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Speaker 3: For today's episode, I am sitting down with doctor Elizabeth Fedrick.

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Speaker 1: the time, but you do have the ability to catch

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Speaker 1: it and choose to reframe it. And the more often

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Speaker 3: And I also feel like it's important to acknowledge you

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Speaker 3: said that phrase lifelong journey, and honestly, healing from most

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Speaker 3: trauma is a lifelong journey. It's not like you wake

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Speaker 2: Faced you is no longer an issue. It doesn't work

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 3: But as you've reiterated so many of these helpful tips,

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Speaker 3: implementing this structure can be a way for you to

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: And all of this, whether it is your healing journey,

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Speaker 1: whether it's rewiring your inner dialogue, all of it starts

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Speaker 1: with awareness, starts with you sitting down and really assessing

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Speaker 3: Is there anything else before I let you go. When

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Speaker 3: you feel like we should really address, you know, the.

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Speaker 1: Real overall idea of that is how you're feeling in

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Speaker 1: there will be fluctuations. We are humans, we have human experiences.

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Speaker 1: But what is the most consistent feelings that you have

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Speaker 3: It's so important to have that pulse check with yourself,

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Speaker 3: right because so often we, as you said before, just

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Speaker 3: feeling here, and we just accept this ambient level of

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Speaker 1: And it does not at all. And one of the

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Speaker 1: a lot. I call it the three WS. This is

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Speaker 1: a great way to check in on that. The first

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Speaker 1: W being what's going on? So you do a body

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Speaker 1: is it coming from? Is there anything creating this feeling?

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Speaker 1: Is there any triggers that's happening? And then what do

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Speaker 1: how do we regulate? How do we nurture, how do

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Speaker 1: we nourish? How do we take care of ourselves? And

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Speaker 1: by doing those three w's a couple times throughout the day,

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Speaker 1: it keeps you aware of that pulse check, It keeps

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Speaker 1: you aware of the baseline of how your body is

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Speaker 1: shifting to your environment.

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Speaker 3: Doctor, I'm so happy that we were able to make

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Speaker 3: this happen. So many helpful, useful tips in this conversation.

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Speaker 3: How do the hurdlers follow along with you? How do

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Speaker 3: they keep up with you? Give us all of your details?

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Speaker 1: Sure so. My website is evolved Counseling az dot com.

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Speaker 1: And then you can find me on Instagram at doctor

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Speaker 1: Dr Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: Fredrick, Beautiful I'm Over, at Emily a Body, and at

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Speaker 3: Hurdle Podcast Another Hurdle Conquered.

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Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time