Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jettie and now he Armstrong and Jetty.
Speaker 3: The President getting ready to announce tariffs on at least,
Speaker 3: as he puts it, basically every country on Earth, every
Speaker 3: country that has import duties on US goods that starts Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Then on Thursday.
Speaker 3: In addition to the existing tariffs on aluminium steel, President
Speaker 3: Trump will impose a whopping twenty five percent tariff on
Speaker 3: all foreign made cars and auto parts right.
Speaker 4: Which, as we mentioned, polls show people expect prices to
Speaker 4: go up short term in about half the country things
Speaker 4: they're going to stay up long term. But here's someone
Speaker 4: on Trump's site explaining why this is a good long
Speaker 4: term plan.
Speaker 5: The President has a high threshold for pain because these
Speaker 5: tear people.
Speaker 2: Well, but also for his own political pay.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's taking a long term approach, which is
Speaker 5: actually kind of refreshing in American politics now. Whether he's
Speaker 5: right or wrong, but he's doing two things that are
Speaker 5: really really unusual in Washington. He's taking a long term view,
Speaker 5: and he's not listening to the critics.
Speaker 4: And now here's Stephen Miller, who would get more traction
Speaker 4: with more people if he didn't look like an evil villain.
Speaker 4: Since he's portrayed as an evil villain by the Left,
Speaker 4: he just happens to look like one from a movie.
Speaker 6: President Trump is resetting the entire global market by saying,
Speaker 6: number one, you can't steal our jobs. Number two, if
Speaker 6: you want to get preferential treatment, you have to put
Speaker 6: your factory inside the United States. You want to sell
Speaker 6: it to Americans on a preferential basis.
Speaker 2: Then you have to make it here.
Speaker 6: And if you do, you'll get low taxes, low regulations,
Speaker 6: and cheap energy. But if you sell it to us
Speaker 6: from overseas, then yes, you will pay a tariff.
Speaker 4: So the not even pushback, but question that a lot
Speaker 4: one of us have, I think, is so, how is
Speaker 4: so is General Motors going to build more plants in
Speaker 4: the night? How long does it take to build a
Speaker 4: car plant? They're going to build a plant in the
Speaker 4: next three years, even though the next president might do
Speaker 4: away with these, so you could keep.
Speaker 2: Building them in Mexico or wherever.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, there's a reasonable likelihood of that. I mean,
Speaker 1: it would be bad, but yeah, I was going to
Speaker 1: bring up the fact that the Trump administration has done
Speaker 1: fabulous things so far that have been cruelly under reported
Speaker 1: at deregulation, reducing the regulatory weight on American businesses and
Speaker 1: make it easier to build factories and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But it's still enormous undertaking.
Speaker 1: I mean, it takes years, months and many months, if
Speaker 1: not several years of planning before you break ground.
Speaker 4: Well, and but you'd also have the reality of So
Speaker 4: I'm General Motors and I said, Okay, this is the
Speaker 4: new world we live in. We're going to build a
Speaker 4: plant in Indiana, and we're going to make our our
Speaker 4: Chevy trucks one hundred percent here to avoid the tariffs.
Speaker 2: And you're editor, say, Ford.
Speaker 4: Sticks it out somehow, and then next administration, when the
Speaker 4: tariffs go away, your competitor can make the truck so
Speaker 4: much cheaper right wherever they're making them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, build their profit.
Speaker 1: And loss projections on both plans, and figure out, all right,
Speaker 1: how do we lose the least money.
Speaker 2: Ride it out.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get kicked in the butt for the next
Speaker 1: three and a half years, We're gonna pay tariffs, gonna
Speaker 1: hurt our sales. But if we conform, and then the
Speaker 1: laws change again, we would lose you know, ginormous amounts
Speaker 1: of money and have to rebuild our plant in Mexico
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Long, And that's the interesting thing about Trump, and it
Speaker 1: bothers me, although I'm waiting to see how this all
Speaker 1: shakes out, because often, you know, Trump throws so many
Speaker 1: headfakes out there you don't know where he's actually going,
Speaker 1: which is like completely unprecedented because presidents don't.
Speaker 2: Want to do that.
Speaker 1: They don't want to spook the markets, they don't want
Speaker 1: to freak out big American businesses. And so it's wild
Speaker 1: that he's this cavalier about causing you know, shock in
Speaker 1: horror and or pearl clutching. If it just ends up
Speaker 1: with being a reordering of the post WW two trade
Speaker 1: norms where of course we did charge us big tariffs
Speaker 1: because we're in economic colossus. We won't charge you because
Speaker 1: you got to get back on your feet. We understand
Speaker 1: that completely. If that's going to go away through this,
Speaker 1: great it's fabulous.
Speaker 2: So here is a question rather than a statement.
Speaker 4: I have said this before, but I've never read this anywhere,
Speaker 4: and I never hear anybody bring this up. So One
Speaker 4: of the things you regularly hear people say is, well,
Speaker 4: what's an American car company even mean anymore? Because I
Speaker 4: bought a Toyota truck that's built in Indiana. But and
Speaker 4: this is my question, Now, maybe there's something I'm missing here.
Speaker 4: If Ford gets in trouble, GM gets in trouble, Chrysler
Speaker 4: gets in trouble, it becomes a national crisis. The federal
Speaker 4: government steps in bails them out because we can't have
Speaker 4: these giant companies fail. That's never happened with Toyota or Volkswagen,
Speaker 4: these foreign companies. So obviously we're not It's not our
Speaker 4: job to make sure Toyota do is okay, but it
Speaker 4: is our job as a nation to make sure.
Speaker 2: GM stays in business.
Speaker 4: So then what sense is a Toyota made Indiana good
Speaker 4: for America?
Speaker 2: I don't get that.
Speaker 1: If I mean, the jobs at that plant are nice,
Speaker 1: but it's still a foreign company.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they pay all.
Speaker 1: Sorts of taxes, and you know, it generates a tremendous
Speaker 1: amount of revenue for the US. But yeah, the profits
Speaker 1: end up in a foreign bank unless they keep it
Speaker 1: in a US bank.
Speaker 2: So what does that even mean?
Speaker 1: Well, we obviously I've never heard anybody care if Toyota
Speaker 1: is struggling right in the United States, But we do
Speaker 1: care if GM is struggling.
Speaker 2: Right you know.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's a complicated question and I'm not really
Speaker 1: qualified to answer it.
Speaker 2: It has to do it. I just want to make
Speaker 2: this email or text.
Speaker 1: Why it seems to me to put a lie to
Speaker 1: the what's what's an American car?
Speaker 2: Anyway? This Toyota's made Indiana? Okay?
Speaker 1: Well, like I just said, nobody cares if Toyota does
Speaker 1: well or not as a company right right, and their
Speaker 1: stock is listed I don't know where the stock is listed.
Speaker 2: For instance.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking if I mean, if you have thousands
Speaker 1: and thousands of employees and you're paying zillions of dollars
Speaker 1: in property tax, you probably have incentives, but uh, property
Speaker 1: tax and sales tax, income taxes, payroll taxes, sales taxes
Speaker 1: at the point of sale, you know, just all of
Speaker 1: that stuff, and then your profits end up in a
Speaker 1: Japanese added Japanese headquarters, except you're almost certainly investing them
Speaker 1: in the American stock market. But if you remember, like
Speaker 1: during the Obama administration, we had to bail out GM
Speaker 1: to the tune of tens or hundreds of billions of dollars.
Speaker 1: It was a big deal, and it was like a
Speaker 1: you know, whipped up national mood that we've got to
Speaker 1: have this, We've got to have them American car companies succeed.
Speaker 2: How does that fit in with the whole thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Toyota, and so I've never understood it, and I never
Speaker 4: hear anybody bring it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's seek out a guest who's who's really
Speaker 1: good at that sort of thing. Oh, what was the
Speaker 1: other thing I was going to bring up? Was kind
Speaker 1: of related, popped out of my head. Well, I'll pop
Speaker 1: back in eventually. I love that question. It's really interesting.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I was going to bring up the US Steel thing,
Speaker 1: which is was so silly because if US Steel was
Speaker 1: named Jones Steel, nobody had given a crap.
Speaker 4: I honestly believe this. Most people, like ninety percent of people,
Speaker 4: when they hear US Steel, I think it's the United
Speaker 4: States Steel industry. That's what they think they're hearing about. Really, yes,
Speaker 4: as opposed to that's the name of the company. It
Speaker 4: could be Bob Steele, like you just said, it's just
Speaker 4: US Steel. Yeah, huh So they're willing to do anything
Speaker 4: to protect us steel.
Speaker 1: I think let me tip my cap very briefly to
Speaker 1: how annoying Jake Tapper was in that clip we played
Speaker 1: coming back. Donald Trump is willing to endure some pain
Speaker 1: other people's pain, right, Jake, you're just your're That's not
Speaker 1: fair because Trump is really laying it on the line
Speaker 1: here for long term gain for the country, even if
Speaker 1: you think he's wrong, but he's really He's definitely a
Speaker 1: He's spending all his political capital on this because if
Speaker 1: it doesn't work, he'll go down in history as a
Speaker 1: ginormous failure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And he's spending the capital with the Senate and the
Speaker 1: House and the voter.
Speaker 4: And he didn't have to because he's riding high on
Speaker 4: all those things he ran on. He could have just
Speaker 4: stuck that out and tried to ride out four years
Speaker 4: and have been fine historically.
Speaker 2: So I do not think this is a safe play
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would agree. Coming up in moments, the
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Speaker 1: me try that again. Welcome to woke watch. The battle
Speaker 1: is just begun.
Speaker 2: Everything woke turns to ship. You know what woke means.
Speaker 7: It means you're a loser.
Speaker 1: Now it means you're a postmodernist Neil Marxist. Actually, a
Speaker 1: couple of stories worth bringing to your attention. There are
Speaker 1: two California bills to protect women's sports that are gonna
Speaker 1: go before.
Speaker 2: A committee here tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And we have sources within the Capitol who are going
Speaker 1: to bring us the reality of what happens. The supermajority
Speaker 1: in cal Unicornia is unlikely to support the bills, despite
Speaker 1: Governor Newsom's recent comments tempe Charlie Kirk is tepit his
Speaker 1: hell comments. The chair of the hearing is also the
Speaker 1: head of the LGBTQ plus minus over the power of
Speaker 1: seven caucus.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's gonna go nowhere.
Speaker 1: Dudes will still beat the hell out of girls on
Speaker 1: the sports fields in California.
Speaker 2: How is this?
Speaker 1: I don't understand the politics of this. Its ideological insanity.
Speaker 1: It's blended them to everything and perhaps even worse. Although
Speaker 1: this already exists in California, Colorado is ramming through take
Speaker 1: your kids away and force your speech bill today. This
Speaker 1: bill will define misgendering as child abuse, wow, and coercive
Speaker 1: ConTroll of a child, bullying parents.
Speaker 4: My kid, My eight year old kid comes to me
Speaker 4: and says, you got to call me her and if
Speaker 4: I don't, Yes, it's the same as if I beat.
Speaker 2: Her, it's child abuse.
Speaker 1: Yes, So you either transition your child or you risk
Speaker 1: losing them. It will protect any parent who brings a
Speaker 1: child to Colorado for mutilation, negating all other state laws
Speaker 1: and court orders, just like cal Unicornia did becoming a
Speaker 1: transgender cruel experiment sanctuary stake. God help you if you
Speaker 1: have a spouse or an ex husband or wife who
Speaker 1: decides to do that.
Speaker 2: Who's fallen for the walk mind virus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll force all schools to comply with transitioning children,
Speaker 1: even explicitly attacking charter schools. And eliminating any gender dress code.
Speaker 1: It defines misgendering and dead naming. If you call your
Speaker 1: son Jim Jim after he's announced yesterday he's Jenny, it
Speaker 1: will be his discrimination for all Colorado businesses, which is
Speaker 1: essentially all citizens rights, erin for parental rights. This is
Speaker 1: the most radical bill I've ever seen anywhere, presented by
Speaker 1: the folks and sponsored by an appointed sex change extremist.
Speaker 2: That's a man. What a tough situation.
Speaker 1: I've got a good friend who's he and his wife
Speaker 1: their former daughter is now a dude, and they have
Speaker 1: gotten on board with it because he is in their
Speaker 1: mid twenties and you know, you want to have a
Speaker 1: relationship and you love them and blah blah blah, and what.
Speaker 2: Do you do? Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 1: Representative Jarvis Caldwell of Colorado said, this bill just got
Speaker 1: introduced late Friday evening. This is yesterday, said this, and
Speaker 1: we found out today it's scheduled for Judiciary Committee tomorrow,
Speaker 1: which is today. And it's radical. No time to a have,
Speaker 1: no time to coordinate testimony, no time to talk with
Speaker 1: stakeholders or constituents. And this is from the side of
Speaker 1: the aisle. That's constantly howling about democracy. What a kraka crap.
Speaker 1: Moving along, the organization overseeing museums celebrating English playwright William
Speaker 1: Shakespeare's life is reportedly willing working to decolonize his legacy
Speaker 1: in the name of battling white supremacy.
Speaker 4: Wow, this is where Western civilization really breaks down. You
Speaker 4: take maybe the greatest writer in the history of writing,
Speaker 4: and you're going to.
Speaker 2: Ruin it.
Speaker 4: For lack of a better word, You're you're gonna take
Speaker 4: it out of Western civilization.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: You're going to crush it and make it so infamous
Speaker 1: nobody teaches it anymore because.
Speaker 2: He was white. That's right. More or less already has.
Speaker 1: The Telegraph reported that the Shakespeare's Birthplace Trust, a British nonprofit,
Speaker 1: is working toward quote unquote decolonizing its collection of Shakespeare
Speaker 1: related artifacts to create a more inclusive museum experience.
Speaker 2: It's been going on for years.
Speaker 4: Harold Bloom is that the name of the Yale professor
Speaker 4: who's the biggest Shakespeare expert in America written all these books.
Speaker 4: I've read several of them, and he said years ago,
Speaker 4: because I was watching an old Charlie Rose.
Speaker 2: I think this was in the late nineties, he.
Speaker 4: Said, nobody's teaching Shakespeare anywhere in the United States now,
Speaker 4: where it's not about how unrepresented women are in this play,
Speaker 4: or you know, slavery is blah blah blah. Nobody's just
Speaker 4: flat out teaching it anymore.
Speaker 7: So.
Speaker 1: Now Shakespeare, despite being born in fifteen sixty four and
Speaker 1: largely writing plays that took place in Western Europe, is
Speaker 1: being scrutinized for his alleged impact on colonialism. The process
Speaker 1: of decolonializing Shakespeare's work reportedly includes researching quote, the continued
Speaker 1: impact of colonialism on world history and the ways in
Speaker 1: which quote Shakespeare's work has played a part in this.
Speaker 1: This is a this is a successful civilization actually destroying itself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is horrifying.
Speaker 1: Concerns have been raised that celebration of Shakespeare enables white
Speaker 1: supremacy right. The Trust also warned that some items in
Speaker 1: the collections and archives relating to the iconic sixteenth century
Speaker 1: playwright may contain quote, language or depictions that are racist, sexist, homophobic,
Speaker 1: or otherwise harmful.
Speaker 4: You could add my high school son to the list
Speaker 4: of people who would be perfectly fine with Shakespeare going away,
Speaker 4: as he's in the middle of his Romeo and Juliet
Speaker 4: course in English and hating it. It's it takes a
Speaker 4: little bit of work, yes, And then I wanted to
Speaker 4: get to this. This is such a classic example of
Speaker 4: how the permanent bureaucracy, as I call it, or maybe
Speaker 4: you call it the deep state, I think it's two
Speaker 4: spy novelly sounding.
Speaker 1: Perverts governance. This is a story from Georgia. The state's
Speaker 1: Department of Community Health asked in twenty fifteen to determine
Speaker 1: which insurance providers would administer medicaid to millions of people
Speaker 1: across the state. So it's a multi billion dollar contract
Speaker 1: for who's gonna administer dental coverage, and senior staffers hijack
Speaker 1: the process to in sort a question related to trans
Speaker 1: transgender children, according to internal documents, so it was a
Speaker 1: questionnaire of these companies, how do you handle this, how
Speaker 1: do you handle that? What's your priority? Here, here's a
Speaker 1: case study for you, how would you handle that? And again,
Speaker 1: these senior staffers inserted, and more or less the last minute,
Speaker 1: a question about a fourteen year old transgender, white female
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, if she came in to get a
Speaker 1: cavity filled how would you handle it? And they also
Speaker 1: apportioned a disproportionate number of points to the point system
Speaker 1: on how you answered that question. So unless you as
Speaker 1: a company essentially wrote well, because that's a perfectly legitimate
Speaker 1: thing and transgenderism Israel and the dentist would refer her
Speaker 1: him to immediately to a gender counseling office, which would
Speaker 1: offer them hormones and transition surgery if desired. That's what
Speaker 1: we would do the minute we met them. If you
Speaker 1: didn't answer like that, you were out of a multi
Speaker 1: billion dollar bid, that's DEI, that's Georgia. In spite of
Speaker 1: Brian Camp, Brian Kemp being anti all that stuff his
Speaker 1: bureaucracy did.
Speaker 2: It's rough. Yep.
Speaker 1: Oh, we haven't gotten to Kid Rock in the Oval
Speaker 1: office yesterday and what that was all about. It's an
Speaker 1: interesting topic actually, and the fact that Kid Rock broke
Speaker 1: her to deal between Trump and Bill Maher.
Speaker 4: So Trump is going to go talk to Bill Maher
Speaker 4: and do an interview. Oh wow, because Kid Rock's friends
Speaker 4: with both of them and put that together.
Speaker 2: And we ought to talk about the ticket broker thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Trump and Kid Rock announced because it's really interesting.
Speaker 1: So an additional perspective on a question we've asked, many,
Speaker 1: many times, what's it going to take for the Blue
Speaker 1: States of America the voters to finally understand that the
Speaker 1: terrible policies that have been enacted and ruined their states
Speaker 1: are at fault for their states being ruined and make
Speaker 1: a change politically speaking, to discuss. We've invited John phillips On.
Speaker 1: John is a California native. He's a longtime radio personality
Speaker 1: on the mighty seven to ninety KABC in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: our belived affiliate, and starting today on a ten KSFO
Speaker 1: in the San Francisco Bay Area, columnists for the Orange
Speaker 1: County Register.
Speaker 2: Among other things, John always a pleasure. How are you?
Speaker 7: I'm great? And by the way, I can't wait to
Speaker 7: hear the Kid Rock segment because I don't know if
Speaker 7: you've seen how he's been dressing lately. Yeah, but it
Speaker 7: looks like Rod rot on the fourth of July.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's quite the outfit to wear to the
Speaker 1: Oval office. He makes Don King look reserved. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: really amazing. So John, to the operative question here, why
Speaker 1: have and you're, you know, most expert in the ways
Speaker 1: of California, But why have the voters of California not
Speaker 1: risen up in a recognizable way yet and said, hey,
Speaker 1: are states gone to hell?
Speaker 2: We got to change course.
Speaker 7: Well, as an angel fan, I feel like i have
Speaker 7: an authority on this subject because I'm familiar with this
Speaker 7: and disappointment. But what's going on right now in California
Speaker 7: and in many of the blue states with one party
Speaker 7: rule is that it is possible to push too far.
Speaker 7: And that's exactly what the Democrats have been doing here
Speaker 7: in California. And it doesn't matter what subject you talk about,
Speaker 7: whether it's crime or homelessness, or the budget or insurance
Speaker 7: fill in the blank. They have dropped the ball and
Speaker 7: they have turned the Golden State, the most beautiful state
Speaker 7: in the Union, into a place that fundamentally doesn't work.
Speaker 7: And what you've seen in the last election is you
Speaker 7: saw the seeds of discontent being planted. California moved dramatically
Speaker 7: to the right from where they were. In the last
Speaker 7: presidential election, Californians voted for Proposition thirty six, which would
Speaker 7: then start to crack down on criminals and repeal Prop
Speaker 7: forty seven, which was a proposition that was a very
Speaker 7: soft on crime initiative. And you saw many of the
Speaker 7: sorosdas like George Gascon and Pamela Price get booted from office.
Speaker 7: So there is hope, and there is light at the
Speaker 7: end of the tunnel. And for the first time, that
Speaker 7: light at the end of the tunnel is not a train.
Speaker 7: Kevin right at us.
Speaker 4: Well, we've been on in San Francisco for twenty two years.
Speaker 4: And the fact that they now have decided, you know,
Speaker 4: that's enough and you choose a mayor who's going to
Speaker 4: do something about the street people. I mean, that's a
Speaker 4: step in the right direction.
Speaker 7: Sure, And it's not just San Francisco. Look across the
Speaker 7: Bay in Oakland where the DA Pamela Price was booted
Speaker 7: out of office by voters, and so was the mayor
Speaker 7: Shang Tao, who is also right now being investigated by
Speaker 7: the FBI and looking at potentially north of ninety years
Speaker 7: in prison. If they can get with the program. In
Speaker 7: Oakland and San Francisco, the state is salvagable.
Speaker 1: At least the mayor had an excuse for being soft
Speaker 1: on crime. She's a criminal. I meant it's a conflict
Speaker 1: of interest, you know, John, maybe the tangential question, because
Speaker 1: your examples are all great and they're absolutely accurate, but
Speaker 1: they're all either one Democrat over another or something like
Speaker 1: a proposition to say proposition which isn't explicitly partisan. So
Speaker 1: here's the question, how did and I'm sorry one more aside,
Speaker 1: then I'll actually ask the damn question. When we moved
Speaker 1: to California nineteen ninety six, Pete Wilson was in the middle,
Speaker 1: I believe his second term, very purple state, very reasonable governance,
Speaker 1: and somehow the Republican brand just went to hell.
Speaker 2: Your opinion on, you know, briefly.
Speaker 1: How it got there, but arnold side, is there any right,
Speaker 1: is there any rehabilitating it?
Speaker 7: And how well, if you pay attention to the universities,
Speaker 7: what they would say it was all Proposition one eighty seven.
Speaker 7: I don't buy that. But I think happened is that
Speaker 7: the Cold War ended.
Speaker 1: Just for folks that don't understand, that was the prop
Speaker 1: that said no services for illegals, which passed with a
Speaker 1: strong majority, but then all of a sudden became anathema.
Speaker 2: Anyway back to you, John.
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, that was Trump before Trump. But I think
Speaker 7: the greater issue, the greater problem for Republicans in California,
Speaker 7: at least, was the end of the Cold War, because
Speaker 7: you had all of the military bases shut down or
Speaker 7: many of them shut down. So guys with crew cuts
Speaker 7: and degrees in engineering and metals on their chest stopped
Speaker 7: moving to the state. The aerospace industry essentially moved out
Speaker 7: of California and we were replaced by the tech industry.
Speaker 7: And the tech industry attracts people who want to live
Speaker 7: in coastal communities. They're socially liberal, they have graduate degrees,
Speaker 7: and they end up voting for people like Nancy Pelosi
Speaker 7: and Gavin Newsom and those types of Democrats. But what
Speaker 7: you're starting to see right now, because you're right that
Speaker 7: the examples I gave were individual issues or races, but
Speaker 7: look at voter registration numbers in California today compared to
Speaker 7: where they were a couple of years ago. There have
Speaker 7: been dramatic moves to the right in cities like Glendale,
Speaker 7: cities in eastern Los Angeles County. Beverly Hills is now
Speaker 7: a majority Republican city. And you're also seeing it in
Speaker 7: those agricultural areas in the central part of the state,
Speaker 7: Imperial County, where you have a lot of Latino voters
Speaker 7: who are really not happy with what they're getting from Sacramento.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to alienate Latinos.
Speaker 1: Explain that if little Wan comes back and says he's
Speaker 1: now Janita, you have to accept it, or we're taking
Speaker 1: your son away from you.
Speaker 2: Good lord.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean those subjects are very offensive to a
Speaker 7: lot of people. And also don't discount the damage that
Speaker 7: the COVID nineteen shutdowns did to a lot of these people.
Speaker 2: Because if you have a kid.
Speaker 7: In school and all of a sudden they went from
Speaker 7: going to school five days a week to being stuck
Speaker 7: inside their bedroom playing video games twenty four to seven,
Speaker 7: that's like a crash course in how to become an
Speaker 7: active shooter. Those parents are furious. If you own a
Speaker 7: small business and your small business was shut down, well,
Speaker 7: Seth Bezos was allowed to operate, you're furious at what
Speaker 7: Sacramento did, and they have long memories.
Speaker 2: Yeah. John Phillips is on the line. John, I always
Speaker 2: point out.
Speaker 1: That the public employee unions have enormous power and enormous numbers,
Speaker 1: especially when they're joined by the nurses and a couple
Speaker 1: of their notable private sector unions. That's always going to
Speaker 1: be a force to be reckoned with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 7: But right now, what you're seeing when you have a
Speaker 7: budget crisis, which is what California has, is choices have
Speaker 7: to be made. Are you going to stick with the
Speaker 7: bullet train or are you going to stick with public
Speaker 7: employees in some other sector? And right now there are
Speaker 7: a finite amount of resources and they're all battling for it.
Speaker 7: You're going to have winners and you're going to have losers,
Speaker 7: but not everyone is going to win. And if you're
Speaker 7: the team that's in charge, which in this one party state,
Speaker 7: the Democrats are, you're going to have to upset a
Speaker 7: lot of your friends. And when you start to upset
Speaker 7: them over and over and over again, they're going to
Speaker 7: start looking elsewhere.
Speaker 1: John Phillips is an Orange County Register columnist also on
Speaker 1: mighty KBC in LA and KSFO from noon to three Pacific.
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to talk to John. Good luck with
Speaker 1: the new show, and let's stay in touch, all right,
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me on our pleasure.
Speaker 2: That was interesting.
Speaker 4: I never heard anybody make that point about the Cold
Speaker 4: War ending and the bases shutting down, and then you
Speaker 4: know the tech business being big. It's also interesting that
Speaker 4: the tech world as lefty as it is with Google
Speaker 4: and Apple and everything. The biggest dog of all is
Speaker 4: Elon Musk and he is the poster child for being
Speaker 4: a Trump Nazi. Yeah yeah, and it's interesting. Demographics are
Speaker 4: so incredibly important.
Speaker 1: I remember when because because you have policy shifting, meanwhile
Speaker 1: you have demographic groups shifting in their ideology and the
Speaker 1: parties shifting as well. So you we have a fairly reasonable,
Speaker 1: fairly purple Democratic Party in the nineties, for instance, become
Speaker 1: the anti George Bush kind of fever pitch because the
Speaker 1: Iraq War hurt the Republican brand in California pretty badly.
Speaker 1: But then you have the Democrats moving toward crime is fine,
Speaker 1: the whole postmodern woke thing, you know, white supremacy, which
Speaker 1: includes Hispanic people unless they're down with again juan coming
Speaker 1: home as Juanita. And you're seeing a transition. But it
Speaker 1: takes a long damn time, especially when there are trillions
Speaker 1: of dollars at stake, and the people controlling them are
Speaker 1: not honest dealers friends. They are hedging their bets every
Speaker 1: way they can. The Iraq War started in March of three,
Speaker 1: which is when we started in San Francisco, So it
Speaker 1: has been twenty two years ago. As of last month, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mentioned that Kid Rock broke he to deal between
Speaker 1: and Bill Maher. Trump said he is reluctantly agreeing to this,
Speaker 1: but because he respects Kid Rock, he'll do it.
Speaker 2: And he said it might be fun or it might not.
Speaker 1: That could be quite the news making conversation between mar
Speaker 1: and Trump. Yeah, I'm trying to imagine how it would go,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's gonna be wild.
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 4: But why was Kid Rock in the Oval office? Pretty interesting?
Speaker 4: And this is not politics? Really, if you ever go
Speaker 4: to concerts or games, you care about this among other
Speaker 4: things on the ways, stay here.
Speaker 2: I forgot about this. Oh was so good.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, if we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about Kid Rock, who was in the Oval office just
Speaker 1: to dressed like he's the.
Speaker 2: MC of a circus.
Speaker 1: If you Kid Rock really hit the national scene at
Speaker 1: was it Woodstock Too or Lollapo one of those big
Speaker 1: outdoor concerts.
Speaker 2: He came out and just killed it.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you ever watch that YouTube video of that,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's the energy.
Speaker 2: Coming off of that when he does my name is Kid,
Speaker 2: the midget comes out and the crowd just goes.
Speaker 1: Berzerk I'm sorry, my headphones are weird, did you say,
Speaker 1: and the midget comes out yes. But anyway, he had
Speaker 1: a dwarf hype man there for a cup of coffee.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I should say for a forty that
Speaker 1: was something.
Speaker 4: But uh, if you if you watch that, or you
Speaker 4: were watching it at the time, you wouldn't have thought.
Speaker 4: You know, someday he'll be standing in the Oval Office
Speaker 4: with the President of the United States. Anyway, he was yesterday,
Speaker 4: and uh, this is part of what they were discussing.
Speaker 2: I want the.
Speaker 7: Fans have a fair ticket price to be able to go.
Speaker 2: We can enjoy it more shows.
Speaker 7: I know people that can only they decide on a
Speaker 7: family vacation or going to their favorite concert once a year,
Speaker 7: rather than you know, our parents to go see multiple
Speaker 7: shows so you can afford them back in their day.
Speaker 1: So Kid Rock goes on to say, and he just
Speaker 1: said what a lot of musicians have said.
Speaker 4: You know, I want to low well, I want to
Speaker 4: lower my prices for certain people or whatever. But it
Speaker 4: doesn't do any good if I lower my prices. The
Speaker 4: third market people, stub hub and all those other companies,
Speaker 4: they buy them and sell them and make the profit
Speaker 4: and they get the money and I don't. So I
Speaker 4: haven't accomplished anything. I didn't give my fans a break,
Speaker 4: and I don't get the money.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So.
Speaker 1: The executive order aimed at cracking down a ticket price
Speaker 1: gouging and other exploited practices by middlemen like ticket brokers,
Speaker 1: although I actually know a ticket broker. And here's the
Speaker 1: part he would emphasize. The order directs the Federal Trade
Speaker 1: Commission to more rigorously enforce existing law governing the use
Speaker 1: of bots that help scalper scoop up hot tickets, including
Speaker 1: by issuing fines.
Speaker 2: All of us have wondered this our whole lives.
Speaker 4: Really if you were you know, back in the day,
Speaker 4: long before the internet or whatever, but if some group
Speaker 4: was coming to town, it's like, oh, I want to
Speaker 4: be able to go to this concert, and you know
Speaker 4: what time the tickets go on sale, and you got
Speaker 4: your old rotary phone and you're ready to call it.
Speaker 2: All the tickets are gone before you could gone. How
Speaker 2: did that work? Right? Yeah? I know, And it's interesting.
Speaker 1: It's multifascinating because I know, like the non bot use
Speaker 1: it because that's already illegal. And my friend al Anonymous
Speaker 1: said they already, don't enforce the bot laws on the books,
Speaker 1: and he's fired all the horse catchers already, and then
Speaker 1: he emailed the response from an association. But the way
Speaker 1: it used to work, or was supposed to work, was
Speaker 1: that a lot of the ticket brokers have contracts with
Speaker 1: the big concert companies that it's essentially it's like buying corn.
Speaker 2: Futures or cattle futures.
Speaker 1: They say, I'll buy seventy five tickets to every single show,
Speaker 1: and some of them will be in high demand and
Speaker 1: I'll make a lot of money. Some of them will
Speaker 1: not be and I will lose money, but I will
Speaker 1: be your client and I will buy tickets to X
Speaker 1: number shows. But the amateurs now because bots are so
Speaker 1: easy to design. I could no more design a bot
Speaker 1: than build a car with my own hands, but they're
Speaker 1: so easy to design. Every Tom, Dick and Harry who
Speaker 1: has any computer knowledge is now doing it on an
Speaker 1: ad hoc basis, and so that's the real problem. And
Speaker 1: then they put them on the resale market and it's
Speaker 1: just everybody is snatching up tickets.
Speaker 4: Well, if you're the music artist, though, even aside from
Speaker 4: the bot thing, so is your only hope to just
Speaker 4: charge as much as you think you can and make
Speaker 4: the maximum profit. I mean, there's no point in trying
Speaker 4: to keep your tickets at a price where like your
Speaker 4: kid rock or a lot of people Taylor Swift, do
Speaker 4: you want to make it sure an average family of
Speaker 4: four can come to your concert?
Speaker 2: Right, it's just impossible. Well, yeah, and it looks terrible.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of artists, singers, entertainers are really
Speaker 1: sensitive to not looking like they're gouging their fans because
Speaker 1: there's an emotional relationship there that a bot certainly doesn't
Speaker 1: have with their fans.
Speaker 2: They couldn't give a crap.
Speaker 4: Well, I understand, uh, free market capitalism, supply demand, all
Speaker 4: that sort of stuff, But is there any other is there?
Speaker 4: Why doesn't this happen in other just because there's not
Speaker 4: enough demand, it doesn't happen in any other segment of society.
Speaker 2: That's a great question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the supply and demand curves are skewed, especially for
Speaker 1: the really popular artists, because you can't you can only
Speaker 1: play certain number of shows or it'd kill you as
Speaker 1: a performer. And so you're playing two nights in Omaha period,
Speaker 1: then moving on down the road.
Speaker 2: Wow, so you've got to.
Speaker 4: Keep your prices at a certain level so you don't
Speaker 4: look like a jerk to your fans. But some third
Speaker 4: party makes the money and there's nothing you can do
Speaker 4: about it, right, Huh.
Speaker 1: Well, that's obviously no good. I mean, that's that's just
Speaker 1: it's it's unfair, and it's you.
Speaker 4: Know, as a fan, if I'm gonna have to pay
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty bucks for a ticket, I would
Speaker 4: rather the money goes to my musician that I really
Speaker 4: like and care about their music than some ticket company.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Interestingly, the National Association of Ticket Brokers put out
Speaker 1: the following statement. We applaud President Trump for undertaking an
Speaker 1: effort to enforce the Federal Bots Act and working to
Speaker 1: root out bad players in the system, even though bots
Speaker 1: are not the main reason why consumers experience frustration when
Speaker 1: trying to buy tickets. Uh. When tickets do go on sale,
Speaker 1: people should not be competing with ticket hoarding software to
Speaker 1: make a purchase. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Is this going to make much different in reality for
Speaker 4: ticket buyers. It'll make a difference for like some of
Speaker 4: these companies, but is it gonna make any difference to me?
Speaker 4: I'm not sure it is because again, the same problem
Speaker 4: more or less seemed to exist before modern technology.
Speaker 1: Right and and again according to my friend in the business,
Speaker 1: that they're not they don't enforce the laws.
Speaker 2: Now, it's like gun laws. Let's pass another gun law.
Speaker 4: Kid Rock said, like he's he said, I'm friends with
Speaker 4: the CEO of Ticketmaster and I'm meeting with him today
Speaker 4: over this. So it's not like he's angry at them
Speaker 4: or trying to screw them or whatever. Right, he actually said,
Speaker 4: we're trying to come up with the way that everybody
Speaker 4: makes money that's fair.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and fair enough. And I'm completely agnostic on
Speaker 1: this topic. By the way, I'm not defending anybody in particular.
Speaker 1: It's just one of the aspects of DOGE that we
Speaker 1: need to work through, and I'm willing to work through.
Speaker 1: It is as my buddy put it, they've fired all
Speaker 1: the horse catchers.
Speaker 2: There's a funny way to put it.
Speaker 1: And we'll have to see because a lot of the
Speaker 1: legitimate law enforcement functions of the federal government take people
Speaker 1: and lots of people consumer protection stuff, for instance, and
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how it shakes out.
Speaker 2: In the raw politics of it.
Speaker 4: This is another example of Trump understanding real issues for
Speaker 4: real people that they care about, and looking like he's
Speaker 4: trying to do something for them.
Speaker 1: And whether he will actually be effective in that or
Speaker 1: just look like it. I don't know, but I do
Speaker 1: want kid rock suit obviously tailored and if you haven't
Speaker 1: seen it, we'll post pictures in a video at Armstrong
Speaker 1: and Giddy dot com. Obviously, I'll have to have it
Speaker 1: tailored for me. I'm slightly more full figured than mister Rock.
Speaker 2: You're the same age.
Speaker 1: Is almost a qualifies for medicare Rock at this point
Speaker 1: close he looks a little rough too.
Speaker 2: I look far more youthful
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty