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<v Speaker 2>Busy hour ahead as always, as we continue to bask

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<v Speaker 2>in the afterglow of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft Hall,

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<v Speaker 3>With US will have a draft review of all the picks.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been watching film deep into the film room, digging

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<v Speaker 2>deep on these nine Jaguars draft picks, including Travis Hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>You might have heard of him. He'll play both ways

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<v Speaker 2>for the Jaguars. The impact he has already made on

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<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars organization and he's barely stepped foot on campus.

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<v Speaker 2>And Phase two of the off season program is underway

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<v Speaker 2>for the veterans.

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<v Speaker 3>They've been out on.

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<v Speaker 2>J P. Shadrick with the aforementioned Jeff Lagaman, good afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>good afternoon, it's up. It's all good man. What one

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<v Speaker 2>week after yeah, exactly one week Yeah at what an

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<v Speaker 2>exciting night that was. I mean it was pretty incredible

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<v Speaker 2>and h and I hope I didn't make anybody nervous

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<v Speaker 2>because when we had BISSELLI on, he said what do

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<v Speaker 2>you guys want to do? And you said jenty, and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, trade up and get Travis Hunter.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I said Jenny, I was like, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The Hunter's not going to be there, and well they

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<v Speaker 2>trade up, you know, right, So that's why I picked Jenny. Sure, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean until I get it. But you just said it.

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<v Speaker 2>I said it, but I didn't know it. So people

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<v Speaker 2>were like wondering, I mean, did you know? And I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea. I need to go back and

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<v Speaker 2>watch Facili's reacting reaction. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest with you, probably a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a subtle surprised look. Probably, I

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<v Speaker 2>bet if you if you looked real close, there's probably

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<v Speaker 2>a video evidence. Well, and then the crazy thing is

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<v Speaker 2>is that you know we were kind of all hanging around.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I can't remember who, which NFL scoop guy

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<v Speaker 2>has it, schefter or whoever says, you know, there's talk

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<v Speaker 2>of a trade maybe happened between the Cleveland Browns and

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<v Speaker 2>the Jacksonville Jaguars. And I said, to your kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>And sure enough we went to Brian Sext and Brian

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<v Speaker 2>Sexton in Green Bay said he was here in whispers

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<v Speaker 2>at the draft and we're like, oh, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>So when all of a sudden, the Tennessee Titans on

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<v Speaker 2>the clock, Me and Frank Franz you'd do on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and Frank's talking about, you know, the draft and the Titans.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, look, you know, let's make sure people

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<v Speaker 2>are aware. Don't go get a beer or go get

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<v Speaker 2>a sandwich, because when the Tennessee Titans are done here,

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<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars could be on the clock if this trade

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<v Speaker 2>does in fact go through. And sure enough it did.

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<v Speaker 2>It was exciting. It's fascinating to hear the aftermath. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Silver was here from the Athletic New York Times,

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<v Speaker 2>longtime national writer in the NFL, and he was entrenched

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<v Speaker 2>in the draft room. Oh yeah, all weekend including that,

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<v Speaker 2>and had the story that night of the trade and

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<v Speaker 2>everything that went into it, and from his article, basically

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<v Speaker 2>they had the general deal in place seventeen days before

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<v Speaker 2>the draft, that nobody let it out, which is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's this day and age, that's that not delete. That's

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<v Speaker 2>truly amazing, and it all hinged. And I'm the Titan.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder how many people actually knew about that. I

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<v Speaker 2>bet you know what I mean exactly, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're talking about seventeen days, I mean there's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a new general manager, and look, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>trying to make any accusations, but when you come into

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<v Speaker 2>a building with a regime that's been in place for

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<v Speaker 2>a while, I mean, look, there's a handful of people

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<v Speaker 2>that you're willing to trust, and so you want to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that there's only a few ears that actually

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<v Speaker 2>know of what your plans are. And so I mean

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<v Speaker 2>give credit to two organizations, one James Gladstone and the

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<v Speaker 2>Jacksonville Jaguars for keeping it quiet, and then also the

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<v Speaker 2>Cleveland Browns also as well. So and look, I can

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<v Speaker 2>tell you this, Travis Hunter, if you're a fisherman, be

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<v Speaker 2>glad you're not going to Cleveland and be extremely excited

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<v Speaker 2>that you're I'm in too, Jacksonville, because you have found

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<v Speaker 2>an off season of paradise. Apparently it all hinged on

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<v Speaker 2>the Titans and when they confirmed they were making a

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<v Speaker 2>pick at one and not trading out pretty much was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the quarterback, and that they were not

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<v Speaker 2>selecting Travis himself. If there was going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>trade there, then all of a sudden, cam Ward could

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<v Speaker 2>have fallen into two, the Browns would have taken him

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<v Speaker 2>there and the deal would have been off. So right,

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<v Speaker 2>the deal is in and Travis Hunter is in as well. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go through all the picks tonight, logs. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got a whole hour to do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the number one story, of course, really a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of ways in this draft was Travis Hunter. He's

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<v Speaker 2>number one in Jersey sales of rookies so far since

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<v Speaker 2>the draft. By the way, I think that's changed now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Sanders has surpassed him.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Okay, there's no guarantee shoot makes it.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, No, No, I mean it's that's a

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<v Speaker 2>whole other topic right there. Legendary. Yes, I'm gonna start

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<v Speaker 2>dropping that word at the end of everything that I

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<v Speaker 2>from now.

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<v Speaker 3>On surprised he coming with JP.

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<v Speaker 2>How about you know da da da legendary. Yeah, what'll

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<v Speaker 2>be doing? I don't know, man, But Travis Hunter, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna let him play both ways, try it out

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<v Speaker 2>wide receiver and then put him in at dB some

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<v Speaker 2>see how it goes this off season and then reassessed.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got a full plan in place from meeting times

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<v Speaker 2>and schedule and practice and all these things, but it's fluid,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it has to be. And so the

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<v Speaker 2>one thing I appreciate, first of all, I think James

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<v Speaker 2>Gladstone is a very smart man. Let me just get

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<v Speaker 2>that out of the way. But to go into this

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<v Speaker 2>and some of the things that he said, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he put some lofty expectations out there on Travis, which

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<v Speaker 2>you know understandably, so I mean, they have a very

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<v Speaker 2>high belief in him. But I give him credit to

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<v Speaker 2>because he said that, you know, we have a plan

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<v Speaker 2>in place, but he's not so arrogant to say that

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<v Speaker 2>we know everything. And what I loved is that he said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but it's fluid because this is ever been

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<v Speaker 2>done before. And let's get him in the building. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of see how things go and then you adjust accordingly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've just thought that that was it was very

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<v Speaker 2>smart to say that, because you know, at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, you're not sure yet. Nobody's ever done this,

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<v Speaker 2>You've never been around him, you don't know the makeup,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know the physical demands of you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>a professional athlete versus college it's it's different. So that

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<v Speaker 2>part of it I respected highly.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go through each side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you've dug it on tape on Travis Hunter

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<v Speaker 2>over the last week or so, especially, Let's start on offense,

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<v Speaker 2>where he will really kind of begin the bulk of

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<v Speaker 2>his time and what stands out the most to you

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<v Speaker 2>when you go back and into the film room and

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<v Speaker 2>watch Travis Hunter on the offensive side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>I said this to James when we had him on

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<v Speaker 2>our radio show the night of the draft, and was

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<v Speaker 2>being totally honest, and I think I might have said

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<v Speaker 2>this to you in the weeks leading up to the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the most effortless athlete that I have ever watched

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<v Speaker 2>on film. He just makes everything look easy. And James

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<v Speaker 2>actually used the term he's got incredible grace, very graceful,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought that that was another great accurate way

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<v Speaker 2>of describing him. But he makes things look easy, just

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<v Speaker 2>the body control that he has as a wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 2>the speed, the ball skills that he has, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>making catches it, you know, and I'm here to tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was kind of nice to Shader Sanders leading

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<v Speaker 2>up to the draft because I just wasn't a big

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<v Speaker 2>fan of him. I thought Travis Hunter made him look

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<v Speaker 2>really good at times. And also there was another wide

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<v Speaker 2>receiver at Colorado that's a pretty good one and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know his name, but watching some of the throws

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<v Speaker 2>a chadur Ad. But my point of that is is

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<v Speaker 2>that Travis has ball skills, mad ball skills, and if

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<v Speaker 2>he were on the field full time as an offensive player.

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<v Speaker 2>And in this draft, watching all of the wide receivers

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<v Speaker 2>that I did, I watched the top I think five

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<v Speaker 2>or six guys in the draft, Travis Hunter was by

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<v Speaker 2>far and away the best wide receiver and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even close. Ted McMillan wasn't even in the same neighborhood

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<v Speaker 2>as Travis Hunter as a wide receiver, and pairing him

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<v Speaker 2>with Brian Thomas Junior, I think is just going to

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<v Speaker 2>be an amazing situation for Trevor Lawrence. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to like, certainly on the offense that you mentioned some

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<v Speaker 2>of them about Travis Hunnert. For me, it's in contested

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<v Speaker 2>situations he's covered, but he's not ever covered. He's never covered.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the ball can be the guy could be

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<v Speaker 2>blanketed on him and he's still gonna get hands on

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<v Speaker 2>it at least, I mean, somehow, some way in so

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<v Speaker 2>many different instances. He was able to do that in

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<v Speaker 2>traffic at Colorado. The last time that I watched a

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<v Speaker 2>wide receiver and came away watching the draft film that

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<v Speaker 2>I was as impressed as this was Megatron. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>John Calvin Johnson Detroit Lions. When I was watching him

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<v Speaker 2>at Georgia Tech, and I remember being Brian Sexson and

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<v Speaker 2>at the time I wasn't a big fan of taking

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<v Speaker 2>a wide you know, the wide receivers high and Brian

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<v Speaker 2>and I we were talking about wide receiver or the

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<v Speaker 2>potential top of the draft, and I said, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to consider Calvin Johnson number one and overall and he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well, wait a minute, when did you change

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<v Speaker 2>your mind on that? I said, he's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most incredible athletes I've ever watched, and so and Justin

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<v Speaker 2>Jefferson another guy that was incredible to watch. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you watch Travis, I mean, he's just he's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>similar to Justin Jefferson a little bit in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of ways. But the contested catches or the the circus

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<v Speaker 2>catches that he has, I mean, it's just it's amazing

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<v Speaker 2>to watch. And the body control, it's incredible. And what

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<v Speaker 2>does he run the forty forty yard dash show? I've

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<v Speaker 2>never really seen a time on. Yeah, he never really did,

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<v Speaker 2>Travis Hunter.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you ever did it?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, because when you watch him run, it's he's

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<v Speaker 2>effortless and and he's covering space like like nobody's nobody's business.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to know what he's what's forty together? He

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't run one, didn't do the combine, didn't do the

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<v Speaker 2>pro DA, didn't have to. I don't believe. Hey, as

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<v Speaker 2>fast as he needs check the tape like Dion right

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<v Speaker 2>is legendary, runs as fast as legendary somebody that has

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<v Speaker 2>a right to say legendary.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, sure, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And as a as a defensive back, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>which the Jaguars are talking about kind of working that

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<v Speaker 2>in and I understand because like if I, if I

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<v Speaker 2>had to have a choice between playing him on the

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<v Speaker 2>defensive side of the ball and the offensive side of

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<v Speaker 2>the ball, I would choose offense. When you touch the

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<v Speaker 2>ball potentially seventy times in a season, you have you

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<v Speaker 2>can have a much greater impact on the game versus

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<v Speaker 2>a corner. And because you know, teams can avoid a

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<v Speaker 2>star corner, you know, and in the NFL, teams can

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<v Speaker 2>avoid covering you know, they have to cover him on offense.

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<v Speaker 2>So but as a defensive back, great ball skills obviously

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<v Speaker 2>translate over to the defensive side of the ball as well.

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<v Speaker 2>He never gets tired, he has outstanding ability to cover

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<v Speaker 2>in man, and of course the anticipation and anticipation is incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>But the gap between him and the next best defensive back,

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<v Speaker 2>which in my mind was the guy out of Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't as great as the gap of him and the

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<v Speaker 2>next best wide receiver. But of course a little off

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<v Speaker 2>year for wide receiver too, by what most experts would

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<v Speaker 2>even say, you know, it's a totally different skill set, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's receiver running forward. You have the advantage you

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<v Speaker 2>know where you're going, but at corner you got to

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<v Speaker 2>running backwards. Right now, everybody can do that at a

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<v Speaker 2>high level, and he's able to handle everything with great Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget because I can't remember what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>But on our TV at home, okay, you turn it

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<v Speaker 2>on and it's got this app that it automatically goes

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<v Speaker 2>to because it's a TV, some smart TV, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not smart enough to tell you exactly what happens,

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<v Speaker 2>And so when you turn it on, it goes to

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<v Speaker 2>this Samsung channels, right, And for some reason, it's on

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<v Speaker 2>like some NFL programming and it's Daniel Jeremiah and another

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<v Speaker 2>guy and it's a podcast that's being recorded. And I

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<v Speaker 2>respect Daniel Jeremiah. I think he does a great job.

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<v Speaker 2>He does great on the air. His opinions are firm.

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<v Speaker 2>His opinions as a scout I think are solid as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when he talks, I have a tendency to

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<v Speaker 2>listen to some of the stuff that he says. And

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<v Speaker 2>he was talking about being at the workout with Travis

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter and he said, you know, he's doing this whole

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<v Speaker 2>workout thing and he said, all of the guys at

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<v Speaker 2>the prote I guess, And he said, everybody's working out

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody's sweating, you know, because they're working out hard.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, you look over at Travis Hunter and he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing everything that everybody else is doing. There's not even

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<v Speaker 2>a beat a sweat on them, right. I mean, so

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<v Speaker 2>somehow genetically, Travis Hunter has what Lance Armstrong had to

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<v Speaker 2>do illegally to accomplish, right, I mean seriously, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>some people can handle one hundred and forty snaps in

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<v Speaker 2>a game. How many have has ever done that? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you're going back to the nineteen six yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>I mean right in the sixties, it wasn't that many

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<v Speaker 2>different game different game. It wasn't that fast, and they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have as many snaps in the game. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is truly a special athlete that that can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how many people could even think about doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, to play a game with one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty to one hundred and forty snaps and he did

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<v Speaker 2>it all through college inane and I mean there will

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<v Speaker 2>be a lot of eyes, certainly this offseason on rookie

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<v Speaker 2>mini camp in a couple of weeks and then ot

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<v Speaker 2>next weekend yeah, next weekend, and just to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>see what he's doing, when he's doing it, how he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing it. That's a big piece of the off season conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got to come back in a moment though, Logs,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got eight other draft picks. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you've heard about these other guys. I did, and I

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<v Speaker 2>watched them all finished up. Just in fact, just a

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<v Speaker 2>few minutes ago before we went on the air. Monheim

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<v Speaker 2>was the last guy that I watched, the fellow Trojan

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<v Speaker 2>of Tony BASSELI.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get to him a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's you know, he's down in the draft draft

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<v Speaker 2>ladder a little bit. We'll return. We'll discuss Caleb Ranson,

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<v Speaker 2>Whytt Milam in the third round?

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<v Speaker 3>Plenty more ahead, We're.

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<v Speaker 2>On to next lam Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of developed my confidence at a young age

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<v Speaker 4>and start playing football, and I was four olda cuttness,

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<v Speaker 4>so they used to bully me and I was the

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<v Speaker 4>youngest out there playing football with him. So I had

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<v Speaker 4>to get that confidence. I'm not gonna let y'all bully

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<v Speaker 4>me and push me around, So That's just how I

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<v Speaker 4>go about. If I'm not gonna let anybody push me

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<v Speaker 4>ound and tell me what I can't do, I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>go out and show him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Travis Hunter in his introductory press conference the other

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<v Speaker 2>day here at the Midller Electric Center and welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadrick, Jeff Flogoman and Jaguars

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<v Speaker 2>Football is presented by Fresh from Florida. It's always in Season.

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<v Speaker 2>JP Shadrick, Jeff Flogoman. We're at the Hundai Studios of

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<v Speaker 2>the Miller Electric Center on ten Tonight's lam Jaguars dot

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<v Speaker 2>Com and Jaguars YouTube. Travis Hunter talk will dominate the

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<v Speaker 2>off season. That's how that's gonna go. And there's never enough.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get back to him a little bit later coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>There were eight other draft picks. Jags, of course traded

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<v Speaker 2>away their second round pick to move up to get

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<v Speaker 2>Travis Hunter. So they had the early part of Friday

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<v Speaker 2>off just kind of hanging out, relaxing, seeing how the

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<v Speaker 2>board went. Was waiting and waiting and waiting, and then

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, a couple of third round picks

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<v Speaker 2>they had to do some maneuvering to get back up

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<v Speaker 2>for the second of the third round picks. Caleb Ransaw,

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<v Speaker 2>coming from Tulane, started his career at Troy. He's from

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<v Speaker 2>the northern part of the state of Alabama, where he

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<v Speaker 2>went to high school, stayed in state at Troy for

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<v Speaker 2>three years, went on to Tulane. But Ransaw pick number

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<v Speaker 2>eighty eight overall logs. He's not scared to go make contact.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't say that for a lot of cornerbacks. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>see what his position is here. Sounds like it's more

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<v Speaker 2>of a safety style for him here. Yeah, watching his film,

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<v Speaker 2>it was almost exclusively a nickelback his last year in college.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, Nichols in safety's got to tackle a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean at the line of scrimmage near

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<v Speaker 2>the box area, and then they at those positions you've

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<v Speaker 2>got you got to tackle. And one of the surest

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<v Speaker 2>tackling corner slash nickelbacks that I've watched in a number

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<v Speaker 2>of years. I mean, he just doesn't miss many tackles.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's got courage, which not all defensive backs have

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<v Speaker 2>in that role. Does a really good job of staying

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<v Speaker 2>facing the line of scrimmage and attacking things that stay

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<v Speaker 2>in front of him. That's where I think where he

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<v Speaker 2>really excels. Great speed, I mean great speed. Ball skills

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<v Speaker 2>kind of okay, but you know you're not in a

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<v Speaker 2>position to really, you know, in his own type of

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<v Speaker 2>concept to play on a lot of balls, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I like about him the best is just

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<v Speaker 2>the sheer speed and athleticism and the willingness to be

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<v Speaker 2>a physical defender. That part right there will tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that he can play safety, and he also I think

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<v Speaker 2>will split time as a nickel as well. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he can run too. Now, he can run forty inch vertical.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty inch vertical. I like, there's like two guys that

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<v Speaker 2>got forty inch vertical on this team and there may

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<v Speaker 2>be more I'm talking about in the draft class. Crazy

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<v Speaker 2>crazy numbers, But I like him. I think he does

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<v Speaker 2>a good job in coverage. He can play man at

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<v Speaker 2>times when the balls in the air. He doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>those elite ball skills like a Travis Hunter as a

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<v Speaker 2>defensive back, but I mean, not many people do have

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of skill level. Reason they traded another first round, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but I like what they did here because I think

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<v Speaker 2>number one, he's going to be a really strong tackler

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<v Speaker 2>a really strong special teams player, and this team needs

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<v Speaker 2>help at safety, and it's going to be a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a transition for him, but I think for

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<v Speaker 2>the most part, I think he'll be able to adjust

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<v Speaker 2>without any kind of major issues at all. Then the

0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Jaguars had to trade back up into that third round

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<v Speaker 2>and the next pick. In fact, while they were selecting Ransaw,

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<v Speaker 2>they were in negotiations with the trade for the eighty

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<v Speaker 2>ninth overall pick. They ended up with Wyatt Milam out

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<v Speaker 2>of West Virginia, the Big twelve offensive lineman of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>a four year starter, a consensus All American pick a

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<v Speaker 2>year ago, and he's big, sixty six, three hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen pounds, And it just continues the idea of change

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<v Speaker 2>on the offensive line for free agent editions. And then

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<v Speaker 2>Milam the first of what ended up being two selections

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL Draft on the line. But Milam is

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<v Speaker 2>going to move into guard here. Well, interesting too the

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<v Speaker 2>picture that we just showed he's wearing sixty four. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>all the film that I watched, he was wearing seventy

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<v Speaker 2>four and played left tackle. And I think it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be interesting to see where he's gonna end up

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<v Speaker 2>playing for this football team. He's going to provide competition

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<v Speaker 2>I think at multiple positions, guard and tackle. Like it.

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<v Speaker 2>He finishes, got a little nasty to him, which I

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<v Speaker 2>really like. The finish that he has I think are

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<v Speaker 2>gonna Those are the kind of that's the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>finish that you want to have with your offensive line

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<v Speaker 2>group as a whole. And that's probably one of the

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<v Speaker 2>weaker things that the offensive line. One of the traits

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<v Speaker 2>that they had over the last couple of years is

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<v Speaker 2>that they didn't finish. My limb will finish each and

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<v Speaker 2>every play. He's not looking just to you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes looking to go to the echo of the whistle

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<v Speaker 2>and likes to try to bury guys. A little bit athletic,

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<v Speaker 2>He's long. I don't know if his best position is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be tackled. I think he's probably going to

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<v Speaker 2>be guard.

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<v Speaker 3>Six six guard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's the way the National Football League nowadays, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I Mean, he doesn't have I don't think he's got

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<v Speaker 2>exceptionally long arms, but he's he's a big, long, big guy, naturally,

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<v Speaker 2>big guy, tough as nails. Double teams, oh man, when

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<v Speaker 2>he he did double teams, you know, because a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times the tackle will we'll bump on a three

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<v Speaker 2>and then go up to second level. His bumps were

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<v Speaker 2>like throwing guys out of the bars do where the

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:13.480
<v Speaker 2>guard didn't have to hardly do anything. So he's fun

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<v Speaker 2>to watch now, fun to watch. I think he's gonna be,

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<v Speaker 2>if not a starter right away, then he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that may be into the lineup sooner rather

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<v Speaker 2>than later. And that's you know, I was talking with

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<v Speaker 2>John Osier. You might have heard of him, and Bucky Brooks. Yeah,

0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 2>you might have heard of him. Yeah, on Huddle Up

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday on the official Jaguars podcast network Jaguars you Tube

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<v Speaker 2>all the places, and our conversation was about offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, a lot of times you say there's competition,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know who the starters are gonna be. That's right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there might actually be some real competition on the offensive

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<v Speaker 2>line this year, so far from set right. Well, And look,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the veteran guys coming in are gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of an advantage just because you know, look,

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<v Speaker 2>they know how the league is, they've got experience, they're

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<v Speaker 2>more mature physically. Some of these guys that come in

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<v Speaker 2>with offensive linemen, sometimes it takes them a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years to kind of get to the point physically to

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<v Speaker 2>where they're men. I mean, there's a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 2>that play college football that they haven't been playing football

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<v Speaker 2>and lifting weights and eating full time and haven't gotten

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<v Speaker 2>to the point physically that the guys are in the pros.

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<v Speaker 2>And also the techniques and tricks and all that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff, anticipation, learning the system, learning the game at

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL level, it's a distinct advantage for a veteran player,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's very difficult for a young player to come in.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's special cases, just like Biselli. When he came

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<v Speaker 2>in the door, I was like, my god, this guy's

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 2>ready to go. But there's not a lot of guys

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:50.400
<v Speaker 2>that are built that way. But I believe that there

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be legitimate competition, and I think Milas

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be in the mix.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, come back in a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got plenty more draft picks to go through, and

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<v Speaker 2>Back with more and just a moment it is Jaguars

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 5>I go through the range of all emotions and when

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<v Speaker 5>it comes to competing right, Internally, I have an extreme

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<v Speaker 5>fire and an extreme passion for the sport of football

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:40.720
<v Speaker 5>and engineering team dynamics.

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<v Speaker 6>But externally I do project, an attempt to project.

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<v Speaker 5>It is a conscious effort, grace and end points. Which

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<v Speaker 5>that's practice that's been practiced over time, and I have

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<v Speaker 5>had to if that's my standard, failed not met that

0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 5>standard multiple times.

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<v Speaker 6>In order and I know that I'll fail in the future.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, There's likely to be a moment that I don't,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't come through in a way that I would

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<v Speaker 5>want to come through, and there will be moments where

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<v Speaker 5>I'm proud of it.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's certainly something I'm conscious of.

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<v Speaker 2>James Gladstone Jaguars GM taped today with John Oser on

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<v Speaker 3>It will be out soon. It will be a must listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Lam Jaguars dot Com, Jack Wars YouTube. We're reviewing the

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars draft class with Jeff Flogoman, film expert. Well, I

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 2>don't know about that, but spent the time watching I

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 2>probably spent about an hour watching each guy, you know,

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 2>but today was a little I had like two guys

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 2>at the very end here where it didn't quite go

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 2>an hour. But uh yeah, I watched most of these

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 2>guys for for quite some time. And by Schule Tooting, Yeah, Basal,

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 2>let's say sure the day three picks here starting in

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 2>the fourth round. Basial Tooting out of Virginia Tech, was

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 2>at North Carolina A and T to start his career,

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 2>transferred to Blacksburg four three two forty a forty and a.

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 3>Half inch vertical jump at the combine.

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Four three two. I mean, just give people an idea

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 2>that's smoking fast. That's Fred Taylor fast. I mean that's seriously,

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 2>that's Fred Taylor fast. And you look at the size

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 2>of them five nine two oh six. Yeah, I mean

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 2>this is uh, this is a more east tight maybe

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 2>a little bit taller on Maurice probably wore platform shoes

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:06.439
<v Speaker 2>to get the five to nine on some kind of

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 2>measured days, right, Maurice. No, But when Tutin gets a hole,

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, he's got a lot of guys

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 2>have forty yard dash speed, and there are guys that

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>have legitimate football speed. Tutan's got legitimate football speed and

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 2>power as well. You know, in the backfield, you're talking

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 2>about a compact figure. Now. I don't want to say

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 2>he's Ashton Jenny power, because Jenny runs through more tackles

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:43.479
<v Speaker 2>than arguably anybody that ever watched in college football. But

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Tutan's got a little bit of that kind of at

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 2>the beginning. But once he's in the open field, that

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 2>power doesn't run through guys. But when he's untouched, I'm

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 2>talking there's a smoke trail behind him and got really

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:04.479
<v Speaker 2>strong vision, which is obviously a great trait to have

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 2>your running back. But I mean, I was shocked that

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:12.360
<v Speaker 2>this guy wasn't in the conversation as one of the

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 2>top four running backs in the draft after watching him,

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 2>how much of it is especially with the guy in

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. Yeah right, what's his name, Maari Hampton? Yeah, Hampton.

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:31.679
<v Speaker 2>So being this size five to nine, little over two hundred,

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 2>you can kind of hide behind the offensive line a

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 2>little bit too, right, Yeah, I mean that's not I mean,

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to pick short guys just so they

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 2>can hide. But I mean, yeah, he has a little

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:44.479
<v Speaker 2>bit of that. But the impressive part of him is

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:49.959
<v Speaker 2>the speed, the speed vision. But what impressed me the

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 2>most about him is that he doesn't waste any steps.

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of running backs like the guy Ohio

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 2>State that got picked I think is the second running

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 2>back in the draft. He will dance a little bit,

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 2>okay until he figures out where he needs to go

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 2>to none do that. I mean it's once plant and

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 2>then go. I mean, that's the thing I think that's

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:14.719
<v Speaker 2>impressive about him and is he doesn't waste anytime. His

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 2>offensive linemen are gonna love that fact because he's decisive

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 2>and he's decisive.

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 3>With good vision.

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 2>So bam and go north South. That's him. North South

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 2>with speed. So when you add a quick decision on

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 2>the cut with elite speed, now you're talking angles and

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 2>approaches from defenders are not gonna work as well. And

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 2>that's why he had all the yards that he had.

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Let's continue in the fourth round.

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<v Speaker 2>The Jaguars go linebacker Jack Kaiser out of Notre Dame

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 2>was in South Bend for six years, stuck it out.

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 2>How do you end up at college for six years? Well,

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 2>COVID year so that everybody could get an extra year

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 2>during the COVID rules. A lot of guys took advantage

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 2>of it, and he he came into college in an

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 2>era where nil and transfer rules were not a thing.

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Like you couldn't just go anywhere, and you weren't getting

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 2>paid much money. At the end, he could have gone

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 2>other places, he didn't, and he got paid some money

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the Notre Dame to stick around

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 2>six nine veteran players played a lot of football. He

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 2>has and and just he was an outstanding I think interview.

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 2>You know the league has interviews, the teams have the interviews.

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 2>He's a great interview, just like I mean, Tooton was

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 2>an exceptional interview. The running back from Virginia Tech and

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Kaiser were number twenty four, and that kind of sticks

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 2>in my mind because he's not a big, big guy,

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:38.959
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, what did you say he

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 2>was ye six two two twenty something whatever, not a

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 2>monster linebacker like you know Devin Lloyd and him standing

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 2>next to each other, it was thirty one two thirty one.

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 2>There would be a stark difference in size. But really active,

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 2>really active, makes a lot of tackles. And I think

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 2>you was he like the all time leading tackler and

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.719
<v Speaker 2>that Notre Dame I think. I think it's something that

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 2>I read somewhere, but watching his film, I mean, the

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 2>guy is always around the ball, active to no get out,

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 2>has great movement skills, but he's a little smaller than

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 2>some of the other linebackers. And I would say this

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 2>about him. I think he's going to make a lot

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 2>of tackles in his career. I think he's going to

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 2>be an exceptional special teams player because he's active and

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>he's got that movement. But I think you're going to

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 2>have to protect him a little bit. When I say

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 2>protect him a little bit, you want to have a

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 2>lot of you want to have a lot of beef

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 2>up in front of him so that he can he

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 2>can run clean. If he's got to consistently fight through blocks,

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 2>then that's not going to be him at his best,

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 2>so to speak. But love how active he is, Love

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 2>how how many hell is all. He's got a nose

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 2>for the ball. He's always there. Comes from a hard

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 2>working background, comes from a farm. Did his post pick

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 2>call to the media the family farm. Yeah, like he's

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 2>got I think a thousand acres in Indiana. Had some

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 2>brothers when they all left to go, and they were

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 2>all like athletes, I guess, and then he had to

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 2>take over all their duties and stuff. And I mean, yeah,

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 2>he's got the work ethic and got a little bit

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 2>of track background in the family. I guess a lot

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 2>of his dad and a lot of his brothers and

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 2>him were throwers at the discus and shot don sta. Yeah,

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 2>pretty cool. He's going to be twenty five when the

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 2>season gets here. That's kind of an older rookie, Trevor Lawrence, Yeah,

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 2>isn't it. That's all right? Hey, Look, as long as

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 2>you can play football, I don't care how old you are.

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Taylor McLeod could play football at Auburn certainly in his

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 2>last couple of years started at a state, transferred over.

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 2>He was a six round pick. As a linebacker, he

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 2>was kind of a hybrid type with stand up some

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.719
<v Speaker 2>They put him on the edge in certain pass rushing

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 2>downs and twenty four tackles for loss in twenty four

0:32:57.240 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 2>games at Auburn in his two years on the planes. Yeah,

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 2>he played a lot and with his hand in the ground.

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 2>And I should actually correct that and say hands. At Auburn,

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 2>the edge players play from a four point stand. What's

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 2>the difference there? Why is that a difference. I'm not

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 2>a fan of the four point stance just because I

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 2>think it slows your get off. You're losing a little

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 2>bit of that momentum swing with the back arm. But

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you this, I mean, there was no

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 2>problem with him doing it. But he's kind of did

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of both. At Auburn, he was on

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 2>the edge in a four point stance. He would stand

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 2>up in that kind of spinner role where he would

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 2>be a fourth rusher and they'd have three down and

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 2>he would kind of move around and go to different

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 2>gaps and rush. And there were times that he stood

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 2>up as like a spy and played linebacker. Now, at

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 2>the All Star Game that he went to, they played

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 2>him as an inside linebacker, which I think is more

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 2>than likely going to be where he ends up residing at.

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 2>But I think he can give them a guy that

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe can contribute some snaps at edge, you know, in

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 2>two minute drill where you're kind of rotating guys through.

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 2>But he's not a real big guy, you know, so

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I want to see that because there's not a lot

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 2>of guys that aren't that big that can do that.

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 2>I wonder what his coverability is like if he's gonna play,

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, if he's gonna be an outside kind of

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 2>strongside guy. Well, I can tell you this the if

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:33.320
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna I anticipate him playing linebacker here. Okay, I

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 2>think there's gonna be an adjustment period for him. Okay.

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 2>The one thing that's very apparent he's got great closing.

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:45.759
<v Speaker 2>UH doesn't have He's not a super fast guy, but

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 2>he does a really good job of body control. He's

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 2>got great bend, he's got some natural pass rush moves,

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 2>and he's a very good athlete. But he doesn't have

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:57.720
<v Speaker 2>superior speed. But he's got good speed. But there's always

0:34:57.719 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 2>an adjustment for a guy that's had his hand in

0:34:59.880 --> 0:35:02.720
<v Speaker 2>the round for the most part and then was told

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 2>to sick them to now all of a sudden that

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:07.919
<v Speaker 2>you have to read react, and before you even read

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 2>and react, you've got to be able to adjust the

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 2>assignments and responsibilities in the gap and everything else in

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 2>your mind before the ball has even snapped. Devin Lloyd, right,

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 2>It takes a while, right, Yeah, I mean Devin had

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 2>an adjustment period on that as well, right, So we'll

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 2>see what McLeod has. Devin's still in an adjustment period

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 2>to some extent, so I mean still learn it. And

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 2>it's a big year for him, final year of his

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 2>rookie deal. They didn't take the fifth year option, well,

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 2>and that's an opportunity for it going to be a

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.840
<v Speaker 2>great opportunity for him, you know. Now he's going to

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 2>have a chance to test the market, have a great year,

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 2>and then you're going to be loving it absolutely. We

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 2>continue here on Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick, Jeff Lockham

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:50.280
<v Speaker 2>and going through the traft picks. We talked Travis Hunter already,

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 2>we've gone third round, we've gone fourth round. Now we're

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.720
<v Speaker 2>in the sixth round again. With Raywan laying the third

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 2>safety out of Navy. James Gladstone says, hey, you know,

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 2>most likely you'll see his impact immediately on the special

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 2>team side of things.

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 3>But he had.

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Opportunities after two years. If you're at the academies, you

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 2>can transfer after to you know, within two years without

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 2>penalty or without having to serve and all that. He

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 2>decided to stay and stick it out at Navy and

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.839
<v Speaker 2>played forty nine games for the midship But I think

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 2>that says something right there. I mean, you talk about commitment, right,

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, to stay at Navy when he could have

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 2>left made money and il money maybe improved his opportunities

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 2>in the draft even further. I mean I like that.

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean to me, that says something about the person

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 2>now the player watching his film. Very good ball skills,

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:53.879
<v Speaker 2>very good ball skills, the positives, got a good nose

0:36:53.960 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 2>for the ball. Definitely is active, runs well, I will say,

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 2>in open space. At times. Sometimes he misses tackles, which

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think that anybody in open space can

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 2>do that. But I like his commitment. I like his

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:14.439
<v Speaker 2>his attitude that he plays the game at But he's

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 2>got that one weakness is a tackling in space a

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 2>little bit. That's gonna be something to watch for him.

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 2>But the ball skills that he has JP you know,

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 2>whereas you know earlier we were talking about rams while

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 2>not having the ball skills. Okay, this young man has

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 2>ball skills. Love that m H. And he can play

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:39.360
<v Speaker 2>immediately because of just not that long ago, they had

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 2>made some changes to the rules for players who have

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 2>finished their years at Navy Army the academies. So basically

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 2>he'll be in the selected reserves as a commissioned officer

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 2>and participated and he'll participate, as they say, at efforts

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 2>to recruit and retain members of the Army. I mean,

0:37:56.960 --> 0:38:01.319
<v Speaker 2>what better way to recruit for the Navy in this

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 2>town then to have a guy that just finished his

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 2>playing career at Navy and is now going to be

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:11.479
<v Speaker 2>an example for all of the other people to maybe

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 2>want to go to play football at Navy or to

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 2>join the Navy itself. Great opportunity for him. I mean,

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:23.360
<v Speaker 2>if he ends up playing well in this town, there's

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a lot of opportunities they're going to open

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 2>up for him. Absolutely, a two base Navy town in Jacksonville. Oh,

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 2>come on, Oh, yeah, kidding me. Well, let's not forget. Okay,

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 2>we've got a couple bases, but then there's another one

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 2>right up the road. Oh yeah, up in Georgia. Correct, Yeah,

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 2>so three within really striking distance. Exactly.

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.879
<v Speaker 3>Love that. Let's continue, Let's get the seventh round.

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Picks and logs and Jonah Manheim from Southern California played

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 2>both tackle positions in twenty two and twenty three right tackle,

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:55.399
<v Speaker 2>left tackle, respectively, and then moved into center last year

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 2>for twelve games for SC and I played four of

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 2>the five positions in a career across the line, but

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 2>listed as a center as they picked him. Well, and

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 2>this is one of those guys that I didn't spend

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 2>the hour on. Okay, so I just watched his performance

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 2>last year, so I think the center, And even though

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:15.759
<v Speaker 2>I haven't watched him play tackle, I don't think he's

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 2>got the length to play tackle. He's a six foot four,

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 2>three hundred pounder. I think his room for growth. He's

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 2>got a great base, he's got great awareness. His footwork

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 2>is good. He got to do a little bit better

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:31.360
<v Speaker 2>sometimes with his first step in gaining ground instead of

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of shuffling with it. But balance anticipation. I think

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:41.359
<v Speaker 2>he's going to get bigger to be more effective. Does

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 2>an excellent job getting to the second level. There's not

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 2>many centers that can snap a shotgun snap and that

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 2>can pull and get out front on a wide suite.

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 2>This guy can do that, which is impressive. So I

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 2>think this is a I don't want to say this

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 2>is a I don't think he's going to come in

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 2>and compete right away way for a starting job. I

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 2>don't think you're gonna beat Ainsey out, okay, but I

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.400
<v Speaker 2>think that this is a guy jar on the shelf,

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 2>develop him for a year, maybe two, and that this

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 2>guy may end up being a long term solution at

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>center for you. And finally, also in the seventh round,

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 2>the Quint Allen from Syracuse, another running back. I don't

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 2>know if i'd put him at just running back.

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 3>Where are you gonna put him?

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:25.600
<v Speaker 2>I think he can you can say running back, slash,

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 2>full back, slash, h back slash, tight end. His his

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:36.280
<v Speaker 2>special ability is catching the ball. I mean that's really

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 2>where his special skill set really really shows to me.

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Uh here hurdles a lot of guys once he's out

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 2>in space. Uh got good hands, evasive in the open field.

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, they they played him in kind of that

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.760
<v Speaker 2>dual role at Syracuse, you know, where they weren't afraid

0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 2>to put him out in space and play him as

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 2>a as a slot receiver. Had over five hundred receiving yards,

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:04.240
<v Speaker 2>one of two FBS players with over one thousand rushing

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 2>and five hundred or more receiving scataboos the other one.

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 2>By the way, Yeah, I like this young man. You know,

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 2>look for he's long. Kind of reminds me a little

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 2>bit when he's running, kind of like a Derrick Henry.

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 2>And don't don't get me wrong here, I'm not trying

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 2>to say he runs with that power authority, but just

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:25.879
<v Speaker 2>the length, you know. I mean when you watch Derrick

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Henry run, you notice the length and you thought, well,

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:32.839
<v Speaker 2>he's not moving that fast because his gait is different, right,

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 2>He's gaining a lot of ground with steps. Kind of

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 2>reminds me a little bit of a l quinn Alleny

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 2>just because of the length, but not obviously in the

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 2>same category. You know, a lot of passing game stuff.

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Sixty four catches last year. Let all the running backs

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 2>in college football. Yah, That's why I don't I don't

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 2>think you put him at running back. I think you

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 2>just say, hey, look athlete, But you know you don't

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:55.800
<v Speaker 2>do that in the same kind of way that you

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 2>know years ago the Jaguars draft is somebody out of

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Michigan and decided to put the tag of that fleet

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 2>on the offensive weapon. Yeah, I mean that was Robins. Yeah,

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:06.799
<v Speaker 2>come on, come on, let's just just give him a

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 2>position and let's move forward. But but la Quinn Allen

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:14.839
<v Speaker 2>is uh is a I think he's gonna be fun

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 2>to watch just from the standpoint of you can do

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:21.359
<v Speaker 2>a lot of different things with him. And by the way,

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars signed twenty undrafted. Haven't gotten the film on it.

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:25.839
<v Speaker 3>You haven't dug that deep.

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Give me a little time on that. We've got time.

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 2>We'll come back in a moment. Phase two is underway

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 2>for the veterans and we'll get our final thoughts in

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 2>on ten to excel am Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:46.760
<v Speaker 3>It's Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm not gonna let no one talking.

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm promising that.

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 2>So I feel like I did a good job at.

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 6>West Virginia not let no one touch the quarterback. So

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 6>that's my goal. I'm not gonna let anyone touch Trevor,

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 6>So I'm excited to that.

0:42:58.520 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 3>It's Wyatt Milum.

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good way to start as an offensive lineman.

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Don't let anybody touch number sixteen.

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:05.839
<v Speaker 3>Good idea. Welcome back.

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 2>It's Jaguars Happy Hour JP Shaddick with Jeff Logiven. We're

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 2>at the Hundai Studios on Tentedxlamjaguars dot Com and Jaguars

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 2>YouTube and Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Dream Pinders Homes,

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 2>official homepiitter of the Jacksonville Jaguars. We've gone through the

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:26.359
<v Speaker 2>draft class. They'll have rookie mini camp next weekend, so

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 2>keep an eye out for maybe some possible news on

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 2>that in the next.

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Week or so.

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Don't want to ruin it. Meanwhile, veterans are here. Phase

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.720
<v Speaker 2>two of the off season program is underway. It started

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 2>on Monday, which means that the coaches can be out

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:47.400
<v Speaker 2>there for the first time with players. It was no

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:51.919
<v Speaker 2>helmets though, no helmet still, no team drills, no one

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 2>on one stuff. Basically it's just individual drills. Now that's

0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's the pace of the off season and

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.759
<v Speaker 2>nut's the way it should be, you know. But the

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 2>biggest part is is that when you've got a new

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 2>coaching staff like this, the moments that you have on

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:10.240
<v Speaker 2>the grass great teaching opportunity because you've got new systems,

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 2>and so you want to end up having that become

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of second nature by the time you hit the

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 2>ground for mini camps. So then then once you get

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 2>the training camp, it's just an afterthought that the system

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.800
<v Speaker 2>is already in there and you're not even thinking anymore.

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 2>You're just being an athlete. If you're watching us on

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Jaguars YouTube, you see Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence on

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 2>the field together for the first time. Yeah, there's Diamie

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Brown with the head coach, Liam Cohen, Ryan Thomas Junior.

0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, this is valuable. You know, this is

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 2>when you want to have as much influence on the

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 2>players as far as the teaching part of it and

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 2>also about establishing your culture and valuable valuable time spent

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:53.919
<v Speaker 2>all in the grass and you can't waste it because

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 2>you know you're limited. You know, you're basically once you

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 2>step out on the grass, you're on the clock. You know,

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:02.840
<v Speaker 2>the the union and and ownership has the agreements about

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 2>what you can do, how you can do it. And

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 2>how long you can do it. And you've got to

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 2>make the most out of every bit of it. Yeah,

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 2>go up to the light of the rule. It's written

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 2>for a reason, it's negotiated for a reason. What it is,

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:16.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, and don't try to bend the rules or

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:19.280
<v Speaker 2>anything like that. But you know, just just follow the rules.

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 3>I like it.

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:23.719
<v Speaker 2>We've seen it around here where the rules have been bent, well,

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.399
<v Speaker 2>they've been slept in the hand. Well. And I tell

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:30.400
<v Speaker 2>you what, the Miller Electric Center is an amazing place.

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what a great facility. I mean you compare

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 2>what there is today versus what it used to be

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 2>like for the Jaguars here. I mean, it's night and day,

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 2>night and day. Every modern amenity tool is there for

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:51.879
<v Speaker 2>the players. It's all right at their fingertips. It's all convenient.

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, kudos to the city, kudos to Shad because

0:45:56.480 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>this place is top notch. Everything he needs right here.

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Why would you go anywhere else? You don't need to,

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 2>You don't, you don't need to at all. By the way,

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 2>they signed a defensive end Ogba. What do you think

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 2>I like him? Why did we wait like two years,

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 2>three years to sign another edge player? You're asking the

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 2>wrong guy. That guy's not around anymore. I don't know, Like, wait,

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 2>wait a minute. You gotta have you gotta have guys

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 2>that can rotate in. I mean I'm talking legitimate guys.

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 2>And last year the best guy that they had that

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 2>they were going to roll in traded them to another team.

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 2>And I was going Roy robertson Harris, No, not Roy.

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:48.720
<v Speaker 2>They traded them. Well, they both ended up going to Seattle.

0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 2>He was an edge player. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway,

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 2>he was the depth. He was your third guy, and

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 2>they traded him right before the season began, and I

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, wait a minute, Trevis Gibson, Yes, Trevis Gibson, okay,

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:09.439
<v Speaker 2>from the Tennessee Titans. They got right, And look, I mean,

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:13.439
<v Speaker 2>no offense to Miles Cole, okay, But Miles Cole wasn't

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:15.360
<v Speaker 2>ready to be a third guy in the rotation, and

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 2>he showed that last year. He's got a ways.

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:18.399
<v Speaker 3>To go yet.

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Emmanuel Ogba former second round pick Brown Miamistry year Dolphins

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:26.320
<v Speaker 2>for five seasons.

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:28.320
<v Speaker 3>How many sacks did you have in your career? Logs?

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh I don't, oh, don't act like you. I don't remember.

0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 3>Passed forty three and a half in it.

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 2>It's about somewhere about what I had something like that.

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 2>He's a good player, veteran guy, been there, done that.

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:44.719
<v Speaker 2>When he lines up, you're not sitting there worried about,

0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, is he gonna get smoked or oh

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:49.800
<v Speaker 2>my god, he's not going to be able to do anything.

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 2>You're okay, veteran guy. Put him in. We're okay. We

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:56.960
<v Speaker 2>can give these guys a break for the record. Jeff

0:47:57.000 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Logman career sacks forty seven. Yeah, that was right around there.

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:03.720
<v Speaker 3>Happened when he passes.

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 2>You this year, Oh, congratulates. I'll shake his hand. I'll say,

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 2>good job man. Not hard to do. If I could

0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:13.080
<v Speaker 2>stay it healthy, I might have had a few more that.

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:14.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's everybody right.

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, part of the game. The way the game is,

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:25.760
<v Speaker 2>what do they always say? JP? Availability always supersedes what ability?

0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Ability exactly. But you can't spell certain ones without the

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 2>words of ability availability. Availability cannot be spelled without some

0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:43.240
<v Speaker 2>of the letters from ability, like the whole word almost.

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 2>But you don't use the B and availability. I guess

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you do.

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 3>What are you talking about?

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 2>What is wrong? Well? That's the am I right. You

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 2>cannot spell, you cannot spell one without the other. That's

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:57.520
<v Speaker 2>the only point I.

0:48:57.400 --> 0:48:59.319
<v Speaker 3>Was making, right, But it's the same.

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Never mind, it is the ability and availability. You just

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:06.360
<v Speaker 2>had to be in another What are we doing? But

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, JP, I'm glad they got Agba to

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 2>go back to our original point because you gotta have three. Now,

0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:17.800
<v Speaker 2>everybody's kind of freaking out about the whole We didn't

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 2>do anything in the draft to address our defensive line.

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:25.279
<v Speaker 2>I think people need to take a step back and

0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 2>take a deep breath on that.

0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:27.959
<v Speaker 3>Take a chill pill.

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, No, not a chill pill, because that kind of

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:34.760
<v Speaker 2>implying to take a drug. Don't take a drug. It relax, Okay,

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Ogba is exactly it. I thought that they may address

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 2>edge in the draft because that's the position. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that they needed to find some depth in. But by

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<v Speaker 2>doing that with Ogba, to me, okay, you got it,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody's like, okay, what are you gonna do at

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<v Speaker 2>defensive tackle? I feel good about Jordan Jefferson, Devon Hamilton, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Eric Armstead, I'm okay with those guys. I think they'll

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<v Speaker 2>be okay next week. Between now and then, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>teach you how to spell and then next week I

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<v Speaker 2>need a little bit liston Lane will be with us

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<v Speaker 2>last week, so that's coming up next week. Thanks to

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Flogerman, I'm j P. Shadwick, Joe Fortunado, David cho

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<v Speaker 2>our entire crew. Thanks to you for listening to Jaguars

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Hour.