WEBVTT - 2021 U.S. Open Recap with Shane Bacon

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<v Speaker 1>we are joined by the great Shane Bacon. He is

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<v Speaker 1>obviously one of the co hosts of golf channels Golf Today.

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<v Speaker 1>He's on TV almost every day there as well as

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<v Speaker 1>the host of Get a Grip with Maxhoma, a stellar

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<v Speaker 1>podcast that I'd highly recommend to anybody listening to this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're clearly a golf fan. If you're a golf fan,

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<v Speaker 1>Max and Shane have an awesome podcast that gives you

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievable insights. So Shane joined and we talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one US Open, everything that happens Sunday, and

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<v Speaker 1>then some more big picture things and a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of chat about the Olympics and the Open Championship. At

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<v Speaker 1>the end, without further ado, here is Shane Bacon.

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<v Speaker 2>I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When

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<v Speaker 2>I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I find my ball in a brid egg

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<v Speaker 2>Friday egg, the dreaded Frida egg Friday, Frida egg Brian Egg,

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<v Speaker 2>Frida egg Bride egg Lie, I'm about ready to run

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<v Speaker 2>off of the hump course.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Shane, how much does the East Coast time zone

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<v Speaker 1>suck to watch sports?

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<v Speaker 2>Andy, I'm trying so hard to be positive about all

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<v Speaker 2>of these things. But I got home from Tory Monday

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<v Speaker 2>at about one am, traveling across the country with the

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<v Speaker 2>two year old on an airplane and on all I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do Tuesday night to stay up and watch

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<v Speaker 2>the Suns, and it just took everything I have. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I it was my Jordan flu game to stay up

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<v Speaker 2>to watch the entire Sun's game, and I did it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm so thankful I did it. I saw the

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<v Speaker 2>eight and put back What a finish. But this, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's insanity, Dude, Dave, I told you my my, my rule.

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<v Speaker 2>I think should be the case of this. Have I

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<v Speaker 2>told you this about East Coast sports? Much like relegation

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<v Speaker 2>in soccer, if you're the worst record in the league,

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<v Speaker 2>or even just the worst record in the Eastern Conference,

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<v Speaker 2>the next year, you have to play all your home

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<v Speaker 2>games at noon Eastern, so it gives people something to

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<v Speaker 2>watch during the day, or maybe it's four pm. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care. But some of the players, they play hard

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<v Speaker 2>not to finish the lot dead last. It gives them incentive,

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<v Speaker 2>but at least give me something. It like, give me

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<v Speaker 2>a sport at three pm. I mean, if it's not baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just not go. I'm not gonna do it, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to. I'm trying to pay less attention to things,

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<v Speaker 2>not more. And uh, when I stopped playing baseball in

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<v Speaker 2>my teenage years, I was kind of out and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I'm gonna get back in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's the baseball is like the perfect argument for

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<v Speaker 1>having scarcity in your sport. You know, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two games just too many.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody I don't remember who it was that was on

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter during the US Open, but they were in New

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<v Speaker 2>York and they said the Yankees game was starting at

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<v Speaker 2>like three pm on Saturday, and it might have been

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<v Speaker 2>like Peter Burns or something and said, all the TVs

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<v Speaker 2>in the bar flipped to this random middle of the

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<v Speaker 2>season Yankee game and the US Opens going on like

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday at the US Opens, like sorry, it's game fifty

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<v Speaker 2>four of the Yankee season. We're turning all the TVs

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<v Speaker 2>to that. It's I don't know, I'm I can't do

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<v Speaker 2>the baseball thing. I don't fault anybody that loves the sport.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not for me, you know, it's just not

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<v Speaker 2>there's I mean a lot of people trash NBA and

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<v Speaker 2>it is what it is. But I'm just not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>spend my time watching a baseball game. I watched playoffs occasionally.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, many are saying that the key to the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun season was you leave in Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a it's been a circulated rumor. I'm I was

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<v Speaker 2>texting with some friends last night about Game two. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we're going to try to get tickets and go

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<v Speaker 2>to Game two, and apparently we have ends. If they

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<v Speaker 2>make the finals, I feel bad if I fly back.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they going to lose by forty to fifty? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it might have been me holding him back

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<v Speaker 2>this whole time. But from afar, it's nice to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the most fun basketball team since the early

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<v Speaker 2>season Warriors, and I'm not in Arizona for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time in like fifteen years. It's very special.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember talking to you at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the year about this. It's like if Suns are finally

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<v Speaker 1>fun and you're gone, you know, it sucks. Anyways, you

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<v Speaker 1>were out at toy doing live, from doing golf today,

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of stuff out there. What will be your

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<v Speaker 1>lasting impressions from the twenty twenty one US Open, Big

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<v Speaker 1>big question here.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know, for me, like honestly, looking back

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<v Speaker 2>on this, it'll be finally getting a young player that

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<v Speaker 2>won a major, you know, I mean, that went out

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<v Speaker 2>and won it. I've been talking to a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people as listening to you guys on shotgun Start. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if this is just a thing that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>happen as much in majors, or we maybe just think

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<v Speaker 2>it happens more often than it does. But like going

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<v Speaker 2>and getting it, winning a major championship, you winning it,

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<v Speaker 2>not waiting for somebody else to lose it. It just

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't happen as much as you think it does. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>even thinking about the PGA, I mean, Phil played fantastic

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<v Speaker 2>in solid golf, but there was never that push that

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<v Speaker 2>made it necessary for Phil to make those late birdies.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the ROM finishes the first time since Phil

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<v Speaker 2>at Mirfield where somebody birdie the last two holes in

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<v Speaker 2>a major to win, And so you think about that,

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<v Speaker 2>what was that eight years ago? I mean, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, and we're not talking about Schwartzel's finish, just

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<v Speaker 2>two birdies over the last two holes. So I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in three or four years, when we think

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<v Speaker 2>about in twenty one, I think it'll be the WROM

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<v Speaker 2>finish that we go back to, because you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys talked a lot about this throughout the week,

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<v Speaker 2>you and Brennan did, But it doesn't have to be

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<v Speaker 2>a great golf course to have a great championship. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was a great championship considering all the

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<v Speaker 2>names that we're in it, and I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>as exciting as you're gonna get, especially you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>all the characters involved. So it'll be the wrong finish

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<v Speaker 2>that I'll remember, I think in five years from now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the thing I think about major championships, and

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<v Speaker 1>I always think the best championships are when you look

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<v Speaker 1>up at the top of the leader board and if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a player that's in tenth, you say to yourself, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really see that score out there. That wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>in the bag this week, because you know, but this

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<v Speaker 1>major championship in terms of like television drama, compelling Sunday coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>This outside of like a two person duel was about

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<v Speaker 1>as good as it guess, because there's twelve guys that

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<v Speaker 1>could win in the middle of this. You know, golf

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<v Speaker 1>course to a certain extent, keeping people close together also

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<v Speaker 1>has a very high entertainment value, and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>also it aided the finish here. I mean, who would

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<v Speaker 1>have said to with the way things were going on

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<v Speaker 1>that back nine for everybody. When Louisu stays in makes

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<v Speaker 1>par on twelve, if you say, oh, you play even

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<v Speaker 1>par in you win everybody everybody would have been like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to win if he plays even par. And

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<v Speaker 1>because at that time Harris English all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>looked really good three under.

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<v Speaker 2>Three, I legitimately thought three might be a playoff, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>once he finished and shot sixty eight. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>doing featured holes all week with Trevor Immelman, and our

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<v Speaker 2>holes were eleven, twelve, thirteen, And that's where all the

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<v Speaker 2>craziness was happening, you know, on Sunday, and so we've

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<v Speaker 2>got all this stuff going on and ball stuck in

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<v Speaker 2>trees and Colin morricawb kind of forgets how to play

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<v Speaker 2>golf on thirteen for half an hour and Bryson slips

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<v Speaker 2>on thirteen and his he ends his championship on the

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<v Speaker 2>par five. You know, I mean there was there was

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<v Speaker 2>a moment where I was convinced one hundred percent that

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<v Speaker 2>Briceing was gonna win. There was a moment I was

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<v Speaker 2>convinced one hundred percent that Kopka was gonna win or

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<v Speaker 2>at least getting a playoff. I felt a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>like it felt a little for a while like there

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<v Speaker 2>was it wasn't gonna be wrong, and then all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, it might be wrong. He makes the Pudd

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<v Speaker 2>on seventeen. I'm like, okay, maybe Rom gets in a playoff,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the Verdy at eighteen and you're at six

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<v Speaker 2>and you go, okay, now Louis got to catch you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy to think that there was a time where

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<v Speaker 2>I was convinced one of, like, what the top seven

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<v Speaker 2>best players on the planet, we're gonna win a major.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't really remember the last time. I keep going

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<v Speaker 2>back to twenty eleven Augusta, when all those guys were

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<v Speaker 2>in the mix late, you know, and you had and

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<v Speaker 2>if you think about it, it was kind of Pete Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Day and Adam Scott was in the mix, Tiger was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of flirting with it for a bit, and then

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<v Speaker 2>Schwartzel goes out and wins it. It felt a little

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<v Speaker 2>like the Eleven Masters to me, and there was equal

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<v Speaker 2>amount of throwing up on yourself equal Mount Birdie's right,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why it was. It was cool because you

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<v Speaker 2>were getting both the good and the bad of major golf.

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<v Speaker 2>So listen, I know you're not an enormous fan of

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<v Speaker 2>Tory Pines. You and I've had conversations about it before,

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<v Speaker 2>but drama wise, I mean, you know you kindor are

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<v Speaker 2>two for two and what you're looking for in a

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<v Speaker 2>major because it was exciting and again, you could have

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<v Speaker 2>an exciting major championship on a dirt track if you

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<v Speaker 2>have the best in the world involved. And we got

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<v Speaker 2>exciting golf again at Toris, So you know, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to I guess you got to give it credit for

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<v Speaker 2>at least giving us great majors when it comes around

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<v Speaker 2>to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, obviously storybook finishes both times around, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think I struggle with that that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of defense just because like when do we have the

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<v Speaker 1>best players in the world get together and they don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't have a great leader board. Every

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<v Speaker 1>single time they get together, the best players in the

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<v Speaker 1>world get together, we have a great leader board, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I I got questions about eleven through thirteen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it seemed like Rory hit perfect shots, the

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<v Speaker 1>best shots of any player on eleven, and he like

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<v Speaker 1>would make both he made both pars. And then how

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<v Speaker 1>many guys hit that putt on twelve on Sunday, like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty feet by? And then what happened on the thirteenth

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<v Speaker 1>t Like, what was going on? Did you have any

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<v Speaker 1>insight into those?

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<v Speaker 2>So eleven? Okay, tell me you know as much about

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<v Speaker 2>architecture as anybody I know. I keep going back to

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<v Speaker 2>eleven at Tory, especially this week at the US Open,

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<v Speaker 2>it felt a little like seventeen at Bayhill. Does that

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<v Speaker 2>make sense? It's it's a long iron. You can't really

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<v Speaker 2>get the ball close. The best shot you can hit

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<v Speaker 2>is to hit it to about twenty twenty five feet,

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<v Speaker 2>But it's the smart shot, right You're playing it to

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<v Speaker 2>the fat part of the green. You've got to use

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<v Speaker 2>the slopes to get the ball close. And then Rory

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<v Speaker 2>gets up there and hits exactly what you're looking for

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<v Speaker 2>nobody hit it was nobody was hit it hole high.

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<v Speaker 2>And he gets on the tee and he hits a

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<v Speaker 2>dead center of the green to thirty feet and you

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<v Speaker 2>go perfect, You made par eleven was the hardest hole

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<v Speaker 2>for the entire week.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where you thought he might win.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly, considering the way he played twelve throughout the week.

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<v Speaker 2>He birdied in each of the first three rounds. So

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<v Speaker 2>he hits it to thirty feet, he hits just an

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<v Speaker 2>awful putt, I mean just awful, leaves it six feet

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<v Speaker 2>low and short. And I was on live from on

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday talking about Rory and I said, what we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>from Rory this week is different than what we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>from Rory in the past. I went back to Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>when he finished in the dark. I remember when they

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<v Speaker 2>made Justin Rose run up to the tee at eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Rory's playing basically in the dark and he wedges it

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<v Speaker 2>to that back left hole location, which typical Rory over

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<v Speaker 2>the last seven years. Hits that there, it rips back

0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.400
<v Speaker 2>thirty feet, two puts. He two putts for par. He

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<v Speaker 2>gets off the golf course and you kind of go, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>you probably left one out there did eighteen, he wedges

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<v Speaker 2>it to eight feet and makes that putt. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a moment on what was it fifteen where he hits

0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.720
<v Speaker 2>it left or fourteen where he hit left on Saturday

0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and he somehow saves bogey and you go, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>place where Rory makes double a lot and he's saved five.

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<v Speaker 2>It just there were these moments with Rory throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>week where that was where he would typically let these

0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.840
<v Speaker 2>majors get away from him, and he wasn't letting him

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<v Speaker 2>get away from him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Sunday he's just kind of like plugging along.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not doing anything spectacular, but he's done. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's shooting themselves out of the tournament and you're and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden names are falling out and you're like, oh, Rory.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he hits it there, he hits just I mean,

0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.960
<v Speaker 2>he hits just the typical Rory putt that he's done

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<v Speaker 2>over the last you know, five six years, where he's

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<v Speaker 2>got six feet, doesn't hit the hole, does the hand thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the thing I love where he's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's kind of doing this and you're like, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't the hole from six feet I don't really know

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<v Speaker 2>which way you thought it was gonna break. Then he

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<v Speaker 2>hits in the fairry bunker on twelve, he gets an

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<v Speaker 2>awful break. A lot of those balls we're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>feeding into the bunker. Of course, his plugs into that

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<v Speaker 2>the down slope lip. I mean, you can't, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Just it was a terrible bunker shot though too to

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<v Speaker 1>hit it over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it was the Fanny one. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>can hit middle of the green he had. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he had like one seventy nine or something. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>hit in the middle of the green with an eight

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<v Speaker 2>iron and you're fine, maybe a seven iron and he

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<v Speaker 2>hits that the scared swing where you miss it right,

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<v Speaker 2>plugs in there and then it's done. He makes double

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<v Speaker 2>and it's over. I'll tell you this, he hit the

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<v Speaker 2>best shot. I'm thirteen. I saw all week. Give him

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<v Speaker 2>a chance at the eagle. I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>takes on thirteen. I'd like to get with you on

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<v Speaker 2>at some point. I talked about it and get a

0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:39.600
<v Speaker 2>grip with Max yesterday. That episode's out, but he's still

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like he makes double and you know he

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't really done that throughout the week and you were

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<v Speaker 2>kind of waiting, is Rory gonna finally not have this

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<v Speaker 2>this hole that shoot him out of a championship, out

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<v Speaker 2>of a major. And he goes bogey double there and

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<v Speaker 2>he's done, and that's that's it for Rory. Uh. I've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this to Andy, going from Rory to Koepka.

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<v Speaker 2>Kept had a chance at post five, you know, which

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<v Speaker 2>would have changed the entire dynamic of this this late

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<v Speaker 2>major championship. And he just makes an awful bogie on eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrible bogey on twelve too. The three putt on twelve

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<v Speaker 1>was really bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you asked about the three putts on twelve. Everybody,

0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Kepka did it, Bryson did it, Paul Casey did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody was running that putt not four feet by, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>had Kepka had twelve feet. Louis ran it by and

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<v Speaker 2>made it from like nine feet, Bryson ran it by

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<v Speaker 2>and missed that putt. Everybody. I don't know what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on on twelve, but everybody that hit it late,

0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.280
<v Speaker 2>that hit it over there on the right, that gave

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<v Speaker 2>themselves the putt you need, because there were three birdies

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<v Speaker 2>on twelve all day long. Everybody that hit it over

0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.240
<v Speaker 2>there ran it by eight or nine feet. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you never see that, Andy, you never see that anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>to run it that far by. And we kept getting

0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.240
<v Speaker 2>player after player after player doing it. It was so wild,

0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.640
<v Speaker 2>and of course Louie gets up there and makes the

0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.720
<v Speaker 2>comebacker that everybody he was missing. Everybody was missing. It left,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you get to thirteen. They've got the tea

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<v Speaker 2>moved up. We saw players slipping. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it made the telecast, but Patrick Can'tley was was fairly

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<v Speaker 2>close to whipping his t shot. That's how much he

0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.800
<v Speaker 2>slipped on the tee there at thirteen. Like for him

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<v Speaker 2>to make contact, Trevor and I were talking about it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it was unbelievable athleticism for him to make contact

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<v Speaker 2>his right foot was possibly it was I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just close to the ocean. It's I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, it was like it was just that hangy,

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<v Speaker 2>heavy air all week and for whatever reason that tea

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<v Speaker 2>players were slipping on. I don't know what the reasoning was,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was more it was you saw more slips

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<v Speaker 2>there than anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if spikes were actually a detriment on that

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<v Speaker 1>tea box, because like, if you're playing in tennis shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you'd never slip even if it's wet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but bryceon Bryson said it right when he made contact,

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, I can't. I did it again, and he

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<v Speaker 2>looked at his shoe and he goes, my shoes clean.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering if Bryson needs nail.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Bryson was a well I think he

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<v Speaker 1>has nails.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think he might have changed because I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>hear him as much this week, so maybe he's gone

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<v Speaker 2>to side soft. Maybe that's something he's going to change

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<v Speaker 2>after he does some serious experimental uh you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>uh proceeding a guy, get a spike guy, get a

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<v Speaker 2>fan guy, get a light guy, get an umbrella guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was wild. That thirteenth holl was wild. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you had you had Colin Morerikowa make the most

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<v Speaker 2>confusing decision of the week. He had three eighteen in

0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.960
<v Speaker 2>and hits three wood and blows it in the right roff.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't be there, he makes double. Bryson lays up

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<v Speaker 2>in the right rouff. You can't do that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>say Louis hits his layup in the right roff and

0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.840
<v Speaker 2>then his ball somehow stays on that ledge, which had

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<v Speaker 2>to have been about a two foot area that the

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<v Speaker 2>ball doesn't roll back on. But you know, I loved

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<v Speaker 2>I love the USGA and I love the US Open.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's been a big part of my life

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<v Speaker 2>and it's been a big part of my career. That

0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.440
<v Speaker 2>thirteenth hole was bad all week. You know, I watched

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of golf there and there's no reward. That

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<v Speaker 2>was my big thing is there was no way to

0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.600
<v Speaker 2>get rewarded there. On Saturday, the best shot we saw

0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.639
<v Speaker 2>in Kopka banged his second shot into the lip of

0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.840
<v Speaker 2>the bunker and it landed on the grass slip of

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<v Speaker 2>the bunker and then kicked on the green. Balls that

0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.080
<v Speaker 2>were landing on the green were rolling over, balls that

0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.720
<v Speaker 2>were landing short, rolling back seventy yards. There was no reward.

0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:22.600
<v Speaker 2>That's the issue is you at least need to be

0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.600
<v Speaker 2>rewarded if you can hit a good golf shot. I

0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:26.719
<v Speaker 2>talked to home about it. He was saying that that

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<v Speaker 2>back tee it just doesn't it doesn't help the hole

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<v Speaker 2>at all. It's a tough t shot. Unless you're one

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<v Speaker 2>of the top ten longest guys on tour. I just

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<v Speaker 2>felt like thirteen played poorly all week.

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<v Speaker 1>Phil talked about that a lot in his pre show.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually after the first round, you know, he was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just nowhere to hit it that I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know exactly what the number is.

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<v Speaker 1>That The thing that I think with it is that

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<v Speaker 1>if you lay up short of the big valley, you're

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<v Speaker 1>just too far away then, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And Max talked about it being a blind layup. Max

0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.480
<v Speaker 2>was saying on get a grip, you guys, listen to

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<v Speaker 2>it if you want. He was great this week, as

0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.560
<v Speaker 2>he always is, but he was talking about he said

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<v Speaker 2>the thing he dislikes the most in golf is blind

0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.720
<v Speaker 2>layups because he says, it's like they're trying too hard

0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:14.879
<v Speaker 2>to make it difficult. And you know, he's saying, you're

0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:16.600
<v Speaker 2>laying up with an eight iron. You know, you're laying

0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.080
<v Speaker 2>up with an eight iron to a blind area and

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<v Speaker 2>then to hit a wedge. It's just not it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>really make a lot of sense for for trying to

0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:26.760
<v Speaker 2>test the best in the world. It was, but it

0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.120
<v Speaker 2>was it was. It was a game of avoiding dibbots. Again,

0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:30.400
<v Speaker 2>that's so locked.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where every municipal Joe hits it too. Everybody

0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.040
<v Speaker 1>hits from there. So it's just it's going there's not

0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.280
<v Speaker 1>in a fair way down there either. It's the other problem.

0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:42.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like a tiny little ribbon, so it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty yards wide. Of course it's gonna be just littered

0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:46.840
<v Speaker 1>with divits because you know the balls are coming down.

0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.240
<v Speaker 1>There's just it's just so much of chance. And we

0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.280
<v Speaker 1>saw it was it in the first round. Bryson ended

0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:53.000
<v Speaker 1>up down there in.

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<v Speaker 2>The second round, Yeah, yeah, he had that hybrid in

0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:58.600
<v Speaker 2>it was about a yard short of the green, rolls

0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:00.360
<v Speaker 2>all the way back down and it did. I think

0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:03.840
<v Speaker 2>he makes six there, yeah, and you know it's and

0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:06.800
<v Speaker 2>he got a crappy break, right, I mean, it was

0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.080
<v Speaker 2>a bad break to have the ball. I'd say he

0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:12.520
<v Speaker 2>hit probably two great golf shots. He smoked his t

0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:14.560
<v Speaker 2>shot and I think that second shot was exactly how

0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:16.520
<v Speaker 2>he wanted to play it, and it was probably a

0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:19.440
<v Speaker 2>yard or two short of the putting surface right at

0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.560
<v Speaker 2>it and it rolls back to the same spot that

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<v Speaker 2>anybody that's just laying up with a seven iron was

0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:25.639
<v Speaker 2>laid it up to. So I don't know that that

0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:27.640
<v Speaker 2>to me if you were kind of going to ride out.

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<v Speaker 2>If I just simply wrote out how that hole played,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think people would read what I was writing

0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.120
<v Speaker 2>and go, oh, that sounds like an awesome par five

0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.239
<v Speaker 2>And what's crazy, andya is we don't get a lot

0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.440
<v Speaker 2>of US Opens that have two par fives on the back.

0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.960
<v Speaker 2>That rarely happened. So to have a US Open course

0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:46.359
<v Speaker 2>that has two par fives on the back, it would

0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:48.960
<v Speaker 2>be fun if they both gave opportunity for good, and

0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.320
<v Speaker 2>I felt like they gave opportunity for bad. And we

0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.080
<v Speaker 2>saw two big doubles from two of the best in

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.120
<v Speaker 2>the world. But you know, we didn't see some amazing three.

0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Now Rory almost made a three, but we didn't see

0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.560
<v Speaker 2>some amazing eagle some guy, you know, like like when

0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Kopka was trying to chase down grey Woodland and he

0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:06.359
<v Speaker 2>flies that hybrid on eighteen over the flagstick. You know,

0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:10.240
<v Speaker 2>those those are the moments that make championships.

0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Well and further further to that point, Woodland's you know,

0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:17.520
<v Speaker 1>hitting fourteen in two that year was such a huge moment.

0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right. Great point exactly.

0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:25.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, the thirteenth eight. It did provide some entertainment.

0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:28.679
<v Speaker 1>I will say that, you know it this is like

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes like what we talk about a s chotcun start

0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.399
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but like sometimes things can be so

0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:37.600
<v Speaker 1>bad that they turn good. That might be an example

0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:39.600
<v Speaker 1>of a hole that was so bad that it was like, oh,

0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:43.320
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty fun to watch because you know, Bryce is

0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:46.159
<v Speaker 1>obviously self destruct. I think like that's the thing that

0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.679
<v Speaker 1>I go back to with this tournament and is like

0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.120
<v Speaker 1>John Rohm went out and won it on the last

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.360
<v Speaker 1>two holes, right, he got some good breaks along the way.

0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:58.600
<v Speaker 1>He got some bad breaks, but like there are there's

0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:01.479
<v Speaker 1>got to be ten guys that tournament feeling like they

0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:03.760
<v Speaker 1>could have won it, you know, not Bryson. I know

0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:05.800
<v Speaker 1>he said he could have gotten it to eight or

0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:08.240
<v Speaker 1>nine when he finished at three over. That's a little

0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 1>bold of acclaim, but like you look at like you

0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:13.280
<v Speaker 1>get a break here, you get a break there. I

0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:15.520
<v Speaker 1>think that's the thing that one of the things I'll

0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:18.480
<v Speaker 1>take away from it is that like this one really

0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:20.000
<v Speaker 1>came down to a bouncer two.

0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:22.800
<v Speaker 2>And the rom bounce even on eighteen. I mean, you

0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:24.680
<v Speaker 2>think about the bounce. I mean that ball could have

0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:27.720
<v Speaker 2>kicked left right his second shot and it kicks into

0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:29.800
<v Speaker 2>the bunker on the downslope, and then Rom's got to

0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:32.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of create a birdy opportunity, which he did. He

0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:36.680
<v Speaker 2>did unbelievably. Can I can we talk to Bryson comments?

0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 2>I know it's been a couple of days, but I

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:42.000
<v Speaker 2>keep going back to this. You know, when you are

0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:46.080
<v Speaker 2>using the directions on your phone to go somewhere. I

0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:54.240
<v Speaker 2>just feel like Bryson's comments after golf almost are always

0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:57.359
<v Speaker 2>you going the opposite direction that your phone's telling you

0:22:57.400 --> 0:22:59.680
<v Speaker 2>to go, you know, like the phone's going up here,

0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:02.120
<v Speaker 2>take a right, and I feel like Bryson always takes

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:06.120
<v Speaker 2>the left. That you should be upset. You are standing

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 2>on ten t leading the US Open, trying to win

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:11.600
<v Speaker 2>back to back. This has happened seven times in the

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.679
<v Speaker 2>history of the US Open. Don't walk and you shoot

0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:16.440
<v Speaker 2>forty four and you walk off, and you go.

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:19.159
<v Speaker 1>You got thirty straight holes with no bogey.

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:22.640
<v Speaker 2>And you go, I'm already over it. You're not. I mean,

0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:25.560
<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't be over it. If you're already over it,

0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:29.719
<v Speaker 2>then you are. Then your mentality about this championship is wrong.

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:33.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can't shoot forty four on the final

0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:34.960
<v Speaker 2>round of a US Open that you're leading on the

0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 2>tenth te and walk off and go, I'm already over it.

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.399
<v Speaker 2>I've already won one of these. Because if that's your mentality,

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 2>then just skip US Opens forever. Because if you've already

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 2>won one and you don't care to win another, or

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:48.000
<v Speaker 2>you don't care that you had a great opportunity to

0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:50.320
<v Speaker 2>win back to back, then why are you teeing it

0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:53.439
<v Speaker 2>up there in the first place. You should be upset. You.

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:56.200
<v Speaker 2>We want you to be upset as a golf fan.

0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 2>We want you to be upset because you played like

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:01.639
<v Speaker 2>crap down the stretch when you had a great opportunity

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 2>to win. You know, Andy, to win a US Open

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:07.360
<v Speaker 2>on the on the on the East coast at this

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 2>exclusive private golf course that's historic. To couple that with

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 2>winning on the West coast this public office the next year,

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 2>back to back. What a story that is. And to

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:22.119
<v Speaker 2>say you're over it to me, A, I don't buy it,

0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 2>And B why do you feel like that's the road

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 2>you should go down? Just just say you're upset. All

0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 2>we all would understand that.

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I completely agree. I think his press conferences are

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 1>just ridiculous. It's like he's trying to put on like

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a show. I love that he was like mad about

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:46.360
<v Speaker 1>the term derailed. Came off the rails, like, well, how

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>else would you describe what.

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:52.679
<v Speaker 2>Happened shot forty four? Forty four? Like if you shot

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 2>forty we'd be going, man, that was brutal and forty four.

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you and I played some competitive golf through

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 2>our lives. When you shoot one of those rare times

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:06.159
<v Speaker 2>where you come in on some just some awful number,

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 2>I know, there are moments where you just have to

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 2>laugh it off, but.

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 1>You're like shell shocks in a lot of times you

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>just can't right. And like that's the thing is like

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I would be if I were in his shoes, I'd

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:20.400
<v Speaker 1>imagine it. I'd be like, you know, to be honest,

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.399
<v Speaker 1>like I don't even know what happened, right, everything was

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 1>in control and then it wasn't. Like that's kind of

0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:28.360
<v Speaker 1>what it looked like what happened like? And I think

0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>that it shows a little bit like how high of

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>a level it, you know, when you're playing at that uh,

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:40.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, in contention leading at a US Open, and

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:43.400
<v Speaker 1>how small the margin is for air to where it

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 1>can just tailspin into an utter disaster. I think that's

0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 1>like one of the things that should give everybody an

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:53.200
<v Speaker 1>appreciation is like just like these guys, they don't have

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>like a Ford f one fifty that can you know,

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.199
<v Speaker 1>you can burn the oil down and you know go

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 1>without an oil change. Have some things broken. These These

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:05.199
<v Speaker 1>are like Lamborghinis that one little thing gets like a

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 1>little off and all of a sudden it a lot

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:10.440
<v Speaker 1>of things don't work well. And I think one of

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 1>the things that I took away, I came away so

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 1>bullsh on Bryson because like he really didn't play very

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:19.239
<v Speaker 1>good the first two days and then it was and

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>he's still like always within shouting distance just because his

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 1>floor is so low. Our floor is so high in

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:28.639
<v Speaker 1>terms of like golf, like that forty four might be

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 1>the worst round of golf we see him play for

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>a long time.

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I said it on Live from on I think Saturday,

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 2>when Damon and I were on Live From I said,

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Bryson's proving that he has the best B and C

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 2>games since Tiger. I mean, his B and C game

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 2>can can compete. Now, I mean you could probably argue

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 2>that keepkaz Is up there as well, which is obviously

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 2>very fun that those are the two guys you debate.

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.879
<v Speaker 2>But Bryson's ability to get himself in the conversation and

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 2>these championships where it sure doesn't seem like he's got

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:59.440
<v Speaker 2>his best stuff is what we yearn for from guys

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>like Rory, right. It's what we hope to see from

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 2>the Rareries and the Speeds and the Justin Thomases of

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 2>the world, because we want them to be in contention,

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 2>even if it's not there the week that they're supposed

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:10.400
<v Speaker 2>to win.

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 1>Hey, So back to rom I think, obviously, like he was,

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I think the guy that everybody was like, well, he's

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna win a major soon. He was like the de

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 1>facto who's gonna be the next first time win major winner.

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I think everybody would go John Rahm. I think I

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I even was getting a little rap uh, you know,

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:31.640
<v Speaker 1>restless waiting for at least a close call uh from

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>him where he was really in the mix. And obviously

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 1>now he he has his major. Who would you say,

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>is is the guy now that we would that you

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>would look at or a couple guys immediately that jump

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 1>off the pages, like he's the next major winner, first

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>time major winner.

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think the answers Xander. I think Xander's

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 2>the answer. I think Fenale is probably the bet. So

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 2>you're probably gonna get a better number on Tony Finow

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>In terms of who's the next, you know, person to

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 2>break into the major world. Feenal's just been so unbelievable

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 2>and these majors finish in the top ten that you

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 2>just expect that if he keeps doing that, he's eventually

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:15.159
<v Speaker 2>going to win a major championship. So I would probably

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 2>have Xander first, just because I think Xander's the most

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 2>talented of the bunch that hasn't won one. I think

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 2>female should be up there considered what he's done basically

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 2>up until this US Open, and probably a sleeper in

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 2>the world is can't Ley, right, I think Can'tley is

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 2>a name as well. But you know, you know, dude,

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 2>like you can go through this European tour list of players,

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, Tyrrell, Hatton and Fitzpatrick your favorite. I mean,

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 2>there are some of those guys on on that side

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 2>of things. Sung Jay is another one that I feel

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 2>like any of these guys that win a major would

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 2>not be surprising, but I feel like Xander's game, he

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 2>just is there so much. I expect Xander to be

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 2>a major champion before maybe some of those other guys.

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he finishes, He's finished at the top ten

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and over fifty percent of his tries obviously, I think

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>that's the one. Hoblin is another one I was throw

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 1>in there also, But it's uh, I feel like everybody

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>that we think really should have one at this point

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 1>has one.

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably yep.

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Because like you start you look through the rankings, it's

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>like none of them, Like, you know, Xander, if he

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>guess one, he gets one. But he you know, and

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>I think he's getting to that level, but he was

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>nowhere near like the Ram you know, Oh, the other

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>guy Ricky. You know, everybody asked about Ricky.

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I didn't want I didn't want to bring

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 2>him up. I didn't want to say anything about it.

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 2>So I'm going through so top ten in the world,

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Xander's the highest rank player without a major. He's fifth

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:50.479
<v Speaker 2>in the world, can't Lay seven, Hatten's eleven, and then

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Hoblind's fourteen and Females fifteen. It's it is crazy. You

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 2>make such a great point It's like, as you go

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:59.959
<v Speaker 2>down this list, there isn't really a name that scream

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 2>off the board right that says I should have a

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 2>major by now. I don't really feel like there is

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 2>that name after rom win It one one. But I

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 2>have I run through my my Sunday major thing with

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 2>you yet? Have I have I talked to you about

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 2>my Sunday Brooks thing basically going back to the twenty

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 2>nineteen Masters.

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Go for it. I'm looking forward to.

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 2>This, Okay, So I don't have all my notes in

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 2>front of me, so I'm just gonna have to go

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 2>off memory.

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, you're a little off. We won't. We

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>won't kill you.

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 2>Twenty nineteen Masters has two great puts at the end.

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't hit the hole on either of them. I would,

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 2>I would say, as good a look as I can

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 2>remember somebody having on seventeen AUGUSTA. I mean, that's such

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 2>a hard hole. You don't ever see anybody hit it close.

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 2>He hit it really close on seventeen, and then he

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 2>hit hit it on eighteen close and did the rory

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 2>thing where he's doing the hand like it went the

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 2>other way.

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Those are two putts that I really vividly remember and

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I think the thing that got me about those two

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>putts is, like we see Koepka like always puts so

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.959
<v Speaker 1>well of these things, those two putts he looked almost

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>a little out of sorts on him, like they like everything.

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>It just didn't feel like he hit the putts the

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>way he hit putts normally. And I don't know if

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>that was a little bit of the tiger juice coming

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>at him.

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, and and and and and you know so,

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 2>so he has those birdies late that would have changed

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 2>the whole, the whole dynamic of that final round. Next

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 2>major is the PGA has what seven shot lead going

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 2>into it, plays awful four bogeys on the back Dustin

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>I think was it within one at one point. Now

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 2>he wins that major. So I mean, it's not like

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 2>we can discredit what he did those first three days

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 2>to put him in a position where he could play

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 2>a mediocre final round and have a chance. Fast forward.

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Next major was the US Open. Has an unbelievably hot start.

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 2>If you remember, thinky bird eat something like four of

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 2>his first five. Yeah, doesn't.

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Woodland kind of was answered the bell though. That was too.

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>That was something that I think was like a little

0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a he he threw a haymaker,

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 1>but you know, the Woodland kind of got him back

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>with something, you know, across.

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Or Woodland Woodley butter birdie like like two of his

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 2>third first three holes or something. Kepka hit it really

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 2>close on seven, missed it, and I think he made

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 2>one birdie the rest of the day. Never really put

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 2>any pressure on h On Woodland outside of that shot

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 2>at eighteen, which I mean he did. I don't think

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 2>he made birdie there, right, didn't he didn't He chip

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 2>it up there and missed the putt, which didn't It didn't.

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 2>It didn't matter anyway. Open Championship next Shane Lowry, big lead.

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Kepka Bogi's like his first four holes I think on

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Sunday and uh. And I mean, you know, obviously you're

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 2>trying to go out there and apply a little bit

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 2>of pressure. He was playing with JB. Holmes. Couldn't do

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 2>anything from that. Uh. And then you kind of get

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 2>into twenty twenty Andy and it's like, you know, we

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of saw a lot of the same stuff PGA

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Championship in twenty twenty. You know, he's talking all that

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 2>trash about Dustin he is the second worst score on

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Sunday of anybody in the field. You know he did

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 2>he obviously didn't. He didn't play wing foot. Uh. I

0:32:57.760 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 2>don't really remember what he did at that Masters on

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 2>he maybe missed the cut at the Master, the.

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Knee the knee thing. He was not finished seventh. He

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>finished seventh at the twenty twenty Masters.

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 2>And then and then and then he was injured. He

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>like battling injury, wasn't really in the in in much

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 2>of the conversation there, and then really, I mean, you

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 2>get into this PGA Championship and see what he played

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 2>like on Sunday there, played very very mediocre golf, made

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 2>some very very questionable decisions on Sunday, trying to push

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, Phil Mickelson a little bit. I think you

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 2>were kind of waiting for him to push Phil. And

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 2>then here, I mean, he's got a great chance at

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 2>shooting at posting five hunder and played great golf basically

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 2>for ten holes eleven holes and then bogie sixteen, bogie

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 2>eighteen at Torrey Pines when he really needed a late birdie.

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just saying, over the last couple of years

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 2>in these major championships, it has been a Sunday where

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 2>we've seen Kapka struggle and there's I mean, basically, if

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 2>you go through every major, he's seen a struggle in

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 2>some in some capacity there. So I don't want to

0:33:57.000 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, the guy's unbelievable majors and get himself

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 2>in a position know where he can win one. But

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 2>this Sunday thing is something I'm keeping my eye on.

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 1>My question about this would be like when you point

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>out where the struggles have come. You know, we saw

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Tiger was nails when he was ahead going into the

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 1>final round, but then you know when he's chasing from behind,

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>it was always the big thing. Tiger never comes from

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 1>behind to win, Like is that? Is it the same

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>thing with Kopka, where you know, when he's leading and

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>he's out in front, he's you know, almost impossible to

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>take down. But when he's you know, coming from behind,

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe there's something that he's trying to push a little

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 1>bit more than he usually does. Maybe that's it.

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 2>The Kopka mentality that he talked about to that point

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 2>does make sense, right. Kepka's mentality about these major championships

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.919
<v Speaker 2>where it's not having to be overly aggressive don't feel

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 2>not feeling like you have to make a whole bunch

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.360
<v Speaker 2>of birdies, just feeling like all you've got to do

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:52.800
<v Speaker 2>is play solid, smart golf and then all of a

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 2>sudden you do have to press late. Maybe that major

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 2>mentality has to change a little bit. I think also,

0:34:57.560 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 2>and I mean this is something that we don't talk

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:03.439
<v Speaker 2>up about. It's hard to win majors from behind, right,

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 2>So it's so you guys laugh about this all the time.

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:10.360
<v Speaker 2>We chuckle about it a lot. It's, Hey, all this

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 2>guy's got to go out and do is shoot sixty

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 2>five on Sunday. You're like, yeah, but like that rarely,

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 2>if ever, happens. So maybe it's just maybe chasing people

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 2>down is really hard, and that's why we don't see

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot of closing Birdie Birdie finishes right. What there's

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 2>been forever in US opens now and it's Hogan, Jack,

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Tom Watson and John Rahm, Like, I mean that that's

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:36.879
<v Speaker 2>that's wild, and that shows that it's it's very very

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 2>hard to kind of come back and do it.

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Do you think, uh, do you think Louis doesn't make

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>that punt? If it's uh, if it's not, if it's

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>through the win on eighteen.

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm I love Louie, God, I love Louis, but I

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 2>don't have a lot of confidence in him having to

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 2>make one. You know, it's just he made it. He

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 2>made that one because it did it truly didn't matter.

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:02.719
<v Speaker 2>We do a thing, we do winners that don't win

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:07.720
<v Speaker 2>on golf today and this we're not going to remember

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:11.240
<v Speaker 2>this Louis run in ten years from now, but we should.

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 2>We should remember it. He shows up in every major

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 2>right now. It's it's it's remarkable to see him do it.

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:20.879
<v Speaker 2>But you know, the trophies matter, right, The trophies matter

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot more than anything else does. And to finish second,

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it. It's a good finish. But I

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 2>feel like we don't We're not going to remember it

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.879
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years away, going back on what Louie did,

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 2>basically going back to that masters.

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<v Speaker 1>Shane Bacon. So, we didn't get a really great open

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 1>qualifier story this year. I feel like it's one of

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the rare years that we didn't. We don't get a

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.399
<v Speaker 1>great one, and this kind of illuminated a little bit

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 1>when I when Brenda and I did this Lee Trevino

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>spotlight on a shotguns start, but just how awesome having

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>a field. This got a substantial open qualifier component to it.

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 1>I thought was was really is really neat because it

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 1>gives this like gives a player that comes out and

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>plays against the best players in the world and shows

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:21.799
<v Speaker 1>out like a different pathway to the tour. We saw

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 1>obviously like camp Smith did it really successfully and from Chambers,

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, finishing fourth at Chambers, getting his card, you know,

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.359
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago at Aaron Hills, we saw

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:34.800
<v Speaker 1>like this was like the breakout of Xander Schoffley. He

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:37.720
<v Speaker 1>obviously had his PGA Tour card, but he was heading

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 1>for you know, losing his PGA Tour card and then

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden he finishes six that at Aaron Hills.

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Cameron Champ was you know in that mix two. All

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 1>these guys were qualifiers and it serves as kind of

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:53.320
<v Speaker 1>like a launching pad for careers. Andrew Landry even to

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>a smaller degree, you know, he was sputtering as a

0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>touring professional and then Oakmont kind of like relaunched his

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>career gave them confidence. I tell me, do you think

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 1>there should there's space for more events where And I

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>think the key to this is having the best players

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 1>in the world in the in the field. Like, if

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not the best players of the world, I think

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you lose a little bit. But like, what do you

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 1>think about the idea of wgc's being the top say,

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 1>top seventy players in the world like they are now,

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 1>and then there's thirty open qualifier spots.

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I love it. I think it's it gives

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 2>it an identity all of a sudden, it's not just

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:32.840
<v Speaker 2>an everyday tour event. I mean, even if the w

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 2>gcs want to say they're the best player best fields

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 2>in the world, they're a little sleepy and they need

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 2>an identity reshape. And so I love the idea of

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 2>allowing these players that wouldn't be in the field otherwise

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 2>to get a chance to get in there. I mean,

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:49.839
<v Speaker 2>I keep going back to this Cameron Young run and uh,

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 2>you know we're going to start. I think we're going

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 2>to start this thing where we do our our current five,

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 2>the top five ranked players in the world. And there's

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 2>an argument to be made last month that Cameron Young's

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 2>a top five player in the world, and so to

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 2>get into those fields and to have a chance to compete. Andy,

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 2>what you're hinting at is to see more Wills Alatura's stories.

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 2>And I think everybody would sign up for more Wills

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Alatura stories because it has been so fun to follow

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.759
<v Speaker 2>him along. There are players out there that are good

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:25.240
<v Speaker 2>enough given the opportunity to go on tour and compete.

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Justin Sah is a player that keeps coming to mind.

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Justin Suys had opportunity on the PGA Tour, It's taken

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 2>them a little longer to kind of get in that

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 2>space to be as competitive as Victor and Matt Woolf

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:38.320
<v Speaker 2>and Bryson and that crew. But we know he's talented

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 2>enough to do. So. Let's say he gets into a

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 2>WGC by qualification, and he plays well in tops fives,

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 2>and that gets him in next week, and then he

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:48.359
<v Speaker 2>wins that next week. These things could happen, so I

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 2>love the idea. I also love the idea of big

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 2>events holding spots for two time corn Fairy winners. I

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 2>know that we're talking about promotion changing from three to two,

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 2>but if you've won twy on the corn Ferry Tour

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 2>in a season, you should get auto invites into all

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 2>the wgc's. Let's just give him a spot and so

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 2>now all of a sudden, you're getting a bonus for

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 2>the way you've played on the corn Ferry Tour. But yeah,

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 2>I love the idea of opening up and having more

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.879
<v Speaker 2>qualification because we're seeing less qualification on the PGA Tour.

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, you're seeing LA Open losing the

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 2>available the ability to play your way into these tournaments.

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:25.400
<v Speaker 2>And so let's open up the qualifying because golf is

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 2>getting deeper in the talent is widening, you know. I

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 2>mean there's four hundred guys that can win a professional

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 2>golf event right now.

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the thing I think about it is like

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's becoming more and more of a closed

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>door and there's only you know, a certain number of

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 1>spots available through corn Ferry Tour every year, you know,

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:47.279
<v Speaker 1>and it's like these this Open, the US Open, and

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:50.319
<v Speaker 1>it's it's been proven year after year after year. Like

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Xander's a perfect example, Like granted he had his card,

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 1>but he was not playing well and then all of

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>a sudden we saw him on the type of golf

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>courses that he's now proven and are suit on the best,

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the most difficult golf courses with the best players in

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the world. There's something that creates, you know, that brings

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the best out in him. He gets in the US

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Open because he qualifies, and all of a sudden, now

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 1>he's got his chance to perform on the best stage.

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>And you know, the guy hasn't finished worse than seventh

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 1>in a US Open since then.

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 2>It's I love the idea again. I just think that,

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, every golf tournament right now should just be

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 2>trying to think about how can I be unique? And

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 2>the golf tournaments that the non major golf events, the

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:37.920
<v Speaker 2>most successful events are the unique ones. I mean, you

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:41.320
<v Speaker 2>think about the waste management, it has a thing. Travelers

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:44.240
<v Speaker 2>has a thing. I mean, the Travelers has this unique

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 2>ability to get the best fields post major of any

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 2>event we see, and so the Travelers, all of a sudden,

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 2>is substantial. The Scottish Open has a thing. It's this

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Links tournament that is played right before the Open Championship.

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 2>The Dunhill Link has a thing. You're playing the old

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 2>course in Carnoustie and Kingsbarns like these golf tournaments that

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I get excited about that aren't major championships all have

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:12.879
<v Speaker 2>something unique and to be a great event to make

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 2>yourself separate than the regular PGA Tour, you've got to

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 2>have a thing, and that thing's either one thing you

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.360
<v Speaker 2>harp a lot on, is be a great golf course,

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean, rib is always going to be

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.839
<v Speaker 2>riv because the golf course is awesome. Pebble's always going

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 2>to be Pebble because Pebble's awesome. Even with the celebrities there,

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 2>you still want to see Pebble Beach on your television

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 2>once a year. If you're the WGC and you're looking

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:37.359
<v Speaker 2>for run out identity, I think this is a great

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:40.360
<v Speaker 2>way to make yourself something something new and something cool.

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it would be so cool to be

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:45.879
<v Speaker 1>talking about like Ricky Fowler out there playing and he's

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:49.880
<v Speaker 1>playing a qualification round with Cole Hammer, you know, because

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:53.840
<v Speaker 1>they're they're both trying to get into WGC. You know, China.

0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think I think it's a great idea

0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 2>you have. You have a lot of brilliant ideas. I'm

0:43:58.520 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 2>just going to tell you this is a good one.

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I liked this one. It just would it would automatically

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 1>give the WGC so much more juice than they have.

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:10.479
<v Speaker 1>So what looking ahead Open Championship, last major of the year,

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Who's who's the most desperate for for this Open? Who

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 1>would you say? What player would you say is that

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>is needs this Open the most?

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean that I think the default answers Rory. But

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:25.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't think it's I mean, unfortunately, I

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:28.400
<v Speaker 2>don't think there's I don't I don't foresee it happening.

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 2>So I would say, in a in a in a

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 2>weird way, I think Keopka needs it. I think Kepka

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 2>needs a major. I mean, he has majors and he

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 2>will forever have these major championships, But to end the

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 2>year with a Kepka Major, to say I won one

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 2>this season Bryson didn't, or I guess this year. I

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 2>know the season has been like thirty majors in this season,

0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:54.799
<v Speaker 2>but to say you've won one this year to in

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the in the year with Kepka Major for it to

0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:01.919
<v Speaker 2>be an Open, I feel like Kepka kind of needs

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 2>one because he's been so close and as I stated earlier,

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.839
<v Speaker 2>we're seeing a little shake. He finished to Kepka's major

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 2>run as of late, So I feel like he's a

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.759
<v Speaker 2>guy that I'd probably put on that list. What about you,

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 2>I would.

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Kind of lean Kopka, you know in the trying to

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 1>be different. What about Speed? I think like the reclamation

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:28.920
<v Speaker 1>project and everything the coming back, like to fully be back.

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I think there's an exclamation par that could be made

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:33.080
<v Speaker 1>with a major win.

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:36.880
<v Speaker 2>To me, the last hurdle for him back is the

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:39.239
<v Speaker 2>final rounds. That's where he's really struggled. I think he's

0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:42.239
<v Speaker 2>shot in the sixties in one final round in twenty

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty one, and that's when he won in Texas. That's

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 2>the only round in the sixties he's shot on a Sunday.

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:49.840
<v Speaker 2>That's the next step for me. With Speed, the finding

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 2>whatever is going haywire in the final round, and he's

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:55.359
<v Speaker 2>talked about this one percent better thing. So I mean,

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 2>I do think it's still a work in progress. But

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 2>to me, to me, Kepka's still Trump's speath because to Kepka,

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 2>majors are the only thing he cares about. And for

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Speed, this this return to the top of the

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 2>world in golf. Sure it would be helped by a major,

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:15.440
<v Speaker 2>but just playing well in these majors has been a

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 2>good thing to me. I think twenty twenty two is

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 2>the Speed year. I think twenty twenty two is when

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Speed wins another Masters. Looking at kind of the golf courses,

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:24.439
<v Speaker 2>I think they set up really well. I think US

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Open sets up well for Jordan Speed next year. So

0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking more at next year as the major year

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.399
<v Speaker 2>for Speed. I just feel like for Kepka, now you're

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 2>going a couple of years without a major. It's like

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 2>all right, now, it's not. This hasn't been as easy,

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 2>and it's harder to win majors than I thought it

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:41.880
<v Speaker 2>would be by the way I got. I gotta bring up.

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I gotta give a shout out to Joel Clatt, so

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 2>you'll appreciate this, because you're a weirdo and your mind

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:50.800
<v Speaker 2>works in mysterious ways as well. But I called Joel

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Clatt yesterday because I had a Ricky Williams ron Daine

0:46:55.960 --> 0:47:00.120
<v Speaker 2>thing I wanted to ask him about. And we got

0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:03.720
<v Speaker 2>into majors and he made an unbelievable point about Tiger

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 2>and majors, and so I want to give Clap the credit.

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:09.880
<v Speaker 2>He said that when you leave events, when you leave

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 2>a sporting event as an athlete, you leave with experience

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:16.840
<v Speaker 2>or scar tissue, right, and you either had the experience

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 2>of being there and you take that away, or you

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 2>leave a scar tissue. And for Kepka, he never had

0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:26.359
<v Speaker 2>scar tissue. Now he has it. He said, Tiger never

0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 2>allowed himself major championship scar tissue. He never left major

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:32.360
<v Speaker 2>as a loser. You know, every time he was in

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:33.320
<v Speaker 2>the Honey won him.

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:36.720
<v Speaker 1>All the scar tissue came after he lost to Yang.

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:42.440
<v Speaker 2>To why Yang everything right, And so for most of

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:45.319
<v Speaker 2>his career he never had He never knew what it

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 2>felt like to lose a major championship. Now he never

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 2>He would not win every one of them, but he

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:52.000
<v Speaker 2>was either in the hunter, he wasn't right. And I

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 2>just thought it was such a great point because you

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:56.240
<v Speaker 2>see all these young players Speed and Justin Thomas and Rory,

0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:57.840
<v Speaker 2>for goodness sake, says all the scar tissue in the

0:47:57.840 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 2>world at majors, and now you're seeing it with Kepka,

0:47:59.920 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 2>and Dustin's had it, you know, in spades kind of

0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 2>earlier in his career. But Kepka now knows what it's

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:07.240
<v Speaker 2>like to be in the hunt and lose a major.

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:10.440
<v Speaker 2>That was something he never really experienced earlier in his career.

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 2>So for Kepka to go out there and win one

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:15.800
<v Speaker 2>now would prove that he's able to kind of swallow

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:19.640
<v Speaker 2>the bad and push it away on a Sunday. And

0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:22.800
<v Speaker 2>so it still it just reminds you of how impressive

0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Tiger Woods that he went what twenty years where he

0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:27.840
<v Speaker 2>never if he was in the Honey won. You know,

0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 2>that's that's such an unbelievable thing to carry that no

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:34.880
<v Speaker 2>other pro golfer has the ability to carry around. You know.

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:37.960
<v Speaker 1>A sneaky answer to that question is DJ You know,

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:42.319
<v Speaker 1>at the end of last year, early the first three

0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 1>weeks of this year, it was like, God, this guy's

0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the best player of the world that sat even close.

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:50.399
<v Speaker 1>At this point, I don't feel that way at all.

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Is he a top ten player like I'd say now

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:54.319
<v Speaker 2>or you argue he's not? Right?

0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you know the sneaky thing about it, he

0:48:57.520 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 1>wins and open all of a sudden, he's I almost

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:04.840
<v Speaker 1>would put him in like best chance at the career

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Grand Slam of any active player if he wins an open,

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:11.320
<v Speaker 1>because then it's like, oh, all this guy needs is

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:14.280
<v Speaker 1>a PGA, Like that's right, that's the major. He should

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:18.440
<v Speaker 1>have like four of by now, you know, And I

0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 1>think that's like that could be a sneaky answer to

0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:22.680
<v Speaker 1>that question as well. It's like, you know, like this

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:25.719
<v Speaker 1>has kind of been a disastrous twenty twenty one for DJ.

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Like after that Master's win, it's like, well, like, you know,

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 1>could this guy get to four or five majors by

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:34.360
<v Speaker 1>the end of his career? Six majors? Like it doesn't

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:36.399
<v Speaker 1>It didn't seem like he was slowing down at all.

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:39.560
<v Speaker 1>And then he wins in Saudi Arabia and maybe maybe

0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:42.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a curse of the you know, the the prince

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 1>over there or something.

0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Anytime somebody wins and goes about four months without winning,

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I think you call it a curse. So we're just

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen. Every tournament's gonna have a curse.

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:56.400
<v Speaker 1>It's uh, there's you know, might be more to it

0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:59.239
<v Speaker 1>than just the poor play. You know, could be the

0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:03.719
<v Speaker 1>new boat though. So hey, Shane, are you going over

0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the Open or are we going to see you over there?

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:10.040
<v Speaker 2>I still am not one hundred percent. I think I'm

0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 2>doing a lot of stuff from here for the Open,

0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:15.439
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not sure. I uh, you know, I I'm

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 2>really excited about this. I'm gonna call some of the

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Olympics golf in Connecticut, so I'm kind of gearing up

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 2>for that and getting ready and going through kind of

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:26.480
<v Speaker 2>the notes and stuff like that. I'm gonna be there

0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 2>doing that, which I'm really fired up about. So I'm

0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 2>not one hundred.

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Percent Rory Sabatini's inn I had.

0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:35.279
<v Speaker 2>I saw that. I heard it. I was excited about it,

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:38.800
<v Speaker 2>but uh, like, could I do that? Andy? Could I

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 2>just I think.

0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:42.960
<v Speaker 1>You have to be a certain rank in the world rankings,

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:46.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like I think that's the big barrier, where

0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 1>like it can't feel like, you know, there's that like

0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:51.239
<v Speaker 1>open quality. It would be cool if the Olympics had

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 1>an open qualifying aspect too, because that would be really

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:56.919
<v Speaker 1>badass if there was, like, you know, two, say there's

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 1>four spots for every team, two of them go to

0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 1>open qualifiers on every team and you get like seventeen

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:06.879
<v Speaker 1>year old kids like beating out the pros to get

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:07.800
<v Speaker 1>a snag a spot.

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:11.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm with it. I love that all the four Americans

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 2>in the Olympics are all young. I mean, I know

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:16.200
<v Speaker 2>we kind of have bagged on Ricky with the tattoo

0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:18.959
<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff. But Ricky Fowler, I would say,

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 2>did as much for Olympic golf as anybody. I mean,

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:24.799
<v Speaker 2>he talked it up, he loved the experience. He was

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:30.080
<v Speaker 2>visible right as a golf Olympian and twenty sixteen, and

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:32.399
<v Speaker 2>he was young, and he was very young at the time.

0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:34.520
<v Speaker 2>I think he was twenty seven or twenty eight. All

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:37.160
<v Speaker 2>four of the American guys going over are under the

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:40.239
<v Speaker 2>age of twenty eight. I think that's really important. I mean,

0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I think when you're forty, maybe you don't maybe you're

0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:45.800
<v Speaker 2>not as interested in doing this. But if you're twenty six,

0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 2>why wouldn't you go over there and be an Olympian.

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:51.160
<v Speaker 2>So I love that the four young Americans are all

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 2>going to go over there and do this. I'm fired

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:54.719
<v Speaker 2>up for the Olympics because I think it's going to

0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:57.000
<v Speaker 2>be very, very cool, and it's a reminder each and

0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:59.359
<v Speaker 2>every year that it's a lot bigger than just one sport.

0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:01.160
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot bigger and just golf, right, I mean

0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:05.120
<v Speaker 2>you you said it with the LPGA players and and

0:52:05.200 --> 0:52:07.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of the l E t and and and you know,

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 2>any any golfer in this global game, especially a female golfer.

0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 2>It's as big a win as you can have, It's

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:17.400
<v Speaker 2>as big a tournament as you can compete in, and

0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:20.840
<v Speaker 2>so I'm kind of pumped. I'm I'm I'm just as pumped,

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:23.120
<v Speaker 2>if not more, to call the women's side of things

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:24.719
<v Speaker 2>that I am the men's side, because I just feel

0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:27.280
<v Speaker 2>like it's going to be such an enormous event.

0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that's just like everybody has been so shortsighted,

0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:36.320
<v Speaker 1>especially in men's golf, about the Olympics and the value

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:39.799
<v Speaker 1>of being an Olympic gold medalist. Like they look at

0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:42.879
<v Speaker 1>the FedEx Cup and they see, oh, you know, it's

0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:47.040
<v Speaker 1>it's all this money, and it's like, guys, you're missing

0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the long term point, you know, like the golf might

0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:54.319
<v Speaker 1>become like a big Olympic sport. Who knows, like it's

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:57.120
<v Speaker 1>not off to the best start because of like, you know,

0:52:57.560 --> 0:52:59.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of it I think has

0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to do with like the schedule makers of golf has

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:05.399
<v Speaker 1>kind of screwed it. But like in twenty years, being

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 1>an Olympic gold medalist is probably going to carry way

0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:11.880
<v Speaker 1>more weight than being, you know, finishing eighth in the

0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:15.440
<v Speaker 1>fed X Cup in terms of your ability to generate

0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:18.360
<v Speaker 1>money on a random day of the week for an.

0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Appearance if I asked you, and again, this is no

0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:23.560
<v Speaker 2>knock to the FedEx Cup. I think the FedEx Cup

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 2>has actually been an enormous benefit to the PGA Tour

0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:28.960
<v Speaker 2>because it gives the players something to look forward to

0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:30.239
<v Speaker 2>at the end, or at least try to play for

0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:32.359
<v Speaker 2>at the end. But if I ask you to name

0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I mean, you know as much about

0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:35.759
<v Speaker 2>golf as anybody. If I asked you to name the

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:39.160
<v Speaker 2>last five FedEx Cup winners, I'm not sure I think

0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:40.839
<v Speaker 2>you could get it, but I think it probably takes

0:53:40.840 --> 0:53:42.719
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of time and you might mix up

0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:44.560
<v Speaker 2>a couple. But if I asked you to name the

0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:48.440
<v Speaker 2>six players on the podiums at the twenty sixteen Olympics,

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:51.640
<v Speaker 2>you'd get all six right away. And that again, that's

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:52.920
<v Speaker 2>the point is that's.

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:56.319
<v Speaker 1>A great point because it's Rose, Stentson and Coocher and

0:53:56.360 --> 0:54:00.360
<v Speaker 1>then it was mb Park shenschen Fang and who finished third.

0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:04.200
<v Speaker 1>That's the one I lady Lydia, Okay, So yeah, I mean,

0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 1>like easy.

0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Rattle them off in and on and on. The FedEx Cup. Again,

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:11.440
<v Speaker 2>it's like, that's great and I do think the FedEx

0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Cup is exciting. I think that like as a person

0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 2>that watches a lot of golf, giving me something at

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:18.359
<v Speaker 2>the end of the year that you get the best

0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 2>players playing for and you can tell it matters to them.

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Maybe the money doesn't matter to you and I, but

0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:25.719
<v Speaker 2>it definitely matters them because you see players struggle and

0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:29.680
<v Speaker 2>even choke on that Saturday and Sunday at the Tour Championship.

0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:32.759
<v Speaker 2>But I just feel like in twenty years from now,

0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 2>let's say Justin Thomas wins a gold medal this year, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and he'll have that forever over a Speek who is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be thirty thirty three next time the Olympics are

0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:48.799
<v Speaker 2>a round and men's golf, and you look at a

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<v Speaker 2>at a Ricky who will be thirty six or thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seven if he wants to qualify again JT if he

0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:55.719
<v Speaker 2>wins a gold medal, will always have that. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is like Carmelo's the Olympia basketball player, right, That's

0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:03.960
<v Speaker 2>the Carmelo thing. And so I don't know I'm gonna

0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:06.040
<v Speaker 2>write a big thing on Rory. I think I'm gonna

0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:08.360
<v Speaker 2>write something for golf channel dot com about Rory and

0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:12.040
<v Speaker 2>the Olympics as we get closer to it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel like it will, Like to your point, I

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<v Speaker 2>think at twenty or twenty five years from now, we

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<v Speaker 2>will We're already talking about the importance of the Olympic

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<v Speaker 2>medal in women's golf. I think it will get over

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<v Speaker 2>to the men's side at some point once we have

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<v Speaker 2>more Olympia Olympians in our sport.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're just they're being shortsighted about it, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like they're looking at money today and not realizing the

0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:39.480
<v Speaker 1>potential money tomorrow for the Olympic gold medal.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if a DECI wins the gold medal and

0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:45.560
<v Speaker 2>he has a green jacket and a gold medal, it

0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:48.000
<v Speaker 2>will go down globally. Is one of the great golf

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<v Speaker 2>seasons that we can remember it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it would be. It would be. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>when Trevino won Sportsman of the Year, Like that's the

0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:58.239
<v Speaker 1>type of story that Hideki having the green jacket and

0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:02.239
<v Speaker 1>the gold medal. It can can with almost any story

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<v Speaker 1>in sports.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. I'm excited for it. I think it's gonna

0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:08.239
<v Speaker 2>be great. I'm pumped to see the golf course and

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I love that there's a lot I love that there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of guys doing it, at least more than

0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:14.799
<v Speaker 2>there were in twenty sixteen, willing to see what this

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<v Speaker 2>is all about, because I think if you go see

0:56:16.760 --> 0:56:18.640
<v Speaker 2>it and see what it's about, you're gonna enjoy it

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<v Speaker 2>and want to be a part of it again.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Shane, everybody can find you on the Golf

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Channel almost every day, Golf Today co host and then

0:56:26.680 --> 0:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>obviously with your Get a Grip podcast with Max Homa.

0:56:30.320 --> 0:56:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Anybody that doesn't listen to that, that listens to this,

0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I recommend that highly. It's an unbelievable podcast. And Shane,

0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:42.440
<v Speaker 1>do do is you know, relationship in many hours recording

0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:45.160
<v Speaker 1>with Max gets more out of its active tour pro

0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:48.400
<v Speaker 1>than anybody in the world gets out of you know,

0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:50.360
<v Speaker 1>almost any active athlete.

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, I appreciate that. I love you. You're one of my

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:56.719
<v Speaker 2>favorites in the world. Thanks for having me on, Thank

0:56:56.760 --> 0:56:58.400
<v Speaker 2>you all for listening. Hope you guys are having a

0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:01.560
<v Speaker 2>great week. And yeah, anytime you need me, just let

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:10.160
<v Speaker 2>me know, all right, Thanks Shane.

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