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Speaker 1: Hello everyone. Jake Delome here, former Carolina Panthers quarterback, lucky

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Speaker 1: enough to be a Hall of Honor member in Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Just play with good players, it helps you go along.

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Speaker 1: And now I'm one of the color analysts for the

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, and I just wrapped up a great interview

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Speaker 1: with Roman Harper, even though he played for the Saints,

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Speaker 1: did play in Carolina at the end though. And also

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Speaker 1: Charles Peanut Tillman of U. L. Lafayette Raging Cajun's. And

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Speaker 1: this is the NFL Players Second Acts Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm Peanut Tooman and this is the NFL Player's Second

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Speaker 2: Acts Podcast.

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Speaker 1: And with me as always, I got my great hair.

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Speaker 3: H just call me your work wife and keep it

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Speaker 3: my work. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: This is Gail. There we go. I got Gail with

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Speaker 1: me today right now. I was open last week. Is cool.

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Speaker 4: So anyways, first of all, let me let's think the

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Speaker 4: Carolina Panthers for hosting us here at the Panthers Vision

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Speaker 4: Studio right here at the Bank of America. Thank you

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Speaker 4: first and foremost. Now I'm really excited about our next guest.

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Speaker 4: I know this man. I watched him growing up. I

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Speaker 4: played against this guy. He is fiery, he is beautiful.

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Speaker 4: He is from Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, I'm excited about this.

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Speaker 2: Next guest, the Heart and Soul of a Cann played

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Speaker 2: fourteen seasons in the NFL. He's in the Panther Hall

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Speaker 2: of Honor. Now he's in the broadcasting and horses. I

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Speaker 2: do believe you, no big time horses. And there's only

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Speaker 2: eight Ring of Honor.

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Speaker 1: Guys here at the Carolina Panthers show.

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Speaker 2: So that says a rare air, that rare Man's got

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Speaker 2: some good DNA ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Jake Delone to the show. Thank you very much, the show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it. I you know, when you played with good players,

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Speaker 1: they make you look good, no doubt, and you get

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Speaker 1: tagged along sometimes. Yeah, you know, I'm not too proud

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Speaker 1: to ad minute. The best thing about those is.

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Speaker 2: He went to the University of Louisiana. Yes, you saying

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Speaker 2: what's your chest saying like you it means.

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Speaker 1: Something to you. Well it's not. It doesn't mean that much.

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Speaker 1: But for Jake, you are Lafayette.

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Speaker 4: He knows how much I love Louisiana. I have a

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Speaker 4: very big presence in Louisiana, and I love seeing this

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Speaker 4: guy and I know him being from boat Bridge down

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Speaker 4: in Kadiana.

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Speaker 3: This guy is hey, man.

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Speaker 5: He's back, He's there. There's no doubt, man, my ball.

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Speaker 5: I love it because my accent. Yeah, everybody, I listen,

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Speaker 5: I don't have I don't have one. No, I am

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Speaker 5: from bro Bridge, Louisiana. I'm actually from a little area

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Speaker 1: You don't really want to know, right outside Lafayette, right

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Speaker 1: outside bro Bridge, he said, LA Southwest. But you know

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Speaker 1: how it is. That that's how they are.

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Speaker 3: They're different from New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very different, different from bad U better I mean.

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Speaker 1: And so it's I agree with you. We we need culture.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna claim it because I wanted to school there,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we better culture.

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Speaker 1: I love it. That's why I said, my ball, I

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Speaker 4: Come on, I've hung out in LA. I've hung out

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Speaker 4: a big fan of Jake. Just seeing him grow up.

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Speaker 4: I was a big fan of his. I rooted for

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Speaker 4: you guys so much in Super Bowl in two thousand

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Speaker 1: I knew it was one was in college.

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Speaker 4: I was rooting for you guys. I really fell in

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Speaker 4: love your gunslinger mentality. Steve Smith was bawling Julius peppersah

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Speaker 4: when I don't know if anybody was rooting for you,

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Speaker 4: of tell us about that running how you guys kind

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Speaker 1: Listen. You know, I come here from the Saints. I

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Speaker 1: I set the NFL Europe twice, so I can't even

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Speaker 3: Crazy, but the NFL Europe was so good for all the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was. We got sent over there and Frankfort.

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Speaker 1: I was Amsterdam in ninety eight, didn't play because of

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Speaker 1: Because it was NonStop. It was non understanding. Yeah, because like, okay,

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Speaker 1: So and listen, I'm different. I played quarterback. I didn't bang,

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Speaker 4: So tell me this, why did you choose to sign

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Speaker 1: So because I was a decision. I was a free agent, yes,

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Speaker 1: And my agent, Rick Smith, the Priority Sports. Rick and

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Speaker 1: Dan Henning was my offensive coordinator. Dan Henning's best friend

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Speaker 1: in the world is Bill Parcells, hey, coach of Dallas.

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Speaker 1: So when I left, Dan was like, Hey, don't listen

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Speaker 1: I gotta go. And so I'm so glad Carolina. And

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Speaker 1: So he said they're not ready. He said, I'm telling

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Speaker 1: me when I tell you they have built something there.

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Speaker 1: So and I said, Sean was like, hey, stay overnight, Peyton,

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Speaker 1: And the only door was opened was this morning? He

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Speaker 1: look up and I kid you not. There was sticky notes,

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Speaker 1: all different sizes and it was Charlotte Charlotte, Charlotte, Charlotte, Charlotte,

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Speaker 1: put me in the call. I'm sorry a sign. I'm

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Speaker 1: a big I'm a deeply religious guy, like I just

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Speaker 1: think the Good Lord put signs. Yeah. I told my

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Speaker 1: Whenever I had my first start December twenty fourth, nineteen

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Speaker 1: go to I'll go to my grave Mike McCarthy what

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Speaker 1: quarterback tip sheet, all the tips to the course of

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Speaker 1: needed to hear that because mcarthy weren't gonna give it

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Speaker 1: We're playing Sunday night Tampa in New Orleans and they

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Speaker 1: It's like whoa. So we line up and sure enough

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Speaker 4: In, and I love like because everybody has these moments

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you talked.

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Speaker 4: About the confidence is that these things, these plays, these

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Speaker 4: Through that and then you get to where now you're

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Speaker 4: a starting quarterback for Carolina. You guys get on that

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Speaker 4: that trash talking you was doing, like on the way back, like.

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Speaker 2: You were blessing, right, you were saying a prayer form right,

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Speaker 1: What would you say? I take exactly what happened, because

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Speaker 1: Well I take off running. Well, Rodney Harrison is walking,

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Speaker 1: You know, how'd you feel like being that high up?

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Speaker 4: Because that's my fear when I didn't like it, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: it because I.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't in control.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't in control. I was in Costa Rica and

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Speaker 1: And you're probably going through the water. I'm on some.

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Speaker 2: Rocks and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Like most people

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Speaker 2: I don't know this. I paid two hundred dollars or

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I said, whoa.

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Speaker 2: full speed, just like just ears peel, pitch back, Have

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Speaker 2: you ever been on a horse like full speed?

430
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Speaker 1: Just no, I mean I had a shelling pony growing

431
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Speaker 1: up that. I thought I was going to be a jockey,

432
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Speaker 1: and I was five, I'd go, of course I was

433
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Speaker 1: gonna be. Did you even get into the business third generation?

434
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Speaker 1: Oh so yeah. My grandfather was old cattleman, old farmer,

435
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 1: was illiterate, spoke more better French than English. Yeah. I

436
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 1: had property, horses and back you know, back then everybody

437
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 1: had the horses and the crops and things like that,

438
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: and they had these bush tracks. And so my grandfather

439
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 1: he had race horses, but a lot of people did.

440
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that was common's normal. It was normal, and

441
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 1: Dad always had it. I didn't grow up hunting, fishing

442
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: and golfing, and I'm in sportsman's paradise. You lived down there.

443
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 1: I didn't grew up doing that. We grew up in

444
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Speaker 1: a barn. I went to school, played sports and the horses.

445
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: That was my deal. And football gave me the chance

446
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 1: to expand on it. And listen, I'm gonna tell you

447
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 1: for me, we do all the work. I mean, like, yeah,

448
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: we do it, but that helps spill the competitive void.

449
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody says you finish this game,

450
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 1: there's a competitive void. That's it's gone. And for me,

451
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm so blessed. I walked right into it. Because if

452
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Speaker 1: you win as an owner in the game or a

453
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: trainer twenty percent of the time in horse racing, that's

454
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Speaker 1: that's that's a success rate. Okay. Yeah. You find me

455
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: a quarterback that wins twenty percent of the games, he's cut.

456
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Speaker 1: So I mean it's it, and it's every day, and

457
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Speaker 1: it's just it's consistency, and you know, that's that's my love,

458
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: that's my passion. Show I went. I went right into that. Yeah,

459
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: And so that was my my grind, that's my every day.

460
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Speaker 1: That's what I loved to do. So owner and trainer

461
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 1: is it My brother trains and my dad trains, and

462
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Speaker 1: I'm the owner. It's under set Hut is what we

463
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: run to set Hut LLC. Yeah yeah, okay, so but

464
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Speaker 1: I'm there.

465
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Speaker 4: I mean that's you know, but you've named horses after players.

466
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, You've also.

467
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Speaker 4: I would also like to know because I think you said, uh,

468
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 4: horse racing is more nerve wracking than playing quarters.

469
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, okay, so you're on that horse scare to death

470
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Speaker 1: right absolutely? All right? So we go play a game,

471
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Speaker 1: who's in Would you say you weren't in control, was

472
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Speaker 1: not in control? You go play a game, who's in control? Control?

473
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Speaker 1: Let me do this is exactly I'm in control. So

474
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Speaker 1: we prepare a horse, we do everything ready, I mean,

475
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Speaker 1: leading up to a big race. Er. I mean, like,

476
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Speaker 1: you don't know. I don't know if he has a

477
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Speaker 1: headache that day. You don't know. I don't know if

478
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: he just doesn't feel that. I don't know. You can't

479
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Speaker 1: tell me. I mean, we think we're gonna do everything

480
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Speaker 1: in our in our power to get him him or her,

481
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Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is. But like there's something about it.

482
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: You talk. So. Jason Worth is the pro baseball player,

483
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: the long haired guy from the Philadelphia Phillies. He is

484
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Speaker 1: part owner of a horse named Dorknock who just won

485
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: the Belmont, one of the Triple Crown races, and he

486
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: just won this big race called the Haskell. Well there's

487
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: video of him and they talk about it, and he

488
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: talks about He goes, I'm way more nervous than I

489
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Speaker 1: am going to the plate in the World Series game

490
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 1: when I'm batting in Philly, but a pack because I'm

491
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: way more nervous for all horse race. I don't control it.

492
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: There's just something about it. It's the greatest thrill. And

493
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: it's like owning your own franchise. It's like watching one

494
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Speaker 1: of your children. I mean really and truly, I mean

495
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Speaker 1: I think my children. I feel a little bit more

496
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Speaker 1: about a little bit more attachment to my children with

497
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Speaker 1: those horses. I mean, like, that's what you do every day.

498
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Speaker 1: And I love football. Gave me a chance to get

499
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Speaker 1: into this, and we do it. We do a lot

500
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Speaker 1: of it our own. I mean it's we're there every day.

501
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: We haul into the track with him in the bat

502
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Speaker 1: mean it, my love? Man?

503
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Speaker 2: What are some well, first off, how many horses do

504
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 2: you own? And what are some of their names?

505
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Speaker 1: Okay, so I own right now, I guess on about

506
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: twelve to fourteen race horses. I have some mayors and babies.

507
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: They stay up in Kentucky at a buddy Mine's farm.

508
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: I kind of buy and sell up there. I race

509
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: in Louisiana. I'm on our board there four tracks. It's insane.

510
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: So I've named a bunch of I'm named. I have

511
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Speaker 1: one right now named Mangum and that's named after I

512
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: tied d Chris Manga, and in watching his early development,

513
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: you know, man, this is gonna be a solid little horse.

514
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 1: And that's what Chris was a solid football player. Well

515
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: he became a little more than solid. He was champion

516
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 1: three year old in Louisiana last year, so that was awesome.

517
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Speaker 1: I've named some. I have one that haven't run. He

518
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: hasn't run yet. She will run this fall. I named

519
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Speaker 1: her Khalil, after Ryan Khalil, and I'll tell you why

520
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: I bought her to sale. I thought she was gonna

521
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Speaker 1: cost a lot more, and I thought I stole her,

522
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Speaker 1: and I thought we stole Ryan Kalil in the second round.

523
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Speaker 1: I mean, very simple. I try to name. I named

524
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Speaker 1: one ex clown after Steve Smith because this one has

525
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: a little fire in him and he was full of muscle.

526
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Speaker 1: I was Steve Smith, you know. I mean, I just

527
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: I tried to name. I named one fifty protection. I've

528
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Speaker 1: named one two jet, I'm named one seventy two Reno.

529
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Speaker 1: I just I try to name I like that, you know,

530
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Speaker 1: And I have one right now who you had Thomas

531
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Speaker 1: Davis too? Man, Thomas Davis? What was that one? I

532
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: would I don't have to edit that, so Okay, So

533
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: I bought a horse. Is that his name is Violence? Oh? Oh?

534
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: And I bought him. He was a year one years

535
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: old black and he walked like a panther. I mean,

536
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: just and it's funny. I bought in one of my buddies,

537
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: or what You're gonna name him? I said, I gotta

538
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: think of one, he said, who walked like a panther

539
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: and just looked mean. I said, well, I said Thomas Davis.

540
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: To me, I always thought of Thomas was just that.

541
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Speaker 1: I just thought Tom was that guy. And you touch Thomas,

542
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: it hurt. He has no muscles anywhere, but you just

543
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: touch him and it hurt. And so I had to

544
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: get permission to name in that because you can't just

545
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: name so Thomas had to email me. I had to

546
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: send the Jockey club. And we thought this horse was

547
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: going to be a freak show. Like he was. He

548
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: was showing all the signs. He was awesome. And it

549
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 1: was in December at the Fairgrounds and I'm assuming you're

550
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: going to say this, he's running his first race. And

551
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: we had two races that day. One was this maiden

552
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: race first time out, and the other one was the

553
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Speaker 1: Louisiana Champions Day Classic, which is the best race in

554
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Speaker 1: Louisian for Louisiana breads. I had one in that race.

555
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: So we're running Thomas, he's running, he takes he takes

556
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: a bad step and he flips in the turn, shatters

557
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: his ankle. He has to be put down. I've never

558
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: been so like the horse that never had a pimp

559
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: on in his life. I mean, it was just one

560
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: of these freak deals. You know, it was the most

561
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: it was the worst thing in the world. So to

562
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: make sure the jockey's okay, we go oh, you know,

563
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: and he's you know, the vets are there. He has

564
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: to go to l s U do a knee cropsy.

565
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just this is the way it

566
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: is with horse racing.

567
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 5: Now.

568
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: You can't give them an advil, you know, when it

569
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: was fine, I mean, it was just it was a

570
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: freak deal. So I was the most devastated I'd ever

571
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: been in my life. And then two hours later in

572
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: the Classic, we run a horse name touch upon a

573
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: Star and he romps and he's the best horse ever had.

574
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: He's the horse of the year. So yeah, so that's

575
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: a kind of a type of story. But bro as

576
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: an attachment man you get yeah, and then like I

577
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: take it personal, like I'm not naming something just to

578
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: name it after somebody. It's a belief that I had,

579
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and we'll be right back.

580
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: Is there a way to go about like recruiting the

581
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: horses are like yes, when you when you see it,

582
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: you're just like, okay, I'll tell you this explained.

583
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: So there's a yearling sale. The yearling sales. When I

584
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: say yearling is one years old, they're starting to start now,

585
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: they had one in July, they're gonna have one next week,

586
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: and then it's it's coming up this fall that you

587
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: go by. Basically you're going to buy a junior high

588
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: athlete in essence. Yeah, so you've.

589
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 3: Got to be really good running by two and three.

590
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: You can start at two. Yes, So you have a book,

591
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: a catalog, you have family tree, lineage, and so that's

592
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: all fine and dandy. But if I would go tell you,

593
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: I want you to go look at these hundred horses,

594
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: and I want you to go pick out who you want.

595
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: And you're going to say, well, what do I look for?

596
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: Go look for an athlete. I'll tell you right now,

597
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: you go tell me what an athlete looks like what

598
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: you think has balance walk scope everything. I want to

599
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: look at his legs. I promise you could go do it.

600
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: You know what they look like. You know you could

601
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: see somebody walking on the street. You can too, you

602
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: can tell me like, uh, this guy was something this

603
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: he's kind of loose the way he walks. I mean,

604
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: you can see it. I'm telling you could go pick

605
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: out something. So it's the same thing horses. Well you

606
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: and listen. I want lineage. I want family tree, you know.

607
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: I want to look and I want to see, you know,

608
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to see Archie Manning right

609
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: here and Olivia Manning right here, and I want to

610
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: see on the page Peyton Manning. You know what I mean. Yeah, okay,

611
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: I would assume that lineage is gonna run, but sometimes

612
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. But like I'm just telling you, you

613
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: can go and you can pick out I'm telling you

614
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: can do it.

615
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 4: You know, it does matter huge in horse racing. That

616
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 4: is the that's the lineage is the big thing and

617
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 4: all that.

618
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: But you can't measure just like football, you can't measure

619
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: inside that horn, can't You don't know who's going to

620
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: find the finish line. Finish line.

621
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: I'm glad they didn't measure lineage when it came to

622
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: drafting me. But because my dad did not play no football.

623
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: My dad was in a band.

624
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: I mean, Jay, we could probably talk about horse racing.

625
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my good. He got some geek movi.

626
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: We talked about You're like, you could just tell like, no, no, no, this.

627
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: Is secretary to my favorite movie. I'm sorry, I just

628
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: had to say it. Man.

629
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: I love the details in which you you talk about

630
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 4: the horses, the way you went about your craft football,

631
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 4: the opportunities like the Mike McCarthy thing, and it's probably

632
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 4: kind of the same in type of details you have

633
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 4: to do now and also what you do with the

634
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: Panthers calling the games right. Tell us how that experience

635
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 4: has been now that you've been doing that a few years,

636
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 4: and how they invited you.

637
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 1: To do it. So listen, I'm a football junkie. I

638
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: love football, love everything about it. I just loved it.

639
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: So my career ends. I had some opportunities to do

640
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: some stuff, and listen, I have a the Louisiana accent,

641
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: you know, I get it. But I had some opportunities

642
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: and I wasn't I wasn't ready. I was played a

643
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: long time. I was thirty seven or thirty. I want

644
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: to I want to go home, you know, I want to.

645
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: Like I coach girls basketball for seven out of eight

646
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: years my daughter's you know, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth grade.

647
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to do those things, you know, soccer games,

648
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: things like that, and it was in the works. I

649
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: got asked to maybe do this over here a couple

650
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: of times, and I was like, okay. Then it came

651
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. Kids have gotten older, kind of knew

652
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: the direction they were going to go, and I was like, yeah,

653
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I said, but I can't do not

654
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: traveling sixteen weekends in a row. I don't want to

655
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: miss stuff, said, not a problem. Jordan Gross and I

656
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: with Tag Teamate and I fell in love with it.

657
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: I'll never forget the first game we played the Rams

658
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: and they're coming off their Super Bowl when they lost

659
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: to New England. I watched all nineteen games leading up

660
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: to the first game. I had my notes. I am

661
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: like ready and Mick Mixon was the announcer at the

662
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: time and making totally different yeah aass Mick and training camp.

663
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I want to do a preseason game.

664
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: And he said, I said, what do you mean. He said,

665
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: I do make the television, not in the radio. And

666
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, but I want. He goes, I'm

667
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: gonna be just fine, and he gave me pointers, Hey,

668
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: just talk to him, just tell a story. You're having

669
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: a conversation. He said, it's not TV so different, it's

670
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: not more details. And then you know, and our producer here,

671
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: David Langdon like just little it's hey, we score a

672
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: big touchdown, don't say anything home, let the crowd, Let

673
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: the radio hear the crowd, you know what I mean.

674
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: And it's like you start to learn and like, hey,

675
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: if at that point, if Christian has a one yard game,

676
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: you don't go in detail about it. What should we

677
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: look for? What should we go little pinners like that?

678
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: And so the first game happens, and I remember, in

679
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: the middle of the first quarter, I'm like, I can't

680
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: believe I watched all that film. I can't believe I

681
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: did that. And you just start talking and it just

682
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: felt conversational and like as a quarterback, and I think

683
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: both of you ended up as safeties. You know, were

684
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: you always a safety? But you play corner, you're on

685
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: your island, you play safety, you're seeing everything. As a quarterback,

686
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: I have to see everything. So I felt like could

687
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: feel the game and see the game, and you can

688
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: just kind of you can relate to people and talk

689
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: to them because I like listening to other people talk.

690
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 1: I love listening to other radio guys talk. And do

691
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: I like them? What don't I like about them? Are

692
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: they talking above not above my head? But like the

693
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: normal viewers are they don't want to hear that? Then

694
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: I understand it. Plenty enough friends that are not afraid

695
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: to critique me, you know what I mean, Like yeah,

696
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: ex players and they'll text, you know, like hey, good job,

697
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: you know, like and that means a lot, and I

698
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: don't need affirmation. So started doing it, fell in love

699
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: with it, kind of went on, and then Jordan moved

700
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: back home and became a head high school football coach

701
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: at Fruitland High. A little difficult for him traveling and

702
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: game planning on weekend, so Luke became involved and so

703
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: and I didn't know. I knew Luke as a player,

704
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,239
Speaker 1: but I didn't know him as a person. And I

705
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: told him, I said, Luke, listen, trust me when I

706
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: tell you, like, don't over prepare, and I know that's

707
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: not in your vocabulary. So we play in Cleveland, game one.

708
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: And so we get there and I pulled out my

709
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: index card and I have my notes, my keys of

710
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: the game, and just I'm lucky. I can recall things

711
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 1: fairly easy, so I can remember, and I had numbers

712
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: pretty good. And Luke pulled out a Manila folder. It

713
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: was a scouting report on every single player, special teams,

714
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: backup scouting report on everybody. It's okay, game ended, it's over.

715
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: He looked at me. He said, I went about fast.

716
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I said, i'd your scouting report go.

717
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: He goes, I never looked at it once. I said, no,

718
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: it's just different. You're talking, and it's good for me.

719
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: I bleed Carolina Blue, and I talked through a Panther lenz.

720
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: You know, if that's great on Panthers Radio. Hopefully I

721
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: want him to hurt with this. I want him to

722
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: feel when we get excited, you know. And I'm not

723
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: going to go or rate somebody like I've thrown a

724
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: lot of awful interceptions, you know, like but if somebody

725
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: throws a bad let's just okay. We have a bad pick.

726
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: That's a past Bryce would want to have back, or

727
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: that's something that you know what j C probably needs

728
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: to make that play a corner, you know way, that's

729
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: the way to do the thing that Juba mone have

730
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: missed that whole. Like that's instead of you know, the

731
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: sensation relation. Oh my sensations. What a terrible pass. Oh,

732
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, nont sensation anything. I don't know,

733
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: that's just well. I want to be real and honest,

734
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: but I want to be like, hey, I want you

735
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: to feel my panther pride coming through. But like, listen,

736
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: it's hard. Last year was difficult calling games, won two games,

737
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: that's hard. And the frustration. I'm bruised on this side

738
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: of my body from Luke Kid and me and now

739
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: he's bruised on that side. We get frustrated. We want

740
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: to win. We want these fans to holler, we want

741
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: you know. That's but I love it. I love it.

742
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: I just I'm sure I love doing it. I hope, so,

743
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: I hope. So. So here's a here's a question I

744
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: got asked.

745
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: I was looking this up, and I don't think you

746
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 2: knew or anyone else knew you were in all state dB.

747
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, in Louisiana. In Louisiana, ye, listen, I went to

748
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: at my high school, now is a four A high school.

749
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: Back then, we were single A. It was a small

750
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: high school. We played. We had twenty five guys on

751
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: the team, including freshmen. We played both ways. Yeah, we

752
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: lost in the state Simmis. They ended up having like

753
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: six or seven picks in the playoffs. Dud, You just

754
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: stand back. He trying to be modestly. He's like, you

755
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: just watched the quarterbacks eyes, man, you know what I mean.

756
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: It's single high school for still saying something though corner

757
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: deal safety Oh no.

758
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: No, no safety safety. But you were playing quarterback too,

759
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: thought I did? I kicked, We didn't come off the field.

760
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 4: Damas play.

761
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it is. But you know, it's funny.

762
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: So back in high school. The newspapers were big back then,

763
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: and every week it was who led the state in passing,

764
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, and whatever. And it's funny. For like three

765
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: or four years in a row, it was four quarterbacks

766
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: Josh Booty, Peyton Manning, myself, and Eric Randall. We all

767
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 1: went to one A high school, small high schools really, yeah,

768
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: Newman private school. Josh bodies that Evangels single A, I'm

769
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: Single A and Eric Randall's at Southern Lab Single A

770
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: and Baton Rouge. Eric four year starters in every record

771
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: at Southern Lap. His little brother played after him. He

772
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: was at Southern Lab. Josh Aydon did all right for himself.

773
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: But it's kind of funny, like, yeah, that was our

774
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: small school, all different areas, but we had to play.

775
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: I mean we had to play early on. I mean

776
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: that's what I loved about the small school. So we

777
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: had to play to play.

778
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 2: You know, experience a right. My last question is Mount Rushmore. Okay,

779
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: four picks all right, successful life, football, horse race and

780
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: dad broadcaster, legendary fifth grade sis, great coach in basketball.

781
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: If you had to put four people on the on

782
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore of influence just for what they do, just

783
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: for yours, you can. Okay. So my parents, that's one cool.

784
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's you know, lucky enough. I had an

785
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: easy life. And I tell you I grew up rich

786
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: and not financially rich. I grew up in a rich house.

787
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: You know, there was meals on the table. Mom and

788
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: dad both worked. I mean there were chores, I mean,

789
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: church going, found Yeah, I just built right, mom. And yeah,

790
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: my wife been dating. My wife's five foot one. We

791
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: started dating when we were the same height. We started

792
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: dating in seventh grade. I got lucky. I mean, she's

793
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: my She's my constant. I always tell people, you know,

794
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: you have to have that constant when you play. I

795
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: was lucky. I didn't have to. I didn't have drama

796
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: when I came home. You know, I didn't have any

797
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean, everything was taken care of. Man. Yeah, her man,

798
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: you know. Okay. The third one would be my brother.

799
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: My brother was five years older than me, much better

800
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: athlete than I was. Played at McNee State, played all,

801
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: started all four years, record breaker there, receiver, ran track

802
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: of college. Yeah, but I wanted to be like him.

803
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: He was the study in my high school. I was

804
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: always his little brother. I wanted to be him, you know.

805
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: And then the fourth it's gonna be two coaches. It's

806
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: gonna be my high school coach, Sonny schiponche and off

807
00:38:54,600 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: its ave coordinator Sunny sharpen Chase. Yeah, and my college

808
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, Lewis Cook. Louis Cook legendary so and I'm

809
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: gonna tell you why. Both were brilliant offensive minds coach Chaponche.

810
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: He was fabulous. I mean he just playing quarterback, feet

811
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: and everything he was. But they were both the greatest men.

812
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: Like they cared more about the team, they cared more

813
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: about making kids, and they were both devout Catholics. Like

814
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: the way they treated their wives. I mean that's you know.

815
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: I had that emulated at my house by my dad.

816
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 1: And then I had two men. I was around one

817
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: from eighth nineteenth eleven twelve and then one through college.

818
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: And those two men, like I saw it every day

819
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: and they knew they were good. They both knew they

820
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: were great coaches. They knew it, but they never showed it.

821
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: I mean they never they never came about, well I

822
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: did this. It was all about the team. That's what

823
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: it was. It was always that those two men. I know,

824
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: to me, it was just got it. I was left.

825
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: I got ingrained my whole life and I was always

826
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: just been around those but one it was just the confidence.

827
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: Like my high school coach, I kid you not. We

828
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: could have been playing the Chicago Bears and here's twenty

829
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: five of us from Turling's cat like roll up. He

830
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: would have made us believe we were going to win.

831
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: And this is how we were gonna win. I mean,

832
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: like and just yeah, so those are my four mom

833
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: and dad, yeah, wife, brother, and those two coaches. Yeah.

834
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 4: I like it well, Jake Man, like you just sharing

835
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 4: so much with us, man taking us on this ride.

836
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 4: I understand why those people meant so much to you

837
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 4: and how they impacted you because from your career all

838
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 4: of a sudden, that allows you to be able to sit.

839
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: Behind Kurt Warner and just be honest with your parents. Like, dude,

840
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: he's just really good. It's good.

841
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 4: But you were ready for your moment and you took

842
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 4: advantage every.

843
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: Single I wanted to learn. Yeah, you know, and I

844
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: go back y'all had Rodney Pete on like that was

845
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 1: one of my mentors, man. I mean like I played

846
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: with Rodney, Like I went to him our first year.

847
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: Jordon can't gain weight late in the season and my

848
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: wife is like, Rodney, what what do I need to do?

849
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: And he's like, it's called stress. He said, it's normal.

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Speaker 1: You know that, And it's just like you don't have it,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like I like being around successful people though

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Speaker 1: I'm attracted to those people. Man tageous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, you've been lucky in that in that manner,

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Speaker 4: and very successful in yourself. Man, I appreciate it. I've

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Speaker 4: got to known you even more by sitting down. And

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Speaker 4: this is what this podcast allows.

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Speaker 1: Us to do. Man is to y'all do us legends.

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Speaker 4: And like you even said, for you listening, you heard

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Speaker 4: Rodney peace and learning stuff about even other guys, the teammates,

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Speaker 4: the mental of yours that you didn't even get to

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Speaker 4: know about, And so I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: He went deep and I was like, man, I didn't

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Speaker 1: know that, and I had so much respect for Ronnie

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Speaker 1: and still do. And then Matt willag ex teammate, you know,

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Speaker 1: and then certainly Smitty you know my feeling for him.

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Speaker 1: They'll never they'll never wane, you know. So that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I think y'all do a great job. Y'all are two

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Speaker 1: classy role models. You know, even though you at Alabama,

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Speaker 1: you know that is what it is. Raging cage and

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean by he loves the flex.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad we got one in here, because you know,

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Speaker 4: it's not as many of y'all as it is of us.

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Speaker 2: We got plenty in the league. We just say had

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Speaker 2: to mow. Yet that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're gonna get Robert Hunt, the big free

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Speaker 1: agent sign even aim to come sitting here. I mean

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Speaker 1: big free agent signing.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about as far as money's and the man

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Speaker 4: can run too, he can and he can catch, he

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Speaker 4: can catch, he can run.

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Speaker 1: All right, y'all, man, I want you to get us

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Speaker 1: out of here. Man, Why get us out of here? Man?

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you wherever you listen to you, I was

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Speaker 3: not ready to get us.

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Speaker 1: Out of here.

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Speaker 4: All right, Heart Radio, Apple Podcasts, and definitely check us

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Speaker 4: out on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: We got a new YouTube channel.

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Speaker 4: Click share live there it is share like yeah, comment

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Speaker 4: friend and telor tell a friend us out of here. Man,

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Speaker 4: Thank you man, we're out here. NFL Player's second X

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Speaker 4: podcast We Out, We Out.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna close this next time.