WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Draft Road Map? 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:05.720 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:14.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys This He's Talking 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:18.920 Cowboys Screaming Live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headhoars at 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:28.560 the Star in Frisco, Elliot Flowing, and now your hosts 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:34.160 Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.680 It is a wonderful Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys at 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:45.479 CT Talking Cowboys Tuesday from the Star in Frisco in 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:49.680 the s WBC Studios. Welcome in, everybody, another offseason edition 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.600 of your favorite show on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Rob Phillips, 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.360 Isaiah stand Back, heck My Harrison. We've got Chris Beam 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.920 in the back. No, no bushwhack today. I'm Kyle Yeoman's. 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:00.920 Actually at the end of the show. Is that the end? 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:06.679 At the beginning, I thought, okay, I'm just I'm just saying, man, 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:09.200 Rob your muted? Yeah, yeah, you need to make sure 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:13.039 yours who mute you about that? That's probably Mickey, you know, 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.200 it was probably stone cold. I bet you that's what 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:19.319 Col came in here and stunned Rob with this mike button. Yeah, 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:21.759 how was That's a dream of mine and gets stunned 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.600 by Steve. Really, you were sure that you probably one 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.479 of like seven in the stadium this weekend that did 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:31.280 good so much, pretty much stunned almost everybody. I think 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.240 heck might even got a stunt at one. No, no, now, 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.440 my insurance was not the bar go in there with that. 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:39.959 What do you think about? What do you think about 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.160 the Hall of Fame induction of of Taker. We call 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.720 him Undertaker, you call him take take my guy take. 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.200 I wasn't well, I didn't hear from name. Basis, I 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:49.720 didn't hear from him. It was a busy, it was 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.520 more of a nickname. It's not even I mean Mark 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:56.840 well Mark Mark call. But he prefers take, you know, 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:01.320 so I didn't hear from him. But hey man, that 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:03.240 was that was great. Bring him out. I thought they're 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:04.720 gonna make him go all the way down to the ring. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:08.600 That is a long for those of you that are wondering, 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.520 we are not a wrestle podcast. But WrestleMania was at 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.200 at and T Stadium, and I think every one of 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.720 us got a chance to go at one of them 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.960 two nights, and it was phenomenal. It was so much fun. 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:23.240 I mean if you missed it, I'm assuming it's gonna 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.639 be back at and T Stadium at some point. You yeah, 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:28.799 you gotta come. It was a lot of fun. I'm 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:30.920 not a wrestling guy. I know the stars, I know 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:33.079 the guys. I'm not big into it. I'll tell you 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.960 that now I might be. Now I loved it. That 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.880 might It was a lot of fun. Man, Let's see 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.040 baseball season coming up. I got I got a couple 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:43.840 of things. I'm pretty sure you can. You can get 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.760 in the ring. If Johnny Knoxviielle can get in there, 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:48.760 Logan Paul can get in there, you can do it. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.560 Even we Man was in there. Somebody want McAfee whenever 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.240 I wore your jersey that one time when I lost 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.160 the bet and I wore the jersey, somebody called me 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:00.600 a retired I was built like a retired punter. McAfee 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.480 got in there, So I think I have a I 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.760 would absolutely do love to see, should we just who 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:07.600 would you want him to face? You see Kyle coming 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.320 out of the ring behind with the cheerleaders behind him, 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.079 like the absolutely absolutely I could. Can you do a 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.080 flip off? Get pal drive by? I can hurt myself? 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:18.320 Who would you face who do you think you have 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.320 a shot at beating? Oh dude, I don't know. I 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.800 don't know any other than I think you can beat Mysterial. No, dude, 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.040 he was flying around you kidding me? He's like one 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.360 hundred seventy two years ago. He went likely he did 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.799 like he can still he can still move. I know, dude. 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:32.760 It was nuts. When you have a teenage son, you 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.560 get an opportunity to relive your childhood. So, dude, this 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:41.000 is me reliving my childhood and WrestleMania. And you know, 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.320 I go back to the Sportatorium days and me and 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:46.120 Nick talk about the von Erics and I've been there. 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.400 S booky, come on, I mean, go back to the 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:52.840 old junk yard dog days and it's just oh man, god, 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:56.800 this is that's when it was real, baby, It's still real. Nonet. 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.320 A lot of injuries. You see old boy get hurt. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.120 Oh I hated that. Yeah. Towards patella, he blew his 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.280 knee out. One of the first guys in the tag 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.640 teams first first match Saturday. Ye first match on Saturday. Yep, 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.080 he had it. He had one of the ussos on 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:12.760 his back and one of the other USO Brothers jumped 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:14.120 on his back. He tried to stand up that and 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:18.400 he said, no, sir, no, sir. I could see Kyle 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.480 getting the ring with who he'd be like and now 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.320 in the blue corner. Oh, I'm the announcer. Yeah, I 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.560 could do that. Yeah, I could totally announce it. Yeah, 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.240 you'd be like the Michael Buffer exactly. I wouldn't be 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.240 able to use the same slogan, but I could do that. 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.040 That'd be a lot of fun. They had a guy 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.279 out there for the main event and he'd get to talk. 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:44.440 But no froment. Oh what a fun time it was WrestleMania. 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.039 If you missed it, gotta go go next time. I 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.960 kind of but we've got a lot to talk about it. 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.120 It's officially draft month. Isaiah has taken a look at 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:57.200 the Dallas Cowboys Star Magazine Draft Guide, the official draft 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:01.119 guide of the twenty twenty two draft coming fast. He reads, 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:02.880 he just written it just right through the whole thing. Yeah, 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.680 just a lot of alignment on his cover, rigging, largely 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:11.760 by Kyle Yon. Little U not have had something to 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.440 do with putting that u W. I'm just saying it's 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.920 just for you. I try to get North Texas on there, 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:18.920 but it just didn't work, you know, just couldn't it 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.040 couldn't find one. I tried last year with Jalen Darden. 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.840 Didn't work. Rob. Before we get into draft stuff, we're 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.560 gonna talk plenty about the drafts, some strategies involved, and 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.520 of course what is going on in free agency because 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.200 there's really not a lot going on. We'll talk about 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:35.200 that in the third segment as well. Let our frustrations 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.720 fly a little bit. But any news and notes going 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:39.960 on over the last week since we were last on 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:43.560 the air from a free agent perspective, from anything as 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:48.640 of right now, not in free agency. Um, it's draft season, 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:50.960 like we got the is the magazine on sale yet? 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.080 It is at the pro shops okay? And then it 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:57.080 should be on shelves throughout this weekend okay. Like online 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:01.480 is right now digital online online, cool, go buy you 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:04.400 a copy. It's good. Shout out Kyle did a nice 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.640 job on it. Hey, it's draft season. Cowboys started their 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.279 official meetings on Monday. They've been going to Pro Day's 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:14.960 UM and UH thirty visits are now in full swing 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.320 as well, which finally, for the first time in two years, 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.760 they can actually meet with prospects in person, national prospects, 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.839 So it seems like they're turning their attention that way. 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.640 I don't know if they're done necessarily in free agency, 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.200 but I will say I'm a little surprised that we're 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:34.279 here on April fifth, fifth and they you know, they've 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.000 they've had two outside signings Saree agency. Well, there was 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.760 a rumor, I don't know how much truth is to 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:40.919 it that they were trying to be in a DeVante Parker. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:49.640 Oh yeah, they were looking at he did that. He 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:51.760 did that. You gotta give credit to New England for 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:55.000 getting that player. But when there were rumors with that guy, 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.040 I was like, yeah, that's I think that'll maybe that'll 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:02.920 satisfy the masses. But they did, so it's cricket. So 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.400 far would they trade for him? Was past? It was 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.560 a third or something like that, wasn't it? That's not 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:12.120 really I mean for a Monthday Parker. Monthday Parker is 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.200 a good player. But I don't know if you could 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.120 say the low is a third round pick. Let me 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.520 find the exact It might have been lesser. Yet it 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:20.160 might have been a fifth and and I think that's 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.480 what Dallas would probably look at right, maybe trying to 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.520 flap flip one of those fifth round picks because the 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:27.240 game they've got five of them. It might have been 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.840 a fifth, it might have been from the past twenty 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:33.280 twenty two fifth round pick from Miami in exchange for 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.120 a twenty twenty three third round pick. Yeah, so you 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:40.520 traded DeVante Parker and the fifth for next year's third. Yeah. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.120 So yeah, I mean it's not You're right, it's not 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:47.080 a haul. But he's an impact player. He's a good player. Yeah. 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.360 And I mean there that's a schefter report, and there's 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:53.080 a difference between cursory interest and real interest. And obviously 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.240 if there was interest didn't get very far. But it 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:58.080 does show you one that they're looking, they're looking, they 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.360 need help there. Um. I it just I would be 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:05.560 surprised if wide receivers not a primary target at some point, 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:08.600 you know, on the first couple of days maybe. And also, 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:10.720 like I mean, they were ready to move on from 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.560 Maury Cooper. I mean, whether you know that they wanted 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.320 to change it up, and but knowing that they still 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.640 needed to add some help here at that position. And 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.480 I think initially when we were looking at the draft 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.600 and we were having this conversation a couple weeks ago, 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.560 it was sure wide receiver in the first round would 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:32.560 be enticing. I mean, there's prospects there that could could 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.480 come in and contribute immediately, But it was really second 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.240 third round guys that you really had your eye on 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.960 because you have so many needs elsewhere. But you look 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.559 at the fact that they were looking the trade for 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.679 a DeVante Parker ish type of player. It's not just him. 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.720 I'm sure they probably did their homework on a number 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.480 of guys throughout the NFL. But then you've got the 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.840 confirmed names that have come in or the reported names 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.280 that have come in for the thirty visits. Treylan Burt's 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:59.720 Arkansas first round player, Chris Olave, Ohio State first round 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:03.520 player Drake Lundon out a USC first round player. So 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.720 all of a sudden, you're not talking about Day two 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.120 guys at the wide receiver position. You're saying, oh my gosh, 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.880 this might be what they think is their top need 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:14.920 at the moment. Now, there's other guys, of course, that 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:16.960 are first round talents that are in the building this 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.240 week for the thirty visits. But how much does it 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.600 change your perception on how the Cowboys could be attacking 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.800 this draft class and that sounds just absolutely crazy to me. 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.079 We're even talking about a wide receiver in the first 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.240 round right now with some of the other needs that 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.800 we have. But Kyle, for me, it's the philosophical difference 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.920 between what the Cowboys are doing right now and what 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.400 the other thirty one teams are doing. And I think 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.640 I wasn't surprised that it was Crickets for free agency 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:45.480 and that we were going to go about it the 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.400 way that we would. I mean, just think back to 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.839 the Alden Smith signing and some of those I mean, 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:53.160 we were not trying to make any splashes in free 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.000 agency during that time. So the guys that we got, 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.920 even that Parker, I thought that was someone. Then obviously 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.280 to me antenna we are still hunting and trying to 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.120 bring players in, and obviously there's so many different things 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:06.600 that we don't know, and they're not going to expose 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.920 their hand. But I just feel like, you know, Isaiah, 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:11.880 when you look at two teams that finished in the 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.200 Super Bowl for the Rams and you look at the 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:18.160 Cincinnati Bengals, the philosophical differences between those two players. The 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.360 Rams are a blank check team, you know, come in 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.840 sign let's go. You want to play? You know you 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.520 got cut from your think, Hey, come on, Cincinnati. The 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:27.920 Brown family is not going to pay you. That's just 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.720 their philosophy. They are not going to do that. But still, 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.240 after having so many years of not being a good team, 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.880 they bring in those first Now, obviously you're able to 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:40.040 compete at that level. The Cowboys feel as though they 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.920 have a core together and they just want to build 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.760 around what they have. So those thirty visits, I think 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.600 they're important. If you look over the history of the 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:51.160 thirty visits, some of those guys we've drafted, and so 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:53.640 I wouldn't be surprised if there are guys in the 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.920 building right now that may be here. I'm just hoping 0:10:56.000 --> 0:11:00.120 that it's in the form of a linebacker. While I 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:06.960 receive a linebacker our edge office alignment, please and thank you. 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:11.720 I am not surprised. That doesn't mean that I like it, right, 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.480 I don't. I don't. I don't like it. I don't well, 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:15.320 and again to your point, heck, but they're not going 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.240 to expose their hands. They want to figure out who 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:19.280 these guys are. I was one of the guys that 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.960 came on a visit. You at this time of the year. 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.360 You know, guys are flying all over the place. It's 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.480 cool to get in meet these guys, have an idea 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:30.000 of who they are characteristic wise, personality wise, who with 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.160 what type of player do you have as a person 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.200 because through the processing, you know, I don't know what 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.440 the combine was like this year in terms of meetings 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:39.680 and all that jazz. Normal, Okay, So I mean you 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.680 get a little bit of a time with guys, but 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:43.719 you don't really have a true understanding of who they are. 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.160 You get a number of formal meetings, you get about 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:49.280 forty five of them, and then you've got ten minutes 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.760 with the players like a speed dating. So it's exactly 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.000 why it is to speed dating. So I mean, you 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:55.760 don't understand whose guys are until you get a chance 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.600 to bring them in. And from that point forward, Man, 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.160 you know, we don't know who Dallas is thinking about drafting. 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:02.640 We would like to hope that they're that they're going 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:04.200 to try to feel these holes. You bring up some 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.840 of these highly competitive teams that were successful as past 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:08.959 year and thinking about the Rams. Guess what they're filling 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.520 their gaps, filling their major holes, right, I mean and 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.160 they're adding big time players on top of the already 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.040 existing big time players. You need some bread, right now, 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.520 take this money. Right. They've given up a lot too, don't. 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.280 They've given up a lot, a lot, but they've added 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.800 to absolutely, they've given up a time those gaps, all right. 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.240 I mean they just signed the best linebacker in football 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.880 to play with the best defensive lignment in football. Yeah, 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:32.800 if not the best player in football. Right, So they're 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.640 they're taking those big shots. You think about Cincinnati, Cincinnati, 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:37.800 everybody was surprised at how far they were able to 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.080 get this past year, right, even with the giving up 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.000 nine Saxon game or whatever it was. But guess what 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:43.880 they did. Oh, let's go out here and let's take 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:45.959 care of that position. Since that's where we struggled that 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.280 this year. Let's address that right now. Let's I leave 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:49.720 it up to the draft. Let's go out here and 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.719 get some veterans that are proving that we know, go 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.480 out here in ball and add to our team. Let's 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.280 solidify that, and then let's see and see what we 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.600 have left over so we can address those other areas 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.240 that aren't as gleaming. And that's why I'm I am 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.960 a little surprised. I mean, look, they're never going to 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:04.920 be a huge spenders and free Agenci's not the way 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:06.679 they do it unless they change course in the next 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.760 few years. But I am surprising that there's two been 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.800 two outside signings at this point James Washington wide receiver 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.320 and Dante Fowler junior at the edge spot. And we're 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:17.640 talking about all these positions that if they take a 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:22.640 guy at twenty four at two three different spots, four 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.840 different spots, you'd be like, yeah, yeah, that's a big need, 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.680 you know, Like they have not and there's still twenty 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.480 three days to the draft. So I'm not saying they're 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.600 done in free agency. Hell, they need a kicker. I mean, 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.840 they got to bring a guy to kick. But and 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.119 maybe that's something they look at the draft too, potentially, 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:43.280 but they're not covered the way they normally are leading 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.199 into the draft. Yet if you look at offensive line, 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.520 you look at wide receiver in particular, and I'm just 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.920 I'm I went and I looked back at the signings 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:54.360 they made last year, Jayron Curse, Demante Casey, count O'Neil, 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.120 Carlos Watkins, Brent Urban, Terrell Basham. They were all agreeded 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.440 terms they're signed by by March twenty fifth. I mean 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.839 usually they're a little more active than they've been. Again, 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.720 I don't know if they're done, but it's getting on 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:08.760 towards the draft now. I think there's certain positions where 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.520 they feel like, well, yeah, we can afford to see 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.360 what the draft holds and then we can circle back 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.040 to that position. They might be doing that too. So 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:18.000 you made this statement that organizations, including the Dallas Cowboys, 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.000 just don't spend that type of free agent money. That's 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.320 their culture, that's the way they operate. But has it 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.960 been successful, And you know what I'm saying it are 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.320 people okay with them staying with it? This is who 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.520 I am, and this is why we're gonna go about 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:31.920 it because this is way we've always done it. But 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:33.720 we haven't won a championship in how long. But you 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:35.960 haven't won a championship doing it the other way either. 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.120 You haven't with signing those big free agents you have 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.080 unless somebody did it though like that, I'm just saying, 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.440 look at it, look at it just outside of the Cowboys, 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.200 because yes, any argument you have with the Cowboys specifically 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.200 is hey, you haven't won one in twenty six years. 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.720 Doesn't matter whether you've done it or not. You haven't. Yeah, 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.200 look at some of the other teams in the way 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.320 that they've won it. If you're looking more recently, it's 0:14:56.320 --> 0:15:00.840 a volatile, aggressive rams sort of deal where they went 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.400 after it and they were the complete opposite of the Cowboys. 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.040 Forget the draft, let's go get free agency real quick. 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.760 And they're almost the complete opposite of everybody. Yeah, there's 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.800 really not another team that's is as aggressive as they are. 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.120 And it came very close to not working, but it worked. 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.000 So it worked. So hello, you know, I mean they 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.360 have the Trump card over everybody and how they come 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.440 Oh yeah, it came real close. Tampa did it right, 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.080 Timpa went on to spend money and got all their guys. Okay, 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.200 so they piece together their team immediately. But Tampa, Tampa 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.160 did exactly what Cincinnati would have done building through the 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.440 draft by having those bad teams and then you have 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.520 a Chamis Winston had a good team. That's that's that's true. 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.000 They were bad and then Brady gets there and then 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.200 also on top of it, you know TV twelve, Hey 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.040 I'll come, yeah, I'll come play with you because I'll 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:46.920 take a little less and that was the only difference. 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.360 That was the only difference between them winning the championship 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:55.760 and JPP and some other guys. But they had a 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:57.080 lot of dues, you know what I say. So like 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.760 they they added like immediately, like okay, yeah we have 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.720 a solid team. Okay, Cowboys having a solid base. But 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:05.720 on top of that solid base, you gotta add some dogs. 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.160 I was pissed off when I found out Bobby signed 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:10.480 for ten a year. Yeah, I was pissed. Dad has 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.440 had tend to sign him. They had Timmy and I 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.840 was as sign him. They had it. It wasn't the 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:16.480 fifteen to sixteen we sat here and talked about a 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.600 week at three ago. Yeah, they had Timmy and I 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.200 was as signed that, dude. I'm freaking the best in 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.040 the league, the best, No, I hear you. And and 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.320 they they did have interest. But again it's it's what 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.840 he wants to What do they have slot slotted, you know, 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.240 to spend And I did. I will say Todd Archer 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.240 made a good point. I know, I know. I'll just 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.400 throw this out there. Todd Archer made a good point 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.160 last week from ESPN when he talked about how at 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.160 the linebacker spot they play a lot of big nickel. 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:43.720 They play three safeties a lot of the time. It's 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.080 almost kind of like their bass. And so you got 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.000 Mica playing all the snaps. How much does your second 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:52.960 third linebacker play? Is it worth that mini million per year? 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:57.320 But I'm not But but dan Quinn, you know Dan Quicken. 0:16:57.920 --> 0:16:59.920 So you can make it work, and he would he 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.720 would adjust his scheme based around having Bobby Wagner on 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:05.520 your team. My psychology is, if you have an opportunity, now, 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.919 not just Bobby, just any impact player like that, every 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.960 down linebacker, right, we're just taking that particular example, every 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:14.960 down linebacker who just has been the best in the 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.720 league for some years, aside from what from Carolina was 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.960 at Coogly or whatever. I can't pronounce the last name, sorry, 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:23.879 but those are the only two Cats that you can 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:25.600 even consider for being the best linebacker in the league 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:28.040 over the past ten years. Yeah, ten years. Okay, you 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.040 got opportunity to secure him. Now he's an LA Cat. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:31.720 He probably want to go home all that jazz. Okay, 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:33.359 there's that aspect. And he goes back to what you 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.080 said when they won, and the Rams have now the 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:40.280 possibility of saying, hey, look what we've got. Plus LA 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:41.879 is not a bad place to live here, and he 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:43.680 say he's an LA kid. And plus you're playing with Oh, 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:45.960 by the way, you're playing with the best player of 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.200 the past, however long. But as Yeah, that's why I 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.960 said from the beginning, it's the philosophical difference. And I 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.000 think Steven Jones has gotten to the point where he's 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.720 just like, look, I am not going to pay another 0:17:55.760 --> 0:18:00.160 player to go into hybrid hybernation mode. And soon as 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.600 he gets paid, and we've seen that too often, especially 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.480 with aging players. I'm not saying that Bobby Wagner is washed. 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.280 I'm telling I think that he did have some juice left, 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.320 but it just didn't fit for what we're doing right now. 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:13.520 And let's take an examination of the teams that have 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:17.159 had success. The Patriots, what if they continuously built it 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.720 on on the fund on the foundation of having an 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.840 edge guy, a guy in the middle, and one good cornerback. 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:25.520 Last year, what did they do last year? They got 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.800 in preparation for this coming year. They knew they weren't 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:29.399 gonna win it last year, But what do they do 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.400 last year? They spent the most money Doings ever spent 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.520 in free agency where at tight end. This is this 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.360 is what I'm saying they for if we went out 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.280 and spent big money on a tight end, everybody would say, 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:45.040 what do you? What do you? Would you? But that's 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.760 so that's their foundation, right Like they've won both off 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.320 of having solid tight end. That's the change that I'm 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.320 talking about right there, And that's what I'm saying. If 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:53.960 you look at the Cowboys and the way that they're 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:57.880 put together. Everybody's talking about the uh coup being gone, 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.479 but nobody's pointing to the fact that we Tone Pollard 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.639 and everything that we've begged him to be as a player. 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:05.960