. 269 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: And again, I you know, I think the movie is 270 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: really funny. It's a new voice, a new black voice 271 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: that I really love to support. And hopefully he will 272 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: hire me again, you know, But that's why I'm here. 273 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: I feel like it's set up for a sequel. Yeah, 274 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, I hope so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 275 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: it was fun man. And you know, only this young 276 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: the love interest. This is her first job. I think 277 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: really like dang girl. She came out blazing. Man, I 278 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: think she's really good. I'm just glad you're not white. 279 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: I don't want to get a movie away, but I 280 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: was perturbed at the end. 281 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, if you really you know, but if you 282 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: really listen, that is really kind of where they connect 283 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: in that basis. And also they don't really we do 284 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: touch on justices. He's a biracial kid, because I think 285 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: at one point he tells me you know this and that, 286 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: But I'm just like, you black enough to be a 287 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: magical Negro come join our club. You know, it's Matt. 288 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: I Also it made me think like the magical Negro trope. 289 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: And I know Spike Lee made it up, but isn't 290 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: that's something that like white people think in a way, 291 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: It's like like Barack Obama is a magical need. 292 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: But they they created it. We didn't create it. We 293 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: didn't create that. No white people did. And traditionally to 294 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: have that character with that is not a whole human 295 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: that is like a spirit, a cipher. I mean, this 296 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: is like an angelic figure. You know, That's not what 297 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: we wanted. What we wanted is to be included as 298 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: whole people, whole human beings. But ultimately, you can't depend 299 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: on someone else to tell your story. You have to 300 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: tell it yourself. Now, the way it used to be, 301 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: we weren't allowed to tell it ourselves, and I still 302 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: got up until a few years ago. David, we like 303 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: your idea, but it's not us. It's the international mark. 304 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: You know, Black movies are very hard to sell, this 305 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: and that, so there's still all of that out there. 306 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: But in fact, mixed race casts of big movies are 307 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: the biggest sellers in the world market. The fast and 308 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: furious franchise Say What you Want has the most diverse 309 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: cast probably of any franchise, and it is the biggest 310 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: selling and one of the reasons is that. Okay, so 311 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: for a long time we were sold a story that 312 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: was not true. And we're changing. I say, we the industry, 313 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: they whatever you want to call it, not enough, but 314 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: we're changing. 315 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: You know, I think Hollywood lies. And the reason I 316 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: say Hollywood lies, they do. They'll say, oh, you know, 317 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 2: it's it's about the money. But I know, I think 318 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: your bias is trump the money a lot of times. 319 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: Well also power. You know. I remember remember when Barack 320 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: Obama was first elected and I was watching I think 321 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: it was in an MSNBC, and the reporters were just 322 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: giddy because it's a fact that the electorate is changing 323 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: and becoming blacker and browner every day, and yay, we're 324 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: going to be in power. And I sat at home going, 325 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: you don't think white people can hear you. You don't 326 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: think they're listening, because to expect someone to relinquish power 327 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: gracefully is a fantasy. To expect the old power structure 328 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: to say, well, it's our turn and give us the keys. Okay, 329 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't go like that, And I think that really 330 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: is at the root of what we're seeing now because 331 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: if the electorate is changing now all of a sudden, 332 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: you hear the maga crowd going, well, maybe a dictator 333 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: is not that bad because the numbers are not working 334 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: in there, So you know that's what it is. I 335 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: knew this was coming because you know, it's just it 336 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: through history and never gone like that. 337 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 4: Being an o G in comedy and I'm a comedian myself, 338 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 4: so I would like to know this. What are your 339 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: throws on all like the beef with the comics and 340 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 4: everything that's going on right now. 341 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: First of all, what I was going to say when 342 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: I walked in here, as I said, you need some 343 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: brown lick up in here? Common over there? No, no, 344 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: you need it right here now. It's common sense. Watch club. 345 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: I love it's the ratio of SIPs, ma'am. He takes 346 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: one sip while the guest is taking five or six. 347 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: I saw Mounique about it. After hour in she was 348 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: licking up. She would lubricated. I don't think Sharon drinking 349 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: it all. No, man, watch it again, he's real slick, 350 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: he goes. I think that's Charlie, Man, who you want 351 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: to kill every I won't kill everybody, you know? He said, here, 352 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: have some more. He was like, charl man, you want 353 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: to slap everybody? You know? Man, you didn't get me 354 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: up in there. My advice is bring your own cop. 355 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: Bring your own cop. Man. Stop drinking. What is in 356 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: that bottle? Damn y'all man, that's not really my thing. Man, 357 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: I don't do all that. And at this point, if 358 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: somebody goes on Club shad Shape, they're loaded. I mean 359 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: they packed. You're going there for a purpose. You're not 360 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: going there to talk about your big new novel you wrote. 361 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: You're trying to settle some scores. It's crazy, man, it 362 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: is crazy. I'm just a spectator. I don't think I've 363 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: seen one interview in its entirety because they go like 364 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: two three hours. Yeah, I've seen clips. It's bizarre. I'm like, y'all, 365 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm drinking coffee, going damn, I guess they don't like 366 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: each other. Yes, yeah, man. 367 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: It does make me wonder what happens to the game, 368 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: because when I think about the nineties, you feel like, 369 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: at least from my viewpoint, it looked like everybody was 370 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: working together, right, it looked like there was you know, black. 371 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: There's always been that we're human beings. There's always been petty, jealousy, envy, 372 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: I want your spot. You mad about some stuff that 373 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: happened in club dingling back and you know, twenty years 374 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: ago and now it's just coming to the fore. It's 375 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: human nature. But it's just not my vibe. Yeah, it's 376 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: not my vibe. You know, we can talk outside. Man, 377 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: I ain't got to blow you up on the air, 378 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: but it is wild. I don't know where it's going 379 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: to lead, you know. Uh, it's funny. When Cat was 380 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: on there, everybody was, oh my gosh, this is amazing. 381 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: Now they're like, no, this is is a lot club. 382 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: Everybody's mad while like a. 383 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 4: Cat drink drinking like that he was, but Cat wasn't. 384 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: He wasn't drinking like everybody else be drink. 385 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: Usually. Cat was a man. Cat is a unique individual. 386 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 1: This brother has sprint speed, sprint speed. Yeah, and you 387 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: know when I look at him, I think about what 388 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: he did on Atlanta that was so brilliant. Emmy. I 389 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: would really love to see him in a more expanded 390 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: dramatic role. I really don't think anyone's tapped that part 391 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: of him because he was so good, so real. He 392 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: reminds me of that aspect of Richard Pryor, like when 393 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: you see Richard Pryor in a blue collar It was 394 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: one of my favorites where it was funny, but it 395 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: was also about class and the auto industry and all 396 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: this stuff. So that's what I would hope for. 397 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 2: I'm sure if I dug around, I could find some 398 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 2: like psychological studies on why comedians are able to go 399 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 2: between drama and comedy so easily, Like guess, really a 400 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: thin line between comedy. 401 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know, in times of like tartuff, back in 402 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: ancient times, comedians were the most dangerous figures because they 403 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: tell the most truth through laughter, and that's subversive. Man. 404 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you something else. Donald Trump putin 405 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: all these leaders. They don't like to be laughed at, 406 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: and that is the easiest and most potent way to 407 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: bring a tyrant down. You make fun of them, you know. 408 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: So there's always been that dichotomy. And as you know, 409 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: in school, comics are the most damaged ones. They have 410 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: been through everything, and a lot of times you deflect, 411 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: I know I did as a kid deflect many an 412 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: ass woman through laughter. So you know that's just what 413 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: that is. 414 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: You know what I want to see this last question. 415 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 4: I know, I go listen, I would like to see 416 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 4: a Living Color reboot. 417 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: And asked me last time, we can't do that. 418 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 3: Why even if you write for it, and then you 419 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 3: caiss me. 420 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: That's what I do think. I think in the next 421 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: generation has to do their version of it. You know, 422 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: you guys say that. It was like remember coming to America. 423 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: Everybody goes, oh, man, you should bring that back. Oh 424 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: they should reboot that. They rebooted, and everybody said, well, 425 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: y'all didn't do it right. 426 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 427 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's like the original movie was a comedy. 428 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: It was not a history of ancient African royalty. So 429 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: you know you wanted to bring it back and then 430 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: you want it to be what it should be today. 431 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: We just can't do it. We were buck wild and 432 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: even when we put Yeah, when we put in Living 433 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: Color on, there was no social media. You could call 434 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: the station, you could write a letter where you could facts. 435 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: You didn't have a voice that you could immediately counter 436 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: and protest what you're watching. So I remember the head Leaves, 437 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: which was the Jamaican family. We were saying so many 438 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: Jamaican curse words. Fox didn't know what we were saying. 439 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: The Jamaican viewers did by the time they wrote in 440 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: and told Fox we were on to the next thing. Yeah, 441 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: so that's how we got ahead of the sensors. But 442 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: it's more media now. 443 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess what, I guess what it is about 444 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 4: all of us younger comments. We just we look at that. 445 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: That's the stuff we look up to, and that's the 446 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: stuff that we wish we could do. That's the stuff 447 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 4: we want to see. And it's not coming to fruition 448 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 4: these days. 449 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: It's different, man, because as soon as you utter there 450 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: on it, why do you say that you're wrong, You're bad, apologize, 451 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: take it back. They could take it down. And it 452 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: was guerrilla television when we did the super Bowl halftime, 453 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: and think about it, before in Living Color did that. 454 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: The super Bowl halftime entertainment were like, you know, Christian 455 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: young people up with people, you know, square dancing. There 456 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: was no competition. And what happened was after we got 457 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: that audience, people did not turn back to the super Bowl. 458 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: That's why the next year you saw Michael Jackson, you 459 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: saw all kind of stuff because of us, and I 460 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: think more people know it now, but for a long 461 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: time it wasn't really talked about. I mean that that 462 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: shows you the power you know there you can still 463 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: get wild and plus now maybe you don't have to 464 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: be on network television. You remember when Prince he put 465 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: I think it was musicology straight out digital, and I'm like, oh, 466 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: this dude is crazy. Ain't nobody gonna download the album. 467 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: It's not gonna work. He was ahead of his time. 468 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: He's ahead of his time. So I would probably say 469 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: that if you're gonna do something really crazy, go that route, 470 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: release it yourself, do a podcast yourself. Then you're uncensored. 471 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: Your voice is pure. I don't know how many people 472 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: to watch, but and that I'm. 473 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 3: Very unsensited, and I think I'm in the wrong job, like. 474 00:26:52,520 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: You know, because waitlow down. 475 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 4: And I've already been slapped with like eight phobia stuff 476 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 4: I never even heard of. 477 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 3: They told me today, you bibliophobic. 478 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: I say, I love the Bible. 479 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: And that's how she knows she's doing it right because 480 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: to her point, I think what she's saying, what showed 481 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: like a living color, y'all represented a sense of freedom. 482 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 2: I think if you're getting if everybody coming at you 483 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: and saying you said this, and you said that, you 484 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: shouldn't have said that, you should have said that, you're 485 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 2: doing it right. 486 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. Everything is not for everybody. And if 487 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: you perform and uh tell your jokes, your humor, and 488 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: everybody happy, then that's homoginized. Uh, that's a deluded, just 489 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: bland stuff. And we don't like. I don't like that. 490 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: I don't mean a little something. Stay dangerous. You know 491 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: what I want to ask you for? 492 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: You go in the nineties too, like, because you know 493 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: there's all of these conversations about all, you shouldn't wear 494 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: the dress and you shouldn't do it y'all did men 495 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: on film men will addresses? 496 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: We just laughed. 497 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: I didn't think nothing of it back then. 498 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: When did that change? I think I understand our history. 499 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: I understand black people's history. I eat black men's history 500 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: in this country. But we weren't the only ones. Every 501 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: major comic of any race has cross dressed. I don't 502 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: do it in real life. If I did, that's another thing. 503 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: But I did it like thirty years ago. But there 504 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: is this thing of you know, black men being emasculated 505 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. I don't look at it as 506 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: that deep. It was a comic device, so I don't 507 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: really hang too much on it. But there does seem 508 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: to be this almost fetish about it about us. There's 509 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: some truth in it, but there's also an over fascination 510 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: in just that. Let me just put it like this, 511 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: there are a lot of black people and black people 512 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: in power who are being compromised and manipulated that never 513 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: put on a dress. Okay, So don't get hung up 514 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: on just that. And one more thing I wanted to say. 515 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: I know you get flack for how you speak about 516 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: the electorate and who you want to support. We need 517 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: that voice. We need that voice because at the end 518 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: of the day, I trust people are smart enough to 519 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: decide for themselves. So speak your mind, That's all I'm saying. Absolute. Yeah, man, 520 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: love seeing you. 521 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: Guys, say man, David Allen Griddy. The American Society of 522 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: Magical Negros is. 523 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: Out so now right today today, okay, So make sure 524 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: y'all go check that out. Don't make me put a 525 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: dress on again. I don't want to do it in 526 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: the morning club.