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Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl drama, Girl, all about them

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Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a rod in

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Speaker 1: You might as well be strangers. Girls, You're not strange.

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Speaker 1: J K. That's the name of the episode. This aired

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Speaker 1: October and four after dare Knight, resulted in new arrangements,

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Speaker 1: Here we go. A midnight meteor shower finds Lucas sharing

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Speaker 1: This was directed by Sandford Bookstaver, who we all raved about.

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Speaker 1: We never got him back ever, Why didn't he ever?

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Speaker 1: Comes like he was great because he was on fire,

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Speaker 1: are beautiful. He looked that techno crane so beautifully, those

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Speaker 1: you have been a martyr called Keith. See what Keith

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Speaker 1: kind of dipping my toe and acting in some student

426
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: films and things like that. Was it a hard transition

427
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: going from being a reporter into acting? Was that? How

428
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: was that for you? Did it feel like a strategy

429
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: to feel like a new adventure. Well, it's funny because

430
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: back then people weren't multi hyphen It's right, exactly. Everybody

431
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: was a very particular box. Yeah, and they were really

432
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: really against it, Like everybody was like, she can't act,

433
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: she's a reporter. And I have to give my husband

434
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: credit because he was the one who was like why not,

435
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: why can't you do everything? He was there, He was

436
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: there with you, wasn't he He did. He came down

437
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: at some point. Um, I remember we had a ship

438
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: one of my dogs to my parents. I will never

439
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: forget they go money. Don't tell anybody that we baby

440
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: sitting in the dog. They're gonna think we're crazy. But

441
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: yeah we um. He pushed me and I just you know,

442
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to do so many different things. I was

443
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: so curious, and I always had the kind of mindset

444
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: of like, we only live once, why would we just

445
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: stick to one thing? Why wouldn't we explore and try things?

446
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: And so I loved it. I had so much fun.

447
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: In fact, throughout the years after, you know, because I

448
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: did some other acting. I did, you know, Fantastic four,

449
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: and I did um this other movie called Kicking at

450
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: Old School with Jamie Kennedy and Trumpic Thunder and stuff.

451
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: What I realized about myself is I was always happiest

452
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: on a movie center, a TV set, not necessarily because

453
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: I really wanted to be an actor per se, but

454
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: because I really liked focusing on one thing. And it's

455
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: funny how different things in your life will teach you

456
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: things about yourself. Like I was so overstretched and doing

457
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: so many things at some point that I was like well,

458
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: when when am I happiest? And I'm like, oh, it's

459
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: when I'm on a set because I'm so no good

460
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: at it that I have to focus really hard, right,

461
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: yes you are or not like or maybe I shouldn't

462
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: be like negative. But the point is it wasn't my

463
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: strong suit. My strong suit's hosting right, that was, like

464
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: I think, Um, I had never been trained, so I

465
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: had to really give it everything I had. And I

466
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: loved that energy of being able to focus someone things.

467
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 1: So there are so many times in my life as

468
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: I continue to be a multi hyperniteddu way too many

469
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: things where I'm like, how do I gravitate back to that?

470
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: Just one thing? So okay, if you could pick, like

471
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: your perfect movie or perfect TV show to do, what

472
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: would you like? What's your dream gig? Currently? Um? You

473
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: know it's it's such a tough landscape. I feel like

474
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: the world has changed so much, not just because of

475
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: the pandemic, but I'm sure, I mean, gosh, I have

476
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: to have you ladies on my show at some point

477
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: so we can talk about this because I don't want

478
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: to take up your show. Make my baby give it,

479
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: give it. The acting world has changed so much and

480
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear from you guys on it

481
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: because it's so splinter The whole business is splintered, hosting, acting,

482
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: everything is splintered. It's like you get you a little

483
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: fief to them and stay with your fiefdom and then

484
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: that's it. Um. I have to say I've been doing

485
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: a little bit more acting randomly. I did a holiday

486
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: movie I think Bethany I saw you in one recently, right, Yes, yes,

487
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: I was. I saw you. I was like, oh my god,

488
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: she looks so beautiful and she's still exact same. Oh

489
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: my god, So I like you and I loved it.

490
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: Oh no, you did it with um Janna. Yeah, yes,

491
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: I saw Jane posting like beautiful pictures on a wharf

492
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: for something with you, and I'm like, I know, we

493
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: had such a good time and it's so funny because

494
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: you know we're all just here right now. But um,

495
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: but yeah. And then I have another um Netflix series

496
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: coming out I think in April with a very famous

497
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: comedian where I get to be something. So my scene

498
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: now is just my podcast. I really am trying to

499
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: build that kind of like health wellness, life improvement space

500
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: for people to come where they don't have to fight

501
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: about politics and they don't have to think about all

502
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: the dreary, horrible things. It's like, how do we how

503
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: do we roll with the punches, how do we live

504
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: better lives? How do we live happier and healthier? And

505
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: take everything that I've gone through in the last few

506
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: years and teach people what I've learned. Being your own

507
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: boss as a woman is the most empowering thing. And

508
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, we all kind of came up in the

509
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: business at the same time where we were at the

510
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: mercy of a lot of dudes, and so to see

511
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: so many women take the reins is exciting. Yeah, the

512
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: fact that you came up during a time when they're

513
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: everything was so segregated, you couldn't sort of be outside

514
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: of your box, and the fact that you did break

515
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: the mold in so many ways is a huge testament

516
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: to not only your gifts and abilities, but who you

517
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: are as a person. That you just could see through

518
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 1: the barriers, these sort of arbitrary barriers that have been

519
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: put up and decided to just do your own thing.

520
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so bad ass, Maria, and I

521
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's so inspiring too, because to

522
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: the point of what we're talking about. You know, for

523
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: folks listening at home, it might seem weird to think

524
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: about now, but when our show launched, you know, Mario,

525
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: when you were beginning your hosting career, you were really

526
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: told that you could only do one thing. So if

527
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: you were a TV host, you were a TV host.

528
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: If you did television, you could not do movies. If

529
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: you did movies, you wouldn't dare to go on a

530
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: TV show, if you know journalists or journalists. Everything was

531
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: so specific. Even the idea that singers might act was

532
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: a shock to anyone. And now we we think it's

533
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: so funny because if you're creative, you're creative. If you're

534
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: a storyteller, whether you write music or articles, or film

535
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: and TV, whatever, it's all of this is a creative medium.

536
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: And so it's almost crazy now to consider that we

537
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: all make film, television, movies, We work in journalism, political spaces.

538
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: We you know, some people on this show make music,

539
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: and you know, not just albums, but write musicals. I mean,

540
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: like Joy, you do eighty seven things in music alone.

541
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: And it's like, isn't it wild that there was an era,

542
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: especially when we were all being sort of born as artists,

543
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: where other people were telling us what we could and

544
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: could not do. It's it is crazy now because with

545
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: the advent of new tech, like anyone can do anything

546
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: even from home. It's it's surreal. And you really did

547
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: set examples for a lot of people, us included I

548
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: want to dig into your personal life. Well you have

549
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: been to watch this episode. I did, Yeah, I watched

550
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: it last night. So right before we my husband, I

551
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: was like so excited, like I'm not an americment Oh no,

552
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: you right. So many years later you're like, oh, I

553
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: definitely happen. There's no way I didn't suck. That was

554
00:31:54,600 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: like the first time. So you're so cute. So we're

555
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: lamenting Danielle Alonso's character caring so much about her brother's

556
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: opinion about who she's dating. But you're telling us that,

557
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: like your cousins set you up with your husband? Did they?

558
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: Did he mean to set you up? Or was this

559
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: supposed to be a business thing but the career set up?

560
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: But when I met Kevin, I was like, Oh, he's

561
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: the one. He doesn't know it yet, so I'm just

562
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: gonna have to force him to fall in love with me.

563
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: I love it good. I'm glad he didn't know. No,

564
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: I was like a chubby nineteen year old guy coming

565
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: in from I was forty ground seven or than I

566
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: am now. Of course I was. It was so cute. Yeah,

567
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: I mean listen, I was tall, so I wore it

568
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: pretty well. But I was just this kid and he

569
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: was like this, you know, filmmaker guy from Hollywood or whatever,

570
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: and so yeah, he had no idea that I was like, no,

571
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: it's you. How long have you guys went together at

572
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: this point twenty four years in April. It's amazing, especially

573
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: in our industry, you know what I mean, Like you're

574
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you work so so much. I love how

575
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: rounded you are with your family, um and with your

576
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: relationships and the fact that you can just like pick

577
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: up with people like the last time you saw them

578
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: was yesterday and it's been what fifteen years. It's I

579
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,239
Speaker 1: also remember being so struck then and I and I

580
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: still am so impressed by it and love to kind

581
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: of witness it as a person who adores you, as

582
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: we all do. I remember being young, and you know,

583
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: having this sort of first experience and definitely realizing that

584
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of men in the world who are

585
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: very threatened by successful women. And you came on our

586
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: show with this husband who you know is what is

587
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: he like at least ten years older than you, and

588
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: you're you're coming into act and you've got this hosting

589
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: career and you're running from you know, a war zone

590
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: here to the oscars there and going to MTV and

591
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: going to eat and coming to work with us. And

592
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: he was walking around with you, holding one of the

593
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: dogs and just beaming watching you and the way he

594
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: talked about you. And you'd like, go to shoot a scene,

595
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, we'd all be down on the river um

596
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: and two of us wouldn't be on camera, so we'd

597
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: be at video village and he was at video village

598
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: and he's like, God, just look at her. She's good

599
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: at everything. And he was so proud of you, and

600
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: it it really it set such an example for me

601
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: in in what I would not tolerate less of in

602
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: my relationships moving forward as I became an adult, I

603
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh, no, no, there are people who will

604
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,479
Speaker 1: love your success and be proud of if they're not. Yeah,

605
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: if they're threatened, that's there and it's not your responsibility.

606
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: And I just got I just think about him all

607
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: the time, standing there with that cute little baseball app

608
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,959
Speaker 1: just watching you and like being so in love with

609
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: you being the best version of yourself. It was very cool.

610
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you guys are so so beautiful. Thank

611
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: you for that, because you're gonna make me cry. Um,

612
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure he listens to this, because you

613
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: know it is it is hard, I know for so

614
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: many people to find somebody that is going to root

615
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: for them, and he really has, I mean so rooted

616
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: for me every second of every day for almost twenty

617
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: four years, and you're reminding me of how much I

618
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: should appreciate him even more. I wanted to ask what

619
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: you remember about Wilmington's. You know you said you came in.

620
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: I've had a big breath of fresh air every time

621
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: you got there because your life was so such a blur.

622
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: What do you remember what? What did you love about

623
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: that town? What do you remember about your filming experience too?

624
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: I loved every second of all of it. Um. I

625
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 1: think getting to have fun, you know, for me, because

626
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: I grew up cleaning nightclubs, I didn't get to go

627
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: do all the things that kids got to do and

628
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: have fun. So when I look back at my career,

629
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: it was seems like One Tree Hill. Even Fantastic four,

630
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: I had like two scenes. But we were there for months,

631
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: so I got to have like almost like a college

632
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: experience where we would just like go out and party

633
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: every summer camp or Dancing with the Stars where I

634
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: got to have my dance recitals. But as an adult,

635
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: my parents come see my dancer cital, and so I

636
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: look back at those moments where I'm like, wow, okay,

637
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 1: I got my fun in kind of like a hyper

638
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: insane way. Wilmington's was gorgeous. I remember loving it there.

639
00:36:52,160 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: And there was that ice cream shop. Remember what's it called? Yes, uh,

640
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: what was your flavor? What did you go get? I'm

641
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: always like a cookie dough person, or was a cookie

642
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: dough person then very much now, but I was die

643
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: hard cookie dough. Yeah, that's awesome. Cookie dough on a waffre.

644
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: Did you stay? Were you at the Riverview Sweets or

645
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: were you Did you get an apartment while you were there?

646
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: I was that's the Hilton right the river we were

647
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, it was so nice. It was just

648
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: like I could breathe. I feel like it was so great.

649
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: And you guys were all so loving and warm and fun.

650
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: And I remember all your dogs, Sophia, a little rescue

651
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: troop always. How many do you have now? Just one?

652
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: Can you believe it? I know I'm gonna do so,

653
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, look at us. At what point do

654
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: you direct? Like, at what point, after conquering all of

655
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: this stuff do you say, Okay, I'm in the boss chair,

656
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: this is my time. That's funny. Um, I directed a

657
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: little I did a short film, um years ago. I

658
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: think that one went to so Fire tried Doka. I

659
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: don't remember. We did a couple of different movies that

660
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: Kevin directed, and then I directed a short. I really

661
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: like directing a lot. It's funny you say that. I like,

662
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: I have always looked at everything in life like a shot,

663
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: which is so weird. I don't know why, but um,

664
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: but then, of course now it's like a whole other life,

665
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: right because now with iPhones everything is a shot. But

666
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: preceding iPhones, everything was a shot in my head. And

667
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: I love I love working with actors and I love

668
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: all of that. So I don't know, it just seems

669
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: like it seems like so much work now. I think

670
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm like retired into old but I am going to

671
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: direct a documentary. Um, Joe Burlinger is going to mentor

672
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: me through directing a documentary on my brain tumor journey

673
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: and my mom's and kind of the parallels I'm seeing

674
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: in women today and and basically pointing out some of

675
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: that to everybody. So um, so I'm working on that

676
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: right now. He's literally like the best. I'm so excited

677
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: for you to move into that space. Thank you do

678
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: you find because one of the things that I think

679
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: is really interesting about you know, all of us in

680
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: the way that, like you said, we pick up exactly

681
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: where we left off, and we talk a lot on

682
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: this show about how we're all at a point in

683
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: our life. We're really nothing's off limits, you know, like,

684
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: let's share the lessons, let's get let's get into the stuff,

685
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: whether we agree or disagree or we're processing something. And

686
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: you know, on your podcast on Better Together, you open

687
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: up so much about all of this major life events stuff,

688
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: and like you said, you do it in a way

689
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: where it's about wellness and growth and and you're talking about,

690
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, what you went through with your brain tumor,

691
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: what your mother went through with her cancer. This is

692
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: big life stuff that a lot of people go through,

693
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: but a lot of people don't often feel like they

694
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: can talk about. Do you do you feel like all

695
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: the years where you've been a storyteller, where you've built

696
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: these connections with audiences and people, do you do you

697
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: feel like you want to heal out loud so that

698
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: other people can do that with you. That's an interesting

699
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: way to put it, actually, to heal out loud. I

700
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: think I was healing out loud when I started the

701
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: show because it was partly I wanted to financers to

702
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: help my mom through her cancer journey, and I knew

703
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: I had access to people. I knew I had access

704
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 1: to the best of the best, and I knew that

705
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: I would be able to help others have that access.

706
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: And then at the same time, UM be able to

707
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: help my mom and myself really my mom, But you

708
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: never know, there were always some nuggets for me there too.

709
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: But I think, um, you know, I just love helping people.

710
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: That's always been something that's been in my heart and

711
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: what I loved and admired so much about watching an

712
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: Oprah in life right, she loved helping with people, and

713
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: that was something I loved about her. I love about

714
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: Tony Robbins. I love about so many people, so I

715
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: love helping people. And I think that's kind of why,

716
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: because I know if I'm open and vulnerable, someone else

717
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: will be able to be open and vulnerable, and someone

718
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: else will share something that might help us all kind

719
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: of unlock something. Right. That's why I always say we're

720
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: better together. Yeah, So yeah, what what inspired you? Just so?

721
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: When did you start the podcast? Was it initially you

722
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: started specifically because of what your mom was going through

723
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: or did you Is it something that was ruminating for

724
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: a long time. I think I shifted it shifted the

725
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: title to that I started doing the podcast. It was

726
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: funny Kevin Um. One day I came home from e

727
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: then he had blown out our garage and I'm like,

728
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: what are you doing you psycho? He's like, this is

729
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 1: your future and I go what? And he was building

730
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: a podcast studio in the garage and he goes, this

731
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: is your future. Ire me talking about this weirdo. This

732
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: has literally been twenty four years and me calling a

733
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: long yard and not understanding. But he has such a vision,

734
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: so he built the studio. Soon after, I get a

735
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: brain tumor, my mom got to brain tom I get

736
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: a brain tumor and I had surgery, and so I

737
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: had like no balance and you know, affected some nerves.

738
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: So all I could do was use my walker and

739
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,479
Speaker 1: get into the studio and and do my show there.

740
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: So it ended up being, you know, where I kind

741
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: of started my podcasting, and and then at some point,

742
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: like the show um shifted into such health and wellness

743
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: out of necessity because of my mom. Yeah, so it

744
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: was organic. It just kind of happened. It was what

745
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: I was already interested in. I've always been interested in

746
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: life improvement, self improvement and health and wellness, but then

747
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: it became very very important and very tough of mind. So,

748
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: and what are the things that keep you staying positive

749
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: and motivated when you're going through tough times and you know,

750
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: as you process the things that you're talking about on

751
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: your show. Well, I was talking about this recently, Like

752
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: I think life is like a roller coaster, right, I

753
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: love roller coasters. Do you guys like roller coasters? I do?

754
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: So why do we love roller coasters? Because we're gonna

755
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: scare the s out of us and then we're gonna

756
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: get to the other side, right, So it's like we

757
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: know we're going to be okay. I'm locked in. Yeah, Like,

758
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: no matter what, we're always going to be okay. So

759
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: I love I love the analogy of a roller coaster

760
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: because it's highs and lows. We're gonna have them. It's inevitable.

761
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: Life isn't supposed to be fair, it's not going to

762
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: be perfect. It's how we choose to go through it.

763
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: And so I made a conscious decision. It took me

764
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: a second. I had to gather myself because when you

765
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: hear your mom as stage four brain cancer, it is

766
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: the most paralyzing, worst moment of your life. Yeah, but

767
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: I said, okay, we're going to go through this with

768
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: like faith and with um, with you know, as much

769
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: laughter and comedy as possible. And the same thing. When

770
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: I was diagnosed, I was like, okay, now it's pure comedy.

771
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean I was crashing jokes with the surgeon the

772
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: second I walked in there, I go, hey, so you

773
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: see this mother daughter tumor thing often And he was

774
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: like God, and I'm like, okay, then serious here, Okay.

775
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: To the point where I had I had promised him

776
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: I would go to this charity event where they were

777
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: honoring him. It was June seven, I get diagnosed like sometimes.

778
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: I think it was like in April or something, and

779
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: he's like, well, I can operate on the eighth of June.

780
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: I said, well, that's my birthday. It's perfect. It's a rebirth.

781
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: And he goes, well, obviously you're not going to make

782
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: it on the seventh and I go, no, I'll be

783
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: there and he's like what. And so I show up

784
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: to this charity and then you guys, and it's at

785
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: the Stave Bonds house. The Save Bonds are these like

786
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: oper wealthy family whatever in Beverly Hills, and I see

787
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: Dr Black and I'm like, hey, to drink minimum. You're

788
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: in my brain tomorrow morning. I'm watching you. And so

789
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: then they're showing brain surgeries that he's operated on on

790
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: the screens and I'm looking around. I see like Ted

791
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: Surranda's from Netflix there and all these people. I'm like,

792
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: no one has a clue, but this man is going

793
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: to be cutting my skull open and removing it to

794
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: murder tomorrow. We this is insane, but yeah, I mean,

795
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: I definitely am someone who honors my commitments. So I

796
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: went and it's bananas, but you know, life is gonna

797
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: have throw it's purballs. That's why I love Rocky so much.

798
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: She says, It's not about how hard you hit, It's

799
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward,

800
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: how much you can take and keep moving forward. And

801
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: so I think we all have choices how we want

802
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: to go through things. And I know that the decision

803
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: to use comedy and to to make it as light

804
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: as possible made our journey easier, and so I highly

805
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: encourage it because having your pity party, we can all

806
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 1: have our pitty party for a minute. I had one

807
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: the other day on you know when I'm like, oh

808
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: Christmas is ruined. Kevin and I both have COVID. This

809
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: is great, Okay, go on our trip. But that took

810
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: a minute, and then I was like, okay, this is

811
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: probably happening for a reason, Well what is it? Then

812
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 1: you did again, You're like, well, I need a rest,

813
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: and I think God is just forcing arrest. And I

814
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: think that's you know, there's always a reason behind things.

815
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: It's so important. I think this is such a valuable

816
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: outlook because it seems like a very it's a very

817
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: common theme right now in our modern Western society. The

818
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: entitlement to not suffer the entitlement to this idea that, um,

819
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be inconvenienced, I shouldn't be suffering, I shouldn't

820
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: be going through anything. I have a right to my

821
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: perfect life. Um. And it shows up in so many ways,

822
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: and um, it is so hard to I don't know.

823
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know if it's just this

824
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: new generation or just what's happening with culturally in our

825
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: in our society right now. But I think it's what

826
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: you're talking about as a message that's really important for

827
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: people to listen to and to reevaluate where we are

828
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: in life. Yeah, you know, it's so interesting that you

829
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: freeze it that way. Joy part of what I've really

830
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: been wondering a lot about, which I know is a

831
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 1: bit ironic considering we're all connecting via devices from four

832
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: different places around the country. But I think there's like

833
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: a dissonance happening because so many people are on devices

834
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 1: so much of the day, and what people share out

835
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: in the digital world is their highlight reel so sub

836
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: anxiously or even consciously. Now we all think everyone's out

837
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: there having this Instagram perfect life, and suddenly we go, well,

838
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: why am I the only person having a hard day,

839
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, everyone's having a hard day, they're

840
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: just not posting about it. And I really wonder how

841
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: well that's by the way, it feeds the mentality that

842
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: I'm talking about that entitlements like I should something wrong

843
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: with me. Yes, yeah, that's what I mean. And that's why,

844
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: to bring it full circle, I think a show like yours,

845
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: Maria is so important because when you let people get

846
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: real about what's going on, when you let people in.

847
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: I mean, it's why I started my podcast, That's why,

848
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: it's why I launched Work in Progress to have like long,

849
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Speaker 1: deep talks but are honest and funny and hard. It's

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00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: why when we launched this show, we were like, well,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about let's talk about let's get into it.

852
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the weird misogyny. Let's talk about what

853
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: was really stup culturally back then. Let's talk about what

854
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: we've all learned. Let's talk about what was hilarious. Like

855
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: when you when you can be your whole self in

856
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: a space, I think you do give other people permission

857
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: to do the same. And it is like kind of

858
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: an out of body experience that I know I'm having

859
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: as the four of us talk about this right now

860
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: because I realized I don't think I could have consciously

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00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: articulated this at three. But you showed up for us

862
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: when we were twenty three, and you were an example

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00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: of this living out loud then, and we didn't have,

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Speaker 1: you know, women really too to set examples for us,

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Speaker 1: who were producers and hosts, all the people in power

866
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: on our show. We're men, and you showed up and

867
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Speaker 1: you were like, oh, I'm in power. I have five companies.

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Speaker 1: And we were like, that's that's allowed. Oh we should

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Speaker 1: all we should try to be like Maria. I'm like, God,

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Speaker 1: I let that on a T shirt. I want to

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00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: be like Maria on a T shirt. Be like Maria.

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00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: You had that energy where all the boys wanted to

873
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 1: flirt with you, but you demanded respect and used humor

874
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: in a way that they never from from an outside observer.

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Speaker 1: They didn't trivialize you the way some other girls got trivialized,

876
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Speaker 1: like you were well respected on our set. Are like

877
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Speaker 1: grips and electrics were like that, Maria, she's a dame,

878
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: you know. Like it's so funny how people perceive you

879
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: like you don't even know what they think. Of you like, sure,

880
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: that's so interesting. I appreciate that feedback. There is nothing

881
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: like a dame. I hope it was a good experience

882
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: because I know the Jewels storyline is like, you know,

883
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: it's a fun storyline, and I wish I had gotten

884
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: more Jewels. I'm glad that we got more than the

885
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Speaker 1: one or two episodes you thought it was going to be.

886
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Speaker 1: I know, we too. We Too was literally such an

887
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: amazing experience. Oh, we know, what was gonna say, I

888
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: just remembered it. Um, what I was gonna say is

889
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: so you talk about kind of like showing up and

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Speaker 1: doing all this stuff. And first of all, it was

891
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: really really hard because I you know, again, nobody wants

892
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 1: you to do anything other than the one thing you're doing,

893
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: and so we had to fight and fight and fight.

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00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: Can we do this? Can we do that? Can we

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Speaker 1: do this? And by the way, my male co stars

896
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: historically could do the exact same thing I asked for,

897
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: but I couldn't. Right, I literally think, oh my god,

898
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: the examples are so horrendous and evil and bad. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: he thought, and I'll never forget, Kevin actually threw the

900
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: gauntlet down for me to do one tree Hill really

901
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: called the executive and said she's doing it. I think

902
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: he said something like she's doing it. And I remember

903
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: being in an airport shaking because I'm like, this is

904
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: the right thing to do. Oh my god. We just

905
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: bought a house and I'm like, how are we gonna

906
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: pay for things? And I get fired and all this stuff,

907
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: and he just grew down. He's like, listen for weekends.

908
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: You know, she's she's working for you guys, seven days

909
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: a week or whatever. She's gonna do this and that's it.

910
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: There's just like so we like fired the shot, and

911
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: we really but I'm so grateful because I would never

912
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: have had that experience and you know, they would have

913
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: chewed me up and spit me out at some point anyway.

914
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: So now I got to have all these really amazing

915
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: experiences with great people and great friendships that I've built

916
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: throughout the years. So well, we have to have an

917
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: in real life reunion once you get better. Please, um

918
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: you guys located? Are you guys only cal No? I'm

919
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: in New York. Okay, I'm in California right now, and

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00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: so Sophia, but she's also in Toronto, So where are you?

921
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm in l A. Okay. Where did you grow up?

922
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: By the way, Austin, Okay, that's why the Lord and Taylor.

923
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: I was like, are you jersy? So maybe that's what

924
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: we'll do. Yeah, let's have it get together. Oh my god. Fun.

925
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: We'll kidnap Hillary and we'll have a little get together.

926
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: Just come to the ranch. Oh, yes, we'll go to

927
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: the ranch. Yeah, I've got I'm becoming an adult life change.

928
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: Covid reassess was getting a ranch up in wine country

929
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: in California. So we can drive here and and ban

930
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: we can. We love the men, Kevin included, but we'll

931
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: just ban them for the weekend that we road trip.

932
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god, a road trip with Jules. She's a

933
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: bad driver, remember, Oh my god? Should we take a

934
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: convertible Mustang from Dan Scott votors? Hey, do we have

935
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: any fan questions that Maria can answer with us? Oh? Yeah,

936
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: fan questions? And then we spin a wheel for our

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00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: Our superlatives are most likely to um, I'm looking at

938
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: I can't believe Keith dying that I have no recollection.

939
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm so crazy. I hadn't even remember how evil I was.

940
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 1: I didn't even remember my own storyline. To be honest,

941
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: I had to go back and watching a little bit

942
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: last night. Maria. I didn't remember that you were evil

943
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: until we read the prep duc for you coming on

944
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: this episode. I'm so enamored with jewels that I forgot.

945
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: I definitely pulled us all friends. We have a we

946
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: have a wheel. It has been spun the superlative this week.

947
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: Most likely to win an Olympic gold medal, Maria, we

948
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: pick a cast member like a real life person but

949
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: also a character on the show. So who do we

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00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: think is most likely to win an Olympic gold medal?

951
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean, didn't I guess it would have been, Yeah,

952
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: you've probably would have write like you were such a

953
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: like focus go get her or like perfect Yeah, whatever

954
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: Sophia put her mind to, she would have so would

955
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: win in like archery, you know what I mean, Like

956
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,959
Speaker 1: you would take like you know, I'll take it. Yeah,

957
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: I would. I need I could. I when you guys,

958
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: when the Hunger Games came out, I was like, oh,

959
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: I could really get Catinus up in this if things

960
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: got I love that plan, So I'll take that. Compliment

961
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: wasn't and my crazy wasn't. Paul on Canada he was

962
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: actually so falls. The answer for that, for sure is

963
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: really the answer. But honestly, I love the thank you

964
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: um which character from the show? I mean, poor Nathan

965
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: and his high flyers situation. It could have been a contender.

966
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: I feel like it would have been Quentin if it

967
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 1: hadn't gone south for him. Oh Quinton, Yeah, that's another

968
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: person that dies, Maria. We have a whole slew of

969
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 1: them so much. There was a lot of law Centrey Hill,

970
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: Good god, it's a game of thrones around here. Well,

971
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: Jules is thriving out there somewhere. I just know. I

972
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: feel like Jewels should have come back and got a

973
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: bartending job at Trick. That would have been the ticket

974
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: bartend on the show at one. I feel like, yes,

975
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: I think I did. I didn't I remember working like

976
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: I remember working there for some reason, weird. I guess

977
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out. We're just going to plow through

978
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: all these episodes. What's your drink, Maria? This is where

979
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: I throw my brain tumor car down. I'm like, alright, folks,

980
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 1: well we're all going to get together at some point,

981
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: hopefully very soon in two and we want everyone to

982
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: listen to your podcast when does it? What days does

983
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: it drop? We are a daily show actually, so amazing.

984
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: How do you have the energy? Yeah? I gone off

985
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: the board. Actually we went daily and COVID so co

986
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: I was a weaker and I felt like I needed

987
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: to be with everybody. So I was like, Okay, we'll

988
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: do this every day and it'll probably last like two weeks.

989
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: And so here we are amazing better together with Mariam

990
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: the Ness on YouTube and up podcasts, and then I

991
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: launching a website companion for the show. Um mid January. Amazing.

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Speaker 1: We're so happy to see you. Yeah you girl, You

993
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: love you. My friends, we love Mariam the New knows

994
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: we love you. We're so grateful that you spend your

995
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: time with us, spend your afternoons or your mornings. Maybe

996
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: you're in your morning commute, but we love hanging out

997
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: with you. And thanks for showing up every week with

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Speaker 1: us and can't wait to sissy you next week. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you soon. Don't forget he like Maria, Hey, thanks

1000
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review. You

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio dot Com. See you next time. We are

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