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Speaker 1: mix Shots. You know what this man to get here
Speaker 1: and not all of a sudden. It took a man.
Speaker 1: I see you guys, since man forever, hasn't it super Bowl?
Speaker 1: It's wait, wait before the super Bowl. I tried and
Speaker 1: I can't remember. Who got the picks right for the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. We didn't. I got the Rams, but I
Speaker 1: didn't get the matchup. I didn't get the matchup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I did. I think I had the Rams, although
Speaker 1: I was tugging, tugging on the Bengals, so I was right. Oh,
Speaker 1: I know, I remember, now, I remember now, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: picked the Rams and then you convinced me to take
Speaker 1: the Bengals. No, yeah, we picked I do right at
Speaker 1: the end of the show that because mixing Joe mixing. Okay,
Speaker 1: I said, okay, I'll take the Bengals. I was wondering
Speaker 1: what was what was mixing at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: Why they have Perryn? Yeah, y, I don't know why
Speaker 1: on third and one put him put the big guy
Speaker 1: in there. Huh that's and then also challenge well, they couldn't.
Speaker 1: Probably didn't have time to challenge the spot. It was
Speaker 1: a bad spot. I made a difference. I thought down
Speaker 1: I thought it was the best fight because on fourth down,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there, do not throw the ball, do not
Speaker 1: throw the ball, and he tried to throw the ball. Okay,
Speaker 1: So how good of a driveway was it to give
Speaker 1: the Rams the league seventy five yard drive away? Spectacular
Speaker 1: one spectacular? The flags was exactly That's why I didn't
Speaker 1: I didn't get man. But if you they only had
Speaker 1: thrown they were getting stopped and then they came to flags. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they only had called four penalties to that point, and
Speaker 1: then they called if you count the ones that got
Speaker 1: offset that didn't count in the total, there was two
Speaker 1: there and two more or four within a three play.
Speaker 1: It was like afterwards on all the studio shows, they're
Speaker 1: talking about what the great drive it was, and one
Speaker 1: of the great drives in Super Bowl history, and as
Speaker 1: I'm watching it, I'm going, okay, now they get another shot.
Speaker 1: You know, they get down inside the red at the
Speaker 1: end of Super Bows. I mean, think about it. If
Speaker 1: they don't, if they don't throw that tikie tack hold
Speaker 1: on third down, it's fourth down right right. And if
Speaker 1: they don't call the roughing penalty in the end zone,
Speaker 1: that's a hold. And all of a sudden, now it's
Speaker 1: first and goal at the fourteen, not the four And
Speaker 1: it's like, what happened? They they they they they they
Speaker 1: they swallowed their whistle, their flags or whatever the whole
Speaker 1: game and then all of a sudden boom. Let's look
Speaker 1: at the NBA totally different. You have to almost the
Speaker 1: other way around, right to get a call at the
Speaker 1: end of the game, even shooting. I watch the game
Speaker 1: last night, Curry fouled the guy while he was shooting.
Speaker 1: The three of the three ended up winning the game,
Speaker 1: But that was an a one as well. They didn't
Speaker 1: even call it. If he were to miss it, that
Speaker 1: would not have been a call. NBA will swallow their
Speaker 1: whistles and they all especially the last minute of a ball,
Speaker 1: and if they wanted to be Tickie Tack. On the
Speaker 1: one play during the drive, there was a false start
Speaker 1: right everybody moved but the center and they didn't call anything,
Speaker 1: but then they call you know, I get it. The
Speaker 1: hold the guy's hands were on. He did not imp
Speaker 1: that difference right then. His hands were there, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't like you can put the receiver has an opportunity
Speaker 1: to put his hands on you as he's approaching you.
Speaker 1: He doesn't necessarily push off, but he's going to offer
Speaker 1: resistance to get away from you. So that could always
Speaker 1: be construed as a push off of making contact. So
Speaker 1: you have the ability on the right as a cornerback,
Speaker 1: end wide receiver to make contact with the opposition. When
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor had the courage to go back and watch that,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure when he saw those plays, I bet
Speaker 1: he came out of his skin because you can't see,
Speaker 1: you know, from the board, your sideline as it as
Speaker 1: it was happening. I felt there are so many great
Speaker 1: finishes in this postseason, okay, and with all the walk
Speaker 1: off field goals and all that, it felt like to
Speaker 1: me they were trying to create a scenario where we'll
Speaker 1: have a walk off field goal in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and the only way that would happen would be the
Speaker 1: Rams take the lead and okay, and then Cincinnetti gets
Speaker 1: gets an opportunity or whatever. Uh, Aaron Donald was like
Speaker 1: even order to get it to overtime. Whatever. And then
Speaker 1: and then Aaron Donald took matters into his own hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, there's no there's no walk off, he said.
Speaker 1: He sprinted out. He was the first one on the
Speaker 1: field when it was time. I could just see him,
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons sprint going out there, like, come on, guys,
Speaker 1: like a Bill Bates used to make us man in
Speaker 1: practice every time he'd be the only white guy in
Speaker 1: our group, went from group to group like, hey man, chill, No,
Speaker 1: we're not chilling today. Aaron Donald was not chilling today.
Speaker 1: And you know what, when I U when I got
Speaker 1: a chance to go back and and look at those
Speaker 1: two plays that Donald made. It's like the third down
Speaker 1: play when he stopped p Ryan. He just destroyed Bro,
Speaker 1: He just destroyed I couldn't I stopped talking about that.
Speaker 1: That that guard and that guy's terrible, like the whole
Speaker 1: playoffs and seventy seven having identity. Don't say that he's
Speaker 1: a local kid. He's terrible. From Garland. I don't know
Speaker 1: how he you know why you're saying that. You know
Speaker 1: why I make you saying that? Why you know where
Speaker 1: identity went to college Kansas. Well that's I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: That That tells it all right there, right, I think
Speaker 1: that kid might be related to me. How do you
Speaker 1: get trying He's from Garland. The Walls families all from
Speaker 1: Garland years right, How do you get anything that bad?
Speaker 1: It's like he he not only beat him, he threw
Speaker 1: him into p Ryan and then grabbed him from behind. Right.
Speaker 1: I've never seen anyone stop someone from behind who call
Speaker 1: him back without help from someone in front of the
Speaker 1: running back. It's like he it was like he was
Speaker 1: a hook when you get a bad ye off stage right,
Speaker 1: just the way he just kind of hooked him back,
Speaker 1: but he grabbed him and pulled him back. That was
Speaker 1: one of the more you like. It was like the
Speaker 1: Gong show. Well then went off and he's not going
Speaker 1: one step further. And then on on fourth down. I
Speaker 1: finally went back and looked at it. They moved Donald
Speaker 1: to the other side. Right, So the the tackle over there,
Speaker 1: I think it's Quentin Spain was the left left guard. Yes, right,
Speaker 1: So he's going to have help from the center. So
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is set up to the outside
Speaker 1: right to make sure you push him in. He gets
Speaker 1: beat to the outside and here's the center. He's all
Speaker 1: right there, ready to help, right, and there ain't nobody
Speaker 1: coming right. Eddie gets beat how And then what I
Speaker 1: didn't realize is that they were gonna try to run
Speaker 1: a slant right to the wide receiver um T Higgins,
Speaker 1: and the safety came off the tight end Uzama and
Speaker 1: to double so they couldn't throw the slant. Usama was
Speaker 1: wide open. He couldn't get it there right. But then
Speaker 1: the other thing I didn't realize that if he had
Speaker 1: time on the right side, Ramsey fell down at the
Speaker 1: thirty yard line. It's a walk in touchdown, right, And
Speaker 1: he didn't have time because there's Donald swinging him around.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to see, you know, I saw it
Speaker 1: live where the you know, the Desperation Eve landed in
Speaker 1: the vicinity of p Ryan. I wanted to see how
Speaker 1: close it was and if if you dive for it,
Speaker 1: is there a possibility of catching it. But they never
Speaker 1: showed a replay of the end of the play. They
Speaker 1: all just showed they focused so much on Donald and
Speaker 1: I never got to see the replay of where did
Speaker 1: the ball wind up? How far away from p Ryan?
Speaker 1: That's what it looked like to me because I didn't
Speaker 1: realize like a Cowboys loss. Right, Yes, that's what it sounds. Yes,
Speaker 1: And I went back and played that a couple of
Speaker 1: times and I'm looked where the ball landed, and it
Speaker 1: was almost like, did he decided? I think so. I
Speaker 1: don't think he saw it, you know, because he decided
Speaker 1: that he's going down it's a sack, right, And then
Speaker 1: the ball was Yeah, if he dove for it, there's
Speaker 1: a chance chance he would have added it would have
Speaker 1: been a first down. It was far enough. You hate
Speaker 1: those kind of right where if it's mixing, then might
Speaker 1: he might be able to make that? But isn't it?
Speaker 1: But the indicative thing is somewhere along the line in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, whatever your weakness is gets exposed in the end,
Speaker 1: and their ability to protect Burrow all year, right, it
Speaker 1: came back seven sacks in the game, right tackles for losses. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then the last two plays destroyed because their offensive
Speaker 1: line wasn't good enough and that was the bottom line,
Speaker 1: and Aaron Donald Boy's should I got my vote and
Speaker 1: I didn't have? You don't know. Did you have him
Speaker 1: as the MVP for the last play? No, I think
Speaker 1: for the last two plays he gets it. But the
Speaker 1: voting happens before the last Yes, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: which is ridiculous, stupid. That is so great. It's going
Speaker 1: back in the day now. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: with COVID what the I was all done by zoom
Speaker 1: all the postgame interviews right, there was no face to
Speaker 1: face contact between the meeting. So all right, let's make
Speaker 1: a COVID provision here we wait on our MVP voting
Speaker 1: to the end of the game, because prior you would
Speaker 1: they would have to cast their ballots basically by the
Speaker 1: two minute warning, so that the scribes can get down
Speaker 1: to the locker room and get in position to get
Speaker 1: postgame interviews. Are you ascribe? And then that sounds like
Speaker 1: a and then the only and then when the when
Speaker 1: the pool report, when the pullporter, the pool reporter went
Speaker 1: down for the interview with the head official Tilbert, the
Speaker 1: only thing he asked him was about the face mask
Speaker 1: that didn't get called on. He was beating anyway, he
Speaker 1: was beating anyway, exactly. Sorry, I mean, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm dB love Rams and he's a baller.
Speaker 1: He was beaten almost all game long. It was not
Speaker 1: it was talking about getting exposed. You know, he's a
Speaker 1: great defensive back, but sometimes his impact is better at
Speaker 1: safety because he's able to really make things happen a
Speaker 1: lot easier. He's able to recognize thing. But when it
Speaker 1: comes to covering one on one. First of all, the
Speaker 1: first player to chase the bomb to Chase were almost scored.
Speaker 1: You know, of course, hey man, I've got beating, No
Speaker 1: big deal. One thing, you know, when you're at the
Speaker 1: mid when you're close to midfield and they line up
Speaker 1: a speech of on your end, it's a play action
Speaker 1: and we're going deep, we're going for the end zone.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady does it all the time. We talked about
Speaker 1: he's not exactly, he's not. We all know this, and
Speaker 1: Rams he knows this. So I was very surprised that
Speaker 1: he was lulled to sleep. Not even a good move
Speaker 1: by Chase. He really just ran around him. And you know, uh,
Speaker 1: Ramsey doesn't have the back pedal. If he had the
Speaker 1: back pedal, then he would have stayed in position. But
Speaker 1: for some reason he stopped moving his feet. But mentally,
Speaker 1: you have to know I'm gonna be You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to beat me deep on this one. Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to be be sure on thisten because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be as deep as I can be. Fifty
Speaker 1: yard line. They're going to the end zone. If I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken. It was first a second down, and so
Speaker 1: all of that just screams look for the end zone,
Speaker 1: look for the deep pass. And for Somebodason, mentally, he
Speaker 1: just didn't have it together. And like I said, he
Speaker 1: was beaten not just on that play, but he was
Speaker 1: beaten on the play where he grabbed his face. Math
Speaker 1: didn't really matter. And he's a good actor too, by
Speaker 1: the way, because he knew that hand hit his face
Speaker 1: and didn't you know, hit his face and he was
Speaker 1: I think we've seen him. Did he do that against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? Yeah, Michael Gallant, that's right, he went deep
Speaker 1: on him. He was even by Michael Gallop, right, he
Speaker 1: created space, right, push off, didn't extend, but he just
Speaker 1: you know, and then he didn't all do yeah, and
Speaker 1: he did. He did the face and they went for it. Yes,
Speaker 1: in AT and T stadiums. Right, that's absolutely I remember
Speaker 1: that they gave it to him. I love Everson getting
Speaker 1: on the cornerback and Mickey was about to get on
Speaker 1: the pool reporter, weren't you. Oh no, that's the only
Speaker 1: that's the only answer we got was on that play, right,
Speaker 1: There was nothing else asked. Yeah, that's what I love that. See,
Speaker 1: you're jumping on Jalt. Vicky's jumping on the poll reporter
Speaker 1: because he didn't asking the good questions. He didn't ask
Speaker 1: any questionss I never stopped Mickey. Mickey wanted to be
Speaker 1: that pool reporter, right, Huh, you've been in that position before, right,
Speaker 1: quest And I did the same thing he did. I
Speaker 1: threw up my hands and say, I give here the question.
Speaker 1: We ain't getting anything here, Matthew Staff. Well, hall of fair.
Speaker 1: I'll give him. I'll give him credit for you know,
Speaker 1: being able to you know, what do you do about
Speaker 1: something like I mean, guys with Detroit for twelve years.
Speaker 1: I mean when you're saddled with a franchise like that
Speaker 1: for twelve years, and you know he was number one
Speaker 1: picking the draft. He's so I saw, No, I'm saying
Speaker 1: that too long. He has some chances to do batter,
Speaker 1: you know, I get out like he had a bunch
Speaker 1: of bombs on this team either and some of the
Speaker 1: players with didn't he didn't. It was pretty good. I
Speaker 1: mean we bombs, guys. Was he the only good player
Speaker 1: on the team. I mean, man, I'm sure he's former
Speaker 1: team basic not not liking this at all, you know,
Speaker 1: seeing that I saw before the game. They had it
Speaker 1: was NFL dot com. They had a list of the
Speaker 1: sixty ranking the sixty five super Bowl winning quarterbacks, right,
Speaker 1: and they had their records in the Super Bowl, but
Speaker 1: it was for a career sixty five winning quarterbacks, that's
Speaker 1: what they said. Six we've only had fifty well how
Speaker 1: many what we've had fifty six super Bowls? But they
Speaker 1: had sixty five listing maybe just the quarterbacks played in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Well, I mean the quarterbacks they played
Speaker 1: in multiple anyway, whatever, I mean, seven of them are,
Speaker 1: seven of them are Brady, right, just seven quarterbacks lost
Speaker 1: that might not have been in the anyway. Aikman was fifteenth,
Speaker 1: all right, among Super Bowl quarterbacks. Yeah, and this is
Speaker 1: on their careers or how they played in the past season.
Speaker 1: Originally I thought it was how they just played in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Just in the Super Bowl. They had
Speaker 1: their records for the Super Bowls, right, Aikman had the
Speaker 1: He tied for the third most wins. He was number fifteen.
Speaker 1: There was two guys. There was two guys with four
Speaker 1: Montana and Bradshaw and then Brady was first. So how
Speaker 1: did he end up number fifteen? Well? I did, And
Speaker 1: then it said it it was a career. You didn't
Speaker 1: let me finish. I said, it was the career. It
Speaker 1: was the career, okay, But they chose those guys and
Speaker 1: he was fifteenth. Right, he was behind fran Tarkenton. What
Speaker 1: he was behind Ben Athlisberger. Um, I just saw all
Speaker 1: this stuff, and I said fifteenth in the comment was
Speaker 1: his peak was too short and they only gave him
Speaker 1: up to ninety six. They didn't include ninety eight ninety
Speaker 1: nine when they went to the playoffs. Right, Steve Young
Speaker 1: was ahead of them. Steve Young didn't start as many
Speaker 1: years as Troy did, and he only won one Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And I was like, what does this guy doing fifteenth?
Speaker 1: Who wrote this? Uh? Greg Rosenthal with two gees and
Speaker 1: Greg m so anyway, interesting, I thought, So you need
Speaker 1: to come up with your own Yeah, I should uh huh,
Speaker 1: and then where we just have a convoluted system and
Speaker 1: that the eightment efficiency ratings, and he'll be number one.
Speaker 1: And they were, they were, they were promoting the Mannings
Speaker 1: because they each won two Super Bowls. And I said, well,
Speaker 1: Troy one three, all right, where was Eli? Right? I
Speaker 1: was just gonna ask that he was he was ahead
Speaker 1: of Troy. Oh, there's no way. Yeah, he and Peyton both.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I had to find the parameters in this thing.
Speaker 1: It's just it doesn't make any sense. And no, it
Speaker 1: doesn't look fact, I've got to look up. I've got
Speaker 1: my list, I left it upstairs. Bells gonna take off,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna look it up, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have more information on this coming up shortly here and Mickey,
Speaker 1: I see low and behold, your legal pad is full
Speaker 1: of notes once again. This way man Everson getting on
Speaker 1: you not being prepared for this show. Look, yeah, I
Speaker 1: wasn't planning on talking about it until he's kind it
Speaker 1: came all right, He's about to prove all of us wrong,
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Speaker 1: That's a new read, right, No, I did it last
Speaker 1: You did it last week. Okay, you weren't paying close
Speaker 1: enough attention because you were remotely joining us last week.
Speaker 1: How was How was your week? Your super Bowler experience? Good?
Speaker 1: It was good. I got the hicck out of there
Speaker 1: on Saturday, so that was in you. I saw Sunday
Speaker 1: night on the street. That was No. I was in
Speaker 1: another la. I was in Louisiana. Oh yeah, me and
Speaker 1: the wife when in Louisiana went to a little casino,
Speaker 1: had a little fun and had a little appearance. I
Speaker 1: was with Dalton Hilliard, yeah, Willie Rolf remember that, and
Speaker 1: doctor Doom from Jackson State, Robert Brazil. We were all there, uh,
Speaker 1: just kind of signing off that we actually doing the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl watching party type thing. And it's so funny.
Speaker 1: I was trying to, you know, watch the play and
Speaker 1: down the play. No, we were actually in a kinder
Speaker 1: which is down by Lake Charles. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: That was a heck of a job. By the way,
Speaker 1: is you could just feel yourself going down to the
Speaker 1: bottom I mean, man, you feel it, but now it
Speaker 1: was it was a it was a good game, and
Speaker 1: at the end there are certain people in there that
Speaker 1: really care about what happens in the game. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: when you're talking about gamblers, yeah, that's all they were.
Speaker 1: They would give a Craples winning. So that now they
Speaker 1: want the all the graphs. So now they're in line.
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to watch the game because it's like
Speaker 1: two minutes left. Well I didn't make you know, you
Speaker 1: you didn't get your numbers, so you're like, hey, I
Speaker 1: want all the graph right now, book, can you wait
Speaker 1: because the game's on. So yeah, that was kind of
Speaker 1: a dilemma. But the long, long time ago, I was
Speaker 1: in Lake Tahoe skiing and I had well I found out,
Speaker 1: but I had sprained my ACL, I mean my MCL.
Speaker 1: So I took the day off, I know. And so
Speaker 1: I took the day off, and it was during the
Speaker 1: NCAA basketball tournament, right, so I went into the casino
Speaker 1: to watch all the games. Right, I'd never seen more
Speaker 1: miserable people in my entire life watching a basketball tournament
Speaker 1: because all they were worried about was the spread, right,
Speaker 1: didn't matter who won, and so every possession they were
Speaker 1: yelling and screaming at whatever happened. And then when it
Speaker 1: got down to the close, the team that they picked
Speaker 1: to win but wasn't covering the spread, now they're churing
Speaker 1: for the other team to get it in overtime so
Speaker 1: they can to cover the spread. It was unbelievable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's an amazing experience. And you get your Grambling sweatshirt
Speaker 1: on so um on board with the new offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that one. I'm gonna be hitted
Speaker 1: down the game, I saw, I thought. So they hired
Speaker 1: Briles Briles, Sriles, right, yea for the head coach they had.
Speaker 1: He called himself off. Now Arthur are going down there incognito.
Speaker 1: Now tell him again, who's the head coach? Jason, Hugh Jackson.
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson. Yeah, yeah, and yeah that's an all star. No,
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson's a great higher. I told him. I texted
Speaker 1: him and let him know I'd be down there for
Speaker 1: the spring game, which is gonna be in April, and
Speaker 1: me and the guys, you know, we're already excited to bat.
Speaker 1: A few of the guys gonna come down there and
Speaker 1: take a look at it because it's so different. Now
Speaker 1: you got a new coach and he's gonna be a
Speaker 1: new environment. So of course you want to be kind
Speaker 1: of on the ground floor of that. But I didn't
Speaker 1: know Author would be coming with him. Arthur. That's a
Speaker 1: tough one man. That's a tough one man. Authors. Author
Speaker 1: brings some baggage with him. They don't need that baggage
Speaker 1: at Grambling. I'm saying, come on, man, we got enough
Speaker 1: stuff we have to overcome. We I'm still I want
Speaker 1: that TV contract. Then we need a TV contract for
Speaker 1: ye and they they're doing something else with the NFTs,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. So yeah, they've got a couple
Speaker 1: of nice little uh income streams. Good. That's really gonna
Speaker 1: help the help the the program. All right, watch on
Speaker 1: your legal pad this week, Mickey, you got these were
Speaker 1: all the plays I had from the super Bowl. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you want to keep looking at the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. You know the touchdown to Odell Beckham before
Speaker 1: he got hurt somehow they leave him in single coverage
Speaker 1: out of the slot with with Hilton right, they were
Speaker 1: playing single safety high so it was a seventeen yard
Speaker 1: touchdown pass. You know where the safety was in single
Speaker 1: high standing on the goal line. He was seventeen yards
Speaker 1: off the light of scrimmage, and he stood there until
Speaker 1: the play was almost over. Did no help to the
Speaker 1: poor guy coming out of it? Yeah, but the poor
Speaker 1: guy's gotta be outside right, and he hasn't because the
Speaker 1: inside the Yeah, the safety has the safety. Actually, that's
Speaker 1: a nice alignment when you look at it. First of all,
Speaker 1: they went running the ball very well, so why not
Speaker 1: just standing back there and be ready to just jump
Speaker 1: anything that comes in between the hashes? So the but
Speaker 1: the slot defender, he lined up inside the hash and
Speaker 1: Beckham beat him outside. It pretty simple. That was happy
Speaker 1: for Beckham. But that guy, that's one of the easiest testdowns.
Speaker 1: And my other two things. My other two things were
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's first and ten at the eleven field goal. They
Speaker 1: were first and ten at the eighteen field goal. That's
Speaker 1: eight points they left on the field. And they've been
Speaker 1: doing that all k field goal They've been doing one right.
Speaker 1: Nick Pherson was kind of their MVP during the playoffs,
Speaker 1: so comes back. That was That was the other couple
Speaker 1: of things that I had. Oh and and and the
Speaker 1: uh the guy that was inactive Hargrove comes off the
Speaker 1: bench to celebrate. Exception. Right, they're gonna get the ball
Speaker 1: to twenty. Now they get it at the ten, and
Speaker 1: it was it was pretty that he's waving his towel.
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you doing? I said, well, he
Speaker 1: was inactive. He just wanted to get on the field.
Speaker 1: And so you talk about the coach watching film and
Speaker 1: then how he reacted these thing. He's gonna cut that guy. Okay.
Speaker 1: I mean if he wasn't good enough to play, I
Speaker 1: don't know if he was. It's not hard Grove. It's
Speaker 1: Hard Graves that is. Okay, they make him in active.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm just thinking in that coaching room. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, we don't have to use our Graves this week.
Speaker 1: So okay, there's another coach across the room. He said,
Speaker 1: oh good, he can't hurt us this week. I could
Speaker 1: save my job. Good. Good, I don't have to put
Speaker 1: him in Good he's he's not gonna screw up this week. Good.
Speaker 1: I I can get through this way. Good. Oh. There
Speaker 1: he goes, sign you have to sign the staff man
Speaker 1: who let him be on the bench. See, put him
Speaker 1: in a suite. No one got room up. And then
Speaker 1: sweet but get bad coach has more of responsibilities. Now back,
Speaker 1: that was John Blake, yes switcher. He did it in
Speaker 1: Oklahoma when they saw hide or do him here as
Speaker 1: the defensive line coach, he basically was the get back man.
Speaker 1: You gotta get back. And speaking of Odell, and it
Speaker 1: looks like he torres acl. Did they ever confirm that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't see a confirmation, but I think that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Check this out. So, uh, you know, everybody makes a
Speaker 1: big deal about them getting Odell and uh and so
Speaker 1: I looked at his uh, his salary and um, get
Speaker 1: the right page here. So he basically, um was eight
Speaker 1: hundred Oh, I know what it was. So the play
Speaker 1: his playoff money. So he had basically a seven hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars like a veteran minimum minimum plus a signing bonus, right,
Speaker 1: and so he's like one point two five. So the
Speaker 1: playoff payouts this year for the being in the games.
Speaker 1: If you're in the wild Card game, you got paid
Speaker 1: forty two thousand and five hundred Division game another forty
Speaker 1: two five the conference championship sixty five thousand, plus one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand. If you're in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: So he got another three hundred thousand dollars there. But
Speaker 1: which is what all the players got? Right for the
Speaker 1: incentive package with the Rams stuff player, I think you
Speaker 1: got not that much. You're talking about you, I mean
Speaker 1: I mean as a team, I mean per player, he
Speaker 1: probably got three thousand. I don't not forty two. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe they didn't give you chi we got zack. You
Speaker 1: just no, you just playing for the incentive if you know,
Speaker 1: Gil would put that into the everybody had that in
Speaker 1: your own Yeah, but this came from the NFL. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: what you need to check on that? I think might
Speaker 1: oh something anything? We did not. So anyway, and when
Speaker 1: he when he signed his control, so happy when they win.
Speaker 1: When he signed his contract with the Rams, so this
Speaker 1: is personal. If the Rams get a wildcard win, he
Speaker 1: gets five hundred thousand. Got that. If they got a
Speaker 1: division win seven hundred and fifty thousand, that's in addition
Speaker 1: to the five hundred right, and he gets a conference
Speaker 1: win seven hundred and fifty thousand, that's two millions. And
Speaker 1: if they win a Super Bowl one million, so three millions.
Speaker 1: So he made another three million dollars. And by the way,
Speaker 1: when everybody says, well, you know, they just basically stole him.
Speaker 1: Well that three million is going to count against their
Speaker 1: captain in twenty twenty. Wow, Yeah, just so you don't
Speaker 1: just you know. And so that's why he had that
Speaker 1: ugly cry u ugly cry face. Well, and he had
Speaker 1: re established himself exactly in this league and then he
Speaker 1: tears his a CL which unfortunately, I mean not only
Speaker 1: as a marketable player, but for a contract, a new
Speaker 1: contract for this coming off season. And then he tears
Speaker 1: his ACL, which means and it happens in February. So
Speaker 1: even on a even if it's a clean ACL where
Speaker 1: you're coming back as soon as possible, I mean even
Speaker 1: six months out, that's August before you're even so and
Speaker 1: Gallup's facing the same thing. Yeah, but his was, but
Speaker 1: they hadn't done the surgery until I think this week.
Speaker 1: Maybe they waited. It was let's all go down and
Speaker 1: now on al maybe last week it was it was
Speaker 1: first of February at least. Yeah, depending, you know, all
Speaker 1: all injuries are not the same. And so if it's
Speaker 1: a an ACL where you can come back quicker, I
Speaker 1: mean they have, We've seen it before where guys have
Speaker 1: come back within three months and yeah, so Becca's in
Speaker 1: a great shape. You know, you know how this is
Speaker 1: very fine tone, well toned. I think he'll be okay.
Speaker 1: I think you know the way they've n with medicine now,
Speaker 1: medication and prostgious. Man, these guys are coming back off
Speaker 1: of ACL seemed like this. It's almost like the pitcher's elbow, right,
Speaker 1: Tommy John. Sometimes they just go ahead and ahead, they
Speaker 1: go ahead and do it, and you'll be to strike exactly.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead. Two years later you'll be good. Ye.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing I noticed gonna you know,
Speaker 1: everybody was given the RAMS credit for basically going all in,
Speaker 1: as they say, to win the thing. For von miller
Speaker 1: Well and others. He only he only cost him from
Speaker 1: a salary standpoint seven hundred thousand dollars to play eight
Speaker 1: games because uh denver had to pay had already paid
Speaker 1: nine million of his nine point seven million dollars base salary,
Speaker 1: because he hadn't say it guaranteed. I didn't see what
Speaker 1: his if he had any and send him because they
Speaker 1: just did. They just picked up. But but see what
Speaker 1: happened with O'Dell didn't he he just got cut right,
Speaker 1: So they had to sign him as a free agent,
Speaker 1: but he had already made that guaranteed money right right exactly.
Speaker 1: And so basically what Denver did is they paid nine
Speaker 1: million dollars to get a second and a third round
Speaker 1: draft choice, because that's that's the price. That's the price
Speaker 1: that the Rams paid the second and third and Denver said, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll spend nine million dollars here to get two draft choices, right, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: You know, in four in four playoff games, he ended
Speaker 1: it up with four sacks, fourteen tackles and two six
Speaker 1: tackles for a loss. Now that they won the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: they can sit there and go, okay, it was worth it,
Speaker 1: right right. I thought they didn't get the staff for trade,
Speaker 1: you know, give up. So now they're gonna be They're
Speaker 1: gonna be other teams that follow the lead of the
Speaker 1: Rams now, but you better win whether they better have
Speaker 1: the picks too. You have to have the picks, and
Speaker 1: you have to have the team that is ready right now.
Speaker 1: And trust me, they were a little shady and shaky
Speaker 1: there for just a second, which it was about week thirteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford was having his uh Detroit dreams. I guess
Speaker 1: you might call it because he was throwing pick sixes.
Speaker 1: You know, he threw a couple of pick sixes from
Speaker 1: week thirteen, I believe a week fourteen on out. It
Speaker 1: was two pick sixes, and he had got he had
Speaker 1: a mass about six interceptions at that time. And I
Speaker 1: remember telling you guys, my son comes to me and like,
Speaker 1: what's up with Matthew Stafford, you know, And well, and
Speaker 1: they'd lost Robert Woods, so they get Backham and then
Speaker 1: they lost their tight end, bigs Higby. They were down
Speaker 1: to their third tight end by the way, and uh boy,
Speaker 1: the tighty is good because even the second string tighty
Speaker 1: was doing well and the third tighty end comes in
Speaker 1: doing well though strings, so they they ended up they
Speaker 1: have four picks in this coming draft, none in the
Speaker 1: top one, so none in the first, second or third round,
Speaker 1: right basically, yeah, all right, so let's bring it to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. All right. We talk about okay, you have
Speaker 1: to have to do what the Rams did. Okay, and
Speaker 1: I'm not talking quarterback, but other positions of need on
Speaker 1: a team. And you feel like, as I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys feel like that they've got the nucleus here, all right,
Speaker 1: It is that a road that the Cowboys should think about.
Speaker 1: Where you are giving up draft picks to get veteran
Speaker 1: players who can is this team in a position now?
Speaker 1: But are you going to get veteran players number one
Speaker 1: on the cheap right? Because one point two, five and
Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand they got those two guys. Now they
Speaker 1: paid dearly for staff. You're you're putting yourself in a
Speaker 1: position this is not a decision to be made at
Speaker 1: the outset of free agency, outside of but in a
Speaker 1: position where you are willing mid season trade deadline give
Speaker 1: up a second and a third. Now, obviously you got
Speaker 1: to start the season strong. Let's say you start the
Speaker 1: year like the Cowboys did this year six and one
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, and now you're at the trade deadline.
Speaker 1: Are you, as a philosophy, okay, would you give up
Speaker 1: a second and a third to acquire a von Miller
Speaker 1: to put you over the top? So von Miller just
Speaker 1: use him as an example. Are you bringing in von
Speaker 1: Miller for a second and a third when you already
Speaker 1: got DeMarcus Lawrence and Randy Gregory. So my question and
Speaker 1: I got that question, and it's like, Okay, what position
Speaker 1: are you picking up? Right? Because wide receiver already had
Speaker 1: your three. Now Gallup was hurt, but you knew he
Speaker 1: was coming back. So you get Beckham. Where does he
Speaker 1: fit in right in in the scheme of things, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Think about it with the Cowboy Okay, let's
Speaker 1: just think about what the Cowboys this this year. Think
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys this year if they had traded a
Speaker 1: second and a third for von Miller. Okay, okay, you
Speaker 1: got Parsons, all right, you get to that San Francisco
Speaker 1: game and all right, Parsons basically had to play linebacker. No,
Speaker 1: he needs to play right exactly. And so what if
Speaker 1: you had in a rotation you had von Miller and
Speaker 1: them in there? Yeah, and would have would have made
Speaker 1: a difference for the Cowboys. And I don't know that
Speaker 1: it would because of the opponent, which in the run
Speaker 1: game that the stressed, you know, just because of the matchup.
Speaker 1: It could have created the issue, you know, but against
Speaker 1: Let's say if they draw, they drew, what Arizona did,
Speaker 1: which was there, what the Rams did, which was Arizona
Speaker 1: in the first round, and you got pass rushers like that.
Speaker 1: I think it depends on the position. Would you pay
Speaker 1: him second and the third for an offensive lineman. And see,
Speaker 1: that's what I was going to say, because that's what easier.
Speaker 1: Is it easier at linebacker to come in with a
Speaker 1: mist making impact, making impact as opposed to an offensive
Speaker 1: lineman who's coming in, Can he make that same impact
Speaker 1: no matter? You know, left side, right side, tackle? Center?
Speaker 1: You know what is that? Is it more difficult to
Speaker 1: make an impact from an offensive lineman? Well, and it's well,
Speaker 1: it's more tangible to see. Okay, von Miller got two
Speaker 1: sacks in the Super Bowl. Yeah, he made a difference.
Speaker 1: Now you get a Pro Bowl caliber left tackle to
Speaker 1: fill in for an injured Tyring Smith, Well, they just
Speaker 1: rush on the other side, and you don't have that,
Speaker 1: even with the analytics, you don't have the same tangible
Speaker 1: numbers that. Okay, that's the difference you have to it
Speaker 1: has to be a formula to well, okay, if you
Speaker 1: have an Aaron Donald inside, yeah, that makes it a
Speaker 1: lot easier for von Miller to come in and do
Speaker 1: some work. Yeah, because now he's capitalizing off of off
Speaker 1: of Aaron Donald. So if we had an offensive lineman
Speaker 1: who we knew was solid, Let's say let's say Tyman
Speaker 1: wasn't hooked and you said, Okay, Tyman's gonna handle his
Speaker 1: business over here. We need to show up the other tackle. Now.
Speaker 1: He was coming over for the other tackle then, and
Speaker 1: it made a big difference. What do you think of
Speaker 1: a passing situation and you've got on the field rushing
Speaker 1: the passer, Michael Parsons, DeMarcus Lawrence, Randy Gregory and Von Miller.
Speaker 1: If I if I can, if I can get him
Speaker 1: to throw the foot, it's third and ten. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: third and ten, little bit, and okay, we're coming, We're
Speaker 1: giving We're rushing four because I'm moving. These are the
Speaker 1: four we're rushing. We're rushing Parsons and Lawrence from inside
Speaker 1: and Gregory and Miller on the outside, or yeah you
Speaker 1: like that or yeah either yeah, whatever, however you want
Speaker 1: to do it, and you can hold the team to
Speaker 1: twenty points instead of twenty three. So it would it
Speaker 1: would How can I get a defensive tackle to help me?
Speaker 1: With one hundred and sixty seven yards rush stands? Impact
Speaker 1: would have been from the rush standpoint, we didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: need the pressure. We needed to show something about a
Speaker 1: Shan Robinson. You like Ashan Robinson the defensive end, for yes,
Speaker 1: for the Rams a foot worth arms, he was balling.
Speaker 1: He and he's a defensive tackle. I mean the run
Speaker 1: three four. He's a people all season. He's an interior.
Speaker 1: Colins Worth kept saying in the game, oh ay, Sean
Speaker 1: Robinson in Okay, don't run the football. And he's so
Speaker 1: quick right for that size, by the way, and the
Speaker 1: other thing I've discovered about him because we went and
Speaker 1: interviewed his high school coaches and teachers and stuff. A quality,
Speaker 1: quality human being, a great high character guy. You know,
Speaker 1: he goes to Alabama and whatever. And so it gets
Speaker 1: back to my big green notebook and looking for those
Speaker 1: guys who you can trust, that are reliable, who are
Speaker 1: high character guys. How about Andrew Whitworth for that for
Speaker 1: the Rams, the Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year.
Speaker 1: That's speech, that speech that he gave last week. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have those type guys on your team as your nucleus,
Speaker 1: and you're going you have a chance to go in places.
Speaker 1: Now you'll say, well where it was Cincinnati for eleven years.
Speaker 1: They didn't go anywhere. But you know what in my
Speaker 1: in my well put that aside. Yeah, I went I
Speaker 1: went to my big Now he was with Detroit for
Speaker 1: four years and there you go anywhere. Then he gets
Speaker 1: to the Rams, just like Stafford. I went to my
Speaker 1: big green brain. Right. And when I was watching Donald,
Speaker 1: and I remembered seeing him at the Senior Bowl, right,
Speaker 1: and everybody was talking about this kid from pitt undersize
Speaker 1: too short, right, probably has short arms, And I'm watching
Speaker 1: him practice, and it was it was a weird thing
Speaker 1: because the only person who could block him sometimes was
Speaker 1: Zack Martin. And the only guy that could block him
Speaker 1: was Zack Martin, right, and and Donald. The only guy
Speaker 1: that Zack Martin couldn't block was Donald. So seeing those
Speaker 1: guys one on one in that scene unbelievable. And I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there and going, wow, this is something. And then
Speaker 1: both of them gonna end up in the Pro Football
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, right, and one of them has a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring. Yes, all right, Cowboys need to work
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Speaker 1: That's why I don't watch the quips. You just start
Speaker 1: learning stuff like wait a minute. Body, come on, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're talking Hall of Fame. Okay, we're talking Hall of Fame. Man, No,
Speaker 1: I'm bitching about Hall of Fame. We were talking about
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame in the break, So now let's talk
Speaker 1: about Hall of Fame on the podcast. Well and go ahead, Mickey,
Speaker 1: you could name the five guys there? You got them?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, have them right here? And all right? Getting in?
Speaker 1: Were la la la la la, Sam Mills? All right, No,
Speaker 1: I'm doing in an order of their year of eligibility, okay,
Speaker 1: and his last year of eligibility, Sam Mills gets in,
Speaker 1: twentieth year gets in, all right, Leroy Butler his fifteenth
Speaker 1: year of eligibility, gets in, Tony Boselli his fifteenth year
Speaker 1: of eligibility in, Bryant Young his tenth year of eligibility
Speaker 1: gets in. And by the way, those are the four
Speaker 1: who were waiting the longest out of the finalist this year?
Speaker 1: Were those four right there? Yeah? Brian Young tenth year
Speaker 1: I went to my high school, by the way, Oh,
Speaker 1: there you go. And then um, who was the fifth? Gay?
Speaker 1: I can't read my own writing, did you do? Richard Seymour.
Speaker 1: Seymour was in his fifth year of eligibility, but he
Speaker 1: would do it was the fourth time he was a finalist.
Speaker 1: So he's that's from Patriots, Yes, yes, yes. And then
Speaker 1: Cliff Branch got in as the senior uh the late
Speaker 1: he passed away, and then Dick Vermill got in as
Speaker 1: a contributor or coach whatever. They Art McNally. Oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, so you saw how they announced him, right,
Speaker 1: They had somebody from the team that's in the h
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame present Brett Farve did Leroy Butler,
Speaker 1: Steve Young did Bryant Young, Ricky Jackson did Sam Mills,
Speaker 1: uh Ty Law did Richard Seymour. And the next guy
Speaker 1: to announce was Emmett Smith. So I said, oh, DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Ware and I wrote it down on my shoe right
Speaker 1: here you could see it. Edie goes Art McNally, and
Speaker 1: I'm going Art McNally. He was the old official. Yes,
Speaker 1: I know it is, but I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 1: the connection between mcause he's the one that came up
Speaker 1: with the idea of the Emmett helmet rule. Oh I'm
Speaker 1: thinking they had gotten Emmett maybe well, no, they already
Speaker 1: knew who was in, right, But when they got Emmett
Speaker 1: up there and said, okay, he's gonna introduce DeMarcus Ware right. No,
Speaker 1: we ran out and they only got five of the
Speaker 1: modern day and then and then when they got to
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, Jacksonville doesn't have anybody in the Pro Football
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, so they got the guy that they
Speaker 1: went up against it and it ended up being Bruce Smith,
Speaker 1: so they wouldn't butted heads against each other. And even
Speaker 1: vermil was clear Warner right, So it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: they did a switching bait there now. But what they did,
Speaker 1: and you mentioned how many years these guys have been
Speaker 1: in there, like Sam Mills was that was his funniest year.
Speaker 1: If if if he doesn't get in, he's in. He's
Speaker 1: in the seniors category. Oh well, and guess yes, okay,
Speaker 1: that's a long lie. Yes, you know, good good luck
Speaker 1: to tell you that, buddy. So I was because they
Speaker 1: were they were decided. They know, they know to take
Speaker 1: care of those seniors the next Centennials celebration. They know DeMarcus,
Speaker 1: they know where it's gonna get in. Right, I'll still
Speaker 1: be here. We'll see if we're still doing shot. They'll
Speaker 1: do that. The bi centenial celebration. You'll get in Everson
Speaker 1: get mad about myself. I told a couple of weeks ago, man,
Speaker 1: and I just I didn't know, because you guys have
Speaker 1: told me he had been up so many times. So
Speaker 1: we were talking about something else, about another pearance or something,
Speaker 1: and I just kind of talked to him about it, like, Man,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I just felt so bad for him.
Speaker 1: And of course at the time I talked to him,
Speaker 1: then he had been eliminated again from from this year's
Speaker 1: of running. It's just it just makes zero sense to me.
Speaker 1: And then you start talking about by Butler. I mean
Speaker 1: not once again. These are good players, right, damn there
Speaker 1: not knocking knocking, But I mean, why why there's there?
Speaker 1: Includes why why aren't Why is this cowboy thing? It
Speaker 1: feels like there's this that they're not including a lot
Speaker 1: of our guys that really deserve to be in there.
Speaker 1: You start talking about all these other defensive linem But
Speaker 1: then of course I'm gonna go to Harvey Morton. You know,
Speaker 1: you started talking about safeties, man, Cowboys Gay had so
Speaker 1: many damn good safeties. It's ridiculous. You're talking about Woody
Speaker 1: number one. And then I mean, come on, man, it's
Speaker 1: just the fact that these things are taking so long,
Speaker 1: and once again it kind of makes me upset that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys kind of did them to themselves, especially the
Speaker 1: old regime. Well here's here's the in the Ring of Honor.
Speaker 1: The interesting thing. Here's the interesting thing when you compared
Speaker 1: Darren Woodson and Leroy Butler is because their careers happened
Speaker 1: at the same time, basically, right, you know, I think
Speaker 1: Butler was in maybe one year earlier. Yeah, he's was
Speaker 1: ninety one, uh ninety is when he came into the league,
Speaker 1: and so, uh so they mirror each other as far
Speaker 1: as their careers go. And okay, so Butler was a
Speaker 1: one time Super Bowl champion, four time First Team All
Speaker 1: Pro ninety three, ninety six, nine seven, ninety eight, and
Speaker 1: four time Pro Bowler, and he was on the All
Speaker 1: Decade Team. Okay, Woody, three time Super Bowl champion, four
Speaker 1: time first Team All Pro nine, ninety six, and ninety eight. Basically,
Speaker 1: those are your two safety side by side on the
Speaker 1: first team All Pro team. Okay, five time Pro bowler,
Speaker 1: so one more Pro Bowl. For some reason, wood He's
Speaker 1: not on the All Decade Team. Okay, and Butler was
Speaker 1: all right, And here's where it gets down to career stats. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's say interceptions. Butler had nine hundred eighty nine tackles
Speaker 1: Woody Cowboys all time leading tackler one thousand, three hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty. Okay, let's put an asterisk there because how
Speaker 1: many good players the Cowboys have had over the years
Speaker 1: on their defense and he's still the leading thirteen hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty tackles. Okay, all right, Sacks Butler had twenty
Speaker 1: and a half and eleven for Woody. Okay, that's how
Speaker 1: are you? How you using them? What he's covering the slot,
Speaker 1: covering Jerry Rice over, that's stating there, right, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: there's Butler had to cover Jerry Rice right, which is zero.
Speaker 1: And so to your point, interceptions you can't cover like Woody.
Speaker 1: Interceptions thirty eight for Butler and wood He's got twenty three.
Speaker 1: And so that is the that is the stat that
Speaker 1: is that got Butler into the Hall of Fame. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but see they keep moving the sticks. That's what makes me, Matt, Well,
Speaker 1: it's because you got this and I'm not talking about you,
Speaker 1: but that's how they explained it to us. You're moving
Speaker 1: the sticks were here. Well you didn't have it. Well
Speaker 1: you didn't win the Super Bowl. Yeah, well then you
Speaker 1: didn't do this. But okay, come on, man, stop moving it,
Speaker 1: you know, stop moving I can't I can't shoot them.
Speaker 1: That's the one. That's the one that bothered me because
Speaker 1: where it's going to get in right? And I understood
Speaker 1: what they were doing, and they were cleaning up, but
Speaker 1: there was no reason. Don't be cleaning up just because
Speaker 1: you didn't clean up, you ain't clean up. Well, cleaned
Speaker 1: up enough, here's something enough. Now the problem might have
Speaker 1: where you're twenty years they were once again, mine was
Speaker 1: a different situation, always unique. But they never even you know,
Speaker 1: they never even putting me up, catboys, never putting me
Speaker 1: up until the last year of eligibility. So mine was
Speaker 1: a true hell man, that was your last year, that
Speaker 1: was my last year. Tragedy there. So they're the one
Speaker 1: to clean that up because that's too much clean up,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's a big oil spill.
Speaker 1: So you start talking about start you start talking about Woody.
Speaker 1: What what's up with Worthy? What's wrong with Woody? So
Speaker 1: what you're gonna wait till this fifteen or his last
Speaker 1: year of eligibility and put him in That is man.
Speaker 1: This this this process is is crappy. Yeah, And to
Speaker 1: me and I know what happens. I always say the
Speaker 1: reporter should not be the ones to do this. I
Speaker 1: just have always believed that. But even if you have
Speaker 1: the players do it, then you're gonna have some issues
Speaker 1: with favoritism and depending on what school you went to
Speaker 1: and the conference that you went through and all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So I get it, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: some discrepancies. But I'd rather have the players do it
Speaker 1: regardless than have reporters doing it because they their bias
Speaker 1: comes from so many different angles, childhood, best team, the
Speaker 1: player that you like. You don't have to like a
Speaker 1: player to vote for him, and that's what they always
Speaker 1: stating that with me, Oh yeah, we like him, he
Speaker 1: was on our show. You it'd be interesting to see.
Speaker 1: So I think there's like forty eight voters. Maybe they've
Speaker 1: increased it and it's a writer's broadcasters. There's some former NFL.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's coaches on there or whatever,
Speaker 1: but it's a mixture, right. I would like to know
Speaker 1: when the voting went down, how many people voting actually
Speaker 1: saw you play. And that's my point because now it's
Speaker 1: turned over and I remember, remember your research. And I
Speaker 1: remember back in the day, the guy that was the
Speaker 1: columnists in Minneapolis, um forgot his first name, Hartman, long
Speaker 1: time columnists, right Sid Sid. He hated the Cowboys. He
Speaker 1: would not vote for anybody. And to the hail Mary
Speaker 1: and it yeah and and and it wasn't a secret, right,
Speaker 1: it was known that he would not vote. Is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It is ridiculous. I remember when I was up where
Speaker 1: we're trying to get sal. Uh. You know, people were
Speaker 1: trying to they were campaigning for me. So they talked
Speaker 1: to Sad. Thought, well, y'all say, I was not gonna
Speaker 1: vote for me because yeah, Brion Dawkins got in from Philadelphia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, Sound's not gonna say voted for Dawkins.
Speaker 1: But you know, Dawkins got the Super Bowl with Denver
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, correct, But but you know you
Speaker 1: got Sal still on the side. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with I don't even know
Speaker 1: how to hell, but I didn't know Brian Dawkins was
Speaker 1: up for the damn Hall of Baby. It's crazy. I'm out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, we got, we got three, we never got
Speaker 1: to I don't know what the hell we were getting
Speaker 1: to be of what the next And by the way,
Speaker 1: I wanted to point this out because it's gonna be
Speaker 1: my column tomorrow, but you know, everybody's talking about how
Speaker 1: the Cowboys need to save money cap cut this person,
Speaker 1: cut that person, cut that person. What they need to
Speaker 1: understand is what the Cowboys will end up doing is
Speaker 1: restructuring contracts to create salary cap And I'll just use
Speaker 1: one example before I go through everything, because they did
Speaker 1: it last year. And when they signed Dac to the
Speaker 1: however many years it was, they put two voidable years
Speaker 1: at the end with no base salary, and the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five season has already voided, and that was for
Speaker 1: them to restructure his first base salary and put five
Speaker 1: so they can spread out the restructure bonus over five years.
Speaker 1: And they built into the contract avoidable year in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six. So this year he's got a twenty million
Speaker 1: dollar base salary. They will restructure that down to probably
Speaker 1: I don't know, three or four million, at whatever the
Speaker 1: minimum is, and then they can pro rate that signing
Speaker 1: bonus as part of his that would have been his
Speaker 1: base salary over another five years, so they did it twice.
Speaker 1: They put those two voidable years in there, so they
Speaker 1: will create They will create probably with his contract somewhere
Speaker 1: around fourteen thirteen, fourteen million dollars million dollars by restructuring.
Speaker 1: They can do that with DeMarcus Lawrence again if they
Speaker 1: choose to. They can do it with um Lale Collins,
Speaker 1: who by the way, has some uh guaranteed money in
Speaker 1: his base salary coming up right at the time. I
Speaker 1: think it's at the time or a couple of days
Speaker 1: after the league year starts. And then the same thing
Speaker 1: with Amari Cooper. Everybody want to cut them so they
Speaker 1: can save. You know, they're gonna end up with six
Speaker 1: million and dead money if they cut them. But who's
Speaker 1: playing wide receiver for you? And he's the veteran wide receiver,
Speaker 1: right who's playing He's a veteran And they got to
Speaker 1: make that decision on the fifth day of the league year.
Speaker 1: So I think it comes to March twentieth somewhere around there,
Speaker 1: because I think the league year is sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty, right, So okay, on March twentieth, his base
Speaker 1: salary guarantees, so you would have to make that decision
Speaker 1: before number one, you don't know if you can resign
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. Number two, you don't know everybody that's going
Speaker 1: to be in free agency, which you would have to
Speaker 1: use the money you save to sign another wide receiver,
Speaker 1: and you certainly don't know if you can get a
Speaker 1: wide receiver high in the draft to take his place.
Speaker 1: So you got to have a leap of faith to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna save this money here, but I've got one
Speaker 1: wide receiver I can count on. That's CD Lamb. Because
Speaker 1: not only is Michael Gallup unrestricted, Cedric Wilson's undrestricted, Noah
Speaker 1: Brown's unrestricted, and Malik Turner is unrestricted. So you're four,
Speaker 1: five and sixth guy three, four, five, and six are
Speaker 1: all unrestricted. Now you're gonna have to spend something to
Speaker 1: get a wide receiver or a high draft choice. Right,
Speaker 1: So is there a way in Cooper's contract where and
Speaker 1: you maybe answer this, I wasn't listening where you can
Speaker 1: lower his You can restructure it, okay, but he's only
Speaker 1: got two years left on his contract, so whatever you restructure,
Speaker 1: there's not as much room to pro rate it right.
Speaker 1: And the other thing about restructuring, everybody goes, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: now it's going to kill you later. Well not really,
Speaker 1: because if you look get what they did with DA's
Speaker 1: last year. I think the restructure ended up being one
Speaker 1: point two five million over five years each of five years, right,
Speaker 1: But the salary CAP's going to go up immeasurably next
Speaker 1: year because the TV contract goes in, right, and then
Speaker 1: it'll continue to keep rising to absorb those restructures. Uh So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not like you're adding years to the contract. You're
Speaker 1: just adding restructure bonus to the contract. But you got
Speaker 1: to make sure you have years left and you got
Speaker 1: to make sure. If I'm doing that, then this person's
Speaker 1: going to be here playing at that level that I
Speaker 1: would spend that money to keep. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: he's not that old. I don't think he's thirty. I
Speaker 1: think he maybe he's he came into Maybe he came
Speaker 1: in like a veteran. I'm looking it up real and
Speaker 1: see when you have when you have seven seventeenth, he
Speaker 1: will turn twenty eight, So he's twenty eight season. That's
Speaker 1: a veteran wide receiver. You just can't take for granted,
Speaker 1: you know the things that he did, you know when
Speaker 1: things were going well, I don't know, you just don't.
Speaker 1: You can't discount that. And as long as you think
Speaker 1: he's healthy and you and your young wide receivers are unrestricted,
Speaker 1: so you got to be careful what you wish for,
Speaker 1: especially with him. But so if they were going to restructure,
Speaker 1: you might be able to get that cap hit down.
Speaker 1: How five millions? Yeah? So like it because if million
Speaker 1: part of the restructure is going to go into this year,
Speaker 1: right and then and then how much does that put
Speaker 1: you on the hook for next year for him? Where
Speaker 1: if you wanted to move on next year, how much
Speaker 1: of it? Well whatever the right, I mean how much? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it'd be a couple couple more million dollars if
Speaker 1: you can stop Michael Gallup from from you know, with
Speaker 1: these injuries, because he seemed to kind of get a
Speaker 1: couple of them real tough. I think he's one of
Speaker 1: those guys as you look at the season when Dak
Speaker 1: was having issues during a particular ball game to a
Speaker 1: particular moment, Gallop was always that guy that kind of
Speaker 1: bailed him out. He was that guy that was able
Speaker 1: to go deep. I member a couple of times, Dak
Speaker 1: Dropping dives in because Gallop was down that sideline. He
Speaker 1: had beaten his man. That's a consistent thing for Gallup.
Speaker 1: So put on your GM hat. Gallop's unrestricted, but he
Speaker 1: probably is not going to be able to be ready
Speaker 1: for training camp. I'm keeping him. How much would you
Speaker 1: pay him? I don't know how much I pay him,
Speaker 1: but whatever I have to pay to keep him, what
Speaker 1: would another team do? Or can I get him on
Speaker 1: a one year kind of prove it deal? He's already proven.
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna he's already proven him, I know, but he's
Speaker 1: coming out. That's a young guy coming off of al
Speaker 1: He's a young man. He's a young man. How much
Speaker 1: how much would you be willing Mickey um five to
Speaker 1: six with incentives and Potter the incentives has to be
Speaker 1: games played because who knows. I mean, we take for
Speaker 1: granted guys coming back from ACLS. Right, Oh yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just an ACL. Yeah. Well I don't necessarily take it
Speaker 1: for granted, but I'm not gonna give it that much
Speaker 1: weight to where I threw away a young man. Would
Speaker 1: you agree? So if you were, say Green Bay, would
Speaker 1: you give him a five year forty million dollars deal.
Speaker 1: Probably Well, here's what you would probably be doing too.
Speaker 1: Because of his injury situation. He probably starts the season
Speaker 1: on pup, missing the first six games of the year.
Speaker 1: It's very good, agree with Yeah, so he would play eleven.
Speaker 1: I mean, but you just go in knowing that we're
Speaker 1: gonna get him ready and we're not going to have
Speaker 1: him the first six games, but we're gonna have him
Speaker 1: for a basically, what is a full season for the
Speaker 1: last eleven regular for Cap Strap Cowboys? Can they make
Speaker 1: that bet? He's right with the guys, right, he is
Speaker 1: definitely worth it. Oh, I don't I agree with you.
Speaker 1: He can get. But what I'm sure the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: hoping and never be else out there is looking at well,
Speaker 1: he's coming off this al so damnam athletic man, now
Speaker 1: I know, and he's reliable. Way you sell it to
Speaker 1: him is these seasons go by fast. Okay, make this
Speaker 1: amount now and you hit it. We're gonna play you
Speaker 1: start in week seven and you're gonna show that you're
Speaker 1: healthy and then you're gonna hit the jackbot jack bought
Speaker 1: next spring. Yeah, that's how you sell it to him.
Speaker 1: So all right, we're out of time. Were those are
Speaker 1: in the tough decisions that they've got to start making,
Speaker 1: And I can't wait to dive into them next week.
Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna make the decisions for them next
Speaker 1: week here on our next edition of Mick Shots. So Cowboys.
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