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Speaker 2: Busy hour ahead as always, as we continue to bask

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Speaker 2: in the afterglow of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft Hall,

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Speaker 3: With US will have a draft review of all the picks.

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Speaker 2: He's been watching film deep into the film room, digging

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Speaker 2: deep on these nine Jaguars draft picks, including Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 2: You might have heard of him. He'll play both ways

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Speaker 2: for the Jaguars. The impact he has already made on

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars organization and he's barely stepped foot on campus.

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Speaker 2: And Phase two of the off season program is underway

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Speaker 2: for the veterans.

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Speaker 3: They've been out on.

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Speaker 3: And that's Thursday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: J P. Shadrick with the aforementioned Jeff Lagaman, good afternoon,

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Speaker 2: good afternoon, it's up. It's all good man. What one

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Speaker 2: week after yeah, exactly one week Yeah at what an

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Speaker 2: exciting night that was. I mean it was pretty incredible

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Speaker 2: and h and I hope I didn't make anybody nervous

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Speaker 2: because when we had BISSELLI on, he said what do

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Speaker 2: you guys want to do? And you said jenty, and

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Speaker 2: I said, trade up and get Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 3: Because I said Jenny, I was like, okay.

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Speaker 2: The Hunter's not going to be there, and well they

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Speaker 2: trade up, you know, right, So that's why I picked Jenny. Sure, no,

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Speaker 2: I mean until I get it. But you just said it.

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Speaker 2: I said it, but I didn't know it. So people

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Speaker 2: were like wondering, I mean, did you know? And I'm like, no,

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Speaker 2: I had no idea. I need to go back and

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Speaker 2: watch Facili's reacting reaction. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember what it was.

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Speaker 2: To be honest with you, probably a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a subtle surprised look. Probably, I

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Speaker 2: bet if you if you looked real close, there's probably

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Speaker 2: a video evidence. Well, and then the crazy thing is

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Speaker 2: is that you know we were kind of all hanging around.

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Speaker 2: And then I can't remember who, which NFL scoop guy

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Speaker 2: has it, schefter or whoever says, you know, there's talk

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Speaker 2: of a trade maybe happened between the Cleveland Browns and

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Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars. And I said, to your kidding me?

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Speaker 2: And sure enough we went to Brian Sext and Brian

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Speaker 2: Sexton in Green Bay said he was here in whispers

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Speaker 2: at the draft and we're like, oh, here we go.

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Speaker 2: So when all of a sudden, the Tennessee Titans on

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Speaker 2: the clock, Me and Frank Franz you'd do on the show,

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Speaker 2: and Frank's talking about, you know, the draft and the Titans.

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Speaker 2: I was like, look, you know, let's make sure people

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Speaker 2: are aware. Don't go get a beer or go get

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Speaker 2: a sandwich, because when the Tennessee Titans are done here,

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars could be on the clock if this trade

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Speaker 2: does in fact go through. And sure enough it did.

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Speaker 2: It was exciting. It's fascinating to hear the aftermath. You know,

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Speaker 2: Mike Silver was here from the Athletic New York Times,

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Speaker 2: longtime national writer in the NFL, and he was entrenched

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Speaker 2: in the draft room. Oh yeah, all weekend including that,

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Speaker 2: and had the story that night of the trade and

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Speaker 2: everything that went into it, and from his article, basically

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Speaker 2: they had the general deal in place seventeen days before

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Speaker 2: the draft, that nobody let it out, which is amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's this day and age, that's that not delete. That's

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Speaker 2: truly amazing, and it all hinged. And I'm the Titan.

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Speaker 2: I wonder how many people actually knew about that. I

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Speaker 2: bet you know what I mean exactly, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you're talking about seventeen days, I mean there's you know,

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Speaker 2: if you're a new general manager, and look, I'm not

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Speaker 2: trying to make any accusations, but when you come into

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Speaker 2: a building with a regime that's been in place for

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Speaker 2: a while, I mean, look, there's a handful of people

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Speaker 2: make sure that there's only a few ears that actually

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Speaker 2: tell you this, Travis Hunter, if you're a fisherman, be

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Speaker 2: glad you're not going to Cleveland and be extremely excited

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Speaker 2: an off season of paradise. Apparently it all hinged on

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Speaker 2: selecting Travis himself. If there was going to be a

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Speaker 2: there and the deal would have been off. So right,

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Speaker 2: the deal is in and Travis Hunter is in as well. Well,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna go through all the picks tonight, logs. We've

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Speaker 2: got a whole hour to do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean the number one story, of course, really a

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Speaker 2: lot of ways in this draft was Travis Hunter. He's

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Speaker 2: number one in Jersey sales of rookies so far since

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Speaker 2: the draft. By the way, I think that's changed now.

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Speaker 2: I think Sanders has surpassed him.

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Speaker 3: Now, Okay, there's no guarantee shoot makes it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, No, No, I mean it's that's a

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Speaker 2: whole other topic right there. Legendary. Yes, I'm gonna start

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Speaker 2: dropping that word at the end of everything that I

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Speaker 3: On surprised he coming with JP.

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Speaker 2: How about you know da da da legendary. Yeah, what'll

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Speaker 2: be doing? I don't know, man, But Travis Hunter, Hey,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna let him play both ways, try it out

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Speaker 2: wide receiver and then put him in at dB some

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Speaker 2: see how it goes this off season and then reassessed.

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Speaker 2: They've got a full plan in place from meeting times

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Speaker 2: and schedule and practice and all these things, but it's fluid,

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Speaker 2: one thing I appreciate, first of all, I think James

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Speaker 2: Gladstone is a very smart man. Let me just get

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Speaker 2: that out of the way. But to go into this

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Speaker 2: we know everything. And what I loved is that he said,

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Speaker 2: And I've just thought that that was it was very

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Speaker 2: You've never been around him, you don't know the makeup,

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Speaker 2: you don't know the physical demands of you know, for

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Speaker 3: Let's go through each side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: I know you've dug it on tape on Travis Hunter

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Speaker 2: over the last week or so, especially, Let's start on offense,

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Speaker 2: when you go back and into the film room and

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Speaker 2: I said this to James when we had him on

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Speaker 2: being totally honest, and I think I might have said

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Speaker 2: this to you in the weeks leading up to the draft.

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Speaker 2: He's the most effortless athlete that I have ever watched

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Speaker 2: on film. He just makes everything look easy. And James

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Speaker 2: actually used the term he's got incredible grace, very graceful,

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Speaker 2: and I thought that that was another great accurate way

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Speaker 2: the body control that he has as a wide receiver,

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Speaker 2: the speed, the ball skills that he has, I mean,

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Speaker 2: And I was kind of nice to Shader Sanders leading

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Speaker 2: up to the draft because I just wasn't a big

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Speaker 2: he were on the field full time as an offensive player.

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Speaker 2: And in this draft, watching all of the wide receivers

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Speaker 2: far and away the best wide receiver and it wasn't

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Speaker 2: even close. Ted McMillan wasn't even in the same neighborhood

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Speaker 2: with Brian Thomas Junior, I think is just going to

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Speaker 2: of them about Travis Hunnert. For me, it's in contested

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Speaker 2: situations he's covered, but he's not ever covered. He's never covered.

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Speaker 2: to consider Calvin Johnson number one and overall and he

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Speaker 2: was like, well, wait a minute, when did you change

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Speaker 2: similar to Justin Jefferson a little bit in a lot

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Speaker 2: of ways. But the contested catches or the the circus

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Speaker 2: catches that he has, I mean, it's just it's amazing

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Speaker 2: to watch. And the body control, it's incredible. And what

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Speaker 2: does he run the forty forty yard dash show? I've

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Speaker 2: never really seen a time on. Yeah, he never really did,

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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 3: No, you ever did it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, because when you watch him run, it's he's

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Speaker 2: hasn't run one, didn't do the combine, didn't do the

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Speaker 2: pro DA, didn't have to. I don't believe. Hey, as

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Speaker 2: fast as he needs check the tape like Dion right

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Speaker 2: is legendary, runs as fast as legendary somebody that has

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Speaker 2: a right to say legendary.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sure, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And as a as a defensive back, by the way,

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Speaker 2: which the Jaguars are talking about kind of working that

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Speaker 2: in the door, I was like, my god, this guy's

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Speaker 2: ready to go. But there's not a lot of guys

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Speaker 2: that are built that way. But I believe that there

433
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Speaker 2: is going to be legitimate competition, and I think Milas

434
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Speaker 2: is going to be in the mix.

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Speaker 3: Well, come back in a moment.

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Speaker 5: I go through the range of all emotions and when

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Speaker 5: it comes to competing right, Internally, I have an extreme

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Speaker 5: and engineering team dynamics.

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Speaker 6: But externally I do project, an attempt to project.

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Speaker 5: It is a conscious effort, grace and end points. Which

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Speaker 5: that's practice that's been practiced over time, and I have

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Speaker 6: In order and I know that I'll fail in the future.

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Speaker 5: Right, There's likely to be a moment that I don't,

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Speaker 5: I don't come through in a way that I would

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Speaker 5: I'm proud of it.

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Speaker 6: But that's certainly something I'm conscious of.

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Speaker 2: Jaguars draft class with Jeff Flogoman, film expert. Well, I

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Speaker 2: don't know about that, but spent the time watching I

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Speaker 2: probably spent about an hour watching each guy, you know,

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Speaker 2: but today was a little I had like two guys

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Speaker 2: at the very end here where it didn't quite go

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Speaker 2: an hour. But uh yeah, I watched most of these

476
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: guys for for quite some time. And by Schule Tooting, Yeah, Basal,

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Speaker 2: let's say sure the day three picks here starting in

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Speaker 2: the fourth round. Basial Tooting out of Virginia Tech, was

479
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: at North Carolina A and T to start his career,

480
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: transferred to Blacksburg four three two forty a forty and a.

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Speaker 3: Half inch vertical jump at the combine.

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Speaker 2: Four three two. I mean, just give people an idea

483
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: that's smoking fast. That's Fred Taylor fast. I mean that's seriously,

484
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: that's Fred Taylor fast. And you look at the size

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Speaker 2: of them five nine two oh six. Yeah, I mean

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00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: this is uh, this is a more east tight maybe

487
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: a little bit taller on Maurice probably wore platform shoes

488
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 2: to get the five to nine on some kind of

489
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: measured days, right, Maurice. No, But when Tutin gets a hole,

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00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, he's got a lot of guys

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00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 2: have forty yard dash speed, and there are guys that

492
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: have legitimate football speed. Tutan's got legitimate football speed and

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00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 2: power as well. You know, in the backfield, you're talking

494
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: about a compact figure. Now. I don't want to say

495
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: he's Ashton Jenny power, because Jenny runs through more tackles

496
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,479
Speaker 2: than arguably anybody that ever watched in college football. But

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00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: Tutan's got a little bit of that kind of at

498
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Speaker 2: the beginning. But once he's in the open field, that

499
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: power doesn't run through guys. But when he's untouched, I'm

500
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: talking there's a smoke trail behind him and got really

501
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:04,479
Speaker 2: strong vision, which is obviously a great trait to have

502
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: your running back. But I mean, I was shocked that

503
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 2: this guy wasn't in the conversation as one of the

504
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Speaker 2: top four running backs in the draft after watching him,

505
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Speaker 2: how much of it is especially with the guy in

506
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: North Carolina. Yeah right, what's his name, Maari Hampton? Yeah, Hampton.

507
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 2: So being this size five to nine, little over two hundred,

508
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 2: you can kind of hide behind the offensive line a

509
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: little bit too, right, Yeah, I mean that's not I mean,

510
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: you don't want to pick short guys just so they

511
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: can hide. But I mean, yeah, he has a little

512
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Speaker 2: bit of that. But the impressive part of him is

513
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Speaker 2: the speed, the speed vision. But what impressed me the

514
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: most about him is that he doesn't waste any steps.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of running backs like the guy Ohio

516
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Speaker 2: State that got picked I think is the second running

517
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Speaker 2: back in the draft. He will dance a little bit,

518
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: okay until he figures out where he needs to go

519
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: to none do that. I mean it's once plant and

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Speaker 2: then go. I mean, that's the thing I think that's

521
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 2: impressive about him and is he doesn't waste anytime. His

522
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: offensive linemen are gonna love that fact because he's decisive

523
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: and he's decisive.

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Speaker 3: With good vision.

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Speaker 2: So bam and go north South. That's him. North South

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Speaker 2: with speed. So when you add a quick decision on

527
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: the cut with elite speed, now you're talking angles and

528
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: approaches from defenders are not gonna work as well. And

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Speaker 2: that's why he had all the yards that he had.

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Speaker 3: Let's continue in the fourth round.

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Speaker 2: The Jaguars go linebacker Jack Kaiser out of Notre Dame

532
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Speaker 2: was in South Bend for six years, stuck it out.

533
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Speaker 2: How do you end up at college for six years? Well,

534
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Speaker 2: COVID year so that everybody could get an extra year

535
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Speaker 2: during the COVID rules. A lot of guys took advantage

536
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Speaker 2: of it, and he he came into college in an

537
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Speaker 2: era where nil and transfer rules were not a thing.

538
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Speaker 2: Like you couldn't just go anywhere, and you weren't getting

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Speaker 2: paid much money. At the end, he could have gone

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Speaker 2: other places, he didn't, and he got paid some money

541
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Speaker 2: at the end of the Notre Dame to stick around

542
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Speaker 2: six nine veteran players played a lot of football. He

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Speaker 2: has and and just he was an outstanding I think interview.

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Speaker 2: You know the league has interviews, the teams have the interviews.

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00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: He's a great interview, just like I mean, Tooton was

546
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Speaker 2: an exceptional interview. The running back from Virginia Tech and

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Speaker 2: Kaiser were number twenty four, and that kind of sticks

548
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Speaker 2: in my mind because he's not a big, big guy,

549
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, what did you say he

550
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: was ye six two two twenty something whatever, not a

551
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Speaker 2: monster linebacker like you know Devin Lloyd and him standing

552
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: next to each other, it was thirty one two thirty one.

553
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: There would be a stark difference in size. But really active,

554
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: really active, makes a lot of tackles. And I think

555
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Speaker 2: you was he like the all time leading tackler and

556
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 2: that Notre Dame I think. I think it's something that

557
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: I read somewhere, but watching his film, I mean, the

558
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: guy is always around the ball, active to no get out,

559
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: has great movement skills, but he's a little smaller than

560
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: some of the other linebackers. And I would say this

561
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: about him. I think he's going to make a lot

562
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Speaker 2: of tackles in his career. I think he's going to

563
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: be an exceptional special teams player because he's active and

564
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: he's got that movement. But I think you're going to

565
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: have to protect him a little bit. When I say

566
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: protect him a little bit, you want to have a

567
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: lot of you want to have a lot of beef

568
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: up in front of him so that he can he

569
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: can run clean. If he's got to consistently fight through blocks,

570
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: then that's not going to be him at his best,

571
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: so to speak. But love how active he is, Love

572
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: how how many hell is all. He's got a nose

573
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: for the ball. He's always there. Comes from a hard

574
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: working background, comes from a farm. Did his post pick

575
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: call to the media the family farm. Yeah, like he's

576
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: got I think a thousand acres in Indiana. Had some

577
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: brothers when they all left to go, and they were

578
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: all like athletes, I guess, and then he had to

579
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: take over all their duties and stuff. And I mean, yeah,

580
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: he's got the work ethic and got a little bit

581
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: of track background in the family. I guess a lot

582
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: of his dad and a lot of his brothers and

583
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: him were throwers at the discus and shot don sta. Yeah,

584
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: pretty cool. He's going to be twenty five when the

585
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: season gets here. That's kind of an older rookie, Trevor Lawrence, Yeah,

586
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: isn't it. That's all right? Hey, Look, as long as

587
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: you can play football, I don't care how old you are.

588
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: Taylor McLeod could play football at Auburn certainly in his

589
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: last couple of years started at a state, transferred over.

590
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: He was a six round pick. As a linebacker, he

591
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: was kind of a hybrid type with stand up some

592
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 2: They put him on the edge in certain pass rushing

593
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: downs and twenty four tackles for loss in twenty four

594
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: games at Auburn in his two years on the planes. Yeah,

595
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: he played a lot and with his hand in the ground.

596
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: And I should actually correct that and say hands. At Auburn,

597
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: the edge players play from a four point stand. What's

598
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: the difference there? Why is that a difference. I'm not

599
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: a fan of the four point stance just because I

600
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: think it slows your get off. You're losing a little

601
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: bit of that momentum swing with the back arm. But

602
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: I can tell you this, I mean, there was no

603
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: problem with him doing it. But he's kind of did

604
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: a little bit of both. At Auburn, he was on

605
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: the edge in a four point stance. He would stand

606
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: up in that kind of spinner role where he would

607
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: be a fourth rusher and they'd have three down and

608
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: he would kind of move around and go to different

609
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: gaps and rush. And there were times that he stood

610
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: up as like a spy and played linebacker. Now, at

611
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: the All Star Game that he went to, they played

612
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: him as an inside linebacker, which I think is more

613
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: than likely going to be where he ends up residing at.

614
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: But I think he can give them a guy that

615
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: maybe can contribute some snaps at edge, you know, in

616
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: two minute drill where you're kind of rotating guys through.

617
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: But he's not a real big guy, you know, so

618
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: I want to see that because there's not a lot

619
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: of guys that aren't that big that can do that.

620
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 2: I wonder what his coverability is like if he's gonna play,

621
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: you know, if he's gonna be an outside kind of

622
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: strongside guy. Well, I can tell you this the if

623
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 2: he's gonna I anticipate him playing linebacker here. Okay, I

624
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: think there's gonna be an adjustment period for him. Okay.

625
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: The one thing that's very apparent he's got great closing.

626
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: UH doesn't have He's not a super fast guy, but

627
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: he does a really good job of body control. He's

628
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: got great bend, he's got some natural pass rush moves,

629
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: and he's a very good athlete. But he doesn't have

630
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 2: superior speed. But he's got good speed. But there's always

631
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: an adjustment for a guy that's had his hand in

632
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 2: the round for the most part and then was told

633
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: to sick them to now all of a sudden that

634
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 2: you have to read react, and before you even read

635
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: and react, you've got to be able to adjust the

636
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: assignments and responsibilities in the gap and everything else in

637
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: your mind before the ball has even snapped. Devin Lloyd, right,

638
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: It takes a while, right, Yeah, I mean Devin had

639
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 2: an adjustment period on that as well, right, So we'll

640
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: see what McLeod has. Devin's still in an adjustment period

641
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: to some extent, so I mean still learn it. And

642
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: it's a big year for him, final year of his

643
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: rookie deal. They didn't take the fifth year option, well,

644
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: and that's an opportunity for it going to be a

645
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 2: great opportunity for him, you know. Now he's going to

646
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: have a chance to test the market, have a great year,

647
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: and then you're going to be loving it absolutely. We

648
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: continue here on Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick, Jeff Lockham

649
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 2: and going through the traft picks. We talked Travis Hunter already,

650
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: we've gone third round, we've gone fourth round. Now we're

651
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 2: in the sixth round again. With Raywan laying the third

652
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: safety out of Navy. James Gladstone says, hey, you know,

653
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: most likely you'll see his impact immediately on the special

654
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: team side of things.

655
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: But he had.

656
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: Opportunities after two years. If you're at the academies, you

657
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: can transfer after to you know, within two years without

658
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: penalty or without having to serve and all that. He

659
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: decided to stay and stick it out at Navy and

660
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: played forty nine games for the midship But I think

661
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: that says something right there. I mean, you talk about commitment, right,

662
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: I mean, to stay at Navy when he could have

663
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: left made money and il money maybe improved his opportunities

664
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: in the draft even further. I mean I like that.

665
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: I mean to me, that says something about the person

666
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: now the player watching his film. Very good ball skills,

667
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 2: very good ball skills, the positives, got a good nose

668
00:36:53,960 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: for the ball. Definitely is active, runs well, I will say,

669
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: in open space. At times. Sometimes he misses tackles, which

670
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that anybody in open space can

671
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: do that. But I like his commitment. I like his

672
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 2: his attitude that he plays the game at But he's

673
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: got that one weakness is a tackling in space a

674
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: little bit. That's gonna be something to watch for him.

675
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: But the ball skills that he has JP you know,

676
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: whereas you know earlier we were talking about rams while

677
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: not having the ball skills. Okay, this young man has

678
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: ball skills. Love that m H. And he can play

679
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: immediately because of just not that long ago, they had

680
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: made some changes to the rules for players who have

681
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: finished their years at Navy Army the academies. So basically

682
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: he'll be in the selected reserves as a commissioned officer

683
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: and participated and he'll participate, as they say, at efforts

684
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: to recruit and retain members of the Army. I mean,

685
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: what better way to recruit for the Navy in this

686
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: town then to have a guy that just finished his

687
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: playing career at Navy and is now going to be

688
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 2: an example for all of the other people to maybe

689
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: want to go to play football at Navy or to

690
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: join the Navy itself. Great opportunity for him. I mean,

691
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: if he ends up playing well in this town, there's

692
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of opportunities they're going to open

693
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: up for him. Absolutely, a two base Navy town in Jacksonville. Oh,

694
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: come on, Oh, yeah, kidding me. Well, let's not forget. Okay,

695
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: we've got a couple bases, but then there's another one

696
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: right up the road. Oh yeah, up in Georgia. Correct, Yeah,

697
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: so three within really striking distance. Exactly.

698
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 3: Love that. Let's continue, Let's get the seventh round.

699
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: Picks and logs and Jonah Manheim from Southern California played

700
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: both tackle positions in twenty two and twenty three right tackle,

701
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 2: left tackle, respectively, and then moved into center last year

702
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: for twelve games for SC and I played four of

703
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: the five positions in a career across the line, but

704
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: listed as a center as they picked him. Well, and

705
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: this is one of those guys that I didn't spend

706
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: the hour on. Okay, so I just watched his performance

707
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: last year, so I think the center, And even though

708
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: I haven't watched him play tackle, I don't think he's

709
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 2: got the length to play tackle. He's a six foot four,

710
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: three hundred pounder. I think his room for growth. He's

711
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: got a great base, he's got great awareness. His footwork

712
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: is good. He got to do a little bit better

713
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: sometimes with his first step in gaining ground instead of

714
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: kind of shuffling with it. But balance anticipation. I think

715
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 2: he's going to get bigger to be more effective. Does

716
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: an excellent job getting to the second level. There's not

717
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: many centers that can snap a shotgun snap and that

718
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: can pull and get out front on a wide suite.

719
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: This guy can do that, which is impressive. So I

720
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: think this is a I don't want to say this

721
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: is a I don't think he's going to come in

722
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: and compete right away way for a starting job. I

723
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: don't think you're gonna beat Ainsey out, okay, but I

724
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: think that this is a guy jar on the shelf,

725
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: develop him for a year, maybe two, and that this

726
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: guy may end up being a long term solution at

727
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: center for you. And finally, also in the seventh round,

728
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: the Quint Allen from Syracuse, another running back. I don't

729
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: know if i'd put him at just running back.

730
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: Where are you gonna put him?

731
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: I think he can you can say running back, slash,

732
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: full back, slash, h back slash, tight end. His his

733
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 2: special ability is catching the ball. I mean that's really

734
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: where his special skill set really really shows to me.

735
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: Uh here hurdles a lot of guys once he's out

736
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: in space. Uh got good hands, evasive in the open field.

737
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: You know, they they played him in kind of that

738
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 2: dual role at Syracuse, you know, where they weren't afraid

739
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: to put him out in space and play him as

740
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: a as a slot receiver. Had over five hundred receiving yards,

741
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 2: one of two FBS players with over one thousand rushing

742
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: and five hundred or more receiving scataboos the other one.

743
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, I like this young man. You know,

744
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: look for he's long. Kind of reminds me a little

745
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: bit when he's running, kind of like a Derrick Henry.

746
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: And don't don't get me wrong here, I'm not trying

747
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: to say he runs with that power authority, but just

748
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 2: the length, you know. I mean when you watch Derrick

749
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: Henry run, you notice the length and you thought, well,

750
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 2: he's not moving that fast because his gait is different, right,

751
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: He's gaining a lot of ground with steps. Kind of

752
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: reminds me a little bit of a l quinn Alleny

753
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: just because of the length, but not obviously in the

754
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: same category. You know, a lot of passing game stuff.

755
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: Sixty four catches last year. Let all the running backs

756
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: in college football. Yah, That's why I don't I don't

757
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: think you put him at running back. I think you

758
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: just say, hey, look athlete, But you know you don't

759
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 2: do that in the same kind of way that you

760
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: know years ago the Jaguars draft is somebody out of

761
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: Michigan and decided to put the tag of that fleet

762
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: on the offensive weapon. Yeah, I mean that was Robins. Yeah,

763
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 2: come on, come on, let's just just give him a

764
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: position and let's move forward. But but la Quinn Allen

765
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 2: is uh is a I think he's gonna be fun

766
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: to watch just from the standpoint of you can do

767
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 2: a lot of different things with him. And by the way,

768
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: the Jaguars signed twenty undrafted. Haven't gotten the film on it.

769
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 3: You haven't dug that deep.

770
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: Give me a little time on that. We've got time.

771
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: We'll come back in a moment. Phase two is underway

772
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: for the veterans and we'll get our final thoughts in

773
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: on ten to excel am Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.

774
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm not gonna let no one talking.

775
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: I'm promising that.

776
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: So I feel like I did a good job at.

777
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 6: West Virginia not let no one touch the quarterback. So

778
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 6: that's my goal. I'm not gonna let anyone touch Trevor,

779
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 6: So I'm excited to that.

780
00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: It's Wyatt Milum.

781
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good way to start as an offensive lineman.

782
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: Don't let anybody touch number sixteen.

783
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 3: Good idea. Welcome back.

784
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy Hour JP Shaddick with Jeff Logiven. We're

785
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: at the Hundai Studios on Tentedxlamjaguars dot Com and Jaguars

786
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: YouTube and Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Dream Pinders Homes,

787
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: official homepiitter of the Jacksonville Jaguars. We've gone through the

788
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 2: draft class. They'll have rookie mini camp next weekend, so

789
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: keep an eye out for maybe some possible news on

790
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: that in the next.

791
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 3: Week or so.

792
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: Don't want to ruin it. Meanwhile, veterans are here. Phase

793
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 2: two of the off season program is underway. It started

794
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: on Monday, which means that the coaches can be out

795
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: there for the first time with players. It was no

796
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 2: helmets though, no helmet still, no team drills, no one

797
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: on one stuff. Basically it's just individual drills. Now that's

798
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: you know, that's the pace of the off season and

799
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: nut's the way it should be, you know. But the

800
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: biggest part is is that when you've got a new

801
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: coaching staff like this, the moments that you have on

802
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 2: the grass great teaching opportunity because you've got new systems,

803
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: and so you want to end up having that become

804
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: kind of second nature by the time you hit the

805
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: ground for mini camps. So then then once you get

806
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: the training camp, it's just an afterthought that the system

807
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 2: is already in there and you're not even thinking anymore.

808
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: You're just being an athlete. If you're watching us on

809
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube, you see Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence on

810
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: the field together for the first time. Yeah, there's Diamie

811
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: Brown with the head coach, Liam Cohen, Ryan Thomas Junior.

812
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: I mean, look, this is valuable. You know, this is

813
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: when you want to have as much influence on the

814
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: players as far as the teaching part of it and

815
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: also about establishing your culture and valuable valuable time spent

816
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 2: all in the grass and you can't waste it because

817
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: you know you're limited. You know, you're basically once you

818
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: step out on the grass, you're on the clock. You know,

819
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: the the union and and ownership has the agreements about

820
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: what you can do, how you can do it. And

821
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: how long you can do it. And you've got to

822
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: make the most out of every bit of it. Yeah,

823
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: go up to the light of the rule. It's written

824
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: for a reason, it's negotiated for a reason. What it is,

825
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: you know, and don't try to bend the rules or

826
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 2: anything like that. But you know, just just follow the rules.

827
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 3: I like it.

828
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: We've seen it around here where the rules have been bent, well,

829
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 2: they've been slept in the hand. Well. And I tell

830
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: you what, the Miller Electric Center is an amazing place.

831
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 2: I mean, what a great facility. I mean you compare

832
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: what there is today versus what it used to be

833
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: like for the Jaguars here. I mean, it's night and day,

834
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: night and day. Every modern amenity tool is there for

835
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 2: the players. It's all right at their fingertips. It's all convenient.

836
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: I mean, kudos to the city, kudos to Shad because

837
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: this place is top notch. Everything he needs right here.

838
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: Why would you go anywhere else? You don't need to,

839
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: You don't, you don't need to at all. By the way,

840
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: they signed a defensive end Ogba. What do you think

841
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: I like him? Why did we wait like two years,

842
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: three years to sign another edge player? You're asking the

843
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: wrong guy. That guy's not around anymore. I don't know, Like, wait,

844
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: wait a minute. You gotta have you gotta have guys

845
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: that can rotate in. I mean I'm talking legitimate guys.

846
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: And last year the best guy that they had that

847
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: they were going to roll in traded them to another team.

848
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: And I was going Roy robertson Harris, No, not Roy.

849
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 2: They traded them. Well, they both ended up going to Seattle.

850
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: He was an edge player. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway,

851
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: he was the depth. He was your third guy, and

852
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: they traded him right before the season began, and I

853
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: was like, well, wait a minute, Trevis Gibson, Yes, Trevis Gibson, okay,

854
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 2: from the Tennessee Titans. They got right, And look, I mean,

855
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 2: no offense to Miles Cole, okay, But Miles Cole wasn't

856
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: ready to be a third guy in the rotation, and

857
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: he showed that last year. He's got a ways.

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Speaker 3: To go yet.

859
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Ogba former second round pick Brown Miamistry year Dolphins

860
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 2: for five seasons.

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Speaker 3: How many sacks did you have in your career? Logs?

862
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: Oh I don't, oh, don't act like you. I don't remember.

863
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: Passed forty three and a half in it.

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00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: It's about somewhere about what I had something like that.

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00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: He's a good player, veteran guy, been there, done that.

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00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: When he lines up, you're not sitting there worried about,

867
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Speaker 2: oh my god, is he gonna get smoked or oh

868
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 2: my god, he's not going to be able to do anything.

869
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: You're okay, veteran guy. Put him in. We're okay. We

870
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: can give these guys a break for the record. Jeff

871
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: Logman career sacks forty seven. Yeah, that was right around there.

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Speaker 3: Happened when he passes.

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00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: You this year, Oh, congratulates. I'll shake his hand. I'll say,

874
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: good job man. Not hard to do. If I could

875
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: stay it healthy, I might have had a few more that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's everybody right.

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Speaker 2: Well, part of the game. The way the game is,

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00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 2: what do they always say? JP? Availability always supersedes what ability?

879
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: Ability exactly. But you can't spell certain ones without the

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00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: words of ability availability. Availability cannot be spelled without some

881
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 2: of the letters from ability, like the whole word almost.

882
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 2: But you don't use the B and availability. I guess

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00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: you do.

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

885
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: What is wrong? Well? That's the am I right. You

886
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: cannot spell, you cannot spell one without the other. That's

887
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: the only point I.

888
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 3: Was making, right, But it's the same.

889
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: Never mind, it is the ability and availability. You just

890
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: had to be in another What are we doing? But

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, JP, I'm glad they got Agba to

892
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: go back to our original point because you gotta have three. Now,

893
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 2: everybody's kind of freaking out about the whole We didn't

894
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: do anything in the draft to address our defensive line.

895
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 2: I think people need to take a step back and

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00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: take a deep breath on that.

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Speaker 3: Take a chill pill.

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00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: Okay, No, not a chill pill, because that kind of

899
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 2: implying to take a drug. Don't take a drug. It relax, Okay,

900
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: Ogba is exactly it. I thought that they may address

901
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: edge in the draft because that's the position. I thought

902
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 2: that they needed to find some depth in. But by

903
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: doing that with Ogba, to me, okay, you got it,

904
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Speaker 2: and everybody's like, okay, what are you gonna do at

905
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Speaker 2: defensive tackle? I feel good about Jordan Jefferson, Devon Hamilton, Okay,

906
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: Eric Armstead, I'm okay with those guys. I think they'll

907
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: be okay next week. Between now and then, I don't

908
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Speaker 2: teach you how to spell and then next week I

909
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Speaker 2: need a little bit liston Lane will be with us

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Speaker 2: last week, so that's coming up next week. Thanks to

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Speaker 2: Jeff Flogerman, I'm j P. Shadwick, Joe Fortunado, David cho

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Speaker 2: our entire crew. Thanks to you for listening to Jaguars

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Speaker 2: Happy Hour.