Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about
Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl drama, Girl, all about them
Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a rod in
Speaker 1: our comic girl sharing for the drama Queen's Go Up
Speaker 1: Girl Fashion, But you'll tough, girl. You can sit with
Speaker 1: us Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama, Drama,
Speaker 1: Queen's Drama, Queen's Cool. Hello, Hello, Hello, you were back.
Speaker 1: You might as well be strangers. Girls, You're not strange.
Speaker 1: J K. That's the name of the episode. This aired
Speaker 1: October and four after dare Knight, resulted in new arrangements,
Speaker 1: new arrangements, I don't know what, new couplings, new couplings.
Speaker 1: Here we go. A midnight meteor shower finds Lucas sharing
Speaker 1: a romantic night with Anna, who is inexplicably afraid of
Speaker 1: her brother's approval of disaval. Good One and Andy surprises
Speaker 1: Karen with a dinner date, and Keith cooks for jewels
Speaker 1: on their first date. Brook finds herself for me a
Speaker 1: mutually beneficial relationship with Felix, and Peyton sets out to
Speaker 1: find an opening act for our club, and we name Trick.
Speaker 1: This was directed by Sandford Bookstaver, who we all raved about.
Speaker 1: We never got him back ever, Why didn't he ever?
Speaker 1: Comes like he was great because he was on fire,
Speaker 1: Like we were so lucky to have him. And I
Speaker 1: think you all mentioned in this episode his camera shots
Speaker 1: are beautiful. He looked that techno crane so beautifully, those
Speaker 1: big widening shots that we get tall and leave people
Speaker 1: in these little zones. I mean, he he was so
Speaker 1: talented and so young, and yeah, you're right, his career
Speaker 1: just took off. That's a good point, Sophia. This episode
Speaker 1: was full of it felt like a bird's eye view.
Speaker 1: It was lots of little in yet and he did
Speaker 1: use that crane shot a lot, which gave me the
Speaker 1: feeling that I was constantly seeing things from a just
Speaker 1: from a bigger perspective, especially that last shot where it's
Speaker 1: like we're in all the drama, We're in the scenes,
Speaker 1: were in all the emotions, but it's that last shot
Speaker 1: of the episode was a reminder that it's just small
Speaker 1: town America at the end of the day, you know,
Speaker 1: just a mom and her son sitting on the porch
Speaker 1: going through the mail the long lens and he did something, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did those beautiful long lens shots, you know, of
Speaker 1: all of us in the classroom, where you'd see through
Speaker 1: people in the foreground characters. And then I got the
Speaker 1: sense to he wove a metaphor. So well, we had
Speaker 1: a lot of metaphors on our show, right, but this episode,
Speaker 1: this is the big meteor shower. Also the only time
Speaker 1: we ever saw that fabulous science teacher. Why we didn't
Speaker 1: have him back all the time, but you know, he
Speaker 1: was explaining a meteor shower. Also, he made a comet reference,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure the hardcore fans noticed. Um and and
Speaker 1: all of Sandy shots would start on two people and
Speaker 1: then widen out or someone you know, hathen Hathen Hathan
Speaker 1: started on my brain, just scrambled nearly in a knock
Speaker 1: cute way, so Nathan a Harry on their porch, and
Speaker 1: then it would pull back Brooke coming out and sitting alone,
Speaker 1: and you saw this little girl in front of this
Speaker 1: big house, and then you panned over to Felix alone,
Speaker 1: you know, Karen and Lucas on the porch. All of
Speaker 1: these shots that would pull out and in a way
Speaker 1: you you pulled away from them, just like in the
Speaker 1: science class. We started on these stars and then pulled
Speaker 1: back and realized how far apart they were. It was
Speaker 1: really metaphorical filmmaking, and I thought it was gorgeous. That
Speaker 1: just blew my mind. We see how far apart they are.
Speaker 1: He he elevated it. And you know, as as much
Speaker 1: as I felt like the the on the paper material
Speaker 1: of this episode was kind of boring, like there, I
Speaker 1: don't know that, we did a lot of moving forward.
Speaker 1: Joy did say that in the episode, She's like, this
Speaker 1: one's boring. I'm sorry, you can always count on me
Speaker 1: to spive my mind. I just I thought it was
Speaker 1: kind of boring. But what he did, but what he
Speaker 1: did as a director in taking this material and taking
Speaker 1: this sort of I don't know, catching the audience up
Speaker 1: on stuff and just slowly moving different storylines forward. This
Speaker 1: was kind of an interim episode of just filler space filler,
Speaker 1: But um, he did a lot of really cool stuff
Speaker 1: with it and made it feel bigger and better than
Speaker 1: probably what he was given on the page. So that
Speaker 1: was I mean, that's that's a director's job, right, like
Speaker 1: to make it even bigger and better. So well done.
Speaker 1: It's so funny that you say that, because I I
Speaker 1: was just saying um. I was talking to my friend
Speaker 1: Jenny and she was like, God, season two. I was
Speaker 1: telling her whatever that we were on. She was like,
Speaker 1: it was such a good season. And we were laughing,
Speaker 1: and I was saying that one of the things I
Speaker 1: miss a TV now, I miss when we could just
Speaker 1: go slow in episodes. Not every yeah, not every scene
Speaker 1: had to be some major event. You could really let
Speaker 1: people smooth through things and discover things, and so it's funny.
Speaker 1: You're like, God, it's boring, and I'm like, thank god,
Speaker 1: someone is slowing down. No. I like when things slow down.
Speaker 1: It's just that I don't think that I don't in
Speaker 1: this particular episode, I don't think the writing was good
Speaker 1: enough to be slow and and really draw you in. Like,
Speaker 1: in order to slow down, there has to be subtlety.
Speaker 1: There has to be um oh nuance. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: My favorite part of the rewatch is you too doing
Speaker 1: the predictive dialogue, like anticipating Lucas is going to say
Speaker 1: my favorite No, You're both like wait, wait, wait, there
Speaker 1: it is, and there're gonna say this. I love it.
Speaker 1: It's like we do, guys, when we watch this show.
Speaker 1: It's like mad libs we're just I will say I
Speaker 1: was very proud of myself. I nailed a Nathan line
Speaker 1: today too. I knew it was coming. It was sweet.
Speaker 1: He said, my future is with Haley. That of course
Speaker 1: he did, Sweet Little Bunny, delicious. So let's rewind to
Speaker 1: the beginning beginning where we see hot Dan and hot Deb.
Speaker 1: This is like empty nester syndrome, perhaps at like a
Speaker 1: very young age, Like imagine empty nester syndrome in your thirties.
Speaker 1: That would be crazy. Yeah, I mean, I guess I
Speaker 1: have friends that had kids either like senior year in
Speaker 1: high school or right out of high school, and they're
Speaker 1: in it and they are always like on boats and
Speaker 1: like doing fun show. And we're still in our thirties
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, you know, they figured this out
Speaker 1: and I'm still changing pull ups. Um, it's gonna I'll
Speaker 1: be in men of pause by the time I hit
Speaker 1: empty nest. And I'm okay with it. But I can
Speaker 1: see we're hot Dan and hot Deb really make the
Speaker 1: hard self for just like getting it out of the
Speaker 1: way early. They sure, dude, I mean Dan on that treadmill.
Speaker 1: I let Paul any excuse for Paul to get hit
Speaker 1: the gym, he always takes it, so I love that
Speaker 1: he was like, Dan's getting better. Here I go, you
Speaker 1: got a hair cut at a haircut, tan muscles at
Speaker 1: all and Barbara looked like just so young and fresh
Speaker 1: and cute, and I loved. I loved watching them in
Speaker 1: this episode. Are either of you guys rooting for Dan
Speaker 1: and deb at this point? Now? Sort of it's really
Speaker 1: hard because it's like, what will change a person if
Speaker 1: not in your death experience? And you can see him trying.
Speaker 1: He wants to do something romantic for her. He's saying,
Speaker 1: you know, he's got the second chance he didn't ever
Speaker 1: think he was going to get. But every time he
Speaker 1: does something sweet, whether it's with her or with Nathan,
Speaker 1: right when you're like, oh, wow, is he changing, then
Speaker 1: he says something gross and you're like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: and it can't help him. See's hard, yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: he's so goodly rooting for him, I'm no, so like
Speaker 1: I like watching them together, and I think their chemistry
Speaker 1: is so strong, even when it's combative and so as
Speaker 1: like a voyeuristic viewer who is not invested in anyone's
Speaker 1: emotional well being, I'm like yeah, and like, go to
Speaker 1: the beach house. Guess that sounds great, But like, as
Speaker 1: a woman who cares about feelings and toxic relationships, I'm like, deep, babe,
Speaker 1: you have been a martyr called Keith. See what Keith
Speaker 1: is doing. It's a date a date. Keep is on
Speaker 1: a date with hot Jewels. Also, can we just talk
Speaker 1: about one of my favorite hilarious devices of television is
Speaker 1: because you know, you can't give out a phone number,
Speaker 1: people will call it and ruins. You can't give out
Speaker 1: an address because people will go there and terrify whoever
Speaker 1: really lives somewhere. So when Keith, you know, in the
Speaker 1: last episode, looks at Jewels phone number, it's a five
Speaker 1: five five, because that's always what you have to do
Speaker 1: on TV. And then in this episode he calls her.
Speaker 1: They have a very cute scene. So she says, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, he waited a week to call me, and
Speaker 1: then he came up with this lame survey thing. It
Speaker 1: was like so flirty and cute. And then he asks
Speaker 1: her on a date and goes, how about a cookie
Speaker 1: dinner tomorrow? She goes, great, and then he just slams
Speaker 1: that little flip phone show girl, Mac, So, so you
Speaker 1: didn't set a time, and you don't know where the
Speaker 1: woman lives. What are you gonna do? Find her? Like
Speaker 1: a homing pigeon? White pages? Remember when we had white pages,
Speaker 1: like an actual book in a drawer where we would
Speaker 1: look people. Um, maybe she put it on in the
Speaker 1: paperwork when she first came in to test drive the car.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they're gonna text in T nine
Speaker 1: on those little footballs, hey friends. When we texted back then,
Speaker 1: you would literally have to hit like each button three
Speaker 1: times to get it to the right letter you wanted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: select the letter. It took full keyboard. Last. People are
Speaker 1: never going to have the patience. Well, we also had
Speaker 1: Tyler Hilton in this episode, the introduction of our fabulous
Speaker 1: love Tyler, who I'm so glad stood the test of
Speaker 1: time with our show and just stuck around forever and
Speaker 1: never because he brings so much life and fun and
Speaker 1: he's so smart and so free on camera and improvisational
Speaker 1: and it's just like energy. As soon as he's on screen,
Speaker 1: you just feel the energy. And so that was super fun.
Speaker 1: I love seeing him when that production is great too.
Speaker 1: Because Gravity Records in downtown Wilmington's was a hangout for
Speaker 1: all of us. I literally, Gus wanted our record player,
Speaker 1: and so he's got the record player up here, and
Speaker 1: I pulled out a Creative records and they're all like
Speaker 1: records that I bought in Gravity Records. There's like the
Speaker 1: Outcast album. There's some there's some like really depressing Emo
Speaker 1: in there, you know, like tat Power is in there,
Speaker 1: um forever Jenny Lewis, that was such a great hangout,
Speaker 1: and so it felt cool to be able to come
Speaker 1: in there and shoot. And Tyler was a child when
Speaker 1: we met him. He was a baby. He was He
Speaker 1: was only a little bit older than James, right, wasn't
Speaker 1: he Like No, I think he was younger. I think
Speaker 1: he might have been even younger. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's just graduated high school or something. He was a kid, really, Tyler.
Speaker 1: Tyler came in with major kid brother energy, which so fun,
Speaker 1: and he was so spunky and he really committed. And
Speaker 1: we were saying when we were watching the episode, how
Speaker 1: much fun it was to watch the two of you
Speaker 1: spar and how funny it is you know that they
Speaker 1: put Peyton an Emo shirt. Tyler, by the way, star
Speaker 1: predictive energy, you know, who knew what we didn't even
Speaker 1: know about ourselves and our eventual advocacy then was just
Speaker 1: casually standing there in a vote or die teacher, and
Speaker 1: I was like, hell, yes, yeah, it may be so happy.
Speaker 1: Chris Keller did something really right in that first episode,
Speaker 1: and it was encouraging civic engagement. It always helps when
Speaker 1: that kid brother energy comes in. And it's also very
Speaker 1: pretty because he had just come off a plane Elvis
Speaker 1: and walk the line, and so we were just like,
Speaker 1: you're fun to look at, You're fun to talk to,
Speaker 1: Like this is the total package. Um, and now he's
Speaker 1: like a dream dad. He's like a girl dad. So
Speaker 1: he brings that same like fun cute boy energy to
Speaker 1: parenting and what a delight. We'll get Tyler on super soon. Um,
Speaker 1: yes we will. We got some good guests in season two.
Speaker 1: We did. We totally did. Um. And let's talk about
Speaker 1: Danielle a little bit more too, because why why was
Speaker 1: she so concerned with Felix? Like every conversation she had
Speaker 1: is obsessing over her brother, and it's her whole arc. Yeah,
Speaker 1: her whole arc is I I don't want my brother
Speaker 1: to find out I like a boy. But weirdly, Lucas
Speaker 1: goes along with it, and I just can't figure out
Speaker 1: why the writers wrote this stuff for him, because it's
Speaker 1: not like Lucas and Felix were friends. That's what I'm saying. Day,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense. Guys. I have the three brothers,
Speaker 1: the three brothers, I have never consulted any of them
Speaker 1: on who to kiss ever in the whole life. And
Speaker 1: we were also very close in age, so you know gross.
Speaker 1: The thing that was so weird to me is it
Speaker 1: felt like I mean, you guys, we were laughing watching
Speaker 1: these scenes, going like, well, what's up is Felix? Like
Speaker 1: are we in the sixteen fifties? Is Felix responsible for
Speaker 1: this woman's dowry? Like goats? Like what is this weird?
Speaker 1: I can't be around you if your brother doesn't know,
Speaker 1: I'm caughting. Likes also like, you know what fair enough
Speaker 1: if you want to explore some sort of cultural, uh tradition,
Speaker 1: let's explore it. But what are we just like it's
Speaker 1: just so arbitrary and he's such a douche anyway, Felix
Speaker 1: that why is she? You know? I just I can't
Speaker 1: I don't understand it, know, the only person like doing
Speaker 1: like proper dating our Karen and sweet Andy and Keith
Speaker 1: and our fabulous guest today, ladies, shall we bring her in?
Speaker 1: Let's bring her in? Just there? You a okay, right,
Speaker 1: let's do it. I mean to give you you need
Speaker 1: a proper intro. Guys, Our our guest right now is
Speaker 1: an American entertainment reporter, television personality, professional, wrestler, actress, author, businesswoman.
Speaker 1: She's a journalist. That's that's conducted the only interview with
Speaker 1: the entire Obama family. She's interviewed every sitting president since
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton one on one. She's she is an allegend
Speaker 1: in her own right and has been through so many
Speaker 1: amazing things in life and has held a torch for
Speaker 1: so many leading so many people in incredible avenues of
Speaker 1: philanthropy and um just learning and growth personal growth. She's
Speaker 1: got her own podcast right now. So we are so
Speaker 1: so so happy to introduce Maria Manudos high ladys. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's so nice to hear your voice not
Speaker 1: just on TV, but like directed at us. It feels
Speaker 1: so good. I am so excited to view with you today.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to catch up. I mean, my god,
Speaker 1: it's been so long and um yeah, it's been way long. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you haven't aged a day. Yeah, you've gotten younger,
Speaker 1: which seems like you neither have any of you. I'm
Speaker 1: like just dealing with COVID right now, by the way,
Speaker 1: So this is my COVID tried killing together for you guys, Babe.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling? Are you okay? You? I'm actually good,
Speaker 1: thank god. The first day was pretty um and I
Speaker 1: had a fever, but then after that it was it
Speaker 1: was pretty good. I mean, it wasn't that bad. Well,
Speaker 1: you worked like twenty jobs, so I hope it's an
Speaker 1: opportunity for you to just like chill out for a minute.
Speaker 1: I think you've found that. Um. Did you guys both
Speaker 1: meet Marian for the first time on One Tree Hill?
Speaker 1: Was that y'all's first meeting because we met at MTV.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, but we met.
Speaker 1: I remember meeting you in the hallway and being like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, she's so pretty. It's like that green
Speaker 1: room hallway right outside the control room. Were you Did
Speaker 1: you work in MTV? Did you host? Um? I was
Speaker 1: doing a show at that time called e T on MTV, right,
Speaker 1: that's what, But we weren't filming it there, so I
Speaker 1: might have just been there, like making an appearance or
Speaker 1: something on some show. Yeah, gosh, and that's when I remember, gosh, Marian,
Speaker 1: I weirdly did you and I need like I knew
Speaker 1: you because of your dad. Yeah. By the way, guys,
Speaker 1: I have absolutely no memory being my husband. And my
Speaker 1: first assistant was with me for years there my USB drive,
Speaker 1: so I usually have to ask them for everything did
Speaker 1: I give me? And I don't remember anything in life,
Speaker 1: but I do remember your dad took my first head
Speaker 1: shots here in l A, being in a place called
Speaker 1: Channel one and Charles Bush I'll never forget. And um,
Speaker 1: and I knew you because of your dad, and then
Speaker 1: you met somehow before the show. I don't remember how.
Speaker 1: I think it was an ET thing because I remember
Speaker 1: how crazy it was, you know, my Yeah, my dad
Speaker 1: was a photographer. I had to like work for him
Speaker 1: during the summer, and I was a petulant teenager who
Speaker 1: didn't pay attention to anything because I was like mad,
Speaker 1: I wasn't at the Glendale Galleria with all my friends
Speaker 1: and and then suddenly we're all doing this TV show
Speaker 1: and I have no idea what's going on. And it
Speaker 1: was one of those I don't know what. It was,
Speaker 1: some press thing we did, like at the end of
Speaker 1: season one, and I remember seeing you and being like,
Speaker 1: I wonder if she remembers me, because I know her
Speaker 1: and this feels safe. Everything is overwhelming here, and you
Speaker 1: were just like, oh my god, your show. It was
Speaker 1: so so sweet and lovely, Maria. How did you get started?
Speaker 1: How did I get started? Um? Well, you, as you
Speaker 1: all know, it's like a series of baby steps, right,
Speaker 1: It's like little thing after a little thing. It's saying
Speaker 1: yes to the things and then you get there. But um,
Speaker 1: kind of like the big moment that led to the
Speaker 1: big moment was, um, my now husband was um working
Speaker 1: at MTV at the time, came back to Boston to
Speaker 1: make a movie. I was so unconnected, guys, my parents
Speaker 1: were janitors, Like this was not that kind of story.
Speaker 1: But my cousin went to high school with him randomly
Speaker 1: and he said, Hey, that buddy I've been telling you
Speaker 1: about he was coming back to make a movie. You
Speaker 1: should work on it. And he had been telling you
Speaker 1: since I was thirteen that he had this buddy at
Speaker 1: it in l A and not like whatever, and he's like,
Speaker 1: it's coming back to make a movie. And I was
Speaker 1: working um at Lord and Taylor in Copley Square doing
Speaker 1: makeovers for chel Huh. I did make up and I
Speaker 1: basically quit my job started working on the movie. And
Speaker 1: then a producer named Mark Finney who was working on
Speaker 1: our movie, went back to l A after re wrapped
Speaker 1: and was peeing at a place called Channel one News.
Speaker 1: So he called one day because they were looking for
Speaker 1: new TV anchors and he knew I was studying journalism
Speaker 1: at Emerson, so he said, you should put in a tape.
Speaker 1: So Kevin and I got the only two videos I
Speaker 1: had of myself because I was like not that person
Speaker 1: that was like so psycho focused on like I gotta
Speaker 1: put my real together, I getta do all this. I
Speaker 1: was just kind of like going with the flow, and
Speaker 1: we put a real together. I ended up getting a
Speaker 1: job moving to l A. And then from there I
Speaker 1: went to entertainment tonight across the street, and so um
Speaker 1: that was it. From there it was like history. And
Speaker 1: then I was with you guys, Yeah, how did you
Speaker 1: end up on one Stree Hill? What? What did you?
Speaker 1: Was in a random audition or did you know somebody?
Speaker 1: Like how did it come out? So? Um, I remember
Speaker 1: my attorney, Kevin Yourn repped Mark Schwan at the time,
Speaker 1: and I had told my attorney that I wanted to
Speaker 1: do some acting, and so he spoke with him, and
Speaker 1: then there was some audition and I broke my toe
Speaker 1: just for the audition, you know. And then Mark at
Speaker 1: the time was like, that's so Jewels, and so he
Speaker 1: was like, this is so Joel's side. Did the part,
Speaker 1: but it was only supposed to be like an episode
Speaker 1: or two, I think, and then it just kept growing
Speaker 1: from there because your good collection is thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: I did watch back and I wasn't embarrassed. No, you're
Speaker 1: so cute. You're like the perfect guys girl totally. And
Speaker 1: Enjoyce said it, there's that scene in this episode because
Speaker 1: you know, we meet you in the last one, and
Speaker 1: then in this one we were talking about how cute
Speaker 1: you were kind of riving Craig about how he calls
Speaker 1: you with this total BS like survey excuse. But Joyce
Speaker 1: said it, when you're sitting in that cue purple T
Speaker 1: shirt on the phone, you're throwing out such strong, charming
Speaker 1: like Alicia Silverstone vibes. It's so it's like such an
Speaker 1: iconic energy of an of an era and you tapped
Speaker 1: into it so beautifully, and I feel like that's why
Speaker 1: week after week everyone was like, how do we keep
Speaker 1: her here? What do we do? You know, how do
Speaker 1: we have more Jewels? No way? I don't know what
Speaker 1: happened behind the scenes. I don't know how it all
Speaker 1: happened or worked out, because I was in a storm
Speaker 1: working um crazy crazy and it was like forty out
Speaker 1: a fifty two weekends, seven days straight a week, and
Speaker 1: then I was flying to Wilmington's to do this. And
Speaker 1: every time I got to go to Wilmington's, I could
Speaker 1: take a breath and I could breathe, and I felt
Speaker 1: like I was in safe, good hands, Like I just
Speaker 1: felt so good that I remember when we wrapped, I
Speaker 1: was balling, like I don't want to go anywhere. I
Speaker 1: wish we could have kept you. Where do we think
Speaker 1: Jewels is today? What do we think Jewels is doing?
Speaker 1: I think she probably stayed with um Keith because I
Speaker 1: felt bad in the end, right, like I had a
Speaker 1: like deep dive and remember what was going on because
Speaker 1: I'm watching it, I'm like, didn't I pull a fast
Speaker 1: one here? And then I saw it. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: so obviously evil band put me up to all this,
Speaker 1: But now I really like him. So I would like
Speaker 1: to think, because a lot of people hate me for
Speaker 1: breaking Keith's heart, I hate me for breaking Keith's heart.
Speaker 1: I would like to think that we made it work somehow,
Speaker 1: that we like got back together again and lived happily
Speaker 1: ever after they had little Craigs. I don't want to
Speaker 1: ruin it for you. He's dead. Yeah, I know, it's
Speaker 1: so sad. It's so sad. Maybe she just got like
Speaker 1: a huge Keith tattoo and she's just like he die
Speaker 1: because I tribute like season five, season three, season three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was season three because I had a short haircut.
Speaker 1: That's how I know what. And it was it was
Speaker 1: the big school shooting episode. Oh I thought I had
Speaker 1: had time to get back together with him. I guess not. No, baby,
Speaker 1: it was like it was a strong one to punch.
Speaker 1: They were we're gonna break his heart and then break
Speaker 1: his body. Yeah. He's so good though. He's really so
Speaker 1: lovely and so um so helpful and kind with me.
Speaker 1: I really appreciated him. Have you acted growing up? Have
Speaker 1: you done theater and stuff? No? No, I used to
Speaker 1: clean nightclubs, praying someday that I would get to like perform,
Speaker 1: So we would go. I would go up on stage
Speaker 1: and like the B fifty two s would leave there
Speaker 1: like their gear, like there are drums and their guitars,
Speaker 1: and I would just go up there and pretend I
Speaker 1: was performing, and like my parents wouldn't pay attention to
Speaker 1: me because they were of course cleaning and we were
Speaker 1: trying to get the forge out of there. But um no,
Speaker 1: I never danced. I never did acting classes. I never
Speaker 1: did any of that. And then in college I started
Speaker 1: kind of dipping my toe and acting in some student
Speaker 1: films and things like that. Was it a hard transition
Speaker 1: going from being a reporter into acting? Was that? How
Speaker 1: was that for you? Did it feel like a strategy
Speaker 1: to feel like a new adventure. Well, it's funny because
Speaker 1: back then people weren't multi hyphen It's right, exactly. Everybody
Speaker 1: was a very particular box. Yeah, and they were really
Speaker 1: really against it, Like everybody was like, she can't act,
Speaker 1: she's a reporter. And I have to give my husband
Speaker 1: credit because he was the one who was like why not,
Speaker 1: why can't you do everything? He was there, He was
Speaker 1: there with you, wasn't he He did. He came down
Speaker 1: at some point. Um, I remember we had a ship
Speaker 1: one of my dogs to my parents. I will never
Speaker 1: forget they go money. Don't tell anybody that we baby
Speaker 1: sitting in the dog. They're gonna think we're crazy. But
Speaker 1: yeah we um. He pushed me and I just you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to do so many different things. I was
Speaker 1: so curious, and I always had the kind of mindset
Speaker 1: of like, we only live once, why would we just
Speaker 1: stick to one thing? Why wouldn't we explore and try things?
Speaker 1: And so I loved it. I had so much fun.
Speaker 1: In fact, throughout the years after, you know, because I
Speaker 1: did some other acting. I did, you know, Fantastic four,
Speaker 1: and I did um this other movie called Kicking at
Speaker 1: Old School with Jamie Kennedy and Trumpic Thunder and stuff.
Speaker 1: What I realized about myself is I was always happiest
Speaker 1: on a movie center, a TV set, not necessarily because
Speaker 1: I really wanted to be an actor per se, but
Speaker 1: because I really liked focusing on one thing. And it's
Speaker 1: funny how different things in your life will teach you
Speaker 1: things about yourself. Like I was so overstretched and doing
Speaker 1: so many things at some point that I was like well,
Speaker 1: when when am I happiest? And I'm like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: when I'm on a set because I'm so no good
Speaker 1: at it that I have to focus really hard, right,
Speaker 1: yes you are or not like or maybe I shouldn't
Speaker 1: be like negative. But the point is it wasn't my
Speaker 1: strong suit. My strong suit's hosting right, that was, like
Speaker 1: I think, Um, I had never been trained, so I
Speaker 1: had to really give it everything I had. And I
Speaker 1: loved that energy of being able to focus someone things.
Speaker 1: So there are so many times in my life as
Speaker 1: I continue to be a multi hyperniteddu way too many
Speaker 1: things where I'm like, how do I gravitate back to that?
Speaker 1: Just one thing? So okay, if you could pick, like
Speaker 1: your perfect movie or perfect TV show to do, what
Speaker 1: would you like? What's your dream gig? Currently? Um? You
Speaker 1: know it's it's such a tough landscape. I feel like
Speaker 1: the world has changed so much, not just because of
Speaker 1: the pandemic, but I'm sure, I mean, gosh, I have
Speaker 1: to have you ladies on my show at some point
Speaker 1: so we can talk about this because I don't want
Speaker 1: to take up your show. Make my baby give it,
Speaker 1: give it. The acting world has changed so much and
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear from you guys on it
Speaker 1: because it's so splinter The whole business is splintered, hosting, acting,
Speaker 1: everything is splintered. It's like you get you a little
Speaker 1: fief to them and stay with your fiefdom and then
Speaker 1: that's it. Um. I have to say I've been doing
Speaker 1: a little bit more acting randomly. I did a holiday
Speaker 1: movie I think Bethany I saw you in one recently, right, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I was. I saw you. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: she looks so beautiful and she's still exact same. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, So I like you and I loved it.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you did it with um Janna. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I saw Jane posting like beautiful pictures on a wharf
Speaker 1: for something with you, and I'm like, I know, we
Speaker 1: had such a good time and it's so funny because
Speaker 1: you know we're all just here right now. But um,
Speaker 1: but yeah. And then I have another um Netflix series
Speaker 1: coming out I think in April with a very famous
Speaker 1: comedian where I get to be something. So my scene
Speaker 1: now is just my podcast. I really am trying to
Speaker 1: build that kind of like health wellness, life improvement space
Speaker 1: for people to come where they don't have to fight
Speaker 1: about politics and they don't have to think about all
Speaker 1: the dreary, horrible things. It's like, how do we how
Speaker 1: do we roll with the punches, how do we live
Speaker 1: better lives? How do we live happier and healthier? And
Speaker 1: take everything that I've gone through in the last few
Speaker 1: years and teach people what I've learned. Being your own
Speaker 1: boss as a woman is the most empowering thing. And
Speaker 1: you know, we all kind of came up in the
Speaker 1: business at the same time where we were at the
Speaker 1: mercy of a lot of dudes, and so to see
Speaker 1: so many women take the reins is exciting. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: fact that you came up during a time when they're
Speaker 1: everything was so segregated, you couldn't sort of be outside
Speaker 1: of your box, and the fact that you did break
Speaker 1: the mold in so many ways is a huge testament
Speaker 1: to not only your gifts and abilities, but who you
Speaker 1: are as a person. That you just could see through
Speaker 1: the barriers, these sort of arbitrary barriers that have been
Speaker 1: put up and decided to just do your own thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so bad ass, Maria, and I
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's so inspiring too, because to
Speaker 1: the point of what we're talking about. You know, for
Speaker 1: folks listening at home, it might seem weird to think
Speaker 1: about now, but when our show launched, you know, Mario,
Speaker 1: when you were beginning your hosting career, you were really
Speaker 1: told that you could only do one thing. So if
Speaker 1: you were a TV host, you were a TV host.
Speaker 1: If you did television, you could not do movies. If
Speaker 1: you did movies, you wouldn't dare to go on a
Speaker 1: TV show, if you know journalists or journalists. Everything was
Speaker 1: so specific. Even the idea that singers might act was
Speaker 1: a shock to anyone. And now we we think it's
Speaker 1: so funny because if you're creative, you're creative. If you're
Speaker 1: a storyteller, whether you write music or articles, or film
Speaker 1: and TV, whatever, it's all of this is a creative medium.
Speaker 1: And so it's almost crazy now to consider that we
Speaker 1: all make film, television, movies, We work in journalism, political spaces.
Speaker 1: We you know, some people on this show make music,
Speaker 1: and you know, not just albums, but write musicals. I mean,
Speaker 1: like Joy, you do eighty seven things in music alone.
Speaker 1: And it's like, isn't it wild that there was an era,
Speaker 1: especially when we were all being sort of born as artists,
Speaker 1: where other people were telling us what we could and
Speaker 1: could not do. It's it is crazy now because with
Speaker 1: the advent of new tech, like anyone can do anything
Speaker 1: even from home. It's it's surreal. And you really did
Speaker 1: set examples for a lot of people, us included I
Speaker 1: want to dig into your personal life. Well you have
Speaker 1: been to watch this episode. I did, Yeah, I watched
Speaker 1: it last night. So right before we my husband, I
Speaker 1: was like so excited, like I'm not an americment Oh no,
Speaker 1: you right. So many years later you're like, oh, I
Speaker 1: definitely happen. There's no way I didn't suck. That was
Speaker 1: like the first time. So you're so cute. So we're
Speaker 1: lamenting Danielle Alonso's character caring so much about her brother's
Speaker 1: opinion about who she's dating. But you're telling us that,
Speaker 1: like your cousins set you up with your husband? Did they?
Speaker 1: Did he mean to set you up? Or was this
Speaker 1: supposed to be a business thing but the career set up?
Speaker 1: But when I met Kevin, I was like, Oh, he's
Speaker 1: the one. He doesn't know it yet, so I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna have to force him to fall in love with me.
Speaker 1: I love it good. I'm glad he didn't know. No,
Speaker 1: I was like a chubby nineteen year old guy coming
Speaker 1: in from I was forty ground seven or than I
Speaker 1: am now. Of course I was. It was so cute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean listen, I was tall, so I wore it
Speaker 1: pretty well. But I was just this kid and he
Speaker 1: was like this, you know, filmmaker guy from Hollywood or whatever,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, he had no idea that I was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's you. How long have you guys went together at
Speaker 1: this point twenty four years in April. It's amazing, especially
Speaker 1: in our industry, you know what I mean, Like you're
Speaker 1: I mean, you work so so much. I love how
Speaker 1: rounded you are with your family, um and with your
Speaker 1: relationships and the fact that you can just like pick
Speaker 1: up with people like the last time you saw them
Speaker 1: was yesterday and it's been what fifteen years. It's I
Speaker 1: also remember being so struck then and I and I
Speaker 1: still am so impressed by it and love to kind
Speaker 1: of witness it as a person who adores you, as
Speaker 1: we all do. I remember being young, and you know,
Speaker 1: having this sort of first experience and definitely realizing that
Speaker 1: there's a lot of men in the world who are
Speaker 1: very threatened by successful women. And you came on our
Speaker 1: show with this husband who you know is what is
Speaker 1: he like at least ten years older than you, and
Speaker 1: you're you're coming into act and you've got this hosting
Speaker 1: career and you're running from you know, a war zone
Speaker 1: here to the oscars there and going to MTV and
Speaker 1: going to eat and coming to work with us. And
Speaker 1: he was walking around with you, holding one of the
Speaker 1: dogs and just beaming watching you and the way he
Speaker 1: talked about you. And you'd like, go to shoot a scene,
Speaker 1: you know, we'd all be down on the river um
Speaker 1: and two of us wouldn't be on camera, so we'd
Speaker 1: be at video village and he was at video village
Speaker 1: and he's like, God, just look at her. She's good
Speaker 1: at everything. And he was so proud of you, and
Speaker 1: it it really it set such an example for me
Speaker 1: in in what I would not tolerate less of in
Speaker 1: my relationships moving forward as I became an adult, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, no, no, there are people who will
Speaker 1: love your success and be proud of if they're not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they're threatened, that's there and it's not your responsibility.
Speaker 1: And I just got I just think about him all
Speaker 1: the time, standing there with that cute little baseball app
Speaker 1: just watching you and like being so in love with
Speaker 1: you being the best version of yourself. It was very cool.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you guys are so so beautiful. Thank
Speaker 1: you for that, because you're gonna make me cry. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure he listens to this, because you
Speaker 1: know it is it is hard, I know for so
Speaker 1: many people to find somebody that is going to root
Speaker 1: for them, and he really has, I mean so rooted
Speaker 1: for me every second of every day for almost twenty
Speaker 1: four years, and you're reminding me of how much I
Speaker 1: should appreciate him even more. I wanted to ask what
Speaker 1: you remember about Wilmington's. You know you said you came in.
Speaker 1: I've had a big breath of fresh air every time
Speaker 1: you got there because your life was so such a blur.
Speaker 1: What do you remember what? What did you love about
Speaker 1: that town? What do you remember about your filming experience too?
Speaker 1: I loved every second of all of it. Um. I
Speaker 1: think getting to have fun, you know, for me, because
Speaker 1: I grew up cleaning nightclubs, I didn't get to go
Speaker 1: do all the things that kids got to do and
Speaker 1: have fun. So when I look back at my career,
Speaker 1: it was seems like One Tree Hill. Even Fantastic four,
Speaker 1: I had like two scenes. But we were there for months,
Speaker 1: so I got to have like almost like a college
Speaker 1: experience where we would just like go out and party
Speaker 1: every summer camp or Dancing with the Stars where I
Speaker 1: got to have my dance recitals. But as an adult,
Speaker 1: my parents come see my dancer cital, and so I
Speaker 1: look back at those moments where I'm like, wow, okay,
Speaker 1: I got my fun in kind of like a hyper
Speaker 1: insane way. Wilmington's was gorgeous. I remember loving it there.
Speaker 1: And there was that ice cream shop. Remember what's it called? Yes, uh,
Speaker 1: what was your flavor? What did you go get? I'm
Speaker 1: always like a cookie dough person, or was a cookie
Speaker 1: dough person then very much now, but I was die
Speaker 1: hard cookie dough. Yeah, that's awesome. Cookie dough on a waffre.
Speaker 1: Did you stay? Were you at the Riverview Sweets or
Speaker 1: were you Did you get an apartment while you were there?
Speaker 1: I was that's the Hilton right the river we were
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, it was so nice. It was just
Speaker 1: like I could breathe. I feel like it was so great.
Speaker 1: And you guys were all so loving and warm and fun.
Speaker 1: And I remember all your dogs, Sophia, a little rescue
Speaker 1: troop always. How many do you have now? Just one?
Speaker 1: Can you believe it? I know I'm gonna do so,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, look at us. At what point do
Speaker 1: you direct? Like, at what point, after conquering all of
Speaker 1: this stuff do you say, Okay, I'm in the boss chair,
Speaker 1: this is my time. That's funny. Um, I directed a
Speaker 1: little I did a short film, um years ago. I
Speaker 1: think that one went to so Fire tried Doka. I
Speaker 1: don't remember. We did a couple of different movies that
Speaker 1: Kevin directed, and then I directed a short. I really
Speaker 1: like directing a lot. It's funny you say that. I like,
Speaker 1: I have always looked at everything in life like a shot,
Speaker 1: which is so weird. I don't know why, but um,
Speaker 1: but then, of course now it's like a whole other life,
Speaker 1: right because now with iPhones everything is a shot. But
Speaker 1: preceding iPhones, everything was a shot in my head. And
Speaker 1: I love I love working with actors and I love
Speaker 1: all of that. So I don't know, it just seems
Speaker 1: like it seems like so much work now. I think
Speaker 1: I'm like retired into old but I am going to
Speaker 1: direct a documentary. Um, Joe Burlinger is going to mentor
Speaker 1: me through directing a documentary on my brain tumor journey
Speaker 1: and my mom's and kind of the parallels I'm seeing
Speaker 1: in women today and and basically pointing out some of
Speaker 1: that to everybody. So um, so I'm working on that
Speaker 1: right now. He's literally like the best. I'm so excited
Speaker 1: for you to move into that space. Thank you do
Speaker 1: you find because one of the things that I think
Speaker 1: is really interesting about you know, all of us in
Speaker 1: the way that, like you said, we pick up exactly
Speaker 1: where we left off, and we talk a lot on
Speaker 1: this show about how we're all at a point in
Speaker 1: our life. We're really nothing's off limits, you know, like,
Speaker 1: let's share the lessons, let's get let's get into the stuff,
Speaker 1: whether we agree or disagree or we're processing something. And
Speaker 1: you know, on your podcast on Better Together, you open
Speaker 1: up so much about all of this major life events stuff,
Speaker 1: and like you said, you do it in a way
Speaker 1: where it's about wellness and growth and and you're talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, what you went through with your brain tumor,
Speaker 1: what your mother went through with her cancer. This is
Speaker 1: big life stuff that a lot of people go through,
Speaker 1: but a lot of people don't often feel like they
Speaker 1: can talk about. Do you do you feel like all
Speaker 1: the years where you've been a storyteller, where you've built
Speaker 1: these connections with audiences and people, do you do you
Speaker 1: feel like you want to heal out loud so that
Speaker 1: other people can do that with you. That's an interesting
Speaker 1: way to put it, actually, to heal out loud. I
Speaker 1: think I was healing out loud when I started the
Speaker 1: show because it was partly I wanted to financers to
Speaker 1: help my mom through her cancer journey, and I knew
Speaker 1: I had access to people. I knew I had access
Speaker 1: to the best of the best, and I knew that
Speaker 1: I would be able to help others have that access.
Speaker 1: And then at the same time, UM be able to
Speaker 1: help my mom and myself really my mom, But you
Speaker 1: never know, there were always some nuggets for me there too.
Speaker 1: But I think, um, you know, I just love helping people.
Speaker 1: That's always been something that's been in my heart and
Speaker 1: what I loved and admired so much about watching an
Speaker 1: Oprah in life right, she loved helping with people, and
Speaker 1: that was something I loved about her. I love about
Speaker 1: Tony Robbins. I love about so many people, so I
Speaker 1: love helping people. And I think that's kind of why,
Speaker 1: because I know if I'm open and vulnerable, someone else
Speaker 1: will be able to be open and vulnerable, and someone
Speaker 1: else will share something that might help us all kind
Speaker 1: of unlock something. Right. That's why I always say we're
Speaker 1: better together. Yeah, So yeah, what what inspired you? Just so?
Speaker 1: When did you start the podcast? Was it initially you
Speaker 1: started specifically because of what your mom was going through
Speaker 1: or did you Is it something that was ruminating for
Speaker 1: a long time. I think I shifted it shifted the
Speaker 1: title to that I started doing the podcast. It was
Speaker 1: funny Kevin Um. One day I came home from e
Speaker 1: then he had blown out our garage and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing you psycho? He's like, this is
Speaker 1: your future and I go what? And he was building
Speaker 1: a podcast studio in the garage and he goes, this
Speaker 1: is your future. Ire me talking about this weirdo. This
Speaker 1: has literally been twenty four years and me calling a
Speaker 1: long yard and not understanding. But he has such a vision,
Speaker 1: so he built the studio. Soon after, I get a
Speaker 1: brain tumor, my mom got to brain tom I get
Speaker 1: a brain tumor and I had surgery, and so I
Speaker 1: had like no balance and you know, affected some nerves.
Speaker 1: So all I could do was use my walker and
Speaker 1: get into the studio and and do my show there.
Speaker 1: So it ended up being, you know, where I kind
Speaker 1: of started my podcasting, and and then at some point,
Speaker 1: like the show um shifted into such health and wellness
Speaker 1: out of necessity because of my mom. Yeah, so it
Speaker 1: was organic. It just kind of happened. It was what
Speaker 1: I was already interested in. I've always been interested in
Speaker 1: life improvement, self improvement and health and wellness, but then
Speaker 1: it became very very important and very tough of mind. So,
Speaker 1: and what are the things that keep you staying positive
Speaker 1: and motivated when you're going through tough times and you know,
Speaker 1: as you process the things that you're talking about on
Speaker 1: your show. Well, I was talking about this recently, Like
Speaker 1: I think life is like a roller coaster, right, I
Speaker 1: love roller coasters. Do you guys like roller coasters? I do?
Speaker 1: So why do we love roller coasters? Because we're gonna
Speaker 1: scare the s out of us and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to the other side, right, So it's like we
Speaker 1: know we're going to be okay. I'm locked in. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: no matter what, we're always going to be okay. So
Speaker 1: I love I love the analogy of a roller coaster
Speaker 1: because it's highs and lows. We're gonna have them. It's inevitable.
Speaker 1: Life isn't supposed to be fair, it's not going to
Speaker 1: be perfect. It's how we choose to go through it.
Speaker 1: And so I made a conscious decision. It took me
Speaker 1: a second. I had to gather myself because when you
Speaker 1: hear your mom as stage four brain cancer, it is
Speaker 1: the most paralyzing, worst moment of your life. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I said, okay, we're going to go through this with
Speaker 1: like faith and with um, with you know, as much
Speaker 1: laughter and comedy as possible. And the same thing. When
Speaker 1: I was diagnosed, I was like, okay, now it's pure comedy.
Speaker 1: I mean I was crashing jokes with the surgeon the
Speaker 1: second I walked in there, I go, hey, so you
Speaker 1: see this mother daughter tumor thing often And he was
Speaker 1: like God, and I'm like, okay, then serious here, Okay.
Speaker 1: To the point where I had I had promised him
Speaker 1: I would go to this charity event where they were
Speaker 1: honoring him. It was June seven, I get diagnosed like sometimes.
Speaker 1: I think it was like in April or something, and
Speaker 1: he's like, well, I can operate on the eighth of June.
Speaker 1: I said, well, that's my birthday. It's perfect. It's a rebirth.
Speaker 1: And he goes, well, obviously you're not going to make
Speaker 1: it on the seventh and I go, no, I'll be
Speaker 1: there and he's like what. And so I show up
Speaker 1: to this charity and then you guys, and it's at
Speaker 1: the Stave Bonds house. The Save Bonds are these like
Speaker 1: oper wealthy family whatever in Beverly Hills, and I see
Speaker 1: Dr Black and I'm like, hey, to drink minimum. You're
Speaker 1: in my brain tomorrow morning. I'm watching you. And so
Speaker 1: then they're showing brain surgeries that he's operated on on
Speaker 1: the screens and I'm looking around. I see like Ted
Speaker 1: Surranda's from Netflix there and all these people. I'm like,
Speaker 1: no one has a clue, but this man is going
Speaker 1: to be cutting my skull open and removing it to
Speaker 1: murder tomorrow. We this is insane, but yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I definitely am someone who honors my commitments. So I
Speaker 1: went and it's bananas, but you know, life is gonna
Speaker 1: have throw it's purballs. That's why I love Rocky so much.
Speaker 1: She says, It's not about how hard you hit, It's
Speaker 1: about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward,
Speaker 1: how much you can take and keep moving forward. And
Speaker 1: so I think we all have choices how we want
Speaker 1: to go through things. And I know that the decision
Speaker 1: to use comedy and to to make it as light
Speaker 1: as possible made our journey easier, and so I highly
Speaker 1: encourage it because having your pity party, we can all
Speaker 1: have our pitty party for a minute. I had one
Speaker 1: the other day on you know when I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: Christmas is ruined. Kevin and I both have COVID. This
Speaker 1: is great, Okay, go on our trip. But that took
Speaker 1: a minute, and then I was like, okay, this is
Speaker 1: probably happening for a reason, Well what is it? Then
Speaker 1: you did again, You're like, well, I need a rest,
Speaker 1: and I think God is just forcing arrest. And I
Speaker 1: think that's you know, there's always a reason behind things.
Speaker 1: It's so important. I think this is such a valuable
Speaker 1: outlook because it seems like a very it's a very
Speaker 1: common theme right now in our modern Western society. The
Speaker 1: entitlement to not suffer the entitlement to this idea that, um,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be inconvenienced, I shouldn't be suffering, I shouldn't
Speaker 1: be going through anything. I have a right to my
Speaker 1: perfect life. Um. And it shows up in so many ways,
Speaker 1: and um, it is so hard to I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know if it's just this
Speaker 1: new generation or just what's happening with culturally in our
Speaker 1: in our society right now. But I think it's what
Speaker 1: you're talking about as a message that's really important for
Speaker 1: people to listen to and to reevaluate where we are
Speaker 1: in life. Yeah, you know, it's so interesting that you
Speaker 1: freeze it that way. Joy part of what I've really
Speaker 1: been wondering a lot about, which I know is a
Speaker 1: bit ironic considering we're all connecting via devices from four
Speaker 1: different places around the country. But I think there's like
Speaker 1: a dissonance happening because so many people are on devices
Speaker 1: so much of the day, and what people share out
Speaker 1: in the digital world is their highlight reel so sub
Speaker 1: anxiously or even consciously. Now we all think everyone's out
Speaker 1: there having this Instagram perfect life, and suddenly we go, well,
Speaker 1: why am I the only person having a hard day,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, everyone's having a hard day, they're
Speaker 1: just not posting about it. And I really wonder how
Speaker 1: well that's by the way, it feeds the mentality that
Speaker 1: I'm talking about that entitlements like I should something wrong
Speaker 1: with me. Yes, yeah, that's what I mean. And that's why,
Speaker 1: to bring it full circle, I think a show like yours,
Speaker 1: Maria is so important because when you let people get
Speaker 1: real about what's going on, when you let people in.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's why I started my podcast, That's why,
Speaker 1: it's why I launched Work in Progress to have like long,
Speaker 1: deep talks but are honest and funny and hard. It's
Speaker 1: why when we launched this show, we were like, well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about let's talk about let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the weird misogyny. Let's talk about what
Speaker 1: was really stup culturally back then. Let's talk about what
Speaker 1: we've all learned. Let's talk about what was hilarious. Like
Speaker 1: when you when you can be your whole self in
Speaker 1: a space, I think you do give other people permission
Speaker 1: to do the same. And it is like kind of
Speaker 1: an out of body experience that I know I'm having
Speaker 1: as the four of us talk about this right now
Speaker 1: because I realized I don't think I could have consciously
Speaker 1: articulated this at three. But you showed up for us
Speaker 1: when we were twenty three, and you were an example
Speaker 1: of this living out loud then, and we didn't have,
Speaker 1: you know, women really too to set examples for us,
Speaker 1: who were producers and hosts, all the people in power
Speaker 1: on our show. We're men, and you showed up and
Speaker 1: you were like, oh, I'm in power. I have five companies.
Speaker 1: And we were like, that's that's allowed. Oh we should
Speaker 1: all we should try to be like Maria. I'm like, God,
Speaker 1: I let that on a T shirt. I want to
Speaker 1: be like Maria on a T shirt. Be like Maria.
Speaker 1: You had that energy where all the boys wanted to
Speaker 1: flirt with you, but you demanded respect and used humor
Speaker 1: in a way that they never from from an outside observer.
Speaker 1: They didn't trivialize you the way some other girls got trivialized,
Speaker 1: like you were well respected on our set. Are like
Speaker 1: grips and electrics were like that, Maria, she's a dame,
Speaker 1: you know. Like it's so funny how people perceive you
Speaker 1: like you don't even know what they think. Of you like, sure,
Speaker 1: that's so interesting. I appreciate that feedback. There is nothing
Speaker 1: like a dame. I hope it was a good experience
Speaker 1: because I know the Jewels storyline is like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a fun storyline, and I wish I had gotten
Speaker 1: more Jewels. I'm glad that we got more than the
Speaker 1: one or two episodes you thought it was going to be.
Speaker 1: I know, we too. We Too was literally such an
Speaker 1: amazing experience. Oh, we know, what was gonna say, I
Speaker 1: just remembered it. Um, what I was gonna say is
Speaker 1: so you talk about kind of like showing up and
Speaker 1: doing all this stuff. And first of all, it was
Speaker 1: really really hard because I you know, again, nobody wants
Speaker 1: you to do anything other than the one thing you're doing,
Speaker 1: and so we had to fight and fight and fight.
Speaker 1: Can we do this? Can we do that? Can we
Speaker 1: do this? And by the way, my male co stars
Speaker 1: historically could do the exact same thing I asked for,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't. Right, I literally think, oh my god,
Speaker 1: the examples are so horrendous and evil and bad. But anyway,
Speaker 1: he thought, and I'll never forget, Kevin actually threw the
Speaker 1: gauntlet down for me to do one tree Hill really
Speaker 1: called the executive and said she's doing it. I think
Speaker 1: he said something like she's doing it. And I remember
Speaker 1: being in an airport shaking because I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: the right thing to do. Oh my god. We just
Speaker 1: bought a house and I'm like, how are we gonna
Speaker 1: pay for things? And I get fired and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and he just grew down. He's like, listen for weekends.
Speaker 1: You know, she's she's working for you guys, seven days
Speaker 1: a week or whatever. She's gonna do this and that's it.
Speaker 1: There's just like so we like fired the shot, and
Speaker 1: we really but I'm so grateful because I would never
Speaker 1: have had that experience and you know, they would have
Speaker 1: chewed me up and spit me out at some point anyway.
Speaker 1: So now I got to have all these really amazing
Speaker 1: experiences with great people and great friendships that I've built
Speaker 1: throughout the years. So well, we have to have an
Speaker 1: in real life reunion once you get better. Please, um
Speaker 1: you guys located? Are you guys only cal No? I'm
Speaker 1: in New York. Okay, I'm in California right now, and
Speaker 1: so Sophia, but she's also in Toronto, So where are you?
Speaker 1: I'm in l A. Okay. Where did you grow up?
Speaker 1: By the way, Austin, Okay, that's why the Lord and Taylor.
Speaker 1: I was like, are you jersy? So maybe that's what
Speaker 1: we'll do. Yeah, let's have it get together. Oh my god. Fun.
Speaker 1: We'll kidnap Hillary and we'll have a little get together.
Speaker 1: Just come to the ranch. Oh, yes, we'll go to
Speaker 1: the ranch. Yeah, I've got I'm becoming an adult life change.
Speaker 1: Covid reassess was getting a ranch up in wine country
Speaker 1: in California. So we can drive here and and ban
Speaker 1: we can. We love the men, Kevin included, but we'll
Speaker 1: just ban them for the weekend that we road trip.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, a road trip with Jules. She's a
Speaker 1: bad driver, remember, Oh my god? Should we take a
Speaker 1: convertible Mustang from Dan Scott votors? Hey, do we have
Speaker 1: any fan questions that Maria can answer with us? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: fan questions? And then we spin a wheel for our
Speaker 1: Our superlatives are most likely to um, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: I can't believe Keith dying that I have no recollection.
Speaker 1: I'm so crazy. I hadn't even remember how evil I was.
Speaker 1: I didn't even remember my own storyline. To be honest,
Speaker 1: I had to go back and watching a little bit
Speaker 1: last night. Maria. I didn't remember that you were evil
Speaker 1: until we read the prep duc for you coming on
Speaker 1: this episode. I'm so enamored with jewels that I forgot.
Speaker 1: I definitely pulled us all friends. We have a we
Speaker 1: have a wheel. It has been spun the superlative this week.
Speaker 1: Most likely to win an Olympic gold medal, Maria, we
Speaker 1: pick a cast member like a real life person but
Speaker 1: also a character on the show. So who do we
Speaker 1: think is most likely to win an Olympic gold medal?
Speaker 1: I mean, didn't I guess it would have been, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've probably would have write like you were such a
Speaker 1: like focus go get her or like perfect Yeah, whatever
Speaker 1: Sophia put her mind to, she would have so would
Speaker 1: win in like archery, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: you would take like you know, I'll take it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would. I need I could. I when you guys,
Speaker 1: when the Hunger Games came out, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I could really get Catinus up in this if things
Speaker 1: got I love that plan, So I'll take that. Compliment
Speaker 1: wasn't and my crazy wasn't. Paul on Canada he was
Speaker 1: actually so falls. The answer for that, for sure is
Speaker 1: really the answer. But honestly, I love the thank you
Speaker 1: um which character from the show? I mean, poor Nathan
Speaker 1: and his high flyers situation. It could have been a contender.
Speaker 1: I feel like it would have been Quentin if it
Speaker 1: hadn't gone south for him. Oh Quinton, Yeah, that's another
Speaker 1: person that dies, Maria. We have a whole slew of
Speaker 1: them so much. There was a lot of law Centrey Hill,
Speaker 1: Good god, it's a game of thrones around here. Well,
Speaker 1: Jules is thriving out there somewhere. I just know. I
Speaker 1: feel like Jewels should have come back and got a
Speaker 1: bartending job at Trick. That would have been the ticket
Speaker 1: bartend on the show at one. I feel like, yes,
Speaker 1: I think I did. I didn't I remember working like
Speaker 1: I remember working there for some reason, weird. I guess
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out. We're just going to plow through
Speaker 1: all these episodes. What's your drink, Maria? This is where
Speaker 1: I throw my brain tumor car down. I'm like, alright, folks,
Speaker 1: well we're all going to get together at some point,
Speaker 1: hopefully very soon in two and we want everyone to
Speaker 1: listen to your podcast when does it? What days does
Speaker 1: it drop? We are a daily show actually, so amazing.
Speaker 1: How do you have the energy? Yeah? I gone off
Speaker 1: the board. Actually we went daily and COVID so co
Speaker 1: I was a weaker and I felt like I needed
Speaker 1: to be with everybody. So I was like, Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: do this every day and it'll probably last like two weeks.
Speaker 1: And so here we are amazing better together with Mariam
Speaker 1: the Ness on YouTube and up podcasts, and then I
Speaker 1: launching a website companion for the show. Um mid January. Amazing.
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