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Speaker 1: five thirty this afternoon, five o'clock opening ceremonies. They're on

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Speaker 1: the practice field at Ford Center today tomorrow in the

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Speaker 1: afternoon and then morning practices on Thursday and Friday. And

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Speaker 1: everybody have a good weekend. Yes, yeah, happy to be

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Speaker 1: happy to have you back. Bill Well, I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: be bad. We were enjoyed listening from Afar. Oh. Rob

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Speaker 1: did a good job and I didn't beat up. I

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Speaker 1: was going to be piped by. You're part of the

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Speaker 1: part of the show. I enjoyed Nate's participation as well. Nate,

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Speaker 1: Nate always brings great for he hit the road and

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Speaker 1: he made it back safely, made an appearance on the

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Speaker 1: TV broadcast on Saturday night. And we've got no leaf

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Speaker 1: blowers in studios, so we should be distraction free, yes,

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Speaker 1: you have a better backup than Tyron Smith those Okay,

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Speaker 1: oh my vickey already ready to get on his soapbox here.

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Speaker 1: But it does feel like the first day of school.

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Speaker 1: We've got new rules as far as the media entering

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Speaker 1: the Star, which what are you three don't have to

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Speaker 1: mess with these new rules, but me being a member

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Speaker 1: of the media from outside and double dipping inside. We

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Speaker 1: am sporting right here. We have to have it scanned

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Speaker 1: this year scan not just walk in. You can't just

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Speaker 1: walk in and now you acknowledge you you get it

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Speaker 1: scanned this year like NASA, like retinal scans. Next. Dang,

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Speaker 1: I feel so official. I feel much safer, that's right.

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Speaker 1: So it's and then I come in and my chair

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Speaker 1: had a wheel of missing, and you know, I think

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Speaker 1: as well. What do you mean you had a wheel?

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Speaker 1: There was a wheel missing on my chair and Scott

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Speaker 1: Pursel found me another chair. There. Wheels were already off

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Speaker 1: this show by the time we got started here. You

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Speaker 1: knew that when you started this mission, mister Phelps. That's

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Speaker 1: exactly right. I thought you came in on a wheel chair. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's so much to talk about, and where do we start?

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Speaker 1: Do we start on the injury front? What do you think? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and do that right Obviously, Zack Martin is

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Speaker 1: good news yesterday, and we'll hear more from Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: at four forty five Central Time this afternoon. But a

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Speaker 1: was very encouraging for him to make it back three

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Speaker 1: Saturday night. Jerry said he was going to sleep much better.

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Speaker 1: So the early prognosis was basically what you said, Bill,

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Speaker 1: it would be very short term. So that's the best news,

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Speaker 1: especially after we got a longer look at the backup

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Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah, that was shaking your head. If you're

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Speaker 1: not that watching right now, Mickey's shaking his head, but

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Speaker 1: And I'm just a mere fact that. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: And the and the deal is he's not just any starter, right,

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Speaker 1: sign to see Zach and some of the linemen taking

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Speaker 1: the time in the press box, we were kicking around,

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Speaker 1: Joe Looney, you know, to me, it would made a

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Speaker 1: you're starting quarterback, assuming you don't have two of your

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Speaker 1: but I just have got the impression that injury doesn't

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Speaker 1: it it that way, and I think he's gonna play

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Speaker 1: Dak Press Scott. I think he's just gonna keep playing

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Speaker 1: still need some snaps with the receivers and to try

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Speaker 1: Garrett looks at it that way. Guy. Yeah, he's very

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Speaker 1: torpedoes and all the same the way we've done it

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Speaker 1: it's something he always exudes. You know. He's always tell

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Speaker 1: that you know that that hey, Cooper Rush can get

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Speaker 1: move on to number two on the injury list, and

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Speaker 1: that would be the safety position, Xavier Woods. We will

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Speaker 1: find out more at four forty five from Jason Garrett Mackey.

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Speaker 1: What are you hearing on Xavier Woods? That one sounds like, well,

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Speaker 1: might be He might open this a little bit of time.

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Speaker 1: second game, all right, are you gonna sell the franchise

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Speaker 1: to get a replacement? Don'co there? Are you gonna go there?

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Speaker 1: you're kind of you need you need somebody, right, you

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Speaker 1: First thing that comes to mind? Twenty two? Hayes, Bob Hayes,

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Speaker 1: Hayes and Leroy Glover. Oh the two. Now that's not

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Speaker 1: fan of the show. Good question for you guys that

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Speaker 1: are in the zone at Dallas Cowboys Stadium. Is this

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Speaker 1: the year? I mean, Jerry Jones is a great guy.

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Speaker 1: He's the cheerleader of the team. But I don't see

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Speaker 1: like our need at safety. You know, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: say his name, but why are we not jumping out

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Speaker 1: after this guy like Seattle's a problem? Seattle's a problem.

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Speaker 1: They want two people to trade. This is where I

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Speaker 1: be you know, the thing about is Seattle is the

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Speaker 1: one that's got to move him. Seattle's got to come

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Speaker 1: to the realization that, Okay, we're gonna we're not gonna

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Speaker 1: get anything for him after this season. But they allso

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Speaker 1: are thinking about, you know what, our defense, we need

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Speaker 1: he Shouldn't're absolutely right. So this is not on Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones and and you know, as a general manager, this

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Speaker 1: is on John Snyder and John Snyder's willingness or not

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Speaker 1: willingness to trade a marquee player. That's that's the it's

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Speaker 1: all in Seattle, it isn't. The Cowboys can sit there

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Speaker 1: and say, you know, okay, well let's be aggressive and

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Speaker 1: let's do this and try and all that. But Seattle,

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Speaker 1: Dallas can make an aggressive offer. In Seattle could say no,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to do this because they don't have to.

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Speaker 1: Because they don't have to, right, So, don't don't blame

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Speaker 1: you could blame the GM for a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: Don't blame him for this one because the GM in

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Speaker 1: Seattle is also trying to win games too. So what's

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Speaker 1: the feeling? What? What do you guys see? I mean,

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Speaker 1: is it is it like we got a lot of

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Speaker 1: the pieces there are we are we ready to step

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Speaker 1: up in the next level? I mean, obviously we've been

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Speaker 1: eight and eight a lot of seasons in a row.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen and three one year, yeah, and that was just

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Does that count well? With

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Speaker 1: with with you know a couple of different guys in there,

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Speaker 1: twelve and four count twelve and four? What year? Like?

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Speaker 1: Does catch yet? Yeah? But I mean even numbered years,

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Speaker 1: even numbered years twelve and four, thirteen and three, and

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Speaker 1: now we're in an even another even number two. There

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Speaker 1: you go, built, there you go. Well, I've got a

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Speaker 1: Witton jersey, I've got a Romo jersey. But I'm just wondering,

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Speaker 1: I mean, with this, with these new guys, with this

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Speaker 1: young team, is the feeling that we're gonna break this?

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Speaker 1: Are we gonna are we gonna finally get into this?

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Speaker 1: Because I mean, it's just it's it's been a while

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Speaker 1: since I've felt that feeling, that feeling like, hey, this

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Speaker 1: is the year. You know, We've got the lineup that

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Speaker 1: we need. Did you feel like that? I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: ask you feel like that when they were thirteen and

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Speaker 1: three before the thirteen three season, Yeah, who went down

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Speaker 1: in Seattle? What do you feel like then? Oh man?

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Speaker 1: When Romo went down in Seattle, I was I was

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Speaker 1: hard protet Okay? Then and they went thirteen? There we go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it it's year to year. I think the difference this year,

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Speaker 1: I think we did we talk about this the other day,

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Speaker 1: how the defense might be set up to be the

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Speaker 1: strength of this team, or at least early on, because

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Speaker 1: their astres looks good. There's some questions about the passing game,

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Speaker 1: for sure. They can still plan on They still plan

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Speaker 1: on line up and running the football. They still think

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Speaker 1: they can do that thing. You know, thankful you got

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Speaker 1: Zach Martin still healthy to do that once the season starts.

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Speaker 1: But linebackers deep, they think they've got some guys they

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Speaker 1: think they can rush the passage. Yeah, this young secondary

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Speaker 1: been pretty good. There's a lot to be incuraed. I

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Speaker 1: just said that there's a lot to be incouraged about. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this. This offense is moving the

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Speaker 1: ball against the other opponents ones without Beasley and without Zeke.

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Speaker 1: That's true. You know they think about I mean those

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Speaker 1: are I think those are two of your key offensive players.

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Speaker 1: Some of these things that running the ball on the edge,

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Speaker 1: that getting the guys out front, the toss sweeps, that

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Speaker 1: hand off, those plays you know with with Rod Smith

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Speaker 1: they go for six, seven yards whatever. I mean, these

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Speaker 1: things have a chance to have big plays. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on defenses. They you know,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that they're trying to throw the ball

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Speaker 1: down the field with vertical passing game to keep people

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Speaker 1: from stacking on him. You know, if he hit a

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Speaker 1: couple of those. This offenses has a chance, I think,

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Speaker 1: to be really really good because of the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks ability to throw on the move. You know,

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Speaker 1: you've got some receivers underneath. It was good to see

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Speaker 1: Terrence Williams getting the end zone. That's what Terrence Williams does.

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Speaker 1: He finds space in the end zone. Boom, you find

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Speaker 1: him right there. I think there's a lot of things

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Speaker 1: positive about the offense. Again, they're moving the ball without Zeke.

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Speaker 1: Put him in the lineup and now where are you

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Speaker 1: gonna be right? Where are you gonna be there? Mickey's

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Speaker 1: talked about that all along. Defensively, Byron Jones looks like

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Speaker 1: a natural plan right corner right now, he really has.

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Speaker 1: He looks natural. I mean he's they got two corners

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Speaker 1: that are willing to fill in the run you got

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Speaker 1: you got Heath running from the inside. You got Jalen

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Speaker 1: Smith running from the inside, you got Sean Lee running

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Speaker 1: from the inside. I mean, you've got the capability of

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Speaker 1: keeping people right where they got to avoid they so

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Speaker 1: how many times in the game, Bill you did the game? Two?

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Speaker 1: Three times they get off the field on third down

637
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: only to get a penalty. He can't anthy Brown. You

638
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: can't get caught for yeahs yea, yeah, the one, the

639
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: one player I remember Brown with Brad. I think it

640
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: was like end up being like eleven play drive for

641
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: Sincinnati after they after they had that penalty, Cincinnati went

642
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: on a drive. You know, he can't have that. That's

643
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: this defense is good enough to to stop people with

644
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: what they say. You kick Randy Gregory in there. If

645
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: Randy Gregor is going to have a sack, if it's

646
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: not a false start on the on their one of

647
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: their tackles, I mean he's gonna get a sack. I

648
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: think that's way he's mad. He was mad because the

649
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: guy jumped off sides so they could you know, you

650
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: kick Crawford inside. That's a good little rush inside on

651
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: that side. Taco playing a little bit better. Let's see

652
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: if he keeps it up. But you know that was

653
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: encouraging the other day inside. No, I think people should

654
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: be encouraged, and everybody seems to be so down about things.

655
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: I think the word is encouraging. What we saw in

656
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: training camp. Now let's see backup offensive line is not encouraged.

657
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean, think about what we're complaining about. Yeah, the

658
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: backup offensive absolutely right. Safeties getting here is complaining about

659
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: the running backs. We haven't complained about the wide receivers,

660
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: the defensive line, the line fivers a little bit, time ends,

661
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: we'll see how that fits in. But they actually caught

662
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: the ball. They did, right, Yeah, even the one that

663
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's doing caught the ball well. And

664
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: it's like it's like, you know, we keep talking about

665
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: Jeff Swain the only one with catches. Well, guess what,

666
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: he's the only one that's had an NFL pass throne

667
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: to him. Right, So they try to do some twelve

668
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: personnel in the game swing around. How about that? Now

669
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: that we have there have been complaints about deep balls

670
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: and can they get the ball down the field? And

671
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: they keep trying, and there's still a question of who

672
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver is gonna step up and make defensive account

673
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: for him. This is where Thompson, This is where Joms

674
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: and where the loss of Thompson and we didn't see

675
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, we talk about Tavon Austin, same thing.

676
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin played the other night, and they're gonna get

677
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin involved. He's just not gonna be a screen

678
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: trick him. Guy, he's gonna be yeah, I mean, he's

679
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: going to be a legitimate player in this offense. They're

680
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: gonna figure out ways. His attitude is good, his explosiveness

681
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 1: looks good. You know, he's gonna want to prove people wrong.

682
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: I think he hit this guy at the right time.

683
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: So they've got enough weapons. You know. Now, whether it

684
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: all holds up, we'll see. But I am more encouraged

685
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: by this team coming out of camp than you were

686
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: going in than I was going in because I didn't know.

687
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there was like the defensive tackle spot that

688
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: you know, what did we know about Tavon Austin. It

689
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: was a big damn guess is what that was. Hey,

690
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: Dak even said he's not just a gadget guy, and

691
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: that's what he'd heard about it. He said that the

692
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: reputation the guy who was he was most surprised by

693
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: over the three weeks in Auxnard. But from his skill

694
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: set was Tavon Austin. They could be a complete wide receiver.

695
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: I think Michael Gallo validated what we thought, right, We

696
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: didn't know, right, we thought, um, So yeah, if you're

697
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: concerned about the tight end position, I'll say it again.

698
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: No team has ever not got to the super Bowl

699
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: and said we would have been there if we had

700
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: a better tight end. He lost the super Bowl because

701
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: with tight end went that's right. He Smith, Jackie Smith,

702
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, Hall of Famer, Starbucks. Fault ball

703
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: was low ball was behind that. He takes He takes

704
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: responsive responsible. They've had a pretty good tight end for

705
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: fifteen years that they know they have been super Bowl,

706
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: but they didn't win the super Bowl. They've had a

707
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: pretty good tight end here for about forty years. That's

708
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: a good point forty five. Yeah, they've they've evaluated the position.

709
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: When you go Billy Joe Dupree in the seventies, well,

710
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: Dick was here, Dick in the in the late sixties,

711
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: early seven I think, wait lates early seventies, say he

712
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: was all right, although by that time his name was

713
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: better than I think how he was playing, right. But

714
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: they've Cosby in the eight es, and then of course

715
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: Nova check in the nineties, and the and Whitton and

716
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: the Oughts and the what do you call this decade?

717
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: The teams? This is the teams all over again, right, Yeah,

718
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: the Oughts teams. You know what they might it might

719
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: come down to them having to go find a blocking

720
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: tight end. It might come down here. And I think

721
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: that's I think that's the biggest concern as anything is.

722
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm just walking. I just want James Hannah to come

723
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: walking through that door. Nobody ever talks about him, but you.

724
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: I love James Hannon. You did. I love James Hannah

725
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: because if you had James Hannah on this team right now,

726
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: you would feel good about the way they play at

727
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: the point of attack. But the way there again, I'm

728
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: going here scheme wise, when they move, guys, it's angle blocking.

729
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: It's angle blocking. You're not asking Jeff Swam and Jarwin

730
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: to go toe to toe with a defensive end. You're

731
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: asking the position wall off and let the let the

732
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: blockers get to the outmay let me ask you this,

733
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: James Hanna, Oklahoma, right by the way Bill Way and

734
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: Flower Mount High School. That out there all right? You

735
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: get down to September first, yes, and you get what

736
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: you've got your inventory at tight end, right, and they

737
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: like get them for the future, but maybe they don't

738
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: like them as far as blocking. And then there's a

739
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: blocking tight end that is available out there. How how

740
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: in the world do you make that fit? How do

741
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: you make it fit? Well, you're gonna have to figure

742
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: out is this the Is this the situation that you're

743
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to carry one less defensive back? Are you

744
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 1: going to carry one less defensive lineman? Maybe a guy

745
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: like Coney Elie is on your team, you know right now,

746
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: but you know you move. What about the running back situation?

747
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do there? I mean, old Wally

748
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: can play as a single back if you wanted him too.

749
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: I've seen him do it at Oakland. But that's you know,

750
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: that's that goes down to the Scarborough and Jackson and

751
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: those guys. They might go too and one full back

752
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: and then see how that how that goes until they

753
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: got it figured out. Are you use the fullback more

754
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: than two tight ends? That's that's another way to do

755
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: it too. But old Wally, though, I don't think he's

756
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: as good a blocker, a dig him out linebacker or

757
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: dig him out guy as Keith Smith was. Ki Smith

758
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: was like a bull in a china's job, just banging

759
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: through things. You know. I think old Wally he's a

760
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: little bit more of a controlled guy. But I think

761
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: Old Wally is a better special teams player. That's where interesting. Yeah,

762
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: that's interesting. All right, Joel in Frisco, You're next up.

763
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking Cowboys, Joel. Hey, guys, I'm going to direct

764
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: this a little bit more toward Brian. But please, anybody

765
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: jump in on this. Oh, they will trust me. I

766
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: don't have to beg Yeah, don't bet is. This is

767
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: a scouting question. So I've been very impressed with Will

768
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: McClay in the scouting department over the last I don't know,

769
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: four or five seasons, right, with their ability to take

770
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: players that we're playing, maybe in the long scheme or

771
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: a scheme change, and bring them to the team. So

772
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: my three examples Malie Collins, Dorence Armstrong, and Charles Tapper.

773
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: So I'm curious. This is something that's got to be

774
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: everywhere in scouting. But he's done a particularly good job

775
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: on the defensive line. I'll hang up and listen. But

776
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: are there certain positions that lend themselves more to this

777
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: sort of conversion if you want to call it that,

778
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: than others in scouting? Thanks, guys, that's a great question.

779
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: And I think and you got to give Rod Marinelli

780
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: and Leon led some credit too, because Marinelli was the

781
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: one that it kind of has a vision for a

782
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: guy and says, Okay, he needs to be playing at

783
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: a tackle. You know, he had a vision for Crawford.

784
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: Crawford start off as a left end and he's getting

785
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: he's getting killed in the running game. So what does

786
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: he do. He kicks him from defensive tackle to end

787
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: to back the right tackle. So I give Rod and

788
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: Leon a lot of credit for that. I think the

789
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: defensive line is the one that you kind of look

790
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: at the most and say, Okay, this is conversion. There's

791
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: guys that there's guys that could play offensive tackle. Like look,

792
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: think of example, Zach Martin. Zach Martin was an offensive

793
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: tackle at Notre Dame, Like really good offensive tackle, left

794
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: tackle at Notre Dame. What do they do? They kick

795
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: him inside? You know that there's sometimes it's it's a

796
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: little bit of a it's a little bit of a

797
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: maybe his body type looks this way, or it's a

798
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: better scheme fit, or hey, we want to take advantage

799
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: of his athletic ability. But the one that the biggest

800
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: switch that you make is I think the defensive line one.

801
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: I think that's the one, especially with these guys here,

802
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: because they're ability to have guys that can play play

803
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: as a defensive end and it also plays a three technique,

804
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: Coney Ealy being an example of that. I think that's

805
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: where you get the most benefit. That's what you need

806
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: to help your coaches. Coaches have to be willing to

807
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: try that. I'm a guy that you know initially would

808
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: have thought, well, okay, Rico Gathers. If you know he's

809
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: catches the ball down the field, maybe you couldn't have

810
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: developed if he If he wasn't as good down the field,

811
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: maybe you could figure out, Kate, let's pla him at

812
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. Let's see what he looks like. Is you

813
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: just is it kind of bulk him up a little

814
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: bit and try what eno that he wouldn't enjoy it

815
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: all but eligible. But but but the thing I think that

816
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: you know, but again again it's the mental capability of things.

817
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: That's a tough thing. That's sixty five plays right there

818
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: every game of If you make five mistakes in a game,

819
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna get yourself, you're gonna get your team beat.

820
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean offensive lineman or evaluate on on a number

821
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: of plays, not just one play. But you have to

822
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: be able to So yeah, I think that to answer

823
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: the question, it's more of a defensive line situation, that

824
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: is anything real quick outside of quarterback, which offensive position

825
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: is the most challenging mentally center? Okay, I think so.

826
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: I mean because you you, what you got to do

827
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: is you have to have a goal of calls. You

828
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: gotta back. You've got to be able to like when

829
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: when Prescott identifies who the mic linebacker is, now it's

830
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: it's Frederick's responsibility and Luda's responsibility to set the protection off.

831
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: Who the beside quarterback and center? What's next? Tight end?

832
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: We're getting close to tight end. That's why. Well, the

833
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: fact that you have to be able to run routes

834
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: and block right and know what to do. Yeah, the

835
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: white receivers know they're going out right right. The tight

836
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: end doesn't all as far read on defense what the

837
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: defense is doing, and been on the same page with

838
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Tight ends pretty pretty prominent. Yeah, one to

839
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: answer the caller's question, and Brian said, for sure. Another

840
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: example is Byron Jones. You know, you know Chris Rochard

841
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: type of secondary All right, safety, Fine, let's see what

842
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: he can do on the outside. He's tall, he's yeah,

843
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: he's played corner two years of his career at Connecticut.

844
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: That helped. But yeah, but Charltte looks at him and says,

845
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: this guy that he can get hands on guys of

846
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Speaker 1: This afternoon, the Cowboys are practicing an open practice free

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Speaker 1: to the public as training camp continues. The opening ceremonies

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Speaker 1: five o'clock this afternoon at Forward Center. Practice starts at

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Speaker 1: five thirty and they'll go again on Tuesday, a five

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Speaker 1: thirty practice. Wednesday is off and then Thursday and Friday

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Speaker 1: eleven am breakfast at the start. Can I stop the

904
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: show down for a little minute, man, right, there's up

905
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: for an award tonight O Real Sports Emmy, Sports Emmy,

906
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 1: Mickey spagnol Man, we got we got several and Jerry

907
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: Jones is gott getting an award tonight. So hopefully there's

908
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: I think we've got six or seven things that are

909
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: going up for awards night. The Sports it means to

910
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: be at at and T Stadium, so a couple of

911
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: us won't be well going to be putting on bow

912
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: ties and going to get a bring some hardware home.

913
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: So hopefully hopefully we've gotten my bow ties. So hopefully

914
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: for hopefully for tomorrow's show we'll be Mickey and I

915
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: will be able to put a couple of awards right there. Well,

916
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: and I understand because Scott Purcell just told me that

917
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: m Verne Lundquist is going to be honored the former

918
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: voice of the Cowboy absolutely many years going back to

919
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: I hope he gets to talk. Yeah, I think we

920
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: got to give a speech or something. Oh, he will

921
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: he's getting any fifty year award or something something along

922
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: those lines. My former intern in San Antonio, Don Harris

923
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: is getting like the twenty five year Emmy award an intern. Yeah.

924
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: In my former intern at Channel five in Dallas, Joe

925
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: Tessa Tour is doing Monday Night Football tonight with Jason Witten.

926
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 1: It's time for says he raised these young bucks as well.

927
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: Now they're are getting awards from being old. What's I've

928
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: never won an Emmy of my life. No, there will.

929
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: They will get you one. But yeah, hopefully, hopefully I

930
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: can say that, you know, the Cowboys, we pull some

931
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: awards tonight, there'd be a lot of fun looking forward

932
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, if we look forward to hearing about it, Yes, tomorrow,

933
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: I'm talking cowboy. Make you heard the menus really good?

934
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: By the way, I wonder if we can bring Verne

935
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: with us tomorrow, that'd be great. See if he's not

936
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: doing anything, he's in Colorado Springs, right, yeah, or I

937
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: mean we sat with him when it was two summers

938
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: ago and did an interview and he started telling stories

939
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 1: and it was unbelievable. And I wrote an entire half

940
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: hour TV script and after it was done, they said, well,

941
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Speaker 1: we can't use this. I go, why not? Went over, No,

942
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: we don't have any any pictures, we don't have any

943
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: video to go with it. And I said, just run

944
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: the interview. That's all. Well, we didn't mike you up.

945
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, how many times do you get

946
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: Verne lundquists? We don't like to hear Mickey, that's right.

947
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: That's that's the great thing about those guys, the veteran

948
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: sports guy that can tell the stories. I think that's

949
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: the I could sit around all night and listen to

950
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: guys like Sham and Verne Lundquist, and those guys tell

951
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: us great stories about And you grew up watching Verne.

952
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: I did. I did. I did as well and him

953
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: and list of the games with Verne. And also he's

954
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: do bowling for dollars, probably something he doesn't want to remember,

955
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: but but that's and Hill bring that up. He's got

956
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: great stories about he was you know, he was back

957
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: he was doing college football for the first time and

958
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: went down to college station to do a game and

959
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: stopped at a gas station to get some gas and

960
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: some lady came up to him. I know you, I

961
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: know you in his chest. You know he puts his

962
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: shoulders back and looking very proudly. How she recognizes me

963
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: from the game. You're the bolling fo dollars guy. It

964
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: sounds like sounds like me at the Stars game. And

965
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: some lady did the same thing. I know you are.

966
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: I go, who am I? And she goes, you're the

967
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: funny guy and the making of the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders.

968
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: Here you go, that's your claim. They remember. There's nothing

969
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: about memory you talk about. And verne Um I remember

970
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: at Cowboys training camp in Thousand Oaks watching him do

971
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: a stand up you know, and some of us take

972
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: thirty takes to get it right, and he would be

973
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: so relaxed with his arms folded just talking about the team.

974
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's just that delivery, that's just it's funny. People. Now,

975
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: he was such a part of the CBS with the

976
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: SEC network. So when I mean, he's beloved like in

977
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: you know, from South Carolina all the way through the

978
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: Louisiana and up in the Arkansas. And people recognize him

979
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: for you know, not so much for what he did

980
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys stuff, but how what he did for

981
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,479
Speaker 1: all those years and CBS with the interview when tonight.

982
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: I'll see if we can get it done. Because when

983
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: I when I did the interview, I told him, you

984
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: know what I remember you most about. I said, the

985
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: last preseason game. You always used to be doing the

986
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: Cowboy game right on TV and in the old original

987
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: in Texas Stadium, in the original press box. It was

988
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: right behind where we all worked, so there was no doors,

989
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: it was open and he his wife texts and Marty

990
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: Schram his wife. They would sit back there and they're

991
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: telling stories and laughing and we're all sitting there trying

992
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: to work. I said, Fern, you were the most o

993
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: your voice, and he started laughing. He goes, yeah, I know.

994
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: We were just having fun working And then they would

995
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: cut the team. The text would be a part of it.

996
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,959
Speaker 1: Everybody put in like five dollars or so, and it's like, well, text,

997
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: you get unfair advantage, right, And they let Marty hold

998
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: the money because she was the only honest one of

999
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: the bunch, right, we didn't trust anybody else. We can

1000
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: do that same thing here on Talking Cowboys. We could

1001
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: you want to do that, We'll give it a go.

1002
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Jeremy in DC. Next up

1003
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys. Hello, Jeremy, Hey, how you guys go

1004
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: on good wonderful congratulations on y'all awards tonight. We'll see

1005
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: I hope I can see him on the Cowboys Athlete

1006
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: on at night. Thank you. My question is do you

1007
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: think that they would move Crawford and Woods to the

1008
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: inside during the season? Why Irvin is suspended? And I

1009
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: was wondering about cam Kelly, do you think he'll be

1010
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: a perfect filing for safety? And who was this Robinson kid?

1011
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: Because he was showing up a lot in the Bengus

1012
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: game and Robinson, Tyree Robinson. He made some places he

1013
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: did and I was finally waiting for him to do

1014
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: that because if he watched the Oregon tape, he was

1015
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: capable of doing that. He showed that, and you know,

1016
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: I was, I've been waiting three weeks and quiet press

1017
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: me in a turning camp. But yeah, it was requitement.

1018
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: But they used him in some of that the compete

1019
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: period one on one stuff. He was covering Dalton Schultz.

1020
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: You know, he was kind of doing those things and

1021
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: I was, I see, man, I go, this guy is

1022
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: a better player than what he's showing right now. And

1023
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: in the game of the night they're playing him down

1024
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 1: in the box, that things open up in the middle

1025
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: and he steps up, makes a tackle for like a

1026
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: minus two, chases a ball the outside. I mean, there

1027
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: were things something anywhere. Mary that Barry Church was an

1028
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: undrafted safety. I'm just saying I'm hopeful that him. I

1029
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: think if you said him or cam Kelly right now,

1030
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: and cam Kelly's another guy. If you watched him at

1031
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: San Diego State, he was capable of making plays. They've

1032
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: had some defensive backs, these young defensive backs. They all

1033
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: physically looked the same. They all were good college players,

1034
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 1: but they haven't shown up like I thought they would

1035
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: show up. And now now you're gonna have to see

1036
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: with with Robinson, he's gonna have to cam Kelly. Yeah,

1037
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to step up and play. Either you're

1038
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: gonna make this team or you're gonna cut yourself. This

1039
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: will be Tyree Robinson's most important week, no question, no question,

1040
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 1: no question, because if he steps up and plays, he'll

1041
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: convince him, Yeah, we don't have to we don't have

1042
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: to go get a guy. We don't have to get

1043
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: a guy. And if he you know, that's that's the

1044
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: whole thing. But I only think you're gonna see Crawford

1045
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: kick inside in Nickel. I don't think there. I think

1046
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Collins, and I think it's gonna be woods.

1047
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: Wood's playing the one, Collins playing the three. When they

1048
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: go to Nickel, Boom, you're gonna see ninety eight inside.

1049
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: You're gonna see you can see Collins inside with Crawford

1050
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: and then with Greg Gregory and then Laurence rushing the edges.

1051
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: So that's kind of how I think. I don't think

1052
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: they're gonna move him back to three just to move

1053
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: him inside. Uh. One thing about Cameron Kelly if if

1054
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: he doesn't make the team the fifty three, he's a

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00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: great practice squad candidate. He is. He is so he

1056
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: can take Jamal Jamal Shower's place for and he's got

1057
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: a place to live right yeah Detroit. Well yeah, he's

1058
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: from Wiley High School in the Dallas foot Worth. Did

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00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: you get to use that one? You don't get to

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00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: use that one. I was just trying to set I

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00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: didn't go with that. I'm saving that for the Houston game,

1062
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: are you. He was killing and he's gonna get a

1063
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: lot of playing time against Houston. I've heard a lot

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00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: of people not going to the Houston game. I've heard

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00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,959
Speaker 1: a lot of media media. I gotta yeah, I gotta

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00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: be there. He's doing the game. I gotta do that.

1067
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: Now this how about Arizona game? You might not see

1068
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: me and didn't see me at that. What about you.

1069
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: I'll be there. You're gonna gore, gonna ride back with me. Yeah,

1070
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: let's DJ. Let's take turns, take turns, GJ. Yeah. Yeah.

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00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: It's only a four hour drive as opposed to six.

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00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: So you know, so if you leave at eleven, you're

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00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: home at three, okay, doing radio at seven thirty. Take

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00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: the one on one back from San Francisco to Oxnard.

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00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: You can drive from Houston back to Dallas in no time.

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00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: No big deal. You did that. We've done Brian's card.

1077
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: When I drove up one day, who stayed awake for

1078
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: the whole crew, all of us? Did you drove? Okay?

1079
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: So you drove up and did the game and then

1080
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: drove back. Yeah a yeah, twenty one hour day. Yeah, yeah,

1081
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: you don't have to do that. Go in the Houston though.

1082
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna drive the day of the game.

1083
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: There's room in the hotel. I got a spot in

1084
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: your car already. I gotta worry about that. Make you

1085
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: what i'd like to do. Craig Libra looks at me.

1086
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: He gave me a great seat by the way in

1087
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: the play home at that business class there and at

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00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: seven seven seven, that's where I was, right, don't you

1089
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: just right behind I was. Yeah, I was right behind you,

1090
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: kicking your chair like a little kid. I was working.

1091
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: You weren't working. Was everybody else is watching movies? Yeah? Yeah,

1092
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: because Mickey doesn't have a device to watch movies with

1093
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: a slide show back at the scene Kodak's slide show

1094
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: thing he's got. Who was reading your column on the

1095
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: way home from Oxnarn Yeah, okay, see, other people worked.

1096
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: I didn't say everybody else. Was that a lot of work?

1097
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 1: At least twice? Let me tell you what's going on here?

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00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: You don't know already. Okay, we've got a few minutes

1099
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: left here on talking cowboys. Um, someone that we haven't

1100
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: talked about, someone that stood out for you in the

1101
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: game on Saturday, we haven't talked about. Who might I

1102
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: think we kind of touched on Robinson a little bit

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00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: there myself. I was I was hopeful that you know,

1104
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: things were, Like I said, I was expecting him to

1105
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: be more competitive with Huff and you know, and then

1106
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: they kind of just let Huff go and he gets

1107
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,959
Speaker 1: hurt and like, okay, now step up and do something.

1108
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: So I'm sure I'm missing somebody, but he was the

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00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: one guy that I kind of thought, all right, you know,

1110
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: let's let's let's hope he can kind of piggyback then

1111
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: some better things. Here's a guy that Nate was singing

1112
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: the praises of last week while you were out, Bill

1113
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: Brian Price, a defensive tackle guy that showed up. He's

1114
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: more of a run stuffing guy, but he play well,

1115
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 1: push the pocket a little bit. Number ninety two. He's

1116
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: a guy to watch this last couple of weeks. What

1117
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: about ninety seven? Did we talk about him? We mentioned

1118
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: him earlier, but it was kind of his game, right. Yeah.

1119
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: He was glad you mentioned he was man of the

1120
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: match because all right, modum, we're looking at Randy Gregory

1121
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: and you're looking at Taco Charlton in that game the

1122
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: other night, okay, and Taco Charleton. I think he was

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Speaker 1: our man of the match as well. On TV. He did.

1124
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: I was watching the watching TV. Yeah, you pick all right,

1125
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: So I didn't pick him, but oh guy picked him

1126
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: spears someone in the truck. I don't know. You don't

1127
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: get to pick him. No, it didn't pick him. That's

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Speaker 1: not terrible, all right. What was the difference Randy Gregory

1129
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: and Taco Charleston in that game? The difference the difference

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Speaker 1: between the meaning who were they going up against? Oh yeah,

1131
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, Randy Gregory. Taco was playing against guys.

1132
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: He should have been beaten. Okay, And that's a great example.

1133
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: But you can't fault him for the no, no, no, no,

1134
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: can't fall because he here's times when he doesn't beat

1135
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: Cam Kelly, right, okay, but what I think I mean, Yes,

1136
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: I got Cam Gangan, what the hell he could beat

1137
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: Cam Kelly off the edge, Cam flem excuse rush um.

1138
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: But I think it's interesting the contrast there, because Randy

1139
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Speaker 1: Gregory is going up against if you know the Cincinnati situation,

1140
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: Cedric o'boyhe was their starting left tackle last year for

1141
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: her first round draft pick, right, and uh primary, while

1142
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: Alexander is here and Frank Pollock is there right, Okay,

1143
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: now he's the backup right tackle and so and they

1144
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: they traded for Cordy Glenn in the offseason because they

1145
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: knew the offensive tackles. There wasn't much in the draft.

1146
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: They had to do that to try to shore up

1147
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: this offensive line, right, and so Gregory's going up against him.

1148
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: Taco took advantage of the fact that the right tackle

1149
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: is Cedric Ole. Boy he who is on the perfect

1150
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. But you know what I thought, and we

1151
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: did this, you weren't there. We were talking about pass

1152
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: rush and Dorn's Armstrong. Taco was better than Dorn's Armstrong.

1153
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: I thought, didn't and the game he was, Yeah, he

1154
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: sure was. And we had talked about how Armstrong looked

1155
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: like he was a better pass rusher, natural pass rusher,

1156
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he kind of looked better.

1157
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: But it kind of gets back to Daniel Ross starting

1158
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: in that game. Coaches want to see him go up

1159
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: against the one. Sure, okay, yeah, but you know the guy.

1160
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: At times, you we have to keep in perspective who

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00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: these And I'm not saying talking about Taco, but I'm

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00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: talking about for the guys that show up in the

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00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: second half of these preseason games. Yeah, who who are

1164
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: they going up against? Really the guy they can't shake.

1165
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: It's like gum on the bottom of your shoe is woods. Yeah,

1166
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: it's like they keep moving them up, moving them up. Okay,

1167
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: at some point he's gonna be the guy that no

1168
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: one knew. And he's still there ready for him to

1169
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: drive in the ditch. He hadn't done it yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right, all right, that doesn't for talking cowboys for

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Speaker 1: this Monday. We will be back at it on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and I see the break about to start here on

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