1
00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,720
Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

2
00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,200
Speaker 2: Elizabeth is Saren, How you doing?

3
00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:08,960
Speaker 3: I'm so good?

4
00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:10,319
Speaker 2: I got a question for you?

5
00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:11,440
Speaker 3: All right?

6
00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:12,840
Speaker 2: Do you know what's ridiculous?

7
00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:13,080
Speaker 3: Oh?

8
00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,520
Speaker 2: Do I look in your eyes? I do you really do?

9
00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,920
Speaker 3: Now? You wear a ball cap pretty much every day

10
00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,320
Speaker 3: unless it's like really cold. Then you were a beanie.

11
00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,000
Speaker 2: It's a religious ball cap, Elizabeth. I'm you know, covering

12
00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:26,640
Speaker 2: my head for God.

13
00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,560
Speaker 3: Okay, good for you. But it's like every time I

14
00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,840
Speaker 3: see you, youde yes, every day?

15
00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,120
Speaker 2: Yes, you need to keep the hair out of my eyes.

16
00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,919
Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's a good that's a good thing. It's

17
00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,720
Speaker 3: fun for you. But do you ever feel like, oh

18
00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,680
Speaker 3: my god, people can't look at my hair?

19
00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,000
Speaker 2: Also, why I wear the hat?

20
00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,599
Speaker 3: Oh? You don't want to know?

21
00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes Maybebeth.

22
00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,879
Speaker 3: But I'm just thinking like, do you do you have

23
00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,760
Speaker 3: that conflict, that point of conflict in your just say

24
00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,760
Speaker 3: I do? Okay, good because there's an answer.

25
00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,920
Speaker 2: Now is it an app? No, it's their hairstyle.

26
00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,720
Speaker 3: There's Lids. Are you familiar with Lids? Do you have

27
00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:08,640
Speaker 3: any of their products?

28
00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,760
Speaker 2: I've bought some from I know.

29
00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:15,280
Speaker 3: Okay, so Lids they joined up. You got me I

30
00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,119
Speaker 3: know another company called sport Clips, which is like super cuts.

31
00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,480
Speaker 3: It's a hair cut in place, like please.

32
00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,200
Speaker 2: Tell me they like attached hair to a hat.

33
00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:28,600
Speaker 3: No, although those are pretty amazing. You've seen that, like

34
00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,480
Speaker 3: the a visor with the guy fiery, or there's like

35
00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,520
Speaker 3: the tam with the dreads you usually do and then

36
00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,000
Speaker 3: have it's like it's like it off, you still still

37
00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,400
Speaker 3: has it like a Russian What are those called extensions?

38
00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:45,640
Speaker 2: Your hair looks fact like you don't know what those

39
00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,040
Speaker 2: are called. You're from Oakland, one of those.

40
00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,240
Speaker 3: One of those cold extensions. Or I've seen it with

41
00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,440
Speaker 3: like a mullet in the back. This isn't that.

42
00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,520
Speaker 2: No, No, no hockey hair for this one.

43
00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,520
Speaker 3: This is like I want people to see my hair.

44
00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,440
Speaker 3: So what they've done for National Hat Day which we missed?

45
00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,080
Speaker 2: I missed it again this year?

46
00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, January fifteenth, put it on your calendar. Will They

47
00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,800
Speaker 3: came together with the thing a clear hat?

48
00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:16,960
Speaker 2: Is this like so you can get your hat through

49
00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,320
Speaker 2: security at TSA.

50
00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,480
Speaker 3: To take it to a concert?

51
00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,080
Speaker 2: Concert? This hat's clear?

52
00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:28,080
Speaker 3: No, this hat is clear. This it's a clear hat

53
00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,360
Speaker 3: so that people can see your cool haircut.

54
00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,360
Speaker 2: Are you for real? I'm one hundred percent of hat.

55
00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so one hundred exclusive clear hats we're up

56
00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,480
Speaker 3: for grabs through the sports Clips and Lid's Instagram accounts.

57
00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,839
Speaker 3: It was a giveaway through January twentieth. It's it's it's

58
00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:48,240
Speaker 3: a lot.

59
00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,040
Speaker 2: It's a weak mashup. I'll tell you who. My sister, Martin.

60
00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,200
Speaker 3: Lee, chief marketing officer of sports Clips Haircuts, said, for

61
00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,280
Speaker 3: too long, the hat has been the enemy of hair,

62
00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,600
Speaker 3: but this partnership is putting an end.

63
00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,160
Speaker 2: To that is an enemy of hair.

64
00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,639
Speaker 3: Our pro stylists take great care and giving our clients

65
00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,160
Speaker 3: incredible haircuts, and now our clients can show off their

66
00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,240
Speaker 3: fresh cuts all day every day.

67
00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,919
Speaker 2: Oh big JFK fan this guy.

68
00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had of the hair. The hat is the

69
00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,400
Speaker 3: enemy of the hair because.

70
00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,000
Speaker 2: You know he killed the whole Fedora wearing the hat

71
00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,200
Speaker 2: wearing tradition in America.

72
00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,880
Speaker 3: Right, that's right, right.

73
00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,120
Speaker 2: And clear that up? Make what I meant you know.

74
00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,480
Speaker 3: You go so in some insummation.

75
00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,480
Speaker 2: Please, what's your conclusion of this button?

76
00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,760
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.

77
00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,600
Speaker 2: That is ridiculous.

78
00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,920
Speaker 3: Oh wait, and one more thing, Mason on Instagram is

79
00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,200
Speaker 3: the one who told us about this totally yodally on Instagram.

80
00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:50,880
Speaker 2: Or thank you to.

81
00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:53,000
Speaker 3: Wait.

82
00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,400
Speaker 2: Wait, you know, sit back down. You know what else

83
00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,720
Speaker 2: is ridiculous? I got something for you? Yeah? Back down?

84
00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,600
Speaker 2: All right? Yeah, there you go, smile too, look at that. Okay,

85
00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,360
Speaker 2: this one is more like a joke. Okay, it is

86
00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,000
Speaker 2: a joke. What's black and white and red all over?

87
00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,160
Speaker 3: Uh?

88
00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,040
Speaker 2: A newspaper? There you go. I got another one for you.

89
00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,520
Speaker 2: What's black and white and ridiculous all over?

90
00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:16,280
Speaker 3: Uh?

91
00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,160
Speaker 2: You a none with a hardcore gambling problem.

92
00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:45,200
Speaker 4: Oh, this is ridiculous crime, a podcast about ebisode and

93
00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,479
Speaker 4: a rageous capers his and comes.

94
00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,320
Speaker 2: It's always ninety nine percent murder free and one hundred

95
00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,160
Speaker 2: percent ridiculus ticulus diculus.

96
00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:56,880
Speaker 3: Are you okay?

97
00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,840
Speaker 2: I know I'm telling Elizabeth, Elizabeth, I got more fun

98
00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,000
Speaker 2: for you though. I love fun, you know I was

99
00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,880
Speaker 2: telling you. I ordered myself some priests shirts and priest

100
00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:10,159
Speaker 2: collars and I fly domestically. They arrived. I got them

101
00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,880
Speaker 2: like a long sleeve, short sleeve, one for the summer,

102
00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,120
Speaker 2: one for the winter. I'm about to have so much

103
00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,120
Speaker 2: fun on domestic flights. Yes, the white collar, it's got

104
00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,080
Speaker 2: the whole neck and everything. I got like, I got

105
00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,480
Speaker 2: like six collars in case I lose one. When I'm traveling, I.

106
00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,240
Speaker 3: Just some Daisy Dukes.

107
00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,360
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I got to get the right shoes

108
00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,120
Speaker 2: and pants. I do not have priest pants in my wardrobe.

109
00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,159
Speaker 3: Just a pair of Carhart.

110
00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,040
Speaker 2: Well yeah that would work. I don't think my car

111
00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,560
Speaker 2: Hearts would work. So yeah. And also my Adidas stripe

112
00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,039
Speaker 2: to like uh, like what do you call it? Track pants?

113
00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,520
Speaker 2: That also gonna work. Yeah, So I need to go

114
00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:43,520
Speaker 2: get somewhere.

115
00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,400
Speaker 3: You wear those Adidas running shoes with the big heel, right, oh.

116
00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the slow shoes. Yeah yeah, yeah exactly. I don't

117
00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,200
Speaker 2: think those are gonna work either as a priest. So

118
00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,440
Speaker 2: I need to get some really good I don't know,

119
00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,360
Speaker 2: sensible new balances. I guess at most you.

120
00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,560
Speaker 3: Need like black good like good boys shoes, know, yeah,

121
00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,400
Speaker 3: like loafers, the loafers, you know what I'm talking about.

122
00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,680
Speaker 2: What are those called, like uh Thom mc cann type

123
00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:08,239
Speaker 2: of yeah.

124
00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,840
Speaker 3: Like from the yeah loafers, loafers, Okay, yeah, you know

125
00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:19,440
Speaker 3: us brown stride rights.

126
00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,720
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna get spirits around China Town to get

127
00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,359
Speaker 2: myself some comfortable Chinese flats. They're black, don't want to

128
00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:29,039
Speaker 2: look down, yeah exactly i'd be dope. So anyway, all

129
00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,480
Speaker 2: that got me thinking about this story, right about if

130
00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,479
Speaker 2: I'm going to pretend to be a priest in public

131
00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,480
Speaker 2: on domestic flights, you know, and just the whole idea

132
00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,039
Speaker 2: of wearing costumes in general. That's what I got it for.

133
00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,520
Speaker 3: The hair, I.

134
00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,919
Speaker 2: Know, that's the other issue I'm working on that I'm

135
00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,359
Speaker 2: thinking about, Like, yeah, some kind of hat, like I

136
00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,840
Speaker 2: can get all the hair up in or it looks

137
00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,800
Speaker 2: like oh maybe he's yes, well no, but like that

138
00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,480
Speaker 2: just you make in maybe a miter would work. Producer

139
00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,920
Speaker 2: d on that, like I like, like a real pope pat.

140
00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,720
Speaker 3: Well, that actually would work. But then you got to

141
00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,479
Speaker 3: go with the robe. What about like a Badu head wrap?

142
00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,239
Speaker 2: There you go, I can go like Eastern Orthodox styley

143
00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,000
Speaker 2: and get one of them, just like big hats.

144
00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,120
Speaker 3: Then you got to do a beard.

145
00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, maybe I can say I'm beard deficient, like

146
00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,600
Speaker 2: you know, I was in an accident Chernobyl as a boy.

147
00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,880
Speaker 2: This long story anyway, I gotta do this story for you,

148
00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,720
Speaker 2: Elizabeth about criminal nuns and fake priest and I was like,

149
00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,040
Speaker 2: I got to share this, right, So yeah, Well, the

150
00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,160
Speaker 2: first story is the story of a nun on the run.

151
00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,280
Speaker 3: Oh you've told me that, yeah, well twice. Well then

152
00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,000
Speaker 3: on the run and then criminal nuns.

153
00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one is about a woman's bounce around in

154
00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,680
Speaker 2: northern Italy. I told you about that.

155
00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,840
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, we had the Belgian nuns on the run,

156
00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,520
Speaker 3: and then we had the Texas nuns.

157
00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, sister, like I got a thing for nuts.

158
00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,240
Speaker 2: Trying to dress as a priest. I'm hoping maybe more

159
00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,920
Speaker 2: nuns will talk to me. You can pick up, start

160
00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:59,080
Speaker 2: taking on. That's my move, a priest picking away from

161
00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,640
Speaker 2: the life. Guys follow me. I got a whole plan.

162
00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a podcast out of this, Eliz I'm

163
00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:11,720
Speaker 2: an pick up artist. So anyway, this story has this

164
00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,680
Speaker 2: woman bouncing around northern Italy, right, trying to stay one

165
00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,840
Speaker 2: step ahead of the long arm of Gianni law. Can

166
00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,200
Speaker 2: stick with me, So the story goes, it's forty seven

167
00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,880
Speaker 2: year old Sicilian fraudster, not a real nun. She gets

168
00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,960
Speaker 2: popped by the Italian police, right, this is twenty seventeen,

169
00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,360
Speaker 2: and she thinks perhaps it's time for her to you know,

170
00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,520
Speaker 2: join the clergy. And this is like, you know, before

171
00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,720
Speaker 2: she goes to prison. Yeah, and of course unofficially, of course.

172
00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,480
Speaker 2: She just so, I'm gonna go hang out with some nuns.

173
00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,240
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, if you want to like disappear

174
00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,280
Speaker 2: in a crowd, there's a bunch of like priests around.

175
00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,880
Speaker 2: This is just me, This is just so. This frauster

176
00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,319
Speaker 2: goes into hiding to avoid her troubles in the court.

177
00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,080
Speaker 3: I told you before we you and I had a

178
00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,640
Speaker 3: conversation a long time ago about what if you found

179
00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,640
Speaker 3: yourself homeless, Like what would you do? And I was like,

180
00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:56,600
Speaker 3: join a convent.

181
00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you can help them, Like I go in

182
00:08:58,880 --> 00:08:59,600
Speaker 2: there and be like.

183
00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:05,480
Speaker 3: Up and safe, I love Jesus and place, where.

184
00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,000
Speaker 2: Is my girl?

185
00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:07,880
Speaker 3: I got food, I got friends.

186
00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you'd be a great time to do. Totally.

187
00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:11,520
Speaker 3: I would be a really good.

188
00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,960
Speaker 2: So good retirement bad plan for you.

189
00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,839
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think I'm gonna have to do that looking

190
00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,840
Speaker 3: at my non existent retirement.

191
00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,680
Speaker 2: Pick a country, you like, go find a convent there.

192
00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:22,880
Speaker 3: That's really good idea. Right.

193
00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,560
Speaker 2: So that's what this homegirl does, right because she gets

194
00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,439
Speaker 2: tried in absentia in Italy. Meanwhile, and she's like, I

195
00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,679
Speaker 2: gotta go to the Elizabeth Dutton plan and laylo in

196
00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,840
Speaker 2: a convent right, And so while she's tried and absentia,

197
00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,040
Speaker 2: she gets sentenced to two years in prison. So it's

198
00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,640
Speaker 2: like real time she's facing right now. There's also a

199
00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,920
Speaker 2: legit warrant for her rest out. People are looking inner

200
00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,599
Speaker 2: Pole as well, but she's like, you know, Bonjo, I

201
00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,360
Speaker 2: don't know now, deuce is I'm outty five one thousand right,

202
00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,040
Speaker 2: She's gone, right, So the Sicilian fraudster? Where does she

203
00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,040
Speaker 2: go hide to Elizabeth? As we said, a convent? But

204
00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,600
Speaker 2: where in Italy? What convent in what part of Italy

205
00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:57,120
Speaker 2: would you pick?

206
00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,679
Speaker 3: Uh? Tuscany?

207
00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she picks Lombardy. Okay, yeah, not far away,

208
00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,880
Speaker 2: that's not too well, yeah, kind of far away. Anyway,

209
00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,120
Speaker 2: she's laying low with the sisters and no one thought

210
00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,920
Speaker 2: to look there amongst a bunch of nuns. Yeah, that's

211
00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,680
Speaker 2: hard to say anyway, has our favorite resident noun expert. Right,

212
00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,600
Speaker 2: let's say you're on the run, as you said, and

213
00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,360
Speaker 2: you need to hide out in a convent and you're

214
00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,480
Speaker 2: not trying to be like, hey, I want to join up.

215
00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,240
Speaker 2: How do you convince them to let you hang out

216
00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,320
Speaker 2: as like just passing through? Do you think you could

217
00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,440
Speaker 2: do that? Oh? Yeah, how would you do it well,

218
00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,559
Speaker 2: would you like volunteer? Would you try to show them

219
00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,040
Speaker 2: like you got arts? Would you do like a little

220
00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,400
Speaker 2: like show and tell, like hey, i'd be.

221
00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,360
Speaker 3: Funny to make sure that it's that you're more of

222
00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,280
Speaker 3: a benefit than a dream. Because they already don't have anything.

223
00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,040
Speaker 2: Exactly, and they don't want to take up their resources.

224
00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,480
Speaker 3: So I think you have to not only bring them

225
00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:55,160
Speaker 3: like skills talent assistance if you don't have money, Yeah, exactly,

226
00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,559
Speaker 3: I think you then need to give them a story

227
00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,720
Speaker 3: that they want to take pity and help you.

228
00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,800
Speaker 2: You're brilliant. I know that this is exactly what she does. Yes,

229
00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,800
Speaker 2: our Sicilian fake nun crafty like you phones ahead, she

230
00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,920
Speaker 2: would wring a convent and she says that she was

231
00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,280
Speaker 2: quote a sister looking for help and claiming she was

232
00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,840
Speaker 2: severely ill. So she played on their pity and the

233
00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,240
Speaker 2: nuns went right into none action. So this fake mother Mary,

234
00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,160
Speaker 2: she's good right, well practiced devil in the con game.

235
00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,600
Speaker 2: Not just all that, she's also a thief, right, she's

236
00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,760
Speaker 2: a sort of criminal who would like convince her marks

237
00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,000
Speaker 2: to happily give her what she wanted so she could

238
00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,600
Speaker 2: steal moments, steal hard she was amazing right now, nuns

239
00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,559
Speaker 2: obviously very compliant marks they're believing, they're trusting so forth

240
00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,959
Speaker 2: and may even forgive you, you know. Anyway, at one convent,

241
00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,480
Speaker 2: this fake mother Mary shows up. Right. She claims to

242
00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,720
Speaker 2: be a niece of one of the sisters at the convent.

243
00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,679
Speaker 2: I guess this niece and aunt hadn't seen each other

244
00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,480
Speaker 2: in a long time, or maybe the numb was hard

245
00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,679
Speaker 2: of the hard of hearing, had poor vision where she

246
00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,959
Speaker 2: couldn't see her niece, or maybe both hard of hearing.

247
00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,680
Speaker 3: And I don't know, all those cons where people will

248
00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,440
Speaker 3: call an elderly person and be like Grandma, I'm in chaill.

249
00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, in a moment of panic. Yeah sure, but

250
00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,520
Speaker 2: somehow it worked out.

251
00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:18,440
Speaker 3: And who is Susan anyway?

252
00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:23,200
Speaker 2: Why Susan such a funny name. So at this point,

253
00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,520
Speaker 2: she keeps it moving, right, She's bouncing around from convent

254
00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,520
Speaker 2: from convent, using all these tricks. She phones ahead, that's

255
00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,560
Speaker 2: her move, right, So she gets sets up her next

256
00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,680
Speaker 2: lodgings and then this other one. She tells these expectant

257
00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,199
Speaker 2: nuns that she's a mother superior, like I don't know

258
00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,199
Speaker 2: if she's like she doesn't say that she's their new

259
00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,000
Speaker 2: mother superior, they have one, but she rolls in like

260
00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,640
Speaker 2: a mother superior at large, just like a floating mother Mary. Yeah,

261
00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:49,600
Speaker 2: I don't get any totally. She has no gag. So

262
00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,760
Speaker 2: what do we know about this fake mother Mary is

263
00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,959
Speaker 2: about all this? We don't know her name because the

264
00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,440
Speaker 2: press didn't tell her name, but we do know that

265
00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,320
Speaker 2: she also had no official church paperwork. Okay, right, she's

266
00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,080
Speaker 2: not like working like strong on this con. It's all charm.

267
00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:05,040
Speaker 5: Yeah right.

268
00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,839
Speaker 2: So she also had no counterfeit IDs of her own.

269
00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,520
Speaker 2: She has just her own paperwork. She's able to be

270
00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,160
Speaker 2: identified by her legit ID.

271
00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,600
Speaker 3: She has her real idea.

272
00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,000
Speaker 2: Hidden on her but yeah, but it's and the rest

273
00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,119
Speaker 2: is just well, it's just silver.

274
00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,160
Speaker 3: Tongue, like, let me see your ID, you know, she.

275
00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,840
Speaker 2: Said nun nobody questions her, right, So at this point,

276
00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,760
Speaker 2: this fake mother Mary, Oh, I forgot to tell you.

277
00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,599
Speaker 2: She's originally from a place called Aquaturme.

278
00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,640
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not mistaken.

279
00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,480
Speaker 2: Waterfall, I thought, and I thought that's what it meant,

280
00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:41,600
Speaker 2: and I looked it up. It actually means thermal waters. Interesting,

281
00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,840
Speaker 2: the opposite, yes, exactly. Apparently the town had sulfuric hot springs.

282
00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:47,480
Speaker 3: Cool.

283
00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't want to give you a mistranslations. I

284
00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:50,920
Speaker 2: thought I knew what it was like, let me actually

285
00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,120
Speaker 2: go look this up. But like Elizabeth would, So this

286
00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,320
Speaker 2: fake mother Mary from the stinky sulfuric springs of aquaturmy right.

287
00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,000
Speaker 3: Or the deep relaxing hus good point.

288
00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,800
Speaker 2: I'm allergic to sulfurrus. I'm a little bit opinion.

289
00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

290
00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,040
Speaker 2: So anyway, at this point, she's got like, you know,

291
00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,360
Speaker 2: she's operating purely off of her charm, her silver tongue,

292
00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,880
Speaker 2: the fact that she's from these areas. She's able to, oh, yes,

293
00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,840
Speaker 2: I know this place, right, So she's not she's from

294
00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,360
Speaker 2: like like I don't know, America and trying to hang

295
00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,920
Speaker 2: out as a nun in a way. And then she

296
00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,400
Speaker 2: runs into one woman who this her campaigns of charm

297
00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,160
Speaker 2: and kindness or you know, please inviting kindness I should say,

298
00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:27,200
Speaker 2: doesn't work.

299
00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:27,480
Speaker 5: Right.

300
00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,920
Speaker 2: She's a she's not hard hearted, but she's your type

301
00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,080
Speaker 2: of person. She's extra curious. Okay, Yeah, she's a little

302
00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,560
Speaker 2: bit of a busybody's she had a taste for mystery, Elizabeth,

303
00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,400
Speaker 2: and she likes to solve them. This fake mother Mary, right,

304
00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,560
Speaker 2: she rocks up to this woman's convent catches this nun's attention.

305
00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,920
Speaker 2: This sister fully you know, piques her interest. Now she's like,

306
00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,480
Speaker 2: is this none for real? I don't know about her

307
00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,720
Speaker 2: starts doing what you do, which is she starts listening. Yeah, right,

308
00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:52,600
Speaker 2: then that's key.

309
00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,880
Speaker 3: She's like me. She trusts no one, that the Lord.

310
00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,760
Speaker 3: She believes everyone's Mary and Mary. Yeah more first and foremost, So.

311
00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,600
Speaker 2: This Scooby dow Ass mystery solovn nun. Right, she's from

312
00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,280
Speaker 2: a Benedictine convent. If that tells you little something about it.

313
00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,880
Speaker 2: You know, the Benedictines. They don't play, well, they don't play.

314
00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:17,840
Speaker 2: It's a pretty serious order, right, A little more lucy, see,

315
00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,760
Speaker 2: I don't know. But also she's a homegirl. She's a local,

316
00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,640
Speaker 2: she's from that area, so this is like home tower.

317
00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. She's Jenny from the block, right, sister Jenny.

318
00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,960
Speaker 2: So these two local girls have a tete on tede

319
00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,520
Speaker 2: of subterfuge and fakery. She's pretending that she's not on

320
00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,240
Speaker 2: her and then she's like pretending that no one knows

321
00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,920
Speaker 2: who I am. So the two of them are both pretending. Yeah, exactly.

322
00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,560
Speaker 2: She gets this, this faint whiff of bull sugar and

323
00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:42,320
Speaker 2: just sticks with it.

324
00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:42,520
Speaker 6: Right.

325
00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,840
Speaker 2: She starts paying attention to every story. This fake mother

326
00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,480
Speaker 2: Mary drops every single one right, just like, oh you would,

327
00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,920
Speaker 2: And now what do you think this does? It doesn't

328
00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,800
Speaker 2: make her long, It just you know. Eventually she starts

329
00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,400
Speaker 2: as listening to everything, she's remembering it all. She starts

330
00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,760
Speaker 2: comparing things. She very quickly has just a list of contradictions,

331
00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,280
Speaker 2: like you couldn't be in these two places at the

332
00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,160
Speaker 2: same time, you ain't padre Pio. So this mother Colombo

333
00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,440
Speaker 2: directly questions, Fake mother Mary just sits her down and goes, okay,

334
00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,360
Speaker 2: so if you were here, how could you also be

335
00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,640
Speaker 2: here if you were that kind of stuff. She knows

336
00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,400
Speaker 2: like she's at this point, she knows she's right. She

337
00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,560
Speaker 2: sees her like melt. So she doesn't completely confess. The

338
00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,440
Speaker 2: fake mother Mary doesn't give up the act. But there's

339
00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,160
Speaker 2: no you know, she can no longer pretend that she

340
00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,240
Speaker 2: is the woman she says and she claims she is.

341
00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,520
Speaker 2: So this mother Colombo goes to the local police rats

342
00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,880
Speaker 2: her out and she's like, oh, you got to come

343
00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,160
Speaker 2: to the convent. We got her live one right, the

344
00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,120
Speaker 2: police they roll out to the convent. Italian blues and

345
00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,160
Speaker 2: two is Elizabeth. Right, they pull up. There's no time

346
00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,040
Speaker 2: for fake mother Mary to run. Apparently Mother Columbo like

347
00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,760
Speaker 2: slipped out on the slide because the cops surprise her

348
00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,480
Speaker 2: the convent. They rest her life. I just love the

349
00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,200
Speaker 2: idea of all these like. So she tries to give

350
00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,800
Speaker 2: the cops answers for who she really is, why she's there.

351
00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,640
Speaker 2: They fail her lies fail. She's like, look on my

352
00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,040
Speaker 2: level with you, I'm not really the mother superior. No,

353
00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,560
Speaker 2: So the cops take her to her cell at the convent,

354
00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,640
Speaker 2: and you know where she sleeps, and she keeps all

355
00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,040
Speaker 2: of her stuff and all that is there her a

356
00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,119
Speaker 2: little tiny bedroom right her dorm room. So the cops go.

357
00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,840
Speaker 2: They find her ID squirreled away the hidden ideas. It's

358
00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:16,439
Speaker 2: not counterfeit, it's real, but it's stolen. She did have.

359
00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,800
Speaker 2: I didn't say it was counterfeit. It's stolen. But this

360
00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,080
Speaker 2: all the cops need because now they have an official crime.

361
00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,760
Speaker 2: So they arrest her for having the stolen ID and

362
00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,840
Speaker 2: then they sorted it out. Once they have her in possession,

363
00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,239
Speaker 2: purp walked the nun out of the handcuffs right, and

364
00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,680
Speaker 2: once she's in police custody obviously. Then you know, as

365
00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,560
Speaker 2: they say, it doesn't take long to figure out. She

366
00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,160
Speaker 2: gets sent back to Sicily to face justice. And while

367
00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,520
Speaker 2: we're talking about Sicily, I have another one for you,

368
00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,720
Speaker 2: but the second little break and then hold that thought

369
00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,920
Speaker 2: in mind and dip back to Sicily.

370
00:17:46,040 --> 00:18:09,439
Speaker 5: Let's do it, Elizabeth, So you want to get back

371
00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:10,080
Speaker 5: to Cicily.

372
00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,119
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a quick one for you. It's it's another

373
00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,720
Speaker 2: appetite if we're going to get back to the nuns.

374
00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,280
Speaker 2: Because this one is about a priest. Okay, but he

375
00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,440
Speaker 2: was also a real deal Sicilian mafia boss whoa yeah,

376
00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,240
Speaker 2: his name is Bernardo Provenzano.

377
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:26,879
Speaker 3: So he wasn't a real priest.

378
00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:27,119
Speaker 2: No.

379
00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,440
Speaker 3: I was so stuked that maybe a real priest now.

380
00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:36,119
Speaker 2: Yeah they are, but not this guy. So yeah, but

381
00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,000
Speaker 2: actually he did be one better because he dressed like

382
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,560
Speaker 2: a bishop. He Italian. You know, he's like, I want

383
00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:42,360
Speaker 2: to look good.

384
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,320
Speaker 3: It dressed for the job you want.

385
00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,680
Speaker 2: So this Sicilian mafia boss we're alling around dressed like

386
00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,119
Speaker 2: a bishop. He was on the lamb for forty three years,

387
00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,640
Speaker 2: forty three dressed as a bishop. I guess it's hard

388
00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,200
Speaker 2: to pick a bip about sister. So he finally gets

389
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,359
Speaker 2: arrested in two thouh and six. Right, so this is

390
00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:06,320
Speaker 2: not a bishop Bernardo Provenzano, classic old fashioned mafia boss. Right,

391
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,760
Speaker 2: He's a connector. He's got powerful relationships. He solves problems

392
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 2: for people. You know, he got don don godfather, then

393
00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,080
Speaker 2: you do you know he's that guy he broke his

394
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,880
Speaker 2: piece amongst his rivals and his capo's right, but meanwhile

395
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,680
Speaker 2: dressed as a bishop. Huh yeah, but not always. This

396
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,159
Speaker 2: is like it's not his Monday to Sunday. Look, this

397
00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,159
Speaker 2: is like when he's going to be out and possibly spotted,

398
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 2: when he's sitting around the house, not dressed like a press.

399
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,560
Speaker 2: When he leaves to go to like a meeting, you know, boom.

400
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,040
Speaker 3: He put the other guys out there.

401
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 2: They're all at the table.

402
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,400
Speaker 3: And exactly that's amazing.

403
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,920
Speaker 2: And he does this for forty three years.

404
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 3: They just all think that, like he's a little special.

405
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, do they get that's why he

406
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:48,920
Speaker 3: does it?

407
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,199
Speaker 2: They all I figured they know, yeah, I figure they

408
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 2: hit on the bit.

409
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 3: You know, he's a little eccentric. He's a strange one.

410
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 3: But you know what, he's an earner.

411
00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,359
Speaker 2: He's not only an earner but I mean he's like

412
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 2: he's running the shop. Everyone's got to respond to him.

413
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,399
Speaker 2: They got to kiss the bishop's ring, so that all

414
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 2: busy all the way. The cops don't have a lot

415
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 2: of to go off of. All they have is one

416
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,439
Speaker 2: mugshot of him over all these forty three years, so

417
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 2: they don't really quite know what he looks like. And

418
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,160
Speaker 2: these guys aren't telling right. So anyway, he also, though

419
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 2: kind of lived the ascetic life of a monk, really

420
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 2: drove beat her cars when he would leave the house.

421
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,120
Speaker 2: His house was a shepherd's hut high in the hills

422
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 2: above the town of Corleone in Sicily.

423
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:28,360
Speaker 3: No.

424
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he never used computers or a phone. That's why,

425
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 2: part of why he never got caught. So he's just

426
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 2: up there in like a shepherd's hut above Corleone, is

427
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,360
Speaker 2: telling people, running things and.

428
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 3: Wait, so what's he earning all this money for.

429
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 2: He had one luxury. He had his wife delivered clothes

430
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 2: to him up on the mountain, so she would go

431
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 2: out get all these really fancy like silks, ties and stuff.

432
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 2: And he's up there in the shepherds by himself in

433
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 2: the shepherd's.

434
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 3: Dress, raising the money and giving it to his family.

435
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 2: I imagine he's doing all sorts of stuff. I mean,

436
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 2: what does anybody need money for after a while, Elizabeth,

437
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 2: who knows whatever?

438
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 3: It is question because there are a lot of and

439
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 3: not a lot, but there are people in this world

440
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 3: who have more money than they will be able to

441
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 3: spend in a lifetime.

442
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,880
Speaker 2: That's very true. Sister doesn't and there's.

443
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 3: No point in that. But I'm just thinking, like, he's

444
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 3: committing crimes for for what?

445
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 2: For the game?

446
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah.

447
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but money is more than just money, you know.

448
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 2: It's a lot of things. It's it's power, it's prestige,

449
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: it's competition, it's the ability to make people be fearful

450
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 2: or listen to you. You got to keep it going.

451
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 2: You got all these people to feed. It's a lot

452
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 2: of things, I guess.

453
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

454
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 2: Anyway, this phony bishop, he's finally arrest in two thousand

455
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 2: and six in Palermo. Now, the Italian police they show

456
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 2: up dressed in ski masks. This is not because it's

457
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 2: cold and they're skiing. Is to protect their identities, right, They

458
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: do that with the mafia, so they swarm over the.

459
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 3: Mass.

460
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's a totally different reason though, so he

461
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 2: gets paraded before the camera. Bernardo Provenzano, big grin for

462
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 2: the camera, his first mug shot in three years, and

463
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 2: he smiles like, oh proud, like a real bishop. Hey,

464
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: so there you go, Lizabeth. Then a the little appetizer

465
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 2: for you. Now this next one, because I want to

466
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 2: point out nuns aren't the outlaws. I'm gonna save that

467
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 2: for one, for a little bit. I got one more,

468
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: tiny one. I want to tell you. This one's about

469
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 2: Adriano so mayor Okay, no relation to justice, Okay, so

470
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 2: Mayor right. Yeah. Now, back in two thousand and nine,

471
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: this New Jersey con artist gets his hands on a

472
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 2: phone list of nuns in priests living on the island

473
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 2: of Puerto Rico. Well sounds like it doesn't sound like

474
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: the first sentence of a novel. This New Jersey too.

475
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: In two thousand and nine, this New Jersey connard has

476
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: got his hands on the phone list of nuns in

477
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 2: priests living on the island of Puerto Rico. So anyway,

478
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: he starts calling around until he finds a live one. Right,

479
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: an elderly nun from the Dominican Order of the Sisters

480
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: of Rosarya Fatima. Okay, Adriana Mayor starts spitting his rap

481
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 2: addr and not like a freestyle I don't want your picture.

482
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 2: He's like telling her his con. Yeah, fox is what

483
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 2: you got, sister now. But the con is simple. He

484
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 2: tells the nun that he's a priest from New Jersey

485
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: and he has strange news. One of his parishioners has

486
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 2: passed away. That's not the strange part. The parishioner has

487
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 2: a sizeable personal fortune. Still not the strange part. But

488
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 2: this parishioners decided to leave it to the nun. In specifically,

489
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: she is the beneficiary of a two point one million

490
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: dollar estate. Yeah, and the nun is like, oh, praise

491
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: the Lord or whatever, right stoke to hear the good news.

492
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 2: And then Adriano so tomoy or see springs the trap.

493
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: He informs the nun that to process this bequeathed fortune,

494
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: she will need to wire money to a company handling

495
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: the will and the estor.

496
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 3: So this is just the Nigerian prince scamp.

497
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 2: Pretty much with a priest.

498
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 3: Interesting.

499
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: So it's a New Jersey based company that he has

500
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: called Flex Account. That company will handle the legal fees

501
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: and the taxes and so forth, so that she can

502
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: have the bequeathed fortune transferred to Puerto Rico, except there

503
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: is no company called flex account. There also is no

504
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: dead parishioner. As you probably guessed, it's all lies. The

505
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 2: elderly nun goes for it, believes them. Oh no, she's

506
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 2: powerful belief, right, She's well practiced in believing things. She's

507
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: already thinking about what she can do with the money, though,

508
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 2: because she's a nun, she doesn't want for herself. She

509
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: wants to buy She's not like the Belgian nuns who

510
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: wanted to buy a fellet to luxury. Belgian girls had

511
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: the right idea, but these is not sisters of the poor.

512
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: Claire's this She's from the Fatima's sisters. Right. So she's like,

513
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: you know what I'm gonna do. I'm going to do

514
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: good work. I'm going to build a new religious community

515
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: in Haiti. Great idea in terms of like, if you

516
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 2: can do some charity work, that's where you should be doing.

517
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: I would think, So what does this gullible elderly nun do? Next?

518
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 2: She does what any god fearing none would do. Elizabeth.

519
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 2: She prays for help, and then she asks people she

520
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: knows for donations and then she borrows money from other

521
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: nuns as well as from family friends, parishioners in Puerto Rico.

522
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 2: Once she gathers up nearly a million.

523
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 3: Dollars, Wait, how much was the was the inherent two

524
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 3: point one? And she has to a.

525
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 2: Million a lot of taxes in America?

526
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 3: What the she's in America?

527
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 2: Well, I know I didn't say that. She wasn't what

528
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: she's saying, like, you know, burying somebody probate is all

529
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: expensive in America, we don't do any So she wires

530
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: the money to Atlantic City. Why Atlantic City? Great question, Elizabeth, Like,

531
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: was it.

532
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: A specific casino in Atlantic City?

533
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Andrew Andreana, So to my arm bit of a gambler,

534
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: he had debts, the kind that get your face to

535
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: arranged by professional rangers. Oh yeah, he's not a good guy.

536
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: So he also talked the elderly nun and des sending

537
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: it in multiple transfers. So she's sending like bits and

538
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 2: bits and borrowing more and sending more, borrowing more, sending more.

539
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 2: Gets it up to me.

540
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: I'm sure he's spinning it is. I'm gonna do you

541
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 3: a kindness. You don't have to get it all at once.

542
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 2: He's a priest. He's not asking for anything. Remember he's

543
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: a priest. So this comeback so to my r father,

544
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 2: So to my r he contacts his none mark. He

545
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: tells her it's not enough. I need more money for

546
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 2: processing the will whatever. She's maybe getting a little suspicious.

547
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 2: He can't tell us. He tells her, no, no, there's

548
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: a snake in the grass. Right, But I could have

549
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: put this in biblical terms. We got a snake in

550
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 2: the grass. So there's some other party that hopes to

551
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: contest the will and fight for this fortune. The dead parishioner,

552
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: he's got this greedy son. He's trying to get his

553
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: hands on the two point one million that he bequeathed

554
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: to you to do good works with. So the nuns goes, Okay,

555
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 2: what do I have to do to do? You know,

556
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: so we can get the money that God bequeathed me

557
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 2: or whatever. He's like, oh yo, She's like, you know

558
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: it's two point one million dollars. I could really use that.

559
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: So he's like, just gonna need a little bit more money.

560
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: So she sends up more money and.

561
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: Then she now more than one million.

562
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 2: No, she's like approaching one million. She just keeps sending money,

563
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: keeps sending money.

564
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 3: She could have done a lot of good with.

565
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 2: The money she was able the.

566
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: Money she's shaken out of everybody, and that then maybe

567
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: she's thinking, well, this man's son should maybe get them.

568
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna argue she gets the nun does get reluctant, right,

569
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: And then so Sodomayor has to threaten her, right, and

570
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 2: he's like, you know, look, you send me the money, right,

571
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: And what he threatens her with his media attention, he's like,

572
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: you don't want the sisterhood to look foolish if it

573
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: comes out that you're like involved in all this grass

574
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: being for money with this dead guy's son. So when

575
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: he doesn't get the result he wants from that, he

576
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 2: then threatens her that I may have to go to

577
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: the police and report you.

578
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 6: Right.

579
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 2: I don't know for what, but it works well enough

580
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 2: that she's like still trying to keep low and not

581
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: like trying to have it all blow over something or

582
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: at least maybe pray that something changes. Anyway. The elderly

583
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 2: none starts contacting people who were loander the money and

584
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: asks for more money so she can make this work.

585
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 2: She just needs to look, I see a little bit

586
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: more she's like to e scratch. So yeah, so her investors,

587
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: one of them is smart, one of them is suspicious.

588
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: One of them contacts the FBI. Okay, all right, and

589
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 2: then he tells them all about what's going down to

590
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: the convent. Yeah, Sodomayor has fleeced her out of almost

591
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 2: a million dollars at this point. Doesn't take the FBI

592
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: long to track him down, doesn't take the sw They

593
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: indict him. He tries to run. I'm out of here, right.

594
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: They catch him the next day in Las Vegas.

595
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: Because he's got all these loyalty points in casino.

596
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: Money, he's got to go in the cash out somewhere.

597
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: Where do I go to? You know, hard Rock and Florida?

598
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: Do I go to Vegas? So what was his punishment? Well?

599
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: Did the nuns forgive him all great questions? Elizabeth?

600
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 3: Thank you?

601
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: They may have. I don't know. I'm going to keep

602
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: guessing that they did. But I can tell you what

603
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: the FBI did.

604
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: They did not forget.

605
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: They did not care about the forgiveness part.

606
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 3: No.

607
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 6: No.

608
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: In twenty thirteen, Sodamorar was tried, convicted, and sentenced to.

609
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: Five hundred years.

610
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 2: Eighteen years eighteen in federal prison. Yeah, and he had

611
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: to pay restitution for these stolen million dollars.

612
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 3: Oh that's good.

613
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so now see it again. But that's okay, Elizabeth,

614
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: Now that you're all primed and press nuns, the story

615
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: I'm about to tell you is the hard Gambling Nuns

616
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: of Torrance, California.

617
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: Let's back this up, The hard gambling Nuns of.

618
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: Torrance, California. Yeah, this one takes place at a Catholic

619
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: school in Los Angeles and features a nun who was

620
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: the principal of the K through eighth grade school. Sure,

621
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: and this homegirl, she had a gambling problem, capital g

622
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: gambling problem, like a capital o MG gambling problem. Yeah.

623
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: The school is called Saint James and it's in La

624
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: as I said, in the neighborhood of Torrance. Now, the

625
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: school had about three hundred students. These students enjoyed a

626
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: very traditional Catholic school education along that's a big yeah,

627
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: pretty good. So.

628
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

629
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: They classes of language, classes, art classes, music, sport, took

630
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: full and rich curriculum. The school's motto was quote preparing, confident,

631
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: competent and carrying Catholic citizens. Oh okay, yeah, inter Sister

632
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: Mary Margaret Kreiper, the hard gambling nun and school principle

633
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: of Saint James.

634
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: Now what kind of gambling does she do?

635
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: All gambling? Oh, Sister Mary Margaret. She earned a bachelor's

636
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: degree in sociology from Mount Saint Mary's College in Los Angeles.

637
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: She does student teaching in the la parishes. She becomes

638
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: a Catholic school teacher at twenty eight. Then the sister

639
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: starts bouncing around the West. So Sister Mary Margaret, she

640
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: teaches fourth grade at Saint Patrick's in Pascoe, Washington. Then

641
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: she's over teaching fifth grade, and Our Lady of Las Vegas,

642
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: and then Samwich. Between those gigs, this sister was working

643
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: as the principle. It's Saint Stanislaw in Lewiston, Idaho. Keep

644
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: that in mind. Eventually, this parapatetic nun settles in Saint

645
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: James School in Torrance, Right, Sister Mary Margaret, She's forty

646
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: seven years old when she arrives. At this point, she's

647
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: been teaching or working as a principal for nineteen years.

648
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: Just a veteran in the game. Saint James. They're happy

649
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: to have her. Sister Mary Margaret becomes the principal of

650
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: the school. She grabs hold of the power, never lets go.

651
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: She runs the schools or a little private fiefdom. But

652
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: everyone's into it. I mean, it's just a powerful nun.

653
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: Everyone's like a kiss to it. It wasn't weird. She

654
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: takes her professional and personal hand in developing lesson plans.

655
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: She carefully considers her staff, she reviews them often, she

656
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: picks well. She's also, as I said, in charge of

657
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: hiring but also firing, so she offers teachers annual contracts,

658
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: so every year she renews, which I guess is pretty

659
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: standard for the Catholic and private schools. But this also

660
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: gives her the power to renew or not. So she

661
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: does have some obvious powers of persuasion, powers of the purse.

662
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: So and also speaking of she has control of the

663
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: school's finances, the multiple bank accounts, the tuition, the charity donations.

664
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: She's got funds on funds, streams on loose money everywhere.

665
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: All the walkithan money everywhere.

666
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of raffles you do walk Oh yeah,

667
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: all of it everything you can name.

668
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

669
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: So the temptation though of all this loose money walkathon

670
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: cast sitting around is too great for old Sister Mary Margaret,

671
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: because at this point I should have you meet our

672
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: other larcen This nun, Sister Lana Chang, ten years younger

673
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: than Sister Mary Margaret. Sister Laana earned her master's in

674
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: education from Loyola Marymount, LMU and Lay. She's also a

675
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: veteran Catholic school educator, hired in nineteen ninety six to

676
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: teach at Saint James. Sister Mary Margaret got there in

677
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: eighty eight, so by this point Sister Lana she'd been

678
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: teaching for twenty five years. Another veteran in the game

679
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: when she shows up yea in ninety six. Right, interesting

680
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: thing to take note. For three years, Sister Laana was

681
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: teaching at a Catholic school in Lewiston, Idaho. Okay, I

682
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: want to guess which.

683
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: One the whatever the one should Yeah, what did I say?

684
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: I keep note Saint Stanislaus. Oh, Yes, in Lewis and idohs.

685
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: So that's where Sister Mary Margaret was the principal and

686
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: the Sister Lana was a teacher for three years exactly,

687
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: so they were there at the same time. Now, that

688
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: may be the easy answer for how sister Lana got

689
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: a teaching job at Saint James under sister Mary Margaret

690
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: may also be the answer to why the two women

691
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: lived together in Torrance. The two nuns, they shared a townhouse.

692
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: They were roommates for twenty years. They worked together, they

693
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: were about to retire together. They put a nice deposit

694
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: down on a three bedroom, two bath rental property. It

695
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: was most likely going to be their home for retirement.

696
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: Now it's none of my business, but this story does

697
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: have some points that as a kid, if this was

698
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: my teacher and the principal and I went to a

699
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: Saint James, so like I was thinking about this all

700
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: the time, I would have had some questions like, Okay,

701
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: you're telling me these two nuns, they've been roommates for

702
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: twenty years. These two nuns who work together and a

703
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: school teachers, they travel together, they have planned to retire together.

704
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a couple, right, And people would be like,

705
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: why do you say that. I'm like, those are not

706
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: the nuns?

707
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 3: Do that?

708
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's a couple. I don't know, y'all, I

709
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: don't know.

710
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: I just the retirement thing. All I went to Catholic

711
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: school was taught by nuns. They all retired to like

712
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: the the orders retirement home.

713
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, not together, not in the apartment, townhouse.

714
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: Somewhere, like, yeah, that's a little bit just I'm saying

715
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: I hate Look, no.

716
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: Judgment, I'm not even saying that. I'm saying that they're

717
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: they're already I would guess hiding something, you know, Like,

718
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that they should have to hide something.

719
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: But as a kid, I'm like, wait a minute, y'all,

720
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: come off.

721
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: I'm going on.

722
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: I would have been a little suspicious of these two nuns.

723
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying, quote unquote, Really, I find it

724
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: interesting that none of the adults ever had any questions

725
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: about these nuns, like, really the ones who are retiring

726
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: together after And also I should also remind you this

727
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: woman's a hardcore gambler. That comes off of you, right,

728
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: This is a criminal couple. If I was a.

729
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 7: Kid, they don't know it like I would have known,

730
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 7: because you know, you know, what's far more interesting than

731
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 7: their personal life is the hardcore gambling part of this.

732
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: Because now let's get into the weirdness.

733
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

734
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: In March twenty eighteen, sister Mary Margaret wrote a letter

735
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: to the parents of Saint James right, explaining that you know,

736
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: quote I do not receive a salary from my service

737
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: as principal of Saint James School. As a member of

738
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: a religious community, I receive a stipend for my work.

739
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: The same is true for Sister Laana.

740
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: And yet they have money to put down on a place.

741
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, not only that. Uh it's curious though, that

742
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: heat shosseled. But oh yes, since Sister Laana too.

743
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just gonna go around waving all the red flags.

744
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 2: But she didn't say for all the nuns of my order,

745
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: this is true. She's like, also is true for Sister Laana.

746
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 2: Just the Yeah, I thought that as a kid, I

747
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: would find that interesting anyway. So now that got my

748
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: few suspicions out there about these two horror gambling nuns.

749
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I forgot to mention they also always take

750
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: trips to Las Vegas Tahoe Reno together. Wait, with the

751
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: roommate of twenty years. They constantly take trips together to

752
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 2: Tahoe Reno, Las Vegas. I'm a kid, I'm gonna put

753
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 2: that together. I'm just saying, Well, I just I.

754
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: Don't know nuns who like vacationed like that.

755
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. None of this is right. I

756
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: would be suspicious if they weren't the nuns in my school.

757
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: So but yes, whatever, people don't want to ask questions, right,

758
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 2: They don't want to look past the fact they got

759
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: habits on. And that's what I think I'm trying to

760
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 2: point out is that they were able to do all

761
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: this whatever they wanted to hide because nobody wanted to

762
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: look past the habit. Why I'm getting my shirt so

763
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: you're seeing. But also because people, some people are generous

764
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: of heart, like you, they wanted to go. Maybe these

765
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: nuns need to cut loose, you know, maybe yeah, but

766
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: that's why they like to.

767
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 3: Travel and then becoming less and less generous.

768
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: But Sister Mary Margaret and Sister Lana did have a convenient,

769
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: workable cover story because you know, the rumors were that

770
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: eighth grade teacher Sister Lana had had a rich uncle

771
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: and he was still alive, and he was assumed to

772
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: be the one paying for the two nuns to go

773
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: have fun in Vegas, Reno and Tahoe. Okay, so that's

774
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 2: why everyone's like, oh, yeah, he's paying for the nuns,

775
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: because I think works so hard and God bless them all. Right, Well, yeah,

776
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: now there was also another reason to raise some suspicions.

777
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: Sister Mary Margaret also hosted an annual Vegas Night at

778
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: the school. I was just about to say it was

779
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: for charity. The parents would get dressed up and play

780
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: creepies and deep car dealers. And now, as I told you,

781
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 2: I went to a Saint James. Literally, we also had

782
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: a Vegas Night. So I was like, all right, okay,

783
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: this is fair. I mean, I'm not gonna be too

784
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 2: suspicious about that part, but it would have stood out

785
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 2: a little. So let's take a little break and when

786
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: we get back, I'm gonna take you to Vegas Night

787
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: at Saint James Elizabeth.

788
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: Oh God, I can't wait.

789
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: And we're backy thever Becky. So as I was telling you,

790
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: a Vegas Knight Saint James, Torrence, California, this place is

791
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: like they would do it up, like they would like

792
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: really do it up. Like one year, the one of

793
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: the parents, so they worked at a party supply store.

794
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: They got Sister Mary Margaret some right proper card tables

795
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: and card shoes, like you know, so you're dealing out

796
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: of a card shoe? What sh't do in Vegas? Real

797
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: Vegas Night? Kids?

798
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that her hands would stop shaking.

799
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: The one funny thing about these Vegas Nights, so Sister

800
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: Mary Margaret always seemed to get lucky, just a lucky

801
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: ass nun. So she had this tendency of win is

802
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, right, all kinds of stuff though, right,

803
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: which is, you know whatever, It isn't the best look

804
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 2: for a principle to be hosting Vegas night. She keeps winning.

805
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: But you know, also people are like kind of happy

806
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: for it because the nun is like, oh, we don't

807
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: pay them enough anyway. So but when I say that,

808
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: you know, it was fun and lucky and all that,

809
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: and God works in mysterious ways and all that. It

810
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: was also like, once again, if I was a kid,

811
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: I would have been a little curious about because like,

812
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 2: for instance, one time Sister Mary Margaret she want a raffle, right,

813
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: she also would win a card, whatever game she want,

814
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 2: but it raffles. She won a red radio flyer wagon

815
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: and I would have been eyeball on that. Right then

816
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: that's obviously not for a child because it was loaded

817
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: up with bottles of booze.

818
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 3: Wait what yeh. First of all, she should as the principal,

819
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: she should not be entering the raffle.

820
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: Right, thank you. She just can't keep her hands off

821
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: that action. Warm my hands, my mama, warm her hands

822
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: on that action. So she hears gambling, She's like, come on,

823
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: she's got other kids, like go put ten on that right,

824
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: give me some tickets.

825
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: So I love that they were raffling off a wagon,

826
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 3: Red Flyer, do you fall off that wagon?

827
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: You have the booze in the web. Yeah, I imagine

828
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, nice Irish whiskey and so far. Yeah, donated.

829
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: It's a grand prize for the annual Harvest festival. And

830
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: she wanted so listen, I'm telling your sister Mary Margaret

831
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 2: went and everything. As I said, let's be real about this.

832
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: We're both Catholics. Catholics like to gamble. Yeah, there's always

833
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: church raffles, super Bowl betting pools.

834
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: There's also an elementary school raffle, including bottles of heart alcohol.

835
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: Is such a Catholic.

836
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: Very Catholic too, I don't want to say everybody. Yeah,

837
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: that's also right. I mean I know about weekly poker

838
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 2: games in a basement of a Catholic church. You know,

839
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: there's like and if I think a father went there,

840
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: most of the.

841
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: Time, Columbo Club and all that.

842
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the Nights of Columbus. Oh yeah, so what

843
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 2: do we what do we know about how sister Mary

844
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 2: Margaret ran her Vegas Knights, Right, that's probably what would

845
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: have raised eyebrows. And if I was a kid, I

846
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: would have been raising my eyebrows. Is a well, you know,

847
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: rather than me tell you about a Vegas night, Yeah,

848
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: I'd like you to close your eyes.

849
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 5: As a club, I'd like you to picture it.

850
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: It's a Friday night in Torrance, California, in the spring

851
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: of twenty eleven. It's a pleasant evening outside, there's a

852
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: starry sky above. Inside and Father Jim's Saloon, laughing and

853
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: smiling faces have given way to focused stairs. At the

854
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: moment you are among them, Elizabeth standing there with the

855
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: haybales and country Western decorations in Father Jim's saloon. The

856
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: saloon is not a real drinking establishment, which helps explain

857
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: why there are so many children in this saloon. You see,

858
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 2: Father Jim's Saloon is the multipurpose room of Saint James School,

859
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: and this is a charity event. It's Vegas Night at

860
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: Saint James. Doesn't make sense anyway, Elizabeth. You are a

861
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: Catholic educator, a fifth grade teacher at Saint James Catholic School.

862
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: They're after hours watching other teachers and your school's principal

863
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: gamble against the parents of the school children. Specifically, you're

864
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: watching Sister Mary Margaret hold it down in a wicked

865
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: game of Texas hold them. She's sitting at the card

866
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 2: table wearing a green gambler's visor. She's focused. The nun

867
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: is about it because you see Sister Mary Margaret is

868
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: battling in the final. Her opponent is a parent of

869
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: some of the school children. Jack Alexander. He also volunteers

870
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 2: and coaches a few sports for the school. Nice guys.

871
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: There's thousands of dollars in charity money in the pot

872
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: right now. It's the final, a pile of doll her

873
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: full poker chips. Jack Alexander doesn't want to bet too big.

874
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to scare off Sister Mary Margaret. Now,

875
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: not when he's holding the hand he's got. You watch

876
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: him intently, so does Sister Mary Margaret. You shift your

877
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: focus to your principle. She's all business. The nun has

878
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: got a good poker face. Parents standing around whisper about

879
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: what may happen next. The dealer lays down the flop.

880
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: The cards on the table clearly seem to give Jack

881
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: Alexander a shot, a confidence because he is holding a

882
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: queen high flush. Sister Mary Margaret's face implacable, unreadable. She's good,

883
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: her poker face is impenetrable, she calls. After that, the

884
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: dealer flips over an ace. This causes an instant reaction

885
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: of oohs an interested oz from the crowd watching this.

886
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: Texas hold him final, you are riveted to the game. Meanwhile,

887
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: Jack Alexander sizes up Sister Mary Margaret. He imagines what

888
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: hand could the nun be holding. He's guessing she may

889
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: have three of a kind. Jack Alexander lays down his bet.

890
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: He pushes more poker chips into the pot. The dealer

891
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: goes on, it's the last card flip, it's a queen.

892
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: If you focus on Jack Alexander, you can almost hear

893
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: him thinking he's not at all sure what Sister Mary

894
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: Margaret is holding in her hands. Could be a two pair,

895
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: maybe it's a clean high full house. You watch Jack

896
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: Alexander glance back down at his own hand. Then you

897
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: see him look back up a devilish glint in his eyes.

898
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: He says, as dramatically as possible, I'm all in. That

899
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 2: sends the crowd into hysterics. The kids are going wild.

900
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: The parents react with wild whoops and hollers. Everyone loves it.

901
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: Not typical of a poker final. The coach is he

902
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: about to beat Sister Mary Margaret, But you look back

903
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: at her, still implacable, her face of fortreits of quietude.

904
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: And then Sister Mary Margaret speaks up, me too, She's

905
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: all in. The crowd of schoolcaates losing. The parents go

906
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: crazy again. Jack Alexander lays down his cards. It's a

907
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: queen high flush, all diamonds. His hands reach forward to

908
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: claim his pot of winnings. But then you see a small,

909
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: tight smile on Sister Mary Margaret's lips. She lays down

910
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 2: her cards, an ace and a queen. She has a

911
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: full house, three queens over aces. Oh my goodness. The

912
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: crowd of school kids parents go haywire. Sister Mary Margaret

913
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 2: has done it again. You shake your head, save yourself. Goddamn,

914
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: she's good at cards.

915
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: So is she cheating?

916
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 2: No, she's she's a gambler. Yeah, she's a Vegas whale.

917
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: I mean, remember she's she's swimming with guppies this this

918
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: Vegas night. So yeah, anyway, it's a sister Lana and

919
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: Sister Mary Margaret. This is what they're doing when imagine

920
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: them in Vegas. Imagine in Vegas. And she dressed like

921
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: a nun in Vegas. I don't think. Maybe she's got

922
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 2: the sensible like sweater on. Well, this is the white

923
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: button up shirt.

924
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: Very few nuns in this country wear a habit anymore.

925
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, come out though, Yeah.

926
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 3: She probably has like a you know card again.

927
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: And yeah, what's the little crop hat they wear now

928
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: it's like a nun's hat. No, the nurse's hat.

929
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 3: Oh, they don't wear that.

930
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: You'll see you, I see them in the airports. So anyway,

931
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: there's this story has a core theme I find fascinating. Right,

932
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: going back to my priest shirt and priest callar for

933
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: domestic flights, that's the theme. Right. Everyone looks past the wrapper,

934
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: look at how she's gambling a bit. We're like, oh, wow,

935
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: she's going to Vegas all the time. They're like, huh,

936
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: By the way, this school has money problems all the time, obviously, right,

937
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: because she's taking.

938
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: Money from the school yeah, so.

939
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: The parents, no matter what they see, it's Saint James.

940
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: They never grow suspicious, constant budget problems, charity fundraisers all

941
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: the damn time, can't get an awning for the kids.

942
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: They got to sit out in the sun. Oh yeah, yeah,

943
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: but they just assume it's money troubles for the church

944
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: here or something. I don't know. She's able to run

945
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: a decades long con and bezzling nearly a million dollars

946
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 2: from these people.

947
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 3: Wow.

948
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, the parents, they just thought she was one hell

949
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: of a good card player.

950
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: So anyway, they're a poor, poor money manager.

951
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: With the energy of like a sweaty face degenerate gambler. Right, anyway,

952
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: do you remember the two thousand and eight Super Bowl. No,

953
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: it was an epic game. New England Patriots the New

954
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: York Giants, the Tom Brady led Patriots. They were a

955
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: twelve point favorite. Okay, there was a good reason for that.

956
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: The Patriots hadn't lost all season seventeen and zero, gone into.

957
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: The playoffs out de losses.

958
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, only other team had ever done this is a

959
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: seventy two Dolphins. The seventy two Dolphins went all the way,

960
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: They won the Super Bowl. Right, so that's what the

961
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: Patriots tell me.

962
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: There were seventy two dolphins on a field.

963
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. Keeping it what was a real challenge.

964
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 2: So then in the fourth quarter of the Giants were

965
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: trailing the down fourteen to ten. They start to drive

966
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: on their own seventeen yard line. Elizabeth, it's two minutes,

967
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: thirty nine seconds left to play. The drive does not

968
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: go well. They miss on first and second down. All

969
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 2: of a sudden, Now they got one last chance wide

970
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: received David Tyree. He makes this insane catch. It's a

971
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: third down in forever right. He goes up, pulls in

972
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: a one handed catch, pins it to his helmet and

973
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: goes down to the ground and holds it that way

974
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: off the ground. Oh, unbelievable. Keeps the drive alive. Thirty

975
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: two yard third down play nuts play right. This then

976
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: allows Steve Smith to get another third down conversion other receiver.

977
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: He gets an eleven yard one and then Plaxico Burris.

978
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: I love Plexico, but I should tell a story about

979
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: him sometime anyway. Plaxico Burris he hauls in a thirteen

980
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: yard touchdown. Boom. Giants win the game, ruin the Patriots

981
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: and Tom Brady's chances at perfection. Wow, baby, brother Eli

982
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 2: Manning goes the hope we did it right. He beat

983
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, sins in him of the best Super Bowl

984
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 2: wins of all time.

985
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 3: This stop. I'm gonna pretend like you're telling me this

986
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 3: and it has absolutely nothing to do with the rest

987
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 3: of Yes.

988
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Coach Jack Alexander and sister Mary Margaret

989
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: both saw the game. They were chatting about it the

990
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: next day, and he remembered this sixty something year old

991
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: nun tasks him, Hey, you watch the game. He's like,

992
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: oh yeah, that gad Giants winning drive and sister Mary

993
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: Margaret's like, did you see that catch? And he was like,

994
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: oh yeah. He thinks she means a Plasico buris one right.

995
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: She's like, no, David Tyreese one handed the helmet catch,

996
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: and he's like he realized she had money on the game,

997
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: the twelve point favorite. She was betting on the Patriots.

998
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: She was bad because that's when the game was lost

999
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,959
Speaker 2: by so as a gambler, that's what she focused. Wait

1000
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: a minute, this is finally when people start to be

1001
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 2: a little suspicious, but not enough suspicious, right, And also,

1002
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: by the way, never go against Eli Manning. If you're

1003
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: Tom Brady in Super Bowl because you lose both times, Okay,

1004
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: remember that he's dumb lucky. You know you can't beat

1005
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: dumb lucky. Kind of like sister Mary Margaret. She seems

1006
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: to be dumb lucky. Turns out she gets caught on

1007
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: some dumb luck. Really yeah, the bad kind like Eli

1008
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: Manning got the good kind of dumb lucky. She gets

1009
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: caught on the bad guy.

1010
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1011
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, two sisters, remember them.

1012
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 3: The it wasn't for bad luck, I'd have no luck

1013
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 3: at all.

1014
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: Oh stop, let.

1015
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: Me play a little too.

1016
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: So these two sisters, right, and I told you his

1017
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: sister law and his sister Mary Margaret. They play to

1018
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: retire at this point. Sister Mary Margaret's in her mid seventies,

1019
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: Sister Lawanna is in her mid sixties. They're ready for

1020
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: the life to whine now and just be able to

1021
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: go gamble and get some buffets in Vegas without any

1022
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: of these hassle of kids and parents, you know whatever.

1023
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 2: And maybe I'm wrong, who knows, Maybe they don't want

1024
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: buffet in a show. But they prelan to retire. And

1025
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: then since they planned to retire, this triggers our financial review,

1026
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: just a standard procedural audit. Well, yeah, dumb luck is

1027
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: that at that same time, a family from Saint James

1028
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: requests a copy of an old tuition check. Now I know,

1029
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 2: we're going through the old records. We'll find that for you. Yeah,

1030
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: And they dig it out and the old tuition check

1031
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: starts the great unraveling of a tuition check. As Monsignor

1032
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: Myers remembers it, quote, when we got the check, it

1033
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 2: was noticed that the endorsement on the back was not

1034
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 2: for the Saint James School account. It was an account

1035
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 2: that nobody knew about. Record scratch hup. So Mon Senior

1036
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: he approaches sister Mary Margaret and the principal. The sister

1037
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: she acts sketchy, you know, and he's like, that's weird.

1038
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: She doesn't give any real answers. It's all varications and

1039
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: misleading lies or you know, vague statements. So they hire

1040
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: a forensic auditor. They bring them in. They start going

1041
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: through the school's finances. At this point, it's May June

1042
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. School's out. It works all summer. They're hoping

1043
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: they'll get it done by design schools back in. They're

1044
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: not done. They work all autumn, they'll maybe they'll get

1045
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: done by winter break. They're not done. They're like, look,

1046
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: after six months, we can tell you we have no

1047
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 2: idea where all the money went, but we were able

1048
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: to track back. We found half a million dollars and

1049
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 2: they went to this one account, but that count only

1050
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: started in twenty twelve and she got there nineteen eighty eight.

1051
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: Oh wow, so we're pretty certain they've probably got other accounts.

1052
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: So they keep looking around. They started, they find other

1053
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: bank endorsements on other tuition checks. They find five different

1054
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: accounts five ye one's dated back to nineteen ninety seven.

1055
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: So remember still got there in nineteen ninety eight. They

1056
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 2: haven't even gotten to the beginning yet. So I know

1057
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 2: they possibly this may be a lot of it. So one,

1058
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: they don't know what happened to all the school funds

1059
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 2: and did all go to gambling trips in the high life?

1060
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 2: Probably so at this point, winner of twenty eighteen folks

1061
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: from Saint James School, they approached the Torrents Police. They've

1062
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: waited six months to do them, to bring the cops in,

1063
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 2: but not only that, they decide they do not want

1064
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: to press charges and we do not want to file

1065
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 2: a criminal complaints.

1066
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: Do you imagine the meetings at some parents' house, like

1067
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 3: the secret meetings?

1068
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and.

1069
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 3: They're all gathered around, Oh my god. And it's like

1070
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: half gossip yes.

1071
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: Oh so good, half pitchfork sharpening.

1072
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: Yes, oh my god.

1073
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: So the church in the school promises Sister Mary, Margaret,

1074
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: Sister Lawana, they will face quote canonical sanctions. I have

1075
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: no idea what those are. It sounds like, you know,

1076
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 2: go clean.

1077
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 3: Up the ya does church business.

1078
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: That's what it is. We'll handle this inside the house.

1079
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: So as for you're stolen funds, the Order of the

1080
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: Sisters of Saint Joseph of carondole A. They guarantee that

1081
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 2: the sisters will pay for the nuns crimes and make restitutions.

1082
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: So now another order of nuns, not the church, not

1083
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 2: the diocese, the Order of Nuns.

1084
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: That's her order.

1085
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to pay for it. They're like, we'll

1086
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: take care of her. About that now. Michael Myers as

1087
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: in Monsignor Myers, his full name is Michael Myers, like

1088
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: the Texas Chainsaw massacre, or you can shorten it to

1089
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: Mike Myers, like the guy who voice shresk Ether pick Elizabeth.

1090
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: But anyway, Monsignor Michael Myers, he had to inform the

1091
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 2: parents now about all this back channel talk with the

1092
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 2: church and the diocese so forth, and that what they're

1093
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: going to do about the former principle and how they

1094
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: violated the trust. So he writes a letter to the

1095
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: parents and it goes, quote, it is with much sadness

1096
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 2: that I'm informing families of Saint James School that an

1097
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: internal investigation has revealed that over a period of years,

1098
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: Ster Mary Margaret Kreuper and Sister Lana Chang have been

1099
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: involved in the personal use of a substantial amount of

1100
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: school funds. Really undercuts it. Yeah, there's no drama in that.

1101
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: So he assures the parents that the Order of the

1102
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 2: Sisters of Saint Joseph so Corondela will be quote cooperating

1103
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: with us and the Archdiocese to confirm the amount of

1104
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 2: the funds that were misappropriated, and the Order of Done

1105
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: promises once again to pay restitution as well the criminal part.

1106
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 2: So Monsignor Mike Myers added that the archdiocese had no

1107
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: plans to prosecute them. He tells that to the parents,

1108
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: and then Sister Mary, Margaret and Sister Lana were quote

1109
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: very sorry. And now, as he also put it, and

1110
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 2: I quote, they have expressed to me and asked that

1111
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: I convey to you the deep remorse that they each

1112
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 2: feel for their actions and ask your forgiveness and prayers.

1113
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 3: Okay, that was then, and.

1114
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: Then entered the DOJ. We don't want to go to

1115
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 2: the Torrents PD. Well, one of the parents decided, let's

1116
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: go to the FBI. No way, That's what I have

1117
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: to guess, because the DOJ got involved. Yeah, nun's actions

1118
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: met the criteria for federal prosecution. Yeah, rather than on

1119
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: senior one to press charges or not.

1120
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 3: Now that's the well maybe the I don't know.

1121
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Press release from the DOJ dated February seventh, twenty

1122
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: twenty two. The fed's summed up the crimes. Thus, Lee

1123
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 2: Elizabeth sister Mary Margaret Kreiper, who had as a nun,

1124
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: had taken a valve of poverty, diverted school funds into

1125
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 2: the Saint James Convent account and the Saint James Savings account,

1126
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: and then use the diverted funds to pay for ex

1127
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 2: expenses that the order would not have approved, much less

1128
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: paid for, including large gambling expenses and curdit casinos and

1129
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: certain credit card charges. So Bo Meredith, the principal of

1130
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: this school for twenty eight years, sole discretion of our

1131
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: school finances for decades. It's really impossible to say how

1132
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: much she and sister Lane got away with. The FEDS

1133
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: estimated it at eight hundred and thirty five thousand, three

1134
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty nine dollars day, or, as the DOJ

1135
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 2: prosecutor laid it out, on an annualized basis, approximately eighty

1136
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: three thousand dollars per year. Kreyper stole the equivalent of

1137
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: the tuition of fourteen different students every year.

1138
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 3: Oh man, denying they I love the tuition conversion on it. Yeah,

1139
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 3: and we'll just assume those are in parish Catholics.

1140
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: Yes we are.

1141
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: Are they? The price goes up?

1142
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 2: So all I gotta say to that is damn sister

1143
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 2: so Elizabeth, what's that ridiculous takeaway?

1144
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, a ridiculous takeaway. I think it's interesting. We were

1145
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: saying about how no one looks past us the wrapper

1146
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 3: of like, if you have this, this notion of it, we'll.

1147
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 2: Tell them a story they can understand. They don't then

1148
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: question the story.

1149
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 3: Right. One of the things that I saw once where

1150
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: you're talking. You mentioned nuns and airports, and I saw

1151
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 3: in I think it was in like Rome, Fumacino, But

1152
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 3: there were all these nuns and they had then they

1153
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 3: were in full habit and and they were walking and

1154
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 3: everyone kind of moved out of their way like they

1155
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: and they were kind of gliding through. And I thought

1156
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 3: that must be the coolest feeling to have everybody get

1157
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 3: out of your way, as someone who just like gets

1158
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 3: bumped into all the time. And like in airports, people

1159
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,959
Speaker 3: don't care. They like they had.

1160
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 2: Like a force.

1161
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 3: And I don't know if that was just because they

1162
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 3: were in Italy, but I feel like other places too,

1163
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 3: to have when you have that outside appearance and all

1164
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 3: the things that affords you, you know, it's a it's

1165
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 3: a blessing and a curse in this case, Saren, what's

1166
00:54:59,280 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 3: her ridiculous?

1167
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a miracle. Ask mine is damn sister? That's

1168
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: all I got for Princy. Do though? Do you got

1169
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: to talk back for us? Sure?

1170
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 3: Do?

1171
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 7: Oh my god?

1172
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 3: I love che.

1173
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 6: Hello everyone. So this is a response to something ridiculous

1174
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 6: Elizabeth brought up in an episode of twenty twenty three.

1175
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 6: So I hope it still blows your mind with how

1176
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 6: much you guys love pickles. But there's more than just

1177
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 6: a pickle hard Seltzer. There's a pickle moonshine that has

1178
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 6: the spears in it. Really good for Bloody Mary's pickle

1179
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 6: Vodka's many pickle beers. Those are pretty good too. You

1180
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 6: can get them spicy. But you guys, there's a whole

1181
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 6: pickle world out there for you. And I hope you

1182
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 6: love this, love the show, Thank you so much.

1183
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 2: We do.

1184
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 3: I do love that. You know what I got recently

1185
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: pickled a gaio. Oh gorillas makes it's just chopped, yeah,

1186
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 3: and you can put it like you know. I do

1187
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 3: all sorts of experimental tacos there.

1188
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 2: I've heard this about you. You told me that I

1189
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 2: was your pr company.

1190
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: Yes, and I'm gonna put a little pickle the guyo

1191
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 3: on there. See what happens. Get a little loose.

1192
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: Crazy, I'm gonna get drunk on.

1193
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 3: I think let's get you some pickle one. The Bloody

1194
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: Mary idea is interesting and we get pickled on the

1195
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 3: pickle juice. Love it.

1196
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: I love it well as always. You can find us

1197
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 2: online ridiculous crime on those social media, some of them,

1198
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: most of them whatever. We also have our website, Ridiculous

1199
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: Crime dot com. It is award winning experience. I recommend it.

1200
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: We just won thrill Ride roller Coaster of the Air

1201
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: in Ohio. We also like your talkbacks, as you can tell,

1202
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 2: so please get the iHeart app downloaded then leave one there.

1203
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: You may hear your voice here. Also, you can email

1204
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: us you feel like a Ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com.

1205
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: We do like hearing from you there as well as

1206
00:56:53,640 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 2: always catch us next crime. Ridiculous Crime is hosted by

1207
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dutton and Zaron Brenette, produced and edited by the

1208
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 2: Right Reverend Monsignor Dave Kustin, and starring Analyze Rutger at

1209
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: his tune in. Research is by our Honorable Mother Superior

1210
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: Warissa Brown. Our theme song is by Brother Thomas Lee,

1211
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: Father Travis Dutton. The host wardrobe provided by Botany five hundred,

1212
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: guest Harry, makeup by Sparkleshot and He's Done. Executive producers

1213
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: are official Deacons of the Church of the Plastic Jesus,

1214
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: Ben Bolin and Noel Brown.

1215
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 4: Ridic Crime Say It One More Times Crime.

1216
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeart Radio four more podcasts.

1217
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: My Heart Radio visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or

1218
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows.