1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jettie and now he Armstrong and Jetty. 4 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 3: The President getting ready to announce tariffs on at least, 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: as he puts it, basically every country on Earth, every 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 3: country that has import duties on US goods that starts Wednesday. 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: Then on Thursday. 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 3: In addition to the existing tariffs on aluminium steel, President 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 3: Trump will impose a whopping twenty five percent tariff on 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: all foreign made cars and auto parts right. 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 4: Which, as we mentioned, polls show people expect prices to 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 4: go up short term in about half the country things 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 4: they're going to stay up long term. But here's someone 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,319 Speaker 4: on Trump's site explaining why this is a good long 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 4: term plan. 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 5: The President has a high threshold for pain because these 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 5: tear people. 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: Well, but also for his own political pay. 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 5: I mean, he's taking a long term approach, which is 20 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 5: actually kind of refreshing in American politics now. Whether he's 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 5: right or wrong, but he's doing two things that are 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 5: really really unusual in Washington. He's taking a long term view, 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 5: and he's not listening to the critics. 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 4: And now here's Stephen Miller, who would get more traction 25 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,639 Speaker 4: with more people if he didn't look like an evil villain. 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 4: Since he's portrayed as an evil villain by the Left, 27 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 4: he just happens to look like one from a movie. 28 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 6: President Trump is resetting the entire global market by saying, 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 6: number one, you can't steal our jobs. Number two, if 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 6: you want to get preferential treatment, you have to put 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 6: your factory inside the United States. You want to sell 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 6: it to Americans on a preferential basis. 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: Then you have to make it here. 34 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 6: And if you do, you'll get low taxes, low regulations, 35 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 6: and cheap energy. But if you sell it to us 36 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 6: from overseas, then yes, you will pay a tariff. 37 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: So the not even pushback, but question that a lot 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 4: one of us have, I think, is so, how is 39 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 4: so is General Motors going to build more plants in 40 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 4: the night? How long does it take to build a 41 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: car plant? They're going to build a plant in the 42 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 4: next three years, even though the next president might do 43 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 4: away with these, so you could keep. 44 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: Building them in Mexico or wherever. 45 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, there's a reasonable likelihood of that. I mean, 46 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: it would be bad, but yeah, I was going to 47 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: bring up the fact that the Trump administration has done 48 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: fabulous things so far that have been cruelly under reported 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: at deregulation, reducing the regulatory weight on American businesses and 50 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: make it easier to build factories and stuff like that. 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: But it's still enormous undertaking. 52 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it takes years, months and many months, if 53 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: not several years of planning before you break ground. 54 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 4: Well, and but you'd also have the reality of So 55 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 4: I'm General Motors and I said, Okay, this is the 56 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 4: new world we live in. We're going to build a 57 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: plant in Indiana, and we're going to make our our 58 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: Chevy trucks one hundred percent here to avoid the tariffs. 59 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: And you're editor, say, Ford. 60 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 4: Sticks it out somehow, and then next administration, when the 61 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 4: tariffs go away, your competitor can make the truck so 62 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 4: much cheaper right wherever they're making them. 63 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, build their profit. 64 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: And loss projections on both plans, and figure out, all right, 65 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: how do we lose the least money. 66 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: Ride it out. 67 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna get kicked in the butt for the next 68 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: three and a half years, We're gonna pay tariffs, gonna 69 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: hurt our sales. But if we conform, and then the 70 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: laws change again, we would lose you know, ginormous amounts 71 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: of money and have to rebuild our plant in Mexico 72 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: or whatever. 73 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 74 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: Long, And that's the interesting thing about Trump, and it 75 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: bothers me, although I'm waiting to see how this all 76 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: shakes out, because often, you know, Trump throws so many 77 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: headfakes out there you don't know where he's actually going, 78 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: which is like completely unprecedented because presidents don't. 79 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: Want to do that. 80 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: They don't want to spook the markets, they don't want 81 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: to freak out big American businesses. And so it's wild 82 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: that he's this cavalier about causing you know, shock in 83 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: horror and or pearl clutching. If it just ends up 84 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: with being a reordering of the post WW two trade 85 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: norms where of course we did charge us big tariffs 86 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: because we're in economic colossus. We won't charge you because 87 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: you got to get back on your feet. We understand 88 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: that completely. If that's going to go away through this, 89 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: great it's fabulous. 90 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: So here is a question rather than a statement. 91 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 4: I have said this before, but I've never read this anywhere, 92 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: and I never hear anybody bring this up. So One 93 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 4: of the things you regularly hear people say is, well, 94 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 4: what's an American car company even mean anymore? Because I 95 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: bought a Toyota truck that's built in Indiana. But and 96 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 4: this is my question, Now, maybe there's something I'm missing here. 97 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 4: If Ford gets in trouble, GM gets in trouble, Chrysler 98 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,679 Speaker 4: gets in trouble, it becomes a national crisis. The federal 99 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 4: government steps in bails them out because we can't have 100 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 4: these giant companies fail. That's never happened with Toyota or Volkswagen, 101 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 4: these foreign companies. So obviously we're not It's not our 102 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 4: job to make sure Toyota do is okay, but it 103 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 4: is our job as a nation to make sure. 104 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: GM stays in business. 105 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 4: So then what sense is a Toyota made Indiana good 106 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 4: for America? 107 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: I don't get that. 108 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: If I mean, the jobs at that plant are nice, 109 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: but it's still a foreign company. 110 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they pay all. 111 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Sorts of taxes, and you know, it generates a tremendous 112 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: amount of revenue for the US. But yeah, the profits 113 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: end up in a foreign bank unless they keep it 114 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: in a US bank. 115 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: So what does that even mean? 116 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: Well, we obviously I've never heard anybody care if Toyota 117 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: is struggling right in the United States, But we do 118 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: care if GM is struggling. 119 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: Right you know. 120 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's a complicated question and I'm not really 121 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: qualified to answer it. 122 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: It has to do it. I just want to make 123 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: this email or text. 124 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: Why it seems to me to put a lie to 125 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: the what's what's an American car? 126 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: Anyway? This Toyota's made Indiana? Okay? 127 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: Well, like I just said, nobody cares if Toyota does 128 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: well or not as a company right right, and their 129 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 1: stock is listed I don't know where the stock is listed. 130 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 2: For instance. 131 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking if I mean, if you have thousands 132 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: and thousands of employees and you're paying zillions of dollars 133 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: in property tax, you probably have incentives, but uh, property 134 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: tax and sales tax, income taxes, payroll taxes, sales taxes 135 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: at the point of sale, you know, just all of 136 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: that stuff, and then your profits end up in a 137 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: Japanese added Japanese headquarters, except you're almost certainly investing them 138 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: in the American stock market. But if you remember, like 139 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: during the Obama administration, we had to bail out GM 140 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: to the tune of tens or hundreds of billions of dollars. 141 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: It was a big deal, and it was like a 142 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: you know, whipped up national mood that we've got to 143 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: have this, We've got to have them American car companies succeed. 144 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: How does that fit in with the whole thing. Yeah, 145 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 146 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 4: Toyota, and so I've never understood it, and I never 147 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 4: hear anybody bring it up. 148 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's seek out a guest who's who's really 149 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: good at that sort of thing. Oh, what was the 150 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: other thing I was going to bring up? Was kind 151 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: of related, popped out of my head. Well, I'll pop 152 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: back in eventually. I love that question. It's really interesting. 153 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: Oh. 154 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: I was going to bring up the US Steel thing, 155 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: which is was so silly because if US Steel was 156 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: named Jones Steel, nobody had given a crap. 157 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 4: I honestly believe this. Most people, like ninety percent of people, 158 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 4: when they hear US Steel, I think it's the United 159 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 4: States Steel industry. That's what they think they're hearing about. Really, yes, 160 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: as opposed to that's the name of the company. It 161 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 4: could be Bob Steele, like you just said, it's just 162 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: US Steel. Yeah, huh So they're willing to do anything 163 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 4: to protect us steel. 164 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: I think let me tip my cap very briefly to 165 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: how annoying Jake Tapper was in that clip we played 166 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: coming back. Donald Trump is willing to endure some pain 167 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: other people's pain, right, Jake, you're just your're That's not 168 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: fair because Trump is really laying it on the line 169 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: here for long term gain for the country, even if 170 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: you think he's wrong, but he's really He's definitely a 171 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: He's spending all his political capital on this because if 172 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't work, he'll go down in history as a 173 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: ginormous failure. 174 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 175 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: And he's spending the capital with the Senate and the 176 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: House and the voter. 177 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 4: And he didn't have to because he's riding high on 178 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 4: all those things he ran on. He could have just 179 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 4: stuck that out and tried to ride out four years 180 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 4: and have been fine historically. 181 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: So I do not think this is a safe play 182 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: at all. 183 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would agree. Coming up in moments, the 184 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: battle is far from over. Woke watch our new feature 185 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: walk Isn't Dead, and you get, oh no, Jack, you 186 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: gotta stay and watch. He's the name who watch and 187 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: you got everything turns to that's a good point. 188 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: You gotta shout it like that too. 189 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: Tweeted that out the other day, So stay with us. 190 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: Say we haven't touched on the whole arrushed in illegals 191 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: and booting them out story that continues to Royal DC 192 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: maybe a little later. But first, welcome to woke watch. 193 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: The battle is far from over all. Right that, let 194 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: me try that again. Welcome to woke watch. The battle 195 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: is just begun. 196 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 2: Everything woke turns to ship. You know what woke means. 197 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 7: It means you're a loser. 198 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: Now it means you're a postmodernist Neil Marxist. Actually, a 199 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: couple of stories worth bringing to your attention. There are 200 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: two California bills to protect women's sports that are gonna 201 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: go before. 202 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: A committee here tomorrow. 203 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: And we have sources within the Capitol who are going 204 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: to bring us the reality of what happens. The supermajority 205 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: in cal Unicornia is unlikely to support the bills, despite 206 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: Governor Newsom's recent comments tempe Charlie Kirk is tepit his 207 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: hell comments. The chair of the hearing is also the 208 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: head of the LGBTQ plus minus over the power of 209 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: seven caucus. 210 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's gonna go nowhere. 211 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: Dudes will still beat the hell out of girls on 212 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: the sports fields in California. 213 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: How is this? 214 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: I don't understand the politics of this. Its ideological insanity. 215 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: It's blended them to everything and perhaps even worse. Although 216 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: this already exists in California, Colorado is ramming through take 217 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: your kids away and force your speech bill today. This 218 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: bill will define misgendering as child abuse, wow, and coercive 219 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: ConTroll of a child, bullying parents. 220 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 4: My kid, My eight year old kid comes to me 221 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: and says, you got to call me her and if 222 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 4: I don't, Yes, it's the same as if I beat. 223 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: Her, it's child abuse. 224 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: Yes, So you either transition your child or you risk 225 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: losing them. It will protect any parent who brings a 226 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: child to Colorado for mutilation, negating all other state laws 227 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: and court orders, just like cal Unicornia did becoming a 228 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: transgender cruel experiment sanctuary stake. God help you if you 229 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: have a spouse or an ex husband or wife who 230 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: decides to do that. 231 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: Who's fallen for the walk mind virus. 232 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll force all schools to comply with transitioning children, 233 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: even explicitly attacking charter schools. And eliminating any gender dress code. 234 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: It defines misgendering and dead naming. If you call your 235 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: son Jim Jim after he's announced yesterday he's Jenny, it 236 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: will be his discrimination for all Colorado businesses, which is 237 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: essentially all citizens rights, erin for parental rights. This is 238 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: the most radical bill I've ever seen anywhere, presented by 239 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: the folks and sponsored by an appointed sex change extremist. 240 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: That's a man. What a tough situation. 241 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: I've got a good friend who's he and his wife 242 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: their former daughter is now a dude, and they have 243 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: gotten on board with it because he is in their 244 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: mid twenties and you know, you want to have a 245 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: relationship and you love them and blah blah blah, and what. 246 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 2: Do you do? Yeah, I understand. 247 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: Representative Jarvis Caldwell of Colorado said, this bill just got 248 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: introduced late Friday evening. This is yesterday, said this, and 249 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: we found out today it's scheduled for Judiciary Committee tomorrow, 250 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: which is today. And it's radical. No time to a have, 251 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: no time to coordinate testimony, no time to talk with 252 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: stakeholders or constituents. And this is from the side of 253 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: the aisle. That's constantly howling about democracy. What a kraka crap. 254 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: Moving along, the organization overseeing museums celebrating English playwright William 255 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:22,479 Speaker 1: Shakespeare's life is reportedly willing working to decolonize his legacy 256 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: in the name of battling white supremacy. 257 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 4: Wow, this is where Western civilization really breaks down. You 258 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 4: take maybe the greatest writer in the history of writing, 259 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 4: and you're going to. 260 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: Ruin it. 261 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 4: For lack of a better word, You're you're gonna take 262 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: it out of Western civilization. 263 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: That's right. 264 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: You're going to crush it and make it so infamous 265 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: nobody teaches it anymore because. 266 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: He was white. That's right. More or less already has. 267 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: The Telegraph reported that the Shakespeare's Birthplace Trust, a British nonprofit, 268 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: is working toward quote unquote decolonizing its collection of Shakespeare 269 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: related artifacts to create a more inclusive museum experience. 270 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 2: It's been going on for years. 271 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 4: Harold Bloom is that the name of the Yale professor 272 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: who's the biggest Shakespeare expert in America written all these books. 273 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: I've read several of them, and he said years ago, 274 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 4: because I was watching an old Charlie Rose. 275 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: I think this was in the late nineties, he. 276 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: Said, nobody's teaching Shakespeare anywhere in the United States now, 277 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 4: where it's not about how unrepresented women are in this play, 278 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 4: or you know, slavery is blah blah blah. Nobody's just 279 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 4: flat out teaching it anymore. 280 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 7: So. 281 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: Now Shakespeare, despite being born in fifteen sixty four and 282 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: largely writing plays that took place in Western Europe, is 283 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: being scrutinized for his alleged impact on colonialism. The process 284 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: of decolonializing Shakespeare's work reportedly includes researching quote, the continued 285 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: impact of colonialism on world history and the ways in 286 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: which quote Shakespeare's work has played a part in this. 287 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: This is a this is a successful civilization actually destroying itself. 288 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is horrifying. 289 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: Concerns have been raised that celebration of Shakespeare enables white 290 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: supremacy right. The Trust also warned that some items in 291 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: the collections and archives relating to the iconic sixteenth century 292 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: playwright may contain quote, language or depictions that are racist, sexist, homophobic, 293 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: or otherwise harmful. 294 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 4: You could add my high school son to the list 295 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 4: of people who would be perfectly fine with Shakespeare going away, 296 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 4: as he's in the middle of his Romeo and Juliet 297 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 4: course in English and hating it. It's it takes a 298 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 4: little bit of work, yes, And then I wanted to 299 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: get to this. This is such a classic example of 300 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 4: how the permanent bureaucracy, as I call it, or maybe 301 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 4: you call it the deep state, I think it's two 302 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: spy novelly sounding. 303 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: Perverts governance. This is a story from Georgia. The state's 304 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: Department of Community Health asked in twenty fifteen to determine 305 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: which insurance providers would administer medicaid to millions of people 306 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: across the state. So it's a multi billion dollar contract 307 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: for who's gonna administer dental coverage, and senior staffers hijack 308 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: the process to in sort a question related to trans 309 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: transgender children, according to internal documents, so it was a 310 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: questionnaire of these companies, how do you handle this, how 311 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: do you handle that? What's your priority? Here, here's a 312 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: case study for you, how would you handle that? And again, 313 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: these senior staffers inserted, and more or less the last minute, 314 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: a question about a fourteen year old transgender, white female 315 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, if she came in to get a 316 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: cavity filled how would you handle it? And they also 317 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: apportioned a disproportionate number of points to the point system 318 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: on how you answered that question. So unless you as 319 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: a company essentially wrote well, because that's a perfectly legitimate 320 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: thing and transgenderism Israel and the dentist would refer her 321 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: him to immediately to a gender counseling office, which would 322 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: offer them hormones and transition surgery if desired. That's what 323 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: we would do the minute we met them. If you 324 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: didn't answer like that, you were out of a multi 325 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: billion dollar bid, that's DEI, that's Georgia. In spite of 326 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: Brian Camp, Brian Kemp being anti all that stuff his 327 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: bureaucracy did. 328 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: It's rough. Yep. 329 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: Oh, we haven't gotten to Kid Rock in the Oval 330 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: office yesterday and what that was all about. It's an 331 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: interesting topic actually, and the fact that Kid Rock broke 332 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: her to deal between Trump and Bill Maher. 333 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 4: So Trump is going to go talk to Bill Maher 334 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 4: and do an interview. Oh wow, because Kid Rock's friends 335 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 4: with both of them and put that together. 336 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 2: And we ought to talk about the ticket broker thing. 337 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Trump and Kid Rock announced because it's really interesting. 338 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: So an additional perspective on a question we've asked, many, 339 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: many times, what's it going to take for the Blue 340 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: States of America the voters to finally understand that the 341 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: terrible policies that have been enacted and ruined their states 342 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: are at fault for their states being ruined and make 343 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: a change politically speaking, to discuss. We've invited John phillips On. 344 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: John is a California native. He's a longtime radio personality 345 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: on the mighty seven to ninety KABC in Los Angeles, 346 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: our belived affiliate, and starting today on a ten KSFO 347 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: in the San Francisco Bay Area, columnists for the Orange 348 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: County Register. 349 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: Among other things, John always a pleasure. How are you? 350 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 7: I'm great? And by the way, I can't wait to 351 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 7: hear the Kid Rock segment because I don't know if 352 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 7: you've seen how he's been dressing lately. Yeah, but it 353 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 7: looks like Rod rot on the fourth of July. 354 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's quite the outfit to wear to the 355 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: Oval office. He makes Don King look reserved. Yeah, yeah, 356 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: really amazing. So John, to the operative question here, why 357 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: have and you're, you know, most expert in the ways 358 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: of California, But why have the voters of California not 359 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: risen up in a recognizable way yet and said, hey, 360 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: are states gone to hell? 361 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: We got to change course. 362 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 7: Well, as an angel fan, I feel like i have 363 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 7: an authority on this subject because I'm familiar with this 364 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 7: and disappointment. But what's going on right now in California 365 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 7: and in many of the blue states with one party 366 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 7: rule is that it is possible to push too far. 367 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 7: And that's exactly what the Democrats have been doing here 368 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 7: in California. And it doesn't matter what subject you talk about, 369 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 7: whether it's crime or homelessness, or the budget or insurance 370 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 7: fill in the blank. They have dropped the ball and 371 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 7: they have turned the Golden State, the most beautiful state 372 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 7: in the Union, into a place that fundamentally doesn't work. 373 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 7: And what you've seen in the last election is you 374 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 7: saw the seeds of discontent being planted. California moved dramatically 375 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 7: to the right from where they were. In the last 376 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 7: presidential election, Californians voted for Proposition thirty six, which would 377 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 7: then start to crack down on criminals and repeal Prop 378 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 7: forty seven, which was a proposition that was a very 379 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 7: soft on crime initiative. And you saw many of the 380 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 7: sorosdas like George Gascon and Pamela Price get booted from office. 381 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 7: So there is hope, and there is light at the 382 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 7: end of the tunnel. And for the first time, that 383 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 7: light at the end of the tunnel is not a train. 384 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 7: Kevin right at us. 385 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 4: Well, we've been on in San Francisco for twenty two years. 386 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 4: And the fact that they now have decided, you know, 387 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 4: that's enough and you choose a mayor who's going to 388 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 4: do something about the street people. I mean, that's a 389 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 4: step in the right direction. 390 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 7: Sure, And it's not just San Francisco. Look across the 391 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 7: Bay in Oakland where the DA Pamela Price was booted 392 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 7: out of office by voters, and so was the mayor 393 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 7: Shang Tao, who is also right now being investigated by 394 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 7: the FBI and looking at potentially north of ninety years 395 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 7: in prison. If they can get with the program. In 396 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 7: Oakland and San Francisco, the state is salvagable. 397 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: At least the mayor had an excuse for being soft 398 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: on crime. She's a criminal. I meant it's a conflict 399 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: of interest, you know, John, maybe the tangential question, because 400 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: your examples are all great and they're absolutely accurate, but 401 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: they're all either one Democrat over another or something like 402 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: a proposition to say proposition which isn't explicitly partisan. So 403 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: here's the question, how did and I'm sorry one more aside, 404 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: then I'll actually ask the damn question. When we moved 405 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: to California nineteen ninety six, Pete Wilson was in the middle, 406 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 1: I believe his second term, very purple state, very reasonable governance, 407 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: and somehow the Republican brand just went to hell. 408 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: Your opinion on, you know, briefly. 409 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: How it got there, but arnold side, is there any right, 410 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: is there any rehabilitating it? 411 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 7: And how well, if you pay attention to the universities, 412 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 7: what they would say it was all Proposition one eighty seven. 413 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 7: I don't buy that. But I think happened is that 414 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 7: the Cold War ended. 415 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: Just for folks that don't understand, that was the prop 416 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: that said no services for illegals, which passed with a 417 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: strong majority, but then all of a sudden became anathema. 418 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: Anyway back to you, John. 419 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, that was Trump before Trump. But I think 420 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 7: the greater issue, the greater problem for Republicans in California, 421 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 7: at least, was the end of the Cold War, because 422 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 7: you had all of the military bases shut down or 423 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 7: many of them shut down. So guys with crew cuts 424 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 7: and degrees in engineering and metals on their chest stopped 425 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 7: moving to the state. The aerospace industry essentially moved out 426 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 7: of California and we were replaced by the tech industry. 427 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 7: And the tech industry attracts people who want to live 428 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 7: in coastal communities. They're socially liberal, they have graduate degrees, 429 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 7: and they end up voting for people like Nancy Pelosi 430 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 7: and Gavin Newsom and those types of Democrats. But what 431 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 7: you're starting to see right now, because you're right that 432 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 7: the examples I gave were individual issues or races, but 433 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 7: look at voter registration numbers in California today compared to 434 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 7: where they were a couple of years ago. There have 435 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 7: been dramatic moves to the right in cities like Glendale, 436 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 7: cities in eastern Los Angeles County. Beverly Hills is now 437 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 7: a majority Republican city. And you're also seeing it in 438 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 7: those agricultural areas in the central part of the state, 439 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 7: Imperial County, where you have a lot of Latino voters 440 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 7: who are really not happy with what they're getting from Sacramento. 441 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to alienate Latinos. 442 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: Explain that if little Wan comes back and says he's 443 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: now Janita, you have to accept it, or we're taking 444 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: your son away from you. 445 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 2: Good lord. 446 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean those subjects are very offensive to a 447 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 7: lot of people. And also don't discount the damage that 448 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 7: the COVID nineteen shutdowns did to a lot of these people. 449 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: Because if you have a kid. 450 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 7: In school and all of a sudden they went from 451 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 7: going to school five days a week to being stuck 452 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 7: inside their bedroom playing video games twenty four to seven, 453 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 7: that's like a crash course in how to become an 454 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 7: active shooter. Those parents are furious. If you own a 455 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 7: small business and your small business was shut down, well, 456 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 7: Seth Bezos was allowed to operate, you're furious at what 457 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 7: Sacramento did, and they have long memories. 458 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. John Phillips is on the line. John, I always 459 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: point out. 460 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: That the public employee unions have enormous power and enormous numbers, 461 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: especially when they're joined by the nurses and a couple 462 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: of their notable private sector unions. That's always going to 463 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: be a force to be reckoned with. 464 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. 465 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 7: But right now, what you're seeing when you have a 466 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 7: budget crisis, which is what California has, is choices have 467 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 7: to be made. Are you going to stick with the 468 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 7: bullet train or are you going to stick with public 469 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 7: employees in some other sector? And right now there are 470 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 7: a finite amount of resources and they're all battling for it. 471 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 7: You're going to have winners and you're going to have losers, 472 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 7: but not everyone is going to win. And if you're 473 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 7: the team that's in charge, which in this one party state, 474 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 7: the Democrats are, you're going to have to upset a 475 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 7: lot of your friends. And when you start to upset 476 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 7: them over and over and over again, they're going to 477 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 7: start looking elsewhere. 478 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: John Phillips is an Orange County Register columnist also on 479 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: mighty KBC in LA and KSFO from noon to three Pacific. 480 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to talk to John. Good luck with 481 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: the new show, and let's stay in touch, all right, 482 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me on our pleasure. 483 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 2: That was interesting. 484 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 4: I never heard anybody make that point about the Cold 485 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 4: War ending and the bases shutting down, and then you 486 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: know the tech business being big. It's also interesting that 487 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 4: the tech world as lefty as it is with Google 488 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 4: and Apple and everything. The biggest dog of all is 489 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 4: Elon Musk and he is the poster child for being 490 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 4: a Trump Nazi. Yeah yeah, and it's interesting. Demographics are 491 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 4: so incredibly important. 492 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: I remember when because because you have policy shifting, meanwhile 493 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: you have demographic groups shifting in their ideology and the 494 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: parties shifting as well. So you we have a fairly reasonable, 495 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: fairly purple Democratic Party in the nineties, for instance, become 496 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: the anti George Bush kind of fever pitch because the 497 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: Iraq War hurt the Republican brand in California pretty badly. 498 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: But then you have the Democrats moving toward crime is fine, 499 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: the whole postmodern woke thing, you know, white supremacy, which 500 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: includes Hispanic people unless they're down with again juan coming 501 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: home as Juanita. And you're seeing a transition. But it 502 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: takes a long damn time, especially when there are trillions 503 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: of dollars at stake, and the people controlling them are 504 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: not honest dealers friends. They are hedging their bets every 505 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: way they can. The Iraq War started in March of three, 506 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: which is when we started in San Francisco, So it 507 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: has been twenty two years ago. As of last month, Yeah, 508 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: I mentioned that Kid Rock broke he to deal between 509 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: and Bill Maher. Trump said he is reluctantly agreeing to this, 510 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: but because he respects Kid Rock, he'll do it. 511 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 2: And he said it might be fun or it might not. 512 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: That could be quite the news making conversation between mar 513 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: and Trump. Yeah, I'm trying to imagine how it would go, 514 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: and it's just it's gonna be wild. 515 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: I think so. 516 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 4: But why was Kid Rock in the Oval office? Pretty interesting? 517 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 4: And this is not politics? Really, if you ever go 518 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 4: to concerts or games, you care about this among other 519 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 4: things on the ways, stay here. 520 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,479 Speaker 2: I forgot about this. Oh was so good. 521 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 1: I was about to say, if we're going to talk 522 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: about Kid Rock, who was in the Oval office just 523 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: to dressed like he's the. 524 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: MC of a circus. 525 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: If you Kid Rock really hit the national scene at 526 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: was it Woodstock Too or Lollapo one of those big 527 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: outdoor concerts. 528 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: He came out and just killed it. 529 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 4: I mean, if you ever watch that YouTube video of that, 530 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 4: I mean, it's the energy. 531 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: Coming off of that when he does my name is Kid, 532 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 2: the midget comes out and the crowd just goes. 533 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: Berzerk I'm sorry, my headphones are weird, did you say, 534 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: and the midget comes out yes. But anyway, he had 535 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: a dwarf hype man there for a cup of coffee. 536 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I should say for a forty that 537 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: was something. 538 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 4: But uh, if you if you watch that, or you 539 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 4: were watching it at the time, you wouldn't have thought. 540 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 4: You know, someday he'll be standing in the Oval Office 541 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 4: with the President of the United States. Anyway, he was yesterday, 542 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 4: and uh, this is part of what they were discussing. 543 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: I want the. 544 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 7: Fans have a fair ticket price to be able to go. 545 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: We can enjoy it more shows. 546 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 7: I know people that can only they decide on a 547 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 7: family vacation or going to their favorite concert once a year, 548 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 7: rather than you know, our parents to go see multiple 549 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 7: shows so you can afford them back in their day. 550 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: So Kid Rock goes on to say, and he just 551 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: said what a lot of musicians have said. 552 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 4: You know, I want to low well, I want to 553 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 4: lower my prices for certain people or whatever. But it 554 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 4: doesn't do any good if I lower my prices. The 555 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 4: third market people, stub hub and all those other companies, 556 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 4: they buy them and sell them and make the profit 557 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 4: and they get the money and I don't. So I 558 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: haven't accomplished anything. I didn't give my fans a break, 559 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 4: and I don't get the money. 560 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So. 561 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: The executive order aimed at cracking down a ticket price 562 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: gouging and other exploited practices by middlemen like ticket brokers, 563 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: although I actually know a ticket broker. And here's the 564 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: part he would emphasize. The order directs the Federal Trade 565 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: Commission to more rigorously enforce existing law governing the use 566 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: of bots that help scalper scoop up hot tickets, including 567 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: by issuing fines. 568 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: All of us have wondered this our whole lives. 569 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 4: Really if you were you know, back in the day, 570 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 4: long before the internet or whatever, but if some group 571 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 4: was coming to town, it's like, oh, I want to 572 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 4: be able to go to this concert, and you know 573 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 4: what time the tickets go on sale, and you got 574 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 4: your old rotary phone and you're ready to call it. 575 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: All the tickets are gone before you could gone. How 576 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: did that work? Right? Yeah? I know, And it's interesting. 577 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: It's multifascinating because I know, like the non bot use 578 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: it because that's already illegal. And my friend al Anonymous 579 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: said they already, don't enforce the bot laws on the books, 580 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: and he's fired all the horse catchers already, and then 581 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: he emailed the response from an association. But the way 582 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: it used to work, or was supposed to work, was 583 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: that a lot of the ticket brokers have contracts with 584 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: the big concert companies that it's essentially it's like buying corn. 585 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: Futures or cattle futures. 586 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: They say, I'll buy seventy five tickets to every single show, 587 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: and some of them will be in high demand and 588 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: I'll make a lot of money. Some of them will 589 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: not be and I will lose money, but I will 590 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: be your client and I will buy tickets to X 591 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: number shows. But the amateurs now because bots are so 592 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: easy to design. I could no more design a bot 593 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: than build a car with my own hands, but they're 594 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: so easy to design. Every Tom, Dick and Harry who 595 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: has any computer knowledge is now doing it on an 596 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: ad hoc basis, and so that's the real problem. And 597 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: then they put them on the resale market and it's 598 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: just everybody is snatching up tickets. 599 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 4: Well, if you're the music artist, though, even aside from 600 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 4: the bot thing, so is your only hope to just 601 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 4: charge as much as you think you can and make 602 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 4: the maximum profit. I mean, there's no point in trying 603 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 4: to keep your tickets at a price where like your 604 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 4: kid rock or a lot of people Taylor Swift, do 605 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 4: you want to make it sure an average family of 606 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: four can come to your concert? 607 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 2: Right, it's just impossible. Well, yeah, and it looks terrible. 608 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of artists, singers, entertainers are really 609 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: sensitive to not looking like they're gouging their fans because 610 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: there's an emotional relationship there that a bot certainly doesn't 611 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: have with their fans. 612 00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: They couldn't give a crap. 613 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 4: Well, I understand, uh, free market capitalism, supply demand, all 614 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 4: that sort of stuff, But is there any other is there? 615 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 4: Why doesn't this happen in other just because there's not 616 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 4: enough demand, it doesn't happen in any other segment of society. 617 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: That's a great question. 618 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, the supply and demand curves are skewed, especially for 619 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: the really popular artists, because you can't you can only 620 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: play certain number of shows or it'd kill you as 621 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: a performer. And so you're playing two nights in Omaha period, 622 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: then moving on down the road. 623 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 2: Wow, so you've got to. 624 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 4: Keep your prices at a certain level so you don't 625 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 4: look like a jerk to your fans. But some third 626 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 4: party makes the money and there's nothing you can do 627 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 4: about it, right, Huh. 628 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: Well, that's obviously no good. I mean, that's that's just 629 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: it's it's unfair, and it's you. 630 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 4: Know, as a fan, if I'm gonna have to pay 631 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty bucks for a ticket, I would 632 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 4: rather the money goes to my musician that I really 633 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 4: like and care about their music than some ticket company. 634 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 635 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: So Interestingly, the National Association of Ticket Brokers put out 636 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: the following statement. We applaud President Trump for undertaking an 637 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: effort to enforce the Federal Bots Act and working to 638 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: root out bad players in the system, even though bots 639 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: are not the main reason why consumers experience frustration when 640 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: trying to buy tickets. Uh. When tickets do go on sale, 641 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: people should not be competing with ticket hoarding software to 642 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: make a purchase. Yeah. 643 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 644 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 4: Is this going to make much different in reality for 645 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 4: ticket buyers. It'll make a difference for like some of 646 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 4: these companies, but is it gonna make any difference to me? 647 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 4: I'm not sure it is because again, the same problem 648 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 4: more or less seemed to exist before modern technology. 649 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: Right and and again according to my friend in the business, 650 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: that they're not they don't enforce the laws. 651 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: Now, it's like gun laws. Let's pass another gun law. 652 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 4: Kid Rock said, like he's he said, I'm friends with 653 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 4: the CEO of Ticketmaster and I'm meeting with him today 654 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 4: over this. So it's not like he's angry at them 655 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: or trying to screw them or whatever. Right, he actually said, 656 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 4: we're trying to come up with the way that everybody 657 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 4: makes money that's fair. 658 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and fair enough. And I'm completely agnostic on 659 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: this topic. By the way, I'm not defending anybody in particular. 660 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: It's just one of the aspects of DOGE that we 661 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: need to work through, and I'm willing to work through. 662 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: It is as my buddy put it, they've fired all 663 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: the horse catchers. 664 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: There's a funny way to put it. 665 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: And we'll have to see because a lot of the 666 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: legitimate law enforcement functions of the federal government take people 667 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: and lots of people consumer protection stuff, for instance, and 668 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how it shakes out. 669 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 2: In the raw politics of it. 670 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 4: This is another example of Trump understanding real issues for 671 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 4: real people that they care about, and looking like he's 672 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 4: trying to do something for them. 673 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: And whether he will actually be effective in that or 674 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: just look like it. I don't know, but I do 675 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: want kid rock suit obviously tailored and if you haven't 676 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: seen it, we'll post pictures in a video at Armstrong 677 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: and Giddy dot com. Obviously, I'll have to have it 678 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: tailored for me. I'm slightly more full figured than mister Rock. 679 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: You're the same age. 680 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,479 Speaker 1: Is almost a qualifies for medicare Rock at this point 681 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: close he looks a little rough too. 682 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: I look far more youthful 683 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty