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Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. If this was reverse and the Dolphins that

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Speaker 1: came up here on Tuesday, it would barely make the headlines. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Patriots fans would kill him.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely major chess checkers there in the right already. I

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Speaker 1: know our fans and we would be Did you see

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Speaker 1: he's wearing sleeves? Fred? So I did a little research, Fred,

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Speaker 1: I know this was about most importance. I did not

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Speaker 1: play them. Oh you didn't. No. I talked to my

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Speaker 1: boys and we came up with all about Paul. You know,

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Speaker 1: they have a lot of and they'll fade down the stred.

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Speaker 1: They have a lot of that. So we got Trey

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Speaker 1: Lance with with Jimmy g breathing down his throat? Is

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Speaker 1: that is that correathing down? I'm born nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 1: I should I don't need this. I don't need to

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Speaker 1: find out my co workers were born after I graduated college.

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Speaker 1: I really don't need that. Nineteen ninety two, I was

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Speaker 1: on my fourth arrest at the Patriots unifor was better

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Speaker 1: than I didn't say the uniforms. Well, their colors are

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Speaker 1: better than the Niners. Yeah, timeless, I think colors are better,

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Speaker 1: you know. I'm I happen to like America red, white

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Speaker 1: and blue. So no, the roundtable, the round table. Oh

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Speaker 1: thanks for thanks for reading. Sorry France. All right, I've

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Speaker 1: been doing it through the preseason. I guess no one cares.

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Speaker 1: This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All Right, welcome

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Speaker 1: the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here at Chilette Stadium,

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Speaker 1: and oh, after week one, the sky is falling. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I'm I'm not too upset about this game.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why. It's Deuce, it's Alex, it's Paul,

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Speaker 1: it's Matt's me. I'll tell you why. I went into

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Speaker 1: the season made it known clearly on this show that

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Speaker 1: I was worried about the defense and felt the offense

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Speaker 1: had the pieces to be a good offense. After this game,

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Speaker 1: I think the defense played pretty well. You know, a

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Speaker 1: but really they gave up thirteen points, you know, and

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Speaker 1: one of them was just an absolute blown assignment and

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Speaker 1: one of the touchdowns. And on offense, they didn't look good,

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Speaker 1: but I still think they've got the pieces to be better,

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Speaker 1: to be better. So I'm optimistic that. Wow, the defense

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Speaker 1: And I still believe the pieces of there on offense

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Speaker 1: if they can, you know, just get things together. So

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Speaker 1: let's go beat Pittsburgh. Let's just go be Pittsburgh. Let's

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Speaker 1: go get beat Pittsburgh. And I think about it, right,

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Speaker 1: let's let's bury this one. It's been tough. It's been

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Speaker 1: a tough couple of days trying to process all this,

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Speaker 1: trying to find some silver linings. I guess as well.

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Speaker 1: But it's hard. It's hard. I mean it's uh, based

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Speaker 1: I just as you watched the game, I think the

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Speaker 1: you know overall, and like it's like an alternate reality

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Speaker 1: that they can beat good teams. Yeah, that that that

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Speaker 1: this year. That I mean, that's really I think boils

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Speaker 1: don't know how good Miami is. Yeah, that's that's I

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Speaker 1: the wattle thing at the end of the half was disgusting.

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Speaker 1: just saying I think the defense was gassed by that point.

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Speaker 1: maybe that spurred it on. But maybe it's just my

425
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,440
Speaker 1: New England background. I'm still worried about the back because

426
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it just spasms. I mean, I'm definitely

427
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 1: still worried about the back. I mean, I think Max's

428
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 1: a really tough kid, you know. I Mean, that's one

429
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,560
Speaker 1: thing that I would definitely say about him. I think

430
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 1: he's tough. He played two more series after taking that hit. Um,

431
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 1: but the back isn't something you can mess with. Though

432
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 1: you compensate in other places and you can throw your

433
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 1: entire posture in alignment out of whack. I mean, and

434
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,880
Speaker 1: did you see that. I mean the video Badar took

435
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 1: of him walking out of the X ray, he looked

436
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, a little stiff, and I mean

437
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,360
Speaker 1: he said he was feeling better yesterday. But I don't

438
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 1: think we're out of the woods with that one. Um,

439
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, by any stretch of the imagination. Mac, you know,

440
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 1: he needs a good game. He isn't you know, strong

441
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 1: a good game together in a while. And now he's

442
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,199
Speaker 1: got to deal with an injury too, Um, you know.

443
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 1: And and how are they gonna I know, we'll get

444
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 1: into Pittsburgh. But yeah, that's a that's a that's a

445
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 1: team they usually like to throw against, right, I mean

446
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 1: that when when you went down there with Brady against them,

447
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,159
Speaker 1: it was spread and throw and we don't we might

448
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 1: not even try to run. So I don't make any

449
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 1: comparisons when Tom Brady was here, well, just in terms

450
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 1: of attacking the old Pittsburgh defense, what it seemed like

451
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 1: they like to do was to spread him out and

452
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 1: get the ball out quick and no hesitation to Pittsburgh

453
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 1: likes to get at you. And that's there use their

454
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 1: aggression against them. But you know, with Flores in Pittsburgh, now,

455
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,199
Speaker 1: does that change the dynamic? I mean, that's at kidding me.

456
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,919
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he knows us. And I mean and

457
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 1: and then to bring it back, I mean I think

458
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 1: one of the things that's just really disheartening to me

459
00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 1: right now is the commentary that the Patriots are running

460
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: like they pulled an offense from Madden. And there's this

461
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: very simple and the Dan Orlovsky stuff stuff that, but

462
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: that popped up. I mean, you know, I was joking

463
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: with Paul, you know, because Olofsky saying they're running the

464
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 1: same play over and over again, and you know where

465
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 1: joking saying she's in the old days when it was working.

466
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, they run the same run six

467
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 1: times in a row, just the probate times, the toss crack,

468
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 1: just go eight, seven, twelve. You know, they're so good.

469
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 1: They just execute and they they're not afraid to run

470
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 1: the same play. Here's where I'm gonna be on your side, Fred,

471
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 1: this is where I'm gonna you know, so you're not

472
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 1: gonna yell at me. I saw the whole game, like

473
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: the first drive. I thought the first drive was pretty good. Right,

474
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: So I'm listening to Orlowski, who I like, you know,

475
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm not killing Dan Orlovsky, but he's talking about the

476
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: repetition of the plays early in the game, like, what

477
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 1: do you probably have the I think it was like

478
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: three they ran like three plays three times each or

479
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: something like that or twice each on the first drive.

480
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: What was wrong with that? Yeah? It right down the field, right.

481
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 1: It was like seven, five, twelve, six, first and ten

482
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,719
Speaker 1: of the twenty two, right, Like, why do I have

483
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,199
Speaker 1: to change things because I need to show off my

484
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: shiny choice like Mike McDaniel who tried to lose the

485
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: game in the last five minutes, right, like, it was working.

486
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: I had no problem with the operation. The only thing

487
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: that I would say minor like in terms of like

488
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: Patricia Judge Belichick, that whole thing. Look to me and

489
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: Mike and I were talking about this during the game.

490
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 1: They were rushing to get plays off early on. It

491
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: looked like there was quick movement in terms of like

492
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: the formations getting into it, and there was like you

493
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,479
Speaker 1: know that that panis kind of snap it, snap it. Yeah.

494
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: They maybe they needed to get the plays in a

495
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: little bit faster, But I'd have no problem with the

496
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: play calls on that first drive. They went right down

497
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: the field, and Orlowski is talking about how well they

498
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: just used the same play. Well it worked, yeah, And

499
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: that's and that's what I think the question is of

500
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: this new offensive, of making it simpler and being able

501
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: to go faster. And you know, I'm going back to

502
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 1: thinking about Vince Lombardi and having you know, we run

503
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: three plays, but we just run them really well. I

504
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: don't think that that works anymore. Now. I'm imagining, you know,

505
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: Brian Flores if if this really is like a rudimentary

506
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 1: kind of offense that they're starting out with. I like,

507
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: Brian Floor is going to look at that and be like,

508
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: and I'll give you a devil's advocate. And I'm gonna

509
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: give Greg Badard credit for this because he's the one

510
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: I heard say on the way home. You might have

511
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: heard the same thing the other day, Mike when he

512
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: was talking about like, you know, they had a plan

513
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: coming into the game, and their plan was effective again

514
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: because they came right out and I think the opening script,

515
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: yeah right, And I think they also went into the

516
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: locker room at halftime came out with an idea of

517
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: what they want to do in the second half, and

518
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 1: that worked also, right. So the fear of that, or

519
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: the concern moving forward is that works for three or

520
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: four weeks. Teams will figure out what that is and

521
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: then they'll make an adjustment to it. Now, you better

522
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 1: be better in that time, like Bill says, you know,

523
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: you gotta work things out and get to where you

524
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 1: want to be. I mean I would shorten the timeline though.

525
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like after those first drive, you

526
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: know you're getting adjustments now, and is this offensive staff

527
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: able to adjust accordingly within the game too. That's a concern.

528
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: So you know that that was the nightmare scenario of that.

529
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: You know, we need a real offense here, We need

530
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: to be able to take advantage of this stuff. So

531
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, it ain't gonna fly next week

532
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,479
Speaker 1: against that defense. So they better have a huge, kind

533
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: of huge break without t J. Watt. I mean, you can't.

534
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 1: You can't overstated it's it's yeah. I mean I see

535
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: a lot of attention that he gets. It's huge. I

536
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: still feel like they got plenty in the tank though,

537
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 1: between Hayward and uh, you know what's the guy on

538
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: the other side who had like high Smith, but it

539
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: seems like he's coming into his own from talking to something,

540
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: well not talking about from reading some of the people

541
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, they thought that Watt was a big part

542
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: of that. You know, it was so much the commands

543
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 1: much attention was allowing high Smith I think he had

544
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: nine quarterback pressure slash hits um to go with the

545
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: three sacks. But it's just like with this offensive line,

546
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: like pretty much any defensive line scares me right now

547
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: with with how these guys have been looking. Well, I'm

548
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: just watching the highlights of the Monday night game last night,

549
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: and I'm getting angry all over again. I you know, Fred,

550
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: there's nothing that bugs me more watching the game and

551
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: then just ineptitude in terms of your play called your

552
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: game operation and that was that was just coaching negligence

553
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: once again. Did you watch the whole game? I watched

554
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: the end. Yeah, I think I turned it off, Like

555
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 1: toward the end of the third I felt like I

556
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: was living in a simulation during the first half one

557
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: watching Joe Buck and Troy kmancall game on ESPN, and

558
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: then Gino Smith being like what like eighteen of nineteen,

559
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 1: no one talked about the second half with Gino Smith

560
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: didn't get bad? Well, hey did nothing in the second half. Yeah,

561
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: anyway back to the Patriots. Yeah, so the Born thing

562
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: is an issue, like what's going to happen and going

563
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: forward with him? I heard at one point after he

564
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: got taken out he was throwing something on the bench.

565
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: I heard that too. I didn't see it. I heard

566
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: him talking about the radio yesterday saying that he was

567
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: very you know, like he went to go back out

568
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: and then they pulled him back off again, and he

569
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: was expressing some frustration on the sideline. So it's uh.

570
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: He was also like making it known he had the

571
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: one finger in the air, one target, one big catch. Yeah.

572
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: I think that's the way I saw a lot of

573
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: people read knock away Alexa. Did you did you see

574
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: him do that? Did you like, could you see him

575
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: when he came off. I couldn't, but I could see

576
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: the tweets in real time, Okay, and just it's not good.

577
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: I mean last year, you know, he was probably one

578
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: of the bright spots in the offense. Yeah, and I

579
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: think by the end of the year he was probably

580
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: the most effective receiver. Yeah. Now, I think they have

581
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: four guys that are kinder kinder kind of just sort

582
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: of average, you know, average, two above average. But at

583
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: the end of the year last year, I think that

584
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: he had sort of risen above the others, don't you

585
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, I mean, especially but for you know,

586
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: big plays, big moments, that kind of thing. Um. But

587
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: I mean I talk talking a little bit to Evan Um.

588
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: You know after the game of just the lack of

589
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: intermediate passing game, you know, it was just it all

590
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: felt like shots or little dump offs, and that was

591
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: kind of it. There was nobody getting hit in stride

592
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: ten fifteen yards down the field, the old raiders off.

593
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: That was the Mike. The Mike and Paul postgame analysis

594
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: was Mike like, we got to find a way to

595
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: get something in between. Can we find a way to

596
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: get like a fifteen yard crosser or you know, a

597
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: twelve yard out that doesn't look like it's going to

598
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: get picked off every time, But those are the ones

599
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 1: that Mac does get picked off, especial especially, so you know,

600
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the two plays that skewed

601
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: the game. How about Brandon Jones dropping a pick six

602
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: on one of those outs. Yeah, but you know, if

603
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 1: are they avoiding it? Is he not seeing it? Are

604
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: they not comfortable throwing it? There? Another thing that that

605
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: that cracked me up. I saw one particular play where

606
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: Mac must had seventeen different signals at the line, like

607
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: I mean, he's like Peyton Manning, you know, and then

608
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: it was like hike and then just like a little

609
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: checkdown like all that for checkdown like what like I

610
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: usually when you're doing that much, it feels like, oh,

611
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: I see something, We're going to take advantage and make

612
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: a play here, and not like, all right, let's just

613
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: child a part of the Ulovski thing that I agree

614
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: with Dan on that I think is a worthy second

615
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: guess of what their plan is game plan wise. Offensively.

616
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: I did think there were a few of those Mike

617
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: where he's checking down to a back or trying to

618
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: a couple of them on the touchdown drive. I think

619
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: he tried to hit Stevenson on one and then he

620
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: went to Montgomery and then eventually I think he had

621
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: Montgomery for the touchdown. One of them got batted down,

622
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: then I think he went to Stevenson, then Montgomery got

623
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: the touchdown. Too many bodies in the same area. There's

624
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: like a little checkdown back in the in the flat,

625
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: and there's like a guy, you know, like a Myers,

626
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, four or five yards away in like a

627
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: little hook zone, you know. And forgive me if I'm

628
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: not getting you know, the terms right, but like too close,

629
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: too many receivers in too closer proximity and I think

630
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: we're a lost. Evan wrote about that too. I was

631
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: like he was talking about things that that stood out

632
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: to him in the film review where the spacing, I guess,

633
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: the dispersal of the routes, but you could just talk

634
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,479
Speaker 1: about stuff you see. Yeah, you know, can I can

635
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: I say one more thing too, I've been meaning to

636
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: say this. I just want to to shout out, shout

637
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: out Jacoby Myers. Yeah. I just you know, the offense

638
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: changes things. I mean, he's been here for Brady, for

639
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, for Mac Jones, right from the get and

640
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: he just continues to produce in big spots and make

641
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: tough catches. I know he's not the you know, maybe

642
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: the most underrated whatever you want to call him, but

643
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: he's the best. I just think he's He's a really

644
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: good player, and at a time when I don't feel

645
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: great about just about anything on this offense right now,

646
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: he's one piece that I think it comes to play,

647
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: got through this whole transition with multiple quarterbacks, continues to

648
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: be productive in big spots. It was like my only

649
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: pro of the offense. I would maybe slightly put Damien

650
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: Harrison there too, but that that that was about it. Yeah,

651
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean Stevenson, Like last year, I felt Stevens had

652
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: hit the whole faster than Harris was more you know,

653
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: explosive from a dead start, as they say. Yeah, but

654
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: but yeah, on Sunday it seemed like he was a

655
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: little bit more hesitant. He wasn't hitting the hole as fast. Yeah,

656
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: a little disappointed. Yeah, I mean there there was some

657
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: signs of life, I think, a little bit more as

658
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: Paul alluded to from Harris. Um, you know, because they

659
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: had a couple of twelve yards runs three carry out,

660
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: I thought I should have gotten more carrious good Paul.

661
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean they got out of it seventeen. But yeah,

662
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: you know it's yeah, in the second half, it's it's

663
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: it's a different story. But I thought they kind of

664
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: got away, now, you know, in fairness to them, it

665
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: got away from them because they got they were completely

666
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: ineffective in the second quarter after that first drive, like

667
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: the running game went away, and then they got a

668
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: couple of good runs in that first drive of the

669
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: third quarter two. So some of that is they stopped

670
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: running it as well as they had been. Yeah, but

671
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: Myers like not only I think he's he's just sort

672
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: of always overlooked, but physically I think he was dealing

673
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: with something pretty significant. You know, he was out there

674
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: pretty early with the warm up crew. Um, he's limited

675
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: all week, and then yet you know when you needed

676
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: plays like one of the rare bright spots was that

677
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: like twenty something yard catch where he goes up in

678
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean on the sideline. Great yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

679
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: They need him, they need him. It's the unfortunate part

680
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: of the offense is that kind of stuff is really

681
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: hard to stack together when it's third and long, and

682
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: with throwing one up you know in traffic, you know

683
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 1: that just as easily can go off of a guy's

684
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: helmet and go to the safety like it did on

685
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: the Parker play, which should have been a penalty, Fred

686
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: before you yell it should have been, but it was

687
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: also short armed. I thought, oh, it's not a good throw,

688
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: and I think it's a terrible decision. You're doing whatever

689
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: you want. You go right down the field first and

690
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: ten from the twenty two. We're gonna throw at their

691
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: best corner against It was a little old school Patriot.

692
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: They're like, we don't just want to score, we want

693
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: to make sure it's Parker. I want to push back

694
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: on this on this a little bit because they threw

695
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: it Xavien Howard twice and they were both their best play.

696
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: It was the fade to Parker. I mean, you knew

697
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: it was comment. They threw it Howard on important place.

698
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: This is my point with their best play, though, you

699
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, why is that the best play?

700
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: Jump all to Parkers differs play? How many times the

701
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: summer I say, when they get close to the twenty

702
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: this year, I'm gonna turn you and go here comes

703
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: a face? And how many times the summer you would

704
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: say that with disgust. Well that's what they did. I mean,

705
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna happen. Knowing it's gonna happen

706
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: and wanting it to happen in two different things. Don't

707
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: tell me you wanted it to happen. I'm fine with that.

708
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: You got so mad, I don't. This is a guy

709
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: who who called them deep deep corner face. It was

710
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: all that the first three mocking criticism all summer. And

711
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: I'm by the way, I'm not making fun of him.

712
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: He's right. This wasn't even a deep corner right that

713
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: they love. It's not the best play. Yeah, I mean,

714
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: in the red zone is probably the most effective play

715
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: this summer. I was, but if you got any of

716
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: the times they did, if you gotta put it up,

717
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: you gotta put it up high and allow him to

718
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: go up. I thought he's short armed it where Howard

719
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: now had a shot to get his hand out. Yeah,

720
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: I mean they didn't execute it well. But I mean,

721
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: I just, I just I didn't. I mean, everyone just

722
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: seemed like, don't throw nears Avian Howard, like they threw

723
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: it him twice to their to their guy on the

724
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: play that on a play that they like, I don't

725
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: think it's that crazy, that's all. I thought it was terrible.

726
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: I would push back violently on that. I mean, so

727
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: don't throw the park or the whole game, not on

728
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: a play like that, where like, I'm not gonna let

729
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: it on fold Like. They never used to ignore Darell

730
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: Reevs either, But they didn't just throw jump balls toward

731
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: Darell Reevs saying my guy's gonna go up again. No,

732
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: they waited to see if the guy was open when

733
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: he was going against Ruck. He was never open on

734
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: that play. They may have gotten bailed out with a

735
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: penalty because I do think he grabbed him. He's never

736
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: but he was never exactly. Don't tell me that's been

737
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: the best play, but that's what it is. Doesn't get

738
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: open like like the I mean the same thing with

739
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: the Myers, with the Myers, with the Myers catch, I

740
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: mean contested catches. Those I mean those. I know I'm

741
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: not telling you that. I mean those are great. But

742
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: you can't live that way. No, you can't live that way.

743
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean Agilo got opened down the sideline. Borne got

744
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: open on the other sideline. I mean they're hunter Henry

745
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: was open on one of those uh like crosses to

746
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: the you know, uh, the the cross to the sideline.

747
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: There was a play that was I think that was

748
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: early in the game, one of the first two drives.

749
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: Like I think they can you know, this is the

750
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: other thing, and this is like like uh and this

751
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: isn't about Bill. I think Bill's whole positivity is all

752
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: about trying to pick up his team. I think he's

753
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: trying to instill confidence in his team. I wrote about

754
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: it this morning and I said, I can totally understand.

755
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't agree with his summation of the game, but

756
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: I totally understand what he's doing, and I have no

757
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: problem with that. I think he needs to do that.

758
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: But like, they ran a couple of plays and didn't

759
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: like look like their shoes were tied together. They didn't

760
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: fall down, and people are like, oh huh, it was

761
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: better than I thought. Oh, what did you think they

762
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: were gonna do? They scored seven points, They've got two

763
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy yards, Like, what did you think they

764
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: were just gonna go out there and like spontaneously combust

765
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: before the game was alost down the summer, I think

766
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: some people did that was the summer. I got news

767
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: for you. I know everybody didn't believe us. That's what

768
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: we saw all summer was what they did on Sunday.

769
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: They couldn't run the ball consistently, they couldn't protect consistently,

770
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: and they couldn't make plays down the field consistently. They

771
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: can check it off and complete seventy percent of the

772
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: balls and then the guy would run up and tap

773
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: them on the ass and that would be the end

774
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: of the play, right Mike, And for the most part,

775
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: that's what happened. The one touchdown, even the guy literally

776
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: had to roll into the end zone that because because

777
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: the young, the young defensive backup picked off by the

778
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: not by the Patriot, but I think by Howard. I

779
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: think he collided with his own defensive back and he

780
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: was out of position. In time, Montgomery just rolled to

781
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: the end zone. I felt that for our social crew

782
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: on that one, because I'm like, oh, first score of

783
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: the season. It's like kind of hard to do a

784
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: hype little video of like time. But you know what, whoever,

785
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: you know, what I heard was good great awareness by

786
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: Montgomery to know that he had to roll in. Oh

787
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: my goodness, what I I forget? Should I not make

788
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: fun of anybody's come from great? Great aware? Did that

789
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: come from inside the building? Should I not be even

790
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: making fun of that? Alex was the steam roller's rolling through? Well.

791
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: I talk to talk to Tie's mom today. I did.

792
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: She was born and I talked to her for like

793
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: almost an hour just about life in general. You know,

794
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: she made me feel like I'm not doing nearly enough

795
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: good in this world. She's just a great Woman's probably not,

796
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, certainly not. I mean, look

797
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: what I do for a living? True? Am I really helping?

798
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: That's what people always say? Like that job is so cool?

799
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: I go I watch with other people doing I I

800
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: do this how Patriots fans? I think I bring people, yea,

801
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: I order it joy. You know, what I always tell

802
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: myself is that people find a lot of joy in sports,

803
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: and you know, I think that that you know, you

804
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: help people and it's and it's a fun thing part

805
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: of life that I think. I'm gonna get a little

806
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: philosophical here from I mean, I feel like sports, and

807
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: specifically football. You know, it sums up the human experience

808
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: to very you know, there's not it's not as concrete

809
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: in real life wins losses, but you know, it's it's physical,

810
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: it's mental, it's that's what I like about it. So

811
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: that's why that's my That's why I and I think

812
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: that's I agree with Mike. Not necessarily a questionable little

813
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: toxination there, But um, I think that's why people are

814
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: so like negative right now. I think they're they're worried, like,

815
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: is this what this is my outlet? Everyone? You know,

816
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: I work hard all week and I look forward to

817
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: the game, and I can't really look forward to a

818
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: game where I'm going to score seven points and then

819
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: have the coach tell me it was a really good

820
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: You're really so long people were so used to just

821
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: like that really was an escape. You could get excited.

822
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: I have all your friends over and glow to the

823
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: other fan bases, and now you're the butt of the joke.

824
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: Not for long though, just till Sunday. No, sorry, I'm

825
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: excited to get back in the community later, for sure

826
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: with an event. I'm excited to get back on the

827
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: field too. Yeah, I mean back to school. Tom and

828
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: Birmingham says Fred. Your opening monologue was a good attempt

829
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: to talk fans off the ledge. Almost convince me. But

830
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: the truth is this team is not well coached. Fans

831
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: can accept rebuilding after many years of the goat that

832
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: was Tom Brady, But how much longer do we have

833
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: to watch pre snap penalties, blown assignments and misreads. Belichick

834
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: takes the time out to emphasize a point and then

835
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: the team goes out and promptly does the opposite. Where

836
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: is the discipline that used to be the hallmark of

837
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots. This is going to be a long and

838
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: painful season. Yeah, but discipline something we haven't even really

839
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: touched on. But I know, and that was one of

840
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: my key you know, one of my key pieces I

841
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: just you know, felt like this team coming out of

842
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: the gate needed to be need to be clean, like,

843
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: need to look cohesive. I mean, I it wasn't as

844
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: terrible as I thought it might have possibly been, but

845
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was still very distressing, the

846
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: mental mistakes in kind of key moments, and and that

847
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: just goes back to I'm there's no question in my

848
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: mind they're gonna play some games this year. The other

849
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: team's gonna not play that great. Probably maybe you know,

850
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: have a turnover themselves on the first drive and you know,

851
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: Patriots get a little lead and it unfolds like it

852
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: did last year and the Bears are coming. Don't worry

853
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: about it. But I just feel like it's such a

854
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: long way to go to believe that this team can

855
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: go toe to toe with the top fifteen teams in

856
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: the league and go back and forth and oh yeah,

857
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: we're down by ten, but we're gonna score seven and

858
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: then we're gonna stop, and then we'll go up by four.

859
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: You know, those kind of back and forth games. It's

860
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: just it's too much of the same thing where it

861
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: starts to unfold badly and you're like, than ain't going

862
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: to get out of this hole. And Fred, you talked

863
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: about the defense at the beginning of the show, and I,

864
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, I would disagree a little bit, not violently

865
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 1: disagree or anything like that, but like you know, Mike

866
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: talked about the offense. You know, you know, it's a struggle.

867
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: I do think that the defense was probably a little

868
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: bit exceeded my expectations a little bit. I do feel

869
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: like the run defense was so good. I thought that

870
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: could be a sneaky problem because I didn't think they

871
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: were going to be allowed to get any help. I

872
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: think I thought it was going to be all on

873
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: the guys up front to stop the run, and I

874
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: think it was, and they did it. Now, I don't

875
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: know how good Miami is up front. I think that

876
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: they're working through some things. I was laughing with Mike

877
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: by the second order. They were on their third right

878
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: tackle um, and I think that's an issue for them.

879
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: You know, turns Armsted ended up leaving the game in

880
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: the second half. I think he ended up coming back.

881
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: But they're working through some stuff and they weren't able

882
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: to really run the ball. I thought that was a

883
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: really good sign for the Patriots if if they can

884
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: continue to stop the run without having to vote to

885
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: devote extra bodies to do it. Yeah, now you can

886
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: make sure that these catches aren't going to be resulting

887
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: in fifty yard you know, run after catches, you're gonna have, God,

888
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: You're gonna have bodies close enough to make tackles. I'm

889
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: really not sure I've seen Dietrich Wise play a better game.

890
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: That was a really good game, Like he just like

891
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: in the first half, just everywhere. I finally got it

892
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: with him like I've always been. I don't quite I

893
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: feel like he was a little bit miscast here, but

894
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: it seemed like he was really like usually. I mean

895
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: it's it's it's where what are we in like year

896
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: six with him? But I mean, you know, credit to

897
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: him getting named captain. I mean, he's been such a

898
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: great guy in the locker room, played very well and

899
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: he played really well. So I mean again, I think

900
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: those are the kind of guys that they need. Somebody

901
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: like him who's you know, full of positive energy and

902
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, really seems to be part of the new

903
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: kind of core that that's emerging here. Um, gonna open

904
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: up the phones in a bit. But one other thing,

905
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: the cold strange when he came out of Was that

906
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: a benching or just you know, maybe it was a

907
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 1: little I think maybe a little of both. He said

908
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: it was planned. Yeah, it just happened directly after it

909
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: looked like I take his word for it, right, Yeah, yeah,

910
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: yeah he did. And I mean, if you believe in PFF,

911
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: they graded him pretty highly. Um, I mean overall on

912
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: the offensive line. That's my problem with PF. I know,

913
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't. That's why I give the disclaimer. I mean

914
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: I say too. I saw Michael Amen you throwing some

915
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: guys around two, which was kind of nice to see that.

916
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: It's really just the tackles that that I I have

917
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: my big questions about. Um. I was saying upstairs, my

918
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: worries that they're quiet quitting and they're still there, but

919
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: they're not really doing their job right now. UM So

920
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: you know what, what we'll see how that continues to

921
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: play out. Marcus Cannon too, potentially on the practice squad.

922
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting, Yeah, to bring him back,

923
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: he's uh, he's old. I don't he didn't play in

924
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. I think he played like sixteens last year

925
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: the Texas fbilitating back. Yeah, no, I know it, and

926
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: it almost made me feel worse to agree, because like,

927
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: that's that's how desperate we are. But I think every

928
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: team in the league right now is kind of desperate

929
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: for for offensive line. I mean the Raiders too, there,

930
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: I mean everybody. Everybody's got seemed to have some kind

931
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: of issues with with the offensive line right now. All right,

932
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: eight five five past five hundred is the a sticket

933
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: hot line? Eight five five pats five hundred. Let's go

934
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: to Patty and agawam, what's up? Patty? Up? Everyone? Hey,

935
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: hello Patty. So at this point, I'm ready to go

936
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: to Plan B, which is let's break out the video cameras.

937
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: You know, come on, what makes you think they don't

938
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: have motto Week one? I did, I did want to

939
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: and controversy Hendren Paulie. I know, I know I've been

940
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: bellyaching about the offensive line over the past few weeks,

941
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: but I'll be the first to admit Max did not

942
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: play good on Sunday. Um. You know, I think if

943
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: if you know that your line isn't giving you four seconds,

944
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: which is sort of standard, I mean, if they're only

945
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: giving if they're giving you half of that, you've got

946
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: to make adjustments accordingly. And he just like a lot

947
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: of guys on the postgame show said he wasn't making

948
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: very good decisions. And Mike you had said on the

949
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: postgame show you didn't think that this team as good

950
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: as a playmaker basically on the receiving corner. I'll disagree.

951
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: I think Kendrick Bourne is a guy that can he

952
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: can create separation. We saw last year. He can, he

953
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: can get yards after the catch. I just don't know

954
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on, you know, like, is

955
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: what he did or what he said in the off season,

956
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: or maybe maybe it's a compilation of things. But I mean,

957
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: can you really afford to have one of your best

958
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: playmakers not on the field most of the time, even

959
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: this early in the season. I don't think he can.

960
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're trying to win games, you gotta

961
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: have your best players out there. Yeah, I mean, I

962
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: mean the only thing I'd say is is that regardless

963
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: of the off the field stuff, like he didn't do

964
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: any on the field this summer, Like, you know, so

965
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: if we had seen a lot in the practice field

966
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, they're just sitting on him, like so,

967
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's more going on right now.

968
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: It just feels like there's so many things in between

969
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: getting him on the field and getting him actively involved

970
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: in the offense because off the field stuff's keeping him

971
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: off the field. And even when he gets on the field,

972
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: I wonder how much they can get the ball to him.

973
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: And the conventional you know between the twenties offense that

974
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: you know is you know, you're a little bit in

975
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: desperation mode there with the past down the sideline to

976
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: him in that last game. But you know, can you

977
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: can you get him coming over the middle? And I mean,

978
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: and I don't you know, And I think aglore has

979
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: continues to show a little bit of more of a

980
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: burst than I remember him having last year. With Parker

981
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: now on the outside, they have the ability maybe to

982
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: move Agglo around a little bit more. I'd love to see,

983
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: Like Bike Paul said, I think that's a big key

984
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: getting those two guys involved. You know, we know what

985
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: we have in Parker. It's gonna be fandestic catches little

986
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: slants and with Myers on third down and his ability

987
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: to find holes and zones and get open and you

988
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: need those two complimentary pieces with some speed to you know.

989
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to say stretch the field in the

990
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: sense of getting but you know, getting some chunk plays,

991
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: getting some stuff that's easy. It can't be fifteen plays

992
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: every time at eight play at eight yards a pop,

993
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: just to get down the field, right. That that part

994
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: is I think enormous. I mean, I know some teams

995
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: are gonna make you work your way back. They don't

996
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: really seem to have any other way to score other

997
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: than extended drives. And when you have, when you need

998
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: extended drives, a penalty is going to kill you. If

999
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: you don't get the penalty on fourth down, that's gonna

1000
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: kill you. Like because that that drive was aided by

1001
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: a fourth down penalty. I just think they have to

1002
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: find a way to get some easier yards. It like,

1003
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: every yard to me is like really really hard earned.

1004
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: It is. It's a struggle. And even when the ball

1005
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: is going there, like I feel like we're watching the

1006
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: ball like here, Mike and I looked at it the

1007
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: very first play, very first play of the game. They

1008
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: threw like an out that had an arc to it,

1009
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: and it wasn't even like a first I was like

1010
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: eight yards and Mike and I looked at each other,

1011
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, like and then sure enough, later in

1012
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: the game he throws one of those that he was

1013
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: lucky he didn't go for six. It just feels like

1014
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: this place too. By the time the ball is getting there,

1015
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: like they're they're getting smoked. I mean, you know, it's like,

1016
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: oh he's got Now it's a contested It's maybe it

1017
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, if you've gotten there a little bit faster.

1018
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,959
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's it's it's got to be better.

1019
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: Chris with a T I a n Hey Christian, Hey,

1020
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: how's everybody doing all right? It sounds like better than you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey,

1021
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: I wish I was doing as good as a call

1022
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: um um. I just the whole thing and just a

1023
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: piggyback on what what Patty said and what everybody's saying

1024
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: about Kendrick Bourne. I don't get it, like I just

1025
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Like whatever happened now over a

1026
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: month ago in Carolina, coupled with his offseason, it's over,

1027
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: like time to put it to bed. Yeah, I don't know.

1028
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: Lead over into the regular season just doesn't make any

1029
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: sense to me at all. And like I was listening

1030
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: to Mic Rease on the radio yesterday, Moore and he

1031
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, but we don't know the context that

1032
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: we don't know what's going on behind the scene. I

1033
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't I don't care. If I'll make fun of

1034
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 1: every boss to media personality, but Mike Reece is off limits. Buster.

1035
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: But let's see, thank Karen. Mike's right, though, Christian, I mean,

1036
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: what you're saying is right. It doesn't make sense. So

1037
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: there must be something we don't know because it doesn't

1038
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: make sense done to water. I don't know, I don't know.

1039
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, okay, okay, So say it was

1040
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: so agregious, then you should trade him if he's that

1041
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: bad of a guy and it was that bad of

1042
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: a thing. And my point with to bat Christians, if

1043
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: it was so egregious, I don't think you hear like

1044
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: players indicating to media guys which we heard in the

1045
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: aftermath of Sunday, I was not there obviously that they

1046
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: look they don't understand it either if it was that egregious.

1047
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: Just as an example, David Andrews wouldn't be telling someone

1048
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: I don't really understand why he's not a bigger part

1049
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: of the game plan, because David Andrews would know what happened,

1050
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: right if he was being a malcontent continuing on through

1051
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: all the last few weeks, right, but it seemed like

1052
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: he's I think you already said he knew he wasn't

1053
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: going to be a big part of the plan for Yes,

1054
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: that's why I go back to the offensive line needing

1055
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: the blocking from the tight ends. I think I'll read

1056
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: into it way more if we see much of the

1057
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: same this week against the Steelers, where like, if the

1058
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: game plans completely you know, different, he still doesn't play. No,

1059
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: And I think there's the validity to that point, but

1060
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: I also would say, like you can't just rotate snaps

1061
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: to that point, specifically to that point little Jordan Humphrey

1062
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: got in before. Yeah, you know, yeah, he only played

1063
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: three plays, but I mean he did make an appearance

1064
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: before Bourn did, so it definitely seems to be more

1065
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 1: to it than just well, you know, game plan. Yeah,

1066
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: there's more to it than that. Greg's in California. What's up? Greg? Hey, guys,

1067
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: I tuned in kind of late, so I'm not sure

1068
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: if you covered this already, But is there a status

1069
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: on Adrian Phillips for this on this No, not that

1070
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: I've seen anything. Jordan Schultz. Depending on how you feel it,

1071
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 1: not from anybody, depending on how you feel about his reiability.

1072
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: I think he did just get hired by the score,

1073
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: which which is a notable outlet. But he sat down,

1074
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: um cautious, cautiously optimistic, which I feel like is ribs right,

1075
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: ribs phillips. Yeah, so you know, somebody's broken a couple

1076
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: of ribs. It's not yet, not easy to deal with.

1077
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is, I heard you guys

1078
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: talking about the defense earlier. Do you think that our

1079
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: defense is actually decent or do you think it's just

1080
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: too as a weak little noodle arm still being weak.

1081
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: My first piece of heart evidence says there's hope there.

1082
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: It's like I was more worried about the defense going

1083
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: into I'm happier with the way you're talking about it now.

1084
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have had my little blow up with you

1085
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: if you would said it in these terms, like one

1086
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: part of me can just hope there. I would agree

1087
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: with one part of me say it's a weird match

1088
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: up with their ability at wide receiver and the RPO

1089
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: stuff and just you know what too it does. It's tough,

1090
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: But I would just say a lot of the games

1091
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: is you're gonna be like that. I mean, Lamar Jackson

1092
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: is a weird challenging matchup. Um, you know, not not

1093
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: necessarily next week with your brisky, but yeah, I would

1094
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: look forward too, like all the way to week four,

1095
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: like you know, Aaron Rodgers and I know that he

1096
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: doesn't have great receivers, but he's gonna find it. I mean,

1097
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be like it was Sunday every week

1098
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: for him. He's going to figure out some things. And

1099
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 1: then when you move a little bit more forward into

1100
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: the season and you're dealing with you know, even like

1101
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins with with those weapons and obviously Josh Allen,

1102
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: you know, Joe Burrow. What when you're dealing with those

1103
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: guys and you're you know, you're holding him to thirteen points,

1104
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: then I'll look at it a little bit different. Yeah, sure,

1105
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: all right, cool, Thanks guys. Thanks Greg. Um, let's go

1106
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: to SPI and Fresno. Hey, spe Hey, guys. I think

1107
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: Paul maybe you're onto something regarding Kendrick Bourn when you

1108
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: look at the Devonte Parker stuff, because I think that

1109
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: he's Bill shiny Thoy. I think he wants to stick

1110
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: part yeah Parker in there, like against Davie and Howard

1111
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: rather than go with the speedy or Agalore, which is

1112
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: a point you man the post postgame show fall. I

1113
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: think that maybe he just wants to ride Parker, even

1114
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: at the offense of faster guys, like maybe Bill's being

1115
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: a stick in the mud or yeah, I mean I'm

1116
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: not not working. Yeah, I'm not gonna put words at

1117
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: Bill's mouth or anything like that. But and this is

1118
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: where I would disagree with Mike. I don't necessarily say, well,

1119
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: Zavian Howard's on the field, so I Am not going

1120
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: to look at him. I'm never gonna know. I'm gonna

1121
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: try to get him on a double move. See if

1122
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: I can be aggressive with him, See if I can

1123
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: get Agalore or Born behind him, you know in some way,

1124
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, put a guy in motion,

1125
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, and see if you can get you know,

1126
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: get Howard to missus. Simon just straight up locked up.

1127
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: And I know Howard took Parker, you know, for the

1128
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: most part in that game. I know that was their matchup.

1129
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: I don't like that matchup. I'm going to look to

1130
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: another one, you know, I'm not and I'm certainly not

1131
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: gonna you know, im not gonna say I'm never gonna

1132
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: go to him, But the time I go to him

1133
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: isn't going to be when I'm in the midst of

1134
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: a great drive on first and ten, you know, from

1135
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: the twenty two without knowing that he's open, and I

1136
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: put some of that on Mat. That's not like because

1137
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: I know a lot of you all twenty two guys

1138
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: not you specific pointed a lot of you all twenty

1139
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: two guys pointed out that Jonah Smith was wide open

1140
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: on that play um and you know, so I put

1141
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: some of that on Mac. You don't have to throw

1142
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: it to that guy. Was Jonah Smith a little bit

1143
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: of a bright spot? I mean I like that one

1144
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: runn he had where he kind of broke some tackles.

1145
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: The bar is like under the floor. Wow, it's so

1146
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: easy to get excited. He caught two screens and we're like,

1147
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: was he looking for anything? From Jamith? It's all baby steps.

1148
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's it's worth like why

1149
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: season less? So why are we looking for baby steps

1150
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: for our fifty million dollar tight end in year two?

1151
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm just like for anything. It's not like we just

1152
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: like like to me, Tae Kwon Thornton making two or

1153
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: three catches, Like, do we see a little something that's

1154
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: perfectly understandable. But a guy that you invested that amount

1155
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: of time and money and catching two screens, there's not

1156
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: something to write home about. Yeah, I kind of looked

1157
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: the same. N Mike had a great point in the

1158
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: post game show. Um he said something had a lot

1159
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: of lines of I don't even know what definite elite

1160
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: isn't the issue perfect? That might have been perfect? That

1161
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: might have When I was enjoying my cigarette listening to Mike,

1162
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: it was philosophical, like because my bias is the seas

1163
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 1: is the lens of mass, limit limitations because I doubt

1164
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: that he's truly a franchise guy. But there's like plenty

1165
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: of possible causes like it the draft, the coaching, not

1166
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: having Tom build, maybe being complacent or game passing and buy.

1167
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: It's just like just because you have a pet peeve,

1168
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that there isn't a ton of stuff

1169
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: that played. I thought it was a great point by Mike. Sure,

1170
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. But in the post game, even

1171
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: when there were one o'clock games and it was early,

1172
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: it was a fast one o'clock game, too. Yeah, it moves.

1173
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: We started that pregame show like, oh did it three

1174
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 1: fifty five? Uh, Kevin's in Delaware, Hey, Kevin, Hey, hey, hey,

1175
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: hey hear me? Yes, all right, I'm just uh, I'm confused, man,

1176
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: Like I don't know who's calling the plays. Funny when

1177
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: when when when the commentators are saying, you know, they

1178
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: both have the the game card like like like the

1179
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: play card and they don't know which guys calling the play. Um,

1180
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, the whole issue with with

1181
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: a k k be not playing even we were losing,

1182
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, in the second half we needed the extra offing.

1183
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: Why not put the guy in? You know, I'm I'm

1184
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: just you know, I've never been we don't have an

1185
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: answer for that about a game, you know, ever watching

1186
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots for as long as I have been, I

1187
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: have never ended the game and I'm sitting there saying,

1188
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm just confused. I don't know what's going on. I

1189
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 1: don't know. The offensive line got issues, the defense was fine, No,

1190
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: they only gave up what thirteen points, you know, bad offensively. Um,

1191
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm just confused. I I don't know. Yeah, that's what

1192
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: we're talking. Like a support group yeah, get it out.

1193
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm confused about Born as well. I mean, I have

1194
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: to think there's something going on that we don't know.

1195
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's Born, it's Mac, it's the old line,

1196
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: it's the coaching, it's you know, there's a lot of

1197
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 1: things that are either contributing to poor play or need

1198
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: to happen to contribute to good play, you know. Yeah,

1199
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean I continue to beat the draft drum because

1200
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: I just, you know, I think it's gotten to the

1201
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: point now where you know, if you had, if you

1202
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: if you had hit on some of those guys the

1203
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: last few years, you know, it would probably look a

1204
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: little better. What's just really frightening to me again? And

1205
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: and I don't want to blow up the Orloski point,

1206
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: but I just I can't wrap my brain around them

1207
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: installing like a rudimentary, basic kind of well if it

1208
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: isn't it. If I hear another defenders say the Patriots

1209
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: are easy to defend, I'm gonna go crazy because that's

1210
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: what I heard last year and I never heard that before,

1211
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, is it? And you know, I'm like, are

1212
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,959
Speaker 1: they making it so simple that they're expecting that they're

1213
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: just going to be able to play that fast. It's

1214
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: just because I don't think that they have athletes to

1215
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: do that right now, you know. So I hope that

1216
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: they evolve that that's a big thing, and that they

1217
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: build off of this and that they create, you know,

1218
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: a new foundation. But if it's this simple, I just

1219
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: it's hard to see Pittsburgh not completely shutting this this

1220
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: whole situation down. Thanks, Kevin, appreciate the call. Mattson Ohio.

1221
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: What's up, Matt, Hey, guys, how you doing good? Hey? So,

1222
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: I want to go to a point where Mike said

1223
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: in the postgame show, um about our tight ends Hunter,

1224
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: Henry and Johnny just being okay tight ends. I mean,

1225
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: I hate to agree with you. We paid them like

1226
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be great tight ends. So like, yep,

1227
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: that dout to this point of we needed to run

1228
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: two tight ends because we couldn't block anybody. I mean,

1229
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: wasn't that what Aussi Auti did? And uh and um

1230
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: Johnathan Keen But I mean, yeah Keen right, Yeah, didn't

1231
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: we pay them the block to? I mean, why are

1232
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: we paying twelve and a half million dollars a year

1233
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: for for Henry and Johnny? You're not just paying on

1234
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: block you need them to be part. I mean, Hunter

1235
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: Henry had nine touchdowns last year. He's not just a

1236
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: blocker exactly exactly that that's so that's what's like crazy

1237
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: to mean, like I hate to agree with with with

1238
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: dous here, but like why I hate saying that they're

1239
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: well but but but there's two different things like that.

1240
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: You you've paid them because you think that they're part

1241
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: of your passing game and your running game. And you

1242
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: also paid them because you had to well, because you

1243
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: have you needed to get cut it had such a

1244
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: roster that was was birth of talent. You had to

1245
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: get some talented and you had to make sure you

1246
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: got them. But what if your quarterback was a top

1247
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: ten quarterback with Hunter Henry looked better? Yeah? I mean yeah,

1248
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I you think if it was

1249
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes playing quarterback for the Patriots, and I say,

1250
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: any of the top ten Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree

1251
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: that anim Also, the O line gave him some time

1252
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: to throw the ball. I don't know if you saw

1253
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: this that on on Twitter there was this guy, uh

1254
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: was Chad grab Yeah saw that out saying that Jones

1255
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: had three seconds or more to throw on his drop

1256
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: backs only three percent at the time, but that's obviously

1257
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: h not going to bring many games to it as well.

1258
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: Does that take when when they do stats like that,

1259
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: and thanks for the call, Yeah, when they do stats

1260
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: like that to take in consideration the times that the

1261
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: play is meant to get the ball out quick, right,

1262
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, and that was what the whole offense was, right.

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Speaker 1: Miami had a similar thing. They're like lauding their offensive

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Speaker 1: It was like two point seven eight seconds he had

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Speaker 1: or something like that on average, which if it holds,

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Speaker 1: they said, would be an enormous improvement. Like, so, I'm

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Speaker 1: with you, Fred, I think there's a lot of times

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Speaker 1: that the ball was meant to come out immediately, the

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Speaker 1: quick little check downs Mike, you know, like you said,

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Speaker 1: like the whole Peyton Manning thing, He's orchestrating everything up

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Speaker 1: and down and then it's like it's hot and the

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Speaker 1: balls out for three yard game. Right. Yeah. Yeah. The

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Speaker 1: three percent thing just sounded whimlke. So what does that like?

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Speaker 1: Four plays? Like, I don't what's the league average, what's

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Speaker 1: the other plays? But you'll like this, Alex. It's like

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Speaker 1: when they give you the WNBA ratings, they're up forty

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Speaker 1: four percent. Yeah, no, that's another anything. They started the

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Speaker 1: w NBA Finals the second year in a row on

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Speaker 1: the first NFL Sunday Football, Like, I'm just trying to

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Speaker 1: support the Connecticut Sun and they're making it so hard

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Speaker 1: for me. Yeah. Uh, Rashad's in Baltimore. Hey, Rashad, He

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Speaker 1: what's up? Guys? Hey, I just I just want to

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Speaker 1: say first before I say anything, I definitely do want

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Speaker 1: to give a shout out to College Doesn't because I

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Speaker 1: think I think he had a good game he made.

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Speaker 1: I think he made three style of tackles on Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Kill and you know it's a it's a it's something

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Speaker 1: you're talking about Jonathan Jones. They say he's a good tackler. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but on but on the game in general, it was

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Speaker 1: it was. It was hard to watch. But I thought,

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Speaker 1: and I thought in the beginning, the first couple of

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Speaker 1: drives we were, we were running the ball pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought they had something going. But one seat,

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Speaker 1: once they do the pick, I don't know, it's something change.

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Speaker 1: But I thought that first drive they were and even

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Speaker 1: the drive after that, I thought they were running the ball,

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Speaker 1: you know, and throwing the ball. He's not deep, but

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Speaker 1: just they had a good offense going. But I don't

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Speaker 1: like I like the running game. But it's just it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be, I said, I I won't I wouldn't blame Max,

1302
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Speaker 1: but it's gotta be there. It's gotta be the offense.

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Speaker 1: Like the coaches have to help them somehow, you know.

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Speaker 1: I know everybody's was saying so Pendris Boyd, and I'm

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Speaker 1: saying the same thing because there's no reason why he's going.

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Speaker 1: He had two snaps and one of the snaps he

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Speaker 1: got forty forty one forty two yards. So it's like

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Speaker 1: it's hard, it's it's hard to see. But you know

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Speaker 1: he's looking as you looking forward to Sunday, and I

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Speaker 1: think he I think we can take the sale, mister

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Speaker 1: BISTI I think we can take him. Okay, I don't

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Speaker 1: all right, yeah, thanks for shot. I mean not all.

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Speaker 1: If you watch that offense, you should should have at

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Speaker 1: least some kind of hope. I mean, they were they

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Speaker 1: were as an effective Although it does sound like Nagi

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Speaker 1: Harris's is gonna play we'll see all. Their offense was

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Speaker 1: one of I think the two in the AFC that

1318
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: was worse than yours on Sunday. So there's that, and

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Speaker 1: you knows the Patriots also didn't really bust out on

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01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: any of the trick plays. There was a little bit

1321
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: of that with Pittsburgh too, like you know, just teams

1322
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: trying to manufactu your yards back in like two thousand

1323
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: and seven Anthony Smith. But sneaky there by Paul though,

1324
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: he's already set it up if the Patriots defense stops

1325
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh while their offense is worse than yours, so he's

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Speaker 1: already playing the long game. Set that out. Did I

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Speaker 1: have to set that up? Or did they? Did? They

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Speaker 1: have five turnovers that they created the other day and

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Speaker 1: still always scored third top But if if I'm doing

1330
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Radio, I'm saying, if we don't have those turnovers,

1331
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: we're a good offense Pittsburgh. Yeah, No, no, No, they

1332
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Speaker 1: created the turnovers. They didn't turn the ball over all right,

1333
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: Cincinnati turned it over. That's the only way they scored

1334
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: was because Cincinnati turned it over five times. Well, how

1335
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Speaker 1: do you know that? Because I watched the gate? No

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01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: I know, but like, how do you know they wouldn't

1337
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: have scored other ways as they had off like, well,

1338
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: let's than two hundred yards of offense. I know most

1339
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: people don't think that. Were they always starting on a

1340
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: short field because of the turnovers? No, they didn't get

1341
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: to the end zone. I mean, you know, five turnovers,

1342
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: a lot of turnovers. I know to only score at thirteen,

1343
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: it's on. Uh Williams and pellam, what's up William Hey?

1344
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Speaker 1: What's going on for it? How are you going? Good?

1345
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Speaker 1: Oh man? What a what a game? Huh? The game?

1346
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Speaker 1: Could think it's the first week we get it out

1347
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Speaker 1: of our system. They won't even remember it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1348
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to trust me. I forgot about it just

1349
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: that like, um so um, you were talking about the

1350
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Speaker 1: team being uh there what they were being thought or something?

1351
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: He was saying that you hear it one more time?

1352
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Speaker 1: Well last year last year, I forget who it was.

1353
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Speaker 1: And it was probably more than one opponent saying that

1354
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: the Patriots are easy to defend. Okay, so so let

1355
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Speaker 1: me get you a little push back. Why do you

1356
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: think that they say that for it because we were

1357
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: easy to defend? Because like, why do you think the

1358
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: easy to defend? He's too well, it could it's nothing

1359
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: they saw or no player pressure stress. I think William's

1360
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,479
Speaker 1: going to go to players, and I'm going to agree

1361
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, exactly, it's the same thing. You're gonna see,

1362
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: the same thing you're gonna look stark, no playmakers defense

1363
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: or offense. It's like you can't even argue more. It's

1364
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: like the Belichick line talking to Brady and O nine

1365
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: and all we have is Moss over the top and

1366
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: welcome underneath. They slammed down on that. We have no

1367
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: we have no options because they had no players. Who's

1368
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: this who's the who's the star receiver that's going to

1369
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: like welcome and Moss this team? Well, that shows you,

1370
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: how that shows you how different it is now, how

1371
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: much easier it is now because you didn't have Brad, Brady,

1372
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Speaker 1: Welcoer and Moss right exactly when no star corners. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at it. The offensive line is struggling.

1374
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: That's why Mac is looking the way he's looking, right.

1375
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: I can't. I'll put some of that on Mac though,

1376
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: but it stuff the offensive line. If he's not protected,

1377
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: how he's on me to books? So um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll leave it at Dad. Gentleman, y'all take care and

1379
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Speaker 1: go back. All right, Well, yeah, that's what I think

1380
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Speaker 1: I'm worried about, is that is this now McDaniels was

1381
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Speaker 1: able to make a serviceable offense because he's a brilliant

1382
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and knows how to sequence plays and adjust

1383
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Speaker 1: and work in trip plays and all that stuff. My

1384
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: worry is, now are we seeing somebody who doesn't quite

1385
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Speaker 1: know how to do that? So now your lack of

1386
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Speaker 1: weapons is getting even more exposed because you're not able

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Speaker 1: to rely on your playbook. And I would even take

1388
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: it a step further and wonder if Josh by the

1389
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Speaker 1: end of the year last year, to Fred's um repeated

1390
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: quote about being easy to defend, maybe Josh had run

1391
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Speaker 1: out of That's why that's why he targeted Davanta Adam

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Speaker 1: seventeen times. And maybe he had just run out of

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Speaker 1: own commitment to performance excellence. This is Matt life for

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01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: Putnam Investments a world of investing. We are Patriots, and

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01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 1: our standards are a little different. We don't just carry

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01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: the hopes of the city, but the hopes of an

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01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 1: entire region. For us, no uphill battle is ever too

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01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 1: high to climb in. Our favorite ring is the next one.

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01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: Our job isn't done until the final down is played

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01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: and everyone knows we gave it our all. We the fans,

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01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 1: march forward with the power to do what it takes,

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01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: just like we've done time and time again. We are

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01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: the home field advantage. Bank of America is proud to

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01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: be the official bank of the New England Patriots and

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01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: stand with them as they defy the odds. Copyright twenty

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01:11:55,840 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: twenty Bank of America Corporation. Jones takes the snap, dropping

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01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: back into the throw the Alfred Jacobe Myers right on target.

1484
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 1: He brings it down here the first down marker on

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01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: that outside half the thirty four yard lost in the

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01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: shotgun to start this game. Outside motion by Henry down

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01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: In and then Jones. Those are real accurate. Balda Myers

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01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: on the speedout to the rights right side. That's the

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01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: way he started game. Nine yards or first down. Hat's

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01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 1: going away from most wife to left and again the

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01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: Harris run through a big hole left side. I crossed

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01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: the forty five and to the forty seven yard lode

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01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: with the first down run for New England. Matt with

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01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: a staff has time, throws it left wide open. Henry

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01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: catches the floater of the twenty five showed it out

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01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,560
Speaker 1: of bound for the Patriots on the move. On this

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01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 1: opening series, Matt moves fourth hand with an set up

1498
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: the line. He backs up and leads towards laps his hands,

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01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 1: takes the staffs. I've thrown it the rod. He's looking

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01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: for Parker of fifty fifty ball batting in the air

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01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: and then intercepted coming back. I'm on the first side,

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01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: Law across the thirty. We'll make it the twenty five

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01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: and tackle if a twenty eight guard. Low Holland with

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01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 1: the interception for Miami, didn't give him a chance. The

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01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: ball short. The ball short here. He had him put

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01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: it up there so he could go get it. Make

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01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: it a fifty fifty ball to him, fall short up

1508
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: the helmet. There's the flush. Lama will break from the huddle.

1509
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: Tyree Gilt splits to the right. Jonathan jogs their defensive

1510
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: and Kaln Watt along to the left and Jalen Mills

1511
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: across from him. Tall go my little other center. Edmund's

1512
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,560
Speaker 1: the single bat and there's early in moving Kat with

1513
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:02,520
Speaker 1: Kaseki the tight end in motion, players pointing in both directions.

1514
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: Carl Davis make contact right away. Newtub Vona fracticy be

1515
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: fast from sure that five Darlf paltea result in a

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01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 1: first down. This intenant will be from forty three yards far.

1517
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: Hashbart snap his down kick is headed for the uprights

1518
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: and that kick is good, so the Dolphins are able

1519
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: to get on the board first to get the field goal.

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01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: After the turnover, it's three nothing. Miami burns down in

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01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: twelve from the forty two. New England snapped to Jones,

1522
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: throws it out to the right for Aglar trying to

1523
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 1: get outside. He does along the far sideline well the

1524
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: first down, catching Kerry Well blocked out on the far

1525
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 1: side with Bread and Jones eventually making a sieving play

1526
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: for Miami. Now first and ten and a give on

1527
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: the end. A round left for a hill versus Way

1528
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 1: a class to fifty tackled by Dugger. That's another good

1529
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: stick by Kyle Dugger, and the playmate just a class

1530
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: midfield to under center tosses it right for James Edmonds.

1531
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 1: A beat on the play by takes him down in

1532
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: the backfield and that's a loss inside the Miami forty five.

1533
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: That's a coming at us from Afar and Jones to

1534
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: send Parker in motion to the right, covered by Howard.

1535
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: Matt takes the shot again Staff cressure from the buy

1536
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: inside the ball is freezy skit. It's picked up. If

1537
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 1: the Dolton touchdown and Ingram hasn't celebrated in his first

1538
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: game of Miami, chatter and Staff the MAXs what's coming.

1539
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: He throws long looking for Jacomee Myers, who lead got

1540
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: it and brings it down. I got a great catch,

1541
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: buy Myers along the air sideline in front of the

1542
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: Patriots fence covered by Antam at the Dolphin forty four

1543
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: yard lodge. Second down to ten from the forty five

1544
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: shotgun step pentago by Low under pressure hit by Jo

1545
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 1: Doll and Matt has the sack inside the forty five.

1546
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: After the Adrian Phillips injury of the Dolphins of the

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01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: fourth down and eight from the Patriot forty two, they

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01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: keep the offense out there with twenty four seconds to

1549
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 1: go into ten nothing Miami lead Boster to the light

1550
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 1: and plato by Low, who takes the snap. I was

1551
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: looking at it. Throw quickly one over the middle. It's

1552
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: cot and gone on the run. Jalen Laddle touched down Miami.

1553
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: He made the grab over the middle. He left dugger

1554
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: and Bentley in his way. The Dolphins snap it, they

1555
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: throw it, they score it. Sixteen nothing, Miami four to two.

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01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: Year in zone. Myers of a tight split to the right,

1557
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 1: and I give the Harris starts off the ddle jump

1558
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 1: cut right through a hole across the thirty, carrying a

1559
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: defender out to the thirty five yard line. A nice

1560
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 1: cut in her first down run with some powers. Well,

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01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 1: now the Pats have a third and goal to go

1562
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: from the sixth down seventeen nothing. Myers slots left his

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01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: side of Agile or Parker split to the right, Montgomery

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01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: in the Backgrood of the right of Joe. Matt stops

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01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: the right, flip, takes the snap, drop him back. He's

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01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: got Montgomery alone to the right. He loses his balance.

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01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 1: He rolls into the end zone. Touchdown. Patriots forty nine

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01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: yard field goal try by Sanders from the far hatch.

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01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 1: Jason Sanders, the veteran Dolphin kicker out of sim out

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01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: of New Mexico. The snap from Blake Ferguson on its

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01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 1: way held by Moorstead. They kicked sailing to the uprights

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01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: and Matt kick is cooking, hooking, hooklo but it stays

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01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: just inside. It's good for the Dolphins. Now you got

1574
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,839
Speaker 1: Born in the game, Hedrick Born. He need an absent.

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01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 1: You're out the first half and change. Eigh white socks,

1576
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: red shoes, white gloves, lined up outside of the left

1577
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: first and ten staff to Jones dropping back. He's thrown

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01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: toward Burn down the left side. He's got separatioikes to

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01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 1: catch after forty five and he has get out of

1580
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 1: bouts at the forty one of Miami first legs snap

1581
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: it back to Jones. Took Montgomery to his lust two receivers.

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01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: Right as Matt dropped back, he looks across the little

1583
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: catch by Aglare. He's hitting out on the ball Popery

1584
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: and now scrambled from the loose ball Dolphins cabin, but

1585
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 1: wasn't a catch away anyone. The ball in and out

1586
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: of Aglore his hands on the contact. Alison is trying

1587
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: to wrestle it away. The early wild of the catch

1588
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 1: bumble and covered by the defense. First out the Dolphins

1589
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 1: to line up again, not a victory formation. After kneel

1590
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: down by Tunga Byela, He's got river creat craft behind

1591
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: him just in case. He will drop to the knee

1592
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,759
Speaker 1: one more time and the Dolphins have their fourth straight

1593
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: win over the Patriots. It's a season opening victory for

1594
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,719
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel in his first game as an NFL head

1595
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 1: coach at the expense of Bill Belichick and the padres

1596
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: in Belichick four hundred and thirty fourth kade as an

1597
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: NFL and head coach. Sloppy performance by the Patriots, three

1598
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 1: turnovers and they lose by two scores, twenty to seven

1599
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: here in South Florida. All right, that's the Matt Morrel mashup,

1600
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 1: six minutes of making the best of what we could,

1601
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: making lemonade, lemonade out of lemons. Let's see eight five

1602
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 1: five past five hundred is the eight ticket hutline web

1603
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: radio at Patriots dot com. It's the email address. It's

1604
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: due Aallex, Paul, myself, Matt and the booth. John and

1605
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: Lando Lakes writes in about Matt. He says Mac was

1606
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: fine protect him. Any shortcomings stem from the old line.

1607
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: If the checkdown as opposed to a loss, maybe, and

1608
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. The play didn't have

1609
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 1: time to develop. I don't know which play he's talking about, right,

1610
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: but anyway, anyway, he says, it's all about the old line.

1611
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: I would say the offensive line is a bigger issue

1612
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:23,919
Speaker 1: than the quarterback. But those that are going to continue

1613
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 1: to ignore the fact that the quarterback isn't playing well

1614
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 1: are going to be missing the point because and hasn't

1615
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: played well for a while. No, and I, this is

1616
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:39,719
Speaker 1: the one thing that we predicted, and it's only one week,

1617
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 1: small sample size, but it's come through. It's been at

1618
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: one accurate. No matter how bad they are offensively, the

1619
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 1: heat's not going to go on Mac. It's going to

1620
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: go on Bill and the idea to put Patricia and Judge.

1621
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 1: I don't think that was a huge problem on Sunday.

1622
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 1: I don't think the play calling. I you know, what

1623
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 1: are the calls that I disagreed with? Yep, just like

1624
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,799
Speaker 1: I always had one or two that I disagree with Josh.

1625
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: I didn't like the third and three run up the middle,

1626
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: even though I looked at you before that play and

1627
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 1: I said, two down territory, here comes a run, right, um.

1628
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: But I didn't love that call. I didn't. I've already

1629
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 1: been on record saying I didn't love the decision to

1630
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: challenge Zavian Howard on the first drive. But I don't

1631
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 1: think that was an issue. Do you do you think

1632
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: play calling, specifically what they did was an issue. I didn't.

1633
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: I think it's an easy thing. It's an easy thing

1634
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 1: to fix on, fix it on because of the unconventional

1635
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: thing they did. Mac Jones didn't play for I mean,

1636
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: the one play that everyone looked at was that I

1637
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 1: think it was third and three or fourth and three,

1638
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 1: and they ran it into the line. If you get

1639
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: with third and three, yea when hosts aren't listening, I know.

1640
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 1: But other than that, like even that, even that one,

1641
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: I was I got it. I know, I know what

1642
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: they were doing. Like they said before that play, it's

1643
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 1: third and three from the fifty yard line. If we

1644
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: don't get it, we're going for it. So what would

1645
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 1: you rather have happened? Take a shot and make it

1646
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: fourth and one. That's a failure, right, Or if I

1647
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: have any complete pass, now it's fourth and three. Now

1648
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 1: they get stuffed for for nothing, right, Like you can't

1649
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 1: have a running play in that situation that gets stopped

1650
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: from no game that wasn't third and seven. I don't

1651
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: know that that one really didn't people seem fixated on.

1652
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I didn't like the call, only

1653
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: because I don't think that the sole goal right there

1654
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: is moving the chains. I think you got to find

1655
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: a way to get in the end zone and as

1656
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: quickly as possible. That's why I didn't like the call.

1657
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 1: But let's just say it was twenty to seventeen at

1658
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 1: that time, I wouldn't have hated that call, Alex, and

1659
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 1: Philly says, Unfortunately, Fred, it looks like this offense is

1660
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: still easy to defend. No one gets separation, every catch

1661
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: is contested. No speed, nothing explosive, nothing dynamic. There isn't

1662
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 1: a single person that makes something happen without scheming it. Now.

1663
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna say it's just one game, but

1664
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: it's not. We've been saying the same thing about the

1665
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 1: offense since twenty nineteen, Brady's last year. Even though I

1666
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,799
Speaker 1: don't like the OC process, I don't believe play calling

1667
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: is the biggest issue. It's the roster. It doesn't matter

1668
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: what plays you call if you don't have guys you

1669
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,799
Speaker 1: can make a difference. The Patriots don't have those guys.

1670
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: Next year, the Patriots have cap space and most likely

1671
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: a top five pick, So next year they should have

1672
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 1: a new coach and GM time to get off this

1673
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 1: hamster wheel of mediocrity. I mean, I agree with a

1674
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 1: lot of what he said earlier on though. I mean,

1675
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 1: that's you know, it's it looks the same. It looks

1676
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: the same as the offense last year, regardless of all

1677
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: these like scheme changes and play calling changes and all that.

1678
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just, you know, everything is kind of

1679
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: a grind right now, and they still haven't found that

1680
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: speed that they were looking to install this year. Sulman

1681
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area. He says, I'm not overreacting to

1682
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: a loss as its week one, but I do want

1683
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: to talk about curious play calling on the goal to

1684
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: go situation in the second half. On first and goal,

1685
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 1: it was an underneath pass to Harris, Then second and goal,

1686
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: it was an underneath pass to Harris on third and goal,

1687
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: and underneath past to Montgomery who needed to roll into

1688
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 1: the end zone for a touchdown. Why three straight underneath

1689
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: passes to running backs in this situation? Why not take

1690
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 1: a shot with a pass in the end zone? That

1691
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: was confusing to me, even though they scored, So who

1692
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 1: are you criticizing? Well, the last one to Montgomery could

1693
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: have been like, oh, this guy fell down. I'm gonna

1694
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 1: go to d like, where is the criticism on that.

1695
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: I'm just curious because I would criticize the quarterback for that,

1696
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: because don't tell me that all three of those plays

1697
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: was supposed to be quick throws to the flat. Yeah

1698
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 1: that's possible. Yeah, those the guys open. I mean, you know,

1699
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: I'd be worth a look at the all twenty two

1700
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: see if he goes through a progression, if their other

1701
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: potential that my first album one makes sense. You know,

1702
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 1: I forget exactly where they were on the field, but

1703
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: you have a chance, maybe the eight yard line. I

1704
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 1: think you have a chance to to get get the ball.

1705
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 1: I think it was Stevenson that they were throwing too

1706
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: and it got battered at the line. That's a chance

1707
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,719
Speaker 1: to get the ball in space to a guy who's

1708
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 1: tough to bring down. In that situation, I can set

1709
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 1: up you know, second and goal from the three or

1710
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 1: something like that. Now it gets batted down to get nothing.

1711
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 1: But I don't think that they said, no, we're just

1712
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: gonna throw three passes in the flag. This is what

1713
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: we want to do and eventually we'll get one in

1714
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: the end zone. I don't think that was the design

1715
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: of those three plays. I think, you know, getting back

1716
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: to the pass protection. I think that's on Mac's mind

1717
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: right now, and that's why maybe some of the throws

1718
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: are coming out as quickly as they are, because he's

1719
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 1: not allowing anything else to happen. Cole and Eugene Oregon

1720
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: says Mac was bad against the Dolphins. I was frustrated

1721
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: by his inability to hit open receivers, how long it

1722
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 1: takes his passes to reach receivers when they are open,

1723
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 1: and some of the decisions he made. Here were a

1724
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: couple bad plays that stood out to me. The failed

1725
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: scene passed to Hunter Henry was horrific. It was a

1726
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 1: bad throw to a well covered receiver. The interception to

1727
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 1: Parker was underthrown. He's supposed to throw it where only

1728
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 1: his receiver could make the catch in the back corner

1729
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,679
Speaker 1: of the end zone. He missed the receiver streaking down

1730
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 1: the sideline before the forty yard passed or Bourne. There

1731
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: are plenty more bats are to the Year two jump

1732
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 1: I was hoping for. I felt the Patriots offense was

1733
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 1: limited by max ability. I think he'll be better this

1734
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,839
Speaker 1: week and we'll get the W against the Pittsburgh Stinkers.

1735
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: Good He's gonna have to He's gonna have to earn it.

1736
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I think if they, if they could, you know,

1737
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,839
Speaker 1: move the ball and string some stuff together and protect

1738
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 1: Mac and give us some time, albeit without t J. Watt.

1739
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 1: And you'll hear that as a response, I'm sure. But

1740
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: it's still at this point, like I'd take it against

1741
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: Foxboro High School and it's still to go out participate.

1742
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: This is still a good defense, Like I think Watt is,

1743
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 1: you know, the special player. But it's not like Pittsburgh

1744
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: has left without any any personnel on defense. Phones are

1745
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 1: stacked up eight five five, Pats five hundred. Let's go

1746
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 1: to Sean and Vancouver. What's up Sean? Hey? Everyone? Well, yeah,

1747
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 1: I don't think Matt Jones had a good game. And

1748
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, I'm not surprised that the Patriots lost

1749
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 1: in Miami. What happens. But I want to look at

1750
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:01,440
Speaker 1: what I'm expecting of what I'm hoping for against Pittsburgh.

1751
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: There's a few things we've talked about, or we've talked

1752
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: about that the Patriots tried and just didn't do enough of,

1753
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 1: like Harris getting more carries, Born having more downfield targets,

1754
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 1: about more than one Jonah Smith getting the ball in space.

1755
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 1: And also maybe you haven't mentioned, but Montgomery placed the outside,

1756
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 1: not running up the middle. I'd like to see them

1757
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 1: try that against Pittsburgh on Sunday. All right, yeah, thanks.

1758
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 1: I mean they tried to run outside a lot in

1759
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: this game, I thought, with very mixed results. I thought

1760
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 1: the Stevenson stuff that you were talking about earlier, I think, yeah, yeah,

1761
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 1: and I think they had Yeah, they had a hard

1762
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: time I thought, consistently getting those plays. You know, I

1763
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 1: don't I don't know that they need to run outside

1764
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: more with Montgomery or anybody else. Um the other stuff.

1765
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: I'd like to see a little bit more um diversity

1766
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 1: to the passing game in terms of depth, like you

1767
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: talk about Mike that intermediate depth. Yeah, as I think

1768
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,679
Speaker 1: right now, it seems like you just stack the line

1769
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: and you know, like don't let them run, don't let

1770
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: them get the little dump offs. It's fine, and just

1771
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, when they take the shots, be ready for him.

1772
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: But there's just it's just so what's weird about watching

1773
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 1: the other games is too, is that you know, you

1774
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: just you realize you've gotten used to watching this Patriots

1775
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: offense and then it's kind of striking at times when

1776
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 1: you see teams throwing like a fifteen yard dig down

1777
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 1: field and the guy catches it and runs and they're like,

1778
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: we don't see a lot of that, And you know

1779
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 1: what it is, in my opinion, like people think like, well,

1780
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 1: you gotta throw it deep, but that takes too long. No,

1781
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: Like they throw it short and they throw it deep

1782
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 1: because those are the quickest passes to get rid of.

1783
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: And you look at all the deep balls on Sunday

1784
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 1: and they threw a handful of them, you know, the

1785
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 1: Parker one that got picked, the one to agg Aalod,

1786
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: the one to Born. Those are like catch, throw it up,

1787
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 1: you know, the one that Myers caught, the contested one

1788
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: that Myers caught. There's no like that. That ball's coming

1789
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 1: out before three seconds. I'll guarantee of that. Yeah. But

1790
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 1: the intermediate stuff that takes time to develop. You're crossing

1791
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: the field, you're you know, maybe you're you know, looking

1792
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 1: to get one guy underneath, one guy down the seam.

1793
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 1: Those are kind of like the route concepts that take

1794
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: some time. And we talk about that all the time

1795
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: during seven on sevens and you're like, oh, I don't know,

1796
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that one would have worked the same

1797
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: way with a rush. I think that's part of it is.

1798
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 1: I think Mac has I think, at least right now,

1799
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 1: Mac is more concerned with the pass rush than anything else.

1800
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 1: Let's go to Sameir in Maine. What's up, Samir? Samir?

1801
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 1: Are you calling Hardy? Yes? Yes, good Joby. That's fun.

1802
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 1: I was listening and every time that everywhere I know,

1803
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 1: Fred's chuckle yes, and you were that's the best part. Yeah.

1804
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 1: What you should have done was sent to selfie. It

1805
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 1: was just you're so philosophically opposted the selfie, you wouldn't

1806
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 1: do it. He should charge me, Rent, I'm in his head.

1807
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 1: That's all he's thinking about now. H CD is in

1808
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:03,639
Speaker 1: winter Park floor. What's up CD? Oh man, Hey guys,

1809
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 1: big fans of all of you, Thank you taking my call.

1810
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:13,440
Speaker 1: Thank you. So my question is um with I thought

1811
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 1: the first drive of the game, I looked really good.

1812
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,480
Speaker 1: I thought Mac looked comfortable. We moved the ball well. Unfortunately,

1813
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 1: you know it ended with that tip ball in the

1814
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 1: interception in the end zone. And then coming out of

1815
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 1: the halftime third quarter again another great drive, moving the

1816
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 1: ball down well. But it seems like when they have

1817
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:40,759
Speaker 1: the time to pre plan those drives. At the beginning

1818
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 1: of the first quarter, beginning of the third quarter, you know,

1819
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 1: they looked good. And I thought, especially the first drive,

1820
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 1: Mac kind of looked comfortable, looked better than last year.

1821
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: I was. I was really happy how we started out

1822
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:54,600
Speaker 1: of the gate. Um, I'm gonna take this as a

1823
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: sample size and I'm just gonna look at it throughout

1824
01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 1: the year. But I think, um, and i'd love your

1825
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 1: guy is his thought, Um, Matt Patricia doing too much.

1826
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't think the O line's up to par. I

1827
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: think we need to get that settled in UM. And

1828
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 1: the play calling, I agree with Paul, I think you said,

1829
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't think the play calls

1830
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 1: was not necessarily that bad, but maybe that's taking away

1831
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 1: from some of his O line duties. What are your thoughts? Yeah,

1832
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: he was asked about that today. I mean, I think

1833
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 1: that's a you know, it's a it's a good question.

1834
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, it's it's easy to pile on

1835
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia for you know, what he has or hasn't

1836
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 1: done well in the past, and you know, but I

1837
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 1: still just think if you take his side for a minute,

1838
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 1: there is a lot on him, and especially when we're

1839
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: talking so much about the offensive line and the issues there.

1840
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got his hands heavily in both of

1841
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: the biggest kind of issues facing the officie. A lot

1842
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 1: of times, a lot, I've seen the OC be the

1843
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:53,679
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, you know, or the head coach b the OC.

1844
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 1: How often had OC's also been another position coach other

1845
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 1: than quarterback. It's a great question. I mean, I would

1846
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 1: have specifically offensive line because I've never seen that. Yeah,

1847
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 1: and then I all of a sudden, Florida State, I

1848
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 1: sent you the clip. I was like that one hand

1849
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 1: be done. I've never heard of an offensive line coach

1850
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:21,600
Speaker 1: being the offensive coordinator. Yeah, until now. Mike writes in

1851
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:24,599
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn. I watched the game yesterday. I could only

1852
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 1: listen and get the replay where I am, and I

1853
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 1: thought it looked much better than the announcers and you

1854
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 1: guys made it sound. I thought the offense looked good

1855
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:33,639
Speaker 1: for most of the first half. I agree with Paul

1856
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. The Parker play was a whole, but

1857
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been thrown there anyway. In my mind, if

1858
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: they put Howard on Parker, the Patriots should be looking

1859
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 1: at their other two ride receivers who are better than

1860
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 1: Parker and drawing Worth cornerbacks. I thought they ran the

1861
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 1: ball well more often they were then they were bottled up,

1862
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 1: and I thought the defense looked really good except in

1863
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 1: the tackling on one play. I think the offseason investment

1864
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: and speed really paid off. Miami kept trying lateral motions

1865
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 1: and outside quick throws to test the speed of the

1866
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:04,879
Speaker 1: Patriots defense to the perimeter, and Dugger, Bentley, and Wilson

1867
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 1: all seemed to respond well. Just three or four plays

1868
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,679
Speaker 1: made the difference, and I think Matt got noticeably less

1869
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 1: accurate and lost even more power than he already lacks

1870
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 1: on his throws somewhere late in the third, which I

1871
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 1: figured is when he heard his back if he had

1872
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 1: to be discouraged by. One thing is that this team

1873
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 1: isn't talented enough to make three or four crucial mistakes

1874
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: and still win. But I think they can play clean

1875
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 1: and get a few bounces Miami recovered. I think three

1876
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 1: of their own fumbles. They should be in it again

1877
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,679
Speaker 1: against all but the best teams. Where am I wrong?

1878
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 1: But that's I mean, okay, But I just don't know

1879
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 1: like how you can have so much optimism of what

1880
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 1: they did offensively. He's not alone either. There's a lot

1881
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 1: of people that think that they you know, I thought

1882
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 1: that they had a really good first drive. Like I

1883
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 1: don't know where the excitement is on the offense. Yeah,

1884
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 1: justin from you. I mean, we could talk about it.

1885
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,640
Speaker 1: We don't have to just just I'm looking at the

1886
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 1: drive chart that like. And again I'm not picking it Bill,

1887
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 1: but I'm using Bill's words because I think a lot

1888
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 1: of people have taken what Bill said and they're saying, yeah, yeah,

1889
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 1: they moved the ball. They got inside the Miami forty

1890
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 1: yard line twice in the entire game, twice, Like that's

1891
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 1: the goal is to get around midfield. Like they had

1892
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 1: more than two first downs on a possession twice in

1893
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: the entire game. Said two drives four. They got four

1894
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 1: first downs on the first possession. They got seven first

1895
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,799
Speaker 1: downs on the first possession of the second half. Otherwise

1896
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 1: it was two zero. I won't count the kneel down

1897
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 1: at the end of the half. One zero in two. Miami,

1898
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 1: which the defense played great, evidently had three first downs,

1899
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 1: three first downs, four first downs right out of the

1900
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,480
Speaker 1: shoot first four verse three times that they had the ball.

1901
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 1: Then they got stopped for three and out the first

1902
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 1: drive of the second half when probably got away with

1903
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 1: a penalty on the third downplay, but big three and out,

1904
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: seventeen nothing. You gotta get a three and out. They

1905
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 1: got it. But then again the next time they get

1906
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 1: the ball, three first downs field goal after you screw

1907
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,599
Speaker 1: a touchdown, Now I need the ball back again, three

1908
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:25,639
Speaker 1: first downs field goal. And then the end of the game,

1909
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 1: they had four first downs to melt the clock. Now

1910
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: I agree with Fred on the last drive. I think

1911
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 1: the ag a little fumble. I think that was it.

1912
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 1: You know, the Patriots said, yeah, we don't have enough time,

1913
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 1: so I'm not going to kill him for the last drive. Yeah,

1914
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 1: that is one thing I think, And I mean, I

1915
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 1: think I definitely feel a little bit like Fred to

1916
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 1: feel some positivity about just some of the defensive pieces.

1917
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 1: But the concerning part to me situationally, and I think

1918
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 1: that's been a concern the last couple of seasons, and

1919
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, the end of the half touchdown saw that

1920
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:56,719
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Over the last couple of years,

1921
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 1: the inability to get that last stop to give them

1922
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: a chance to get back and you want to say,

1923
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 1: like you want to tell me the strip sack. Yeah,

1924
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, okay, they missed they missed a guy, they

1925
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 1: missed a blitzer, they didn't pick him up. It's a

1926
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 1: bad play. They missed it. That's not something that's going

1927
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 1: to happen every game. Like there was nothing. Like there

1928
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:21,639
Speaker 1: was a fourth and seven and they said, we're gonna

1929
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 1: go for this because if we don't get it, we

1930
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna move the ball enough to get

1931
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 1: a field goal at the end of the half. And

1932
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 1: that was just we didn't do anything special. We just

1933
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 1: lined up and ran a slant and you know, at

1934
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 1: the very least you were going to get the I mean,

1935
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fifteen yard game minimum. He caught it,

1936
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 1: you know, twelve fifteen yards downfield. Oh, it was well

1937
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 1: beyond the first down. It wasn't like a five yard pass.

1938
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 1: It was well passed the first down. So they're gonna

1939
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 1: get a field goal on that drive anyway. But everybody's

1940
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 1: talking about that play like, well, you know, it's just

1941
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 1: you know Fluke, you know, it's kind of like it's

1942
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:00,080
Speaker 1: it's like the David Tyree catch, And I'm just like

1943
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 1: there was nothing flukey about it. And here's another thing

1944
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 1: that bugs me. Do you remember in the Raiders preseason

1945
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 1: game when Stidham was in the game early and they

1946
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 1: threw like a seam route wide open to the tight

1947
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 1: end Kyle Duggery. Yeah, everybody on Twitter was telling me, Yeah,

1948
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 1: it's preseason. We're not we're not game planning. We're not

1949
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 1: gonna have Kyle Dugger in that situation where he's out

1950
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 1: of position and missing the tackle until the first game

1951
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 1: comes and Adrian Phillips gets hurt and Kyle Dugger is

1952
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 1: the guy doing that and Devin mccordy's covering the back

1953
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 1: in the flat. So you are like, these things are

1954
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 1: gonna come up from time to time. And I think

1955
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger had a really solid game that was marred

1956
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 1: by one really bad play as a result, He's tough.

1957
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: I mean, this is year three for him. You know,

1958
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 1: if people really want him, you don't like him as

1959
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 1: much as all. I just I want him to be better.

1960
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:57,600
Speaker 1: And I think like everyone's like he's going to be

1961
01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 1: a star. I'm like, well, we're in your three, Like

1962
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:00,880
Speaker 1: this is the time for him to be a star.

1963
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 1: And stopped making these kinds of stars, And I agree

1964
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 1: with Mike on that, Like, if you're a star, you're

1965
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 1: probably going to be a star bye by now. I mean,

1966
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 1: what about him makes you think that he's going to

1967
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 1: be be here passed lot next year? Like, I mean,

1968
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:14,640
Speaker 1: they got plenty of safeties they roll right through. Do

1969
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:16,600
Speaker 1: you think Josh Bledsoe is really that much of a

1970
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: drop off to to what Dugger really was? I don't know.

1971
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 1: He does not like Dugger as much as I do.

1972
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 1: That might be a first on this show that I

1973
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:25,679
Speaker 1: like a Patriots player more than you. He's not perfect,

1974
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 1: so you don't like because I like a lot of

1975
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:30,720
Speaker 1: Patriots players, but do like hearts a lot of Patriots? Well,

1976
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 1: I just think that you got you have seven strong

1977
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 1: safeties on the team, Like what special about Probably your

1978
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 1: best one is Dugger. Probably I would go with Adrian Phillips,

1979
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 1: Mich go Adrian Phillips, Philip, But either way, it's a debate.

1980
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 1: And you know that's I think Adrian Phillips is much

1981
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,759
Speaker 1: more effective as a two way safety. What a pepper

1982
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:49,679
Speaker 1: he can cover not a lot. He came in more

1983
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 1: when when Phillips went down him and seemed like he

1984
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 1: was Wilson down not so much party too, and your

1985
01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:00,600
Speaker 1: guy oushe he didn't do much now that that, But

1986
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 1: that's another one to Mike's point about like, yeah, he's

1987
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 1: superstar in the Yeah by year three, if you're going

1988
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:11,639
Speaker 1: to be a star, you've definitely like shown that. Yeah,

1989
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 1: you've you've shown flashes of stardom. And I don't think

1990
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 1: I've seen that from Mouche And I didn't see much

1991
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 1: from him the other day Johnny and Jason, did I

1992
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 1: miss that? No? No, I mean you guys you know,

1993
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Alex, I'm not sure if you know, but

1994
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 1: Mike and Evan watched the tape. I just have. I

1995
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 1: haven't watched the tape yet, but I mean, you know,

1996
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 1: just serious question though, Like I mean, let's take Mac

1997
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 1: out of the conversation because I don't want to like

1998
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 1: make this referendum referendum on him. But you know, like

1999
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 1: how many guys right now on offense do you feel

2000
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 1: like our locks to be on this team past next year?

2001
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:46,759
Speaker 1: You know, like that's an excellent question then like cold strange,

2002
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think cold strange. Let's let's

2003
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 1: take the lineman out of it. But like every skill

2004
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 1: position guys like Stevenson's a lock, Max a lock like

2005
01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 1: but wide receivers. Yeah, I don't know that you can

2006
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 1: call anybody a lock. I mean i'd like to, I'd

2007
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 1: like to Thornton, but he's one. Yeah, but I mean,

2008
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, even to change the question a little bit,

2009
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 1: like who do you think would deserves a second contract

2010
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 1: right now? Like I think Jacobe Myers, I would give

2011
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 1: him a second contract right now. Do you think we'll

2012
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 1: get it? I have no idea. I have no idea,

2013
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: and I think it's very possible that he doesn't. Speaking

2014
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 1: of while I thought just came to me, if Thornton

2015
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:26,599
Speaker 1: hadn't gotten hurt, would Burn have been in act or cut?

2016
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: Like I'll give you right now and listen, I'm gonna

2017
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 1: be really anxious. I was. I was trying really hard

2018
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 1: to save this take till after Sunday because I do

2019
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 1: sing out. I have such a big mouth, and I

2020
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 1: can't help myself. I do have the you know, the

2021
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 1: fear for putting this out there that all of a

2022
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:49,759
Speaker 1: sudden he's getting like you know, eleven targets on Sunday.

2023
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 1: You know, they're just like, all right, we proved the point.

2024
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 1: We need back if not, if he's like a bit

2025
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 1: part of the game plan. Again, I think he's a

2026
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 1: real candidate to get moved before the trade deadline. I mean,

2027
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:04,519
Speaker 1: I think you could get I think you could get

2028
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 1: some interest in him from someone who, you know, Keenan

2029
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 1: Allen pulled a hamstring week one. He's gonna be like

2030
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 1: someone that thinks they're pretty good. Yeah, we'll probably need

2031
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 1: a receiver, Godwin, they pulled the hamstring. Yeah, I mean

2032
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 1: even I mean, I don't want to say Miami, but

2033
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,719
Speaker 1: you know, like San Francisco Roots, they know, they're familiar

2034
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 1: with Kendrick Bourne. A little bit. Somebody gets hurt. He's

2035
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:27,599
Speaker 1: had some experience with that. Now again, it's one game

2036
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 1: and that all of a sudden, We've seen it a

2037
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:31,680
Speaker 1: million times, Fred, you and you and me look like,

2038
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:33,599
Speaker 1: well that guy didn't do anything last week, and all

2039
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:36,639
Speaker 1: of a sudden he's getting like passes thrown to him

2040
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:38,680
Speaker 1: like eight times in the first two series where they

2041
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 1: say like I'm gonna force feed him, you know, right

2042
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 1: game involved right away. Maybe that's still coming. Johnny in Wisconsin.

2043
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,720
Speaker 1: This game, this game to me, was decided on the

2044
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 1: first drive. Parker goes into the end zone, as planned that.

2045
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 1: What wasn't planned is the past interference that wasn't called

2046
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 1: leading to the pick. Hard to come back from that. Mentally,

2047
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:02,880
Speaker 1: the letdown was real really, like I think it was

2048
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 1: a penalty. I mean, if it's hard to come back, right,

2049
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 1: penalty not getting fifty five minutes, It truly is hard

2050
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 1: to come back from that. Then your team stink, especially

2051
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 1: with how good that drive was, Like you should be

2052
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 1: able to just live with that. That's bad play. Yeah,

2053
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 1: you know in retrospect, you know what, I think they

2054
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 1: thought we ain't gonna put too many more of those together,

2055
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 1: so we needed that one. Having said that, to me,

2056
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 1: this game could have easily been fourteen fourteen at the

2057
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 1: end of regulation if Wattle doesn't get the disgusting fourth

2058
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 1: down touchdown. Why are we just eliminating that play? Like,

2059
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 1: tell me what was out of the ordinary on that

2060
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 1: play and I'll eliminate it. I have faith this team

2061
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 1: can beat Pittsburgh, not only defensively but offensively also without

2062
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:52,719
Speaker 1: Why always works out for the Patriots, right, Paul, Well,

2063
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 1: I just don't understand, like why we were eliminating the

2064
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 1: Waddle play. No, it's a terrible play. Like if you

2065
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 1: eliminate the sky like no, I will tell you, like

2066
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 1: the play that Tyreek Hill makes with Jack Jones, that's

2067
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 1: not something that Miami can rely on. Like he takes

2068
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 1: the ball away from Jack Jones and makes a big

2069
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 1: play out of it. That drive ended up in a

2070
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:19,479
Speaker 1: field goal. If you want to make the argument, if

2071
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 1: you take away that flukey catch and then that's three

2072
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 1: points that that I can understand. Tell me what happened

2073
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 1: on the Jalen Wattle play that Miami's supposed to apologize

2074
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 1: for that touchdown? It was flukey, But like, what was flukey?

2075
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 1: That's what I'm asking the breakdown at the end of

2076
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 1: the half, But what was flukey about it? They don't

2077
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:41,720
Speaker 1: usually do that. Okay, but Mike has just told you.

2078
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 1: He's given you a couple of examples of other times

2079
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 1: that it has happened. Right when Dugger miss and tackles

2080
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 1: Yeah in space bad angle. I'm looking at this screen

2081
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 1: right now. This justin Tommy Kerran reporting Patricia's upset with

2082
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 1: Kendrick Born after a missed preseason meeting. But that's it.

2083
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 1: That took a while to get out there. No, but okay,

2084
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:14,679
Speaker 1: so the gloves are out, you know, So find them,

2085
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 1: you know, you know, or whatever. Okay, can we talk

2086
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 1: about something then if that's out there or should we

2087
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 1: just keep that a lid. Well, I don't know. It's

2088
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 1: the first I've heard of this. Yeah, so it's not

2089
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 1: out there yet. Then no, I've never heard that before.

2090
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 1: So why I'm told that he was late to a

2091
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,640
Speaker 1: meeting the day of the Carolina game. That's why he

2092
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 1: didn't play in that Carolina Okay, I can't believe that

2093
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:40,040
Speaker 1: that's it. And that's zero point zero percent chance that

2094
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:43,639
Speaker 1: that's it, right, that's what I Yeah. So that's the thing.

2095
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,560
Speaker 1: That's where I agree with Mike Greece. You don't know everything,

2096
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I'm that probably happened, but that's it. Oh, no,

2097
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 1: that happened. Yeah, I have a source that talk. Okay,

2098
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm very comfortable in myself. Fine, so you sit him

2099
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 1: for Carolina and now, okay, we're done because of what Right,

2100
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 1: it feels too much and that's you know, you talked

2101
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 1: about Fred, you know, losing the team. But it's just,

2102
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:11,599
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like players feel like a player

2103
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:16,560
Speaker 1: is being unfairly punished that you know, you're not establishing

2104
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 1: what the expectations are and then what the consequences are

2105
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 1: going to be and all right, so how long? Well

2106
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:24,680
Speaker 1: I mess up a lot of these guys and I

2107
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 1: always go back to, uh, what's his name? The speed

2108
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 1: Burner we used to have a long time ago, Philip

2109
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 1: Tim Dwight. No, Uh, he was Bethel Justin Bethel Johnson,

2110
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:42,679
Speaker 1: Bethel Johnson, Bethel just some guys that they're fine until

2111
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: you discipline them and then their pride kicks in and

2112
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:50,759
Speaker 1: then it's like a snowball. Yeah, they can never say like, Okay,

2113
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:53,920
Speaker 1: my bad. Some guys can't say that they right. And

2114
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 1: he could be one of those guys that it just

2115
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 1: it's now it's getting worse, that's getting could be that

2116
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 1: he's got some it's just like yeah, yeah, you pride,

2117
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 1: you know, like how dare you make me feel? You know,

2118
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:11,679
Speaker 1: call me out in front of these And we talked

2119
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 1: about this live during the practices, right, and we said,

2120
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 1: like it's another day. We haven't seen a lot of

2121
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 1: catches for Kendrick Boyne, right, and we started to backtrack.

2122
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 1: Remember when we did it that day when you know

2123
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:22,960
Speaker 1: Evan was on I think with us, Alex, I know

2124
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 1: you were there and we were talking about go all

2125
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 1: the way back to the offseason when he's riding around

2126
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 1: in a car. It's some charity event with Mike Reis

2127
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 1: and he's telling them all about the changes to the offense.

2128
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 1: To that point, there was speculation that there was streamlining

2129
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 1: quote unquote, that was the word that was always used.

2130
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 1: There's streamlining the offense and trying to simplify some things.

2131
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 1: And we all, I know, Fred, you and I were

2132
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 1: lockstep and saying it's the same system. They're just gonna

2133
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 1: change some things around and blah blah blah blah blah.

2134
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 1: Then Kendrick Boyne said they're changing things and no one's

2135
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 1: certain terms. That was the first anybody was on record

2136
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 1: saying Patriot right, and Alex five feet away, you didn't

2137
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 1: realize history in the making, right. That was the first

2138
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 1: time anybody with the Patriots was on record saying, yes,

2139
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 1: we're going to acknowledge it, Yes we're changing and they

2140
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 1: and I don't think they liked it. Right. He probably

2141
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 1: got talked to about that, and that might have been

2142
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 1: another thing, for sure. That was the first thing. That

2143
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:27,600
Speaker 1: might have been another thing. And it's like, you know,

2144
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:29,799
Speaker 1: and then I'm late for a meeting because I'm pissed.

2145
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:31,760
Speaker 1: You know, he might be one of those guys that

2146
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 1: like he's great until you you tell him you're wrong.

2147
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:37,719
Speaker 1: And I'm told that he was late for that meeting.

2148
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 1: That's the day after he got in a fight at well,

2149
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:43,759
Speaker 1: two days after you got in a fight at practice. Um,

2150
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 1: you know, shortly after he was taken out of the

2151
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 1: offense by the official because some kind of equipment thing

2152
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 1: didn't have the kneepads properly or whatever. It was too.

2153
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 1: So like you going, like you start to stack these

2154
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 1: things up, and all of a sudden he shows up late.

2155
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:00,400
Speaker 1: He didn't miss the meeting. From what I'm told, he

2156
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 1: was late for a meeting. And I believe it was

2157
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 1: the Thursday whatever, the game Friday, Friday. It was a

2158
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 1: Friday game. Yeah, it was the day of the game.

2159
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 1: I think to the game day. Okay, Carolina was the

2160
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 1: first game. Those things stack up, you know, Yeah, I

2161
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 1: can't we can't rely on you. But now now if

2162
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:28,200
Speaker 1: that's if that's right, um, if that's like the you know,

2163
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 1: the reason and whatever, I would say, Well, to Mike's point,

2164
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:35,439
Speaker 1: how long is enough or does he continue to be

2165
01:47:35,439 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 1: belligerent about it? That's right? Right? And again I'm going

2166
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:41,360
Speaker 1: to fall back on if he has. I don't think

2167
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 1: his teammates are clamoring for his return. Yeah, Like, if

2168
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 1: I know that Mike is going to Fred's, you know,

2169
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 1: continue to say like, no, I don't I can't believe

2170
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 1: you're making me do this. I don't want to do it. No,

2171
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it. Make someone else do it.

2172
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, Fred, why is Mike not traveling to

2173
01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 1: the game this week? Because I know what Mike, Mike's

2174
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 1: doing to you. Yeah, yeah, do you know what I mean? Well,

2175
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe some of the players are like

2176
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 1: I don't know why he's not playing. Maybe that's sort

2177
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 1: of like a asked the coaches thing, you know, like

2178
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into it. That is one

2179
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 1: of those things. I just Mike, did you see any

2180
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:18,639
Speaker 1: of this stuff? Because I think it was I think

2181
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:22,760
Speaker 1: it was like Karen Reese Perry, that kind of triumvirate

2182
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:26,639
Speaker 1: had sort of you know, talking to some players, there's

2183
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 1: some confusion as to why he's not playing, and you know,

2184
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:32,720
Speaker 1: they think he should be a bigger part of the

2185
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 1: game plans and whatnot. And again, the way that Karen's

2186
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:40,559
Speaker 1: posing this Patricia is upset with him. Yeah. That interesting.

2187
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 1: So when you're already sort of wondering why why as

2188
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 1: my defensive coordinator running the offense, and then Patricia's the

2189
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 1: one that's sort of deemphasizing Kendrick Bourne. I could understand

2190
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 1: players saying, what are we doing? Maybe he wasn't sitting

2191
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 1: up Mike the mic do so palms in the air?

2192
01:48:57,400 --> 01:48:59,800
Speaker 1: What want he wasn't sitting up straight. Maybe in the

2193
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:04,560
Speaker 1: met too, That's that's a bugaboo too from medp Oh, Yeah,

2194
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 1: let's go to back to the phone. Zackson fall River, Hey, Zach,

2195
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:16,520
Speaker 1: as it going guys? Um? Can you guys say yes? Yeah, okay?

2196
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 1: You know, I don't see I don't think we're talking

2197
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 1: about this enough, you know. I remember Robert Craft had

2198
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:27,600
Speaker 1: made a statement saying how during the offseason that he

2199
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:33,759
Speaker 1: acknowledges that the Patriots haven't drafted well in recent years,

2200
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,720
Speaker 1: which was the reason why they had to spend so

2201
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 1: much money. And he also acknowledged in the off season

2202
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 1: that it was very upsetting to him that the Patriots

2203
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 1: talent won a playoff game a few years And I

2204
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,479
Speaker 1: would argue that the talent we have now on offense

2205
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:56,400
Speaker 1: is better than some of the talent that Brady had

2206
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 1: to work with. But he he was still winning super

2207
01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 1: Bowls that last year when we won a Super Bowl

2208
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 1: with the Rams, who did we have outside of a

2209
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 1: broken down Edelman and a broken down Growth And we

2210
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 1: were still a top ten offense that year. I mean,

2211
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 1: I just can't. I don't understand why we can't get

2212
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 1: it done with Hunter, Henry, Jonald Smith and all these

2213
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:20,120
Speaker 1: other guys we have. Yeah, see, I kind of agree

2214
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:22,800
Speaker 1: with you. I think they've got their underachieving. Yeah, they

2215
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:25,600
Speaker 1: are underachieving. Okay, So here's what I'm gonna say, Like,

2216
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 1: do you think that they had a top ten offense

2217
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,479
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen? No, okay, because they had a top

2218
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 1: top ten offense last year too. And the point if

2219
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:35,600
Speaker 1: you yeah, if you want to tell me about the

2220
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 1: stat like just like their defense was like second in

2221
01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, but we know they weren't. But the

2222
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 1: thing about that is we know because we know, but

2223
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying the last year, but last year's stats were

2224
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 1: skewed by a couple of games where they blistered some

2225
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:56,760
Speaker 1: really bad teams. You know, you have to look at that.

2226
01:50:56,760 --> 01:51:00,679
Speaker 1: That's why you know football statistics could be very deceiving,

2227
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 1: mainly because there's only you know, now, seventeen games. You know,

2228
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:08,400
Speaker 1: there's only say, like if in a baseball seas two

2229
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 1: out of seventeen makes a big difference, and you get

2230
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 1: the Jets twice, that makes That's what I'm saying, excuse you,

2231
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:16,640
Speaker 1: and they blister Jacksonville and they blistered the Jets, and

2232
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:20,240
Speaker 1: so they're you know, there's there's stats rows on offense,

2233
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:24,759
Speaker 1: but we know looking at it, especially down down the stretch,

2234
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 1: that they weren't that good. They weren't that good. I

2235
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 1: I think, you know, last year, I I stacked it

2236
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 1: up to it's match. First year, they're dumbing it down.

2237
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:40,639
Speaker 1: They're up, you know, John Smith, I think I think

2238
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 1: that these guys that they have on offense are underachieving

2239
01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. I don't know why, whether it's the

2240
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 1: coaching or MAC or whatever. I think that they're okay,

2241
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:54,640
Speaker 1: they're they're I think if you had Tom Brady with

2242
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 1: this offense, oh, I mean that's but with these guys,

2243
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 1: I gotta be very defensive of Mac here. That's not fair.

2244
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:05,000
Speaker 1: It's not fair. But I'm just saying that Tom Brady

2245
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:07,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't be complaining about the people around him. Well, he

2246
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 1: probably would be, but that was Tom Brady. No, No,

2247
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 1: he would also be excelling with the people. But I

2248
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 1: think he'd be very happy with this crew, I really do.

2249
01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 1: I think they're pretty good. I don't know how good

2250
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:19,760
Speaker 1: they are, but he would certainly be getting a hell

2251
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 1: of a lot more out of them than Mac Jones.

2252
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 1: Is that's not fair to Mac Jones. No, it isn't.

2253
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 1: It isn't. But I'm just saying, what, for whatever reason,

2254
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:29,840
Speaker 1: these guys are underachieving. I think they've got pieces on

2255
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:33,519
Speaker 1: offense to be good. I'm not saying, oh, seven good

2256
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 1: or you know, name the season or name the other team,

2257
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 1: you know, Kansas City good or Bill's good. But to

2258
01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:43,080
Speaker 1: be good? Yeah, like like, I mean, I think Paul

2259
01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 1: said they had two drives five drives a game. You know,

2260
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,599
Speaker 1: you're scoring drives, You're you're going down four times five

2261
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:51,280
Speaker 1: times a game, moving the ball down the fields, sustained.

2262
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 1: But I'm living in this world though right now. Of Like, well,

2263
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:56,680
Speaker 1: last year they had a really good offensive coordinator with

2264
01:52:56,720 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 1: an established offense that clearly had a plan, and you know,

2265
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 1: we felt like he got a lot out of Mac

2266
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:04,679
Speaker 1: as a rookie, but it still felt like the weapons

2267
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 1: weren't quite what you were hoping for. And now you

2268
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 1: know the point I made earlier, Now we don't really

2269
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 1: even have that offensive structure. So you know, now Mac

2270
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:15,760
Speaker 1: doesn't even look like he's overachieving. He looks like he's

2271
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:18,760
Speaker 1: kind of stuck in neutral right now with where he's going. So,

2272
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, can it get better? Can they figure out

2273
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 1: what they're good at and start to play into those

2274
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:26,120
Speaker 1: things and execute them? Well, I really, I really don't

2275
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 1: know right now what's gonna transpire over the you know,

2276
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:31,280
Speaker 1: the coming weeks, and I'm going to That's the thing

2277
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 1: that I keep coming back to is I think we

2278
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:38,320
Speaker 1: sometimes get a little heat because it sounds overly negative.

2279
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:40,559
Speaker 1: I can't tell you what's going to happen either, Mike.

2280
01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I'm not telling you that there's

2281
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 1: not a potential to improve. I'm pretty sure they will improve,

2282
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:50,720
Speaker 1: But I'm only telling you what has happened, and what

2283
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 1: has happened hasn't been productive. Like I don't need like

2284
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 1: I saw a game on Sunday that other people somehow

2285
01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:02,639
Speaker 1: saw like diametrically differently than I did. Like I don't

2286
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:04,840
Speaker 1: think that they were close. I don't think that they.

2287
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,120
Speaker 1: I think if Miami had a couple of plays differently,

2288
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 1: it would have been closer to forty to nothing. You know,

2289
01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:13,920
Speaker 1: like maybe not getting a penalty on fourth and three,

2290
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:16,120
Speaker 1: which was you know or whatever, the fourth down play

2291
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 1: that was very yeah, uh, Brandon Jones picking that pass

2292
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 1: off and running it back and now you get two

2293
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:26,600
Speaker 1: defensive touchdowns. You know, like there was a lot of

2294
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 1: different things that teams could go back and look and

2295
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Speaker 1: say if this, if that. We used to make fun

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Speaker 1: of those teams because the Patriots always made those one

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Speaker 1: or two plays that decided games. Now Miami made them

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Speaker 1: on Sunday and the result really wasn't a close game.

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Speaker 1: It was a game that the Patriots never even had

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Speaker 1: the ball, like yeah, and they almost like it was

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Speaker 1: almost to that point you could almost get if you

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Speaker 1: had gotten a score on that last drive and you know,

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Speaker 1: just at least make Miami have a little bit of

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Speaker 1: pressure on them and have to pick up a first

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Speaker 1: down that you know that would have been But even

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Speaker 1: then it was five minutes left. It was you know,

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Speaker 1: like the Kendrick Bourne play happen in five minutes left.

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Speaker 1: They down thirteen points like you need a miracle. That's

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Speaker 1: a miracle win if you win that game, all right,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow because we're in our in season

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Speaker 1: on the show though, tomorrow, so you guys are gonna

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Speaker 1: have to pick it up. Pick it up, all right.

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