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Speaker 2: Instant reaction on tonight's twenty three to twenty walk off

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Speaker 2: doink by the Commanders to beat Tampa an upset, But

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Speaker 2: if you had to pick one, you know this may

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Speaker 2: have been the upset. I don't think many people thought

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Speaker 2: Denver or green Bay were going to come out with wins.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little surprised, but I mean, as Jaden Daniels

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Speaker 2: the best rookie quarterback ever. I mean, he had a

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Speaker 2: little bit of turbulence in the mid season, but it's

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Speaker 2: a lot like Andrew Luck. I mean, Andrew Lock came

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Speaker 2: into the league with a terrible roster and this isn't

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Speaker 2: a great one. It's better than Andrew Lucks. But Andrew

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Speaker 2: Luck was a top ten quarterback as a rookie, intelligence, toughness, mobility,

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Speaker 2: arm Jaden's much thinner, He's not quite a rugged. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the guy finished. I think I'm right on this fifth

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter comeback this season. That's tied with Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: for the most in the NFL. I mean, it was interesting.

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Speaker 2: I guess this was my best prediction of the year.

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Speaker 2: I picked Washington to be a playoff team, and I

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Speaker 2: think that's one of my favorite things to do, is

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Speaker 2: do future bets where you try to predict. I picked

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Speaker 2: Washington and Denver were my surprise teams last year. It

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Speaker 2: was the Rams year before it was Minnesota. I have

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Speaker 2: as much fun doing that as anything. But I didn't

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Speaker 2: think Jaden Daniels would be this. I knew Cliff Kingsbury

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Speaker 2: pounded the table for him. The kid, his quickness, his smarts,

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Speaker 2: I mean in the red zone, I'm looking at this.

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Speaker 2: On fourth down tonight, his passer rating was one oh

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Speaker 2: three's that's just incredible. On the final drive, you know,

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Speaker 2: three for three, ran for a first fifty seven passing yards.

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Speaker 2: His decision making. I mean, do you know how fast

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Speaker 2: you got to be above the shoulders to do all

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Speaker 2: just kind of instinctive. Like obviously, great athletes are just

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Speaker 2: like some guys. I mean, Lebron broke into the NBA

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Speaker 2: early on shooting from the outside, but he just had

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Speaker 2: crisis in a congested red zone that, I mean, like

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Speaker 2: eight year veterans make. I just I can't tell you

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Speaker 2: how impressed I am with Jayden Daniels. And I had

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Speaker 2: said Friday on the show, I like Tampa to win.

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Speaker 2: And the only way that I thought Washington would win,

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Speaker 2: know Jade and Daniels just perform magic. Yeah he did.

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Speaker 2: What was he twenty four or thirty five and seven

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Speaker 2: yards two two? D's no picks eleven rushes eight for

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Speaker 2: you know, Vita via upfront. I mean, it's active. Todd

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Speaker 2: Bowles likes, it's aggressive. Tampa's always been a little bit

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Speaker 2: of an underrated place to play. It gets pretty rowdy

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Speaker 2: down in Tampa. Now they're on to Detroit, which will

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Speaker 2: be a real test for Washington. But I think what

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Speaker 2: you're watching this all time stuff, and you know, and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to John Middlcoff today about We've

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Speaker 2: got a really good podcast that talks about Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel, Eagles, Packers, Bill's Broncos at the end of

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Speaker 2: it twenty minutes. I think you'll be interested. John, a

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Speaker 2: native Californian, his thoughts on the wildfires and the disaster

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Speaker 2: there watching that game tonight and I thought, after that

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Speaker 2: But that's very Dan Campbell. So Dan Quinn's a very

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Speaker 2: Mike Rabele do this in New England. Very aggressive guys.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to create a culture, a culture of confidence,

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Speaker 2: you've got to really change everything. I remember when Barry

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Speaker 2: And I think, you know, Detroit a lot of belief.

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Speaker 2: dan Quinn has implemented that. That's why he's going forward

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Speaker 2: on fourth down. It's like, hey, we've got nothing to lose.

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Speaker 2: It's in Tampa. Baker Mayfield's a veteran, I got a

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Speaker 2: I love it high pressure situations. And obviously, and I

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Speaker 2: take a time. Let's reset expectations. When dan Quinn and

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Speaker 2: this kid's unbelievable. Already knows the playbook. I mean, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: You're like, and dan Quinn's been around the block, and

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Speaker 1: dan Quinn was just heaping praise on Jaden Daniels in

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Speaker 1: camp before preseason games, and you're thinking, man, this kid

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Speaker 2: And you read some of those early DC media reports

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Speaker 2: is camp. But it's not that Washington doesn't McLaurin. Terry

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Speaker 2: That's not make it. The Commanders don't have talent, but

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Speaker 2: it's it's all centered around, an aggressive coach and a

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Speaker 2: I grew up in the seventies and eighties and Washington

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Speaker 2: just don't see this. You get all the upside occasional picks,

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Speaker 2: And the line is out. The Lions are minus eight

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Speaker 2: but so was Buffalo. Over Denver, and so was Baltimore

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Speaker 2: finally got ourselves a close playoff game. I'll walk off

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Speaker 2: point and for Tampa. Hell of a year. Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 2: earned every bit of that contract. One of the more

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Speaker 2: Not as many games and lopsided games. But John Millicoff

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Speaker 2: the only way seemingly to win. The better quarterback and

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Speaker 2: today Jalen Hurts wasn't great, but Jordan Love, like he

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Speaker 3: Well, Jalen was not very good, and granted he hadn't

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Speaker 3: he wasn't good. The problem is Jordan Love was atrocious.

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Speaker 3: just had a solid offensive performance, they would have been

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Speaker 2: By the way, there's a play that happened in this

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Speaker 3: the guy. We know how great of a player is

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Speaker 3: And I thought, Brady, you know one thing with to

427
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Speaker 3: be a great running back, you don't need elite, top

428
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Speaker 3: end speed. It's not a him and Derrick Henry. You know,

429
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Speaker 3: he compared him to a It's like if you could

430
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Speaker 3: pitch and hit, because I can live with twenty yard

431
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Speaker 3: runs all day long, but at any moment him and

432
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Speaker 3: Henry could go seventy eighty yarts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there is something about Philadelphia. They do

434
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Speaker 2: things that dysfunctional organizations do and it works for them,

435
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Speaker 2: I think. And it may be just the city of Philadelphia.

436
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 2: It's such a glue city. You know. Washington has the

437
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Speaker 2: political power, LA's got the famous people, New York's got

438
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Speaker 2: the money. Boston's got a lot of history, Dallas has

439
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Speaker 2: a lot of flair.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia has kind of a small town feel for a

442
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Speaker 2: big city. Like everybody in that city, anybody in my life.

443
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Speaker 2: I've been doing this for a long time. It is

444
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Speaker 2: amazing how often I'm in an airport, on a ski slope,

445
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Speaker 2: at a restaurant anywhere that I live, and they're Eagle

446
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Speaker 2: fans and Phillies fans. They're just something about the loyalty

447
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 2: they've been, you know, they they've had so much that's

448
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: recently the Eagle has been so good now for a

449
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 2: stretch and the Phillies are very good. The Sixers are

450
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: still disappointing, but their sports teams are pretty damn good.

451
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Speaker 2: They went long stretches of just being like Chicago is

452
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Speaker 2: now or they just got beat up. There's something about Philadelphia,

453
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Speaker 2: the city like there's it's almost like the fans keep

454
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Speaker 2: you in line. You know, embiid you know fans. Fans

455
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 2: aren't gonna mess with that bullshit, Like if you don't play,

456
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,239
Speaker 2: fans can turn on you very quickly. And I don't know,

457
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Speaker 2: I just I just look at Philadelphia stars. I can

458
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Speaker 2: go back to Mike Schmidt, Ron Jaworski. It just there's

459
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Speaker 2: a toughness and a unique kind of I don't know

460
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Speaker 2: how to describe it. When I when I watched this

461
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Speaker 2: Philadelphia team, it feels like a Philadelphia team. Young stars,

462
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Speaker 2: stars in their prime, older stars, and they all just gel.

463
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Speaker 2: They all kind of get along. And I I didn't

464
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Speaker 2: think Jalen played well today. I'm not sure he's a

465
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Speaker 2: hu undred percent healthy, but I thought that game. Honestly,

466
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Speaker 2: if you could bet a football game after one series,

467
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Speaker 2: I was like, Yep, Philadelphia, I could. Green Bay was

468
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Speaker 2: out of their element. They look rattled. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is over. This game I feel I felt five

470
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Speaker 2: out ten. I felt that with Baltimore and Pittsburgh, it's like, Okay,

471
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Speaker 2: this is done. I can tell you right now Pittsburgh's

472
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Speaker 2: not ready to play. It's time to look at this

473
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Speaker 2: weekend's tastiest matchup. In this week's Sunday Night food Ball,

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Uber Eats. Okay, let's pivot to

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Speaker 2: Buffalo thirty one Denver seven. I don't think this surprised anybody.

476
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Speaker 2: A lot of the Sharps looked at some Sean Payton

477
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Speaker 2: stats historically, but I think we've both said this. Denver

478
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: lost by twenty four. I'd still rather be the Broncos

479
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Speaker 2: than the Pittsburgh Steelers. I've got a great offensive coach

480
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Speaker 2: and a quarterback who's going to be a hell of

481
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Speaker 2: a player. We'll get to Pittsburgh later. But I kind

482
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Speaker 2: of looked at this Denver lost and I thought, listen, man,

483
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Speaker 2: this was not a winnable game. This Buffalo team. Kencaid's

484
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: now been added. I think James Cook is terrific. Josh

485
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 2: Allen right now is playing as well as he's ever

486
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Speaker 2: played in his life. He's getting very, very good protection.

487
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Speaker 2: I don't see a lot of flaws with Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: Do you No. I mean, I think when the schedule

489
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Speaker 3: came out, when we found out who was playing who,

490
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 3: we were destined to get Buffalo hole hosting Baltimore, and

491
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Speaker 3: it played out there pretty seamlessly. I think Buffalo I

492
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Speaker 3: think they have more pressure on him in this upcoming

493
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Speaker 3: game than Baltimore given how well their offense James Cook

494
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Speaker 3: has changed their offense. I mean, early on in Josh's career,

495
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Speaker 3: they did not have a runner like that, and he.

496
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Speaker 2: Just smells the end zone. He feels it.

497
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Speaker 3: How about Khalil Shakir, I mean that stat they said

498
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Speaker 3: today that no one has more yards after contact beside

499
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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase than him. I mean, he has been fantastic.

500
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Speaker 3: Keyan Coleman that the Florida State rookie has really come

501
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Speaker 3: on as the season and there is a calmness to

502
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Speaker 3: Josh's game. I think both Josh and Lamar I think,

503
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: you know, for guys that are runners and make these

504
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 3: just spectacular, all time great plays are so under control.

505
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 3: It's always what Patrick has had and he had it earlier.

506
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 3: In those two guys, it always felt like Mahomes from

507
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: day one, was just completely under control. Even when chaotic situations.

508
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 3: You watch those two guys, it's like, even when chaos happens,

509
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: it's like, I don't feel like they're freaking out as

510
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 3: they're scrambling around to make a play. I mean they are.

511
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Speaker 3: They are in the peak of their powers right now.

512
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 3: And like, how does a rookie quarterback And I'm sure

513
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Speaker 3: you saw the stat about Sean Payton's record against bald coaches,

514
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: it was it John Paidon. I just think a rookie

515
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Speaker 3: quarterback on the road, they were gonna need a historic

516
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Speaker 3: defensive performance. And playing at Buffalo, I mean that place,

517
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Speaker 3: do you know? It kind of hit me today. And

518
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: there's been a lot of great games at Lambeau as well.

519
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Speaker 3: The one thing cool about the NFL is some of

520
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: these smaller cities. For as big as it's, how fun

521
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 3: does a home game at Buffalo feel in the playoffs?

522
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Speaker 3: The buzz in that place? I mean, I would imagine

523
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Speaker 3: we don't have that. We're recording this even before the

524
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Speaker 3: Sunday night game that's probably going to be a night

525
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Speaker 3: game next week. That place is going to be ripping

526
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Speaker 3: and rocking and cold, and the snow and the fans.

527
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Speaker 2: Well, one of the of the of the many reasons

528
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Speaker 2: football is king and there's about eight In the NBA,

529
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 2: there are clearly glamour cities where the stars want to play.

530
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 2: In Major League Baseball, there's about six teams that can

531
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Speaker 2: win a World Series based on payroll. Think about the

532
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: dominant teams in the NFL right now, Buffalo, Kansas City, Baltimore,

533
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Speaker 2: Green Bay. Those are four of the winningest teams. The

534
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: New York teams are in the toilet. Washington was for

535
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen years, and the one big market team

536
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Speaker 2: is Philadelphia and they've just been They're exceedingly well run,

537
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Speaker 2: and I think that's just part of the appeal. I

538
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: gotta tell you, I am such a big fan of

539
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: Kansas City and Baltimore. I can't lose this year. I

540
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Speaker 2: would love to see Lamar make a super I would

541
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: love to see Josh Allen make it. I mean, the

542
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: AFC division winners and the AFC Final four is the

543
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: same as last season, and I don't think it's gonna change.

544
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Speaker 2: I think Kansas City, Baltimore, and Buffalo are going and

545
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Speaker 2: I should say I think Houston's gonna mostly win their division. C. J.

546
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: Stroud was down this year, the O line wasn't as good.

547
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: I think the AFC. I don't think there's gonna be

548
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: a lot of change. It's gonna look like college football.

549
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: You're gonna see about four names, five names every year.

550
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: I know, you know, listen, I mean Beach and in Andy.

551
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: Their resume speaks for herself. Same with Baltimore. I do

552
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: think Buffalo's shorter. I do think we have to throw

553
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: them in the mix of just how well run they are.

554
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: Obviously quarterback led operation, but they transitioned. Everyone thought they

555
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: were cutting a bunch of guys. A lot of people

556
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 3: picked the Jets to win the division. They had a

557
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: hat and teacher game like basically in Thanksgiving, and they

558
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: have become the patriots now of that division five straight times.

559
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: They are I mean a huge part of this upcoming

560
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: game is they are the two seed. I mean, these

561
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: home games in the playoffs. We just saw the Chargers

562
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: go on the road and get smacked. It really really matters.

563
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: And obviously Baltimore had kind of a weird regular season

564
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: with some losses. Buffalo handled business and they're hosting this

565
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Speaker 3: game for a reason. And I think, you know, the

566
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Speaker 3: I don't know if much separates them and Baltimore at

567
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Speaker 3: least they have been doing it, not as long, but

568
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: in terms of like they're the two elite second tier

569
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Speaker 3: teams in the AFC. They just haven't been able to

570
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: beat Mahomes, but they're kicking everyone else's ass.

571
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Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty eight unanswered points at one point, I mean,

572
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: it was just and it was Alan to Kincaid, Alan

573
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Speaker 2: to Curtis Samuel, Alan to a running back in the

574
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Speaker 2: end zone. I mean, Josh has just become an unbelievable player.

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Speaker 3: You know.

576
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Speaker 2: I feel like Buffalo's a little Phil Mickelson and Tigers

577
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: Prime where sometimes it just and I look at it

578
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: and I think to myself, God, Now I do think

579
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: Buffalo is gonna beat Baltimore. I do I think at

580
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: home they're gonna beat them. I don't know if Kansas City,

581
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: Kansas City will take care of business. I mean, I

582
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: Kansas City is gonna beat Houston. I may be a sucker.

583
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: I think this is the year for Buffalo to get

584
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. I think this is the best

585
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: version there's there's just if they can stay healthy. There's

586
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: nothing I don't like about them. There's nothing I can't

587
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: find a flaw with the team the game. Their defense

588
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: is not great that game against the Rams when Stafford

589
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: went out and down the field. They're not a great

590
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: defensive team. But Kansas City is not a great offensive team.

591
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: And and now I do I mean, do you like

592
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: Buffalo against Baltimore?

593
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Speaker 3: I would say, no team down the stretch beside the

594
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: Chiefs who flipped a switch is playing better than Baltimore.

595
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: I mean there are. Last year they were the number

596
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: one overall seat and had the best defense since like

597
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: the Pete Carroll peak days, this offense is dramatically better

598
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: than last year because Lamar's better. They added Derrick Henry,

599
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: who somehow does not age. I mean, he's in the

600
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Speaker 3: peak of his powers running for a hundred and ninetyees.

601
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Speaker 2: What's funny is he wasn't great his first two years

602
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: in the league, and now he got better as an

603
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: old running back, which is is the opposite of what

604
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Speaker 2: happens for star running backs.

605
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Speaker 3: It's crazy. Mark Andrews is now back. Looks fantastic. Yeah. Bateman,

606
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: who they've kind of ridden out over the course of

607
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: his career, has turned into a really good player. If

608
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: say Flowers comes back, I do think guy for guy.

609
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: If we just say the quarterbacks cancel each other out.

610
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: I think Baltimore is better than Buffalo, but home field,

611
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot of Listen, this is one

612
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 3: of the best games of the year. I mean, it

613
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: doesn't get any better than this, And I would lean

614
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: slight lean Baltimore. But I'm rooting for one of these

615
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: two teams unless Andy Viach. I know all these guys.

616
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Speaker 3: I do think it would be cool. Part of philis

617
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 3: Phil never took down Tiger in a big moment. You know,

618
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: it's Kansas City just gonna kick the crap out of

619
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: Houston and then beat this team and then just be

620
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: back in the Super Bowl and then everyone's gonna pick

621
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Speaker 3: them and they're gonna win another super Bowl. Football shouldn't

622
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: be that easy. You know. It wasn't even for New England, right.

623
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Speaker 3: It never happens three three peat. Usually most of the

624
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: time you get bounced. I actually think Houston the one

625
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: thing you saw Houston Demiko. If you did a coach

626
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: draft from scratch, he'd go in the top ten. He

627
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: is an elite defensive mind. He's an elite leader.

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Speaker 1: C J.

629
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Speaker 3: Stroud finally got his twenty twenty three mojo back you.

630
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Speaker 2: Know, it's funny CJ. At home. I think he's now

631
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Speaker 2: like thirteen and five or twelve and five and one

632
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: hundred passerwaight, he actually is a much different quarterback at home.

633
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any question for sure.

634
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: Nico Collins is one of the most talented young players

635
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 3: in the league. They have two, they have one pass rusher.

636
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: They just gave a two year contract for fifty million

637
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: dollars and they guaranteed every penny and Danelle Hunter, who

638
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Speaker 3: was who was kind of working Joe Alt yesterday at

639
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Speaker 3: moments tough first matchup on Anderson is one of the

640
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Speaker 3: best players to ever played for Safe and got drafted

641
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Speaker 3: third overall. I mean they got some high, high end

642
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: guys and a real coach. Now we just saw the map.

643
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Speaker 3: One advantage for Andy is they literally just played him,

644
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 3: so they had already game planned for him three weeks ago.

645
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: They only have to watch these last couple of games.

646
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: I've been around Andy Reid, he's been in the office

647
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Speaker 3: these last two days. They're already on it. I mean,

648
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 3: this is it's a tough spot for Houston, but you

649
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: watch them, you go got it. They got If CJ

650
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: is gonna play like that they have more talent or

651
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 3: every bit. The talent is the Chargers, and they're high

652
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 3: end players are so high you think they could give

653
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: a game. Remember last year against Baltimore for a half,

654
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 3: they gave him a game. Then they ran out of juice.

655
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Speaker 3: I would imagine I haven't seen the line. Probably a

656
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: seven point spread for the Chiefs. I would guess someone.

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a steps league. I

658
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: think I went into this season saying about green Bay

659
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: they're too young, they're a year away. That bears itself

660
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: out watching today, and I think Houston the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I still think Houston needs another draft. I think they're

662
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: an inconsistent football team because they're not a team that

663
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: if they suffer injuries in certain spots. Their old line

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Speaker 2: wasn't as good this year good, so they're not a

665
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Speaker 2: super Bowl. I think green Bay and Houston are good

666
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Speaker 2: enough to win a playoff game. They're not good enough

667
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Speaker 2: to win two. Certainly not good enough to get to

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Speaker 2: a super Bowl. But you know there's there's CG.

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Speaker 3: CJ is a better play. I would I would take

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Speaker 3: CG over Love.

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Speaker 2: I would too at this point. Absolutely, that was this

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Speaker 2: I do we do great company. Let's let's go into

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Speaker 2: the Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh stuff. So I thought it was interesting.

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00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: This may have been the moment dan Orlowsky at ESPN

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Speaker 2: as the Steelers just look unprepared and no juice. I mean,

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00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: the one thing about Tomlin, he was always known as

681
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: an elite motivator, the best underdog coach in the NFL

682
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 2: statistically for a decade, they had no juice. None. It

683
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: was almost as if they weren't concentrating. Dan Orlofsky had

684
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Speaker 2: a breakdown of some tape in the first half from

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Speaker 2: the offensive line. They it was brutal, it was embarrassing,

686
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 2: you like guards pulling into each other, and the O

687
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: line has been This has been my criticism for a

688
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: lot of defensive coaches. Mike Tomlin, Pete Carroll, you know

689
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: McVeigh and Andy Reid can fix an offensive line and

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00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: an off season, and he's done it multiple times. These

691
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: defensive coaches really struggle with it. And I watched this

692
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: offensive line. It's they've drafted it. They've got some good talent.

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00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: They couldn't create a run game, but it was it

694
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: was Baltimore going into a game without Zay Flowers and

695
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: having a fifteen straight runs and still doing it. And

696
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: I think Pittsburgh's got very conservative owners. They're not big spenders.

697
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: That's always been the reputation. As you are an eagle scout,

698
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 2: Steelers always had a reputation they didn't take as many

699
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: big swing as it was draft and develop. I think

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Speaker 2: they need innovation. I would say Ben Johnson feels like

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Speaker 2: a good fit here. Do you think they have the

702
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Speaker 2: kahonas to let go of Mike Tomlin?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't. And you and I have been talking

704
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 3: this about for a year. We said it last year

705
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 3: and it doesn't even feel like they entertained it. So

706
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: I guess another year they should entertain it. I don't

707
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: expect them to, but eventually you're going to get the

708
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: line of diminishing returns where his value is going to

709
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 3: start to go down. Yeah, right and right now because

710
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 3: of think of the desperate team from the Jets to

711
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 3: the Jags to the Bears, his value is pretty high,

712
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 3: Like you could trade him for valuable draft picks. You're

713
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 3: a couple of years away from that not being the case. Like,

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Speaker 3: you can't just keep going about this because think about

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Speaker 3: this Mike Tomlin, like you said, he's a defensive guy

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Speaker 3: and known as just one of the best leaders in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. So even if we removed but if you're

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Speaker 3: Tomlin's defense attorney, like they can't fix the quarterback, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I will remove the offense. Let's just talk defense and effort. Well,

720
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Speaker 3: you're coming out against your bitter rivalry and Herbertreet now

721
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Speaker 3: are questioning have they quit on Mike Tomlin in.

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Speaker 2: The first half?

723
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Speaker 3: Have they quit? So his whole thing was like effort

724
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,959
Speaker 3: and leading the boys and the troops into battle. Well

725
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 3: that clearly went away, and their defense has been atrocious

726
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Speaker 3: down the stretch. I mean, guys, wide open. It felt

727
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: like Lamar Jackson. It was like a preseason practice. I mean,

728
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 3: it's like, what are we doing? You could have called

729
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: the game at halftime, he really could, and they went

730
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Speaker 3: with Russell Wilson. Anytime that you are celebrating that our

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Speaker 3: quarterback room only cost us a couple million dollars, it's

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Speaker 3: probably and you got rid of the guy that you

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Speaker 3: just drafted twentieth. Overall, I mean we probably saw this coming.

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Speaker 3: I mean as it got cold, Colin Russell really came

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Speaker 3: back to earth. Now, he hit a couple of big

736
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Speaker 3: plays in the second half, but the game was already out.

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Speaker 2: Of that's more Pickens than russ Why.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't you if you're Ben Johnson, And clearly he's still

739
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 3: apprehensive about Like you know, he's very worried about taking

740
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Speaker 3: a job that's gonna ruin his career. Don't blame him

741
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 3: because he sees all these other guys take jobs and

742
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 3: just derails their career. He's got a great thing going on.

743
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Speaker 3: I think he makes like five six million dollars in

744
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 3: Detroit with an offense full of Pro bowlers. Well, you

745
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,959
Speaker 3: can trade Mike Tomlin if you're Pittsburgh. You can take

746
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Speaker 3: a young coordinator, a young guy like they did with

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin and put him in a position to succeed,

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Speaker 3: and then it just gives you some life. The other

749
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Speaker 3: problem is maybe bottoming out wouldn't be the worst thing ever.

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Speaker 3: The forty nine ers this year sucked. They kind of

751
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: need some high draft picks. Why because their roster's really expensive.

752
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Speaker 3: It's actually a healthy thing. The way it played out

753
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: for him. If they get it right, winning nine to

754
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: ten games every year and just getting curb stomped in

755
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 3: the first round is that they're making no progress. You know,

756
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 3: it's impossible to get a quarterback. It's hard. You gotta hope,

757
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: cross your fingers, hope you can get a TJ. Watt

758
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: and pick twenty two. That happens once every five years.

759
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Speaker 3: So your draft is difficult, and you're just seeing a

760
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Speaker 3: team that they take a lot of flyers for character

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Speaker 3: and eventually like Antonio Brown, yeah, okay, you get a

762
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Speaker 3: Hall of Famer, and then you get George Pickens, who

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Speaker 3: it's like, yeah that guy.

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Speaker 2: Team Well, I couldn't tell you the last time Chase Claypool,

765
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you the last time they had a

766
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 2: receiver room without an attitude, Deontae Johnson. It's just it's

767
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Speaker 2: what they do. And it's funny because Tomlin doesn't get

768
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 2: those guys on defense, but it's almost as if, hey,

769
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Speaker 2: I'll let the offensive guys worry about the drama. Defensively,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't get a lot of attitude, but the dape

771
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Speaker 2: So it's again it's the lack of urgency at quarterback,

772
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Speaker 2: the lack of development offensive line. All that stuff is obvious,

773
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,479
Speaker 2: but when you see the lack of effort, it's like, Mike,

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00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: that's kind of your hallmark. That would be like, that

775
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: would be like Kyle Shanahan can't run the ball. It's like, well, dude,

776
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: that's kind of that's kind of who you are. You know,

777
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: if the run stops in San Francisco, then you got

778
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: real questions. I think it's time to make a move.

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00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: I listen, I would trade him one hundred and if

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00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: I was Mike. I understand. I've said this over and over.

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00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: Being the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, if you're

782
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 3: going to be a coach, is awesome. Like, I don't

783
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: blame him for not wanting to leave that post. But

784
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: we saw specifically with Andy Reid, he got a fresh

785
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: lease on life and it changed the course of his career.

786
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Speaker 3: Because it invigorates you, it's lights a fire under you.

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00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 3: It kind of puts the chip back on your shoulder.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw Jimmy Johnson throw out

789
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: a trade for Mike McCarthy, a Pittsburgh guy. To me,

790
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 3: if I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers. I just let Jerry resign,

791
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: Mike the Ben Johnson thing take a swing and listen.

792
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: It might not work out, but the loyalty commendable. But

793
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 3: you get to a point where it's like the loyalty

794
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 3: thing feels like it's run out. This is not where

795
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: you're You're now kind of an embarrassment. Tomins whole thing

796
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: is the standard is the standard. So the standard is

797
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: this is back to back years double did you blowouts

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Speaker 3: by the second tier of the AFC listen to this than.

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Speaker 2: You If cam Ward or Shaduere Sanders lands in Cleveland, Burrow,

800
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, Shaduur Sanders, you will have the fourth best

801
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: quarterback in the division. That is just that's a that's

802
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: a death sentence for a coach. You're just you're I

803
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 2: mean in Sefanski. With a good college quarterback, a lot

804
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: of energy, youthful, healthy, you'll keep your eye on you know.

805
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,959
Speaker 2: We just saw what bo Nix did with an offensive coach.

806
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: We saw what Sam Darnold did with Kevin O'Connell. I

807
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: just I think if you just look down the road,

808
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: this is not getting better. There is no great quarterback

809
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: on the horizon for Pittsburgh.

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00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: Well, if Joe Burrow's healthy, how often are they going

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Speaker 3: to go nine to eight? So if you played this

812
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: season over again, the Steelers are not in are not

813
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: the right the like the Bengals are in their spot right.

814
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: We saw the last game of the season when they

815
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: played it, it was nineteen to seven going into the fourth quarter. Now,

816
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 3: the thing with Cleveland, if we just let's just assume

817
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: cam Ward goes one. Yeah, I cannot imagine prime Time

818
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: allows his son to go to Cleveland. I can't. He's

819
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: already kind of hinted that, you know, he would go,

820
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: you know, Archie Manning free like I think he would

821
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: would draw a line in the stands. Though, with Deshaun's

822
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: career looking over, Shador would start immediately on a team

823
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: that has a bunch of talent. But I have a

824
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Speaker 3: hard time seeing Primetime allowing that one to have.

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Speaker 2: let's pivot to something that we saw coming. I talked

830
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: about it on my show Thursday and Friday. I thought

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Speaker 2: the Patriots was the best job because of the stability

832
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: at ownership and Drake May even Joe Milton is a backup.

833
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: The quarterback room is set, they're young, they're inexpensive. You

834
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Speaker 2: got a good owner here. I was thinking about this,

835
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Speaker 2: John about once every two or three years, somebody gets

836
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Speaker 2: a job and you know it's going to work. Andy

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00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 2: Reid the Kansas City, Jim hardbought of the Chargers. Sean

838
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: Payton to Denver, Dan Quinn to a lesser degree to

839
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Speaker 2: Washington with Cliff Kingsbury, Mike Frable to New England. He's

840
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: gonna bring up his GM buddy from Tennessee. He's gonna

841
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: get his OC this one. And then also conversely, eber

842
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 2: Fluse in Chicago, Dennis Allen to New Orleans. Some shit

843
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: doesn't sound like it's gonna work. The minute the inkstry,

844
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Speaker 2: I think Vrabel is gonna get I think this team's

845
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: gonna get good really quickly. And I'm and I'm serious,

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Speaker 2: I think they'll I think there'll be an eight. When

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Speaker 2: I predicted that Denver this year was going to be

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Speaker 2: better than people think. I think Drake may with a

849
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: run game with Rabel, I think, I think this is

850
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: a great choice. I don't see it failing.

851
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: I would say this, he also gets to take over.

852
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: You know. It turns out Gerrod Mayo, while he was

853
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 3: a high level player and a team captain, was like

854
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: the Jim tom Sula of coaches. I mean, you read

855
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 3: some of these articles, it was pretty embarrassing what was

856
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: going on there. So you take over an operation that

857
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 3: is just desperate to be led. And one thought I

858
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 3: had when I was doing the reaction videos and podcasts

859
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 3: last night, do you know who the big loser in

860
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: all this is? Like? The Bills are good and they're

861
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 3: not going anyway anywhere, But how about Miami and the Jets?

862
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 3: I mean, Miami has major question marks with the coach

863
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: and the direction and just the accountability in that franchise.

864
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 3: And I don't know if you've seen the list of

865
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 3: the Jets interviews, They've interviewed seven hundred and seventy five people.

866
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 3: It just feels like every day there's a new GM

867
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 3: or coach, Like what is going on here? So those

868
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: two franchises, to me, with Rabel going there, got no

869
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: shot got no shot. The Bills. Listen, they're way better

870
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 3: and they got Josh Allen. But I think the Miami

871
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: Dolphins and the Jets got to be like, this is

872
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: not an ideal situation for us.

873
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: Think about this. The best coaching candidate last year Jim

874
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 2: Hartbaugh went to the Chargers primarily for one reason, Justin Herbert.

875
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: And this year the best coaching candidate is Mike Rabel

876
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: primarily for one or two reasons. Takes that job justin

877
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 2: Herbert komp Drake May, big mobile, nice arm, smart kid,

878
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: doesn't you know, totally focused. I think Drake May actually

879
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: showed signs with a bad coaching staff and a pretty

880
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: weak receiving corps. Polk didn't do anything. The receiver from Washington.

881
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: I think he's got some kids developed more slowly. I

882
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 2: don't know. I look at Vrabel in New England. It

883
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: feels very much hardbought Chargers, Peyton, Denver, dan Quinn, Washington.

884
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: I think Josh McDaniels may take that job. I think

885
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: it's gonna work. They just need another back, another receiver.

886
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 2: They need juice on offense. But they have some nice

887
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 2: defensive pieces.

888
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: And I think clearly the crafts their relationship with him.

889
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: I mean, Belichick has battled disc always claimed that they

890
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: were sneaky, cheap more than it was him. Yeah at times.

891
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: And this is a guy with a huge person that

892
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: if he wants something, I do think they will acquiesce.

893
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 3: I'd forgotten about this, but he led the type. They

894
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 3: were the number one overall seed the year. Remember Tannyhill

895
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: ended up throwing three or four picks in that game

896
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 3: and the Bengals beat him. But you look back on

897
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 3: these Titans teams, You're like, how the hell did he

898
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: have them that competitive? With Ryan Tannehill, AJ Brown, Derrek Henry.

899
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: Those two guys were good, but tanny Hill was never

900
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: better than what the fifteenth best quarterback in the NFL. Well, well,

901
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 3: and some solid defensive pieces, but it's not like they

902
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: had Lawrence Taylor and Ed Reid on the squad.

903
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: And when they let AJ Brown go, Remember Mike Rabel

904
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: came to Yeah, he went to the podium and just

905
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: said yeah. I mean he didn't even hide his displeasure.

906
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: I mean he just went to the podium and said, yeah,

907
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: this sucks. Were so's It's like he knew it. That

908
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: was the end of Mike Vrabel I've text him a

909
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: couple of times. I'm not going to get in too much,

910
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: but you know this is somebody that had options. It's

911
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: like Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh was going to find I mean,

912
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: Harbaugh said, yeah, I'll go up against Sean Payton, I'll

913
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 2: go up against Andy Reid.

914
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: I don't care.

915
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: I need a quarterback in college you can win. I mean,

916
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: look at our quarterbacks now, Will Howard at Ohio State,

917
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: quinn Ewers, Riley Leonard. College football is really about the roster,

918
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: it really is. You can have a b quarterback in

919
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: the NFL.

920
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:17,479
Speaker 3: You can't.

921
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: And I think Drake May is gonna pop. I think

922
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 2: by the end of next year, mid to by Thanksgiving

923
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: and we're gonna look at Drake Man go. You know,

924
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: they found a fifteen year NFL quarterback.

925
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: I also think what makes Vrabel unique is why so

926
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 3: many of these Belichick guys have failed is all they

927
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 3: know is Bill and they just copy everything he does.

928
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 3: Vrabel took I think the best parts about Bill and

929
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 3: I saw Taylor Luwan go on a rant like Bill

930
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 3: used to like question guys in a team meeting offensive

931
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: guys about defensive stuff or what's the guy at the

932
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 3: cafeteria's name. I mean, what's who's the guy on the

933
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: picture in the hallway. He would just have these and

934
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: it was Belichick's thing, and then every guy that the McDaniels,

935
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: the Patricia, the Florest, they all tried to copy it.

936
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 3: And it doesn't work. It doesn't feel authentic. And Vrabel

937
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 3: is able to integrate I think the best parts of

938
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: the accountability, of the discipline and the detail, but also

939
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: the personality of just a guy. You know, I played

940
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: in this league. I'm a tough guy. I can relate

941
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: to you as a human being. We could. I'm probably

942
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 3: not gonna have a beer with you, but you know,

943
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 3: I'm just a guy. And I think those other guys

944
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: really struggle with that. And I think Rab will never coach.

945
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 3: You know, he's noticed about he just played for and

946
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: then he went off to coach for Urban and then

947
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 3: Bill O'Brien. So I think he's got a pretty unique

948
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: perspective there. And that's why I was so high on Dable, Right,

949
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: he had coached under Belichick, but then he went to Sabin,

950
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 3: and he went to Sean mcdermoty. He saw this of

951
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 3: other stuff, but clearly they haven't figured out the quarterback,

952
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 3: and that's just a huge advantage. I think that I

953
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: think they knew this was the higher what a month ago? Like, yeah,

954
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 3: you know when when when the Patriots released eight paragraph

955
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: statement two minutes after the final game. It's pretty clear

956
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: that thing was written not on Saturday afternoon.

957
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: So listen, the games this weekend were pretty lousy, a

958
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: lot of blowouts, ugly games. So John and I are

959
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: going to spend about twenty minutes talking about something here.

960
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: And if you're just into football and nothing more, that's fine.

961
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: But John until recently lived in California his entire life,

962
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: and I've lived here now for close to a decade.

963
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 2: And you know, over the last four or five days,

964
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: I have watched an area of Los Angeles burn to

965
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: the ground to a large extent, an area I lived

966
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: right next to and have many friends in who have

967
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: been displaced. My agents, my company has been a little displaced,

968
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: just people that mean the world to me. And so

969
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: the last couple of days have been brutal. And this

970
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 2: is not really going to be a political discussion. I

971
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 2: said this yesterday. I voted for Rick Caruso. I would

972
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: do it again. I think he's the right person for

973
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: the right time, especially going forward. But what I watched

974
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: over the last four days now, I will say this,

975
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: eighty five mile an hour winds did not allow for

976
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: choppers or planes for a day and a half to

977
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: drop water. Combined with the fact it was a hurricane

978
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: and instead of rain it had fire, this was going

979
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: to cause immense damage, regardless who was mayor and some

980
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: political decisions. But it has been first, the media in

981
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: Los Angeles has been remarkable. The local TV stations CBSNBCABC, Fox,

982
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: the quality of the photo journalism, the reporting, the helicopter pilots.

983
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: It's been better than CNN. It's been better than network television.

984
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 2: So tip of the cap to Los Angeles media. It

985
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: has been astounding. People are up all night. You can

986
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 2: turn it on two in the morning.

987
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: They're on.

988
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 2: So I want to start with that. The local media

989
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: and Los Angeles has been better than the network coverage.

990
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: It has been remarkable. It's been awe inspiring. Somebody who

991
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: was in local for you know, thirteen fourteen years. But

992
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: I wanted to start with you, John, because listen, the

993
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: fire was devastating. This was not a fire with the

994
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: winds that was going to burn down six houses. It however,

995
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: exploded to a level and it's become very political. As

996
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 2: somebody who has lived in California until recently for your

997
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 2: entire life and your family, what do you make of

998
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: the polity, the political nature of the argument, and sort

999
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 2: of your thoughts on what you've watched.

1000
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I've spent thirty five of my forty

1001
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 3: years of life in California and mainly in north of

1002
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 3: the California, a little bit on the Central Coast. But

1003
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 3: I would say this fires have been a big issue

1004
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 3: for us, you know, when I lived in the Bay Area,

1005
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 3: in Santa Rosa, in the nap Areas, and obviously Tahoe

1006
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. I do think there's an

1007
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 3: element of in these states. You know, people say over politicized.

1008
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 3: I would say the ethos of San Francisco in LA

1009
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: is very political. Yeas driven that way, and when it

1010
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 3: comes to regulation, over regulation in people that run these

1011
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 3: things that are faceless, Right, Gavin's got a face, he's

1012
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 3: the governor, but these people, a lot of these people

1013
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 3: in these environmental boards, no one knows who any of

1014
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 3: these people are. And I do think the brush thing

1015
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 3: and I saw it in Tahoe is these environmental groups

1016
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: refuse to let you clean up anything. Yes, I don't

1017
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 3: know when this began, but it's happened for a long time.

1018
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 3: And these things we know, these fires and it's dry.

1019
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 3: I've never lived in La Obviously, Santa Ana wins because

1020
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 3: I was thinking about, like, this is about the time,

1021
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 3: right when Kobe gott in the helicopter crash, And wasn't

1022
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 3: that the fog and the wind and you guys get

1023
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 3: this weather that it's just very difficult in those hills.

1024
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 3: It's hard.

1025
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: It's crazy. I was gonna. I lived in Brentwood for

1026
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: a while. The reason I didn't live deep into Palisades

1027
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 2: was access. I always thought if I had an accident

1028
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: or there was a fire, nobody could get to me.

1029
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: You're up these small, windy canyon roads. And I always

1030
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: told Anna, I'm like, this is I age. I think

1031
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: about stuff, you know, well, getting into an accident, get

1032
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: having a heart attack, It's like who could get to me?

1033
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: And Lake Tahoe is a lot like that. And when

1034
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 3: they have those fires a couple of years ago, everyone

1035
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 3: was sitting ducks because you got one lane roads, it's

1036
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 3: windy roads. You can't go that fast. But to me,

1037
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 3: the element and listen, I come from generation of farmers

1038
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 3: that deal with these environmental groups for different things. They're very,

1039
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 3: very tough to deal with. And I do think I

1040
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: can't speak to like, you know, the winds in northern

1041
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: California are nowhere near eighty. I've never been a hardmunt

1042
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 3: our wins either. I do know that these brushes, it's

1043
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: just like a sitting fire zone that it is dry.

1044
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: So and I just saw Gavin hit an executive order

1045
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 3: we got to start cleaning the brushes. People have been

1046
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 3: saying this for a long time. Yeah, And I can't

1047
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: speak to the hydrations. Clearly they were empty. And we

1048
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 3: got Maria, one of our best friends as a San

1049
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 3: Francisco fireman. He's down there and he's been there now

1050
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 3: for a week and it'll be there for another two weeks.

1051
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 3: He's sending us videos. I mean that video of the

1052
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 3: stretch of street where the cars that uh yeah, basically

1053
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 3: the tractor is moving the cars out. He drove it's

1054
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 3: it's it's like something you would see in a movie.

1055
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 3: When he sent the video to I mean, it's crazy.

1056
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: Obviously these people they were deadlocked and just got out

1057
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 3: of their car and the police told him start running.

1058
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, that's true.

1059
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: Trump said it two years ago. He talked about that

1060
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: brush issue two years ago.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 2: I have always been moderate left leaning, but there is

1063
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: no question the kind of left leaning das in Seattle, Portland,

1064
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: San Francisco, Los Angeles. A lot of these people are

1065
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 2: getting voted out. They're just they don't you don't have

1066
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: to change laws when you don't adhere to laws.

1067
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 3: California, California turned on them right Prop thirty six seventy

1068
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 3: almost seventy five percent of people voted against it when

1069
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 3: Gavin was the opposite. So it's clear that people in

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00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 3: California are tired of some of this. I grew up

1071
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 3: in Davis, California, which is like Berkeley Light. Oh, I know,

1072
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 3: it's gotten much more liberal. I would say since I

1073
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: left twenty years ago, when I was probably in junior

1074
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 3: higher and high school. We built an overpass to connect

1075
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 3: part of Davis's over Highway eighty and they couldn't build

1076
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 3: it until there were toads, And to keep the toads alive,

1077
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 3: they had to build them a toad tunnel, which I mean,

1078
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 3: this is the late nineties, at the time, it costs

1079
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 3: like one hundred thousand dollars, which was a lot of money.

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00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: And I had friends in construction whenever they tried to

1081
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 3: build something, they'd find the burrowing owls. And you're constantly

1082
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 3: battling this stuff in California that you're just not battling

1083
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 3: in these other and they and when anything goes wrong,

1084
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 3: they're never anywhere to be seen. It's like, if something

1085
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 3: goes wrong on our podcast. From my podcast, it's pretty

1086
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 3: clear it's one of three people that screwed something up.

1087
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 3: Everyone in the in the business world is responsible. In

1088
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 3: a company, it's pretty clear who. But in the government

1089
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 3: in California specifically, there were all these faceless people and

1090
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 3: I loved it. I come from generations of people that

1091
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 3: lived there, and my family still lives there. And I

1092
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 3: left because I was like, this is my business where

1093
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 3: I wanted to raise my children. I'm like, I don't

1094
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 3: vibe with all this stuff. And it's no and you

1095
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 3: see these people like do you think And I don't know.

1096
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 3: I haven't spent time down there, but a lot of

1097
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 3: people don't believe that they're gonna be able to rebuild

1098
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 3: on the P eight because of the groups. They won't

1099
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 3: allow it to happen. It's cores.

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00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: Here's the other thing. Who wants to rebuild in an

1101
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: area where every house is being rebuilt. I mean, you're

1102
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: going to have four hundred houses connected. I don't want

1103
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: to raise my kids around construction sites. It's dangerous. Tractors,

1104
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: you know, all these gigantic utility vehicles like listen, I

1105
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: and it it's my wife doesn't like. My wife's not

1106
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: a huge fan of Los Angeles. So I think I've

1107
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: talked to you about this. I don't know if the

1108
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: audience knows this is I am moving some operations to Chicago.

1109
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: We purchased a house in Chicago, and I love Chicago.

1110
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't dislike LA but I you know,

1111
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: and and I had talked about this. I remember seeing

1112
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: a story about two years ago in the La Times

1113
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: where they'd spent twenty four billion dollars on the homeless

1114
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: problem and it got worse. And I remember when I

1115
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 2: lived up near Palisades and my wife had a couple

1116
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: instances where an aggressive person, you know, at a coffee

1117
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: place or a pharmacy like, approached her and she was

1118
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 2: just like, I'm not paying this for a house in

1119
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: this zip code and dealing with this shit. And it's like,

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00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 2: you know, when my my sister, or my wife, or

1121
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: the women in my life, my daughter feel less safe,

1122
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 2: and so you know, it's I don't like people politicizing

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00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 2: eighty mile an hour wins, but I think the points

1124
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: you make are points I hear from all my friends,

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Speaker 2: and I think.

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00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 3: Because we know this is coming at this point now,

1127
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 3: it's been happening for a long period of time, so

1128
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 3: to have some proactive measures. There are going to be

1129
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 3: times when something is going one hundred miles an hour.

1130
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 3: If something does life, there is no stopping that. I

1131
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 3: have every firefighter in the world, there is no slowing

1132
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 3: that down. But there is ways to lessen the ability

1133
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 3: for that to get going right. And I do think

1134
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 3: the brush thing. And again, anything Donald says, like the

1135
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 3: comment about the fish, everyone's like, oh, he's crazy. This

1136
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 3: is stuff people in California, especially in the business world,

1137
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 3: constantly make fun of about we got to take care

1138
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 3: of this. And I'm pro animals, but it is it

1139
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 3: is over the top again with faceless people and faceless

1140
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 3: groups that when it does come out, I say, oh,

1141
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 3: the average salary in this group is four hundred and

1142
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 3: seventy five thousand dollars, and that's it's just become to me.

1143
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 3: And part of the reason I liked Arizona is there

1144
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: was a wild, wild West and up and coming vibe

1145
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 3: to it in California. You know, my grandparents moved there

1146
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: in the forties or late forties after World War Two,

1147
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 3: and for a long period of time when it really

1148
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 3: took off, it had that vibe from Hollywood to the

1149
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 3: Central Valley, to farming to San Francisco with Silicon Valley.

1150
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 3: And I would say over these last ten to fifteen years,

1151
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 3: the overregulation of everything and just it's got I mean,

1152
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 3: it's taken on a life of its own. And I

1153
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 3: think this la thing has impacted a lot of people

1154
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 3: that have been very, very loyal Democrats that you see

1155
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 3: are really taken back by no one cares about me,

1156
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 3: No one gives a shit. And I'm paying I'm paying

1157
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 3: over fifty percent, so the government is the majority shareholder

1158
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 3: in my own income and they don't even care. It's crazy.

1159
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I listen, I hear this. The two people

1160
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: that I vacation with regularly are moderate to leaning right,

1161
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: really really good people, philanthropic, great dads, great husbands, just

1162
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: really good dudes. And they're in my age, so my

1163
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: wife and I travel with them, and believe me, I

1164
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: hear this constantly about the regulations and how difficult it is.

1165
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, some of the stuff infuriates

1166
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 2: me because now anybody can say anything but Trump winning

1167
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: a second term and people the first time there was

1168
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: a lot of outrage, there wasn't a lot of outrage

1169
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: this time. I think there's a lot of Democrats who

1170
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 2: were very quietly accepting the fact that their party has

1171
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: lost its way. And maybe you find Trump crass, maybe

1172
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: even repugnant, but he's kind of a bottom line economy,

1173
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 2: border crime guy, and I think that's really appealing to people,

1174
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 2: especially when they're in crisis COVID wildfires. People want answers,

1175
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 2: and they're not really interested in being you know, they're

1176
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: not really interested in bureaucratic answers and safe answers. They

1177
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: want definitive, hard, uncomfortable questions and answers. And I think

1178
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 2: that's what Trump provides. And I was really taken back

1179
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: by when he won the election. There was a resignation

1180
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 2: by the left. You know what, we ran a poor

1181
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: campaign and he connects with more people. And I think

1182
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: listening and watching what's being said during this it is

1183
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 2: I sit here and I look at America and I think,

1184
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: you know, I think you and I both were very

1185
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 2: lucky people. But there's also a reason in this country

1186
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 2: that football is so damn popular. Players play hurt, they

1187
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: play in crappy weather, there's no load management, they don't

1188
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 2: complain about games, they bust their ass, They treat the

1189
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Speaker 2: fans with respect. I think there was a there was

1190
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: a in that COVID space. There was a time in

1191
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: this country where people felt like they couldn't they had

1192
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: to walk on eggshells on social media, at parties, in

1193
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 2: public with what they said. And I think people in

1194
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: this country are over it.

1195
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would be one of those people.

1196
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 3: It's why California, everything that happened to the Bay Area

1197
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 3: during COVID, me and them did not see eye eye.

1198
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 3: And I was coming to Arizona a lot. I'm talking

1199
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Speaker 3: in like May of twenty twenty, and it was completely

1200
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 3: normal relative to twenty twenty, and I kept thinking, we're

1201
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 3: all breathing the same air. What is going on here?

1202
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 3: And like you said about the costs of living I

1203
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 3: had a good buddy a couple of years ago, by

1204
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 3: I mean just a complete tear down shithole in a

1205
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 3: really nice area in the East Bay for well over

1206
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 3: three million dollars, and I was like, I'm not I

1207
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 3: don't even this is crazy, And I just moved my

1208
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 3: life and I came to a place that I've seen

1209
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 3: is just completely different. I can't tell you how many

1210
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 3: people that guys I played golf with, or people I've

1211
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 3: met that are California transplants who were just I didn't

1212
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 3: want to raise my children in that environment. I couldn't

1213
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 3: do the regulations. It was healthier for my business to

1214
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 3: come here. And overall, I think, you know, people are

1215
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 3: tired of being lectured constantly, and it's one thing when

1216
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 3: something crazy happens to like, okay, everyone calmed down when

1217
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 3: you just never let off the gas pedal on the lecturing.

1218
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 3: And it cost me seven percent to buy an overpriced house.

1219
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 3: I go into the store and I get three items

1220
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:09,919
Speaker 3: and it cost me one hundred dollars. I just don't

1221
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,919
Speaker 3: want to hear it. Yeah, most human beings, I would say,

1222
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 3: the overwhelming majority of human beings all have the same needs.

1223
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 3: They just want to live somewhere safe. They want their

1224
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 3: kids to be safe and have a place to go

1225
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 3: to school, and have good friends and just have a

1226
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 3: pretty peaceful life. And I think we jump the shark

1227
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 3: on constantly screaming at everybody about the moral outrage. People

1228
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 3: are over it because most people wherever you go, most

1229
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 3: of my life, I mean, I'm forty years old, up

1230
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 3: until the last decade of Democrats Republic, people just got along.

1231
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 3: You just say, yeah, have these friends, my family had

1232
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 3: these friends. We all and it's just everyone just and

1233
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 3: this becomes so polarizing. But then it got and I

1234
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 3: think this has obviously hurt so many people in like

1235
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 3: the political media, Like I just don't scream at me.

1236
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 3: I don't care. I don't I think what I think,

1237
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 3: I'm not going to change for you. And I think

1238
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 3: it's been very difficult for people with the lecturing of

1239
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 3: just the average income in America is like sixty grand,

1240
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 3: Like it is very expensive to live in all these places. Yeah,

1241
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 3: the port is trying to get by on a daily, weekly,

1242
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 3: monthly basis to live life. Life's not that complicated. I

1243
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 3: think we over complicate some stuff, but I do understand,

1244
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 3: like this is a traumatic event right with the palisades,

1245
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 3: with the money that's gonna be involved, it's gonna get

1246
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 3: very like, it's gonna get very hairy, right, the no

1247
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 3: insurance California's gonna have to step in. It's it's gonna

1248
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 3: be it's gonna get way uglier. I mean, it's it's

1249
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 3: kind of crazy that, at least so far, I think

1250
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 3: the numbers under twenty people have died, given the given

1251
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 3: the ferocity of these fires, which obviously is a lot,

1252
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 3: but I mean relative to what you see, it's crazy

1253
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 3: that it's the number is only that high. But the

1254
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 3: rebuild the people, I think it's gonna be very eye

1255
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 3: opening experience for a lot of people that, let's face it,

1256
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 3: live a pretty, you know, a great I mean, these

1257
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 3: are pretty some of these areas. You know, Pacific Palisade

1258
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 3: is way better than me. But when the average price

1259
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 3: is five to thirty million dollars. But I don't know

1260
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 3: if you saw Steve Kerr. I think we talked so

1261
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 3: much about these celebrities and these people worth a lot

1262
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 3: of money. Steve Kerr is like my mom, my parents

1263
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 3: bought the house in nineteen sixty nine and whatever, I

1264
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 3: forget the props like Prop thirteen, whatever the year is,

1265
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 3: seventy nine or eighty five or whatever. These people haven't

1266
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 3: been paying updated property tax. That's the only way they

1267
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 3: could afford to live.

1268
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's there's a feeling, you know that

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, in these areas Beverly Hills, Palisades, Manhattan

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Speaker 2: Beach where I used to live. I used to live

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Speaker 2: next to a fireman and a school teacher and they

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Speaker 2: bought their homes thirty five years ago. Is that? And

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Speaker 2: I also think there is a feeling that Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: is all crazy left. Beverly Hills voted for Trump, I

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Speaker 2: believe twice. And the truth is San Francisco and Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles proper are left leaning. But I think people don't

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Speaker 2: realize outside of the state, when you get out of

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Speaker 2: LA and San Francisco proper, it's very moderate in this state.

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Speaker 2: It's just it can get looney Tunes left up in

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Speaker 2: San Francisco and certainly in like Hollywood. But I have

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Speaker 2: a pretty wide group of friends. Nobody's far left, nobody's

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Speaker 2: far right, but there's a lot more centrist in this area.

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Speaker 2: And the outrage at the politicians. Remember Palisades is one

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Speaker 2: of the bluest areas of LA. It's it is agents,

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Speaker 2: it is actors, it is celebrities, it leans. It's not

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Speaker 2: Hollywood West Hollywood blue, but it's blue. And they are pissed.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if it will create a seismic

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Speaker 2: shift in the political landscape. But I mean, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be shocked if if this Karen Bass stuff the mayor,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked. I think this thing may unravel quickly. Listen.

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Speaker 3: I don't see her having any shot with the amount

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Speaker 3: of I mean the toll of obviously the homes. When

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Speaker 3: you talk about the financial and most importantly whether you're

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Speaker 3: worth five hundred million dollars or five hundred dollars total,

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Speaker 3: where you live is probably your most personal thing. It's

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Speaker 3: where your family lays their head every night. It's a

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Speaker 3: very emotional thing to lose your home and then feel

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Speaker 3: like no one gives a shit and kind of let

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Speaker 3: didn't help you out to begin with and didn't put

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Speaker 3: you in a position to save it, right, And look

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Speaker 3: at Caruso, didn't he save the area his own whatever

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Speaker 3: it is.

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Speaker 2: Rick Caruso is a legendary builder in southern California. He's

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Speaker 2: one of the richest people in southern California. I also

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Speaker 2: he's a friend. He's one of the nicest, most gracious,

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Speaker 2: genuine people I've ever met. I mean Rick Caruso. I

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Speaker 2: could tell you stories for fifteen minutes about Rick Caruso,

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Speaker 2: how kind he's been to me, and how thoughtful. I

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Speaker 2: thought he was the choice. I think he's the choice now.

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Speaker 2: And that's not even a political statement, that's a common

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Speaker 2: sense statement. He's a builder, he'll get it done, he'll

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Speaker 2: zip through regular relations. But he was an obvious choice

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Speaker 2: I thought the first time. But you know, here's a

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Speaker 2: guy that had been a Republican, he's a rich male

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. That's a hard ask, and you know

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Speaker 2: he lost a close race. But listen at this point,

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Speaker 2: if you don't see the value of Rick Caruso, I

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Speaker 2: can't help you because we.

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Speaker 3: Need amplemented tomorrow morning at seven am and say Rick,

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Speaker 3: fix it, help out. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: John Middlecoff. I don't even think that was a political discussion.

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Speaker 2: I really don't.

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Speaker 3: It's a life discussion. I mean, city burned down the

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Speaker 3: volume