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Speaker 1: now your hosts, Mickey's Fagnola, Brian broad Us, Taylor Stern

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Speaker 1: and Rob Phillips, Welcome inside the SWBC Mortgage Studio from

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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco, and welcome to Talking Cowboys, the

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Speaker 1: final show of week fifteen. Rob Phillips hosting for Tay

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Speaker 1: Stern Today, Kick Garrison producing next door Inside the Garrison

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Speaker 1: and uh joining me. Are all our December babies? How

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Speaker 1: about that? Yeah? Look at all you guys. Hey, happy

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Speaker 1: birthday to everybody in here. You're older, You're wiser. We

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Speaker 1: hope are we? Are we missing anybody? Just the three

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Speaker 1: of us Ambar was the eighth and Derek's still coming

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Speaker 1: up later on. But three and one week it's been

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Speaker 1: a fit about that. Best week inside the Star for Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're just getting older. Yeah, true, hope that, Dave, We're

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Speaker 1: all wiser. Hey, just because I'm younger than you doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean I'm not getting older. You're not catching up? O.

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Speaker 1: Well I got that going for there you go. Dave

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Speaker 1: Hellman joining us. Thanks for pulling double due today. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate that problem. Well, actually didn't suck yesterday on your

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Speaker 1: own show. I made Brian do it yesterday, so it's

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Speaker 1: the least I can do. Yeah, good job of hosting yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Bud. Appreciate this teamwork. I love it. Brian brought

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Speaker 1: us Y Spagnola as well. You guys just ran in

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Speaker 1: here from practice. What he did? What he got? It's

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Speaker 1: Friday Friday. Gotta get down on Friday. Wow, whoa that

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Speaker 1: can't mark that? Please? I would like that as a drop.

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Speaker 1: And here we are art the Apollo. Yes, party and party. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're familiar with all the lyrics, gets it, gets everybody

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Speaker 1: going during the stretch, gets me hype. Rebecca Black does.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, in the middle of dancing, did you, uh

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Speaker 1: we notice anything else? Yeah? I think the two things

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Speaker 1: I noticed were that Orlando Scandrick and Bryce Butler took

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Speaker 1: before the stretch and then ran off with the trainers.

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Speaker 1: So looks like they're not practicing again today. Brian's got

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Speaker 1: the fist up. I'd be out. Yeah, oh like an umpire. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be part of the show. You on the Friday.

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Speaker 1: And you know what's funny is like on our on

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Speaker 1: the show you did with me yesterday, I said, I

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Speaker 1: thought Irving my practice clearly not. That's three days in

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Speaker 1: a row. Yeah, giving him the old Yeah, he's I

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Speaker 1: tried to do that for you yesterday. You just didn't.

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Speaker 1: I know they're not gonna play. I don't care now.

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Speaker 1: Jerry and Jason both this morning kind of hinted it.

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Speaker 1: teams like to do that. I don't really get why,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't like, what's the big deal, you know,

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Speaker 1: I get it, but like they're not practicing. Scandricks still

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Speaker 1: just say they're out neither have practiced at all in

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Speaker 1: the last two weeks. Is that correct? I believe you're right.

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Speaker 1: So you agree with Brian on the AHIVO. I believe

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Speaker 1: on the charter. M good point is that where your

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Speaker 1: that memo to day to tie. Yeah, but is that right? Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean a fallback player if something happens in the slot.

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Speaker 1: And I know there's three games left, we'll see, but

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Speaker 1: Maybe you add to it in the draft going forward.

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Speaker 1: I love your Car for lining up every day and

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Speaker 1: You know. You know every time that he had an interception,

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Speaker 1: but it's fair. It's totally fair. It's just there's a

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Speaker 1: didn't do anything different in Cavon Free. That's that's my point.

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Speaker 1: He's he's filled into that rotation. That's that's a fair

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Speaker 1: but which I think you also have to, as you said,

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Speaker 1: not a one year deal, absolutely, and that's well. I

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Speaker 1: think the counter argument to that is these moves they

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Speaker 1: made hindered their chances of being a playoff team this year.

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say, and I think that

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Speaker 1: just went thirteen and three, like strike while the iron

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Speaker 1: So hm yah right, Good times Welcome back inside the

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Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage studio. Welcome to all our guests walking

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Speaker 1: by outside. Absolutely last show. You got a wave? Uh,

448
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Speaker 1: got a wave? Good? Be nice for once, Yeah, be nice, sir.

449
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 1: Just guys mind yourself. Yea, all right? All right? Did

450
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Speaker 1: you guys see to Marcus Lawrence apologize to the officials yesterday?

451
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Speaker 1: I saw him walk up during Marinelli's interview, and I

452
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Speaker 1: guess that's where he did it, in front of everybody.

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Speaker 1: He did. He spoke in the locker room too, but

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Speaker 1: he pointed out that a wise old man, a wise

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Speaker 1: man told him that it ain't holding unless they call it.

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Speaker 1: And it was probably the guy standing right next to him. Smart. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett too told him to think, told him to

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Speaker 1: kind of concede just in case a fine comes here

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Speaker 1: in the next few days. Oh he's already got the fine.

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Speaker 1: If that's the case, Well, he said, damage is done.

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Speaker 1: He said he didn't have it, Yes he had it,

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Speaker 1: but it'll come today. I was gonna say, he's probably

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Speaker 1: getting that FedEx. He gets through today. Mary Christmas, he's

464
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Speaker 1: home free. Yeah right, yeah, Marry Christmas. You know, yeah,

465
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Speaker 1: I mean, hey, it's it's it's understandable too. Seriously, you

466
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Speaker 1: sit down and watch, we all watch the games. We

467
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Speaker 1: all see what's going on. I asked Jason Garrett that

468
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Speaker 1: my theory has always been he was different from me.

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Speaker 1: My theory has always been, these officials let you play

470
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Speaker 1: when he gets closer to the playoffs. He didn't agree

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Speaker 1: with you. Now he did not didn't agree. That's okay

472
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Speaker 1: my EXPERI so well, they've let him play on and

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Speaker 1: do it just as long as he has. They've let

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Speaker 1: him play for the last ten games. Yeah, well on

475
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Speaker 1: one side of the ball. Yeah yeah, right right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You did some math on that this week. Pretty out

477
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Speaker 1: of whack. Huh you know it is, and that somebody

478
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: asked me about that earlier in the week, like, yeah,

479
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: it's out of whack. The Cowboys have drawn eight holding

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Speaker 1: calls on opposing offense. Is none from week five to eleven.

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Speaker 1: I think, like seven in a row where they're nothing. Um,

482
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Speaker 1: it's it's below average. I mean, so the league average

483
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: is sixteen. But then so you think about half the

484
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: teams in the league or below that. That's the point

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Speaker 1: of an average. So I think there's there's four other

486
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Speaker 1: teams that have eleven. There's a few that have twelve

487
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 1: and thirteen, Like it's it's not good, but it's it's

488
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Speaker 1: not ridiculous enough for me to think that it's like

489
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Speaker 1: some type of conspiracy. That's I guess that's where it's

490
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: just bad breaks and bad officiating really like, yeah, missed

491
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Speaker 1: calls and and it's happened to enough cruise and then

492
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Speaker 1: the other thing. I don't know, Brian, you tell me

493
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Speaker 1: if I'm crazy or not. I think it's it's reputation

494
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Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean this DeMarcus Lawrence is enjoying

495
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Speaker 1: his best year of his career as a pass rusher.

496
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't have a lot in the way of like

497
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Speaker 1: name power, Like if von Miller gets tackled or hooked,

498
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: like he's gonna get that flag because he's von Miller.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the most recognizable faces in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: certainly the most recognizable pass rusher. I think a lot

501
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Speaker 1: of that has to do and I think it works

502
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Speaker 1: against the Cowboys on offense as well. You kind of

503
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: take an NBA approach there a little bit. Yeah, Like

504
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: you get calls when you're established. I mean Lebron James

505
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: gets that call because he's Lebron James, you might not

506
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Speaker 1: get that call if you're some slappy coming off the bench.

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Speaker 1: M and in the same vein. You know, Tyrant Smith

508
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: is the best left tackle in football. If there's something

509
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: minutely wrong with his technique, they'll probably notice that because

510
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: they're looking, you know, like that jumps out at you

511
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Speaker 1: when you're watching Tyrn. So I think that, why doesn't

512
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Speaker 1: it work the other way? Then what he mean doesn't

513
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Speaker 1: get a break on his reputation, well, because I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's offensive line work, nutshell. Really, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it was Garrett that said that earlier, or

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Speaker 1: maybe it was Jason Witten. Is like, the difference between

517
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Speaker 1: a flag and a good play is like, right, that much,

518
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: very very subjective, and I mean I think it's I

519
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: think I think it unfair. It's it bends more in

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00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: favor of the defensive line more often than not, which

521
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Speaker 1: is which is funny because the defensive line hasn't been

522
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Speaker 1: benefitting from these calls for the last two months. They've

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Speaker 1: got thirty two sacks. I'm not sure where that ranks.

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Speaker 1: They're thirteen. Yeah, they're okay. So normally, if you're like

525
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Speaker 1: in the late twenties, then that would suggest to me

526
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Speaker 1: that you're not getting much pressure because only time guys

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00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: hold is when they're getting beat, right, and so if

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Speaker 1: they're getting beat they're they're grabbing on obviously with thirty

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Speaker 1: two sacks, so they're a little bit better than average.

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Speaker 1: They're getting pressure, they're not getting any calls. Yeah, I

531
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Speaker 1: air on the side of incompetence. That's officials, Yes, I yeah.

532
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: I think of it more as just bad breaks and

533
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: bad refereeing. Like I don't. I don't think the league

534
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: is choosing that method to stick it to the Cowboys,

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00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. I just think you got

536
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: to start calling tackling from behind. When you get grabbed

537
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: around your waist from behind, it's a hold. It's pretty

538
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: simple call, just like the one they missed on David

539
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: Irving in the playoff game on the last play, should

540
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Speaker 1: have been holding. Call it. Cask a question about the

541
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Speaker 1: positioning of the umpire, do it. Well, he can't see

542
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Speaker 1: you over there, That's what I'm saying though, But I

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00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: mean that's but you know, the positioning for so many years,

544
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: we've always been accustomed to the where the official stands

545
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Speaker 1: for calls for holding. You know, is the league better

546
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Speaker 1: with the with the umpire being next to the official,

547
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: or is he better behind the offensive line? Well, I

548
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: mean he was from a safety standpoint, he's better where

549
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: he's at now. But the question now, I question of incompetence. Yes,

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00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: you know the fact that you have two guys that

551
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: are watching people get to the quarterback and can't make calls,

552
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: is the game really better? I think you neuter that

553
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: guy from where he's at. What he can't he can't

554
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: see as well as he can where he used to be. Yeah,

555
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: directly behind the line. I mean that. I'm just wondering

556
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: because again, is there more holding calls less holding calls?

557
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Speaker 1: Or I mean it's obvious that if they have a

558
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: guy in position to where he is and he's not

559
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: making calls, and there clearly looks like they're holding calls,

560
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: what good is it to have him right there? Yeah,

561
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: you talk about safety and all that, there's jobs to

562
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: make calls. They don't make those calls, and the and

563
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: the and the head referees concentrating on the well for

564
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Speaker 1: the cowboys. I see what you're doing. Your eyebrows are

565
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: going up thinking you're thinking like, no, no, those calls

566
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: are made there, they've made five hundred this year, there

567
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: have been five hundred and ten holding calls on well,

568
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: that number's probably gone up. I assume there was at

569
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Speaker 1: least one holding. I wonder how many of those calls

570
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: have been made by that umpire being right there. But

571
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: don't you think he would I would imagine that puts

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Speaker 1: him in a better position to see that type of

573
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: that's the problem. That's the problem, I mean, and he

574
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: should be able by his line of sight. He the

575
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: first thing he should see is is DeMarcus Lords rushing

576
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Speaker 1: off hit that let off that side, that right side,

577
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: perfect view of it. You would think, Yeah, I can understand.

578
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: And if the official going the other way is picking

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Speaker 1: up the Tyrann Smith ones, you know, no, why why?

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Speaker 1: I mean, why is he not getting calls? I don't

581
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: don't you talk about respect that that's to me, that's legitimate.

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Speaker 1: I wonder about that. That's because I don't have a

583
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Speaker 1: good answer for you. And that's when you know, you

584
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Speaker 1: formulate ideas to try to help explain it. I mean,

585
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that von Miller complains about calls too. I'm

586
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: sure everybody everybody does. I'm sure just didn't say it

587
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: in the press conference. After the game and use a

588
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: few words. Well, shouldn't probably use he said, I'm sorry refs,

589
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: so hey, maybe he won't get a FedEx checks too,

590
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: like it's too like, yeah, it should be there. The

591
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: animals are wandering around him in the farm right now.

592
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: All right? Anyway, that was a nice little update from DeMarcus.

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Speaker 1: By the way, injury update. We were going on injuries

594
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: last segment, Dan Bailey said, no injury issues. Shocking. Yeah,

595
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: with his missile, I saw something funny in practice. He's

596
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: he's kicking field goals now. He's off to the side

597
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: right and he was kicking down field off the little

598
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: holding teeth thing that they use, and he's getting ready

599
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: to kick and Greg Gather, the assistant trainer, is about

600
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Speaker 1: ten yards down and he walks right in front of him,

601
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Speaker 1: ten yards right and he kicks. And I'm sitting here going, well,

602
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: that takes a lot of nerve. What if he doesn't

603
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: like kick it the way he's supposed to perfect kick

604
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: right over his head right right. It reminded me of

605
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: the first time I went to a professional Oh heck yes,

606
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Speaker 1: And there was a whole I think it was at

607
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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Country Club. It was a US Open and

608
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: they were the t box was up high, yeah, and

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00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: everybody was walking under underneath it, right, And I'm going

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00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting down. I don't trust them, you know,

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Speaker 1: Oh I trust Let me. Let me tell you what

612
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: they did, because they all hit it right over. No

613
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: one shanks one. How about it, Bailey would a shake woe?

614
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: How about the one where they're in the at the

615
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: Masters and the pine straw on the right, and they

616
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: just give them just a tunnel to hit out of,

617
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: Like there's people literally fifth maybe spends paces to the left.

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00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: It's a human tunnel. Yeah, it's a human tunnel to

619
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: get the ball out of the pine straw. And you're

620
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: standing there as a guy's taking a full swing. Makes

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00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: me a little queasy. I've done that here at the

622
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: golf tournaments here, and it goes through my mind, like

623
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Speaker 1: what if I'm always and I've got no I've got

624
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: no shot to protect myself. Yeah, you're gonna get hit

625
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 1: in the head with the balls, but they just hit them.

626
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I cover football and not golf. Golf

627
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: so boring. It's not just FYI, but just just think

628
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: where they get to go to cover those events. Where

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Speaker 1: you get to welcome to the black Hole day. Okay,

630
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Speaker 1: I said it. On the other side, I'm excited I

631
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Speaker 1: get to sit in a press box where you're even

632
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Speaker 1: your short little knees are gonna be near your throat.

633
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Speaker 1: I'm taking it. I'm taking a photo with the Gorilla

634
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Speaker 1: Man and the sling Crossbones. You got to do that,

635
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Speaker 1: getting a photo of the last time you're gonna go

636
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: to that place. Yeah, hey, West Coast, the weather would

637
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: be nice. Not that I want to get into weathertop, no,

638
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: but but you know, it's not a bad trip, like

639
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: sixty seven kickoff, temperatures like forty five. Really yet tall

640
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: you this this is a night game. This is notorious.

641
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on this. This field is notorious, like

642
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: Green Bass Field when they play night games because of

643
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 1: the air, the wet airic gets really slick. Well at

644
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: least it's not a baseball field anymore. No, but if

645
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 1: you played him in week two, you know, like if

646
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: you'd played it, you know, instead of playing the Broncos,

647
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: if you'd play you'd have played on that dirt, which

648
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: is devastating. But keep an eye on this serious. This

649
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: is this is mark my words, the wet air, the

650
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: cold wet air at that place at night makes that

651
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: feel very slippery. Keep an eye on that good good eye, Brian.

652
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Speaker 1: That it happens to stuff. Feel free to tweet at

653
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Speaker 1: me when it happens brings some extra long spikes. That's

654
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Speaker 1: like our friends at sports Science at ESPN sort of,

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Speaker 1: you know. And they have good t shirts. They really do,

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Speaker 1: they do. They're excellent. All right, ket who we got

657
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Speaker 1: on the line, got our old friend the wise Padawan

658
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Speaker 1: Rain for Worth Ray. You've never been introduced so well

659
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Speaker 1: in your life, I know, right Hey, happy blady to you,

660
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: Mickey and Brian, thank you and break My breakday is Sunday,

661
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: so I'm hoping for a win. There you go. All right,

662
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: we'll see what we can do for you. A couple

663
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: of things. The jury is still out for me on

664
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: this secondary is way too early. They've had some ups

665
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: and some downs. We'll see what happens when they go

666
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: to Nick year. Because yearly Rickie should take a step

667
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: from year one a year two. I wasn't on board

668
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: getting rid of the church, but we are. We are

669
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: where we are right now. If we if we lose

670
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: this game, you say a youth movement, I'm all for

671
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: getting Switzer in the game as a receiver and not

672
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: just give him my own fake jet sweeps. Sure, I

673
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: think I think the guy can play. My biggest fear

674
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: is this guy stays here four years or three more years,

675
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: does nothing but puns and kicks and then go somewhere

676
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: else and plays and becomes a player two. We should

677
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: win this game. Terios, whims where you've been. It's been

678
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: a long drop between the Kansas City game the Oakland

679
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: the Oakland secondary can't stop a nosebleed. We need you

680
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: to step up. Also, Sean Lee is gonna be huge

681
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: to stop beast Mode in this game because I expect

682
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: him to run him a lot. So thanks a lot,

683
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: guys all. He always brings it. I mean mini rant today.

684
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: By the way, did you listen to Charity today? Yeah? Anything,

685
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: any bulletin's nothing earth shattering. Ok. He didn't rule out

686
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: Irving or Skendrick, not yet. Anyway, he said, I gonna

687
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: wait for them to not show up to the plane tomorrow. Yeah,

688
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna wait to get that memo, saying, by the way,

689
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: we've downgraded those guys to get the membo at twelve

690
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: forty as everybody's going through the manifest there to see

691
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: who's not on the plane. Yeah, fair enough, that's what

692
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of media folk say r will

693
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: put it out to prevent other media outlets from letting

694
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: us know. Yeah. Sure, Skendrick getting closer though, moving around more.

695
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: I mean he's out there. I mean he's doing stuff

696
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: with the trainers. Um, it's much better than how he

697
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: walked into the locker room last Wednesday. Yeah, I'm gonna

698
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: be real mean here, you know, youth movement, if Mickey's right, Yeah,

699
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't need to see him anymore. If if in

700
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: fact that they if they lose this football game, play

701
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: play the young kids against Addle, play him against Philadelphia,

702
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: and let's think about what we knew needed to do

703
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. When that's over with and you have

704
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: a good you have a good excuse built in. He's

705
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: got broken bones in his back. Yeah, you know, if

706
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: rush it or if he comes back, he just does

707
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: one job. That's what you always say. He doesn't get both.

708
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: I think that's what they're gonna do. But me personally,

709
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: how far are you taking this youth movement? I mean,

710
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: all right, let's I mean, I'm I'm picking them to win,

711
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: for whatever that's worth. But if they lose, I might

712
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: not play Shaun Lee anymore. What oh oh? Now this

713
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: gets everybody yelled at me a couple weeks ago because

714
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: I said to stuff like that. Everybody just jumped down

715
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: my throat like football players have to play. But I would,

716
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: I would. I would definitely come up with And I know,

717
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: I know it's hard to it's hard to get coaches

718
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: not to play your best players. They want to win games.

719
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: I get that, but you know, I if it means

720
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: if I if I could protect a guy like Sean

721
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: Leeve the last couple of games and he wants to

722
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: play and he hadn't played, my go buy some handcuffs.

723
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: Well I'm gonna we got him out of the game

724
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia last week last year in Week seventeen, didn't

725
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: take his helmet off, his helmet game, but he did

726
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: not play. I I you know, so I didn't. All right,

727
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: that's a separate conversation. I was thinking mainly of the secondary, Like,

728
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: let's say they lose this game, like Heath and Byron,

729
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: who you're playing Cavan and Woods back there? Like why not?

730
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm just guess I just might be bringing what they losing.

731
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: Everybody else loses. Ah, and you're in the same boat

732
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: you are right now, and you're rolling out what you

733
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: got right now for sure. Yeah, out of you get nothing,

734
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: you lose. You keep playing until they say you're out right,

735
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm okay with that. But the minute

736
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: that they that they're out, I'm okay. Let's see what

737
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: the white kids got on the practice squad. The corner

738
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: Marquis White, Yeah, bring him up. I thought you were.

739
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: I thought you meant like the white guy. I was like,

740
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: there's a white corner on the practice squad. I don't know,

741
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: so I mean to me, I'm not if I'm trying

742
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: to trying to evaluate a couple of guys. And then also,

743
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: don't think that's funny, Mickey, it was funny. I thought

744
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: the same thing. I'm just saying, sorry, I didn't mean

745
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: to derail you. Calling for the Yell brand this game. Yeah,

746
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: well get We'll say feeling. Yeah check Dallas Cowboys, Dad

747
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: check cut feeling. Because I've I've flipped before sitting down.

748
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, dude, I since I started doing a

749
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: podcast and writing, because this is my first season doing

750
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: a daily podcast, like, I changed my mind from like

751
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: nine am to two pm all the time. So anyway,

752
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: that just kind of sums up this season. Though. Yeah, absolutely,

753
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: it's just such a roller coaster. Last year, I was

754
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: just like when, when? Duh when? When? Now I'm just like,

755
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: oh no, don't make me choose. Well, you can check

756
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: on that later in the afternoon. We'll have our gut

757
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: feeling predictions. But we got one more segment left in

758
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: the show. Let's take our final break. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Media Center. I'm Taylor Stern. Bryce Butler will be returning

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Speaker 1: to the Oakland Raiders this weekend. He started his NFL

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Speaker 1: the familiar team. It's gonna feel good to go out

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Speaker 1: there and play agains him. I mean it felt really

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Speaker 1: good to play agains him in training camp or in preseason.

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Speaker 1: Whatever I ask him will plays against him. It felt good.

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Speaker 1: So I mean I just would like a glad to

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Speaker 1: do the same. Fantasy stay tuned to everything inside the

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Speaker 1: eighteen team Media Center. This is talking Cowboys, but I

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Speaker 1: could share you some Papa John's pizza right now because

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Speaker 1: it is so good with those ingredients. The veggis freshole,

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Speaker 1: right you dude. Mickey, Welcome back to Talking Cowboys inside

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Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage Studio. A few minutes left to go,

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Speaker 1: the final show of the week, and you set for

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Speaker 1: cowboys and raids. Can't Let's go back to the phone lines.

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Speaker 1: Who we got Philippe and France Ally, Happy birthday, Brian,

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00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: Mickey and David, thank you, thank your again. Okay, the

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00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: year to come. It's funny how you English mother tongue

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00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: people pronounced the name of a long slamper in French.

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Speaker 1: It's Jean philipp Yeah. If we try that, we'll screw

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00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: it up. So yeah, it's okay. But do you know

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Speaker 1: what's the translation of his name means the sweetness? Did

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Speaker 1: not know that the last name Lattissor means the sweetness? Yeah,

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00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: the sweetness. I think Walter Payton already took that nack. Yeah,

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00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: my questions for you, but particularly for brain brother. Mister brother. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it's a bitterly it's more a draft show question.

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00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: What lesson this year? This regular season's book? I'd like

832
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: to know what are your evaluations compared to last year

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00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: of feature of our five s starters on the offensive

834
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: line I respectively, do you think the Cowboys we will

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00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: spend a high draft round draft pick on a guard

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00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: or tackle next year to insert as a guard as

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Speaker 1: a left guard or a swing tackle, and or to

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00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: go separate ways with alignment Green or Cooper. From a

839
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: point of view year in France, Jonathan Cooper is just

840
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: coming along and he's showing flashes of what of what

841
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: he was at the college level and why he was

842
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: the first ten draft choice in two thousand thirteen. To finish,

843
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: I'm the opposite to a friend, David. I mean, I'm

844
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: an optimistic man. Cowboys will tomb in the tournament and

845
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: will be extremely differ We thankful picking Michael have a

846
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:09,959
Speaker 1: great day and happy day Cowboys. It's not a shot

847
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: because it's true. Like I mean, I'm a miserable back.

848
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: I wonder what he qualifies as a high pick, meaning

849
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, first three round about how about

850
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: Chaz Green level up one? Could I think that's a necessity. Yeah, well,

851
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: that's that's something I'm fascinating. Now let me ask you this.

852
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: I'll think they can go higher than that, though. Do

853
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: they go do they go the tackle or they go

854
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: the guard? That entirely depends on Jonathan Cooper. I would

855
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: take a tackle that can play guard, I think honestly,

856
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: and then he can go play tackle. We've been talking

857
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: a lot about Anthony Hitchins in the last couple of

858
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: weeks because I mean people, I think people are starting

859
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: to realize that he's going to be a tough guy

860
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: to hold onto. Given how he's been playing. Jonathan Cooper

861
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: has been playing great. But am I wrong to feel

862
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: a sense of optimism that they can bring him back

863
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: next year? Jonathan Cooper, you consider every I mean, his

864
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: injury history, the last of success that he's had at

865
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: other places. I think he is a smart guy and

866
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: he probably knows that the talent of this line helps

867
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: him in that regard. This is this is where I

868
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: look at this. I would say, those many teams that

869
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: need offensive lineman, you think there will be a good

870
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 1: market for him, you better get while the getting's good. Yeah,

871
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I mean, I'm not

872
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: saying it's a break your bank deal, but I'm saying

873
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: it's a deal where he goes and he could be

874
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 1: a starter here, You're right, but he could also maybe

875
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: go somewhere and be a starter and make more money.

876
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: You think he'd be willing to make less money working

877
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: between Tyrn Smith and Travis Frederick. I don't think so.

878
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: I play I want not in this day and age

879
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: at the end of At the end of the day,

880
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: it depends on the dollar amount. Like if he just

881
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: gets this amazing offer, obviously he's going to take that.

882
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: But I'm so bad at projecting this, But like, what

883
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: do you like dollars per year? What do you think

884
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: he could get like five million a year Ron Learry

885
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: type money. I would be shocked to see that. Well,

886
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: Ron Learry has a worse medical condition than he does.

887
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: But Ron Learry also had a longer, stronger resume. When

888
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: he came up on unrestricted free agency, Ron Larry was

889
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: a undrafted free agent. Yeah, but he had three years

890
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: years starting experience of high caliber starting experience. Cooper has

891
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: less than one three years, ten million there it is done.

892
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: What you're saying three three million a year, it's what

893
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: you're saying. Would you give Cooper that? How much money guaranteed? Okay?

894
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: How about not? I'll play this game with you. I

895
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: would give Cooper three to ten if that's I mean,

896
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: if that got it done? What if that? What if

897
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: that's what exactly? What? What if that's exactly what it

898
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: takes to get Anti Hitchens done? Three ten? That would

899
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: be that would surprise me? Okay, but what would you

900
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: sign him up? Right now? Yeah, I'll take Hitchens and

901
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: I'll find a guard. Yeah, I agree, Okay, that's that's

902
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: my I'm just trying to make it in the bank

903
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: to sign Okay, what if it what if it was

904
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: what if it was more than that? What if it

905
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: was three years, fifteen million dollars? I'm out talking for Hitch,

906
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: for Hitch and for the guard. Still Hitchens? I think

907
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: it's still Hitchings. But I am I crazy. I think

908
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: Hitchens is gonna get more than that. See, we thought

909
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: the same thing about I know, you told me that yesterday,

910
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: and you told me that yesterday. Yeah, we thought the

911
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: same thing generally with you know these guys, sometimes you

912
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: get lucky. I mean, they've got lucky with some guys.

913
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: I think though looking at looking at Jonathan Cooper, he's

914
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: proven the people that he can play. I think that's

915
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: where that is. You know, I would like to bring

916
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: him back if the cost is right, and if you don't,

917
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: then I think Garden should certainly be a top one

918
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: hundred pick for this team. I mean, I don't the

919
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: offensive line is the key to this whole thing. I

920
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: don't think you can just take let that fall to chance.

921
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: That's an interesting discussion because you say, you can say,

922
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: on one hand, you got three pro all pro guys,

923
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: and on the other hand, you say, well, you need

924
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: to make this your strength. He might stocking that thing up. Yeah,

925
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean, can you find a guy in the third

926
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: round that's going to step in and be a one.

927
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,479
Speaker 1: They've tried that and it hasn't always worked. David Arkin

928
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: years ago. Third round? Sure, fourth round? I don't know.

929
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's never a guarantee. Cooper, you know,

930
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: can play, and you're gonna need You're gonna need some

931
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: sort of bridge, and I don't think that bridge is

932
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: on the team right now. Would you feel good about

933
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: Joe Looney playing guard. If they felt good about Joe Looney,

934
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: they would have given him more of an opportunity to

935
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: do it. Like he was never really part of that discussion.

936
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: I mean, let's yeah, but they made the mistake at

937
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: trying Chaz Green there. Well, they invested a third round

938
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: pick and Chad he didn't do bad until he got hurt.

939
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: Who chats? Yeah, I remember that's how he lost the job.

940
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: He got hurt. He was the starter. Yeah, no, I

941
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: just what you call that? Brian? And you think you

942
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 1: had a name for that? Did I? The Aaron Donald Flew? Yeah, yeah,

943
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: something to that, right, Yeah, all right, let's let's let's

944
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: go to the Twitter poll of the day. Oh we

945
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: got one. I didn't forget about it. This kind of

946
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: plays off Brian's final one of his final two stories

947
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: on the website today leading into Cowboys Raiders the biggest

948
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: key to Sunday's game. These are all the basics that

949
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: I've got here, four of them. Run the ball, stop

950
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: the run, protect Dak or pressure Derek Carr. What do

951
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: they have to do the most to win this game?

952
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,959
Speaker 1: Get out of Oakland with the win and stay alive

953
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: in the playoff race. Mickey, protect Dak that's been your

954
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: biggest key to this two game winning streak, right, and

955
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: it was the biggest key to the three game losing

956
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: streak they didn't. Yeah, gave up fourteen sacks in three games,

957
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: gave up one sack in two games. David, I mean

958
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: Brian laid it out for you, right. I mean it's

959
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: it's Mack and Irvin, right, Yeah, that's that's Those are

960
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: the two guys that give me the most amount of

961
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: pause in this whole thing. I mean, they can wreck

962
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: this whole thing. So yeah, protect Dac and I think

963
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 1: the rest of it will take care of itself. Honestly,

964
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: I agree with you guys. However, the fans don't. The

965
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: eighteen percent said protect Dac. Number one was the seven

966
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: run the ball and thirty five percent pressure Car. Yeah,

967
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: they're all important. See the thing about it is Car

968
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: doesn't generally face pressure. The sack numbers and stuff like

969
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: that are really low from him, So that must mean

970
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: they get the ball out quick. Yeah, Because their offensive

971
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: line hasn't been that good. Yeah, they well, they've they've

972
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: got some Pro Bowl players on that line, but the

973
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: problem that they've had is the receivers have been bad.

974
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: And I agree with David and Mickey on the protection part.

975
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: The thing that scares me the most is their ability

976
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: to say, you know what, you're not good enough stopping

977
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 1: the run with Sean Lee and with the Anthony Hitchins,

978
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: even though we all know that's a great combination for them,

979
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 1: I worry about them seeing we've got a big offensive line.

980
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna try and mash you. We're gonna play you know,

981
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: had on had football, and let's see if you can

982
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: step up and stop Marshawn Lunch one of these games. Well,

983
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: they haven't shown that they can do that on a

984
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: consistent basis. They run the ball very well on second down.

985
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: That's been a big run for them. They're they're a

986
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: really good passing team on first down. Though they get

987
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: like seven yards a shot, they don't really run the ball.

988
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: I think it's only three point two on first down running.

989
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: It's when they get into second and third down, I

990
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: think it's average about five point five a carry. So

991
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: you got to kind of, you know, I said one

992
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: of my points down the Xerox thing was win on

993
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: early downs because you get him the third down there.

994
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: They're a pretty good third down team. So I'm saying Okay,

995
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: how do you get him off the field. That's gonna

996
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: be problematic. You better find a way to not let

997
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: them mash that ball at you. But you know, Mickey's right,

998
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: they just haven't been I think I think your offense

999
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: is the best chance to win this game from the

1000
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: standpoint of make them have to score with you, because

1001
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: they've had trouble doing that. They're tied for twenty six

1002
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: and rushing offense, so somebody has stopped him. Yeah, but

1003
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: that's because I think a lot of times they're behind

1004
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: in games. Well, maybe they don't try. Yea, Marshawn still

1005
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: looks like the same guy to me. I mean he's

1006
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 1: gotten better too. I think these last month he's look better.

1007
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: He has. I mean, yeah, it hasn't been like as

1008
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: amazing as they probably thought it would be. We didn't

1009
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: go out there and pop him in the chops right away, Okay,

1010
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: it is at him. No, he's not the bully. Yeah,

1011
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 1: but he can bully you. Oh no, yeah, I agree,

1012
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: you can bully you. But I think we're all in agreement.

1013
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: If they don't protect Dak and score points, Yeah, they're

1014
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: not gonna win a game twenty to seventeen. You have

1015
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: to take. You have to take that ability for them

1016
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: to eat. You know, they're gonna again, They're gonna throw

1017
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: the fall. Maybe they come back and say, you know what,

1018
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: teams that have had success against Dallas have done what

1019
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: They've put pressure on Dak Prescott and they've also run

1020
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, that's you know, I feel like that

1021
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: to me, You're right that the strength of the Raiders

1022
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: is their ability to rush the passer. The next best

1023
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: thing I think would be car throwing the football. And

1024
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: then hey, but that's take But that's taken them out

1025
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: of games. But does anybody run the football when Sean

1026
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: Lee has been on the field. That's gonna be the trick.

1027
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the trick. We'll go find five losses

1028
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: or with Hitchens on the field. Well, Denver ran the

1029
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: ball pretty well when they played that was the one. Yeah.

1030
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if they've played an offensive line that's

1031
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: his big big as this offensive line is before they

1032
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: played some good offensive line. Philadelphia is a more athletic

1033
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: offensive line in a more mobile offensive line. But this

1034
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: is a very This offensive line is very similar to

1035
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys had when they were winning Super Bowls

1036
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 1: in the nineties. Before the season, this Raiders offensive line

1037
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: was in the discussion with the Cowboys, or maybe right

1038
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: after the Cowboys in Tennessee. Yeah, besto lines in the league. Yeah. Well,

1039
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: the guy covering this team in Oakland didn't think much

1040
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: of the play of the offensive line because at least

1041
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: three of the five were listed as disappointments. Yeah, in

1042
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: the analysis, I think that that's where you look at

1043
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: this though, is there's so much there was so much

1044
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: hope put on the Raiders with their offense, with their

1045
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: offensive line. It was such an explosive with the receivers.

1046
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: They go out and get Lynch, you know, Hey, we're

1047
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: gonna run the football. We're gonna be more balanced, you know,

1048
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: and not put at all on car which they tend

1049
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: to do anyway. And now the offensive coordinators under fire. Yeah,

1050
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: but they got rid of Bill Musgrave too, though, didn't they. Yeah.

1051
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: When Bill Musgrave in place, they've they've made a couple

1052
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: of diff This is real, I think, Yeah, yeah, wild

1053
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: the similarities between these two No, you're right. Yeah, the numbers,

1054
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: the numbers just expectations, expectations versus reality. Offensive lines, skull players,

1055
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: offensive lines, defensive Hey, you know, brilliant head coach got

1056
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: stupid in one year. Yeah, and and how both of

1057
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: them still are not out of this thing and their

1058
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: respective conferences or divisions not yet. At least they're one

1059
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: game back. Yeah. Now it's two teams, but one game. Yeah,

1060
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: and they play they play one of the teams in

1061
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: the season. They play the Chargers, Chargers who you know,

1062
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: they've Chargers got a huge game in Kansas City tomorrow night.

1063
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: It's going to be a dramatic three weeks stretch here.

1064
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: I think, I think, so you win this, you win

1065
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: this game. Now you've you've you've you've got, you know

1066
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: you got. You set the stage. All bets are off, man,

1067
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah you do, you got. Now you take your chances.

1068
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: You get Ezekiel guy bat right over here, right back

1069
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: on Monday. Yep. Yeah, And you hope he walks in

1070
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: with a purpose, you know, if if it if it

1071
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: turns in to again, if they lose this game, I'm

1072
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: not play him. This is like the last climb up

1073
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: the hill. Yeah, you're so happy to hear you say that.

1074
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: If if they're out, I'm sitting all my Pro bowlers.

1075
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: I don't care if that's like bad sportsmanship or whatever. No,

1076
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: I just you know, let's prepare for eighteen if that's

1077
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: the case. You know, And coaches don't want to hear

1078
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: that from me. They don't scouts don't want to helve.

1079
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: The NBA players don't want to hear it either. About well,

1080
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: but it's not tanking, it's just I'm worried about unnecessary

1081
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: guys getting unecessarily hurt. It's asset management as well. Yeah,

1082
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to go into twenty eighteen like Carson

1083
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: Wentz when that's gonna take you know, Yeah, that's gonna be.

1084
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 1: That's questions that when we when we get to June

1085
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: and get to July, what are the questions gonna be?

1086
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: Win's Carson Wentz? Every day we're gonna get Carson's Wentz

1087
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: report on him rehabbing. Right, you don't want to take that.

1088
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to take that. Well, they're not to

1089
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: that point yet and they still need to keep an

1090
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: eye on the other teams on this playoff bubble. So

1091
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: before we get out of here real quick, the other

1092
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: matchups at the Cowboys of interest to the Boys. You're

1093
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: two current wildcard teams, Carolina playing at home against Aaron

1094
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: Rodgers and green Bay. Let's go. That's must cy TV.

1095
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what that might be. You need to

1096
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: pack win there. If now I think about it, Carolina

1097
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: needs to have two losses, right or they need they

1098
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: need you have a better chance of Minnesota going to

1099
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: Green Bay and winning in week sixteen. Then if if

1100
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: Carolina loses, yeah, Art's losing. Yeah, then that first wild

1101
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 1: card's not cemented, right because right now everybody's saying, oh, Carolina,

1102
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: I got one. You're playing for just the last week.

1103
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: I am. I am hopeful that Green Bay will lose

1104
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: to Minnesota and Detroit to to end the year. Maybe

1105
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: you need them to win against Carolina to get them

1106
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 1: out of that fifth seat. I ain't. I ain't betting

1107
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: against Aaron Rodgers, especially in the NFCA North. Maybe he's

1108
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: not losing to Detroit. He's just not. He doesn't do that.

1109
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 1: Could lose, he could lose to Minnesota, could lose to Minnesota,

1110
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: could get hit once and he's done. That's straight too, yep.

1111
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: But no'll think about that, Carolina, you maybe you need

1112
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: to get them out of this. I just have so

1113
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: much respect for Aaron Rodgers, like he's he's a zombie,

1114
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: like you gotta put the nail in that coffin. I

1115
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: want the Packer loss. Okay, if you get a Carolina win,

1116
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: that gives them ten. Yeah, that's that's that's the fifth seed.

1117
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: Now you're playing for the sixth. I'm conceding the fifth

1118
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: seed to Carolina. Like that's the spot there, Carolina or

1119
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: New Orleans? Right? Yeah, New Orleans is playing at home

1120
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: against the Jets. I'm conceding whoever, whoever is the runner

1121
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: up in the South, I'm conceding that spot to them.

1122
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 1: I'm fighting Atlanta and Green Bay for the sixth seed.

1123
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: Teams you've lost to. Yeah, that's why I need them

1124
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: losing games. Atlanta's eight and five, so you could technically

1125
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: say it's a two game lead on the Cowboys because

1126
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: of the head to head they play at Tampa Bay.

1127
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: They've currently got the last wildcard spot. Then you go

1128
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: down to the teams off the bubble. Right now, Cowboys

1129
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: included Seahawks at home against the Rams, Lions at seven

1130
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: and six at home against the Bears, and we saw

1131
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: Packers against Panthers, and that Bears game is tomorrow afternoon too, right, Yeah,

1132
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: there's some Saturday games. Yeah, one we're gonna watch on

1133
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: the plane while we're flying. You're not it's nice of you.

1134
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: Not nice of you to think we'll have that ability. Yeah,

1135
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: well we can always hope. But see, Atlanta's got a

1136
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: tough they gotta they've been they are all Division games,

1137
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: New Orleans and Carolina. Yep, it's doable. It's not likely,

1138
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: but it's doable. It's just likely enough that it's worth

1139
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: talking about. Lloyd Christmas Man and see telling me there's

1140
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: a chance if you if you beat Seattle, they got

1141
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: to play the Rams. Yeah, they could lose two more,

1142
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: sure they could. I looked at it on you know

1143
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: five thirty eight does those projections. It's at four percent

1144
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: right now. But if you pencil in the Cowboys for

1145
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: three wins, I know that's a big projection. So what

1146
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: does the percentage go out? It jumps to basically like

1147
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: forty five fifty percent. Like it's way if they if

1148
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: they've went out, it's not that improbable. And seeing what

1149
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: I was telling you yesterday about the tiebreakers, that strength

1150
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: ofctory if they win out, their strength of bricktery is

1151
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: gonna go through the ceiling, right because you would have

1152
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: beaten Philadelphia Seattle and watch it come down and the

1153
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: raider Philadelphia gets well, yeah, you go on that trip.

1154
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: If it comes to that man, you absolutely will. Happy

1155
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: New Year, do you guys? First up, you gotta handle

1156
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: your business against Oakland on the road Sunday night football.

1157
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: You gotta win. We'll save it for Gutfield. The website,

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Speaker 1: check in who you Got Cowboys twenty six seventeen. There

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Speaker 1: you go. Thanks to Kid for producing. We'll see you guys.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the game. We'll talk to you Monday on the

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