1 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Luteus. If it doesn't work, you're just not using enough. 2 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to Software Radio, Special Operations, Military wails and 3 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: straight talk with the guys in the community. Hey, what's up. 4 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 1: This is rad with Software up Radio. I just want 5 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: to talk to you a little bit about checking in 6 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: on your mental health, your neighbor, your friends, maybe even 7 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: the local stranger. Okay, maybe you're struggling, maybe you're fighting 8 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: some personal battles, that's okay. 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Eight four four two seven to 26 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: eight five to two, twenty four hours a day, Stop Suicide. Hey, 27 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: what's up? Welcome to this edition of soft Rep Radio. 28 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: I am your host, rad and I have a very 29 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: special guest who's joining me today, and that is Jason 30 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: Van Camp, former United States Special Forces believe it's the 31 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: tenth Group Detachment commander at one point in your career. 32 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: Also West Point football alumni. Correct me if I'm wrong. 33 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: Is that correct? So far you're getting close, man. So 34 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm a Green Beret, that's true. I was intense group, 35 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: that's true. And I have a West Point graduate that's true. 36 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: And I played football at west Point. So so far, 37 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: so good, and I'm really honored to have you on 38 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: the show today. Now, Jason, I just want to kind 39 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: of dive into some of the things that you're all 40 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: about and let our listeners in on it. You know, so, 41 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: you're also an author So You've written a book called 42 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: Deliberate Discomfort, and I've been seeing it all over the 43 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: place on on my feed as I follow Deliberate Discomfort 44 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: and the Mission six zero on Facebook, and I see 45 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: all these challenges that folks are putting themselves into because 46 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: of you and helping them to pull it out of themselves. 47 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: So tell me about deliberates, tell us about Deliberate Discomfort. Oh, 48 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: i'd be my honor and Rad You're not go way back, man. 49 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: So you know my mindset. It's about doing hard things. 50 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: It's about choosing hard before hard chooses you, you know. 51 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: And it's sort of counterintuitive that you have to place 52 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: yourself in the position of doing hard things in order 53 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: to make life comfortable for yourself. But that's that's live 54 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: that's the way that it is. That's that's how it works, 55 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: you know. And so I wrote a book called Deliberate Discomfort, 56 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: How US Special Operations Forces overcome fear and dare to 57 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: win by getting comfortable being uncomfortable. You can see it 58 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: over here, right here, where a thumb is pointed a 59 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: book on my bookshelf, and you can obviously see the amazing, 60 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, American flag behind me as well, so I've 61 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: got dad behind me right here with his beret right there, 62 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: so you know, I love it man right there. And 63 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: as listeners know, Rad's dad was a Green Beret too, 64 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: So we're a good company. Yeah. So I wrote the book, 65 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: so it published literally days before the COVID nineteen pandemic hit, 66 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: so it was it was a book that was very 67 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: relevant at the time because we had placed ourselves intentionally, 68 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: deliberately in an uncomfortable position with that whole situation. But 69 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: for many of us, life was better as a result 70 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: of that. Businesses thrived, not all of them, but some 71 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: of them thrived. Relationships got stronger, we became stronger, individuals 72 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: became more self reliant, and things like that. So I 73 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: started this company called Missions zero, and I always knew 74 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: that in order for Missions zero to thrive, I needed 75 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: to have curriculum. I needed to write a book. And 76 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: so for many years I had about what I would 77 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: write if I were ever to write a book, and 78 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: about my experiences not just in the military, but the 79 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: amazing people I've met in my career, and then also 80 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: the businesses that we've helped at Mission six zero. So 81 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: our clients and we have many clients in the NFL 82 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: professional sports teams as well, and corporate clients and so forth, 83 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: and so um. I kind of slow plated. I didn't 84 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: want to rush to failure. For years and years, collected 85 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: stories and things like that, and then I finally put 86 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: it to paper, and essentially what it is, it's it's 87 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 1: a leadership book, and it talks about my personal experiences 88 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: right after I joined, right after I earned my green 89 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: beret and reported to my unit for the first time, 90 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: and I meet my company commander in chapter one, and 91 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: essentially what happens is my commander says, Jason, I'm gonna 92 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: assign you to a team. You're gonna command this team. 93 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: You're gonna command this team in combat. It's gonna be 94 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: a stressful situation. In order for you to not only survive, 95 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: but thrive. These are the things that I need you 96 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: to learn and internalize. And in order for you to 97 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: do that, there are people in this company that I 98 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: would call heroes that I want you to meet with 99 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: and learn about them and ask them questions because I 100 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: want you to adopt a similar mindset if you're going 101 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: to succeed as a commander. And so every chapter in 102 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: the book I meet somebody new and we have a 103 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: conversation about their experiences in life, in combat, that sort 104 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: of thing, why they are the people that they are. 105 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: And then I break that down scientifically. So an amazing 106 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: member of my Mission six zero team, one of our scientists, 107 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: they break it down the theme of that chapter in 108 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: two A, so whaton and now what? So it's relevant 109 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: for you. So it's not just an inspiring story, it's 110 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: something you can take with you moving forward and use 111 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: it apply it to your life. And then the third 112 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: section of each chapter is a practical application. So it's saying, hey, listen, 113 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: we're not just talking about this, we actually did this, 114 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: and we did this with this client New York Jets 115 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: or Minnesota Vikings or Oakland Raiders or you know, Seattle 116 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: Mariners or whoever. This is what they experience, this is 117 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: what they learned, and this is what went well and 118 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: what didn't go well. You know. So I'm really proud 119 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: of the book. It's you get it on Amazon right now. 120 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: I think I'm not sure how many reviews or five 121 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: stars or whatever, but I think we're like four point 122 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: eight stars. I think we have about five hundred or 123 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: so reviews. So you know it, read it, you know, 124 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: just get in it, read it, and write your own 125 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: review about it, right, as long as the good review 126 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: an honest review. Right. Sometimes people have a reading comprehension, 127 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta think like some people probably struggled 128 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: in the third grade, and they gotta that would put 129 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: them in a deliberate discomfort to have to read a 130 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: book like of such thickness or for whatever the case. 131 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: Maybe let me ask you a question about being deliberately 132 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: discomfort maybe on so your airborne, right, So airborne is 133 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: jumping out of airplanes and being ready to deploy on 134 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: his moment's notice. So you're airborne being a Green Beret, 135 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: And I love to ask my airborne, have you had 136 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: any crazy you know? Oh no, how am I gonna 137 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: get out of the situation? My my lines are all 138 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: tangled up? Or anybody on the plane have you ever 139 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: had a shuffle up? An? Oh no moment I have. 140 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: So let me take a step back. So I always 141 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: saw my entire life, I said, you know, jumping out 142 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: of a plane would be the coolest thing ever. And 143 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: then I finally did it, and it surpassed all my expectations. 144 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: It was even cooler than I thought it was awesome 145 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: and I loved it. Every time I jumped out of 146 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: a plane, there's always a feeling of you're very nervous, 147 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, you don't know what's gonna happen, but as 148 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: soon as that parachute opens, you feel great, like this 149 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: is easy, you know, And then there's a little bit 150 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: of attention right before you're about to land, but then 151 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: it usually works out. Um for that. I never got 152 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: the opportunity to be Halo. I always wanted to be. 153 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: I tried really hard to get on a HALO team 154 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: so high altitude low opening. I was able to get 155 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: hey Ho qualified so high altitude high opening. So we 156 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: did some when I was on my team as a commander, 157 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: we did some experimental parachute testing in Eloy, Arizona, and 158 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: did that hey Ho jumps, so it was it was 159 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: a lot of fun down there and one of our 160 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: jumps and hey Ho training. You start out slick, so 161 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: basically it's just you and the parachute, and then you 162 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: add like a rucksack, and then you had a rucksack 163 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: and a weapon, and then you add some more equipment 164 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: and you do it at daytime at night. Progressive over jumps. 165 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: So yeah, you progress jump starts out in baby steps. 166 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: It's a baby step exactly. And you learned to pack 167 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: your own shoot and you you know when doing after 168 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: the next. And so the first time that we jumped 169 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: with equipment, you have the equipment, your ruck stack basically 170 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: hanging down between your legs, so you're kind of shuffling 171 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: like a crab outside the door, and you have your 172 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: weapon basically tied to your arm, you know, in a 173 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: way where it doesn't restrict you from moving, but it's secure, 174 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: you know, so you can pull it out, pull your 175 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: weapon out if needs be, and so forth. So we jumped, 176 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, things are kind of weird. 177 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: You know, parachute canopy deploys but not all the way. 178 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: And I look and things are going fast, but in 179 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: your mind it's like kind of going slow. You know. 180 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: The cords on the canopy had somehow wrapped around the 181 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: butt stock of my weapon, which was sort of attached 182 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: to my left arm, And all of a sudden, it 183 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: was sort of like a pendulum and I started oscillating 184 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: and I started moving to circles, and at first it 185 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: was slow, and I started going faster and faster and faster, 186 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: and you know what goes through your mind. It's like, 187 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: oh damn, I can't believe this is happening. And then 188 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: you think, well, is somebody's gonna come and help me out? 189 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: And you're realized, like, no, nobody's gonna come help me out, 190 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: Like I gotta figure this out my own, and so like, 191 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: all right, So I tried pulling him, pulling the cords 192 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: off the butt stock, and they were wrapped around a 193 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: few times, tight in the tension. You're like your weight 194 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: against the shoot and it's probabe tight around that stock. 195 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: I'll bet you, oh, bro so tight, so tight, and 196 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't budget, and you know, I was like, all right, 197 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do? Think? I was like, 198 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: all right, get rid of the main parachute and deploy 199 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: your reserve parachute. And I'm like, I'm still tied to 200 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: the bus side of my weapon. If I let go 201 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: of the main parachute, it might be even worse because 202 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: it would still be stuck on my weapon, and I 203 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen. And then you know, I'm 204 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: spinning faster and faster and faster, and honestly, like in 205 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: my mind, I was starting to like lose consciousness and 206 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: we were going so fast. I was like, not good. 207 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: I started to panic just a little bit. I was like, oh, 208 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: this is really not good. And so I said, oh, 209 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: I have my knife, and I pulled my knife out 210 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: of my pocket. And in my mind this is like 211 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: going on for minutes. But in reality, as I you know, 212 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: in hindsight, I look back on it, this is probably 213 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: like fifteen seconds of me like making decisions, you know. 214 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: So I pull out my knife and I'm starting to 215 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: cut the chords, and I'm like, wait a second. I'm like, 216 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: what if I you know, I'm thinking, what if I 217 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: start falling and I can't I start spinning around, I 218 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: can't grab my reserve. I'm like, maybe that's not a 219 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: good idea. So I put my knife down, like all right, 220 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it one one more chance, and all 221 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: during this time, for whatever reason, if you've been on 222 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: a team, you know, like how much ship talk there is. 223 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: You know, any little thing that happens, your guys are 224 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: gonna make fun of you or give you a hard time. 225 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: So in my mind, the one thing I was concerned 226 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: about not so much my life, but like, oh man, 227 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: the guy's gonna give me such a hard time for this, 228 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: Like they're gonna be laughing at me, Like I'm never 229 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: gonna live this down. You know. It had nothing to 230 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: do with me. It wasn't my fault that she didn't 231 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: deploy correctly, you know. So I'm like, I'm gonna give 232 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: it one last chance. So I kind of prop up 233 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: a little bit and I just started pulling and pulling 234 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: and pulling, and like just adrenaline, I was able to 235 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: like pull the cords off of my buttstock and the 236 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: parachute popped open and it just spun around like a 237 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: million times, like like I just untangled itself and it 238 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: was deployed completely where I didn't have to pull my reserve, 239 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: just maybe a feet off the ground, and I was 240 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: way off target. I was nowhere close to where we're 241 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: supposed to land, and I landed in the desert some 242 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: point break stuff, bro, like the movie Point Break, Dude, 243 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: It's like you're just falling to the earth. Bro. I 244 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: thought it was a Reagan Reagan mask on man, That's 245 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: what I'm telling you right now. That's all I'm thinking. 246 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: It's just like Holy cow, Point Break. If you've seen 247 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: that movie, where they're just like rolling all over each 248 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: other and just trying to figure life out in the 249 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: middle of the air. Dude, I can only imagine that's 250 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: what you were doing, bro. It was. It was insane. 251 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: I hit the ground and you know, like I got 252 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: the parachute all picked up, and it was just quiet, 253 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, like it was just like middle of nowhere, desert, 254 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: not a soul in sight, the winds blowing. I'm like, 255 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: this is surreal, you know. I'm looking around. It's kind 256 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: of a weird. Like my I think my eyes were 257 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: still whatever, and you know, my mind was in the 258 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: right place. And so I picked up my radio and 259 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: I called I tried to radio my guys, you know, 260 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: and my radio wasn't working for some reason. It's kind 261 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: of worse. So I had my cell phone. I pick 262 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: up my cell phone and I start no bars on 263 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: my cell phone. Nothing. I'm like, this is weird. I 264 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: look up in the sky and then there's a parachute, 265 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: another parachute that's slowly falling down from the sky and 266 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: it lands out too far from me, and then a 267 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: thought comes to my mind. I'm like, am I dead? 268 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: Like did I die? Like, you know, it was that 269 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: my parachute, like, my stuff isn't working. This is a 270 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: weird feeling, the winds blowing, and so I had that 271 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: moment of like, is something weird going on here? You know? 272 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god. And then all of a sudden, I 273 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: see my guys in a in a truck rolling up 274 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: and then there's like, oh, we thought you were gonna die. Man, 275 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: you didn't open your shoot. I was like, you know, yeah, 276 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: thank god, I'm alive. And and I was like, what's 277 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: that shoot? And then they were like, well, Scott behind 278 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: you he had a malfunction as well, and he pulled 279 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: away and that was his shoe. So that's what I saw. 280 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: And so that's a long story, man, But that's the 281 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: only time I've ever had a parachute malfunction. Was was 282 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: during that experience in Arizona, but it was one that 283 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: I remembered yet. I mean, even for like a static 284 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: line jump, that's kind of high. So you have like 285 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: usually feet for those to five foot for a static line. 286 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: So hajo is where you're planning to open up at 287 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: high altitude pretty much right when you jump out of 288 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: the aircraft, right, and so that's right, and then you're 289 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: gonna like glide in. Maybe, like is that how that 290 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: we're sort of pilot You sort of pilot yourself in 291 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: so you have to kind of read the wind and 292 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: you follow each other, and especially it's hard at night, 293 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, but you kind of your your own airplane 294 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: in a way, and you kind of like just pull 295 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: yourself into the target location. What's the highest you ever 296 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: hay holed from? Oh gosh, if I remember correctly, I 297 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: don't want to say anything wrong, but I think it 298 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: was twelve thousand, because anything over twelve thousand you need oxygen, 299 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: and so I think we went. Twelve thousand was the 300 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: highest we've jumped out. I've never jumped with oxygen before. 301 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: A lot of Halo teams do. And again, I one 302 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: of my biggest regrets in military is not being able 303 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: to convince my my higher ups that that I was 304 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: I could go to to Halo school. It was sort 305 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: of not making bro, you deserved Halo. Well, you know, honestly, 306 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: we're at everybody at the time. I think it's Halo 307 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: for everybody now, but at the time everybody was trying 308 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: to be Halo. Everyone's running gun for it. It was 309 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: just a very, very tough, tough to get my little 310 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: ribbon to have right here with like the little wing 311 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: and whatnot, the halo way cool ribbon, but not just that. 312 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: It's just so cool to do, man, just to have 313 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: that skill set, you know, just cool. You got any 314 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: foreign airborne jumps like with like the fridge? I never 315 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: did that. I know there's some a few opportunities to 316 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: do that. I never did that. You never got that opportunity. 317 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: Now let me segue to your football Uh. I find 318 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: that to be the most cool part. You know. I 319 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: grew up with a Green Ray, so I'm like, okay, cool, cool. 320 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: But the way that you guys line up on that 321 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: with your badges sewn onto your uniforms of like I'm 322 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: going to be an artillery commander or ranger, you know, 323 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: I mean, what's the process putting on that uniform when 324 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: you're like, I'm really on West Points team? Bro. I 325 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: love baseball like I love sports, and I love that camaraderie. 326 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: And what was that like you had to have been 327 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: like I made it to the football field here, so 328 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: yes and no, I suppose. So there's a sign near 329 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: when I played, there was a sign near the locker 330 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: room and said, when you think you've arrived. You haven't. 331 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: You never arrived. That was a big sign by the 332 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: locker room. So it was kind of inspiring for the 333 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: guys to just work hard every single day and don't 334 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: get a big head, you know, don't get arrogant, don't 335 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: don't think that you're you've made it yet, because you 336 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: know you've never made it. You know, that's sort of mentality. 337 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: It was a really hard, really hard experience. You know. Um, 338 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: I think most anybody that's played in college football, when 339 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: you get recruited in high school, they recruit you as 340 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: though you're you're the next big thing, you're a god. 341 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: And you show up and they have like, you know, 342 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: for the official visit, they have your own personal locker 343 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: and they have your jersey in the locker with your 344 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: name on it, you know, and you're like, you're gonna 345 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: be a starter from David waited to did here, and 346 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: you're like, oh man, this is awesome. You get excited, 347 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: and then you show up for the first day and 348 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: like who are you? What's your name again? Okay, you know, 349 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: and then they throw all those guys and like the 350 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: the Annex locker room with all the nineteen fifties lockers 351 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: and you know your jersey numbers like ninety nine, you 352 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: know whatever, and you're a receiver, you know, Like that's 353 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: kind of like ship man, Like this is not good, 354 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: but it's a good It's good in a way because 355 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: you have to work. You just you just like, listen, 356 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: I can't worry about this stuff right now. All I 357 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: have to do is put my head down and put 358 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: one ft for the other and work my ass off 359 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: every single day and eventually I'll get noticed, and eventually, 360 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, I'll be where I want to be. And 361 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: that was really cool. There was a sign another side 362 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: in the locker room and said National Champions of Toughness. 363 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: And when you first saw it, you're kind of like, 364 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure that sits with me, because it's 365 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: almost as though we're conceding that we're never going to 366 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: be national champions at West Point. And you don't want 367 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: to hear what you can't do, you know what I mean, 368 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: Like you would be like, there's a chance, there's a 369 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: way we work our asses off and everything everything works out, 370 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: and like we get a couple of lucky breaks, we 371 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: could be national champions. And I think our coach at 372 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: the time put it out there in that way, and 373 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: I think that was erroneous. I don't think you should 374 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: have done it that way. But the way we looked 375 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: at it at that sign was we are the toughest 376 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: dudes on the planet. Like nobody is tougher than a 377 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: West Point football player. Nobody in college football has to 378 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: do the stuff that we have to do, Like nobody 379 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: has to fulfill all these other requirements that we have 380 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: to do, such a dedication just to be at West 381 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: Point with PT and another PT at probably football physical training, 382 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: Like you got it, man, Like it's not just for 383 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: most guys. It's like, hey, football, you go to you 384 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 1: go to classes. You don't have to go to classes 385 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: if you don't want to. You don't have to get 386 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: grades if you don't want to. You can go out 387 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: on dates if you want to. You can go hang 388 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: out with your friends. You can go out, you can 389 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: go drink, you can go have fun. Now that should 390 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: happens at West Point. I mean, you can't do any 391 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: of that stuff. You gotta waiting up, you know, four 392 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, go to classes. You can't skip 393 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: into classes. You can't miss one. You know, you gotta 394 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: go to mandatory lunch, mandatory meetings at lunch, and then 395 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: right after your last class of the day, within seconds, 396 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: you're on a bus being bust up to the stadium 397 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: where you practice for two and a half hours, and 398 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: then you get your workout in and then if you're lucky, 399 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: you'll get back down in time to get yelled at 400 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: by some upperclassmen and then get you know, whatever homework 401 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: you have to get done before eleven o'clock lights out, 402 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: turns up and it slides out and you do the 403 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: whole thing over again, and so it's you know, it's 404 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: crazy to think back, this is I did that, you 405 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: know as an eighteen year old kid. Nine year old kid, 406 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: that's crazy. You had some direction that some drive, dude, 407 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: that's it. I mean when I went in the military, 408 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm at a seventeen year old and I was like, 409 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: he's like, do you know why I joined? I'm all 410 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: why to get a exis? It's like, what are you 411 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: talking about? He's like, how many seventeen year olds do 412 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: you know driving around in Las Vegas with a two 413 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: door Lexus. It's like I don't. He's like exactly. I 414 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: was like what okay? I was like, I joined up. 415 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: I don't care about college. I'm here for the flag. 416 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: He's like, I just want to get alexis each his zone. 417 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: I suppose dem right, yeah, determination and drive. Did you 418 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: have to shine boots when you went through? Did you 419 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: ever shine? Yeah? I did? Like I see, here's the thing. 420 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: When I joined when I was eighteen and I went 421 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: as a freshman, I wasn't very prepared, you know, first 422 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: the maturity level as most eighteen year old you know, 423 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: I wasn't there yet. I wanted to have fun, you know, 424 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: play pranks, you know, like that is kind of my mindset. 425 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: Enjoyed life, you know, get stories. And I never shined 426 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: a boot in my life. I had no idea how 427 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: to shine a boot. And I don't want to say 428 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: I was alone. Like when I showed up West Point, 429 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: like first day you have to shine boots and don't 430 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: really show you how to do it, and so and 431 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: you're like, am I alone? And you look around and 432 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: there's like nine other football players, like I don't know, 433 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: how do you do that? You know? And so you shine. 434 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: It looks terrible, looks like you like, you know, musha 435 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: hershey bar on the right on the boot. And then 436 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: you give you a hard time and then eventually eventually 437 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: you get it right, you know and conon swabs little water, 438 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: some circle motions, spitting on it, you know, like small 439 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: little you know, like that whole thing in circular certain emotions, 440 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, getting a lighter, you know, and doing all 441 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: that stuff and your low quarters and your boots and 442 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: so I don't know if they do that anymore at 443 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: West Point because the uniforms have changed to like multi SAMs, 444 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: like you just wear your desert boots, desert temperate. Yeah, 445 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: they're like, there's not really anybody. I think maybe with 446 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: Class a's they probably have some shiny shoes, but I 447 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 1: bet they're pleather with wind X. Yeah, so you can 448 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: just go that route, um little windex on there, wipe 449 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: it off. But bro, I can't. I don't think I've 450 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: shined shoe since I was a senior in college. Man, Yeah, 451 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: I don't think I have. So it wasn't like a 452 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: life skill that I've I've taken with me, you know, 453 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: to mean, so my jungle boots, right, they could use 454 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: a shine. I'm just showing my boot on here, Okay, 455 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: it's right by me. There's nothing like going to the 456 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 1: north strooms here in Salt Lake and sitting down at 457 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: the dude and saying, Hey, you think you can put 458 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: a shine on my jungle boots? He looks at me 459 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: like I can, And they asked, like six bucks? I 460 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: give him a twenty dude, I'm like, my size fifteens 461 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: need to be polished. Yeah. So, Jason, the West Point 462 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: is uh. It sounds like a really awesome experience and 463 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: one that you had to dedicate yourself to prior to 464 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: getting there. Do you have a piece of advice that 465 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: you would give a senior right now who is thinking 466 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: that West Point is there? What do I need to 467 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: get in? What's that? Maybe key? You know? Yeah, So 468 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: for seniors right now that want to get into West Point, 469 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's very difficult, you know, and I 470 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: can't tell you whether you're gonna get in or you're not. 471 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: But if you do get in, here's what I would 472 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: do to prepare, you know, realize it's going to be hard, 473 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: very hard. Talk to as many graduates as you can 474 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: to get a feel of their experiences, you know, and 475 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: what they learned, lessons learned from you know, four years 476 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: of of working hard and grinding. I couldn't tell you 477 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: what West Point's like, now, I haven't been there in many, 478 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: many years. But then if I were to talk to 479 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: myself as an eighteen year old, I would say, you know, 480 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: here's what you're going to sacrifice. Here's what it's going 481 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: to be like. Here's what you need to do to 482 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: mentally prepare yourself. Here's the bugle notes that you need 483 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: to memorize before you even show up. Here's how to 484 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: shine a boot. Let's go to the range and I'll 485 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: show you how to fire a rifle. You know, here's 486 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: a pop up target. Here's how to shoot a pop 487 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 1: up target. And this is what they're looking for. Here's 488 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: how to read a map. You know, here's a compass. 489 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: Here's how you use a compass. Now it's are as 490 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: classes go. I would say, you know, figure out the 491 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: classes that you want to take right now. You know 492 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: what direction you want to go, and you can always 493 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: change later if you don't want to do it. But 494 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: I kind of felt pressure to go the engineering route, 495 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: like most of us have a minor and engineering at 496 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: West Point or track and engineering, and that just wasn't 497 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: my thing. Like I'm not a math guy, more of 498 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: a you know, history guy, English guy, foreign language guy. 499 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: Those are things that really sparked my interest that I 500 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: that I like doing the classes that you may or 501 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: may not be prepared for. Don't be afraid or freak out, 502 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: you know the first day, you know, understand that you 503 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: can get help by relying on the people in your 504 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: class and then going to professors, professors for additional instruction. 505 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: First class, I went to a West Point you know 506 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: when when classes started nine am on a Monday, was 507 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: Discrete Dynamical Systems. And I remember walking into that class. 508 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: They handed out these HP calculators, these really nice ones. 509 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: I've never even seen one before. I was just used 510 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: to the the normal like calculator. Okay, take out your calculator, 511 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: get it going, here's what we're gonna do. Now here's 512 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: the next, you know, algorithm. And I'm just like, I 513 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: don't even know how to open the calculator, Like I 514 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: have no idea. I'm like, oh my god, I'm waiting 515 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: over my head. This is day one. The first ten 516 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: minutes of this class. I said, it's a calculating idea. 517 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: What's going on? To figure out the calculator? And so 518 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 1: I started to panic, like, oh my gosh, how am 519 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: I good? And I looked around the room, and certainly 520 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: there's a few people guys and girls that are just 521 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: like totally tracking and they're like, you know, five steps 522 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: ahead of the professor. Then there're the guys that are 523 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: just like looking at you like holy shit, like what 524 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: are we gonna how are we gonna get by? Like 525 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: are you with me? Man? Do you know how to 526 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: work this calculum? But I don't know. I don't know 527 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: what's going on. And so I hang out with those 528 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: guys and and you know, support each other, and you 529 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: you'll eventually figure it out if you just put one 530 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: ft in front of the other every single day exactly. 531 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: And I get that. You know, my daughter, she's pretty smart. 532 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: Smart matth and me just figured out that calculator. Bro. 533 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: I just was like, okay, you made an sasles on 534 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: the calculator. I know how to spell boobs. Yeah, you know. 535 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: It's like so we're all a little good at something. 536 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: That's what makes a team so dynamic as each person 537 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: on that team brings together some smarts, you know, and 538 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: then they make the manager look good. Right, It's like, hey, 539 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: thank you for knowing how to turn the calculator on. 540 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: I actually know how to sharpen the pencil. So I'll 541 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: do that. It's like, let's get this stuff now. I 542 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: know the story a little bit, but I kind of 543 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: want to let my listener know about how you were 544 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: ditched trying to become SF by your battle buddy, like 545 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: he was supposed to be there. What's that story? You 546 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: were like, Hey, you know, I think we're gonna become 547 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: Green Berets today. Can you elaborate on how you and 548 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: your friends feel free to call him out? Oh? Yeah, so, 549 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: and these are my good buddies, and I don't know 550 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: if they mind or not, but it's a true story. 551 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: So it seems like in the military, the things, the 552 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: high level courses you know that I went to. I 553 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: only did it because I was going to do it 554 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: with a good friend of mine, you know, and they're 555 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: the ones that had the idea and the passion to 556 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: do it. Now I was just sort of like, I'll 557 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: do it with you, you know sort of thing. And 558 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: so Ranger School, I know, I know desire to go 559 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: to Ranger school, but my good buddy and he wanted 560 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: to go, and we went to a Ranger School briefing 561 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: and and the next day we had our pre Ranger PT. 562 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: You started like four am. So you show up at 563 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: it's this field and and they're just gonna smoke your 564 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: bags for like two hours, just like destroy you. And so, 565 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, I was like, all right, I'll get up 566 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: for this. I'll do it with Andy, me and him. 567 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: It will be fun and you know, I'll get in 568 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: good shape and who knows, maybe I can become a ranger. 569 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: So I show up and they were like a hundred 570 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: other guys that showed up on the first day a 571 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: ranger pre Ranger PT, but none of them were named 572 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: Andy Rees, you know. So he didn't show up and 573 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: saw like by myself looking for Andy, like where this 574 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: guy at? Just get my my bag? Smoke for two 575 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: hours and then I go back to the barracks and 576 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: he's still like he's in his boxers. You know, he's 577 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: like rubbing sleep from his eyes. Oh man, four o'clock 578 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: came so early. I'm sorry, man, you know, and kind 579 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: of shut the door and I'm just like, are you 580 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: kidding me? Man, Like I can't quit now. Like I 581 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: showed up for the first day, I'm in this thing, 582 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, So I had to buy into it myself. 583 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: And and Green Barry training was kind of the same thing. 584 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: I just got off of a deployment, the initial evasion 585 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: of Iraq, and we were there for like a year 586 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: or so. And it was around the time when a 587 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: lot of the my classmates at West Point they were 588 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: thinking about getting out. We're sort of getting close to 589 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: our four or four or five year mark, and people 590 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: were thinking about like this, I'm gonna get out, this 591 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do next. But if you're gonna stay in, 592 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: it was kind of like, all right, if I stay in, 593 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: then it's almost as if you're committing to a career 594 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: in the military, or you're committing to, you know, at 595 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: least something significant. And my buddy Jesse, he was kind 596 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: of the same situation, like, oh, Man, I want to 597 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: go SF Jay, you should do it with me. Man 598 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: will be green Berets. You know, I'll be awesome. We'll 599 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: go through training together. And and Jessie and I had 600 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: gone to ranger school together and he's a total stud, 601 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: total leader, and and he convinced me. I was like, 602 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'll go with Jesse. This would be fun. 603 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: And I over the course of a few months, I 604 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: started in my mind started like getting comfortable with the 605 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: idea of of doing this, going to selection, going to qualification, 606 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: of course, becoming a Green Beret, doing things at Green 607 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: Berets do. And so getting ready to go to Camp McCall, 608 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: which is at Fort Bragg, Jesse uh got arrested, and 609 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: so he got arrested, uh, and he got in trouble 610 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: with his unit. He got arrested for drinking, you know, 611 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: and so he got his packet revoked for selection. And 612 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: so just days before we're supposed to go out. So 613 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm on a bus going to Camp McCall, essentially by myself, 614 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: no Jesse, and I'm just like, what did I get 615 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: myself into? Man? Like, why am I doing this to myself? 616 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: And and while I'm here and I'm not gonna quit, 617 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it my best shot. And as I 618 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: went through the selection process, I loved it. Every second 619 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 1: of it was awesome, and I was like, this is 620 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: these are my people, this is my thing. I think 621 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: I found it. I went to the qualification course and 622 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: I had a great time, learned a lot and I'm 623 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: glad I did it. I'm very glad I did it, 624 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: very glad that my friends convinced me to do it. 625 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: What was your emotion when you got to put the 626 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: green beret on for the first time, Like, did you 627 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: finally realize that you have made it? No, you know 628 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: that message from Army Football has been so ingrained in me, 629 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: like I never feel like I've made it, Like like 630 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: today is day sixty one of the sixty day Delivered 631 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: Discomfort Challenge. So it's a sixty day program that we 632 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: have virtually and it's very difficult. And our class one 633 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: we started on January three, finished on March three, and 634 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: yesterday was our last day. And so today was the 635 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: first day I got to rest a little bit and 636 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: there's a feeling of accomplishment that I did this hard thing. 637 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad it's over. I'm very excited to have a 638 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: cheat meal. I'm going out to Ruth's Chris Daycouse tonight 639 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: with I watched a Tomahawk you know about that. But 640 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: it's not as though, like, Okay, it's over now. Now 641 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about what's the next thing. And so for me, 642 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: it's I'm gonna go train for an iron Man now. 643 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do an iron bat race in Tulsa, 644 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: Oklahoma and May, and so I feel good about the 645 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: swimming and the running, but the bike I'm not feeling 646 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: good about. So I have to really start focusing on 647 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: the bike to get it going. So back to your 648 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: question about you know, not feeling like I've arrived. When 649 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: you don your green beret for the first time, you're 650 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: in a formation, and you're in a formation with many 651 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: of the people you started out with like two and 652 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: a half years ago, so you recognize a lot of 653 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: these folks and they say a few words. They raised 654 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: the American flag, and they do the ballot of the 655 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: Green Berets, and then they say, don you're don your 656 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: green beret. You have it in your right front pocket 657 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: and you put it on. And for a lot of 658 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: guys to get really emotional. They cry, you know, they get, 659 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, pretty, They were proud of themselves and what 660 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: they've been able to amplished, and a sense of overwhelming pride, 661 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: overwhelming pride. I'm not, by nature an emotional guy. I'm 662 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: just not, you know. Like somebody asked me once, you know, 663 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: I've you ever seen your dad cry? And I thought back, 664 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I have seen 665 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: my dad cry once, maybe once or twice. I remember 666 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: when my dog died. He cried. But then I thought, 667 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: what about my mom? And I thought to myself, you 668 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: know what, I've never seen my mother cry ever, you know, 669 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: And she died of lung cancer when I was young. 670 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: She was diagnosed with terminal cancer when she was thirty 671 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: nine years old. Which is a rough, rough card to 672 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: be dealt, you know. But I think I got a 673 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: lot of that from my mother, you know that. I 674 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: just don't get overly emotional with things like that. You know, 675 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: when I dined my Green Beret, my feeling was it's 676 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: about time, Like now we get to go to my team. 677 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: Now I get to go to combat. Now I get 678 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: to do some live a life of being a badass, 679 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like that kind of the idea. 680 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: That song, the song is powerful, you know that ballad 681 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: of the group rased out Stargean Barry Sadler. That's a 682 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: phenomenal song that makes you feel proud, you know, of 683 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: your accomplishments. But is anything in life. You know, you 684 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: take a moment, you're flat, you're you're you feel happy. 685 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: But then for me, it's always like, Okay, what's the 686 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: next set, what's the next rep, what's the next exercise? 687 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: What's the next goal ambition? You know, like this, what's 688 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: the next step for me? Yeah, because you're just like, Okay, 689 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: now I've done this. Now I got to go to 690 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: the next thing, and then the next thing and then 691 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: the next thing, which is whatever that may be. You're 692 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: just open to that challenge to just you know, get 693 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: at it. And that's why you're where you're at today. 694 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, we've known each other for years, and 695 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, you do so many things with the veteran community, 696 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: like helping out at fourteen pilots recover themselves from you know, hardships. 697 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: You've helped businesses by presenting them in front of like 698 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: a to fall of sharks, if you will, where you're like, Okay, hey, 699 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: this guy makes hands forged knives out of leaf springs 700 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: from you know, nineteen forty two Willie's jeep that was 701 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: in Omaha. I want that knife. And it's like, how 702 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: can we get him to step up and take ownership 703 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: of his company, you know, et cetera. And I've I've 704 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: been a part of that. Is that's still Mission six 705 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: or is that Warrior rising? Yeah? So great questions. So 706 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: Mission stick zero is my for profit leadership development company, 707 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: and we help corporate clients, professional sports clients become the 708 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: best leaders that they can be. And so that's primarily 709 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: what Delivered Discomfort is about. It's about being a better leader, 710 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: and that's our curriculum, what we teach. So hopefully we'll 711 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 1: have two NFL team clients this year. We're really excited 712 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: about many corporate clients. We have the Delivery Discomfort Challenge 713 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: We're gonna have or do we have right now, which 714 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: is a sixty day challenge I talked about briefly earlier. Now. 715 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: Warrior Rising is a nonprofit. It's a veteran service organization. 716 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: It's a five one C three. I started that after 717 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: Mission zero due to the success of Mission six zero, 718 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: and we help veterans and their immediate family members find 719 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: their purpose again post military service. And we help them 720 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: do that by starting or accelerating their own businesses. So 721 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: if you're a VET that has an idea for a 722 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: business on the back of a napkin, or if you've 723 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: had a business for thirty years and you just can't 724 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: seem to, you know, get to the next stage or 725 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: break that ceiling, or you're somewhere in between, you know, 726 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: come to Warrior Rising Warrior Rising dot org and we'll 727 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: help you out. And the process is very simple. You know, 728 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: you apply online. You know, there's an intake video that 729 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 1: you watch, you know, and it's interactive, so we ask 730 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: you some questions. You get access to our app, you know, 731 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: which is the Warrior Academy, and it's a forty video curriculum. 732 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: You go through that. While you're going through that, we 733 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: have bi monthly coaching sessions, so you can ask questions 734 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: of our coaches and you know, get personal feedback and 735 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: so forth, and we select. This year, we're gonna select 736 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: sixty of our top entrepreneurs and we're gonna invite them 737 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: to a business shower. And so a business shower is 738 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: an opportunity for veterans to perceive everything they possibly could 739 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: need for starting or accelerating a business. Free custom business suit, 740 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: free laptop, computer, free website, free search engine optimization, free marketing. 741 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: Video professionally done by Nick Thomas Shano, probably accounting capabilities 742 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: to help you, you know, manage that. The whole gambit 743 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: you guys provide, We've got it plus a grant. So 744 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: we have a pitch competition in the winner will receive 745 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: twenty dollars and everybody else will receive a grant on 746 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: on some level. And we're gonna do that in San 747 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: Antonio this year, in Salt Lake City this year, and 748 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: in New York this year, all over and so we're 749 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: gonna be in in a few places. So we're excited 750 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: about that. That's real. And let's just say the name again. 751 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: It's Warrior Rising dot org. Correct, correct, Warrior Rising dot org. 752 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: And then the other one. If you're a you know, 753 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: a business or you're a management team and you're trying 754 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: to get your team to be you know, reaching that 755 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: next level to break through, that's mission six zero. Is 756 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: that dot com or dot org dot com, mission dot 757 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: com zero dot com And you can spell that in 758 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: almost anyway. I think we have all the domain names. 759 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: It'll find it. Yeah, Mission six zero. You know, those 760 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: would be a great opportunity, especially if you're in the 761 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: veteran community and you're like, hey, I'm out now and 762 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: I need to acclimate to civilian life. But I have 763 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: this idea, and maybe the idea came from when you 764 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: were in the military and you always worked on you know, 765 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: say an aircraft carry and you're always doing fuel You're like, 766 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: if I had this little switch, this little switch that 767 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: could go on, this little thing that would just plug in, 768 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: it would just fix this whole situation where you can, 769 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, create that, try to get that on the 770 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: market and maybe get a government contract to pick it 771 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: up to fix that problem. You know, there's a lot 772 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: of ways that you can get to be an entrepreneur 773 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: of entrepreneur in this life. You know, I'm one, Jason's one. 774 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. You know, it's like, 775 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: put your head down and grind right, Yes, sir, it's 776 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: true because I still don't think I've made it. I 777 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: got a couple of retail stores, I've got some business, 778 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: but I'm still like there's more out there. I just 779 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: gotta keep trucking, bro. It's just never gonna give it up, 780 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: not ever. I love it. That's why you're special, brother, 781 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: That's why you're special being a part of, you know, 782 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: the culture that you've read for these entrepreneurs. Um. I 783 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: just want to say that it has also been a 784 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,959 Speaker 1: positive influence on my life, Jason, you and my life 785 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: has been positive. So, you know, deliberate to discomfort. The 786 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: book is something that we should all probably take a 787 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: piece out of right, whether it's like, hey, you have 788 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: to read every day, you have to work out maybe 789 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 1: twice a day, you need to watch what you eat. 790 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: Now you have like dietitians or meal personnel that help 791 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: everybody's through the process of deliberate discomfort. If someone commits, 792 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: you're there to commit with them with deliberate discomfort. It's incredible. Listen, 793 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: it works, and the testimonials are through the roof, and 794 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: it's hard, right men and women. You know, it doesn't 795 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: matter if you're eighty years old. We've had so many 796 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: year old people go through it, and it doesn't matter 797 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: if you're an amputee. We've got a triple in between. 798 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: Tommy Parker go through it twice. You know, like you said, 799 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,720 Speaker 1: there's six domains and it's about finding that balance, becoming 800 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: a total warrior, you know, becoming the best version of yourself. Mentally, 801 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: read a book from start to finish once a week. Physically, 802 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 1: we give you two workouts. You don't create your own workout. 803 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: We give you the workouts. You can't modify them, you know, 804 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't substitute them, but you can modify 805 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: them depending on kind of where you're at you know, 806 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: gym based workout every day and a cardio based workout 807 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: every day. We give you a nutrition plan. If you 808 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: want a personal nutritionist, then we have that person on 809 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: call and they'll develop a plan for you. That's a 810 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: little bit of an upsell. If you want meals delivered 811 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: to your door, we can do that too. That's an 812 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: upsell as well. Okay, meals delivered, Yeah, that helps. That helps, 813 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: and in this day and age, that's nice. I'm telling you, like, 814 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: I've tried every diet there is, and the secret is this. 815 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: You burn more calories than you take in and you 816 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: have to put the right stuff in your body. You know, 817 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,919 Speaker 1: you can't just say oh, I'm gonna eat a little 818 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 1: bit of this, a little to that. Everybody's body is different. 819 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: Everybody's body responds to different things. You know. For me, 820 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,760 Speaker 1: if I drink milk or have bread, like my body 821 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: just stores it right in my spirit. Time and media, 822 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, so I have to stay away from that stuff. 823 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: That's not for everybody, that's just for me, you know. Socially, 824 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: you have to reach out to a family member, a friend, 825 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: a past friend, somebody you've had a falling out with 826 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 1: and reconnect with them and have a meaningful conversation. Emotionally, 827 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: have a gratitude journal. Spiritually, we have a mindfulness breathing 828 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 1: exercise that you do every single day and it like 829 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: increases every day in time, so you get better as 830 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: you go through it and it's absolutely life changing. And 831 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: then professionally we have a master class sixty six videos. 832 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: You watch the video every day that's about the people, 833 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: then Deliverer discoufort Emissions, zero veterans and scientists talking about 834 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: a specific theme. And then you post something on social 835 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: media that inspired you from the challenge that day, and 836 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: that's the challenge. You do that for sixty straight days, 837 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: no excuses, no mercy, and I think you'll find your happy. 838 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: That's awesome, Yeah, and proud of you for keeping uh 839 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: people positive. That's a really good thing out there, you know, 840 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: especially in today's day and age, we just need a 841 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: lot more positivity from the neighbors and saying hi to 842 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: a stranger and just being you know, hey, how you doing? 843 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: Are you good? Are you good? Just check how you doing? 844 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: You know? That's really nice. And to have a focused 845 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: sixty day course where you can just you know, have 846 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: the likes of yourself or you know any of the 847 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: other caduat that you bring on. You know, I've watched 848 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 1: some of the daily podcasts that you guys have done 849 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: where you're you're all talking and saying, Okay, where are 850 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: you at right now on your deliberate Discomfort challenge? So 851 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: I just can't say enough nice things. And I just 852 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: want the listeners off SOFTWAREP Radio to know about Deliberate Discomfort, 853 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, led by Jason Van Camp, former Green Beret. 854 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: That's what's up. Thanks, appreciate you, buddy. Yeah, you're welcome. 855 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: And so with that said, I'm gonna go ahead and 856 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 1: wind down our conversation and if there's anything you want 857 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: to mention, I'll give you this moment to go ahead 858 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: and say anything you'd like to say about any books upcoming. 859 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: I think you should be in movies like Thor's four. 860 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 1: You should be four. No, I'm definitely not for although 861 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: Chris sam Worth is a hero of mine, I could 862 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: look like that guy. I'll take Chris Evans to man. 863 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: I guys, just man, I love the Captain American movies. 864 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: You know, he's fantastic. I am a big marvel nerd. 865 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: I'll admit it. I've been a Marvel not since I 866 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: was two years old and I picked up my first 867 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 1: comic book at seven eleven, you know, so I've always 868 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: been a big fan of that. But you know, as 869 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: far as closing off, if it is interested in becoming 870 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: a better person, better leader, check out deliver Discover you 871 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: get it on Amazon and leave a review if you 872 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: like it. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Yeah, Mission 873 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: six zero. If you're interested in joining us for the 874 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: Deliverers Comfort Challenge, we have a new challenge that begins 875 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,240 Speaker 1: every week starting on March fourteen. So we have robust 876 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 1: class sizes for each class and it's fantastic. You know, 877 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: there's also a buy one, get one free, so if 878 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: you buy the challenge, you can get somebody a friend, 879 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 1: a family member, girlfriend, boyfriend, whatever to join with you. 880 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: And then we are rising if you're so inclined to 881 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 1: have a sole enriching experience to really help a veteran out, 882 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of nonprofits out there, but for 883 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: a lot of them, you don't know if you're actually 884 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: helping the veteran warrior Rising, you get to see where 885 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: your time, talent, or treasure is going. You know, these 886 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 1: are the veterans that we're helping. Yeah, you can select 887 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: a veterans, say I want to follow this person, that's cool, 888 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: to join us for a fundraising event, or don't it 889 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: your time, you know, anything like that would be helpful. 890 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: So EF anybody's listening. Mission six zero dot com, Warrior 891 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: Rising dot org. And thanks so much Rad for having 892 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: me on. I appreciate it, humbled that you offered, uh 893 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: me an opportunity to come on, So thank you again. 894 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: You're welcome and we'll have you on again. Okay, So 895 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: we'll just make you just a regular kind of guy 896 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: every now and then. That's on the on the show. 897 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: And I really appreciate you, Jason, and we'll get more 898 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: updates from you in the future and we will say peace. 899 00:44:48,239 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: He see, buddy, you've been listening to self red Radio.