1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of r 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: f K Junior, running as an independ trent trend Trent 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: into trend and pent trendent into trendent trend day. This 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: will be our indo trendent day. Jack be Miles. We 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: got there and by there I mean too you know, 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: a thing that doesn't really make sense. 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: By there, we mean an end of a sentence. And 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: here we are. 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Here we are folks. Uh, Hi, Miles, how are you doing? 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: I'm well how about you? 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: Oh great? This is we're like. 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 1: Two hours into recording together for the day. 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, So that's why it sounds weird. Not 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 4: because we secretly hate each other, we really love each other. 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: Because this is you say that. 16 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 3: I told you not to say that. Okay, sorry, damn 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 3: it anyway. 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: Ruins the illusion, the illuse trent, the loose trends we got. 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: I can't, I can't. This is gonna be the whole episode. 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: I've had a cough for like six weeks. Yeah, I've 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: had one, like a wet cough too. 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: Joel had one. I mean I might have one. I 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: don't know. 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: I was gonna ask justin if if it's subsided. Everyone's 25 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 4: got this like for me, it's all like post nasal drip, 26 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 4: tickling my throat from the allergies. 27 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: Tickling thems vocal cords. But anyway, let's tell the people 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: about some things that are trending. There's there's a new 29 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: thing happening on in the world of I guess tech 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: and the right. But shakespeare skepticism mainly. 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: That Shakespeare was good. 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: It's not that like Shakespeare like didn't exist or he was, 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of different writers. It's like, what 34 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: you think Shakespeare good? I mean, let me hit you 35 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: with some Baysian with the Baysian priors on that, my dude. 36 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: So there's a new book by Michael Lewis where he 38 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: was kicking it with Sam bankmin Free during the collapse 39 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: of his empire, and I'll I'll just quote from the 40 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: book to Sam's way of thinking. The case against Shakespeare 41 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: could be made with basic statistics. 42 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I could. 43 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: And this is from him. I could go on and 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: on about the failings of Shakespeare, but really I shouldn't 45 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: need to. The Baysian priors are pretty damning. About half 46 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: the people born since sixteen hundred have been born in 47 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: the past hundred years. But it gets much worse than that. 48 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: When Shakespeare wrote, almost all Europeans were busy farming and 49 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: very few people attended university. Few people were even literate, 50 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: probably as low as ten million people. By contrast, they're 51 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: now upwards of a billion literate people in the Western sphere. 52 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: What are the odds that the greatest writer would have 53 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: been born in fifteen sixty four? The Bayesian priors aren't 54 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: very favorable. God, they love they love a Bayesian fucking prior, 55 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: don't they? 56 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, they love Baysian statistical and analysis. 57 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: Dude, they're like, yes, you know what I mean. 58 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 3: This sucks so bad. 59 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean, like it's it's a great speech about like 60 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: isn't it amazing that Shakespeare was such. 61 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: An incredible writer like he might yet at a. 62 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: Time when like it's it's so wild that he was 63 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: like just so incredible with like that that like our 64 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: greatest writer lived at this time. It's a real like 65 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: anomaly and it doesn't make sense. But clearly he lived, 66 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, he wrote, and everybody, like most people who 67 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: are literate agree his ship is pretty good. And instead 68 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: he's like, so therefore he must suck. He must just 69 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: not be good if he listens. 70 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 4: Sorry, that's how you just look at the world. You're 71 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: like weird rigid statistical analysis. No wonder you're into effective 72 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 4: altruism because there's no such thing for just God. I mean, 73 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 4: I don't sure I'm Shakespeare fine, I'm not a fan 74 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: or a hater. I'm like, yeah, oh yeah, cool Shakespeare. 75 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 4: But like the idea that like cool Shakespeare. Oh cool Shakespeare. Sure, man, 76 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: if that's what you're into. But like the arrogance people 77 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 4: being like this is just not that good, like come 78 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 4: on whatever, or like I could do that really. 79 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: Richard Hannania, who is guy. He's a writer. 80 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: He's the author of like some books about the woke mob. 81 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: I think is mainly like. 82 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: What origins of woke? 83 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 3: His origins of woke? 84 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: President of CSPI Center or who the fuck knows what 85 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: that is. 86 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 4: The Center for the Study of Partisanship in Ideology former 87 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 4: UT Austin. 88 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: Huh, I wonder what happened when at UT Austin. Anyways, 89 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: he has come through and said, pretty sure, if you 90 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: gave me a year, I could write Shakespeare quality work, 91 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: Like if someone hadn't read all of Shakespeare and you 92 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: randomly gave them me or him on average, they couldn't 93 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,119 Speaker 1: tell the difference. Of course, without the blind test, people 94 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: would pretend it wasn't as good. I don't have time, 95 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: of course. Okay, so I don't think I'm gonna do it. 96 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: But if someone wanted. 97 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: To, so I could write Shakespeare quality work. But I 98 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 3: don't have time. 99 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's such a great dude, that's the same thing. 100 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: Was just be fucking boring. 101 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: This is such rage a with the fucking glasses being 102 00:05:55,320 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: broken energy, Yeah, go ahead, these are indestructible glasses. Break Yeah, 103 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 4: I dare they can't break. And then when they do it, 104 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: I don't care do it. 105 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: I don't care. 106 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: I have time. 107 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: Like, oh, okay, this guy also too. 108 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 4: As I read more about his book, well, this guy's 109 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: a fucking trash white supremacist man. He's talking about like 110 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 4: the fucking Civil Rights like act. It was like the 111 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 4: origins of the downfall of America. 112 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 3: Complete. 113 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, gay, but hey, I'd love to see you try. 114 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not even out here. 115 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, I couldn't write a fucking sound it 116 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 4: if I wanted to, yeah, because my brain isn't in 117 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 4: that space. But I bet I could smoke a more 118 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 4: weed than Shakespeare. I'd be a better battle rapper than 119 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 4: William Shakespeare. 120 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: Oh man, way do you see uh lin Manuel Miranda's 121 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: Shakespeare biopic? 122 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: That's could it shot? 123 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 4: Like those YouTube like rap battle videos where it's like 124 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 4: a whole like there's like a whole cipher of people. 125 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: And he's like, oh, next, big Bill. 126 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: With the fucking ruffled collar and ship. 127 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: Big Willie shaky spear is uh. Dan O'Brien once called 128 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: him in a column, and I've never forgotten Big Willie 129 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: shaky spear, shaky spear. All right, Kevin McCarthy, We're not 130 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: We're not through with him yet, folks. 131 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: Nope. 132 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: First of all, he's claiming that what what happened in Israel, 133 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: uh is probably gonna happen in the United States when 134 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: you look at the dang border right here on there, 135 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: And have you. 136 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 4: Seen, dude, that was another huge misinformation ship that goring there, 137 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: Like oh yeah, like Hamas is activating terrorist cells in 138 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 4: the United States because. 139 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: Of the poorest southern border. 140 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: Uh huh. 141 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: Like it was so weird to see people share like 142 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 4: potential like warnings but not give detail or like if 143 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 4: you actually care about people, wouldn't you like alert people? 144 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 4: Or you're just saying like I've heard some weird stuff 145 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 4: and it's all because of the border. 146 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: That's right. 147 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 4: We found we found a way to make it about 148 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: everything else again. 149 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: But anyway. 150 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: He also doesn't know when to quit, and is saying 151 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: that he might be open to reclaiming the post from 152 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: which he was ousted last week. 153 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: This fool is just dude, can't Yeah, who is this? 154 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: Like, I mean, Apollo Creed I liked, So it's not 155 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 4: someone I want to be like, stay down, you know 156 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 4: what I mean? 157 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: Like, was that was that him? When they're like stay down? 158 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: You seeing like that? 159 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: What's a boxing movie where they're like stay down? 160 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: Well rock He's like, I'm gonna throw in the towel 161 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: and he's like, we're not You're not right. Yeah yeah, 162 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: that's maybe the big big energy of like no towel, no, 163 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: no towel. You're like, oh, sir, buddy, okay, but like 164 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: but I'm not rooting for you, so in a way 165 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, go ahead, yeah, yeah, yeah, no towel, 166 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: no towel. Right, right, Actually, get up, get on up, 167 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: Get on up, James Brown. 168 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 2: Come on now, let's see it. 169 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 3: Show the intro music for Apollo Creed entering the room. 170 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: That's okay, so we've got something here. 171 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: Woke, get on up, all right, Kevin McCarthy. 172 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: So he floated the possibility on Monday that he might 173 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: be open to reclaiming the post, summoned reporters to Capitol 174 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: Hill to lay out a plan to defend Israel and 175 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: rescue American captives, and it just felt like he was 176 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: still trying to interview for the job that he just. 177 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's like truly has that energy of like 178 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: dress for the job that you want, right even though 179 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 4: you don't have it where it's like, okay, you might 180 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 4: say that, but we already saw who the news speaker is. 181 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: It's the little guy with the with the boat tie 182 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: who likes to do smash. He smashed with the gavel. 183 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, does her gabble anymore? 184 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: Like is that his thing? Maybe? 185 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: No. 186 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: I think they're on a recess right now. 187 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: They may be coming back. 188 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 4: But again, it's also just another complication because as much 189 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: as you know, like any kind of aid package that 190 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 4: would potentially go to Israel like has to be you know, 191 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 4: what Congress would need to vote on that, but without 192 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: a speaker and like it being in dis like it 193 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: makes things a little bit sticky. 194 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, this is it's a lot. There's a lot 195 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: going on. 196 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 4: There's a lot going on, and Kevin McCarthy just doesn't 197 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 4: know when to I mean maybe he does know. 198 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 2: It would be so. 199 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 4: Wild if he was able to regain the speakership. That 200 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 4: would just make their republic like somehow No, there's no 201 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 4: way they can look more clowny or unseerious at this point, 202 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 4: so it would be predictable at this point. 203 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really feels like one of those things where like, wait, yeah, 204 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: have you ever known somebody who like that they're trying 205 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: to break up with someone, Like they break up with 206 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: them for like a minute, and then like it's just like, oh, 207 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: they're going to get back together, even though really I 208 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: feel like. 209 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 4: They say they break up all the time, it's not 210 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 4: even fucking real. Dude, Yeah, just said the next wedding, So. 211 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: Let's be honest about our conference. 212 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: Is our conference just going to elect somebody to throw 213 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: them out in another thirty five days, That's what he 214 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: told reporters. So like, I don't want the job back, 215 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: but like, come on, sure, if you get somebody else 216 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: isn't the same hang on her home runs, just putting 217 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: it out there. All right, let's take a quick break, 218 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: we'll be right back. We'll be back, and we're back, 219 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: We're back, and yeah, so, uh, you know, there's a 220 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: lot of there's like viral tweets going around that I 221 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: keep seeing like people being like you should reach out 222 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: to your Jewish friends and like let them know that 223 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: you care about them and that you stand if it 224 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: is real, And I don't. 225 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: Know, I guess it's never a bad idea to let somebody. 226 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: Know that you're there for them if they're going through 227 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: a difficult time as the implied, and let them know 228 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: you stand with Israel. That is getting lumped in. It 229 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: feels disingenuous and fucked up. But yeah, like I think 230 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: we all hope our Jewish friends know we stand with 231 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: them in opposition to anti Semitism and the slaughter of 232 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: innocent people, and hope they would stand with us in 233 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: opposition to white supremacy and the slaughter of yeah, I 234 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: mean Palestinian people. 235 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 4: Like I think it's a little I don't know if 236 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 4: it's like the same kind of like binary right in 237 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 4: just like so many people are experiencing this in from 238 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 4: so many different perspectives, whether you're like come from an 239 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: oppressed form or colonized society, community culture that is looking 240 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: at it this way, from people who have friends or 241 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 4: family in Israel who are just absolutely aghast at like 242 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 4: how horrific the violence is. I think the thing that's 243 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 4: really alarming for me is how much the media airwave 244 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 4: battle is being won by Israel and their interests, because 245 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 4: I'm seeing so many things that is just casually saying 246 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 4: the most dehumanizing language, Like Marco Rubio, he is not 247 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 4: able to differentiate between Hamas and Palistine Indian people living 248 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 4: in Gaza. He's like the way that like Palestinians are 249 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 4: even being all lumped in this together as a way 250 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: to be like, yeah, like they need to be eradicated, 251 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 4: And you're like, who, I'm just saying Gaza, it's got 252 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 4: to like it. That's what's really freaking me out, Like 253 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 4: the momentum at which we're just accepting violence around this 254 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: whole thing and not actually trying to understand like how 255 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: this can how we can like overcome anything, if there's 256 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 4: any sort of solution here, and just rather than being 257 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 4: like yeah, so that terrible thing happens. So I guess 258 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: now just have to destroy a city where the median 259 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 4: age is like eighteen because like almost children, Yeah, almost 260 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 4: half of the people that live there are are children 261 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 4: in Gaza. 262 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Israeli Defense minister like saying we 263 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: are fighting human animals and we act accordingly in a 264 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: speech where you know, is also saying like we are 265 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: imposing a complete siege on Gaza. There will be no electricity, 266 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: no food, no water, no fuel, everything will be closed. 267 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 3: Like that shit is just like that's like five alarm fire. 268 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: And as that is being said at that time, as 269 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: that press conference was happening, that is when like NBA 270 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: teams are coming up like making statements about standing with Israel, 271 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: and you know, the President of the United States, it's 272 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: taught making statements about standing with Israel, and yeah, it 273 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: just it feels like, I don't know, the same thing 274 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: is not being said about standing with innocent Palestinian people 275 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: being slaughtered. 276 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: No, no, And I think that's that's what's a little 277 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 4: bit weird, is I mean not weird like we were 278 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: saying before America, especially American media, because we also have 279 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 4: our colonial history. 280 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: It's just like a dimension that isn't spoken about. 281 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: Like so many things I see like on CNNMSNBC are 282 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: like the like horrific violence committed by Hamas. So now 283 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 4: like that rhetorically feels like therefore every person in Gaza's 284 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: fair game to die. And that is where like you're like, 285 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 4: we're completely losing sight of everything. But I don't know 286 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 4: if what I expect because America's you know, like again 287 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 4: they're steadfast to send whatever is needed there. I don't 288 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 4: know at what point America gets involved. I know you 289 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 4: hear like the punditry class talk about it's like, well, 290 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: this is where this is Joe Biden's moment where he 291 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: has to project power and he has to project the 292 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 4: authority of the United States. And I'm like, this is 293 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 4: such a weird calculus about Joe Biden's reelection that like 294 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 4: it's going to be all this like bluster talk when 295 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 4: we're talking about so many innocent people, like the people 296 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 4: of Israel are bearing the brunt of the foreign policy 297 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 4: decisions of their government, and the people of Palestine also 298 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 4: are caught up in this mix too, And then you 299 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: have people like Marco Ruby was like there's no off 300 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: ramp for this. There's no off ramp for this. Yeah, 301 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 4: and that inevitability I think is really disturbing and not 302 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 4: taking into again like the like how different it is 303 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 4: like this, Like again, like the defenseman was saying, they 304 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 4: have the ability to cut off power and water and 305 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 4: food to Gaza. That is that is asymmetrical. 306 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: Uh, Like I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to do 307 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: that to yes, yes, and people to non military. 308 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 4: A civilian population again, and the argument will be is 309 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 4: like that that I've heard people say that, like the 310 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 4: people in Gaza should have known that Hamas was going 311 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: to do this, Therefore they're complicit and we're it's just 312 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 4: like it's wild how even on the other side. And 313 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 4: and then but then you now see like more you 314 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 4: see increased Islamophobia, you see increased anti Semitism, right, and 315 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 4: all that rhetoric is just like spiraling in a way 316 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 4: that like I'm it's just this just looks like it's 317 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 4: it's just going to get worse and worse and worse, 318 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 4: Like for the entire region. 319 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: I think we can all agree to be against the 320 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: murdering of children and innocent. 321 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 2: Across the board. It doesn't seem like too hortic, but 322 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 2: that I don't know. 323 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, but again, that's that's why I'm like, uh, I, 324 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 4: there's so much like this conflict is so loaded and 325 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 4: there's so much tension around it that like one sentence 326 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: can be perceived like eight hundred different ways depending on 327 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 4: your worldview. And I think that's also a really dangerous 328 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 4: thing because it's it's also like it's just creating even 329 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 4: increased conflict between I'm even seeing it like in Instagram 330 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 4: posts between people like that we're not really political, but anyway, 331 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 4: I'm we're just here watching in awe and then I'm 332 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: just left here thinking of like even the United States 333 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 4: place and all of this, and it's all, fuck, it's 334 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 4: we're all we're all so connected in this way that's 335 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 4: really unavoidable. 336 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I like, innocent children, innocent people have been 337 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: being killed on the Palestinian side for a long time 338 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: and it was just being ignored. So like that's when 339 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: people are like, you know, call your friends on this side, 340 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 1: not that side. It's like, well, you know, that doesn't 341 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't really make sense to me, And it does 342 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: seem like I can see how like something that seems 343 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: well intentioned like that can feel like a fuck you 344 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: to one's side, you know. 345 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 4: The sort of like both sides of it too isn't helpful. 346 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 4: But again, I think like everyone is trying to point 347 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 4: out like that what is important to them in this instance. 348 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 4: But we're we're looking at a situation that from the beginning, 349 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 4: we're just seeing that the violence begets more violence, yeah, 350 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 4: and more destruction, and it's poisoning everyone at the end 351 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 4: of the day. But this is what happens when people 352 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 4: are colonized or occupied. It will fucking destroy you as 353 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 4: a person. Yea, Like when the place that you believe 354 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 4: you live, the country you believe you have, is gone. 355 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 4: That does things that most American people don't understand either. 356 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 4: And I think there's also like a very there's a 357 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 4: unique American ignorance that I see like applied to all 358 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 4: of this too, that people just look at it through 359 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 4: like the perspective of whatever they know, which is really 360 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 4: narrow in the context of shit that can happen to 361 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 4: you as a human being on planet Earth. Like you know, 362 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 4: we're we live in a place that fortunately has never 363 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 4: had a fucking like ground war, air war like reach 364 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 4: its shores like to the continental mainland, so it's like 365 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: an obscure thing, and airstrikes are like, yeah, I don't know, 366 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 4: sirens gone, and I see it on TV without understanding 367 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 4: like what the horror is of that. So yeah, a 368 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 4: lot of people are learning in real time, it feels 369 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 4: like online, which. 370 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: Is very, very freaky. 371 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like the United States particularly has the 372 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: muscles built up for ignoring the consequences of like aerial bombardment, 373 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: Like you see a flash of fire and a cloud 374 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: of dust, and that's just a thing that happens on 375 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: the news in a foreign country like that, that's the 376 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: only context that Americans have, And so that's. 377 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 4: When I think that's why the invasion of Ukraine was 378 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 4: like horrifying to a lot of like American people, because 379 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 4: they suddenly saw themselves in the faces of these like 380 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 4: Western European looking people. Yeah, like, oh my god, that's horrifying. 381 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, we seem to. 382 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: Come back to white supremacy repeatedly, over and over again. Yeah. 383 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: All right, well, those are some of the things that 384 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: are trending. We are back tomorrow with the whole lest 385 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other, 386 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: be kind to yourselves, Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing 387 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: about white supremacy, and we will talk to y'all tomorrow. 388 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 3: Bite bite