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Speaker 1: chu ching to say the least as NBA Free agency

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Speaker 1: begins on a news dump Friday with a bang sort of,

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Speaker 1: one point five billion dollars worth of contracts that have

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Speaker 1: been agreed to since NBA Free agency began at six

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern on Friday. Odd timing to me that it's

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Speaker 1: on a news dump Friday. I don't know why you

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Speaker 1: it just being on the weekend. But whatever, that's the

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Speaker 1: way the NBA does it. The NFL wouldn't even release

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Speaker 1: its schedule on a news dump Friday. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why you would begin free agency there, but I greet

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Speaker 1: you nevertheless, gentlemen, how are things going here? Good? Good? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I certainly I'm speaking for myself here when

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Speaker 2: I say this is this is certainly one of my

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Speaker 1: Invite whoever you want.

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Speaker 2: Took the cookout right, you know, this isn't one of

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Speaker 2: Christmas or Honika or Kwans or whatever you celebrating your

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Speaker 2: them over. No, this is this is this is do

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Speaker 2: whatever you want, have a hot dog, you know, enjoy America.

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Speaker 2: You know this, this this is one of the best weekends,

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Speaker 2: absolutely right, Brian. You have a golden opportunity to do

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Speaker 3: So I'll start the morning with two hot takes. First

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Speaker 3: of all, is this really July fourth weekend?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this has to be. It's the closest holiday

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Speaker 3: So I guess it's a sports thing because I always

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Speaker 1: We've been doing it in sports for years.

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Speaker 3: So I don't mind a holiday being on a Tuesday,

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Speaker 5: The only day I'm not working is the full.

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Speaker 3: I'm working today, working tomorrow, working on the And then

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Speaker 5: This is my least favorite holiday, July fourth.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean I think big holidays, right, the Thanksgivings,

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Speaker 1: So when I'm.

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Speaker 3: Outside in July it's hot, i get invited to a party,

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Speaker 1: Rich just said it.

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Speaker 3: There is no rhyme or reason to what the NBA

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Speaker 1: It's not my favorite holiday. It would be this year,

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Speaker 1: But why, But I don't like first this is Saturday.

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Speaker 1: It's great for us, no idea. Listen, some people are

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Speaker 1: Well. A couple of the funnier moments so far in

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Speaker 1: But the big fish are pretty much staying put. Kyrie

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Speaker 2: hocking the This is all about hope, right, Like the

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Speaker 1: So the off season is where the hope starts.

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Speaker 2: The offseason, you know, think about for some teams in

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Speaker 1: This is where you'll have Knicks fans going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw a tweet the other day.

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Speaker 1: In the last three years. That's not good.

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Speaker 3: Those are problems like those are fundamental problems with the league. Now,

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Speaker 3: it was pretty entertaining yesterday. Watching all the moves come in.

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Speaker 1: The off season is very entertaining. I love the regular season.

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Speaker 1: that stuff. It just fits perfectly with seventeen games in

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Speaker 1: Hey O Tani doing pretty good, duding pretty good. He

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Speaker 8: They wanted them, no, he would not only would in Obinia.

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Speaker 2: baseball more than Tiger Woods is dominated golf. Now, he

436
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Speaker 2: hasn't won as much as Tiger Woods because baseball is

437
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Speaker 2: a team sport and he's one player on the team.

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Speaker 2: But he's dominating the sport more than Tiger Woods dominating golf.

439
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Speaker 2: He's dominating the sport more than Lebron James or Jordan

440
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Speaker 2: Ever dominated basketball. He's dominating the sport. I'm talking about

441
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Speaker 2: from the athletics standpoint, from what he's doing to the game.

442
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Speaker 2: He's dominating his sport more than Tom Brady dominated the

443
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Speaker 2: NFL shoe. Heotani is criminally underappreciated. So if the Angels

444
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Speaker 2: are smart, they keep them. Because you have an opportunity

445
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Speaker 2: to have a once in a lifetime player where your

446
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Speaker 2: team colors through his entire career. I would hold on

447
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Speaker 2: to him for dear life.

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Speaker 5: This is so difficult of a situation, guys.

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Speaker 3: First of all, he's only the He's not even the

450
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Speaker 3: highest paid player on his own team. He's actually the

451
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Speaker 3: third highest played player on his team, which is just

452
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Speaker 3: insane to think about. Rendon and Trout make more adjusted

453
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Speaker 3: salary than he does. The Obviously, this is a business decision,

454
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Speaker 3: I think, but it has major baseball and life implications

455
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Speaker 3: for the city of Anaheim and that culture, that fan

456
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Speaker 3: base that has been sort of tortured for the last

457
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Speaker 3: twenty years. They've made a lot of They've spent their

458
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Speaker 3: money frivolously. I would say with Ardi Moreno, the Pool

459
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Speaker 3: host deal, the Rendon deal, a couple of other deals

460
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Speaker 3: in there. They have not been afraid to spend big

461
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Speaker 3: money on players that are maybe past their prime to

462
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Speaker 3: get them in the system and to make the Angels

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Speaker 3: a more marketable team. They are the little brother of

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Speaker 3: their market with the Dodgers. It is a tough even

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Speaker 3: I would say even the Padres like they're even like

466
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Speaker 3: the third team in their little region in terms of

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Speaker 3: the popularity, I think. But it's it's really tough because

468
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Speaker 3: there's this baseball decision that's looming. I think the consensus

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Speaker 3: based off of for what I hear, and we don't

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Speaker 3: know this. We don't know Otani's decision process. We don't

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Speaker 3: know what his inner circles like. This is just what

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Speaker 3: we're hearing. We're hearing he wants to walk, he wants

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Speaker 3: to go somewhere else. We're hearing he's interested in some

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Speaker 3: other teams. There's other fits out there, but he keeps

475
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Speaker 3: things very close to the best. He's an incredibly humble individual.

476
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Speaker 3: I think that's the other thing about this that is intriguing.

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Speaker 3: He might be one of the most humble athletes on

478
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Speaker 3: the planet. Yet the talent does not match his you know, cockiness.

479
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Speaker 3: But I think from a business perspective, you either re

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Speaker 3: sign him now before the season ends, or you trade him,

481
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Speaker 3: because I think it is you're taking a massive risk

482
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Speaker 3: if you just go into the off season without a

483
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Speaker 3: plan in place, because if he walks for nothing, you

484
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Speaker 3: have made the worst business decision.

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Speaker 5: Perhaps in the history of sports.

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Speaker 3: If he resigns with the Angels, well, you're gonna give

487
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Speaker 3: up a king's ransom for him, and you might not.

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Speaker 1: You might, I don't.

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Speaker 5: It might impact the next ten years of your franchise.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I'm glad I don't have

491
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Speaker 1: to make this decision.

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Speaker 3: I don't get paid enough to make this decision. I

493
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Speaker 3: think if you put a gun to my head today,

494
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Speaker 3: I would trade him. But I don't know what the

495
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Speaker 3: fallout would be there, because I think the business of

496
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Speaker 3: baseball matters a lot, and I think he might end

497
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Speaker 3: up leaving for nothing, and that is just a scenario

498
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Speaker 3: that is really hard to stomach.

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Speaker 1: That's the smartest thing is to try to get your

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Speaker 1: answer now. It's almost impossible. Can we re up with

501
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Speaker 1: you right now? And if he says no, then it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the handwriting's on the wall. I guess they've already done that, right.

503
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Speaker 1: But that's the thing. If he's like, you know, let's

504
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Speaker 1: talk at the end of the season, and what do

505
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: you do? That is the ultimate gamble in baseball.

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Speaker 5: It's biggest gambled history of sports.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps he is the best player of our generation, there's

508
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Speaker 1: no doubt about that. I would love to know what

509
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: deal is on the table. Yion dollars, I mean it

510
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Speaker 1: has to be.

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Speaker 2: We're talking, we're talking a deal that is. I mean,

512
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Speaker 2: it's such a it's such a crazy number to throw

513
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Speaker 2: out there, but it is a stones throw away from

514
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Speaker 2: a billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: More than Anthony red Doan. Let's just leave it a

516
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Speaker 1: rat if they would pay him, But what would they

517
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Speaker 1: give up for him? That's what the Angels need to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what what would a team trade for him that?

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Speaker 3: I'll be honest, it might take a whole team like

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Speaker 3: just ta, well, you know what that.

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Speaker 2: There's actually there's actually an argument that I can make,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's a fairly decent argument that I mean,

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Speaker 2: shohe Otani is untradeable and it's not because it's not,

524
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Speaker 2: because no team can offer a package that's good for

525
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Speaker 2: the Angels. The problem is the problem is a team

526
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Speaker 2: is going to have to divorce themselves of so much

527
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Speaker 2: to get Otani that they'll actually cripple their entire franchise

528
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: by hearing so so. So think about it like if

529
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Speaker 2: you get into a bidding war with another team, Eventually

530
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna have to say, you know what, I bow out,

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Speaker 2: and maybe both teams come to their senses and go, yeah,

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Speaker 2: what are we doing If we leverage so much of

533
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 2: our future to get this guy, Well then we have

534
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: nothing else other than show hey Otani. And it may

535
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: be bleak for years where you know, everybody's saying, like,

536
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: show hey Otani needs to join a winner, Well, how

537
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: is he going to join a winner if that winner completely,

538
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 2: i mean completely empties themselves until the bare bones in

539
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: order to get them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a different sport, but it reminds me of

541
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: Carmelo going to the Knicks, and it's like, if you

542
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: get a haul in return, well then his chances aren't

543
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: very good on what's that? But yeah, I think this

544
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: is just like Texas Old tom My Do or the Angels.

545
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Speaker 1: They're going all in with say a hand that is

546
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Speaker 1: an ideal. They're going all on the river, right, Yeah,

547
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: they're going with like Jack nine offsuit and that trade car.

548
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: You're at the table like that's bald. And if it

549
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: works out, you're like, man, what a move. And if

550
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: it does and if they lose him, you're like, what

551
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: the hell were you doing? I don't know he's gonna

552
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Speaker 1: get traded, guys. I don't think he's going to I

553
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: don't think he will either, and I hope that's the

554
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Speaker 1: case because arty mono man I have it's looking great

555
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Speaker 1: for al MVP, So.

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Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I think both MVP races are done,

557
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 3: done and dusted.

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Speaker 1: You see a coon you last night, isn't it? Crazy?

559
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: Rock car? If Otani got traded to an NL team

560
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: here before the deadline, he would still be in the

561
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Speaker 1: running for al MVP.

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Speaker 3: Would be fascinating market to dissect from am because right

563
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: now there's nothing more of a sure thing in the

564
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 3: sports betting world than Otani to win the al MVP.

565
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: It's like the highest odds on the board in all

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Speaker 3: of the Major League Baseball market.

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Speaker 1: It's right. I don't know what it would do. I know, yeah,

568
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, what's a sure thing that would be one

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Speaker 1: Isaac Lomankhon crushing. Another update, it is at minus thirty

570
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Speaker 1: seven billion. It is you're not gonna gonna have to

571
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Speaker 1: lay thirty seven billion to win one hundred dollars. Here

572
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: is what you have to do. I low what the latest?

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 7: But the latest, fellas is, we have several phone calls

575
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Speaker 7: holding in the studio for rich Ornberger after his pronouncement

576
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 7: moments ago that there is no athlete who has dominated

577
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 7: their sport more then show hey Otani online one we

578
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 7: have an Eldrick T.

579
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Speaker 4: Woods, Oh Boyden.

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Speaker 7: We also have a Mike Jordan Oh, Thomas Brady okay,

581
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Speaker 7: and then oddly enough from earlier, we have holding on

582
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Speaker 7: the line Aunt Mildred Ester and Louise.

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Speaker 1: Does Tom Brady like defense too. See that's my thing,

584
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: that's my thing. Like I get it.

585
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: Those guys Serena Williams throw her name in there. They're

586
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: great at their sports, right, But here's the problem. They

587
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: they they did what everybody else did, they just did

588
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Speaker 2: it better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've seen what Tom Brady has done before,

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Speaker 2: I've never seen it as well as Tom Brady has

592
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: done it. Same with Tiger I've seen what Tiger has

593
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Speaker 2: done before. I've never seen it as good as Tiger

594
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Speaker 2: has done it. Serena, I've seen women's tennis played at

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Speaker 2: the highest level.

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Speaker 1: I buy her, by the way, but it's no different

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Speaker 1: than anybody else. She's just better.

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Speaker 2: Speaking, we show, Hey, O, Toddy's doing is is everything.

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00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's also mopping.

600
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Speaker 2: The bathrooms after the game better than anybody has.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, speaking.

602
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Speaker 7: Of doing what nobody else has ever done before. I'll

603
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Speaker 7: have the rest of you know that. While he was

604
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Speaker 7: releasing that rant on the radio, rich was also live

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Speaker 7: tweeting the same thing he was.

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Speaker 1: I tweet tweeter my Twitter feed up here.

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00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, he tweeted the video of the Otani home.

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00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: Hey, you might have a social media assistant doing it

609
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: for him though, you know, Richard's big time.

610
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I have multiple social media I mean, look,

611
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 7: let's see Otani Homer and pitch and tweet at the

612
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 7: same time. Oh, I'll be impressed, frend Man. We have

613
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Speaker 7: more NBA free agency news this morning. ESPN just reporting

614
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 7: earlier that free agent Max Strus headed from Miami to

615
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Speaker 7: Cleveland on a four year, sixty three million dollars sign

616
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Speaker 7: and trade deal. On Friday night, Memphis Grizzlies guard Desmond

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Speaker 7: Vane agreed to a five year, two hundred and seven

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Speaker 7: million dollar MAX extension. Indiana Pacers guard Tyrese Haliburton agreed

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Speaker 7: to a five year MAX extension that could be worth

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Speaker 7: up to two hundred and sixty million. Kyrie Irving residing

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Speaker 7: with Dallas for three years one hundred and twenty six million.

622
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 7: Guard Fred van Vliet heading from Toronto to the Houston

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Speaker 7: Rockets on a three year, one hundred and thirty million

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00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 7: dollar deal. Draymond Green stays with Golden State for four

625
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 7: years and one hundred million. Three time All Star Chris

626
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 7: Middleton reupps with Milwaukee three years one hundred and two million.

627
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 7: The Lakers agreed to three year deals with Ruey Hachi

628
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 7: Mora and former Miami guard gave Vincent baseball. Friday night,

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Speaker 7: the Tampa Bay Ray scored fifteen unanswered runs, including eight

630
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 7: runs in the eighth inning, and a fifteen to four

631
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Speaker 7: win at Seattle, and so impressed that he has not

632
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 7: complained about this yet on the air today. The Yankees

633
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 7: and Cardinals in Saint Louis were postponed.

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Speaker 1: Brand we were there, but I was there with my girlfriend.

635
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: My dad said, Spider, we drove two and a half

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00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: hours to get to Saint Louis. It's raining a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We're standing at our seats. We're like, let's get some food,

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00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, And then the rain starts coming down a

639
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: little bit harder. And just as I was saying, oh,

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00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: it looks like it's lightning up right there, the announcement

641
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: the game has been postponed until tomorrow night. You needed

642
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: Bill Murray. Heavy stuff's not gonna come down for a

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Speaker 1: little while. We got rained. Now.

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Speaker 2: Last night it was hang I'm about to tweet again.

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00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: When you get it, I want you to read this.

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00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on, you want Brian, you want me

647
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: to read it? You can read. It might pop up

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Speaker 1: on you, It'll pop up on my screen.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've got like Twitter basically embedded into my brain.

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Speaker 3: Like every time someone tweets, like one of those like

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Speaker 3: micro chips goes off in my head.

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Speaker 1: All right, here it goes, here it goes and boy,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: This is this is like live social media production, live

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Speaker 3: on the air. I mean, what the radio gods must

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Speaker 3: love this.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you can say they know showed.

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Speaker 1: Rich is just fire and daggers.

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Speaker 5: Today Rich is Brian. Rich is taking over Brian's role

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Speaker 1: You're Welcome That is called Now what do I do? Guys?

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Speaker 1: I think you go back? Well, that's the thing, that's right.

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Speaker 1: I got the tickets on stub hubs. All right, Hey, no,

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Speaker 1: so they're good for tonight. They're doing a day night doubleheader.

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Speaker 1: But here's oh you can only go tonight. Oh that's tough. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's only tonight. Usually they let.

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Speaker 3: You cash them in for any game later in the year. Again,

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Speaker 3: I don't know the rules, but I thought those were

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Speaker 3: the rules.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's what we're looking at. And that's tough.

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Speaker 1: My dad and his wife they had to go back

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Speaker 1: early this morning, so they're out, so up the tickets.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things we could do here. Maybe my

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Speaker 1: girl and I would go back tonight. I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about this though. You ever like run at a track,

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Speaker 1: it's depressing. You're just running around, running around to make

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Speaker 1: the same drive there, this same drive back. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: go back tonight. That's how long of a drive. How long?

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Speaker 3: It's two and a half each way, So it's a

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Speaker 3: five hour drive for a three hour, maybe two and

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Speaker 3: a half hour baseball game.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't do that twice in the same Well.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is it's still raining pretty hard right now, and.

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Speaker 5: It's also couple header the quality of a game. I

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Speaker 5: wouldn't go to that.

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Speaker 2: Here's the other thing. You got a factor, and is

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Speaker 2: how understanding of a girlfriend do you have the best?

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Speaker 1: She's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I mean no, I mean it seems that way, but

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Speaker 2: it's just one of those things where like, is this

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Speaker 2: where you want to cash in all the favors?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Rich?

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Speaker 3: Rich as a married man with kids? That is the

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Speaker 3: smartest I'm like.

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Speaker 2: I'm really thinking about it, Like you know, we're using

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Speaker 2: the poker term earlier.

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Speaker 1: Is this the hand?

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Speaker 3: Do you want to go all the way to put

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Speaker 3: that chip in your back pocket?

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Speaker 1: Be you know, save it for a rainy day intended.

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Speaker 1: The funny thing though, is she's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: the opposite. I think that she would rather go and

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Speaker 1: you know, have a I don't know, create a memory,

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Speaker 1: you know, have an experience that sort of thing, instead

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Speaker 1: of sitting around. I think she would. I think I

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Speaker 1: would actually start restocking the favor jar if you will,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, hey, can I go? You know, I

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Speaker 1: think it would be actually restocked a bit if we

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Speaker 1: did run it back tonight. I would just hate to

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Speaker 1: get rained out again. Can you imagine we go all

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Speaker 1: the way there and it's.

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Speaker 3: I did see because I'm looking at the weather report,

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Speaker 3: because I'm doing my baseball scans for for today, it

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Speaker 3: does look.

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Speaker 1: Like you're in the clear today.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, Okay, it looks it says zero percent pre

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Speaker 3: sip for the late game.

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Speaker 1: So and you wouldn't make it for you.

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Speaker 2: I'm now fast forwarding my brain when she'll wipers on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like the weather reports ever before Arch.

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Speaker 2: You're march in between torrential downpours of when and that thing.

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Speaker 5: Strikes the arch as you're just feeling.

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Speaker 2: Like the eyeballs on your shoulder and just like Jared said,

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Speaker 2: there was no rain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, but Jared said, blame this on me, Bro,

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Speaker 1: we've got rich oron Berger, Penn State All American Jared

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, a bold and probably highly inaccurate prediction

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Speaker 1: from an NFL player. It's Fox Sports Saturday right here

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in. It's Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Saturday live from the Tirack dot Com studios. So we've

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Speaker 1: got a bold prediction here from Tampa Bay Buccaneers offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman Tristan Wurfs went on a podcast and said he

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Speaker 1: predicts the Bucks will go twelve and five. Get out

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Speaker 1: of here. That's what he's going for, a twelve o five.

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Speaker 1: They were eight to nine last season with the goat

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, and Baker Mayfield is set to take over.

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Speaker 1: So I don't see how that's going to boost the

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Speaker 1: win total by four games right there, going from Brady

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Speaker 1: to Baker. It isn't a great division. There is that

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Speaker 1: they play the NFC North and also the AFC South,

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Speaker 1: so that's favorable. But they won the division last year,

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Speaker 1: so they play a first play schedule. They pick up

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, the Bills, and the forty nine ers get

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Speaker 1: out of here. So I don't say twelve and five

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Speaker 1: for Tampa this season. No, yeah, twelve and five goodness great? No.

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Speaker 2: Well, And also, if you think about it, like in

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Speaker 2: that division, I'm thinking, I'm thinking the Saints are going

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Speaker 2: to be the division winners unless something bad happens, like

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Speaker 2: they have a.

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Speaker 1: Crucial injury Derek Carr.

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Speaker 2: The addition there, you know, a healthier backfield than last year,

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Speaker 2: potential healthier receiving core than last year. Michael Thomas may

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Speaker 2: play for the first time in years. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: just don't see, even with a week schedule, how Tampa

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Speaker 2: Bay can possibly with a downgrade at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I mean an indefinite downngrade.

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Speaker 2: I I it's difficult to quantify how far down you've

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Speaker 2: fallen that they would be better. So, yeah, there's there's

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Speaker 2: no there's no chance there. I mean there is a chance,

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Speaker 2: but there's no chance.

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Speaker 3: There's only seven teams in the league last year that

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Speaker 3: won twelve games, right, Yeah, prior year there was only six.

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Speaker 3: You're saying you're a top six team in the league.

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Speaker 3: They weren't a top six team with Tom Brady last year.

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Speaker 3: Now they're gonna be a top six team with and

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they can't overachieve and maybe go

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Speaker 3: over their win total, which I believe is somewhere in

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Speaker 3: the seven range.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds about right, like seven wins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I think that is fair all I mean

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Speaker 3: and listen, I understand you want to be excited and

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Speaker 3: you know, optimistic, but that just seems that just seems

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Speaker 3: on planet Mars there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bit much. That's a bit much. And

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Speaker 1: we know there are surprises all the time. Last year,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy going into the season, we're like, well, in

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Speaker 1: the NFC, we at least know that Green Bay, Tampa Bay,

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Speaker 1: and the Ams are gonna be good, and all of

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Speaker 1: them had losing. That's a great point.

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Speaker 5: He's in the NFC and not the AFC.

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Speaker 3: If he was in the a f C making that claim,

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Speaker 3: then I would ask what he's smoking.

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Speaker 1: But maybe he's just optimistic.

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Speaker 2: See if he's opening up a line of gummies, because

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Speaker 2: that would have I would have some.

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Speaker 1: Because I'll have it. Yeah, we know there are surprises,

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Speaker 1: but that's another level for Tampa to go twelve and five.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, What does a lemonade stand have to

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Speaker 1: do with the NFL's gambling policy.

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Speaker 1: Oh, more gambling suspensions. What does it have to do

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Speaker 1: players got suspended, most notably Isaiah Rodgers of the Colts

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Speaker 1: cornerback projected to be a starter, he's out for the

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Speaker 1: entire season. Even placed one bet on a Colts running back,

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Speaker 1: a prop bet thing. Yeah that's yeah, And you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys feel, but the way

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Speaker 1: my mind is, I just have to find a reason

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Speaker 1: why things are the way they are. I'm just curious

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Speaker 1: like that. Like even if someone says something stupid does

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Speaker 1: something stupid, like why, what's behind that? What's the reasoning

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Speaker 1: for that to happen? And I ran across the story

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Speaker 1: and I immediately thought about the NFL's gambling policy. It

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Speaker 1: was a story about a lemonade stand in Alabama, of

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Speaker 1: all things. So this Alabama mother, she said one day

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Speaker 1: that her son asked to go to Disney World, and

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Speaker 1: she was joking around and said, you know, I'll teach

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Speaker 1: you how to earn a buck, since you think money

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Speaker 1: grows on trees. And it turned out where she was

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Speaker 1: gonna have the kid work at a lemonade stand, and

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Speaker 1: so she put a post out on Facebook and said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we want a couple other local kids to work along

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Speaker 1: with my son. We'll call it an apprenticeship. You guys

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Speaker 1: will work there for a few hours in the day

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Speaker 1: and I'll give you twenty bucks at the end of

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Speaker 1: your shift. And so someone reported her to the Alabama

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Speaker 1: Department of Labor and yeah, they said she was illegally

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Speaker 1: hiring children. And a spokesman from the department said kids

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Speaker 1: that age can volunteer for their church or other nonprofit,

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Speaker 1: but a six year old cannot work for a for

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Speaker 1: profit business. She is free to employ her child at

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Speaker 1: her lemonade business, but no other children under the age

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Speaker 1: of fourteen. Now here's the deal. Why is that? So?

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Speaker 1: The policy is in place because of what it could

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Speaker 1: lead to. It's not about this story in particular, It's

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Speaker 1: about what it could lead to. This Alabama mother is

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Speaker 1: not employing kids by the dozens and running some illegal

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Speaker 1: enterprise over here, but they crack down because of what

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Speaker 1: it could lead to. I don't agree with it, but

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Speaker 1: that's the explanation as to how we got here. And

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Speaker 1: I think when you look at the NFL's gambling policy,

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Speaker 1: some of the facets of it, it's all about what

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Speaker 1: it could lead to. You can't gamble at the facility, well, why, Well,

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Speaker 1: because of what it could lead to, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. You can't enter a sports book during the

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Speaker 1: season because of what it could lead to. I don't

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Speaker 1: agree with every part of the gambling policy, but at

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Speaker 1: least I believe that's part of the explanation as to

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Speaker 1: why it is the way it is. It's the NFL

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Speaker 1: fearfully thinking what this could lead to next.

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Speaker 2: I I just I have such a hard time and

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Speaker 2: this this point was recently made, and I forget by who,

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Speaker 2: and if I remember, I'll tell you. But I have

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Speaker 2: such a hard time with the thought process that like

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Speaker 2: that mother, for example, she can make a lot of

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Speaker 2: other more detrimental decisions to the health and lifestyle and

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Speaker 2: well and being of her child, but like this is

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Speaker 2: the one that's the red flags getting thrown up for

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Speaker 2: by the neighbors. I know, you know, I mean, okay, So,

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Speaker 2: like I said, I forget who, I forget who said.

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00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: It first, but and I'll look for it.

868
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 2: But I saw a tweet recently about a player who

869
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: is defending the fact that he should be able to

870
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: gamble on himself, Bet Jones.

871
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: Jonathan Junes, thank you. It's it's the corner for the

872
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: safe for the Patriots. Thank you, he goes.

873
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: So, Jonathan Jones says, I can go out Let me

874
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: get this straight. I could go out there and risk

875
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 2: my life on the football field, but I can't bet

876
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: on myself to win.

877
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: Like how ridiculous. Like DeMar Hamlin's.

878
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: Heart stopped on the field yesterday last year. All right,

879
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: he he got contacted in the chest and he dropped

880
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: on the field. He went to cardiac arrest. He had

881
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: to be resuscitated. He had to literally be bought back

882
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: from the dead and he if but but if he

883
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: put five dollars on the bills beating the Bengals that night,

884
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: he would be suspended for a year. Are you kidding me?

885
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: Like to me, like, yes, rules, there should be rules.

886
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: I'm not saying there shouldn't be any rules. I'm in

887
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: favor of rules. I like certain regulations. I think that

888
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: in general, you need to have some some rules otherwise.

889
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: I mean, think about a sport without rules. You know,

890
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 2: you need boundaries, you need end lines, you need goal lines,

891
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: you need rules. In any way a shape or form

892
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: society sport, you need rules. But too many rules make

893
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: things worse, not better. And we're getting to that point

894
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: with the NFL in this gambling policy. You're making it confusing.

895
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: You're gonna end up having guys careers altered in I

896
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 2: mean entirely as a result of these suspensions. And you're

897
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: talking about life changing money being taken out of the

898
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: pockets of these players.

899
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 1: For mistakes that they've made.

900
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: Because all of a sudden, the NFL did about a

901
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: complete about face on how they feel about gambling. Now

902
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: it's up to the players to catch up and to

903
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 2: play at their speed.

904
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: It's not fair.

905
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: Rules are supposed to be put in place so everybody

906
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 2: understands the rules and everybody can play fairly. What's happening

907
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 2: to these players is unfair, and I hope the Union

908
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: fights tooth and nail for these players. They really failed them.

909
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: So I struggle with this. Rich.

910
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: I see where you're going, and I don't disagree with

911
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 3: the premise, but the Union has already kind of done that.

912
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: They the players get a big chock of the revenue

913
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 3: created by the NFL with gambling. Like the NFL gets

914
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 3: all this money from the sportsbooks, to sponsor, they get data,

915
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: all these things. Part of that money goes to the

916
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 3: players through the collective barting agreement. So even though the

917
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 3: players aren't gambling, they can't gamble, they're still making money

918
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: from gambling. So that's where I struggle with Jonathan Jones's

919
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: take where he says the players should be allowed to

920
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 3: bet on the games. Well, you're kind of already making

921
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 3: money from gambling even by not betting it. Almost in

922
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: my mind, if I was, if I was a player

923
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 3: and I knew that everyone else gambling was making me money,

924
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: and I don't have to gamble, I wouldn't gamble like it.

925
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 5: That to me is logic.

926
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: Now, the part two that I struggle with with Jonathan

927
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 3: Jones's take is are you playing harder in a game

928
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 3: that you're gambling on?

929
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 5: Are you playing like?

930
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 3: It's just I and I'm not saying that anybody would,

931
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: but it's just I think you're going into this multiverse

932
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: of of really difficult choices where I don't even want

933
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 3: a player to even be thinking about that, Like, it's

934
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: just I want that firewall up now. I'm talking about it.

935
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 3: From the gambling side, I never played in the NFL.

936
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 3: I don't have that inside locker room feeling. The only

937
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 3: times I was ever in a locker room was when

938
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 3: I was a media credentialed member of the media asking questions.

939
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 3: And I don't know what it's like on the other side.

940
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: And that's why I respect riches take a lot. But

941
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 3: from the gambling side, the players are already getting paid

942
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 3: from gambling. They don't need to gamble, they're already making

943
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: money off of it. So it just that's where I

944
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: struggle with this, Like there's a lot of other things

945
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 3: that they can do to make money, sponsorships, this that

946
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: off the field they're already it's already aked into their deal.

947
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: Why continue to push.

948
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: The envelope and open up because the NFL is telling

949
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: us right now, we don't like they're not even letting

950
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 3: you step inside the sportsbook, which, by the way, I

951
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: think that's a little bit too far. Like we were

952
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 3: in that red sportsbook in the Cincinnati ballpark. Why can't

953
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 3: a football player in September go to a Reds game

954
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 3: go into the sports book and get a beer at

955
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 3: that amazing bar that we were at, Like that, to

956
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: me is a little bit over baked, but it just

957
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: shows you how important this is to the NFL. They

958
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: want no indiscretion propriety, Like they don't even want you

959
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: to think about it.

960
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 5: They don't even want you to step foot in the facility.

961
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 5: That's how important this is.

962
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: And then if you think about it from the money side, well,

963
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: they're already getting money from gambling. So it just I

964
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 3: think if I was a football player at a high

965
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 3: prominent position, in a quarterback or a high payd player,

966
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 3: I might come out and say, listen, guys, we're already

967
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 3: kind of getting money from this.

968
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: Right Well, here's the thing. If you look at the

969
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: John Jones situation. He's looking at it from his point

970
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: of view, which I can understand, but it's only his

971
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 1: point of view. He's not considering the league's point of view.

972
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: And the league is looking at this and saying this

973
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: is not good for business whatsoever. If players are betting

974
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: on NFL games like this idea of hey, we're only

975
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: betting for our team, well, you're a whisker away from hey,

976
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: what if I bet against my team, like we might

977
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,479
Speaker 1: get housed this week, and I see the game plan.

978
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: And also, you've got partnerships with these sports betting companies.

979
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: How would it be good for that relationship. If NFL

980
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: players are placing bets with inside information, they know the

981
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: game plan this week is to run the ball like crazy, well,

982
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: then I might take Jonathan Taylor to hit the over

983
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: on his rushing total. Like. That's not good for the NFL.

984
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: They have to make sure that people believe the result

985
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: is on the up and up, and that's why they

986
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: have to period hard, stop screech the breaks. No gambling

987
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: on NFL games whatsoever for a team against the team,

988
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: anything related to that. That's what's best for them. Now,

989
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: I would throw this out there. If you look at

990
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson. He's a left tackle for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

991
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: He suspended the ped policy. He got suspended for four games,

992
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: like Isaiah Rodgers got suspended for the entire season. And

993
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: if you're looking at which alters the outcome of a

994
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: game more, is it Isaiah Rodgers betting on a teammate

995
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: to hit the over? Or is it Cam Robinson using peds?

996
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: And so Rogers gets seventeam games and Cam Robinson gets

997
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: four games Like That's where there are a lot of

998
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: things that are out of whack. But it's not just

999
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: from the player's standpoint. Hey, why can't I bet on games?

1000
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: It should be you should take a step back and

1001
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: look at it from the league's point of view. If

1002
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: you can answer the question, how is this good for

1003
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: the league? Exactly, there's far more bad than good if

1004
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: players started betting on NFL games themselves.

1005
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: Well, well, here's here's the problem that I have, and

1006
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: here's the pushback for all of this. I think that,

1007
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: and I've said this before, there should only be two

1008
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: rules for NFL players on betting. A You're not allowed

1009
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: to bet against your own team. Be you're not allowed

1010
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: to bet on any player propositions. And I think if you,

1011
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 2: if you just make those two very simple rules, you're

1012
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: going to take away a lot of the issues here.

1013
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: I mean, who cares if they're betting on college football games? Honestly,

1014
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: who cares if they're betting on other games around the NFL. Now,

1015
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: if you want to investigate some shady, shady bets that

1016
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: have been made because maybe maybe a player had insider

1017
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 2: information from another another player on a different team, something

1018
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 2: happened like that, I mean, okay, but that could just

1019
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 2: as easily happen with owners. Nobody is Nobody is coming

1020
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: down on owners who have insider information.

1021
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: I haven't.

1022
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: I haven't seen a single owner have a buddy from

1023
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: out of town putting money down on their team to

1024
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: win or lose and them getting shaken down. Like so

1025
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: there is there's impropriety here that's not being discussed. Now,

1026
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 2: I'll go back to the original point that the two

1027
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 2: rules right, players should not be able to bet against

1028
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: their team's players, shouldn't be allowed to bet on player props. Well, Rich,

1029
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 2: I mean, do you really want players losing their money

1030
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: betting on these games?

1031
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: Like?

1032
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: Do you really want them thinking about betting when they

1033
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 2: should be thinking about football. Why do we all of

1034
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 2: a sudden care what players think about? Did anybody ask

1035
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: me what I was thinking about during a football game?

1036
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 2: I mean the sort of horrible scenarios that I painted

1037
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: in my mind so that I could physically violate somebody

1038
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: on a down in, down out basis, the sort of

1039
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 2: anger that I had to generate toward a perfect stranger,

1040
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 2: somebody who I never met before.

1041
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: So I mean.

1042
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 2: Legitimately thinking putting myself into a mental state where my

1043
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: life is on the line, where I'm thinking I don't

1044
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: care if I live or die.

1045
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: I just need to get the job done.

1046
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: Like that is, Nobody was asking me about my mental

1047
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: state playing football, which I could argue is probably an

1048
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: unhealthy mental state to be in when you're playing the game.

1049
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, the fact that I'm thinking

1050
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: about I want to win because I have money on

1051
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: it doesn't pass your purity tests.

1052
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: Screw you.

1053
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: Then, I don't care about what you think about what

1054
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about when I'm playing.

1055
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: The sport that I played my whole life.

1056
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: I just none of these arguments make any sense to me,

1057
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 2: None of them, you know. And then the other side

1058
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: of it is, so these owners, they're allowed to take

1059
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: risks with their name, image and likeness, getting in bed

1060
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: with the sportsbook that may have a less than reputable reputation.

1061
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1062
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 2: I don't care whatever you feel about gambling, but as

1063
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 2: a player, I'm not allowed to. I mean, yeah, I

1064
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: get a share of that revenue, but it's through the

1065
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: collectively bargained agreement, and I have to go out and

1066
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: earn that money. I have to play good enough in

1067
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 2: order to get that money. I can't trade in on

1068
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: my fame, like these owners are taking risks on the name, image,

1069
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: and likeness of the league or these teams in order

1070
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 2: to make that money, Like I have to go out

1071
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 2: and try to earn the money that's generated via the

1072
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: revenue that's generated by the NFL who's making all the

1073
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: deals behind the behind the scenes. It's again, it's not equal.

1074
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: If we're a partnership, If the players and the owners

1075
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: are a partnership, and we are going out there together

1076
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: and providing a great product for our fans, then I

1077
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 2: should have as much an equal opportunity to make money

1078
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: off of my name, image and likeness as you are. Like,

1079
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: that's what a partnership is, and there is impropriety here,

1080
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: and that's the reason why I have such a problem

1081
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: with it.

1082
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: Will never happen ever, ever, ever, ever ever that players

1083
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,479
Speaker 1: will be able to bet on NFL games. I'd never

1084
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: say never, never say never, never, ever ever ever ever

1085
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: will it ever happen? Oh okay, it's not in their

1086
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: best interest.

1087
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 2: Oh I think you're so wrong on this one, because

1088
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: I feel like the players are going to argue and

1089
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: and they're gonna win this argument because the end result

1090
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: is going to be, you know, they're gonna spin it

1091
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 2: some way, Brian where it's like geez, you know, there

1092
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: is a charitable aspect that we can make this look better,

1093
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 2: and these players want to do it and they don't

1094
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 2: want to be suspended for it, so we just sort

1095
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: of have to loosen the reins a little bit.

1096
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: I bet you it happens. I would I would bet.

1097
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 2: I would bet not a small fortune, but I would

1098
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 2: make a stupid bet on this because I feel like it's.

1099
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 3: He's rich's betting on the fact that there will be betts.

1100
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: I love it. It's like this betting on betting. It's

1101
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: betting on betting. Yeh.

1102
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, obviously, this show is a get right

1103
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 3: like that was one of the reasons we were all

1104
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 3: brought together last year and it's been awesome, and we

1105
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 3: do a lot of non betting stuff on the show,

1106
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 3: non you know, gambling talk. I think this topic is

1107
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 3: going to be a topic that a lot of national

1108
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 3: shows that have nothing to do with gambling are going

1109
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 3: to continue to talk about over the next year. So

1110
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 3: because I do agree in a sense that this is

1111
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 3: not just like an open and shutcase and we're never

1112
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: going to hear about betting and players and the gray

1113
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: area in between ever. Again, I think this is going

1114
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 3: to be something that has continued to be discussed because

1115
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 3: betting continues to be something that is growing in this country.

1116
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 3: We're still only, i would project people that I talk

1117
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: to say, we're in kind of the third inning maybe

1118
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 3: of the gambling glow up in America, Like we have

1119
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 3: a lot more like Florida just relegalized that yesterday. There's

1120
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 3: a big legal battle going on, and there's a lot

1121
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 3: of major states California, Texas with professional sporting teams that

1122
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,959
Speaker 3: have not yet legalized it. So the conversations that we're

1123
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: having here are very similar to the conversations happening at

1124
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 3: the state and local government levels when these gambling discussions

1125
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 3: are being brought. I mean, I can't imagine what the

1126
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 3: Texas State House is going through right now trying to

1127
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 3: figure this out. California, same thing, they just had a

1128
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: referendum that went down. And again, all of these things

1129
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 3: all add to this stew of betting in America becoming

1130
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: not taboo anymore. And it's really an interesting shift in

1131
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 3: a paradigm where a few years ago the NFL didn't

1132
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 3: even want Tony Romo speaking at a fantasy event here

1133
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: Las Vegas.

1134
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: They're just making it harder on themselves. The NFL's gambling

1135
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: policy would be should be you can't bet on the NFL.

1136
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: That's it, and that's what it is in the facility.

1137
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if you go into a sports but it

1138
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: doesn't matter about any of that stuff. Just don't bet

1139
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: on the NFL and inside information you can't give that

1140
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: out done. That's your gambling policy. Instead, there's six little

1141
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: bullet points. They're making it too hard on themselves. But

1142
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: in any event, we've got Rich horn Berger, Penn State

1143
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: All American, We've got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm

1144
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: Brian No coming up. Next, I've got a stat that

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00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: will melt your mind guaranteed. It's Fox Sports Saturday right

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00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,600
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Speaker 1: a stat that's gonna melt your face? Right here? You're

1153
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Speaker 1: ready for this? You're sitting down baseball related, It's not

1154
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: just related. It is a baseball stat. So I was.

1155
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: It's on my way to the Yankees Cardinals game last night,

1156
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: but as you guys know, it got rained out, which

1157
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: really sucks. But the Cardinals now as we speak, they

1158
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: are fourteen games under five hundred. The Yankees are nine

1159
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:44,959
Speaker 1: games over five hundred. Both teams are ten games back

1160
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: in their division. Wow, which is wild. So it just

1161
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: shows you how great the Tampa Bay Rays have been

1162
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: this season and how awful the NL Central is, where

1163
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and Yankees have much different records, but they're

1164
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: both ten games back in their respective divisions. Crazy stuff

1165
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: right there. Wow?

1166
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess this is the argument to

1167
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 2: get rid of divisions. Yeah, I mean I look at

1168
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 2: divisions as being important from a rivalry standpoint, and really

1169
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: that's that's the only standpoint, because I think there's something

1170
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: to be gained from the real vitriol and hatred that

1171
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 2: fans feel against in division rivals. I don't think it's

1172
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 2: always a great thing. Sometimes that vitriol pours out in

1173
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: really awful ways, but I do think it makes the

1174
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: product more interesting regionally, and since a lot of these

1175
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: these rivalries are these division rivalries are regional, I do

1176
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: think it does something to benefit the entertainment value of

1177
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: the regular season. I'm not sure it helps you out

1178
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: in the postseason. I'm not sure it gives you an

1179
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: equitable idea of what team should be seeded high or

1180
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 2: low based on what they or how they performed in

1181
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 2: the regular season.

1182
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 3: So I talked to my MOLB sort Usually I have

1183
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 3: a really friend who I used to work with that

1184
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 3: as a team reporter, and every month or so, usually

1185
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 3: three times a year, I would say during the baseball season,

1186
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 3: we catch up over the phone, and he just waxes

1187
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 3: poetic about everything he's seeing in the league, everything that

1188
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 3: he thinks, and it helps me get a sense because

1189
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 3: I can't watch the games. There's so many games and

1190
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 3: I only watched the first inning. These days with the nerpy,

1191
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 3: he catches me up on everything that's happening, and I

1192
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 3: go through each division and I say, I tell him

1193
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 3: the odds because he's not a game he's not like

1194
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 3: a huge betting guy, And I tell him, what you know,

1195
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 3: do you think this team can come back?

1196
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 5: Blah blah blah. And we were talking.

1197
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 3: This doesn't have to do a lot with the divisions

1198
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 3: that the Cardinals or the Yankees playing, but we were

1199
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 3: talking about the America League West, which I think is

1200
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 3: a perfect example of this. The Rangers are about five

1201
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 3: games up on the Astros. The Astros have won this

1202
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 3: division five out of the last six years. The only

1203
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 3: year they didn't win it was twenty twenty. They're in

1204
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 3: the weird shorten year. They are the Warriors of the West,

1205
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 3: like they always win that division. But this year, Texas

1206
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 3: having a great first half and I'm looking at the odds,

1207
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 3: I'm saying, well, the Astros are two to one to

1208
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 3: win this division. We expect regression from the Rangers, right,

1209
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 3: And he said yes, but I don't know how much

1210
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 3: Houston really cares about the winning the division part.

1211
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 5: And I was like, well, that's weird.

1212
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 3: Like to me, winning your division is like it used

1213
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 3: to be viewed as this, you gotta do it. It's

1214
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 3: the only way to make the playoffs. This in that

1215
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 3: go look at the World Series last year. Who was

1216
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 3: in the World Series, Philadelphia Phillies. They win the NLS

1217
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 3: last year, knew, So how much do these teams actually.

1218
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 5: Care about winning the division?

1219
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 3: Now that the new wildcard format is in place in

1220
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball? And last year, the first year of

1221
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 3: the new wildcard format, a wildcard team was a breath

1222
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 3: of from winning the World Series. So I think the

1223
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 3: division format I agree with Rich. I don't think it

1224
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 3: makes any sense anymore. I would get rid of it completely, completely,

1225
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 3: get rid of it.

1226
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: It's interesting because how things become trends. I just think

1227
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: back to it's a different sport. But hear me out,

1228
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: remember when Kawhi Leonard was with the Toronto Raptors And

1229
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: that's what really really gave load management a jolt sure

1230
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: where it's like, yeah, why stress yourself? Out in the

1231
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: regular season, just make sure you're healthy and then you

1232
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: can ramp it up and all as well. And now

1233
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: you're seeing things swing the other way where it's like, oh,

1234
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: so your body is kind of like breaking down and

1235
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: it's not ready to ramp up at a rapid pace

1236
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: like that. Who would have known? Like, so I apply

1237
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: that to baseball where it'd be really interesting with this

1238
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: new format, Jared, where if a wildcard team ends up

1239
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: winning it or has great success, or a couple of

1240
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: teams go have deep runs, where that might become more

1241
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: of a trend where how beneficial is it to win

1242
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: the division? If you don't see that whatsoever, I think

1243
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: you'll see it swing the exact opposite way, where it's

1244
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: like we got same thing with the NFL, now that

1245
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: there's only one buy Like if you're seeing one Seeds

1246
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: make deep runs and win a super Ball consistently all

1247
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: of a sudden, that matters a ton. If you're seeing

1248
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: one Seeds just fall by the wayside right like, it

1249
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: has this ripple effect. In terms of the trend there

1250
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: is no one who is a trendsetter more as an

1251
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: update anchor. Miss Isaac klowhen Krawn He's got another powerful

1252
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: update for us here. ISLA. What's going on, buddy?

1253
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Speaker 7: The dollar signs attached to it, and that's because we're

1254
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 7: talking about NBA free agency, the free agency frenzy. This morning,

1255
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 7: ESPN reporting Max Struce headed from Miami to the Cleveland

1256
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 7: Cavaliers on a four year, sixty three million dollars sign

1257
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 7: and trade deal. On Friday night, Memphis Grizzlies guard Desmond

1258
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 7: Bane agreed to a five year, two hundred and seven

1259
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 7: million dollar MAX extension, Indiana Pacers guards Tyreese Halliburton agreeing

1260
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 7: to a five year MAX extension that could be worth

1261
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 7: up to two undred and sixty million. Kyrie Irving resigned

1262
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 7: with the Dallas Mavericks for three years and one hundred

1263
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 7: and twenty six million. Guard Fred Van Vlied heading from

1264
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 7: the Toronto Raptors to the Houston Rockets on a three year,

1265
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 7: one hundred thirty million dollar deal. Draymond Green staying with

1266
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 7: Golden State for four years and one hundred million. The

1267
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 7: Lakers agreed to three year deals with Ruey Hatchima, as

1268
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 7: well as former Miami guard gave Vincent, three time All

1269
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 7: Star Chris Middleton staying with Milwaukee for three years one

1270
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 7: hundred and two million. ESPN reported today that EuroLeague MVP

1271
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 7: Sasha Vesenkova, six ' to nine stretch forward, has agreed

1272
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 7: to a three year, twenty million dollars deal with the

1273
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 7: Sacramento Kings. In Major League Baseball, on Friday night, the

1274
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 7: Arizona Diamondbacks defeat of the Angels in Anaheim six to two.

1275
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 7: Despite shohey Otani's thirtieth home run, which at four hundred

1276
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 7: and ninety three feet, was the longest home run of

1277
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 7: his career, the Tampa Bay Rays scored fifteen unanswered runs,

1278
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 7: including eight runs in the eighth inning, in a fifteen

1279
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 7: for win at Seattle Fellas all yours.

1280
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Speaker 1: Thank you, I Lowe. Awesome job. As always, Buddy, it

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Speaker 1: I thought we'd do something fun here because with the

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Speaker 1: perfect game Domingo Herman earlier this week for the Yankees,

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Speaker 1: it got me thinking about the most famous game you've

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Speaker 1: attended and also rich your playing career. Oh yeah, not

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Speaker 1: just as a fan, you have to pay tickets to

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Speaker 1: get into all you're cheating. As an athlete, yeah, he

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Speaker 1: gets to go to all the games for free, damn it.

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Speaker 1: But how about you here, either as a fan or

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Speaker 1: a player, what's the most famous game on your resume? Wow?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Curious player first? Okay, yeah, most important game you've ever

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Speaker 2: played in. Boy, these are great questions, because.

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Speaker 1: This is a good question.

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Speaker 2: My playing career obviously trump's anything that I did as

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Speaker 2: a spectator. All right, So I'll give you maybe like

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Speaker 2: my top three most memorable Okay, super Bowl forty six

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Speaker 2: against the New York Giants when I was playing with

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Speaker 2: the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Man we lost Manningham, freaking manning Ham, freaking Manningham.

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Speaker 2: That catch was spectacularly I mean Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I met got so many Giants fan friends from Long

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Speaker 3: Island that were texting you that day too.

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Speaker 1: That was a fun evening. Yeah, I bet so that

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Speaker 1: that was definitely one of them.

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Speaker 2: Playing in the Rose Bowl against USC as a Penn

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Speaker 2: State Nitney lion was awesome that two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 2: It was the two thousand and nine January first Rose Bowl.

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Speaker 2: We got our breaks beat off.

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Speaker 1: In that game.

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Speaker 5: That's a tough games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were a very good team. We were one

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Speaker 2: lost Penn State team. We got tuned up by Mark Sanchez.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure we got him drafted six overall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Was that the year where the punt went over

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Speaker 1: the guy's head and I was sweating it out because

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Speaker 1: USC had a big lead and you guys were catching up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I barely got We were in shing back, in ching back.

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Speaker 2: It just I'll tell you what, if that game was

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Speaker 2: seven quarters, we would have beat the Trojans and then

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Speaker 2: you know what another fun game, Another fun memorable game

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Speaker 2: was uh Patriots. When I was with them my rookie season,

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Speaker 2: we played the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in London at Wembley Stadium,

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Speaker 2: and that I remember walking into that that whole. First

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Speaker 2: of all, we practiced on a cricket pitch, and then

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Speaker 2: our week of practice leading up was different.

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Speaker 1: And then when you get to that stadium and you.

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Speaker 2: Realize, like I mean, hundreds and hundreds of thousands, millions

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Speaker 2: of fans have hoord in there to support soccer for

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Speaker 2: all these years, and they're all here for us.

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Speaker 1: They had no idea how to cheer for football.

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Speaker 2: This was still in the early phases of like phasing

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Speaker 2: back in NFL to Europe because it was two thousand

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Speaker 2: and nine then, and I remember they would start chanting

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01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 2: or cheering like when we were all in our huddles

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and I was just like, what.

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Speaker 1: Is going on? So awesome? I think I just picture

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Speaker 1: Belichick on the cricket pitch. That would be terrible, swinging

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Speaker 1: his whistle. Yeah. Yeah, So those were the top three.

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Speaker 2: I'll think about the spectator, but I want to hear

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Speaker 2: your guys, like, what are the best games you've been to?

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Speaker 3: So this is easy for me. I went to the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl two years ago, Rams Bengals. That was That

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Speaker 3: was a really good game of Super Bowl. I mean,

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Speaker 3: one of the better games, one of the better Super

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Speaker 3: Bowls in recent memory. You know, Bengals had a lead

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Speaker 3: pretty much the whole way, and then the Rams came

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01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,799
Speaker 3: back late and you know, the Cooper Cup and Eli

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01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 3: Apples stuff was fun and I had obviously a nosebleed seat.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know if you as are familiar with

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Speaker 3: how SOFI works, the standing room is actually pretty legit.

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Speaker 1: So I walked down. The first half, we watched from

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Speaker 1: our seats.

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Speaker 3: Then for the halftime show, I wanted a better angle

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01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 3: eminem and Snoop Dogg was freaking awesome. And then for

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Speaker 3: the second half, I watched from the fifty yard line

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Speaker 3: standing room, which was a fantastic vantage point. And I

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01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 3: remember I had MVP tickets on Aaron Donald and Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 3: And I remember thinking to myself, well, Cooper Cup, I

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01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 3: think it was two or three to one, A right.

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Speaker 1: That'd be nice.

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Speaker 3: And then Aaron Donald was like a ten or fifteen

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Speaker 3: to one ticket, and he had multiple plays, including the

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Speaker 3: final sack of the game that ended the game. And

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking to myself, well, he just won the MVP.

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Speaker 3: And you know, you're in the stadium, you don't know

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Speaker 3: who wins the MVP. I'm checking Twitter and it's Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 3: I ended up winning a few bucks, but not as

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Speaker 3: much it would have been if Aaron Donald. So that

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Speaker 3: was recent. You want to go historical, I this story

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Speaker 3: I tell all the time. One of the best stories

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Speaker 3: that I had have Game seven, two thousand and four

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Speaker 3: ALCS Yankees Red Soix. I was a freshman at Penn State. Obviously,

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01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 3: the Yankees were up three to zero in the series.

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Speaker 3: Red Sox come back to tie at three to three.

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Speaker 3: It was a Tuesday in October. I got a call

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Speaker 3: from my cousin that morning, the morning of the game. Hey,

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Speaker 3: I got an extra ticket. Can you make it to

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01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,560
Speaker 3: the Bronx tonight. I'm in State College, Pennsylvania. So I

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Speaker 3: get in my car. I was like, obviously, I get

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Speaker 3: in my car. I drive to the game. The game

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Speaker 3: did not go well. Kevin Brown got lit up in

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Speaker 3: the first inning. I think the Red Sox home runs

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Speaker 3: of that game. I think a grand slam in the

1389
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 3: first inning or he had a grand slam at some point.

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Speaker 5: It didn't go well.

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01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 3: Then the Yankee started coming back a little bit, and

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01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 3: Pedro Martinez came in to relief, you know, in relief,

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01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 3: and they started chanting the Who's Your Daddy? So that

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01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 3: was really fun. But that was really the only moment

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01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,719
Speaker 3: of the game for the Yankees. Red Sox ended up winning.

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Speaker 3: On the ride home, I got a ticket for talking

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01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 3: on my phone while driving man because.

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Speaker 5: I called my mom, Hey Mom, I'm on my way

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Speaker 5: back home.

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Get pulled over.

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01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 3: Get like a two hundred dollars ticket talking on my

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Speaker 3: phone and oh, by the way, I had a Spanish

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01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 3: midterm the next day, but I didn't get back home

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Speaker 3: till until like three in the morning.

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Speaker 5: I ended up getting a B on the midterm though,

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01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 5: which was good.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but that story I thought was a pretty That

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Speaker 3: was I would say one of my bigger, bigger games

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Speaker 3: that I've been to, besides the Super.

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01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: Bowl, the biggest one I've been to is the Bush

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Speaker 1: Push game.

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Speaker 5: Oh we were at that game.

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01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was at that game. I got to go

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01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: down to the sideline for that game because I was

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01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: working on the pregame show for Notre Dame that year.

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01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,759
Speaker 1: That's cool, and so you could go down the final

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01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: five minutes. It was insane because you could literally walk

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01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: behind Notre Dame's bench. I could just reach out to

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01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: like Jeff Samarja, the wide receiver and hit him on

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01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: the shoulder bed like, hey, good catch, Jeff. I was like,

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01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 1: they let us do this? How is this possible? But

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01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: I was right there and Notre Dame they sacked Matt Leonard.

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01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. It was third and there's a little

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01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: screen pass to Reggie Bush. He wiggles around it's fourth

1425
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: and nine. Lionerd hits Dwayne Jarrett for like sixty four yards.

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Speaker 1: Just you have to picture this. I'm on the sideline,

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Speaker 1: the place is going nuts. We're about to beat usc

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01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: They're going down and then Lioner converts and then the

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Speaker 1: bush bush and it was unbelievable. But that was the

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Speaker 1: most well known game that I've been to. Our guy,

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Speaker 1: Isaac b Loohincrown's got something for us.

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Speaker 7: One of the great things about sports is you can

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01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 7: just show up at a random, ordinary game and it

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01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 7: turns out to be something historic. Back during my reporting days,

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01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 7: I was covering the Lakers and they had a very

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01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 7: ordinary Sunday night game in two thousand and six against

1437
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 7: the Toronto Raptors, and that was Kobe Bryant's eighty one

1438
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 7: point game, right and the fun one of the many

1439
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 7: funny things that happened that night. He gets into the

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01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 7: postgame press conference, he just scored this historic eighty one

1441
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 7: point game. The Lakers had a rookie that season by

1442
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 7: the name of SoC Chavuyachitch at the time hardly played.

1443
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 7: So Kobe ha scored this eighty one point game, second

1444
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 7: most in NBA history and the fourth or fifth question

1445
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 7: of this historic press conference is, Kobe, how do you

1446
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 7: feel that Sasha Vujacic has been doing this season switch?

1447
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 1: And that guy was fired immediately.

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01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 7: Unfortunately now he actually ow was a national show on

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01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 7: TV and it's.

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Speaker 1: Me so real fast Rich as a fan, did you

1451
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: think of your most famous game you've been at?

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01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: Gosh, yeah, I mean it's a pretty pathetic. I well,

1453
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 2: it's for me, it's meaningful. I remember my dad kind

1454
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 2: of running into uh New York Giants styles Cowboys tickets

1455
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, and I had never even

1456
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 2: considered playing football because I was a lacrosse player growing up.

1457
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: And it was my uncle Nick happened into these tickets,

1458
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 2: and you know, because somebody was supposed to go with

1459
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 2: them and their side belled, and then he just gave

1460
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: them the tickets. He was like, yeah, my son's six,

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01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 2: so here's tickets. Find somebody to go with. And so

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01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 2: he invited my dad. And so I had never been

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01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 2: to an NFL game before, and frankly, until I was

1464
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 2: drafted by the Patriots, I had never gone to an

1465
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 2: NFL game since. So my first and only NFL game

1466
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 2: up until the point where I played was you know,

1467
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 2: tickets that my my uncle Nick got from a friend

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01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: who gave to my dad, And it was my first experience,

1469
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 2: you know, at the Metal Lands back then, and I

1470
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 2: remember saying to myself, like, man, wouldn't be cool to

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Speaker 2: play football, and then years later I was doing it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: It's just one of those moments where I was like,

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01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 2: my parents didn't have a ton of money, We didn't

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01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 2: go to a ton of games. We were like the

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01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 2: family that would go play go to like Nasau Coliseum

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01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 2: or Madison Square Garden when they were having like like

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01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:02,879
Speaker 2: summer league games are like uh and preview preseason preview

1479
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 2: games for the New York Knicks, like those are the

1480
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 2: games that we would catch. And so I remember that

1481
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,919
Speaker 2: being the first time it was at a real sporting

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01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 2: event and I was like, oh my god, this is

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01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 2: this is different and yeah, that was one of my

1484
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 2: fondest memories as a kid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's cool man, any of your thoughts, Feel free

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01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: to hit us up on Twitter. Always available for you

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01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 1: would love to know the most famous games that you've

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01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,879
Speaker 1: been at before, because I'm sure we'll get some doozies

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Speaker 1: at the no show at Jared Lee Smith at Ornberger

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Speaker 1: is where you can reach all of us. We've got

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Speaker 1: rich oron Berger, Penn State, All American. That's right, Rose Bowl,

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Speaker 1: one of the more famous games he played him. It's

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Speaker 1: usc last the outcome. FSR betting analyst Jared Smith is

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Speaker 1: with us on Brian No coming up next. One point

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Speaker 1: five billion dollars roughly in contracts that have been agreed

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Speaker 1: to an NBA free agency thus far. One of the

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Speaker 1: most interesting deals, though, is one that it's not for

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Speaker 1: much money at all. We'll have details for you. It

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Speaker 1: an NBA free agency thus far, around one point five

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Speaker 1: billion dollars not even a day in. And one of

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Speaker 1: the more interesting deals is Derek Rose going to the

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01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: Memphis Grizzlies. So it's just a two year deal, six

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Speaker 1: point five million dollars. But you can see the tie in.

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01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,440
Speaker 1: You think about Derek Rose, once a number one overall,

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01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: pick a lot of pressure, a lot of scrutiny, maybe

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01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: a mentor now to John Morant, former number two overall.

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01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 1: Pick a lot of pressure, a lot of scrutiny. So

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01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: you can see the thought process there. And you know,

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01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: Derreck Rose he's not just you know, uh, I don't know,

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01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 1: like a mascot or something like that. He can still

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01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: give you some minutes off the bench, but he's more

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01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 1: there to be a mentor for John Moran. I see

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01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: the thought process behind that. Of course, the jokes are everywhere.

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01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: Our producer Brandon, he mentioned to me that people are

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01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 1: joking around that this is now guns and Roses is

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01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: with John Moran Dereck Rose being there, of course, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's a smart move. I can absolutely see

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01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 1: what they're trying to accomplish there. Yeah, I can too.

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Speaker 2: The headlines that I was reading were, you know, here

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01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 2: here comes John Moran's babysitter. You know, somebody who can

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01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 2: kind of hold his hand through all this and you know,

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01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 2: keep an eye on him and all that. I don't know,

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01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 2: look the way I the way I think about what

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01:18:56,439 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies have done is they are trying to surround

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01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:07,759
Speaker 2: John Morant with as much veteran leadership as they possibly can.

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01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 2: Like the Dylan allowing Dylan Brooks to leave, bringing in

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01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 2: Marcus Smart in trade, bringing in Derek Rose like. All

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Speaker 2: of those signaled to me that they want grown ups.

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Speaker 1: In the room.

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Speaker 2: They know that they have a superstar talent in John Morant,

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01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 2: but they desperately want grown ups in the room.

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Speaker 5: It makes sense to me that's what I would do.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: The question is how is Jah going to accept that.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 3: I'm not in the I'm not in those conversations. But

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01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 3: if I was the Grizzlies and I was looking at

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01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 3: my roster and I saw all of the talent at

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01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 3: the top, I would be bringing in guys that can

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01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 3: help get the best out of that talent. Because, let's

1548
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 3: be honest, there's a lot of moves that were made.

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01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 3: Memphis hasn't done much because they don't need to do much.

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01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 3: They've got an unbelievable roster. They just needed to just

1551
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 3: need it to all come together and coalesce.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to be proficient in emoji reading these

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01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 1: days to get to get a sense of job. But

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01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 1: he just tweeted a couple of emojis, save to be positive.

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01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: One was a rose, you know, so he seems to

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01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 1: be on board with this. You don't read emojis in

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Speaker 1: this day and age. All right, Coming up next, what

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Speaker 1: Maybe the most interesting deal are the ones that have

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Speaker 1: should be So. NBA Free Agency is here and off

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Speaker 1: to the races, beginning at six pm on a news

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01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: dump Friday. I don't know why they're behold it to

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01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: it's got to be June thirtieth, gott to be June thirtieth,

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Speaker 1: But it's a Friday evening I don't care June thirtieth,

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Speaker 1: whatever holiday weekendo. Yeah, not not wise, but so far

1576
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 1: no move with James Harden he opted in Philly, is

1577
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: looking for a sign and trade opportunity. Also, Damian Lillard

1578
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 1: still with the Blazers, and Blazer's brass says, yeah, we

1579
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: want to build around Dame. It's like, but he wants

1580
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 1: to play with veterans and compete for a championship right now,

1581
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 1: and that's not what you guys have right now. So

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01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 1: I find that to be as interesting, if not more

1583
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: than everything else that has happened. Where Kyrie reups with Dallas,

1584
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: Draymond reups with the Golden State Warriors, Chris Middleton reups

1585
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 1: with the Bucks. I think it's Dame still with the

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01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 1: Blazers and the Beard where does he end up. I

1587
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 1: think those are two huge dominoes here, and bigger than

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01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: what we've seen thus far.

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01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think maybe it's public relations where, you know,

1590
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: very similar to what's his name, dun Levy when he

1591
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 2: took over for Bob Myers up there in the Bay

1592
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: Area with the Golden State Warriors saying we are not

1593
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 2: going to trade Jordan Poole. And then it's literally like

1594
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 2: that SpongeBob two minutes, like we are trading Jordan Poole.

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01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 4: You know.

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01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 2: It's like, so, I don't know, I don't know exactly

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01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 2: why they're saying the things they're saying in Portland. Maybe

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01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 2: it's just to quiet down a fan base who absolutely

1599
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 2: loves Dame Lillard. And in the meantime, you know, obviously

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01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 2: they feel like they did pretty well for themselves in

1601
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 2: the NBA Draft and if they can get a lot

1602
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 2: back for Dame, they will. But it's just a matter

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01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 2: of keeping the fan base happy in the in the

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01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 2: in between times, or it's keeping Dame happy because if

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01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 2: they don't get what they want from a trade, do

1606
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 2: you really want want the front office dangling you out

1607
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 2: there like a prop, you know, Or do you want

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01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 2: the front office saying no, no, no, no, dam this has

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01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 2: been the plan the whole time.

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Speaker 1: We want you here.

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Speaker 2: And so I think it's I think it's a little

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01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 2: bit of liar's poker going on with Portland.

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Speaker 1: How much did they just give Jeremy Grant? Yeah, like

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01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: one sixty somewhere around there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're Dame's agent, if your Dame, are

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01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 3: you not looking at that? And you're saying, hmm, are

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01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 3: we sure that that's the move that we want to

1618
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 3: make first?

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01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 5: Like you right?

1620
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 3: And and if I'm building a team, I'm making sure

1621
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 3: the star is ready, is set first, and then I'm

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01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 3: building around him. Well, the Blazers again, I don't know

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01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 3: what their cap looks like. I don't know the behind

1624
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 3: the scenes. But when you give and I know that

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01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 3: the money too is becoming one sixty over five years

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01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 3: is actually I would say, like average based on what

1627
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 3: we're seeing. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but it's

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01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 3: it's it's definitely not as egregious as it was a

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01:23:58,720 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 3: few years ago.

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Speaker 5: It feels like that's the guy that the Blazers.

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01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 1: Are trying to build around.

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01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 3: When you see five years, one hundred and sixty million

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01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 3: dollars to Jeremy Grant.

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01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 5: That would confuse me.

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01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 3: I think it actually makes the situation more difficult to

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01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 3: handicap when you put a guy like that in the

1637
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 3: spotlight and the crosshairs before you get the name situation

1638
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 3: figured out. I don't know what's I'll be honest, I

1639
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 3: think that situation in Portland right now is deteriorating very fast.

1640
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 3: And I don't know what the answer is to fix it.

1641
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna compare it to what's happening with the

1642
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 3: Angels in Shoe a Otani because it's just it's apples

1643
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 3: to oranges. But the comparison feels sort of similar in

1644
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 3: terms of there's this star player that needs to be

1645
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 3: paid and compensated accordingly, yet there are other players on

1646
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 3: his team that are getting just as much, if not

1647
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 3: more money.

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01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 5: I don't know.

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01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 3: Maybe Dame wanted Jeremy Grant and that's why I again,

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01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 3: I'm not privy to those conversa, but I thought it

1651
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 3: was unique that Grant got the money he got when

1652
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 3: he got it, with all the Dame stuff circling.

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01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: Now, I hear you. I just think that it's bigger

1654
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 1: than Portland. You know, it's bigger than the Blazers. Where

1655
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:16,759
Speaker 1: this is just so interesting, where a team that wants

1656
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: to compete is not in a position to do so,

1657
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:24,799
Speaker 1: and they have this beloved player and it's not ideal

1658
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: to trade him. Damian Lillard has been a gift from

1659
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 1: the basketball gods for Portland. That guy has been unbelievable.

1660
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: He's been a star player, he's been mature, he's been

1661
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 1: a leader, he's been everything you could want him to be,

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01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: and now they're in a position where they're not in

1663
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,839
Speaker 1: contention for a title, which is what he ultimately wants.

1664
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,520
Speaker 1: And you're looking at this and saying, are young nucleus,

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01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 1: they're babies. It's Scoot Henderson, it's shade and sharp. You know,

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01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 1: we should move Dame and get assets for him. It

1667
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: makes more sense to do that so we can have

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01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: a better future going forward. But I understand why you

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01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 1: don't want to do that because of what he's meant

1670
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: to that organization. This is like the Niners. Do you

1671
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: move on from Joe Montana? Do the Colts move on

1672
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: from Bayton Manning? You could cross sports with this. That's

1673
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 1: how it is. It's fair. And look at Denver, like

1674
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: we always talk about Portland, it's not a free agency destination,

1675
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: which is true. Look at the Nuggets. The core of

1676
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 1: their team, their draft picks, it's Jokic, it's Jamal Murray,

1677
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: it's MPJ. That's the nucleus of their team. And so

1678
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 1: if you can move Dame and it couples with all

1679
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,520
Speaker 1: these young guns, that's the move to make. Look at Boston,

1680
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: they moved Paul Pierce beloved, They moved, Kevin Garnett highly

1681
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: thought of, and they built their future that turned into

1682
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown. That's why they're relevant now.

1683
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 1: So I understand the here and now is, Man, we

1684
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 1: don't want to trade the star. We don't want to

1685
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: trade the fan favorite. That's the best thing you can

1686
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,680
Speaker 1: do for your future. That is what you have to

1687
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: do as a competent organization.

1688
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 2: And it's uncomfy like and the fact that Dame was

1689
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 2: drafted into this organization. It's the only place he's played

1690
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 2: since he's been in the NBA, and he's become beloved

1691
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 2: by this fan base. You know, that's an important part

1692
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 2: of the equation. But also what's next, what's the future.

1693
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: Going to look like?

1694
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 2: How how well is he going to age in the

1695
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 2: window that you have to win From a money standpoint,

1696
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 2: salary cap, you know what you have coming up into

1697
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 2: your system if you're a major League baseball team, like,

1698
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 2: all those things need to be factored in. This just happened,

1699
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 2: for example, with the Las Vegas Raiders. Like you said,

1700
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 2: it crosses all sports. Derek Carr. The only place he's

1701
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 2: ever played the Raiders and now in two cities. But

1702
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 2: the reality is like, as uncomfy as the end of

1703
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 2: Derek Carr's story has been, and as much as he's

1704
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 2: done for that organization over the course of his time,

1705
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 2: it's actually a pretty good comparison because if you think

1706
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 2: about it, Portland Trailblazers and the Raiders. Over the time

1707
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 2: that Dame's been in Portland and Derek Carr has been

1708
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 2: with the Raiders, not a lot of winning, you know,

1709
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 2: I don't get me wrong. Individually, very impressive players, but

1710
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 2: not a lot to show for it. So it's a

1711
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 2: difficult thing to give up on somebody who's been very,

1712
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:31,719
Speaker 2: very loyal to your fan base and to your franchise.

1713
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: But it's just not working.

1714
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 2: And so at some point somebody's got a blink, and

1715
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 2: it's almost always the franchise, and Derek Carr has hard feelings.

1716
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 2: He just came out and said it. On the other

1717
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 2: side of his trade, he was like, I'm really upset

1718
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 2: that they benched me for the final two games. I

1719
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 2: didn't like how things ended with the Oakland or excuse me,

1720
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 2: with the Las Vegas Raiders. I guarantee you, whenever Dame

1721
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 2: gets traded, it's gonna be uncomfy. But then moving forward,

1722
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 2: maybe both sides, Maybe Dame and the Portland Trailblazers will

1723
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 2: benefit from it.

1724
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 3: Perhaps I think there's This is why I'll be honest,

1725
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 3: This is why the NBA offseason is better than the

1726
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 3: rare season. We care more about where he's gonna end

1727
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 3: up than what the outcome will be.

1728
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 5: I wish that I had.

1729
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 3: More more you know, meetingess to bite into with this story,

1730
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 3: But until we actually see the result, this is the

1731
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 3: most speculatory thing that we can discuss in sports media

1732
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 3: where a guy will be traded to because there are

1733
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 3: so many conversations we are not privy to. We don't

1734
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 3: even know if Dame really wants to stay in port

1735
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 3: like he says he kind of does, but we don't

1736
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 3: know for sure. We don't know anything about this story

1737
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 3: besides the teams that are being floated to us from

1738
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 3: people that are supposedly close to his circle. Like I'm

1739
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 3: I'm I did a quick Google search for Damian Lillard

1740
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 3: and the amount of things that come up that are

1741
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 3: not even about Damian, Like I'm seeing a windhorse story

1742
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,839
Speaker 3: about Tyrese Maxi that could be a piece. I'm seeing

1743
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 3: Draymond Green resigning as like a domino effect that maybe

1744
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:19,719
Speaker 3: now Golden State not right, Like, there's so many stories

1745
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 3: about Damian Lillard that have nothing to do with Damian Lillard,

1746
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 3: and then you throw Jeremy Grant's name into.

1747
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 1: The mix too.

1748
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 3: It's such a unique situation. And this is this is

1749
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:31,719
Speaker 3: why the intrigue with the NBA offseason is fascinating. Because

1750
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 3: of the regulations that are in place with how you

1751
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 3: can move players around and the salary cap increasing, there

1752
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 3: are endless realities that we can live in of which

1753
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 3: team Dame Lillard will play for next year, and I

1754
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 3: have no idea which one's the actual right answer.

1755
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know I like the Dame Lillard Derreck

1756
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 1: Carr comparison. Yeah, I get that. But what's crazy is

1757
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 1: you look at the seasons that they're coming off of

1758
01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, second lowest completion percentage in his career, second

1759
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 1: lowest passer rating in his career, and that the all

1760
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 1: day it was worse was when he was a rookie,

1761
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:09,680
Speaker 1: he tied for the most interceptions in his career with fourteen,

1762
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 1: and so they ended up benching him and then releasing him.

1763
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 1: They got nothing for him, you know what I mean,

1764
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,680
Speaker 1: because he was coming off of a dud season. Oh

1765
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 1: you look at Dame. Dame is coming off a stellar season.

1766
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:26,759
Speaker 1: Dame was lights out last season. So now's the time.

1767
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: If you're gonna move him, it's the time to do

1768
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:32,679
Speaker 1: it now instead of when he starts getting older, if

1769
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: he starts to decline a little bit and the return

1770
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 1: isn't gonna be as great. That's why the time is now.

1771
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 1: The other part of this is with James Harden, he

1772
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 1: will get moved, but to where and for how much?

1773
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:49,640
Speaker 1: And what I love about James Harden is he's like

1774
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 1: this car. If you will right, there's some more mileage.

1775
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,599
Speaker 1: The car isn't as good as it once was, but

1776
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's good every now and then. It was

1777
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,600
Speaker 1: stellar against Boston for two games in the play he

1778
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: scored over forty points. So there are times the car

1779
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 1: is legit. But you've got to overpay for this car,

1780
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's what teams are

1781
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 1: faced with, where Philly is like, yeah, no, we can't

1782
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 1: do a long term extension, and these other teams are like, okay,

1783
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 1: he can't be extended elsewhere. It's just gonna be a

1784
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 1: one year deal. How much do you give up for

1785
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: the guy who can still be an asset but far

1786
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 1: from the ultimate asset. Now that's a tough thing to solve.

1787
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:29,679
Speaker 1: It's really tough.

1788
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 2: It's really tough, and yeah, thank you for cleaning that up,

1789
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 2: because it's so funny. At this point in the offseason

1790
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 2: in the NFL, how many other things have transpired that

1791
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 2: in my brain I had it as Derek Carr being traded,

1792
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 2: but it was unsuccessful. And so the point you made

1793
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 2: is well heard and well founded about Dame. It's sell

1794
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:52,719
Speaker 2: high time in Portland, and so we'll see what happens.

1795
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 2: I mean, the offseason is still young. In terms of

1796
01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:01,759
Speaker 2: James Harden. I think the the comparison to a car

1797
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 2: is actually, you know, we're comparing we're comparing.

1798
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 1: Dame to Derek Carr.

1799
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 2: We're comparing James Harden to an actual car, actual car

1800
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 2: depreciating value asset. You know, I look at this as

1801
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 2: a classic car because when you purchase a classic car,

1802
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 2: and I never have, but I've got a lot of

1803
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 2: buddies who have. What you're doing is you're taking on

1804
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 2: a project. You're taking on something that when everybody, when

1805
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 2: you get it, the first thing that happens is everybody goes, oh, man,

1806
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 2: that things sweet. Oh man, that's cherry. Man, that's great

1807
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 2: stuff right there. Oh what do you got under the hood?

1808
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 2: Whoa man? That sucker can still kick you. Hear it

1809
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 2: when you rev the engine, man, man. But then you

1810
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 2: drive it three times in it's back in the shop

1811
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 2: and you're like, damn it, all right, how much is

1812
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 2: it going to cost? And then you know, you get

1813
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 2: it fixed up, you get tuned up, and then you know,

1814
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 2: you rev that engine again. You you're like, yeah, buddy.

1815
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 1: Let's get let's fired up.

1816
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 2: And everybody's everybody around town is like, look at the beard,

1817
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 2: Look at the beard. And then it's back in the shop.

1818
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 2: You know, this is the problem is you will overpay

1819
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 2: for it. But if the excitement from the fan base

1820
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 2: is worth it, well, then maybe.

1821
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 1: It's worth it.

1822
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 2: It's really gonna be again, it's gonna go back to

1823
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 2: what you actually need at this point versus what you're

1824
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 2: actually getting. If you're not so much worried about like

1825
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 2: the on court performance, which they're I can promise you

1826
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 2: there are certain teams right now who are not worried

1827
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 2: about the on come on court performance. In the twenty

1828
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 2: three to twenty four basketball season. There just are There

1829
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 2: are certain teams who know they're not going anywhere this season.

1830
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 2: They're still building for the future. And maybe if you

1831
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 2: splash James Harden across some banners, you'll get people to

1832
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 2: buy some jerseys, You'll get people excited. I think that's

1833
01:34:57,439 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 2: if he gets traded anywhere, it's gonna be to a

1834
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 2: team who's probably not close to a championship. They're they're

1835
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 2: going to they're going to be busy building, and he's

1836
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,520
Speaker 2: going to be with a bunch of young pops.

1837
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:15,680
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm seeing Boston, I'm seeing Miami Clippers.

1838
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 3: Clippers, Well, the Clippers, I think you're hardened, hardened Clippers, Dame.

1839
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 5: Heat Like if I had to again, if I had to,

1840
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 5: and I don't know, and I don't have.

1841
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 3: Any inside information, I'm just telling you what I've read

1842
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 3: and based off of my sports experience, where I could

1843
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,600
Speaker 3: see him going, I would say those with spots for

1844
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 3: day Miami makes sense.

1845
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 1: And I think for Harden, the Clippers like.

1846
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 5: He just he fits Like what do the Clippers have more?

1847
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 3: I feel like they already have a bunch of those

1848
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,600
Speaker 3: cars in their garage.

1849
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 1: Kawhia.

1850
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 3: It's like Bruce Wayne. When he goes into the bat cave,

1851
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 3: there's all those batmobiles. They're waiting for him to drive

1852
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:58,759
Speaker 3: off the lot. I don't know which one you choose,

1853
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 3: but man, the this is this league really.

1854
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 5: Does surprise you sometimes.

1855
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked if there is another Shuter out

1856
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 3: there that we are not giving a.

1857
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 5: Full attention span two.

1858
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 3: But it's just it's so hard from us in this

1859
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 3: in this situation to predict that, like I want. I

1860
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 3: wish that I can get ahead of this and tell

1861
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 3: you where he's gonna go, because I bet that team

1862
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 3: to win the NBA title tomorrow. But I'm also not

1863
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 3: that keen on NBA futures, especially at this stage. Also, defensively,

1864
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 3: I think he needs to go to a team that

1865
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 3: already has a solid defensive.

1866
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm talking about both James Harden and Damian Lillard.

1867
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 5: I think both of those guys.

1868
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 3: More so, Dame needs to be on a team that

1869
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 3: already has a foundation a culture of defense. That's why

1870
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 3: Miami makes it top of sense, because I think that's

1871
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 3: the one thing he lacks.

1872
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, I think he fits in perfectly with

1873
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 1: Miami culture.

1874
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 3: Especially after losing Strus and Vincent. They need shooters, right,

1875
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 3: I think that I'll be honest, That to me is

1876
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 3: my final answer.

1877
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 1: He's going to eat. Yeah, if he goes anywhere, I

1878
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 1: think it would be a perfect fit. I don't know

1879
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 1: what Miami would give up, no idea that right that

1880
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 1: if that would be appeasing to Portland or not. But

1881
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,599
Speaker 1: in terms of Dame fitting in with Miami, oh gosh,

1882
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: you'd be a perfect fit. That's that whole foundation is

1883
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 1: built on grinding, you know, being relentless. Oh, he'd be

1884
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 1: perfect with Jimmy Butler. But I don't know if that

1885
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 1: deal will be made. As far as Harden, the pursuit

1886
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 1: of him, it reminds me of I have so many

1887
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,680
Speaker 1: poker comparisons today. It reminds me of someone being on

1888
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:37,680
Speaker 1: tilt at the poker table and you might just make

1889
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:41,679
Speaker 1: another risky decision just because you're upset that you lost before.

1890
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 1: That's the Clippers. Yeah, the Clippers have been making these

1891
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 1: big bets and it hasn't worked. It hasn't worked. They're

1892
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 1: on tilt and now like, let's go for Harden, Like

1893
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 1: that's going all in with like ten three off suit.

1894
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's a little disrespectful for Arden, like ten eight.

1895
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make it exactly, but I

1896
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 1: think that's a decision on tilt.

1897
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 3: Ace King most overrated hand in poker. That's a that's

1898
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 3: nothing there and it's treated like you have everything you got.

1899
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it can't turn into a great hand,

1900
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 3: but pre flop hold him. Ace King is the most

1901
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 3: overrated hand.

1902
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 1: So the beard is big slick what you're telling him?

1903
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, Actually, I don't know how overrated James Harden is.

1904
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 3: I think he's rated properly based off of I think

1905
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 3: I think I think big slick.

1906
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 2: You say any of these draft picks that that's as

1907
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 2: king to me because it's like.

1908
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be something good.

1909
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 3: Call the flop looks big slick is a first round

1910
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 3: lottery pick.

1911
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

1912
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 5: And Bennett right, Yeah.

1913
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: It's Victor. It is Uh, it's scoot up there in

1914
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 1: port them.

1915
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Victor's more like pocket rockets might Victor

1916
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:49,839
Speaker 3: might be the surest guy.

1917
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:54,000
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1918
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:57,240
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1919
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Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks sometimes make audibles, right, Yeah, remember what was

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Speaker 1: it Joe Montana against the Broncos in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: What was he saying? Black fifty nine Razor, black fifty

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Speaker 1: nine Razor. That's what I'm doing right there. That Oh mahah.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the playmakers list in a second. But

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Speaker 1: I just saw a tweet from one Jared Smith. Oh

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Speaker 1: oh boy, and he shouted out our show here, he said,

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Speaker 1: Lively debate on Fox Sports Radio, shouting out the show guy,

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Speaker 1: very well done. And he quote tweeted you rich and

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Speaker 1: it just says or named NFL commish, like if you

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Speaker 1: were COMMISSI, this is what you would mention Lively on Twitter. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The most I've seen him get involved with the social

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Speaker 3: media debate.

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Speaker 1: During a show I Love Commissi Rich says, hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: new sports betting rules. Players can't bet against their own team,

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Speaker 1: and players can't bet on player props other than that.

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Speaker 1: Have fun problem solve? It should be this simple. I

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Speaker 1: will make you a bet, yes, go ahead, that players

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Speaker 1: will never ever, ever ever be allowed to bet on

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Speaker 1: NFL games.

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Speaker 5: I like this. I think this should be a Mayo bet.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, he has to drink mayo every year that

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Speaker 1: players can't bet? I love yes, Yeah, let's do like

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Speaker 1: the reverse Bobby Bonia.

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Speaker 2: It's got twelve years left of getting deferred the salary. Gosh,

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Speaker 2: mayonnaise on this.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I look here, here's what I will say. I just

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Speaker 2: literally gag thinking about that.

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Speaker 5: And I'm sorry to bring up the PTSD there.

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Speaker 2: Putting mayonnaise and coffee for those who haven't partaken.

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Speaker 1: Not good? Not good? All right? Will they ever ever

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Speaker 1: allow gambling to go? Well?

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Speaker 2: I should say NFL players to bet on the NFL

1962
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Speaker 2: in an I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say yeah, I really, honestly,

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Speaker 2: I feel firmly about this because I I think there

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Speaker 2: are certain things. I think that there are certain things

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Speaker 2: that the players will just roll over and take from

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Speaker 2: the owners.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, here's one thing I'll say, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: think about this. Would the NBA ever allow officials to

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Speaker 1: bet on games? But that's different, But just just okay,

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Speaker 1: I will say, but but right we all know that

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Speaker 1: would never happen. I would never. I don't think that.

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Speaker 1: But who has a bigger impact on the result of

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Speaker 1: the game. Is it the players or is it the officials?

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Speaker 1: If they're not letting the officials gamble, they're not letting

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Speaker 1: the players gamble. Are you ready for a loophole?

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Speaker 3: So the NFL players were allowed to bet on the

1977
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 3: match yesterday or two days ago which involved NFL players.

1978
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Speaker 3: That's Travis Kelsey and Patrick there's loophole.

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Speaker 2: And also, like you have players who are legitimately upset

1980
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Speaker 2: by this, and you have other sports that allow it boxing,

1981
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Speaker 2: I mean not in every single uh uh whatever you

1982
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Speaker 2: call it classification, but.

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Speaker 1: There's there, there are.

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Speaker 2: The majority of boxers are able to at very least

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Speaker 2: bet on themselves to win. Yeah, you know, so there's

1986
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Speaker 2: precedent for this. And and again I feel like this

1987
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Speaker 2: is gonna be one of those issues where say it's

1988
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Speaker 2: an important player gets busted on a technicality, something stupid,

1989
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Speaker 2: like it's like this, right, training camp, he runs to

1990
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Speaker 2: McDonald's to get breakfast for the rest of the offensive

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Speaker 2: line or the rest of the tight ends, and how

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Speaker 2: about this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, George Kittle. Okay.

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Speaker 2: He leaves training camp and he runs out to Mickey

1995
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Speaker 2: D's to get some meg mcmuffins for everybody. And while

1996
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Speaker 2: he's out, he places a bet on his Iowa Hawk

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Speaker 2: guys to beat Michigan this upcoming season.

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Speaker 1: Fine, all right, and then all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 1: NFL goes, whoaa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 2: You were stopped at the red light as you were

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Speaker 2: turning out of the facility. That's still considered on team grounds. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: we can go locate you. You're suspended. You're suspended for

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Speaker 2: six games, and that helps tank the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers chances of having some early season success. You

2005
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Speaker 2: will have mutiny in San Francisco. There will be players

2006
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Speaker 2: just absolutely flummoxed by this. Telling you, there's going to

2007
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 2: come a point where either it's going to be an

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01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 2: important player is suspended or there's going to be enough

2009
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Speaker 2: rally of support behind players wanting equal opportunity to bet

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Speaker 2: on everything that these owners are allowed to bet on.

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Speaker 1: I can see it being relaxed in other ways where hey,

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Speaker 1: maybe you can you can bet at the team facility,

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Speaker 1: you can enter a sports walking sports book is the

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Speaker 1: one I think that makes zero sense to me. I

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01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:28,720
Speaker 1: can see that being relaxed. I can never I can

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Speaker 1: never see players betting on NFL games being relaxed. Think

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Speaker 1: about Beate Rose, a manager betting on baseball who obviously

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Speaker 1: has an impact. There's no way there would ever allow that. Ever,

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Speaker 1: Like the integrity of what you're seeing will be in

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Speaker 1: question if players are betting on the results. You can

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Speaker 1: never have Here's here's my follow up to Rich.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if this is like thinking too

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Speaker 3: many steps ahead, but I'm curious Rich's thoughts here as.

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Speaker 1: A former player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are there's outcry for this right now, right

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Jones, a couple other players.

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Speaker 1: Are you trying like to me?

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Speaker 3: If I'm a player and i know I'm already making

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Speaker 3: money on this, I'm speaking out and I'm addressing my

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01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 3: thoughts and I'm making my opinions known. But I might

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01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 3: use this as a bargaining chip to get more the

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Speaker 3: next time the CBA gets announced, I would use gambling

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Speaker 3: right now. I would say, we should be able to

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Speaker 3: bet all this stuff, and then obviously the answer is

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Speaker 3: gonna be no. From the NFL right, that to me

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01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 3: is clear players want more money because they want to

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Speaker 3: bet or whatever than they're being told no, they can't bet. Okay,

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Speaker 3: next time CBA gets negotiated, well you're not letting us bet.

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Speaker 5: How about you add.

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Speaker 3: A zero to the amount of money we get from

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Speaker 3: gambling right from like to me, from a business perspective,

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Speaker 3: that's how I would look at it. I would say, Okay,

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna give us this, but maybe I can

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Speaker 3: use it as a negotiating tool later. So I think

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Speaker 3: you might be hearing a lot of outcry right now,

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01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, it might all

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Speaker 3: just be rhetoric for when the negotiation happens in a

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Speaker 3: couple of years, whenever the CBA gets renegotiated, We're going

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01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:09,799
Speaker 3: to use that to our advantage.

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Speaker 5: We're going to keep that bargaining chip in our back

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Speaker 5: pocket to use it a later time.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm first of all, you're you're not wrong, You're

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent that.

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Speaker 1: I'm a business man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this will be used as leverage, absolutely, and everything

2056
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Speaker 2: is leverage.

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Speaker 1: Look in a business, in.

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Speaker 2: A contractual dispute, whether we're talking about player team level,

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01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:35,759
Speaker 2: we're talking about CBA, so so entirety of the player

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01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 2: union versus ownership level. It doesn't matter how big or

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01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 2: small the contract. Everything is leverage. Everything you know, and

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01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 2: you could fight, You can fight to the nth degree. Now,

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01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 2: you want to focus on the big issues, but if

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01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 2: they're in the absence of big issues, you gotta make small.

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Speaker 1: Issues big issues.

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Speaker 2: So if you're going to, for example, use this as

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Speaker 2: leverage and say that this dispute goes on for years,

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01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:04,639
Speaker 2: players are being inappropriately suspended per the players, right, So okay,

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01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 2: what does the NFL have to.

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01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 1: Change per the players? Is it? Is it the rules.

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01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 2: And change around the rules or is it change around

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01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:16,640
Speaker 2: the level of punishment? So what if we decrease these suspensions,

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01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 2: we don't make them as severe, but we keep all

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Speaker 2: the rules in place.

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Speaker 1: Is that gonna? Is that moving the line? Enough? Okay? Well,

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Speaker 1: I just want to know, ye, Rich, I want to

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01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:30,839
Speaker 1: know how many years of me on a yearly basis

2078
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 1: reminding you that NFL players how many years until you

2079
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,760
Speaker 1: get sick and tired of you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was going.

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Speaker 2: To have it one egg, I'll tell you, because I

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01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 2: think it's coming sooner than you think. So I mean,

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01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 2: I'm and sooner than you think. Maybe maybe years. But

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01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 2: I do think it's going to happen because I I

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01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 2: heard people just like you, Brian, say the NFL will

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01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 2: never have or put a team in Las Vegas at

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01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 2: I heard them say that as recently as five years ago.

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Speaker 1: Very very valid point.

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Speaker 2: And then Las valle The offered nearly a billion dollars

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Speaker 2: and the NFL went.

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Speaker 1: You know what that second thought, that's a pretty good idea. Yeah,

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01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna give you a moon comparison, Okay,

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Speaker 1: right around the corner, a moon comparison based on what

2094
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 1: you just said. First though, Isaac Low and Cron who

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01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:30,839
Speaker 1: is from another galaxy? All right? The moon is not Isaac,

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01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 1: he is at the very minimum Jupiter. He's got an

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Speaker 1: update for us, I Loo, what's going on? Buddy? Why?

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much? And let's start with day two

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Speaker 7: of NBA Free agency at ESPN reporting Max truce Head.

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Speaker 7: It from Miami to the Cleveland Cavaliers on a four year,

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Speaker 7: sixty three million dollars sign and trade deal, and that

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Speaker 7: the Los Angeles Lakers have agreed to a two year

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Speaker 7: deal with free agent center Jackson Hayes. On Friday night,

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Speaker 7: Memphis Grizzlies guard Desmond Bane agreed to a five year,

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Speaker 7: two hundred and seven million dollar MAX extension in he

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Speaker 7: Hadna PACER's guard Tyrese Haliburton agreed to a five year

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Speaker 7: MAX extension that could be worth up to two hundred

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Speaker 7: and sixty million. Kyrie Irving Reese signing with the Dallas

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Speaker 7: Mavericks for three years at one hundred and twenty six mil.

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Speaker 7: Guard Fred Van Vliet heading from Toronto to the Houston

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Speaker 7: Rockets on a three year, one hundred thirty million dollar deal.

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Speaker 7: Draymond Green stays with Golden State for four years and

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Speaker 7: one hundred million. In Major League Baseball, Friday night, the

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Speaker 7: Arizona Diamondbacks defeat of the Angels in Anaheim six to two,

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Speaker 7: despite sho hey Otani's thirtieth home run, which at four

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Speaker 7: hundred and ninety three feet, was the longest home run

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Speaker 7: of his career. Also Friday night, the Tampa Bay Ray

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Speaker 7: scored fifteen unanswered runs, including eight runs in the eighth

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Speaker 7: inning and a fifteen to four triumph at Seattle Fellas

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Speaker 7: all yours I.

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Speaker 1: here's your Moon comparison. Rich, try this on for some hours,

2128
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Speaker 1: and I hear you. There were people saying there will

2129
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Speaker 1: never be an NFL team in Las Vegas ever ever,

2130
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:14,800
Speaker 1: and there is one right now. And so now you're thinking, well,

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01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:18,640
Speaker 1: maybe people are saying no NFL players will be able

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01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 1: to bet on NFL games. That could change too. It'd

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Speaker 1: be like, this is the comparison. In my mind, it's

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Speaker 1: like someone looking at us landing on the Moon, and

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Speaker 1: there was a lot we well, that'll never happen, and

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Speaker 1: it happened. So next up Jupiter, We're gonna land on Jupiter, right, Like, no,

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01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 1: that's never gonna happen. Granted, something happened where there's a

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01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,599
Speaker 1: team in Vegas. That doesn't mean the next step is

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01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 1: NFL players betting on NFL games. That's never gonna happen

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01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,040
Speaker 1: because it's not beneficial for the NFL.

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01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:55,680
Speaker 2: I'm not a big ultimatum guy, because I'm I'm I

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01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 2: don't hate the words always and never, because I think

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01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 2: they're important for certain and things, you know, marriages.

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01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:03,599
Speaker 1: I like the idea.

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01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:07,799
Speaker 2: I'm a traditionalist of staying with you know, one person

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01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:09,759
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life and building a strong

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01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 2: family and doing those things so always makes sense sometimes,

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01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 2: you know, But I am a realist. I also know

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01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 2: that that not every marriage is going to last forever,

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01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And most things don't.

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01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:28,280
Speaker 1: You know. We live, We live in a very in event.

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01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:33,560
Speaker 2: We have this weird idea that certain things are impossible

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01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 2: because they're not possible right now, and then all of

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01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 2: a sudden, somebody appears on the scene or some new

2155
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 2: technology appears on the scene, and then all at once,

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01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 2: everything is possible, things that we thought would never occur.

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01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 1: I remember, I don't remember it because it was broken

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01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:51,440
Speaker 1: before my time.

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01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:54,840
Speaker 2: But there was a point in history where there were

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01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 2: scientists and doctors who said the four minute mile will

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01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 2: never be broken. It is a human impossibility. It is

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01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:07,800
Speaker 2: not humanly possible for a person to run faster, uh

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01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 2: faster than a four minute mile. I mean it happens routinely. Now,

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01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:17,599
Speaker 2: it's it's just there's there's there's things that people say

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01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 2: with such security because right now it seems impossible.

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01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 1: But I'll give you the better example.

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01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 2: You say, we land on the Moon and then saying

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01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:28,680
Speaker 2: Jupiter next, how about Mars. There were a lot of

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01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:32,719
Speaker 2: people after, after realizing how difficult it was to land

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01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 2: on the Moon, went there's no way we'll ever be

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01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 2: able to make it to Mars.

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01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 1: Well, now you got.

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01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 2: Some billionaire Bruce Wayne type who's like, I'm gonna I'm

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01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 2: gonna send rockets on to Mas and we well.

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01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 1: Actually, you know, it's kind of funny.

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01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:49,519
Speaker 2: We're gonna land on malls and we're gonna colonize Mas.

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01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 2: And everybody goes, elin, you're crazy.

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01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 1: Question right there, We'll watch me. And now he's doing it.

2179
01:52:56,640 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 1: That's the NFL. That's that NFL player's betting on NFL games.

2180
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:04,639
Speaker 1: That's Pluto. That's not Mark No, no, you no, it's Pluto.

2181
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 1: It's not even freaking close. They're they're cracking down on

2182
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 1: players entering sportsbooks, not even betting. You can't do that

2183
01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:18,400
Speaker 1: right now. The quantum leap from that to NFL players

2184
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 1: betting on NFL games is so seismic, like you can't downplay.

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01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 2: It is okay, video games in our lifetime, mine and

2186
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:33,639
Speaker 2: yours have gone from two paddles smacking a little digital

2187
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 2: die across the screen to now where you could put

2188
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 2: on a headset and be chased around by zombies.

2189
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like and.

2190
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:46,120
Speaker 2: It feels close to real life, like I mean, things

2191
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:50,440
Speaker 2: change quick and and as as soon as something becomes

2192
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 2: a whisper of a thought, a whisper of a possibility,

2193
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 2: it usually does become a reality in a generation. So

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01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:02,840
Speaker 2: right now, with the with the the the levees have

2195
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:06,840
Speaker 2: been broken, with the NFL, with a Las Vegas football team,

2196
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 2: with the NFL now cutting deals with Caesar's Sportsbook and

2197
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:15,879
Speaker 2: fan Duel and bet MGM and all the rest of them.

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01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 2: I see on the horizon, And it's not even the

2199
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:22,760
Speaker 2: very distant horizon where you're going to be like you're

2200
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:25,639
Speaker 2: gonna be tuning in for an NFL Sunday and it's

2201
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:28,639
Speaker 2: gonna cut to commercial. It's gonna say something like, Hey,

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01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm Baker Mayfield and I bet on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 1: Show No, Baker's.

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01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 5: Gonna be so far, I don't be honest, I don't.

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01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:41,560
Speaker 1: Know Baker's gonna be alive when this goes.

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01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 2: Knock it off real wellball.

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01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:50,480
Speaker 3: He he does, and and listen. I don't agree with

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01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 3: the concept of it. I don't think NFL players should

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01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 3: be allowed.

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01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:57,839
Speaker 1: To bet on the NFL.

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01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:01,000
Speaker 3: But I also don't think a lot of things, and

2212
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that it's not the reality.

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01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 1: I don't.

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01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 3: I think the current climate that we're in it's too

2215
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 3: hot right now for it to even be considered. But

2216
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:13,560
Speaker 3: in ten years, let's see what the gambling climate is

2217
01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:16,840
Speaker 3: in this country. I reserve the right to change right now.

2218
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 3: Today I disagree wholeheartedly with Rich's opinion, but I reserve

2219
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:24,960
Speaker 3: the right to change that assessment in.

2220
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:28,000
Speaker 1: Five years down the line. I reserve the right to

2221
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 1: double maybe trip it down on how much I disagree.

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01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:34,400
Speaker 3: Today, I disagree with Rich, but maybe in five years

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01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 3: I won't.

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01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:35,240
Speaker 1: I don't know.

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01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm having for lunch later. It is

2226
01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 2: never never say always, I never. I really don't. But

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01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:44,200
Speaker 2: in this case, I'll make an access.

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01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:50,200
Speaker 1: It will never happen that NFL players can bet on

2229
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 1: NFL games. The NFL has partnerships with these sports books.

2230
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:56,600
Speaker 1: Do you think that's going away anytime soon?

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01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 3: No, I think there's a way to build in a

2232
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 3: partnership and account for it. I'm not saying it's a

2233
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:06,440
Speaker 3: smart idea or it's going to happen anytime soon, but no,

2234
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 3: Rich is right in the sense where and I feel.

2235
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 1: This way in the gambling space too, when.

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01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 3: I'm watching a game and I'm like, this is over,

2237
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 3: it's done, and then it's not.

2238
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not over.

2239
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:18,000
Speaker 3: It's not that the team comes back and wins. So

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01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:20,440
Speaker 3: I don't want to bury it. But it's a terrible

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01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:25,080
Speaker 3: idea today today is terrified. But in five years maybe not.

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01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe we've got Rich crazy pants over here,

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01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 1: pen st we've got Jared half sensible, half crazy pants himself.

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01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:39,920
Speaker 1: That's fair, Yeah, right, Jared Smith with us here FSR

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Speaker 1: betting analyst. I'm Brian No all right, coming up next,

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01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:45,240
Speaker 1: let's try to make you some money. It's legal for

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01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 1: us to do. Like NFL players, We'll have some picks

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01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 1: for you right around the corner. It's Fox Sports Saturday

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01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:52,080
Speaker 1: right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 10: One one pitch swing. There's a high drive to center,

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Speaker 10: racing back his demo good over the wall to the left,

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01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:04,720
Speaker 10: up straight away. The rookie Patrick Bailey has hit a

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01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 10: three run homer to turn this game on its hand.

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Speaker 1: of kN B R six 't eighty Giants Radio Network

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Speaker 1: Love jonp As the Giants? Who did they beat? Jared again?

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Speaker 1: Who was was that yesterday? I'm not a Mets fan,

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01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 1: but the Mets for Mets. The Mets. Mets have been

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01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:47,480
Speaker 1: freaking metroutals. They are at ten games under five hundred

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01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 1: now for the first time since twenty nineteen, and they

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01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:54,560
Speaker 1: have the highest payroll ever in Major League Baseball. Well

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01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 1: this is the highest right now. That's it's It's a

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01:57:57,480 --> 01:58:00,840
Speaker 1: Crease Fireman total disaster. Yeah, was not a disaster today.

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01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 1: A lot of fun. Shout out to the crew. Brandon

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Speaker 1: truffa trusted producer, Iowa Sam technical producer, Great Isaac Lowenkron

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01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,720
Speaker 1: crushing the updates. Top of the hour, up on game.

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01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:15,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna be TJ. Huschmanzada and Plexico Burris with you.

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01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:18,320
Speaker 1: Shout out to LaVar Arrington. It's his birthday today. But

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01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:21,960
Speaker 1: TJ in Plexico, you are in great, great hands. Well,

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01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:24,200
Speaker 1: it's time to win some money here. Jared will start

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01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 1: with you. What are you thinking today?

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01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:29,360
Speaker 3: Best pitcher in baseball right now is pitching today and

2278
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:32,880
Speaker 3: that is one Uri Perez. You've probably never heard of him.

2279
01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:35,840
Speaker 3: He's pitching for the Marlins. And this kid, I feel

2280
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 3: like every year the Marlins or the Astros they bring

2281
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:39,720
Speaker 3: up this young pitcher and they just take the world

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01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:40,200
Speaker 3: by storm.

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01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:44,000
Speaker 5: We're gonna try the nerfe in Marlin's Braves.

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01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 3: The Braves scare me because their offense is unbelievable and

2285
01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 3: they score five runs in the first inning yesterday. But again,

2286
01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:52,600
Speaker 3: Ury Perez, I think has a chance to keep things

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01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:57,120
Speaker 3: under control. I'll also give you Nerfy Houston, Texas Big

2288
01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 3: Al West rivalry going on Hunter Brown, Nathan of All

2289
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:02,680
Speaker 3: to your pitching matchup there, and then if you want

2290
01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 3: a game that's starting in about an hour or so, Padres,

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01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:11,560
Speaker 3: Reds your feet, yes run, first inning, couple of no runs, Marlins, Braves,

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01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:14,840
Speaker 3: Astros Rangers at a yes run, Reds Padres.

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01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:17,840
Speaker 2: All right, all right, Actually, I'm glad you finished with

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01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:21,240
Speaker 2: the Padres game because I've made a lot of people

2295
01:59:21,320 --> 01:59:22,920
Speaker 2: have been listening to this show a lot of money

2296
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 2: over the past three weeks. I'm three for three in

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01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:30,840
Speaker 2: taking the under total runs. I'm gonna go four for

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01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:33,560
Speaker 2: four here today, gentlemen. You got the Reds, you got

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01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:36,240
Speaker 2: the Padres. You got Brandon Williamson on the mound for

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01:59:36,320 --> 01:59:39,960
Speaker 2: the Reds, actually a pretty good month of June for him.

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01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:42,760
Speaker 2: And you got Michael Wak on the mount for the Padres,

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01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:45,240
Speaker 2: one of their better starting pitchers so far this season.

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01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:47,440
Speaker 2: I'm taking the under eleven and a half total runs

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01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:48,000
Speaker 2: in that game.

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01:59:48,240 --> 01:59:51,600
Speaker 1: It's hilarious because I wrote down the same exact thing. Yeah,

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01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:53,640
Speaker 1: I've got the under eleven and a half in the

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01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:57,880
Speaker 1: Padres Reds game. Yesterday was just an absolute dreadful bat

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01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:01,360
Speaker 1: rough beat on the extra They got to twelve by

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02:00:01,520 --> 02:00:04,520
Speaker 1: Ruts it was all freaking hideous. The lack of locks.

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Speaker 1: No NFL players will ever be allowed to bet on

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Speaker 1: NFL games. Bet it now, shut up. Ran