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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Burrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daney, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck coming soon to Ohio on ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bow Bishop and Nathan Zigura. Alright,

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Speaker 1: let's do alive on a Tuesday to show the program

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Speaker 1: merely bow in the Great Sea. The sun is out,

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Speaker 1: my friend, it's sun kissed here on a Tuesday. It's

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Speaker 1: great to see the sun on a Tuesday. It is

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Speaker 1: a beautiful things. We get ready for a little Saturday

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Speaker 1: football this weekend, uh at First Energy Stadium, which I

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Speaker 1: don't believe will be looking like is it not? What

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Speaker 1: are we looking at it? Then? Look, he's got a

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Speaker 1: hand up already. It said thirty two and gusty, what

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Speaker 1: can you tell us? Give it more more entertaining to

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Speaker 1: me than anything else. Is you adjusting your headphones? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And Zigura reaches down to adjust his right after you do.

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Speaker 1: But he's doing your knob, not his now. The second

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Speaker 1: one's mine, yes, yeah, first one you touched his first

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Speaker 1: You did it yesterday too, and trying to get touched

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Speaker 1: my knob anytime he wants. Thanks. You're safe. Safe Saturday.

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Speaker 1: There's no precipitation. Let's just go there. You know, we

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Speaker 1: keep waiting it's gonna be cold. It's interesting, like as

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Speaker 1: I've looked at seven days really going back, I think

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Speaker 1: fellas for about a month. Every time I would look

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Speaker 1: then it'll be and it's just keeps getting pushed. I

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Speaker 1: know it's inevitable it's coming, but we haven't had that yet.

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Speaker 1: We're here in the middle of December. Today is gorgeous out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's cooler, but it's sunny. I mean, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: What it stinks because it looks like we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a little snow at the end of this week and

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Speaker 1: then certainly snow leading up to Christmas. And now it

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Speaker 1: looks like that's all gone. It looks like, oh no,

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Speaker 1: the forecast for next it looks like we have snow

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Speaker 1: here Friday Saturday. We could have a little bit of

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Speaker 1: snow here at the c m C C c m C.

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Speaker 1: But let me see, yeah, yeah you could. You could

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Speaker 1: your twenties headed into the holiday, so that Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 1: I'd be fun Christmas Eve against the Saints. Right now

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Speaker 1: is calling for a high of nineteen? Now where will

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Speaker 1: that game be played? Here? Hopefully in a dome, not

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Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Yeah, I don't know. The more you

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Speaker 1: watch of I mean, I was thinking about you saw

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Speaker 1: the Bill signed Beasley back. They had to get not

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Speaker 1: able to get underneath. But the more you watch them,

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Speaker 1: you think about us with Watson, Like if you have

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Speaker 1: one of these football Ferrari's at quarterback and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have them for a decade. Environment, control the climate, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you want a good environment. Very good. Um, it's so

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Speaker 1: you guys remind and give me reminds on the rundown

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Speaker 1: today that today is like a first Friday, even though

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Speaker 1: first Friday. So they'll have a walk through later today.

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Speaker 1: When is coach addressing the media today at good for

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Speaker 1: their walkthrough for us? Fantastic and then we're on with

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Speaker 1: the week with that Saturday four o'clock. How much has

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Speaker 1: made it is this? You move up a day. I

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Speaker 1: think I'm surprised thothough it's not like I would have

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Speaker 1: thought that you would have had Monday off, Yeah, Tuesday

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Speaker 1: Tuesday is Wednesday will be the case. But because you're

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Speaker 1: We have work to do. Yeah, we are not an

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Speaker 1: Right when do we when do we know? The game

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Speaker 1: It's funny like normally I look I look ahead to

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Speaker 1: you guys like my rundown. I watched for a half

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Speaker 1: or until the until they know that the game is

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Speaker 1: going to half, and then I watched Yellowstone last night

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I mean that Bill Simmons was great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was phenomenal. Burrow was not as good as I.

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Speaker 1: likes his ambition he's focused. He's focused right there, Simmons

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Speaker 1: I would have loved to if he hear Manning answer that,

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Speaker 1: that would have been something of great value. They are not.

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Speaker 1: of it. It's like they don't want they are the show,

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Speaker 1: but in terms of real substitutive conversation you get don't

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Speaker 1: make news about something that they feel they've gotten somebody

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Speaker 1: The slot receiver is an air raid concept. Yeah, especially

426
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Speaker 1: that kind of slot receiver. And it was you have

427
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Speaker 1: to give Belichick credit right for seeing it, seeing it,

428
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Speaker 1: taking it, and you get Welker, you get Julian Edelman,

429
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Speaker 1: you get Danny Amondola, all working in that offense. It is. Yeah,

430
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Speaker 1: it's it's a incredible the difference in the way that

431
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: we think about just the the league in general. Right,

432
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: the slot receiver being so important, the slot corner getting

433
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Speaker 1: paid a lot of money because now you have to

434
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Speaker 1: deal with these slot receivers. It's guys who can operate

435
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Speaker 1: in space and just a the notion of space as

436
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: opposed to three yards and a cloud of dust. Now

437
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 1: it's space getting guys athletes making people miss yards after

438
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,719
Speaker 1: the catch, all of those things. Yeah, totally change its

439
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: short passes becoming long gains passes, his runs passes run

440
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 1: which is and it's a variation of the West Coast,

441
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Speaker 1: right be those are a long and offs in the

442
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: West Coast and some of the same principles, but now

443
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: just doing it widening the field, making them defend everywhere.

444
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Speaker 1: He was the best. Um It's so funny. It's been

445
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 1: a joy watching the clips go around. I'm guessing he's

446
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: smiling about it because this stuff going around to something.

447
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: The marriage one is unbelievable. The advice of the kid

448
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: on marriage, the mascot one is unbelievable. There's so many

449
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: good ones. Even this past season. He's walking down the sideline,

450
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: folding up all the chairs so no one can sit

451
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: down and then down. It's total character doing that. Total character. Um.

452
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Speaker 1: All right, lots to get to on the program today.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, we go around the league. One thought

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Speaker 1: on every game you have that to look forward to,

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Speaker 1: which is nice. We're often running here on a Tuesday

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Speaker 1: around the NFL landscape, I guess Odell Beckham's junior's knee

463
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Speaker 1: is not right. I guess I think that's probably a lock.

464
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Speaker 1: Now as you see the Cowboys signing veteran free agent

465
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Speaker 1: wide receiver t Y Hilton yesterday. He also said did

466
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Speaker 1: odellt he doesn't see the point in playing in the

467
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Speaker 1: regular season. Yeah, I don't. I don't get it. So

468
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Speaker 1: if that's what you so, you're saying, I'm gonna just

469
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Speaker 1: roll out there for you in the postseason and be

470
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Speaker 1: full speed ready to go. Sure, hard to imagine at

471
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Speaker 1: this point. Probably just sit the right, sit this out

472
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Speaker 1: and try and show up next year in camp with

473
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Speaker 1: some sort of health and hope for the best. I mean,

474
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Speaker 1: that's probably the path for him at this point, because

475
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Speaker 1: this was the place, you know, I think he wanted

476
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Speaker 1: to see an l a morning anything else. But then

477
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Speaker 1: they fell off a cliff and so then this was

478
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Speaker 1: clearly the place to go is Dallas. They're the closest.

479
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: They obviously needed more help at receiver. But here's the

480
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: thing to me, Okay, this is what I and and

481
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: maybe he wasn't interested. Yeah, t Y Hilton could have

482
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,479
Speaker 1: helped this team. He knew biber set, we knew Anthony

483
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Speaker 1: Schwartz wasn't the answer coming out of training camp. T

484
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Speaker 1: Y Hilton could have helped us in those early games

485
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Speaker 1: with Donovan and with Amari Cooper, and we never got

486
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Speaker 1: him here. No, and we'll see, we'll see if you

487
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: can't do anything with Coss anything left. But he made

488
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Speaker 1: some plays last year. It's you know, we talked about

489
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Speaker 1: this a little bit yesterday with you brought up the

490
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Speaker 1: Will Fuller. I mean it was something that was as

491
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Speaker 1: we were sitting in camp watching saying, it feels like

492
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Speaker 1: another guy is here that is needed here. And we've

493
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Speaker 1: had we had Depot in here midway through the season,

494
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Speaker 1: We've had a b in here and asked about are

495
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Speaker 1: you confident where you are at receiver? And the answer

496
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Speaker 1: was yes, yes, yes. Well it didn't materialize too that way.

497
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Speaker 1: And I think I thought Bell would be able to

498
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Speaker 1: give you more, but he's he's just not given you.

499
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Speaker 1: He's not one who's can be countered. Not that he

500
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: mean he's been injured in all these things, but he's

501
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: just not dynamic enough for what you need. What you

502
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: needed was someone who could run a nine route. Man.

503
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: Do you need somebody who can go Now, he made

504
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Speaker 1: a lot of big plays, and you watch his college tape,

505
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Speaker 1: he made a lot of big plays against guys that

506
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Speaker 1: are playing in the NFL. He hasn't run those routes here.

507
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: I haven't really seen him run any vertical routes so

508
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: far this season, so you don't know what that has

509
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,959
Speaker 1: to do with it. But the question, not question, The

510
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: fact remains this team has needed a vertical threat to

511
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Speaker 1: create space for them. And look, we've been a explosive,

512
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: big play offense because of our play action shot play

513
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: game and because of our ability to hit big plays

514
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: on the ground. But there's no doubt that we wouldn't

515
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Speaker 1: be better with a speedy receiver who was opening things

516
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Speaker 1: up for everybody, and we just never got that. Now,

517
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Speaker 1: we weren't gonna pay ten million dollars year. I mentioned

518
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Speaker 1: Marquis Valdo scaling. He doesn't give them ten million dollars

519
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Speaker 1: a year worth in Kansas City, but in terms of numbers,

520
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Speaker 1: but maybe what he does they consider to be that valuable.

521
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Speaker 1: We didn't have the money to do something like that.

522
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Speaker 1: But you would have thought that once it was a

523
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Speaker 1: parent and I have to think that by the conclusion

524
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Speaker 1: of preseason it had to be apparent. Despite everybody's hope

525
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Speaker 1: against hope, you know that Anthony Schwartz was going to

526
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Speaker 1: be the guy. He wasn't. He was fighting the ball

527
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Speaker 1: in camp. Well in the preseason dropped like a pass, right.

528
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: I mean we would, you'd see it in camps. It

529
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Speaker 1: just wasn't natural. Um, So there was something going on there.

530
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Speaker 1: Um you know, a long long time ago. So uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean we we mentioned wild back in the now.

532
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Speaker 1: You can't force a guy to sign um, but we

533
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Speaker 1: mentioned that back in the uh back in camp was

534
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Speaker 1: one of the names we mentioned with Fuller among others.

535
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Speaker 1: So um de Sean Jackson, we mentioned all those guys

536
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Speaker 1: are going to kind of do those things. Sean Jackson,

537
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Speaker 1: you know, he's got the most six yard touchdowns in

538
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Speaker 1: NFL history. Now he's with the Ravens. Will see him.

539
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: He's not playing a ton, but it's making some plays

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Speaker 1: for them. You needed ten routes all you needed. You

541
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: didn't need it. You don't needed a fifteen ten targeted

542
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: game guy, that's you needed ten routes. That's it. I

543
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: mentioned the Cole Beasley coming out of retirement to sign

544
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Speaker 1: with the Bill's practice squad. He'll be elevated. I'm certain.

545
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Speaker 1: In fact, Mike here followed. Now that I see he's

546
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: saying that as well, yeah, they need they don't have

547
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: an intermediate pass game, and he knows the offense. If

548
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: he's in great shape, I would imagine you could come

549
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: in and help them right away to open that up there.

550
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Speaker 1: Wildly and consistent. Gabe Davis has been a disaster to

551
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Speaker 1: trying owen this year in fantasy. It's brutal, brutal. What

552
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: do you do? Three catches, one sixty and then the

553
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: next time nothing like goes a whole game. Has like

554
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Speaker 1: four games that have accounted for all of his Fantasy points.

555
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: He said, four monster and that's that. The hard part

556
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: is he like, you don't want to miss out on

557
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: the Monster game, But the rest of the time, it's

558
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: all pretty garbage. Can't do it? Um, did you see this?

559
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: Did you see um the rookie linebacker for the Niners

560
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: who picked off Brady? Who got who Brady then signed

561
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: his ball? Yeah that's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty high quality. Listen,

562
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: it's a nice job. You see that when he's out there.

563
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: That that's what it, you know, for people, that's what

564
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: they the reverence for him. He is, you know, he

565
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: is the goat. He's the greatest of all time. And

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Speaker 1: it's cool that He's comfortable doing that and approachable enough

567
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: that people think that they can even approach him with,

568
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: which leads you to believe that his reputation is pretty

569
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: sterling around the league. No doubt that people love him.

570
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: And the fact that you would have the cohonists to

571
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: go walk up to him and say, hey, can you

572
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Speaker 1: sign this ball I picked off from you? That's pretty wild.

573
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean you talk like a guy's on our team

574
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: here that week, and we're like, if you pick him,

575
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: like you're gonna he's gonna have like a shrine to it,

576
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: like if anybody sacked him, they were going to make

577
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: a whole thing to it. You know. Yeah, it is

578
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Speaker 1: um Deebo. Samuel expected back during the regular season after

579
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Speaker 1: suffering m c l and ankle sprains during Sunday's win

580
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Speaker 1: over the butter Years. They're trying to rush from back.

581
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Speaker 1: They're gonna get him hurt of good Newe Like, Dad,

582
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: how about the fact that you're dad and Jerry Rice

583
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: are on the same page. I don't know if you

584
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: saw that that he doesn't like the dives up the middle. Yeah,

585
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: he would stopped running it up the middle. Oh, he

586
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: sent it to you. He's on it. He's worried about

587
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: He's got Instagram, He's all over the place. My dad

588
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: gets all of it. He gets information from a variety

589
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: of sources, but always reputable. He yeah, he It's like

590
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: he can't even appreciate Kyle at all. It's always complaints

591
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: about Colm, Like, what are you talking about? I think

592
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: you guys just rolled the bucks with brock Purty. Yeah.

593
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: I think he's the like one true offensive genius in

594
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: this league. I really do. It'll be interesting to see

595
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: what happens with because and mcveigh's the genius. And yes,

596
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: they won a super Bowl, but his teams always have

597
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: a tougher time the last six seven games of a season.

598
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: Kingsbury's teams always second half, not even close, but every

599
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: single year. Yeah, and he's never had he's never had

600
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Speaker 1: the talent that mcveigh's had offensively in l A. They're

601
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: not bad, they are now, but not the quarterback now,

602
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: but years past, I mean they're not. He's not. It's

603
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: not Woods and Cup and I mean Gurley for crying

604
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: out loud, I mean and then into Stafford like that

605
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: was not right. Pete Gurley was pretty ridiculous, Like it

606
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: it was. They never had those type of guys, you know,

607
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: So I think I think that's the thing that always

608
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: makes me look at Kyle and just go cheez. It's

609
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable. It almost doesn't matter who this guy is.

610
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: Speaking of the forty Niners, brock Purtty is day to

611
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: day with an oblique ribs injury. Who would it be

612
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: if he's not? Who else is on the roster? Josh Johnson?

613
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: There there was a guy with the j. J was

614
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: the one thing I could remember. They signed him, right,

615
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson? Yeah, last week a million years. Um, Hey,

616
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Speaker 1: did you guys also see the NBA renaming all their awards?

617
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: What's the what's the reason for this? I don't know.

618
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: You're still gonna be irrelevant. I just don't understand, Like,

619
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Speaker 1: what do you mean. They're like, it's the Michael Jordan's

620
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: m VP Award now like it? Yeah, so they renamed

621
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Speaker 1: them all. So it's like the Jordan Trophy, Like, are

622
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: they redesigning it to look like Jordan? Is it gonna

623
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: be the same trophy? I would put a jump in

624
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: on it. I'm sure he'd be thrilled about that. The

625
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Speaker 1: Kimo La Juan Defensive Player of the Year, the wilch Right,

626
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: the Wilt Chamberlain Trophy for Rookie of the Year, the

627
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Speaker 1: John Halcheck Trophy for the six Man of the Year,

628
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: the George Mike And Trophy for the most Improved Player.

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Speaker 1: Number one. I feel like player of the Year, if

630
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Speaker 1: you're gonna do anything, should be mood Tumbo waving a

631
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Speaker 1: finger at you. Yeah, Kim Elijah on that's that's not so.

632
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: They are redoing the MVP award, But this doesn't. Does

633
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Speaker 1: that look like Jordan's? It looks like Kareem Is it

634
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Speaker 1: supposed to be like a French doing this the beginning

635
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Speaker 1: of a skyhook? Yeah, it really probably should have been

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Speaker 1: Kareemi has the most m vps. H Yeah, I mean

637
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: forever it was like that guy doing the Runner was

638
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: kind of the deal. So the logo doesn't get an award. Huh,

639
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Speaker 1: logo does not. Yeah, that's pretty good. That's good. The

640
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: logo is good. And I see people say we gotta change.

641
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: Now leave the logo alone. The logo is great, like

642
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: for Kobe or Michael or whatever. And even Jerry West said, look,

643
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, do it for Michael or Kobe and he's

644
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: now it's the logos. The logo it's known. I mean,

645
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Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't have the best performance ever on

646
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: on that show. It depends on your perspective. He was

647
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: pretty dogged in his pursuit after they won the championship. Yeah,

648
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: that was a pretty good performance. It seemed like phenomenal.

649
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: They're yeah, that was pretty good. Yeah, Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Coming up next, what we learned from

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Speaker 1: one thought on every game? Hello, give what's up? Week fourteen?

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Speaker 1: You have the National Football League putt that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry, folks, still four more weeks to the regular season.

665
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: It's a long haul, man, It is a haul. It's

666
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: a long haul. And when you're you know, not technically,

667
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: but virtually out of it, it's a slog man. A

668
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: lot to watch here, a lot to take in over

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00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: the next few weeks. Oh yeah, but I mean, imagine

670
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: if you didn't have the Watson intrigue. How tough this.

671
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you guys have lived through that,

672
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: but I mean that's a tough spot, man, when you're

673
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: just playing out the string in the National Football League

674
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: through the holidays. All right, let's kick things off, uh,

675
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football, the Los Angeles Chargers taking down the

676
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins seventeen. Maybe it wasn't watched, but a lot

677
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: at steak in this matchup. The Chargers go to seven

678
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: and six and the Dolphins dropped to eight and five,

679
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: two game losing streak out on the West Coast. Bishop

680
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: one thought from you, I think the one thought is

681
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: is um, Mike McDaniel and his offensive genius was something

682
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: that was that I still think is very real and

683
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: tangible and long term. But we see this every year

684
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: that there is a start to figure out thing that

685
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: happens once people get a little tape on you, and

686
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: I think it's happening right now a little bit to him.

687
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: I don't think it's coincidence that it's uh. Certainly it

688
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: started with the forty Niners who would know him very

689
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: very well, and the way that they played those two

690
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: receivers and each other. The Chargers trying to do a

691
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: similar thing. So um, I think that this is a

692
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: real critical time for the Dolphins and the next time out,

693
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure who they play, but they really

694
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: need to get to a back in rhythm with his

695
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: receivers because they've been knocked off track the last two weeks.

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00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: What would the Chargers record be if Bosa was healthy,

697
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: if Slater was healthy, if their corners were healthy, if

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00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: what would they see? That's why I don't know what

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00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: would their record be. I feel like they would They're

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00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: gonna be ten and seven no matter what. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you want to play them in the playoffs. No,

702
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: I saw it yesterday right now there Slade to play

703
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: Kansas City Like, I wouldn't want to deal with that.

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00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 1: If I'm Kansas City and I'm the two seed, no,

705
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: not at all. Just know it's but that they don't

706
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: equal to some of their parts. Nope, which is weird,

707
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Speaker 1: But they haven't had their most of their that's true,

708
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: their most valuable parts for a lot of this season,

709
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: which is a wild thing. But that's how his Herbert's

710
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: just he is that good. I think that if he were,

711
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: if his team was doing you know, they didn't make

712
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year. I think people forget that. And

713
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: he played great in that game, but they didn't make

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00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year. I think that is part of

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Speaker 1: the reason why people have not really paid as much

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00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: attention to him as making him as superstar like that.

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00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: You know, Alan, you have the crazy fans. They go

718
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: on a nice run in the playoffs. They got to

719
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs, and then I think they have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity for him to do some things. The forty

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00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: Niners take down the Tampa Bay Buccaneers seven, San Francisco

722
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: making that playoff push with the third string quarterback. They

723
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: go to nine and four. Tampa Bay just can't pull

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Speaker 1: away here in the NFC South. They are six and seven.

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Speaker 1: As a girl, one thought from you on this one

726
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: Black Purty incredible first quarterback, making their first NFL start

727
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: to ever beat Tom Brady. He was six and oh

728
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: in such games prior to that. Uh, you feel bad

729
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: about Deebo, but this Niners defense is unbelievable. I said, right.

730
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: They haven't given up more than seventeen in six straight games.

731
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: And the Bucks offense looks atrocious. Yeah, it's It's clearly

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00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: done for the Bucks in terms of anything. I don't

733
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: even know if they win the division, Carolina might get them. Um,

734
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: they're that bad. But I do think like the way

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00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: that Brady looks now is it feels there's no momentum

736
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: for him to retire, right, and so if he plays

737
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: next year, it clearly won't be there. So where is

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00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: it and what does it look like? He'd Simmons talking

739
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: about going back to New England is a gift to Craft. Um,

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00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: I have no clue, but I mean I didn't think

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00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: you'd go to Tampa Bay when he went there, So

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00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, but if you just wonder what it

743
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: can look like, that was stunning. You mentioned that with

744
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Speaker 1: cousin sal To push back on that. As much as

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00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: I thought they would have either, I don't think they're

746
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: in the news in the business of to your point earlier,

747
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: making news on anything. They just want to quickly get

748
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: back to jokes. Uh up next. Somehow, the Carolina Panthers

749
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: have played themselves back into the playoff hunt. They take

750
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: down Seattle. Seahawks drop to seven and six, and I

751
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: feel like their season is quickly slipping away. Carolina five

752
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: and eight still can make the playoffs and win their division,

753
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: and they're one in five away from home. Bishop one thought,

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00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: this is the only game this on this thing that

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00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: I did not see, see a single solitary second of

756
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: not one second of it. None. What I what I

757
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: can what I think you can say though, and Seattle

758
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: is probably the latest example of this is that these

759
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: teams that had a little bit of momentum early are

760
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: reverting to who they are late. Um, that's an inexplicable

761
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: loss for them if they're to make the postseason. They've

762
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: lost three or four. They lost to the Bucks at home,

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00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: the Raiders at home, beat the Rams, and then lost

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00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: to the Panthers at home. So it's three out of

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00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: four at home, and then they get the forty niners

766
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: on a short week on Thursday. That thing is done cooked.

767
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: The Panthers are a good defense. Steve Wilkes is doing

768
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: a great job, and you wonder does he get the

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00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: job afterwards or is it going to be kind of

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00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: what happened with the Raiders last year where Besaccia leads

771
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: them to the playoffs and then there's ushered right out

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00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: out of town because is it a sexy higher proba.

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Speaker 1: Probably not, but obviously he is good and their defense

774
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: is what's carrying the team defense running and Sam Donald

775
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: not so bad. Sam Donald up next from the a

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Speaker 1: f C Western Week four team Kansas City continues to

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Speaker 1: strengthen their hold on the division. In their question for

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00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: that number one seed, they take down Denver, a little

779
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: tougher for the Kansas City Chiefs. Chiefs improved to ten

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Speaker 1: and three Denver three and tens. A girl one thought

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00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have a problem of taking their foot off

782
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: the gas. Yep, it has happened countless times throughout the

783
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: last few seasons. Just go ahead and smoke somebody like

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00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: it's okay, you beat him sixty and nothing. You beat

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00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: him sixty nothing. But don't let them get back in

786
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: because this game got a little zip, got a little

787
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: bit testy. Yet twenty seven nothing They had this one

788
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: Mahomes making ridiculous plays, and it feels like they're not

789
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: even fully clicking on offense too. There are a lot

790
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: of plays that were just missed. They are very good

791
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: and very scary. How about the reality of being like

792
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: a Broncos fan and you've had to deal with all this.

793
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: Russell Wilton dread for the whole season, and then finally

794
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: in week fourteen you see a glimpse of like old

795
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: Russ he was really good in this game. Then he

796
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: goes down with a concussion, so he doesn't even get

797
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: a finish the damn thing out. Like That's how brutal

798
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: that season has been for them. My Homes the three

799
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: picks in this game from the NFC East, Philly clinches

800
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: a playoff spot. They down the New York Football Giants

801
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: two Eagles now twelve and one, Giants seven five and one.

802
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: And I keep saying it every week, but I still

803
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: think there's a very good chance that neither team from

804
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: New York makes the playoffs. Bishop, Yeah, I I was

805
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: waiting see on Philly. UM. Never really a hater, but

806
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: I just you just want to see it, um, and

807
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: we're not gonna get a chance. They I think they

808
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: play the Bears this week, so they just their schedule

809
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: is is just really really easy. But in this league,

810
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: when you slump people weekend in week out, that matters. Um.

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00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: They used to be a phrase. You know, good teams win,

812
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: Great teams cover like these do. Cover big Ley feels

813
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: like every week, every time I see a seven with Philly,

814
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: throw it, throw the seven because they just they're humming,

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00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: right people. Yeah, Giants are terrible. By the way, Jalen

816
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: Hurts is a four s A about this tenth rushing

817
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: touchdown of the season, joining Cam Newton, is the only

818
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in NFL history with ten or more rushing touchdowns

819
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: in two or more seasons. He's the first ever to

820
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: do it in back to back seasons. Oh Andy can

821
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: throw it to a J. Brown who's over a thousand yards.

822
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: Looks like DeVonta Smith is gonna go over a thousand

823
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: yards and they're gonna get Goddard back for the playoff run.

824
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: They are a complete football team. The Cowboys meanwhile, in

825
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: the NFC East, keeping pace with the Eagles, although boy

826
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: they did everything they could have tried to lose it.

827
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Speaker 1: The Cowboys knockoff Houston twenty three. Cowboys now ten and three, Houston,

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Speaker 1: one eleven and one girl. One thought, this is why

829
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: you can't take anybody lightly in the NFL. As bad

830
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: as the Texans have been this year, the Cowboys obviously

831
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: tried to sleep lock the through this game and then

832
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: they came in and they woke up and finally were

833
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: able to pull it out and get to win at

834
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: the end, but without a goal line stand. I mean,

835
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: it was not easy for them. But good teams find

836
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: a way, and bad teams also find a way to lose.

837
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: And that that Texans team feels like, unfortunately some of

838
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: the teams that we covered here for a few years

839
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: in the mid two thousand tens that just even when

840
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: they were good and they did everything right, they still

841
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: couldn't pull it out in the end. Yeah, you just wonder,

842
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: like it does feel like this is really Dallas is

843
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: maybe last best chance to win it all right now,

844
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: Like they're in this window here and they've been hit

845
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: by the injury bug in the secondary big um and

846
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: they just feel like they're kind of limping along here,

847
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: Like you one of them. They annihilated the Vikings. If

848
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: you're from their perspective, you wanted them to stack a

849
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: couple of those, and they just don't seem capable of it. No,

850
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: they do not seem capable of it at all. So

851
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: the a f C North we go. When the other

852
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: two teams in our division, the ram Birds down the

853
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: Squealers six team to fourteen, Baltimore continues to find a way.

854
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 1: Their nine and four Squealers dropped to five and eight.

855
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: Bishop One thought, so it can for me. It's both

856
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: of these things. For Baltimore, like they are, they have

857
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: a ton of culture. Uh, they know how to win.

858
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean, just think of the close games they have

859
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: won this year. They beat the Bengals by two, they

860
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: beat us by a field goal, They beat the Bucks

861
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: by five, the Panthers thirteen to three, Broncos by one,

862
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: Steelers by two. Like, they win so many close games,

863
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: even their losses. They lost by four to Miami, they

864
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: lost by three to Buffalo, they lost by four to

865
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: the Giants, one to the Jaguars. Every game's closed, and

866
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: they should have won that jack battle. They should have

867
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: their battle tested. Uh, doesn't matter who the quarterback is.

868
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: The big thing I think though in this game for

869
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: them is they got Dobbin's back and he unlocked offensively

870
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: for them. Like, if they can get Lamar back and

871
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: Dobbins can finish out healthy, that's a dangerous thing. If

872
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: they win that Jack's game, they would have won seven

873
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: in a row. Instead, it's six and less seven. And

874
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: and look at their defense since getting ro Kwan Smith

875
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: in there. Uh, and they get Marcus Williams came back

876
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: this week and got an interception. He's got four picks

877
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: in six games this year. They've given up the last

878
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: few weeks. They've given up thirteen three eight to the

879
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: Jags in a weird one because they were shutting the

880
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: Jags down for the majority of the game, nine fourteen.

881
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: I mean, they are not giving up points. They've given

882
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: up below fifteen points in four of the last five games.

883
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: They're a great defense. They've got, you know, upfront, Klais Campbell.

884
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: You know they've got on the other side, Justin I

885
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: can't think of his name right now, Justin Houston, who's

886
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: had terrorized us. He's having a great season. He's one

887
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: shot at double Digit's got nine sacks on the year.

888
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: Campbell's got five and a half. Campbell's next sack, by

889
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: the way, the one hundredth of his career. They're just

890
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: playing good football defensively because their offense has been dreadful,

891
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: but they're gonna be. They're a little bit of a

892
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: dangerous team because the d is so good. But they

893
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: have not been great necessarily scoring. But since Week nine,

894
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens defense has allowed the fewest rushing yards

895
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: per game, the second fewest points per game, and the

896
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: second few touchdowns since Roe Kwansum has been their fifty

897
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: five yards per game on the ground, just thirteen points

898
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: a game and six total touchdowns allowed. I mean, they

899
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 1: have been phenomenally good. Better. They're good their defense. Their defense,

900
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: where's me? They haven't given up a hundred yard rusher

901
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: all year. Who's got the better defense? Forty Niners or Ravens? Niners? Niners.

902
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: Ravens are good. Good from the follow holds off the

903
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: New York Football Jets. What is going on? There's a

904
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: lot of Nike boxes walking around. All I'm saying, bring

905
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: him to us. I'd like a uh Bills twenty Jets twelve.

906
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: The Bills go to ten and three. They find a

907
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: way in their first game without von Miller is a

908
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: girl one thought. Garrett Wilson is a stud and a

909
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: star in the making. And we are just scratching the surface.

910
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: He passed Keshan Johnson for the most receiving yards by

911
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: a Jets rookie in history through Sunday. He's got games ago.

912
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: I will say this, I've never seen a team love

913
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: one quarterback and hate another quarterback more than they love

914
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: Mike White and they detest Zack Wilson. It's like, is

915
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: he gonna get cut? Is Zach Wilson gonna trying to

916
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: think of one similar where like the players just said no,

917
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: We're just not going to play for this dude. Um yeah, yeah. Uh.

918
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: The the on the other side of that, you see

919
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: why Buffalo did the move for Beasley. They are pretty

920
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: average offensively right now. Allan was asked postgame Sunday and

921
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: he said something the effective Maybe this offense isn't as

922
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: good as we all thought it would be. Um, they

923
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: have trouble in the elements. It's just the reality of it.

924
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: And by the way, from a fantasy standpoint, they just

925
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: absolutely suffocated you with it was Davis. James Cook was

926
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: a happy it was a positive pick up this week.

927
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: A lot of people thought he was finally gonna get going.

928
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: Dalvin's little brother Harry's six yards, didn't use him. Singletary

929
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: did nothing, Allan did nothing. It was it was pretty brutal.

930
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: The crazy thing is, like you wondered, was scheme and

931
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: play calling matter? They boldly being has that impacted that offense?

932
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: He kept saying Dorsey would be the same notes not carry.

933
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: It's not saying the scheme is probably, but when you

934
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: utilize what how you set things up, the rhythm of

935
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: your play calling, UH is different, and clearly they are.

936
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: They are struggling. I mean they're going back in the well.

937
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: It's sorry about that. Beasley back, John Brown back John

938
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: Brown was their leading receiver when they played the for

939
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen in two thousand nineteen. When they came here,

940
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: those are the I think the top two receivers. In fact,

941
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: we're Brown and Beasley. So they're trying to just get

942
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: anything going there. Davis, you wonder he had a foot

943
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: injury that was suffered after that Pittsburgh game and has

944
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: never really kind of been the same sense, And you

945
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: wonder if he's playing through something that is that's limiting

946
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: his effectiveness because he's not been effective all right, real

947
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: quick From the NFC Norris Division, the Detroit Lions. Lions

948
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: thirty four, Vikings Detroit six and seven. Vikings fall to

949
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: ten and threes. A girl one thought the Lions are

950
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 1: for real. Goss playing the best football in his game.

951
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: They've scored twenty five or more points in five straight games.

952
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: They are an elite offense, and they're just getting Williams

953
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: going all of a sudden, they got Williams, a'man Ross

954
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: st Brown, d J. Chark. They should still have t J.

955
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: Hockenson again, one of the most stupefying trades I can

956
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: think of. Crazy traded him to the Minnesota in their division,

957
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: and they have a chance now to go ahead and

958
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: they are in the playoff front Vikings. Justin Jefferson is

959
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: perhaps the greatest talent in the league, right. I mean,

960
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna win. I think the O P

961
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: O I I think that might come through for him.

962
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: But their defense is abysmal. Yeah, I give you a

963
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: lead on that defense. A couple about a month ago

964
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: we said it's just not very good. The Lions lost

965
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: six of their first seven of now on five of

966
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: their last six. That's that's the spot there. And I

967
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: think golf is making them have to seriously consider because

968
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: I don't think any of these quarterbacks are lockstocks. Um.

969
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: I would sit this one out at quarterback. I'd run

970
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: it right back with Goff and it amplify things around him.

971
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: I think he'd win the division that way. I see

972
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: no reason why he couldn't be cousins for the Lions.

973
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: So crazy thing out there. Why doesn't Tom Brady want

974
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: to go to Detroit? You got weapons, You're in a dome.

975
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: Is he better than golf? No? I understand, but at

976
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: some point he's not. It's six years old, and it

977
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: has to happen at some point. Final one from the

978
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: a f C South Jacksonville thirty six, Titans twenty two.

979
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: Don't look now, the Jags just two games out of

980
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: first place in the a f C South. Bishop. I

981
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: think you'll look back on the Urban Meyer higher as

982
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: one of the most egregious mistakes a franchise ever made

983
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: with a young quarterback, and it's it's It pleased me

984
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: to a great deal that Trevor Lawrence got right this

985
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: season because he's right now. I was gonna mind, was

986
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: gonna be like Urban Meyers should be thrown in like

987
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: football coaching prisoned because of what he did that he

988
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: come to smarious crime against this team. Yeah, he is

989
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: good the Titans. It feels like this window is closed

990
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: and it's not going to reopen again. We closed it

991
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: earlier and then they cracked it back open. I was thinking,

992
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: just in general, there are no threat to win a

993
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and they are going to only going forward.

994
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: Their ceiling has already been hit and it's all downhill

995
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: that Really, they really have been in purgatory all these years. Yeah,

996
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: I mean they there was Fool's gold there, number one

997
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: seed for sure. But they would do stuff like that

998
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: and you'd be like, well, maybe there's a path run

999
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: it with Henry, you know, a J. Brown and that done,

1000
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1015
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: told the story of We've got to adjust on the

1016
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: offensive line with Watson right in terms of how they block? Yes,

1017
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: I did. The holding was everyone more than every once

1018
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: in a a while. But when you have the Hof on,

1019
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: you get these Hoff moments. Yeah, like, oh, it's a

1020
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: gold jacket on that one. That one makes sense. Um

1021
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: interestingly enough, probably not by coincidence. Jack Conklin was asked

1022
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: exactly that good job out of our media listening to

1023
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 1: the Hoff when he speaks. Um, so here is Conklin

1024
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: talking about that at availability. It's tough. I mean I

1025
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: had some you know, similar type of thing in Tennessee

1026
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: when I played with Marcus Mariota. Um, it was another

1027
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: similar you know, he's a guy who can was mobile

1028
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: and get moving on the pocket and um, it's definitely

1029
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: a it's a little bit different mindset. You just gotta

1030
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: be aware. I mean it's tough anytime you're sitting on

1031
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: a block and it's hard for an offensive wanting to

1032
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: know when the when the quarterback is leaving the pocket. Um,

1033
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: you know when to let go. It's a lot of

1034
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: a lot of times it's kind of it's kind of

1035
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: on a field thing. It's kind of if you can

1036
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: feel his presence taken off, you've got to know you

1037
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: gotta let go. And uh, you know, it's definitely it's

1038
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: definite adjustment, but it's usually and I think I would

1039
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: say I think usually the referees give you a little

1040
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: bit of a grace period because they do know it's

1041
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: uh if if your hands are inside and you are

1042
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: attempting to let go of the I mean that it's

1043
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: I would say more it's more of the act of

1044
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: pulling him in when you know the quarterbacks out, that's

1045
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: where you usually get flag. So it's definitely something that

1046
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: we're you know we're working on is an offensive line.

1047
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's definitely something in the back from

1048
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: mind that we need to be aware. Hey, if if

1049
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: he takes it out. We gotta he's on his own,

1050
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: we gotta let go. Yeah, Joe even mentioned like that's

1051
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: in his notes, like to read before and then already

1052
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: go out there, right. You have to make sure that

1053
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: you're doing what you need to do and understanding the

1054
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 1: circumstances around, you know, reading the cues of the defense players.

1055
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: Soon as he pulls away from you, gotta let him go.

1056
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: Now to have the defense players might pretend they're doing

1057
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: that and you stop block them and they go get

1058
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: a seck. But that's a little bit of a give

1059
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: and taking. That's one of the changes for the Browns

1060
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: now that we are in this era of having a

1061
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: quarterback who can make a lot of plays and extend

1062
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 1: a lot of plays with his leg. You mentioned this

1063
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: yesterday in the show talking about, you know, in the

1064
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: run game why it hasn't been consistent and that there

1065
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: is a lot of layers for that. And you look

1066
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: at the film. Jake Burns did a great job breaking

1067
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: down some of the misses that are happening in Upfront.

1068
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: One guy misses something, everybody else does the right thing.

1069
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: One guy missed and sets everything off. Cockland addressed that

1070
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, I think it comes down to us.

1071
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: I mean, we gotta finish drives. I mean, anytime you

1072
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: start falling behind, the run game kind of is just

1073
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: it's off the table. I mean, it's what eats up

1074
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: the clock and um, you gotta throw a catch up

1075
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: like that if you want to save time. And especially

1076
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: when we get down multiple scores. Um, you really can't

1077
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: get in a rhythm. And the run game is more

1078
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: of you know, it's something that it's built. You don't

1079
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: just set the table at the beginning with the run game.

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00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's you know with most teams when you

1081
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: start seeing big bronze that comes in the end of

1082
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: the third fourth core, when teams are getting tired, and um,

1083
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: when we build us as a whole, Um, you really

1084
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: can't get to that point. And I think that really

1085
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 1: comes down to us to be able to sustain drives

1086
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: and finished drives, and um, we haven't able to do that. No,

1087
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: they have not, No, and that's been one of the problems.

1088
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: And when you run into teams that are finishing their

1089
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: drives with sevens and you are not, that makes it

1090
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: difficult to win. And this is gonna be a tough,

1091
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: tough team now this is a game. If you look

1092
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: at the points we talked about, the Ravens are giving

1093
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: up threes are okay in this game. They've got the

1094
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 1: best three point shooter in the league. And Justin Tucker,

1095
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: who by the way, just had his streak snapped a

1096
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago of those consecutive makes at the

1097
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: end of the game when he tried the sixty seven

1098
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: yard or which would have been a career long against

1099
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: the Jags, and he did not make that, but he

1100
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: had been spectacular, and it's hard to even count that

1101
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: one on him, you know what I mean. But that's

1102
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: the way that it will show up in the stat sheets.

1103
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: But just real quickly because the number is staggering, if

1104
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: I can hear it is. His streak was eighty two

1105
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: consecutive second half and overtime field goals without a miss

1106
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: from November nineteen, two thousand and seventeen to November two

1107
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: thousand and twenty two. When he missed a sixty seven

1108
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: yard field goal attempt at Jacksonville, he good he'd be

1109
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: two in a row in the second half an overtime

1110
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: unreal um Amari Cooper battled on Sunday to play he

1111
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: was available and talked yesterday or today rather about the

1112
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: idea of having to fight through that injury. Here's a

1113
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: Mari Yeah, I mean just getting better. Um, you know,

1114
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: it's just a part of you know, playing football in

1115
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: this league. Um. You know, obviously it was a hindrance

1116
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: anytime you're not a d um but you know, you

1117
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: just fight through it and trying to be available for

1118
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: your team. And he did. He did fight through it.

1119
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: You could tell he wasn't the same. Um he is.

1120
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: Somebody would have a very good idea of the improvement

1121
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: that we all saw in Deshaun Watson was something that

1122
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: really tired yesterday the list of a lot of NFL

1123
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: stuff talking about how Watson was was bad in the game.

1124
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: It just was not the reality in any way. Um,

1125
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: I don't know that a lot of people watched it

1126
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: that we're saying that, because if you watch it, I

1127
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: don't know you can have that conclusion on it. He

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00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: made leaps and bounds from week one to week two

1129
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: for Watson. Here's Cooper on that improvement. Yeah, I mean specifically,

1130
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: it's just you know, you know, obviously getting that rhythm back. Obviously,

1131
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: the timing with US receivers pass catchers because you know,

1132
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: he he just hasn't had that many reps with us.

1133
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously, like I said before, the more

1134
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: reps he gets with us, um, the more reps he

1135
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: get in the game, that will help with this rhythm

1136
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: and timing. You know, when you it's funny when you

1137
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: hear him talking about the reps, you think back to

1138
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: thinking that the suspension was going to be one where

1139
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: there would be a bye week and then come back,

1140
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: that it would time out that way. That could have

1141
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: made the difference in all of this, Like all of

1142
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: those reps in there, I mean amount of games, all

1143
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: of it. I said it. We were given a great, great,

1144
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: great disservice when the league overruled a federal judge and

1145
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: turned it from six to eleven. That certainly hurt the

1146
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. One thing that's interesting is that feels like

1147
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: with Donovan People's jones, you've seen a great rhythm. Now

1148
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: fifteen targets eleven catches over a hundred fifty yards in

1149
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: the two games for a mari though sixteen targets with

1150
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson only six catches for eighty two yards, So

1151
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: they have not gotten into their groove yet, and that's

1152
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: something that the Browns certainly will need now. Part of

1153
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: that could be the hip injury for Mari Cooper last week.

1154
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: Seven targets, two catches, forty two yards, But that's we

1155
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: got to get him back to the levels that he

1156
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: had been producing prior to DeShawn taking over. Let's flip

1157
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: to the defensive side of the ball. Greg Newsom, one

1158
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: of the things that was very evident after the game

1159
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: on Sunday, you pointed at this this out yesterday, Myles

1160
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: Garrett's leadership, the things that he had to say afterwards,

1161
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: it was great to hear him say that. Greg Newsome

1162
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: paid attention as well. Here's Newsome on Garrett's message. Yeah,

1163
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 1: I mean it just shows, you know that he cares

1164
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: about the team. It just shows that, you know, we're

1165
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: in a never give up mentality. We're gonna give it

1166
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: all every single game. We're fighters out here. You know,

1167
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: no one's in the building is you know, moping around

1168
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: or you know, giving up. You know, we're still gonna

1169
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: go out there, you know, play our hearts out and

1170
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, see what can happen at the end of

1171
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, and certainly so, speaking of Newton, the

1172
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: challenges this we we don't know who it's gonna be.

1173
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: Probably could be Huntley, could be Brown. Doesn't think they're

1174
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: gonna run the system that they run. Uh Dobbins will

1175
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: be the key to that thing if they can try

1176
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: to keep him wrapped up a little bit. Here was

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00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: Newsome on the challenges of facing this Ravens offense. Um,

1178
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's too much of a challenge. I

1179
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, there are quarterbacks all kind of

1180
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, do around the same thing. Like they're not

1181
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: going to really change the offense, you know, as much

1182
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: as as we've seen in the past. We've played them

1183
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: last year where they didn't have Lamar and kind of

1184
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: kept the offense you know, pretty similar. So I wouldn't

1185
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: say it's, you know, too big of a challenge. At

1186
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we've gotta, you know, whatever

1187
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: the game plan is, do our job and you know,

1188
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: try to be as successful as we can. They're in

1189
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: a weird spot because, uh, let's let's just be candid

1190
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 1: them all. Anyone's gonna be watching these last four games

1191
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: or Watson in the offense, I mean, you know, the defense,

1192
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: you're it's there and it's but it's been ups and downs,

1193
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: and it's been much mostly better of late. Um, but

1194
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: it will really be the Watson side of this that

1195
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: everyone's paying attention to last four game. Yeah, but I

1196
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: think this defense is playing for quite a bit as

1197
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: well in terms of what that defense is gonna look

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01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: like in three from a variety of standpoints. So I

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01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: think that it does matter. And for guys like Greg MJ,

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01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: you'd love to see them get their first interceptions. I

1201
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: think that's something that's kind of like hanging over Greg

1202
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: a little bit. You saw him dropped the one in Houston,

1203
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: and so you want to see those guys get those

1204
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: things so they can kind of just take that mental

1205
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: thing off of their plate and focus on playing football.

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01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: How many do we have as a team. We got

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Speaker 1: one last week. That's six now that'n't happened now that

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens, for example, I have fourteen we're playing

1209
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: this week. Game changing plays, more, game wrecking plays, potentially more. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's why their record is what it is. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: There's so many, so many things that the box that

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Speaker 1: four games left. Here's where we sit in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. Your current playoff picture, I'll tell you what

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01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: you want to talk about. Your fortunes changing in about

1241
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: a millisecond. It reminds me a little bit about George,

1242
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: Like Georgia having to play Ohio State playoff, Like this

1243
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: doesn't seem right. We're the one seed for the Kansas

1244
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: City because Buffalo has the tiebreaker over them. Is currently

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01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: the two seeds, so Buffalo would be the one of

1246
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: the playoffs third right now in the ac Kansas City

1247
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: is the two up until New England one yesterday they

1248
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: were playing the Chargers. Once New England wins, they're playing

1249
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Speaker 1: New England. The difference in that is the Grand Canyon. Yeah,

1250
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: massive difference. And that's that's that's the wild nature of

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01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: this tightly bunched group right now. When you got you know,

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01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: three teams at seven and six. Uh in the a

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Speaker 1: f C. Right now only one of them is in

1254
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: and then they're a big gap. It feels it's a

1255
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: long shot for Jacksonville or Vegas or the Browns or

1256
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh obviously to make it in. But there's a good

1257
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: there's a three team race. It feels like, can the

1258
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: Jets hang on? The Chargers are definitely the best in

1259
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: the one team that nobody wants to see. I would

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01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: think of those three in the a f C. No,

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01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: everything that could go just including with you losing, you

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01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: being us, everything else that could go wrong. Did New England?

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Speaker 1: New England won, the Chargers won. They both have your tiebreakers.

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Speaker 1: They have got to get to nine losses before you

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Speaker 1: could get in with eight because of the tiebreakers. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: that that was that was where you sit there. So

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Speaker 1: right now the Chargers are on the outside looking into

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Speaker 1: Kansas City. Be the two. New England to be the seven,

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01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: the three six, Miami is the six. Baltimore is currently

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Speaker 1: the three. UM Baltimore schedule is really manageable. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to see them being any worse than eleven and six. Yeah,

1272
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Speaker 1: So the question is can Cincinnati them you surp them?

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01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: Eleven and six, they will. Then one of those has

1274
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: to be a win over Baltimore to get rid of

1275
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: the tie breaker, and then Baltimore would still probably have

1276
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: a better division record than Cincinnati because Cincinnati's lost to

1277
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: US and Pittsburgh and Baltimore in the division. So they

1278
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: really need to feel beat finished twelve and five and

1279
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: they get Pittsburgh and Baltimore again and Buffalo and Tampa Bay. Right,

1280
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: Baltimore beats US, that would give them I think Baltimore

1281
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: would have because they just need to get to the

1282
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: most that the Chiefs can the Bengals get to in

1283
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: the division is three. They've beaten the Bengals, They've beaten

1284
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: the Browns, they beat the Stealers. So if they can

1285
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: win one more of the last three division games, they

1286
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: would have the division tiebreaker. Yeah, so Cincinnati needs to

1287
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: finish a game ahead of Baltimore to be able to

1288
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: to be in that three spot. Do you want to

1289
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: be that way? Because Cincinnati right now, I know you'll

1290
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: be on the road, but we would you rather be

1291
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: Would you rather go play at Tennessee? Yeah? You'd rather

1292
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: play Tennessee than Miami or the Chargers? Sure? Yeah. The

1293
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: same thing is opending in the NFC when we get

1294
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: over there, the bottom could be where you want to

1295
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: avoid a little bit. Um well, not exactly as bad.

1296
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: The a f C is far worse. Uh, Tennessee and

1297
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: or Baltimore sitting there at three and four. Like you're

1298
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: doing an a f C power ranking. Let's say this

1299
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: is the a f C playoffs most likely to win

1300
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I would go Kansas City, Cincinnati, Buffalo, Miami, Baltimore, Tennessee,

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01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,439
Speaker 1: New England. I put the charges even ahead of saying

1302
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: people that are in. I'm saying that the teams that

1303
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: are in. That's right that order make a debate on

1304
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: whether or not some people would still like Buffalo. But yeah,

1305
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: I think Cincinnati, Kansas City, Cincinnati, Buffalo are the top three. Miami,

1306
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: Baltimore would be the next two, and then the bottom

1307
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: two would be Tennessee in New England, Yeah, and Baltimore.

1308
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 1: It really depends on Lamar. Of course, you need him

1309
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: to be healthy, which should be he should be for

1310
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, you'd think. Um, so that's where

1311
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: you stand right now in the a f C. By

1312
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: the way, remember Buffalo still plays Cincinnati. They play second

1313
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: to last week. Cincinnati closes with Buffalo and baltim War,

1314
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: So that could theoretically be for the a f C

1315
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: and then for the division in back to back games,

1316
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: they could get the tiebreaker back. They'd have the tiebreaker

1317
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: over Buffalo if they had the same record with a win,

1318
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: and then they would have a chance, probably in the

1319
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: last game of the year. I can't imagine it doesn't

1320
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: come down to that. Oh it's gonna come down to that. Yeah,

1321
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: that's right to be Sunday night football. Yeah, game that

1322
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: should be for the should be for the a f

1323
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: C North. Yeah, it should be. Uh. In the NFC, Philly,

1324
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: it's done, runner away from it. If you look at

1325
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: the remaining they play Chicago this week, they're gone and one. Um,

1326
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to imagine them any worse than

1327
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: fifteen and two. I mean, maybe they lose to Dallas,

1328
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,919
Speaker 1: but the rest of it isn't is nothing right? Don't

1329
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: they play like Philly again? And I'm sorry, Washington again.

1330
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: Maybe even the Giants. It's not a hard no. They

1331
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: it's really crazy. They're so great, they have been so great.

1332
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: But this is one of the easiest schedules I've ever seen.

1333
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: Uh in the league that the schedule that Philly has,

1334
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: um and some it's just bad luck. Like teams that

1335
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: you thought would be good work good correct, it's it's

1336
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: hard to wrap your interroom. But they're gonna be the

1337
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: one's there's I see no path otherwise. The two right

1338
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: now is Minnesota. UM, they're pretty feckless as a two.

1339
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: They're not very good defensively at all. They are ten

1340
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: and three with a negative point differential. Ye, but they're

1341
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: scary offensively. They can be Jefferson's a game record. Obviously,

1342
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: they're the two seed. UM. I think clearly the second

1343
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: best team in the NFC is San Francisco, even with Purty.

1344
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: They are the three right now. The to seven game

1345
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: would be Minnesota and the Giants. UM. The question is

1346
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: can can anybody catch the Giants? So there's seven, five

1347
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: and one. The teams in high speed pursuit are Detroit

1348
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: at six and seven, Seattle at seven and six. Seattle

1349
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: is going the wrong way. It feels like only to

1350
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: Tittners this week. Yeah, so they'll go to seven and seven.

1351
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: So it feels like the only the only team that

1352
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: could catch him is Detroit. But they got a two

1353
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: game lead in the lost column. They do and that's

1354
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough one for the Lions to make

1355
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: up that ground. Now, the interesting thing, and this one,

1356
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: is that if you're the Cowboys, you're in the catbirds seat,

1357
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna be the five seat, and you're gonna get Tampa,

1358
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: and Tampa is has been dreadful. But you also are

1359
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: scared to maybe take on Tom Bride, just the Brady

1360
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: mystique that's still there. It could end up being Carolina

1361
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: though for all we know there Carolina beat them head

1362
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: to head. Are we putting the Packers to bed out

1363
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: to pasture their final four games home for the Rams

1364
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: on Monday Night O six and eight at Miami Okay

1365
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 1: home for the Vikings, home for the Lions. So they'll

1366
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: be favored in two, Yeah, for sure one, but maybe

1367
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: not any more than that. Yeah, I think I think

1368
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 1: they're out to past your buddy because they I mean,

1369
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 1: you're you're talking about a three game difference in the

1370
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: lost column between them and the Giants, who are the

1371
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: worst of the two wild card teams in the NFC

1372
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: East Washington actually save the Giants in that situation, I mean,

1373
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: I could see the Giant. I have to look at

1374
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: the Giants schedule here to close it out to see

1375
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: you know where they stand on it. But you they

1376
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: would have to lose, Well, they have these three of

1377
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: their next four. The Giants, Yeah, they'd have to get

1378
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: I understand that, but they only have five losses. Green

1379
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 1: Bay as eight. So the Giants last four games at

1380
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: Commies at Minnesota home. For the Colts at Philly, they'll

1381
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: be they should be an indie at home, that's ship.

1382
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: That might be all they'll need. And Philly they might.

1383
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: They might rest people. I don't think you would if

1384
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: you're the one seed, you don't want to rest two weeks,

1385
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: do you. I wouldn't think. Yeah, I don't like. I

1386
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: don't like two weeks off. I don't. I don't like

1387
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: that at all. Um, Carolina could catch Tampa Bay. There

1388
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: five and eight, Tampa Bay is six and seven. Um,

1389
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 1: both of these, Tampa Carolina is kind of sort ahead

1390
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: in the right direction, Carol, Tampa Bay is a disaster. Yeah,

1391
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: I think Peter King said it yesterday. If they win out,

1392
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: they and Tampa loses one more game, like there, Carolina

1393
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: wins the NFC South. Well, let's do this edule game

1394
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: for for Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay has at uh, their

1395
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 1: Cincinnati at home, that should be a loss. They're at Cardinals,

1396
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: who knows what that could be that I think they'd

1397
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: be favored in that game, maybe minimally. Then they play

1398
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: each other the second to last week, and then they're

1399
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: at the Falcons. By the way, that Cardinals games Christmas

1400
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: Night is brutal Carolina. It feels like Tampa Bay will

1401
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 1: at least win one of those last four. To me,

1402
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: Carolina's last four are Steelers at home this week, then

1403
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: their Lions at home, then at Bucks at STS. So

1404
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 1: they need to If if Tampa Bay wins one, then

1405
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: Carolina needs to win two to have the same record

1406
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: in the division, and they would have the tiebreaker because

1407
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: if if one of those wins is over Tampa Bay,

1408
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: if they have the same record, Carolina would get in

1409
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: its wild Yeah. Yeah, that's where you're at. That's the

1410
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: league right now, and at the bottom of the end

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Speaker 1: of sea is brutal Dad. The idea that like the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles char with all that talent currently are out

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Speaker 1: and teams like the Giants and the Redskins are the

1414
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 1: Commies potentially the Carolina those teams could be in his wild. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Happy to be back after a was it weaker two

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Speaker 1: week hiatus? Miss you miss a week? You miss a lot.

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01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: That's right, it felt like a lot. It's like a

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Speaker 1: lot of trivia flu. Was it a beat down on

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01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 1: your has been waiting weeks? I was gonna say it

1439
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: took less than seven seconds for you to break, which

1440
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. We should have made a bet on

1441
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: that gives sure easiest bet of the century. So was

1442
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: it was on the plane flight down to Houston, long

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Speaker 1: flight and uh, three categories only they need more cannibals,

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Speaker 1: more categories, food, geography, and general knowledge, which really wasn't

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01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: it didn't feel like it was general knowledge? And was it?

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01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: It was just it couldn't be anything I understand, So

1447
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: it was it general knowledge? AP said, it didn't feel

1448
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: like general knowledge. I'm trying to specific. They were forgettab Yeah,

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01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 1: they were like very crazy and geography was it was?

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01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: It was good. So we went and we did a

1451
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: best of seven. I won the first one. I was

1452
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: feeling good. AP got hot and some of it you

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01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 1: had a great string of You knew a lot of

1454
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: stuff in geography didn't get but you had a great

1455
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: string of guessing because like part of the thing was

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01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 1: there was something you've never even no chance you've ever

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01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: heard of it, and so you're saying, trying to eliminate

1458
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 1: two and then give yourself a fifty shot at it,

1459
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: and you were ap was red hot. So he was up.

1460
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 1: He wins three in a row. So now I'm down

1461
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 1: three three one like the calves, like the calves, and

1462
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: then the rally. The rally came and in fact, I

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01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: think on one of them, on the last question, you

1464
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: got me on the last question, and then I think

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01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: I got you on the last question. Yeah. It was

1466
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: back and forth every just about every single round on

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01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: that plane ride down that was got down to like

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Speaker 1: the last like last question or two, I think, and

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Speaker 1: and you're missing an important part of this. So you like,

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01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: you get points based on how quickly we also identify

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01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: the colts like Jeopardy right standard. And the reason why

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01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: I point that out because I've thought about this a lot, Nathan,

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01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: And I think the reason why I struggled so much

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01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: is because that concept of the points got in my head.

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01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: I was I was trying to be very quick to

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01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: answering it because especially on the questions that were about

1477
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: like wine and things like that, and because I knew

1478
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: you were going to get those pretty quickly. That's but

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01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 1: I got to my head and so next time we

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01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: have a chance, I'm going to keep that in mind. Yeah,

1481
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bounce back. Well, there was also I'm glad

1482
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 1: you mentioned that. So it was also like you were quick,

1483
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: but if you graze the screen, oh yeah, it could

1484
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: like call that an answer. Even if you didn't hit

1485
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: one of them, would just put that one right on

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01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: the top. And so we had Beijing Gate, which was

1487
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 1: a very just so contentious. It was contentious. So this

1488
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 1: isn't like Game six maybe, and I was in a

1489
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: good spot at the time, but it was in Games

1490
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 1: of Argentina score again to nothing, I'm forget okay, turning

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01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: it off, Um, where one of them was? Where in

1492
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:18,560
Speaker 1: what city did the Tienamen Square episode take place? And

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01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: of course I knew it was Beijing, but I must

1494
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: have somehow hit the thing, and so it gave me

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01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: a which was not Beijing. And I turned around, like

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01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: I know this. When it's Beijing, I wouldn't give it

1497
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 1: to me. Said the scores. The score, yeah, the score

1498
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: is yeah, I said, you want to win that I

1499
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: could come up with that excuse any other question, but

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01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: I said it immediately. I do side with him on

1501
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: it's fair, it's rules of the game. And then you

1502
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: also said the same, which this I actually would give

1503
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: you credit for. But when the flight attendant came by,

1504
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 1: it was like, if they're handing something out and there

1505
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: in your way, that's I mean, there's nothing. I was

1506
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: delayed by that. Yeah, we had he had like minions

1507
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 1: working at his behest, and I'm like, I'm like, when

1508
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: I gotta get it here. So I come back three

1509
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: in a row winning, gave pivotal Game seven with a

1510
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: little rick flare down the aisle, much to the chagrin

1511
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 1: of some people aboard the flight. You won't be doing

1512
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 1: that again. Let's just say the commander heatherly called no joy,

1513
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: no joy. Yeah, no, ridiculous. It was great. It was

1514
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 1: like a two seconds who very disturbed. And then on

1515
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 1: the flight back two seconds. It was like twelve seconds,

1516
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: you know it was it was halfway down the walk

1517
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: away so and then on the way back we had

1518
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: it going. I think he was, of course, come on

1519
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: so way back though then we went for the rematch

1520
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: and he was just he was rattled. He was rattled, clean, sweep,

1521
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: get the brooms out, and that was it. But I

1522
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: think you'll be back. You're formidable. You're formidable. The other

1523
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 1: benefit was once it turns out two times through like

1524
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: there are a lot of we knew a lot of them,

1525
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: like we were. I would say it was like that's

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01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: a speed, that spear speed. I hope we don't remember

1527
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 1: the repeats on the next time listen. We need pop culture.

1528
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 1: We need to be your question sports. Yeah, there was

1529
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: no sports questions very how do you not have sports

1530
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: in trivia? And like in general knowledge semi pop culture.

1531
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: One was about some Jason Alexander movie called North to Alaska,

1532
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: which I had never even heard of. Yeah, no point

1533
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: of refits on that. Yeah, no, it must have ben

1534
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: a flop anyway, I'm the better or worse. Actually it's

1535
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: called Higher Lower. It's presented by keeping Fun Ohio from

1536
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:30,960
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1538
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 1: Of our good friends at ESPN dot Com and the

1539
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: ESPN NFL Nation crew, you were better than everybody else

1540
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: who played by the way you beat everybody on your

1541
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: own show. You want your own segment here. Yeah, it

1542
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: was a two headed needles you that'll shut you up.

1543
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 1: By the way, if you were listening to us, I

1544
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 1: literally just said, Argentina to nothing, We're turning it off.

1545
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: We need the hot buttons is gonna keep bringing it up.

1546
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 1: Commander heavily called no joy. We need other happens. And

1547
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: that's how I end up with my hands on say

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01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 1: that is needed to. Yeah, jib really said that on

1549
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 1: the show. Said I'm glad it wasn't. When I was

1550
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: on the show, there were there were things being talked

1551
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: about that lad. Poor decisions down the stretch. That's right.

1552
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 1: I don't even know what he's talking about, not the

1553
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: do I Alright? The Cleveland Browns are twenty four and

1554
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: the ESPN Power Poll for week fifteen. In front of

1555
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 1: them the Raiders, the Falcons, the Squealers. Behind them the Panthers,

1556
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: the Saints and the Cardinals a p Browns higher, lower

1557
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: or just right? Uh? I think this is appropriate. Um.

1558
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: I think it's appropriate When you ranked them too among

1559
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: the seven, five and eight teams, I think those are

1560
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: just about all the teams you rattled off there. Um

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01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: there number six among those seven teams, and I think

1562
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: that fits. Um. I mean it just it hasn't come

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01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 1: together for this team obviously, um. And I can't see

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01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 1: how you can make a strong argument for any of

1565
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 1: the other teams that are on the list in front

1566
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: of them here. Um, this is just where they fit.

1567
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 1: This is where five and eight team belongs. And I

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01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: don't see the point of necessarily trying to say that

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01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: they're at twenty two or twenty one. You just they

1570
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: have won back to back teams once all year. That's

1571
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 1: it's not a winning formula. So here's the thing that

1572
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: I think has been interesting from my end on. This

1573
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 1: is like you lost to one of the hottest teams

1574
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I know they didn't have all

1575
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: of their guys, And I'm not going to sit here

1576
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 1: and make an argument because who really gives a damn

1577
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 1: If you're eighteen, it's not good. But one thing that

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01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: I do find that's interesting is it feels like it's

1579
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 1: an equal amount of outrage if you lose to the

1580
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 1: Bengals or the Ravens with lamar as there is when

1581
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 1: you lose to the Jets up thirteen. Like those things

1582
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: aren't equal to me. You lost with Super Bowl contender

1583
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 1: at their place, Like, did they have all of their guys? No,

1584
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: but they still have a top three quarterback in the league.

1585
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 1: They still have one of the greatest weapons on the outside,

1586
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,600
Speaker 1: and their defense is really, really good. So I'm not

1587
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: gonna argue about where they are are, but I don't

1588
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: the outrage of some of the losses is odd to me.

1589
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: Like the New England Laws at home is the one

1590
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: that set me over the edge. That's the one where

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01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: you just went, what, How's that possible to show up

1592
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: like that? Losing it Cincinnati in Cincinnati. They lost to

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01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 1: Baltimore in Baltimore, Cincinnati. But it was the Jets, it

1594
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: was the Chargers, it was you know, the Patriots performance

1595
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: was just the Dolphins performance. Yes, just come on, Yeah,

1596
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 1: that was it. Those were the signs. Yeah, the Bills.

1597
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: We should have won that game against the Bills, be

1598
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:36,560
Speaker 1: honest with you. Next, the Eagles are number one, the

1599
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 1: Chiefs are number two, Buffalo number three, Both bishop pire

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01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: lower or just right. Well, I don't know. I don't

1601
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: want to step on something you have going on here.

1602
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't think I am cincinn I'd have Cincinnati three.

1603
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 1: I would have them a had a Buffalo. They're better

1604
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 1: than Buffalo right now. They beat Kansas City, had had

1605
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. Um, and we're pretty solid in the

1606
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: fourth quarter closing that game out. UM. If you want

1607
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 1: to have them ahead of behind Kansas City because of

1608
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 1: one more loss, fine, but they've won what six in

1609
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 1: a row now, UM, I would have Cincinnati higher than Buffalo.

1610
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: I think you have them higher than Kansas City as well.

1611
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 1: So that's my biggest beef. So I guess in order

1612
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: to do that, I need Buffalo to drop so lower. Yep,

1613
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: they are worse. Bengals up, Niners up. Let's go next

1614
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 1: four lower? Alright? Number four is Dallas, number five Pedro

1615
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 1: not Pedro uh Zaga higher? Lower or just right? For

1616
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,440
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners that don't play in San Francisco,

1617
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 1: they are better, as I just alluded to. Bengals up,

1618
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: Niners up, They're up, Buffalo, Bills down. I'll take the

1619
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 1: Niners over the Cowboys right now as a matter of

1620
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 1: fact as well. So I think the Bengals you could

1621
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: slot in it like three Niners, four, Bills five, Cowboys six.

1622
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried that we're really hyping up Mr

1623
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,560
Speaker 1: Purdy after one start, it's more about the guy that

1624
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 1: you've got on the hot seat. It's more about his genius.

1625
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of that system, Deebo and McCaffrey.

1626
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: The defense, but he'll come back. The defense is elite,

1627
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: and also the NFC. You know, I mean, if San

1628
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: Francisco played Buffalo right now, I think they'd be favored again.

1629
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, if it was, I'm kind of

1630
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 1: saying what gives us saying that's a lot of faith

1631
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 1: in Brockbury. I know it's two good games, and it's

1632
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: it's it's very remarkable about him though it's about the

1633
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: but but when it gets there's right and when it

1634
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: gets this late in the season, the playoffs, it does

1635
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: become about like the quarterback experience things, and he's Mr Relevant.

1636
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: He's got two games, and yes they're good games, but

1637
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 1: you think that's gonna like keep up there. I'm not

1638
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: saying they're still not a top five team, because I

1639
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 1: do think they're a top five team. But I don't

1640
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: know if I would pick up over the Bills, is

1641
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. They seem a little fractured. That's a

1642
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: fair argument. Would you have the fort iss higher, lower

1643
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: or just righte A. I had him as just right,

1644
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: and I think you can even make an argument to

1645
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: be worse even with the way Brock Party has played.

1646
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: I just don't see how that's gonna be a sustainable

1647
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: that that production is going to be sustainable, because, like

1648
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 1: you said, there's tape, um it's impressive two games, but

1649
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: he's this is still is the first two starts of

1650
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: his career, the first two games of his correction. I

1651
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: mean that you're I mean he was, he was a

1652
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: kid who's was but it's not like this is someone

1653
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 1: without talent. I mean, he held an Alabama scholarship offer,

1654
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 1: he was at the Manning Passing Academy as a high

1655
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 1: school kid. Like you know, things didn't go well at Iowa,

1656
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 1: stayed at the end, and sometimes you don't test well

1657
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: at the combat. I'm not suggesting he's gonna be Tom Brady,

1658
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: but he's also not Bailey Zappy, right, But but you're

1659
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: ranking him with now with Jalen Hurts, Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen,

1660
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,600
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, and then you get the Brock Party. It's like,

1661
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:44,919
Speaker 1: do you really think that that's gonna be a sustainable

1662
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: I mean maybe it will be. We'll see, but for now,

1663
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 1: history says that it's going to not be so. Next

1664
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:56,919
Speaker 1: I am alright, number six, the Vikings, number seven, Bengals,

1665
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: number eight, Miami Dolphins. A lead us off higher lower

1666
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 1: or just right? For the Dolphins, Uh no, I think

1667
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: they're this is higher better. I take them over the

1668
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: Bengals and Vikings right now, and I think you can

1669
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 1: make it argue every more over. The Baker, I would

1670
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: still tell, look almost died, I think almost. Weren't you

1671
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati? Yes, yes, we had, Yes, you were there,

1672
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: you were on the flight right you saw him? Did

1673
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 1: you see him last week? Aginst Kansas City. I am

1674
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 1: willing to give them a pass on these two thousand

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Speaker 1: yards of receiving offense, and they whipped us. I am aware. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: did you see Miami the last two times out? I

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Speaker 1: did see Miami, and I also understand that they were

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Speaker 1: on a west coast trip and it wasn't a favorite time. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is the main excuse, but I

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Speaker 1: don't see. They've still got Tyree killed Janel Moddle. Like

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Speaker 1: you look at the guys, you have an offense. I

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Speaker 1: think they're going to turn around, Mr Bishop, did you

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Speaker 1: let me ask you a question? Question from for AP

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Speaker 1: You just mentioned the big brock Purty issue. You know

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Speaker 1: you're gonna eat quarterbacks. You gotta beat quarterbacks to uh Burrow,

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Speaker 1: Yes Burrow, you're right, Okay, not a little thing. Let

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Speaker 1: me just say that it would be a good game.

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Speaker 1: There is one injury that is not really getting talked

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Speaker 1: about aut of Cincinnati. They just put Trey Hendrickson on

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Speaker 1: I R wait, what was that? I think last night

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Speaker 1: last night? He got broken, hammer broken. He came off

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Speaker 1: the field right away in that second quarter. He and

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Speaker 1: Hubbard are a great tandem, but they don't really have

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Speaker 1: a third so that'll be interesting to watch. But Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: the Natty alright, final one? As does that happen? Has

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Speaker 1: that happened before? No? No, And we found out we

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Speaker 1: found out about a lot of things in real time

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Speaker 1: on this show that none of the not even things

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Speaker 1: that were slight to be fair Wednesday night tape, I

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Speaker 1: wasn't drinking water as that was being drawn in Todd Haley.

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Speaker 1: The Todd Haley would have if I would have been

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Speaker 1: in mid sip. Yeah, because that was that's on a mug. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is. It's right behind is it right there? Final

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Speaker 1: one here? Guys. Uh. The Detroit Lions will go all

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Speaker 1: the way down to number seventeen higher lower, just right

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Speaker 1: in front of them the Giants, Patriots and Titan I

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Speaker 1: think behind them, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville and Green Bay. I

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Speaker 1: thinks the big mistake they make is they're doing this

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Speaker 1: on their record, not how they're playing. Right. Detroit would

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Speaker 1: be favored were several of the teams that they have

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Speaker 1: ranked ahead of them. It's just that their six and

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Speaker 1: seven because they lost six and the first seven games.

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Speaker 1: I love seeing what the Lions do every single week

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Speaker 1: right now, even when they were losing. They just always

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Speaker 1: seem like they make games fun. They are fun. There

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Speaker 1: are a lot of fun. And they gotta get Jamison

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