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Speaker 1: Bunker Draft. I've seen more than one email about that.

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Speaker 1: not implementing it in person, You're not implementing it at

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Speaker 1: the earliest until training camp. And that is how many

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Speaker 1: times have you heard these coaches and players. If you

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Speaker 1: were to go back last year and listen to everything

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Speaker 1: that was said about Greg Roman and the new offense

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Speaker 1: and implementing it during the off season, and how that

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Speaker 1: was a gradual process and there was hiccups at this

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Speaker 1: point last year, and how it's a it's a slow bill.

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Speaker 1: Well now new teams are gonna have to do that

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Speaker 1: in four weeks. Yep. Yeah, that's that's a huge disadvantage

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Speaker 1: for everybody else, an advantage for us in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: I think specifically with the Browns, you know, you're also

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Speaker 1: looking to install a whole culture change there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how how do you think a culture change goes over Zoom?

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, I mean, really you're really establishing

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Speaker 1: yourself there as a leader on Zoom, right. Uh. So

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Speaker 1: I think that it's really huge for the Ravens. Obviously everybody,

444
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Speaker 1: ourselves included, were overjoyed, sorry to Wink and Greg that

445
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Speaker 1: they didn't get the jobs, you know, um, just because

446
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Speaker 1: they're excellent, excellent coordinators. Uh. But now in late of

447
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Speaker 1: all of this, I think you take it to a

448
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Speaker 1: whole another level. Uh where the Ravens. You know, they,

449
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Speaker 1: as John Harball said, they virtually have their basically have

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Speaker 1: their playbook done. Now they can send it out to players,

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Speaker 1: and of course there's tweaks and all that stuff, But

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Speaker 1: it's a whole lot better to a whole lot easier

453
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Speaker 1: to adjust the tweaks than a whole system rebuild. So

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Speaker 1: and and quite frankly, I just have faith in the

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Speaker 1: Ravens to be able to get ready quicker than other teams,

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Speaker 1: just because of John Harbor and the way he coaches,

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Speaker 1: the way he runs his practices. I just have a

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Speaker 1: lot of faith in them. The only the only evidence

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Speaker 1: that we have is coming back in the lockout. How

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Speaker 1: season go besides the ending, right, pretty darn good, pretty

461
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Speaker 1: darn good started also started really strong win over the

462
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Speaker 1: Steelers to start off that season. Yeah, yeah, so, Um,

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Speaker 1: I think the Ravens will figure it out. Obviously, a

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Speaker 1: lot of that the onus goes on the players themselves,

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Speaker 1: and I've seen a lot of of good signs that

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Speaker 1: they're taking that seriously. I think they have a good

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Speaker 1: mixture of vets and younger guys to kind of keep

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Speaker 1: everybody in line and make sure everybody's on the right

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Speaker 1: path and doing what they need to do. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's not just a bunch of young guys who maybe

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Speaker 1: whatever don't have their priorities in order exactly right, Um,

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Speaker 1: we see Lamar Jackson playing a lot of street ball.

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Speaker 1: That's good. If anyone, If anyone challenges him to a

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Speaker 1: game of street ball where he's wearing his slides, look out. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I I also think that teams that have an identity

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Speaker 1: both in terms of culture and xos and o's are

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Speaker 1: just at such an advantage. And the Ravens have a

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Speaker 1: clear identity for who they are what they want to be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let me say this is what scares me the most.

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Speaker 1: What scares me is the possibility of not having a

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Speaker 1: season at all. Well obviously, well I'm saying particularly in

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Speaker 1: reference to the Ravens. I mean, sure, if you're the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: of course you want a season, but you're in rebuild

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Speaker 1: mood with the first year quarterback. Now, you know, first

485
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Speaker 1: year quarterback all that, that's an important year. But I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying the Ravens are super Bowl contenders. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. And I don't want to

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Speaker 1: spend too much time talking about it because the idea

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Speaker 1: of it depresses me. And I do think that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a season. I think that we will have

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Speaker 1: a season. I think that it may look different. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, is there any portion that's played

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Speaker 1: without fans? I don't know, but I think that obviously

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Speaker 1: anything is on the table. You hear what the you know,

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Speaker 1: you hear what the NBA and Major League Baseball and

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Speaker 1: NHL are looking at, you know, playing games in a

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Speaker 1: centralized location, you know, in like Arizona, like Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: Talk about anyway, Um, the idea of losing a year

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Speaker 1: of Lamar Jack's and right now is depressing, terrifying. He

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Speaker 1: is he is so good, so fun to watch, uh

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Speaker 1: in his prime, in his third season, and the idea

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Speaker 1: of losing a year that is depressing. So we're not

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Speaker 1: gonna spend much time talking about that. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: I'll say one thing. You think I complained about things?

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Speaker 1: Now if I have to go through this whole thing

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Speaker 1: with no light at the end of the tunnel, Oh,

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Speaker 1: buckle up, big boy. All right? This question from Kyle

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Speaker 1: Big fans of years and I appreciate this content during

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Speaker 1: these crazy times. Question, all signs are pointing to a

510
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Speaker 1: digital draft, which the NFL has said that's going to

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Speaker 1: be the case. How will this affect Eric to Costa

512
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Speaker 1: and co. In terms of assessing the board, getting in

513
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Speaker 1: the pics and all that technology is great, but this

514
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Speaker 1: will be a huge change in what we normally see

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Speaker 1: on draft weekend. Still looking forward to the draft and

516
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Speaker 1: all the content surrounding it. Keep up the great work. Also,

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Speaker 1: he says, the Bunker draft had me cracking up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what was the cons on? What was the cockroach comparison

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00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: on the Oh? Yeah? Um yeah, I mean it certainly

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Speaker 1: will be different. Um. You know, I wrote today in

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Speaker 1: a story about how this is all impacting the Ravens

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Speaker 1: draft process, and it it just hit me. It dont

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Speaker 1: on me. Last year all the talk about well, you know,

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Speaker 1: Eric is still gonna sit in his same seat, and

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Speaker 1: Ozz he's gonna be right next to him, and here's

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Speaker 1: where John's gonna be and Steve, you know, in orchestrating

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Speaker 1: where everybody sits at the table. Well that's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be the case this year. I mean it is interesting

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Speaker 1: because I will say that the Ravens are such a

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Speaker 1: collaborative unit and they work part of what has has

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Speaker 1: been you know, part of their draft success is that

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Speaker 1: everybody plays a role in that draft room, right, and

533
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Speaker 1: they work so well in concert and upsetting that does

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Speaker 1: concern me a little bit. What conserves me more is

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Speaker 1: Eric to Cossa's internet connection that we had on the

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Speaker 1: pre draft concert. It's even worse than yours, worse than mine.

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Speaker 1: He must be paying, he must be playing paying for

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Speaker 1: that starter playing like me. Um. So once you get

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Speaker 1: Eric boost it up, that will be I won't be

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00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: used to worried. Yeah, I mean you joke about it

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Speaker 1: and it that that is funny. But like technology, everyone's

542
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: dealing with it, and how many times have you been

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Speaker 1: on FaceTime or a zoom call or whatever, and just

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00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: personally professionally for the listeners in the past three weeks

545
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Speaker 1: where something's gone wrong or the audio doesn't work or

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Speaker 1: also someone's every single time exactly. So like that makes

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Speaker 1: me a little nervous. I will be honest, that makes

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Speaker 1: me a little bit nervous. I have to think that

549
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: they'll just have a backup call in your pick, not video,

550
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: none of that crap. Just dial a phone number. Yeah,

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00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure in terms of getting the actual

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Speaker 1: pick in. But like if you're trying to have a

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Speaker 1: conversation between her ball Sebashoti, Azzy, Eric and Jortis all

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Speaker 1: the same time, and there's a trade stability taking place,

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00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: like you always talk about how it's crazy, and there

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Speaker 1: one guy's working the phones talking to other teams. Like

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00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: that's already hectic, and and you know it's gonna be

558
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: challenging not to be able to do that. So I

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Speaker 1: wonder if that will affect trades. Are there less trades

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Speaker 1: because they're harder? Actually, yeah, that's what I was just

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Speaker 1: gonna say. I wonder if Eric then is gonna be

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Speaker 1: flying a little more solo, uh, in terms of sifting

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Speaker 1: through all that and deciding whether it's worthwhile or not.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, it would have been a good question

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Speaker 1: for the pre draft conference. You know, maybe let's run

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Speaker 1: that back. We'll ask that question. Um, all right, here's

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00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: too quick. Uh. Emails that have come in from Frank

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Speaker 1: can bean's mink on pizza? Stop it stop sifting just

569
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Speaker 1: for the ones in your in your favor, they just stop.

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Speaker 1: I mean these runs jumped out can beans on pizza.

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Speaker 1: Only fancy mank with his bidet would pick beans. He

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Speaker 1: left another draft. Congrats Garret Tuna is what make thought

573
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: beans were? I think this just really speaks to, uh,

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Speaker 1: the difference here, Like Frank said, you are a one

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Speaker 1: per center that has a been day. I am a

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Speaker 1: man of the people and I draft that way, and

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Speaker 1: so to say that I lost his draft, that just

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00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: is an example of you don't understand what people need.

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Speaker 1: During the draft. You're sitting here thinking, oh, I got

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00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: my bid day. That is something that most people aren't

581
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: worried about. You gotta worry about the the essentials. And

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Speaker 1: that's what I took care of in my draft. Essentials.

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00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: You took toilet paper. That's not essentials. Like like you're

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Speaker 1: talking essentials. Just go wipe your butt on the grass,

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00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: all right, Like plus I would. I'm surprised about you

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00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: hating all beans. As a man that sits five feet

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Speaker 1: away from you normally, I know you're a fan. Here's

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00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: another here's another one. Frozen pizza make Yeah, you may

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Speaker 1: survive the apocalypse. However, your kids, you're for me knocking

590
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: on Gallon's bunker door. How anybody that hates on pizza

591
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: just throw out their opinion right now we have about this. Yeah,

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00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: you seem to forget the dozens of emails. In my favor,

593
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Speaker 1: Mink is the easy winner of this draft. If you

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Speaker 1: get ramen, noodles and pizza and coffee, you have to win.

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Speaker 1: I think that one might have been gone straight to

596
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Speaker 1: my spam filter filter. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Here's another one.

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00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 1: First things first, Ryan won the Bunker draft unanimously. And

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Speaker 1: this isn't a mink Burner account. There's almost one thing.

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00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: We already read that one. Now you're double reading emails.

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Speaker 1: You're so desperate to try to win this staft that

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Speaker 1: you're double reading emails that are in your favor. I

602
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: think this is a Here's here's another one. You read

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Speaker 1: an email from Jesse Niederburger, but you left out the

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Speaker 1: part where he said I have a hard time picking

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Speaker 1: a winner, but on the strength of pizza, ramen and coffee,

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Speaker 1: I go with Mike. Well, I think actually Jesse sent

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Speaker 1: sent two emails. Uh, because yeah, he did the double email.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, at this point, you're double

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Speaker 1: reading emails to try to make it a victory for

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Speaker 1: you at best. Here it's a split. At best, dude,

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Speaker 1: you need to concede. I'm off the Schneide baby. All right, So, uh,

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Speaker 1: before we wrap up, we want to share some things

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Speaker 1: that we have coming up with you guys. As we mentioned,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna make having the podcast go from three days

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Speaker 1: a week or from five days a week to three

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Speaker 1: days a week. Later, up coming up on Friday, we're

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Speaker 1: going to be joined by Mel Kiper. We've got it

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Speaker 1: on the books, finally booked it minute and the books.

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Speaker 1: It's on the calendar. It's official. We've got that schedule,

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Speaker 1: so don't worry. That is coming to you on Friday.

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Speaker 1: And then also next week we're gonna have Daniel Jeremiah,

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Speaker 1: So we're getting the big guns for the draft experts

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Speaker 1: before the draft. Um, it'll be interesting to talk about

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Speaker 1: with them about what they think this draft is gonna

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Speaker 1: look like for the Ravens. And also i'd be curious

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Speaker 1: to hear from them how they're preparing for it, knowing

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Speaker 1: that they're just like everyone else. They're gonna be broadcasting

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Speaker 1: from their house for the you know, three days period

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Speaker 1: of the draft. Well here's what said, though, is that

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Speaker 1: Mel has declined to do video for it, which really

631
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Speaker 1: bumps me out because I would love to see Mel

632
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Speaker 1: Kiper with his hair down. I think he just didn't

633
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Speaker 1: want to, but there's no way that Mel has his

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Speaker 1: hair down. I think he just was like, if I

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Speaker 1: do video, does that mean I have to look at

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Speaker 1: you for the interview. I'm that was a terrible I'm

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Speaker 1: out all right, So we'll be back with you guys tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We're doing Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday this week. So thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for listening, uh, and we will be back

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Speaker 1: with you tomorrow