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Speaker 2: way tire buy it should be, Richie, here we are,

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Speaker 2: we got NFL football. We're gonna be talking plenty of

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Speaker 2: over the next couple of hours. I gotta say something

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Speaker 2: right at the top, rich Yeah, I'm going to concede

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Speaker 2: the fact that I am enjoying these Olympic Games more

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Speaker 2: than I thought I was going to. I came in

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Speaker 2: with a little bit of a distorted view, and I

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Speaker 2: still have some problems with the Olympics, sort of expanding

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Speaker 2: the menu a little bit too much for my taste,

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Speaker 2: you know, just way too many events, way too many sports.

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Speaker 2: I'm sort of a meat and potatoes guy when it

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Speaker 2: comes to the Olympics. He with track and field and

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Speaker 2: swimming and a few other sports. But I think the

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Speaker 2: coverage has been great, and I and the in the

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Speaker 2: Scotty Scheffler story. Did you see him on the podium today?

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Speaker 1: Did you see this? Right?

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Speaker 2: So this was yesterday. We were talking a little bit

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Speaker 2: about golf, and you know, I've been, you know, harping

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Speaker 2: on the idea that for golf or basketball or tennis,

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is not really your spotlight. In other words,

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Speaker 2: your career is not defined by what you do in

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Speaker 2: the Olympic Games. And yesterday Xanderschoffley went into the final round,

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Speaker 2: which was today, uh, tied for the lead with John Rohm. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And so we were talking about if Xander Schoffle wins

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Speaker 2: the gold medal, having already won two majors, does he

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Speaker 2: sort of take away player of the Year honors from

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Speaker 2: Scotty Scheffler, who obviously has been incredibly dominant, obviously won

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Speaker 2: the Masters as well. And I said, it's hard to ignore, right,

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Speaker 2: And then Scott Scheffer goes out and shoots a sixty

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Speaker 2: two today sixty two, and he wins, and he was

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Speaker 2: up on the podium. Now, Scotty Scheffler is one that

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Speaker 2: gets very emotional. It's not unprecedent. The Ryder Cup, he cried, Masters,

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Speaker 2: he cried. But Richie got to see this. I mean

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Speaker 2: it was coming toward the end of the anthem and

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Speaker 2: he is sobby.

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Speaker 1: Oh you know what I did see?

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Speaker 3: I thought you meant the podium like postgame press conference.

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Speaker 3: I watched when they were playing the anthem. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: he just falls to pieces, just.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely fell to pieces. And that I love that. I

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Speaker 2: mean same I am when it comes to my pride

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Speaker 2: it was phenomenal. And now when you think about it,

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Speaker 2: and by the way, Novak Djokovic at age thirty seven,

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Speaker 2: won his first gold medal today. So for guys that

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Speaker 2: have made their mark in their biggest events in their sport,

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Speaker 2: the Majors, the Grand Slam, adding an Olympic gold medal,

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Speaker 2: it's like the cherry on top and I get it.

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Speaker 2: And it's the same thing with you know, Lebron James

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Speaker 2: winning a gold medal or a Michael Jordan. You've proven yourself,

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Speaker 2: you win NBA Championships, MVPs, all that stuff just add

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Speaker 2: a little touch to your you know, resume. By winning

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Speaker 2: that gold medal, that's a pretty good thing.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 3: I think that Lebron James has a checklist that's probably

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Speaker 3: and saying, all right, what are some of these reasonable

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Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, some.

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Speaker 3: Of these goals are goals he's achieved in the past,

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Speaker 3: I understand that, right everybody's been in a situation where

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Speaker 3: be a mental check where you say to yourself, Okay,

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Speaker 3: doing I think. I think obviously one of those major

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Speaker 3: I would guess that that's almost eminent at this point,

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Speaker 1: It's going to be.

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Speaker 3: Interesting to see his reaction when Team USA or if

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Speaker 3: Team USA wins gold, because I'm sure it's going to

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Speaker 3: be another touching moment on the podium.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's wildly popular, the Olympics every four years,

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Speaker 2: So it's it's been great to watch. I still again,

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Speaker 2: these relay goals. Right, they've added now mixed relays in

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Speaker 2: but we never saw the Tokyo Games. Do we have

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Speaker 2: any recall? Rich and you and I were doing a

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Speaker 3: And here's the reason why. And I think this is

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Speaker 1: It was so completely stony.

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Speaker 2: We were doing our show to get that, we weren't

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Speaker 3: And also, again, like you said, time zones matter, like

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Speaker 3: just not going to get a lot of people out

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's just not happening now. Don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 3: There's an enormous Japanese and South Korean viewership base, and

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Speaker 1: But it did not resonate here.

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Speaker 3: It did not do what I think maybe network executives

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Speaker 3: Tokyo Olympics. I think it kind of fell flat because

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Speaker 3: but many of the people did because they wanted to

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Speaker 2: Well, of course I saw one person that was fully

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Speaker 4: I do agree with you on Tokyo.

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Speaker 5: It is hard, and I think that'll be a bit

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Speaker 5: absolutely disgusting and very hard to get as far as

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Speaker 5: And that's Scott Hansen and Andrew Siciliano on there basically

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Speaker 5: and it's a phenomenal way to watch this.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I think you're right.

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Speaker 5: Like I was hesitant about getting Peacock when this first

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Speaker 5: this is fine. Yeah, I'm I'm all in just because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well again, we got badminton and we got this

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I know I think the USA needs a

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Speaker 5: field Rich. You would be great at team handball, that

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Speaker 5: is I just I it looks like.

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Speaker 3: It looks like a sport that would actually be very

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Speaker 2: Here about team handball, please explain do you have to dribble?

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Speaker 2: Is there an area you have to dribble? There's one

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Speaker 2: But the idea do you have to dribble? Because sometimes

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Speaker 2: they do, sometimes they don't dribbles. Look at that that

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Speaker 2: guy right there, no dribble, he's traveling that Arizona where

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Speaker 5: It's every so many steps, I think listen. I had

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Speaker 5: to handball. He was really excited to explain the rules

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Speaker 5: is traveling in handball, so there is only so many

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Speaker 5: just saying, like, listen, the women just took home bronze

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Speaker 1: It right now. I know that change is inevitable. We change.

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Speaker 3: Like that was the whole point. If we have less returns,

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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of times you'll see on a

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Speaker 1: Well, and so if.

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Speaker 2: You moved it back a little bit where that you know,

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Speaker 1: No, it just it.

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Speaker 3: But when you had a forty yard return, when you

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Speaker 1: You could still have returns for touchdowns. You could still

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Speaker 2: And it's not gonna look the same Rich because because

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Speaker 2: going to be the same at all. So I don't know,

437
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Speaker 2: we'll see where they go. I know both teams practice

438
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: with a holder. That was the other crazy thing, Like

439
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 2: in case there's whether you have a holder, but they

440
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 2: got to run immediately off the field. It's like what

441
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Speaker 2: are we doing here?

442
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Speaker 3: I don't get it's Steve look, and like I said,

443
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Speaker 3: I'll reserve my final judgment as I'm sure a measured

444
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 3: person like yourself will do as well for the end

445
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 3: of the season. But at first glimpse, it just doesn't

446
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 3: feel like a football play yet. And maybe it'll take time.

447
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 3: You know, maybe in five more years from now, if

448
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Speaker 3: they stick with this, or ten more years from now,

449
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 3: we'll see some of the amazing benefits and well we'll

450
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 3: see coaches exploit, you know, the the return team loopholes,

451
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 3: or you know, we'll see interesting defensive or or kicking

452
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Speaker 3: team formations to to ensnare returners better.

453
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

454
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Speaker 3: I mean, maybe there'll be a way that this will become,

455
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 3: or maybe they'll tinker with this a little bit more

456
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Speaker 3: and they'll find a way to make it more palatable.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, But as it stands right now, I'm

458
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Speaker 3: with you, man, Like I just feel like football is

459
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Speaker 3: a violent game, and you know, there there's fun in

460
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Speaker 3: taking risks, and everybody knows this feeling. When you were

461
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Speaker 3: a kid and you had a brand new bike at

462
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Speaker 3: Christmas time, you didn't want to have your mom be like, hey,

463
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Speaker 3: but make sure you put on your knee pads and

464
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Speaker 3: your elbow pads and your risk guards, and you know,

465
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Speaker 3: your fingerless leather gloves and and put your helmet on it.

466
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Speaker 1: And if you're gonna go, if you're gonna go out there, you're.

467
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Speaker 3: Only allowed on the sidewalk, and I have to be

468
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Speaker 3: out there while you're riding your bike.

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Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god, this is so lame. Risk

470
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Speaker 1: taking is fun.

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Speaker 3: Like. It's a part of the reason why people are

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Speaker 3: attracted to violent sports in the first place, boxing, UFC

473
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Speaker 3: or mixed martial arts, in general, football, it's because we NASCAR,

474
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Speaker 3: stock car racing, any type of auto racing.

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Speaker 1: There is a part of the danger.

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Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, there's a tremendous amount of skill

477
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Speaker 3: with all those things, but there's a part of the danger.

478
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Speaker 1: That attracts us to it.

479
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Speaker 3: And if you start putting all these bumper pads on

480
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Speaker 3: all the hard edges in the corners, eventually people are

481
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Speaker 3: gonna be turned off to it, and they're gonna say,

482
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Speaker 3: I'll find something that actually seems and feels dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. Speaking of lack of danger,

484
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Speaker 2: if you weren't paying attention to the kickoff rule change

485
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Speaker 2: in the NFL. You couldn't miss the endless commercials for

486
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Speaker 2: NFL flag football. Oh yeah, they had them one after another.

487
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Speaker 2: NFL flag football, NFL flag football. Get used to the future, folks. Wow, Okay,

488
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Speaker 2: find out what's trending right now. Someone that never plays

489
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Speaker 2: at safe lives life on the edge. Yeah, it always

490
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Speaker 2: seems to come out on the right side.

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Speaker 9: I don't know how.

492
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Speaker 2: Manci Belaga's right here.

493
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Speaker 9: Today, you know here I am.

494
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Speaker 10: I do like to live dangerously, and we do. I

495
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Speaker 10: agree with rich It's like we we like people taking

496
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Speaker 10: risk when it comes to dangerous things, especially like when

497
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Speaker 10: it's something that you don't want to do, Like I

498
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Speaker 10: don't want to get tackled by Aaron.

499
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Speaker 9: Donald, No, but I'd like to watch him do.

500
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Speaker 10: It, like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't know anyone that has ever played

502
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Speaker 2: at the NFL level that hasn't understood the risk of

503
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Speaker 2: playing in the NFL. Right, I don't think there's ever

504
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Speaker 2: been a player who walked on an NFL field that

505
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Speaker 2: didn't understand there was a certain.

506
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Speaker 9: Level of risk of high risk. R Right, there's risk,

507
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Speaker 9: you know you you mean I could get her yeah.

508
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no one has ever walked on the NFL field

509
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Speaker 2: that didn't already know that.

510
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Speaker 10: Well in the totally one hundred percent. And we are

511
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Speaker 10: getting closer to the start of the NFL season. We

512
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Speaker 10: do have some preseason games to get through first, and

513
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Speaker 10: no surprise, but Commander's head coach Dan Quinn did say

514
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Speaker 10: that their number two overall pick, Jayden Daniels, will play

515
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Speaker 10: in their first preseason game against the Jets, So not

516
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Speaker 10: a big surprise there. But how about this in college sports,

517
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Speaker 10: Michigan head coach Sharon Moore could face a show cause

518
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Speaker 10: penalty and a suspension for his involvement in the Michigan

519
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Speaker 10: signs stealing scandal.

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Speaker 9: So yesp had.

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Speaker 10: Reports at the NCAA's Notice of Allegations draft, which is

522
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Speaker 10: subject to change allegs. More, deleted a thread of fifty

523
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Speaker 10: two messages with former Michigan staffer Connor Stallions in October

524
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Speaker 10: of twenty twenty three, also on the day that the

525
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Speaker 10: reports were first broken that he was maybe sneaking around.

526
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Speaker 9: See do you think.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason that Jim Harbaugh couldn't wait to get

528
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Speaker 2: out of Michigan?

529
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Speaker 7: Right?

530
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Speaker 2: This is a repeat of the Pete Carroll situation with UFC. Oh, yeah,

531
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Speaker 2: the hammer is about to fall, and he high tailed

532
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Speaker 2: it out of there to the NFL and Jim Harbboz

533
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Speaker 2: said the same, Yeah, he's I'm.

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Speaker 10: Gonna get out of here real quick, real quick. So

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Speaker 10: that's still going. The Olympics are still going. Scotti Scheffler

536
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 10: won the Golden men's golf and in nineteen under par

537
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Speaker 10: overall Tommy Fleetwood one shot back ended with the silver medal.

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Speaker 9: Silver medal he Dekey Matsuyama got the bronze.

539
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 10: Now, in women's basketball, they defeated Germany eighty seven to

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Speaker 10: sixty eight.

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Speaker 9: In pool play.

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Speaker 10: There now three and zero, but US men's three on

543
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Speaker 10: three has been eliminated from the Olympics after going two

544
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Speaker 10: to five in pool play.

545
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Speaker 9: In swimming, Bobby Fink goes back to back to win

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Speaker 9: gold for Team.

547
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Speaker 10: USA, breaking a record in the men's fifteen hundred. USA

548
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Speaker 10: also just won the gold in the women's four by

549
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Speaker 10: one hundred medley relay, also set a world record. American

550
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Speaker 10: Kristin Faukner won the gold medal in women's cycling road race.

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Speaker 10: US women's volleyballs sift France to finish group play two

552
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Speaker 10: one they're advancing to the quarterfinals. Tennis, and Novak Djokovic

553
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 10: defeated Carlos Alcaraz in straight sets, but both of them

554
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Speaker 10: in a tie break.

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Speaker 9: It went to the end.

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Speaker 10: First gold medal at the age of thirty seven, So

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Speaker 10: he becomes a fifth athlete to complete a Golden Slam,

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Speaker 10: four majors and a gold medal.

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Speaker 9: Serena Williams Rafae Alma bal.

560
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Speaker 10: Andre Agassi, did I say that right, Agacy, thank you?

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Speaker 10: And Stefie Graff, now he joins.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good company.

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Speaker 10: That is pretty good at the age of thirty seven,

564
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Speaker 10: Like that's what's amazing. We also got baseball going on, guys.

565
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Speaker 10: The Giants have just extended their lead over the Reds.

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Speaker 9: Eight to two, top of the eighth inning.

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Speaker 10: Pirates have extended their lead over the Diamondbacks four zero,

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Speaker 10: top of the fourth. The Marlins and the Braves are

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Speaker 10: scoreless in the fourth inning. Nationals up on the Brewers

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Speaker 10: one zero, top of the fifth. The Blue Jays are

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Speaker 10: beating the Yankees in the bronx to zero bottom of

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Speaker 10: the third, but the Yankees do have a man on

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Speaker 10: second and third.

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Speaker 9: They are down to their final out of the inning.

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Speaker 10: The Orioles are beating the Guardians three one bottom of

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Speaker 10: the third. Tigers up on the Royals one zero, bottom

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Speaker 10: of the fourth. Will the White Sox lose twenty in

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Speaker 10: a row? Maybe there's scoreless right now against the Twins.

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Speaker 10: Bottom of the first inning, raised an Astro, scoreless, they're about.

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Speaker 9: To start the second inning. Back to you, guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a lot of baseball news we're gonna

582
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Speaker 2: get to in our final hour with John Paul Morosi.

583
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Speaker 2: We got some huge baseball stories we're gonna get to,

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Speaker 2: all right, Monzi great stuff. By the way, Rich, Denise

585
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Speaker 2: did make Monzi some lemon cookies.

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Speaker 10: They are just like there's cracking them, you know what

587
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Speaker 10: I'm saying, Yes, there's crack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: She decided to do a little baking. She's been very busy,

591
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Speaker 2: but she did some baking last night. And they're so

592
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Speaker 2: good old box together because Monzie brings the breakfast in

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Speaker 2: Rich I do so.

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Speaker 1: She often, I mean often, if not every time.

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Speaker 2: Every time, So all right, Wenzie. We'll check in with

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Speaker 2: you a little bit later on Fox Sports Sunday, Steve

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Speaker 2: Hartman Rich Ornberger with you. I don't know if you

598
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Speaker 2: got to see any of the Hall of Fame induction

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Speaker 2: speeches yesterday. Some of them are actually really good. I

600
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Speaker 2: was really impressed with some of the speeches out there yesterday, Rich,

601
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Speaker 2: But the real emotional one was the Steve McMichael situation.

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Speaker 2: Of course, he has been battling als. They brought his

603
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Speaker 2: bust and his jacket, his wife was there, brought it

604
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: back to Canton to where he is right now, and

605
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Speaker 2: you know, obviously he's been completely immobilized. The heinous nature

606
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Speaker 2: of this disease is that your brain is one hundred percent.

607
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't affect your mind at all. It just literally

608
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Speaker 2: shuts down every other part of your body. And to

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Speaker 2: be in that hospital room surrounded by his bears, teammates,

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Speaker 2: several of them Hall of Famers wearing their gold jackets,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was that was a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 2: especially when you think about Steve bcmichael. He was he

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Speaker 2: was just a larger than life character, right, He sort

614
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Speaker 2: of had a wrestler's mentality, and you know, he was

615
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: one of those type of guys, right, I'm really yeah,

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00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: the over the top personality, great player. Uh, and to

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Speaker 2: see him in that kind of position as just heartbreaking.

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00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was rough.

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Speaker 3: Look I have I have a friend with ALS, and

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Speaker 3: it's uh, it's really difficult to watch from afar, you know,

621
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Speaker 3: the progress of.

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Speaker 1: This insidious disease.

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Speaker 3: And my hope, my prayer is that at some point

624
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Speaker 3: somebody is able to uncover the smoking gun here and

625
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: is able to help either either slow or stop the

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Speaker 3: rapid progression once it takes a hold of a victim,

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Speaker 3: because that's really what it feels like, Like you just

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00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: pointed out, Uh, it ravages you, but you're fully aware

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Speaker 3: while it's doing so. So it really is like being

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Speaker 3: completely victimized. And it's so random, well and random.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, the percentage of NFL players

632
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Speaker 2: that have ALS is shocking. Three players I only work

633
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: for the Raiders for four and a half years. Three

634
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Speaker 2: players that were with the Raiders when I worked for

635
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: the Raiders died of ALS. Three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: I mean, they talk about how rare this disease is.

638
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: We had Dwight Clark, the forty nine or legendary receiver

639
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: die of ALS. I mean the list goes on and

640
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: on of NFL players. Yeah, because they have not figured

641
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: out why. Obviously, not everyone that plays in the NFL

642
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: gets ALS. Not everyone that gets ALS played in the NFL,

643
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: but the numbers are alarming percentage wise in terms of

644
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: the entire population getting als as opposed to NFL players

645
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 2: getting it. But they still have no direct link. They

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00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: still have any you know, before you can cure a disease,

647
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: you got to figure out out doesn't begin, why, how

648
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: does it happen? And they still only ain't have that.

649
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: So it's just it's very it's you know, like you said,

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Speaker 2: hopefully someone can figure this thing out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I played with Tim shaw Ye at Penn State.

653
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Speaker 3: He played for a bunch of years in the NFL

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Speaker 3: with the Titans. He might have had some stops with

655
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: other teams, but it's just one of those it's just

656
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: one of those things that, like you said, it's higher,

657
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: it's a higher percentage in this community.

658
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Speaker 1: And uh and that was.

659
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Speaker 3: But what I will say is, look, clearly, the man's

660
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 3: life isn't over yet. He's under care and he's got

661
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: his family and his friends around him. And to have

662
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: the opportunity to see your bust before you know this

663
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: that the lights go out, I mean that's got to

664
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: be Look, I know, for me and I'm a football man,

665
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 3: it's it's what I did my entire young life. If

666
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: it's what I did into my adult years. I know,

667
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: for me, some of the accomplishments on the football field

668
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: or around the game of football were some of the

669
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: happiest moments of my life, because that's how important it

670
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: was to me. Obviously, getting married, the birth of my children,

671
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 3: those rank high. But draft day, finding out that I

672
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: was going to be a professional football player, that nobody

673
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: will ever be able to take that.

674
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: Away from me.

675
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: When you know your phone rings and it's robber Craft

676
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: and Bill Belichick and all that hard work, you know,

677
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: is legitimized, like somebody wants you on their roster. It

678
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: was easily one of the most memorable moments of my life.

679
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: I could recall just about every single moment that day.

680
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: That doesn't happen every day, you know.

681
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 3: I mean, there's plenty of forgettable days through your life,

682
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 3: but you know, football moments they stick with you. And

683
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 3: so for this man to be shackled by this disease

684
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 3: and have that moment before he has to say goodbye

685
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: to everybody for good is a special moment and he'll

686
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: obviously enjoy that with his family and his family we'll

687
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: get to go to Canton and enjoy it whenever they

688
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: need a reminder of how great he was. You know,

689
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 3: he'll be enshrined forever.

690
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just so happy he at least survived long

691
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 2: enough to see this magical moment for not only himself,

692
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: but his entire family and his teammates on that great

693
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: Bears team as we think back to the eighty five Bears.

694
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: All Right, on the other side, I'm gonna play a

695
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: little name game of Rich. All right, I'm gonna give

696
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 2: some of the big names of some of the contemporaries

697
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: you played against or alongside with, and their merits is

698
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: a possible first ballot Hall of Famer. This is Fox

699
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin and Rich Armberger. Here Fox Sports Sunday.

700
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 2: Once again, we are live from the tire rack dot

701
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: Com Studios.

702
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: Now I.

703
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: Preface this brief segment with a little disclaimer. I have

704
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: a lifelong obsession with Halls of Fame, and Rich has

705
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: a lifetime I don't know how strong a word I

706
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: want to use here, Let's just say disdain for Hall

707
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 2: of Fame.

708
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if I hate them all together, but.

709
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: I didn't want to use the word. Hey, but you

710
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 2: you're not a big opponent.

711
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: Of I find them distasteful.

712
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that word distasteful, all right. So we

713
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: always as soon as you finish one Hall of Fame class,

714
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: immediately you look to the next Hall of Fame class.

715
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 2: So for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, there are

716
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: six names eligible for the first time that would have

717
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: a legitimate argument for being Hall of Famers. At some point,

718
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: I will preface also by saying, none of these players

719
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: is more deserving than a guy that was inexplicably bypassed

720
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: as a first file Hall of Famer. That's Antonio Gates,

721
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 2: who should have been a first battle Hall of Famer

722
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: was not. None of these plays that I'm gonna mention

723
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 2: are as good as Antonio Gates. All right, So Gates

724
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 2: will get in next year, but maybe one, maybe more

725
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: of these players will be first ballot. I want to

726
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: know if any of these guys, in your opinion, is

727
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 2: a first ballot Hall of Famer. Okay, okay, And these

728
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: are all contemporaries of yours obviously, all right, I'll give

729
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: you the names in random order. Offensive guard Marshall Yanda

730
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: of the Baltimore Ravens. Oh, Yes, first ballot yeah, first ballot. Okay,

731
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 2: so Yonda is a first ballot Hall of Famer. All right,

732
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: how about his longtime teammate Terrell Suggs first ballot Hall

733
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: of Famer?

734
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

735
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: Wow, So two first ballot Hall of Famers. I will

736
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Speaker 2: say this because people have to know this now. Okay,

737
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: let's let's let's pause for a moment. Yeah, let's pause

738
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Speaker 2: for a moment here. So the way the Hall of

739
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 2: Fame works, they'll announce fifteen finals. They would have list

740
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: down to fifty team finalists, and five of those will

741
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: make it. In fact, they've had the maximum of five

742
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: every year for a while. Then they have senior committees

743
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. But just from the main group,

744
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 2: five make it each year. There's never been a year

745
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 2: where more than three of the five have been first

746
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: ballot guys. Ever, Okay, so that in mind. All right,

747
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: So I gave you Marshall Yanda and you say, oh, yeah,

748
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: eight time Pro bowler, two time All Pro guard, first

749
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: bout charl sucks. So there's two Ravens. By the way,

750
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 2: that's not going to happen. They're never going to put

751
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: two teammates in first bout, right, right, So let me

752
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 2: give you another guy, Luke Keikley, Oh, yeah, definitely. Luke

753
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Speaker 2: Keighley is a first bout.

754
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep going, well, Luke Keighley.

755
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: Uh, when do you think is had almost the exact

756
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: same Churis Patrick Willis. Yeah, a shortened career, but like

757
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: all pro every year. You know what, Just give the

758
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: rest of the list hold on a second. I want

759
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: you to get your thoughts on these guys. Marshawn Lynch, Yeah, yeah,

760
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: he's a first ballot Hall of Faper. Okay, now here's

761
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: one I honestly believe is a first ballot Hall of Famer.

762
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: Adam Vinattieri.

763
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: Oh, come on right, Yes, that is.

764
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Speaker 2: A first ballot Hall of Famer, the all time leading

765
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Speaker 2: scorer in the history of the end.

766
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 3: Off my my, my bar for first ballot Hall of Fame,

767
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 3: you know second, just Hall of Fame in general is

768
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 3: so much lower than most people.

769
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: Well, let's see with the last name.

770
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: I'll give you them.

771
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: How far, how how low the bar is for you

772
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: the last name on this list. So I gave you yonda.

773
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: I gave you Suggs, Keikley, Lynch, Vinettieri. All right, here's

774
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 2: the last name, first ballot Hall of Famer. Yay, or

775
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: nay Eli Manning. Oh dude, of course no. Now so,

776
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: first of all, you are directly responsible for Eli Manning

777
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: because your you are Patriots lost twice to this guy.

778
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I was there for one of them,

779
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: all right, so you can't blame me.

780
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Speaker 2: But if he doesn't win the second one, we're not

781
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: He's not even in the conversation. This is a guy

782
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: who is an entire career as a record of one's

783
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: seventeen and one to seventeen as a quarterback. And if

784
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: you take away his two sue ring received, he was

785
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 2: owed for two rings to ring Jim Plunge, Jim Pluggett

786
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 2: has two rings. Where's his Hall of Fame rings? You're

787
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: gonna put Manning in? You're gonna have to put he

788
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: never let the league in any category other than interceptions. Way,

789
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: but then that was my point yesterday. If you're gonna

790
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: put Eli manhuck it, put man get.

791
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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty five, all right, that's the ticket of.

792
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: Those names, one named Vinettieri is the only guy. All right.

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Speaker 2: We continue on this as Fox Sports Sunday, rolling along

794
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Speaker 2: So let's continue on with some NFL talk right now

801
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: into the present, not the past, as I'm still I'm

802
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: still trying to figure this preseason schedule out. Okay, so

803
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: remember how it now works. You have the Hall of

804
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: Fame Game as a standalone extra game for the two

805
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: teams that participate. Then we have three preseason games, and

806
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 2: then we have a week off. Remember that, so we

807
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: have like the week off.

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00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: So, so I remember you used to you go, you

810
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 2: had the four preseason games and then boom, let's let's

811
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Speaker 2: go to the regular season like you would hold guys

812
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 2: out that last preseason game. That's that weird bye week

813
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: before the regular season starts. I hate that. I mean,

814
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: I just I the first time, I'm like, am I

815
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: missing something? What happened to the games?

816
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: Right?

817
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 2: I don't get that? Well, I heard something yesterday. MONSI

818
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 2: had mentioned this yesterday in the show. So Joe Burrow

819
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: is getting out in front of this anticipated and it

820
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 2: will happen, expansion of the NFL regular season to eighteen games.

821
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Speaker 2: And so he was talking about, all right, and we've

822
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Speaker 2: discussed this as well, Rich the idea, if you're going

823
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: to go to an eighteen week schedule, there would be

824
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: two bye weeks. And essentially what you're doing is, right

825
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: now we have eighteen weeks of regular season football, you

826
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Speaker 2: have seventeen games in a bye week. And if you

827
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Speaker 2: go to twenty weeks of regular season football, I mean,

828
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Speaker 2: chi ching, I mean think about the money that the

829
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: networks are going to make off that. So obviously they

830
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: want that. But he was talking about the idea of

831
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: a universal bye week, like every team is off during

832
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: a certain week of the season, and that should be

833
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Speaker 2: the week that they play the Pro Bowl. And I'm

834
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: thinking to myself, that's like never gonna happen. First of all,

835
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: the networks would never want to take an entire week

836
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Speaker 2: off for the whole league. No, that's not gonna happen.

837
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Speaker 2: And the Pro Bowl? What Pro Bowl? Why is there

838
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: even a Pro Bowl? Anyway, you're gonna try to get

839
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: players to play in a Pro Bowl game during the season.

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Speaker 3: Come on, I what's weird about this is I don't

841
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: know why you would necessarily want this, other than I

842
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: guess you could say. Bye weeks can present a fair

843
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: or unfair advantage for a lot of different teams. So

844
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Speaker 3: if you're going to award a second bye week, like

845
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 3: a team could get screwed, like where they have back

846
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 3: to back bye week, Yes, they're off for half a month,

847
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 3: you know it will happen eventually, Or a situation where

848
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 3: both of the bye weeks happened before, say, I don't know,

849
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Speaker 3: week nine, you know what I mean, and all of

850
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 3: a sudden, the team's got a law long stretch before

851
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: the postseason even begins, and you know whereas if it's

852
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 3: more evenly balanced, it's going to be a lot better

853
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: a situation.

854
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: So maybe that's his argument.

855
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: Hey, why don't we all go on rest it for

856
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: a week, let our bodies heal, you know, have it

857
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: somewhere in the middle of the season, you know, play

858
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: you know, nine games, and then pause, play nine more games.

859
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: I get it, but I agree with you. I don't

860
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 3: think the networks are gonna go for it. I think

861
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 3: the networks ultimately have a tremendous amount of control in

862
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 3: the conversation the owners, they're in some ways beholden to

863
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: the networks, and now we're including streaming platforms with this

864
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: conversation because of the amount of money Amazon Prime has

865
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Speaker 3: committed over the next ten years for one game, one

866
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Speaker 3: game a week. It's an astonishing amount, ten billion dollars

867
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Speaker 3: for the next ten years. So it's it's I just

868
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Speaker 3: don't see it happening.

869
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Speaker 11: I just I just don't see Fox, ESPN, CBA, ABC

870
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 11: obviously partnered with ESPN, Amazon, Netflix, who's going to be

871
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 11: getting in the game any of these streamers or networks

872
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 11: thinking this is a good idea and the.

873
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 3: Owners are going to oblige them, or I should say

874
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 3: they are somewhat obligated to listen to what they have

875
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: to say.

876
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: Their input matters.

877
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, a universal bye week one of the reasons

878
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: I didn't like it. You mentioned it as well. Well.

879
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: That would then create a situation where one or more

880
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: teams would definitely have back to back bye weeks. You

881
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: don't want that in the middle of the season. I mean,

882
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: we've already seen the disaster of the postseason where teams

883
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: have clinched their division, clinched their playoff position. Rest everybody

884
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: the final week of the season, and then have a

885
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: bye week the week after that, and then they come

886
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: back and they lay an egg in the playoffs. We've

887
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: seen it many times. Look the idea of healing yourself

888
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: and rich Obviously, as a player, you know this. Yeah

889
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: you're gonna be a little better if you get a

890
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: week off, but you're not fully recovered. It takes months

891
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: after a season to get your back to semi normal,

892
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: unless you obviously have offseason surgeryes something along those lines.

893
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: So there always is something to be said about momentum.

894
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: You're playing well, you want to get back out play

895
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: the next game. You got the other team on their heels.

896
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: There's a lot to be said of that. So it

897
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: will be interesting once they do expand to the eighteen

898
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: game schedule, because I do anticipate they're gonna have two

899
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: bye weeks, but how they set that up is going

900
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: to be very interesting. So the way it is formata

901
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: right now. And you mentioned the fact you played their

902
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 2: last NFL game ten years ago, which isn't a long

903
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: time ago. Obviously, I remember when you were playing ten

904
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: years ago, and you know, I go back a lot further,

905
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: like the days when training camp used to open with

906
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: two a days in the first week of July. Are

907
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: they the way training camps are now?

908
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: Rich? Yeah?

909
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: Are they doing enough now? Everyone could say, well, look

910
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: what happened in twenty twenty They had no preseason games

911
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 2: because of COVID, and you have things looked a little

912
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 2: rusty the first couple of weeks, but it didn't take

913
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: long for everyone to sort of get up to speed.

914
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: Are you gonna ask if they're too soft, Steve, Well,

915
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: if I'm too.

916
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 2: How necessary are they what exactly if you were to say,

917
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: all right, this in this day and age in twenty

918
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: twenty four, where you have players making enough money so

919
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: they can take care of themselves year round, theoretically, what

920
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: are you how would you format an NFL training camp

921
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: to best utilize that time to get your team ready

922
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: for the season.

923
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 3: Look, I think there's a couple of benefits to training

924
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 3: camp or to OTA's where you get the team together

925
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: in the offseason, whether mandatory or quote unquote non mandatory,

926
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 3: which for many players non mandatory still means very much

927
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: so mandatory.

928
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: But I digress.

929
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 3: The benefits are, obviously, you get guys thinking about football

930
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: and burying themselves in their playbook, or if they're not

931
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: the studying type, at least they're in the meeting rooms

932
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 3: listening to football. You know, they're having a coach explained

933
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 3: things and maybe those are things that they've heard a

934
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 3: million times, but maybe the light bulb goes off or

935
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: they make a different mental connection and it helps them

936
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: at some point in the season. Like, there are benefits,

937
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 3: and also there's team bonding, team building. Most of the time,

938
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 3: it is good to have your whole team together, Guys

939
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: getting used to each other, guys starting to care about

940
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 3: each other.

941
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: All that stuff matters as well.

942
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 3: And then also, you know, typically especially when we're dealing

943
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 3: with this age range, you know, young.

944
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: Suddenly rich or wealthy.

945
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 3: Men who are you know, alpha males, high testosterone like

946
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 3: all that stuff.

947
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: It keeps them out of trouble a little bit.

948
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: You know, having everybody kind of under the pressure of

949
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 3: being evaluated by your coaches every day, a lot less

950
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 3: partying when you have to wake up for practice the

951
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: next day or an early meeting and you can't be late,

952
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: all that type of stuff. So you know, there's benefits.

953
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 3: Here are the negatives for every moment you spent on

954
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: a practice field, you have a chance of injury, and

955
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 3: that chance is extremely high because football is a dangerous game.

956
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: It's a violent game.

957
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 3: Now, you could take the pads off and you could

958
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: just run around in your helmets and you can do

959
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: those sort of things, but how much are you really

960
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 3: getting out of practice then?

961
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 1: And so you have to start thinking about are.

962
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: We developing good habits practicing out of pads? And so

963
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: I do think there's a point of diminishing returns where

964
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 3: too much practice during the offseason can actually hurt your team.

965
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 3: And so I don't know exactly how I would script it,

966
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 3: but I promise you if I was king for a day,

967
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 3: there would be a lot less practices and there probably

968
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 3: would be a lot less meetings as well, because the

969
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 3: reality of the situation is the off seasons for the coaches,

970
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: It isn't for the place exactly.

971
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 2: In other words, I'm not saying that coaches obviously don't

972
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 2: have a huge impact on these games, because they do.

973
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 2: But it just seems to me that when you overcoach

974
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: on the field, off the field, in the meetings room,

975
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: it's almost a justification of the salary you're drawing. And

976
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 2: these assistants as well as the head coaches are making

977
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: a pretty penny, So how do you justify that? Well,

978
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: you got it. You know, we gotta have more meetings

979
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: and you know, break down this and break down and just.

980
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 3: Coaches get bored. Look, let me let me tell you

981
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 3: about a coach's life. The most exciting part of being

982
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 3: a coach is actually being outside on the field coaching

983
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 3: your players, right, because that's what you got into it for.

984
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 3: You didn't get into it so you can watch, you know,

985
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 3: film reel after film reel after film reel, breaking down

986
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 3: what formation the offense you're preparing for, and the shifts

987
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: and the motions and all the different you know, plays

988
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 3: that they run, and how do we defeat this? You know,

989
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: they're going to run these cover two beaters against this defense,

990
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 3: and we like to run that defense, but we can't

991
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 3: run that defense. So what are we going to transition to?

992
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: All the figuring it out parts? Some guys obviously love

993
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 3: that part of it too, but I mean, the usually

994
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 3: coaches want to be out there on the field coaching,

995
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: And so I think coaches who obviously worked directly for

996
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: the owners, they don't have a union, They are directly

997
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 3: hired by the ownership. I think coaches have convinced owners

998
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 3: that we need to meet and we need to practice

999
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 3: as much as humanly possible. And the union, which is

1000
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 3: obviously made up by the players, the NFLPA, they say, look,

1001
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 3: we practice and.

1002
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: We meet too much.

1003
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 3: We can play just as good as football without all

1004
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 3: these meetings and all these practices. And you know what,

1005
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 3: the pandemic sort of proved it. The dirty little secret

1006
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: is you don't need a practice as much as they do.

1007
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 3: You don't because these guys understand the challenge. These guys

1008
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 3: are staying in better shape than they ever have and

1009
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: frankly they can because they're being paid.

1010
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: Better than they ever have been paid.

1011
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: So you can spend your entire offseason concentrating on your nutrition,

1012
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 3: making sure your weight is dialed in. You're getting stronger,

1013
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 3: you're rehabbing from injuries, You're doing the things that you

1014
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 3: need to do because it's hyper competitive out there and

1015
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 3: you want to be the best you can.

1016
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: I always think back to a Hall of Fame coach

1017
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: by the name of Bud Grant. He was the coach

1018
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 2: of the Vikings Forever Okay, and Bud Grant was old school.

1019
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 2: His idea of his work week during the season nine

1020
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: to five. That's my workday. I work from nine to five, okay.

1021
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: And what was interesting is that philosophy had carried over

1022
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 2: to his team, so he wasn't breaking down guys in practice.

1023
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 2: And guess what if you look at the length of

1024
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: the careers of those Vikings players over that period, they

1025
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: had some of the longest careers of any players in

1026
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: the history of the NFL. Telling you, man, they had

1027
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: some I mean you look fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years. All

1028
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 2: of these great Viking players played forever and they never

1029
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: seem to get hurt.

1030
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 3: If you take a hammer and you smack it against

1031
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: stone over and over and over and over again, yes, yeah,

1032
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna break a lot of stones, There's no question

1033
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: about it. But at some point you're gonna break the hammer.

1034
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 3: At some point. You know, the handle it's going to snap,

1035
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 3: it's going at some point, the metal's gonna crack.

1036
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: At some point, the.

1037
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 3: Heavy the head of the hammer is gonna fly off

1038
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: because you know, the wedge or the pressure wedge or

1039
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 3: the glue that held it to the shaft of the

1040
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 3: hammer is going to come apart.

1041
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: Something's gonna go wrong.

1042
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 3: If you overuse athletes it's the same thing. You will

1043
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: wear them down eventually. And so I know it looks

1044
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 3: soft or it sounds soft, like, oh, these football players,

1045
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 3: these these men, these these don't get me wrong. Practice

1046
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: is important, but there's a point of diminishing returns. And Buddy,

1047
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 3: I wish I could have played for Bud Graat. That

1048
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: sounds like, that sounds.

1049
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: Like a picnic.

1050
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, he never won a Super Bowl. He

1051
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: went to four Super Bowls and by the way, in

1052
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: an eleven year run, they made the playoffs ten times,

1053
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 2: and they didn't have the expanded playoffs that we have now.

1054
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 2: In those days, he had three division winners and one

1055
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 2: wild card and they were in the playoffs ten out

1056
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: of eleven years. So whatever he was doing, it was

1057
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: working all right. Coming up on the other side, every year,

1058
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: this is the most talked about team in the NFL,

1059
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: regardless of what they actually do during the season. And

1060
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: it's decision time once again for America's team will break

1061
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 2: it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin and

1062
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: Rich Hornberger. Here Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from

1063
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: the ti iraq dot Com studios. By the way, coming

1064
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: up in a few weeks, we'll be long Rich Red

1065
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 2: Zone Radio, yes, sir, but the two of us are

1066
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 2: gonna be back in full force. And you know that means, folks,

1067
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 2: it's it's honestly, of all the things I've done in

1068
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: radio over these many many many many many many many

1069
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 2: many years, nothing compares to Red Zone Radio.

1070
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Speaker 7: Hey.

1071
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: We just have our whole crew here. You know, we

1072
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: have Mansei, we have Bo, we have Chris, You and

1073
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: I open mics watching you know, sometimes ten games simultaneously

1074
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: trying to get our listeners updated on everything, on what's

1075
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: happening in the games, the stats get for their fantasy football.

1076
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 2: It's craziness. It flies by, uh and it's gonna be here,

1077
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: so Rich.

1078
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's really one of the best shows

1079
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 3: that I've worked.

1080
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the ultimate.

1081
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 3: It's it's i mean, it's just a bunch of us

1082
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 3: sitting down, we're watching football, and we're saying words out

1083
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 3: while watching football. It sort of sounds like what I'd

1084
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: be doing anyways, exactly.

1085
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 2: It's exactly what you're doing. The mics are open, that's it.

1086
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: That's the only difference is you're watching all the games,

1087
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 2: you know, with all your buddies and everything else. Same

1088
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: thing here. It's just that we have MIC's on and

1089
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: it's yeah, it's football, football happening, so year in and

1090
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 2: year out. Despite the fact that it's almost now thirty

1091
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 2: years since this team has even made it to the

1092
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 2: conference championship game, the Dallas Cowboys find a way to

1093
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: stay in the news. And I don't think it's by accident.

1094
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 2: I think Jerry Jones, who has the most valuable sports

1095
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 2: franchise on the planet, understands that any time you can

1096
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 2: find a way to be in the news is good

1097
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 2: for the brand. And so once again we got this

1098
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: contract situation with the Cowboys and Dak Prescott. Do we

1099
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: still have that Dak Scott sound, Chris, He spoke the

1100
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 2: other day, see if you've got that in the system.

1101
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott is trying to get an extension with the Cowboys. Remember,

1102
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: he's coming off a season, a regular season in which

1103
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: he was runner up for Most Valuable Player, He led

1104
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 2: the NFL with thirty six touchdown passes, and then of

1105
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: course follow that up with a dreadful playoff performance. His

1106
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 2: regular season record is now seventy three and forty one.

1107
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: His postseason record is two and five. Chris, did you

1108
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: find that at all?

1109
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's him talking about the money, right, yes, all right,

1110
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 5: So this is this is Dak Prescott as he continues

1111
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 5: to negotiate a new deal with the Cowboys.

1112
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 12: The money's out there, the money can it can happen,

1113
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 12: it can be done. There's ways to make everything work

1114
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 12: for both ways. And that's in that sense as it's

1115
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 12: always about pushing the envelope for the next man.

1116
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 7: And that's why I said that.

1117
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 12: But then again it's I've never truly cared about the number.

1118
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,959
Speaker 2: Well, and he also had on another statement, he talked

1119
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: about the fact that he's a dad now got to

1120
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 2: think about the.

1121
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 4: Future, right, Yeah, so that was the other sound.

1122
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have that sound as well?

1123
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 4: All right, I didn't evenalize.

1124
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 2: My mic was on, shoot, yes, yes, I want to

1125
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 2: hear that. Yes, here we go. That's okay, we're all open.

1126
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: MIC's here. Let's hear that.

1127
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 13: Just an off season of having a kid, your perspective

1128
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 13: changes a little bit of life that sometimes you have

1129
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 13: to look forward and having that downtime and in the

1130
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 13: off season, as I said, it wasn't about necessarily obviously

1131
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 13: when I was training, my focus was there, but just

1132
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 13: in raising a newborn, creating a family. You have to

1133
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 13: think about the future at times. And as I said,

1134
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 13: I looked up and as I said, all great quarterbacks

1135
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 13: and it's honestly a lot of quarterbacks that have done that.

1136
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 13: And that's just the business and the nature of this game.

1137
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 13: And that's me not being naive to that and to

1138
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 13: those potentials. And as I said in that press conference,

1139
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 13: and not something that I look for or prepare even

1140
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 13: planned for. But if something like that happens, I'll be

1141
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 13: most certainly ready for it, just because that's who I am,

1142
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 13: and that's where my focus will remain and trying to

1143
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 13: get better and wherever I'm at.

1144
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you have to start thinking about your

1145
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: kid's future when your net worth is only sixty million

1146
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: dollars as we sit right now. All right, So let

1147
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,959
Speaker 2: me ask. I'm going to give you two options if

1148
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: you are Dak Prescott or representing Dak Prescott. Option one

1149
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: is to agree on a contract extension with the Cowboys.

1150
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: Option two is to not ex sign an extension and

1151
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: become a free agent after the season. And when you

1152
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: think about the kind of money that Kirk Cousins got

1153
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: right coming off of blown Achilles older than obviously Dak

1154
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: will be a year from now. I mean we could

1155
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 2: be looking at money through the stratosphere. If you are

1156
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott on the open market now, obviously you run

1157
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: a risk of being hurt. Although again, what's more devastating

1158
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: than an Achilles injury didn't hurt the market value for

1159
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. So those are your two choices. Which one

1160
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: would you choose if you are Dak Prescott or representing

1161
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott.

1162
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 3: Look, here's the tricky thing. If you overplay your hand,

1163
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 3: you can hurt the potential you have in terms of

1164
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 3: making money. However, there's a part of you, or any

1165
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 3: athlete or any person that really does want to bet

1166
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 3: on yourself and say, Okay, if they are still not

1167
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 3: at my number and I think I'm worth what I

1168
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 3: believe i'm worth, I'm not going to show up until

1169
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 3: or at very least, I'm going to drive a hard

1170
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 3: bargain until they reach or my number or something close

1171
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 3: to it.

1172
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: Here's the risks and the rewards.

1173
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 3: The risks are the Dallas Cowboys could have him play

1174
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,479
Speaker 3: out this contract and he could have a lousy year

1175
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 3: or an injury ridden year, and end up. You know,

1176
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 3: in a situation where a lot of teams are like, hey,

1177
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 3: we just saw this song and dance with Russell Wilson,

1178
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 3: do we really is there a team out there that's

1179
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 3: really desperate enough to take the gamble on signing him

1180
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 3: as a free agent. Now, in Russell Wilson's case, it

1181
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 3: was a trade and Seattle made out like fat rats,

1182
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 3: especially considering what Denver got.

1183
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: In terms of his performance.

1184
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 3: You think about it from that standpoint, there's recent precedent

1185
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 3: where an aging veteran quarterback leaving the only team that

1186
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 3: he's ever played for and going and playing in a

1187
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 3: new city, a new environment, new teammates, all that stuff.

1188
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 3: It didn't pan out the right way. Now, these are

1189
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 3: two very different people from a personality standpoint. I think

1190
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 3: that Dak seems, at least on at face value, a

1191
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 3: little bit more authentic than maybe Russell Wilson does.

1192
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: And there aren't as many.

1193
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 3: Weird, you know, kind of side stories coming out about

1194
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 3: Dak's relationship with the coaching staff or with his his teammates.

1195
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: I think that that was a very Russell Wilson storyline,

1196
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 3: and that's not typical of a lot of other quarterbacks.

1197
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 3: But getting back to Dak like there's some recent precedent

1198
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 3: that this hasn't worked out. He's looking for an enormous

1199
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 3: amount of money, I'm sure, and if you overplay your hand,

1200
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 3: you may never see a contract even as big as

1201
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 3: the most recent one you sign again. And potentially if

1202
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 3: you underplay your hand though, you stick with the Dallas Cowboys,

1203
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 3: who you haven't been able to usher into a conference

1204
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 3: championship game or certainly into a super Bowl since you've

1205
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 3: been the starting quarterback, you're going to see the coach

1206
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 3: get fired most likely at some point during your tenure.

1207
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 3: So you'll be onto your third coach during your tenure

1208
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 3: with the Dallas Cowboys. And my question is this, you know,

1209
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 3: if you do end up playing on a lesser than contract,

1210
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 3: well lesser than you think you deserve, and you're going

1211
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 3: through that those sea changes with the organization, is there

1212
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 3: a part of Dak Prescott who says to himself, Hey,

1213
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 3: you know, I wish I would have gotten opportunity to

1214
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 3: play elsewhere. So that's the balancing act mentally that he's

1215
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 3: going through trying to figure out what decision, what direction

1216
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 3: to go in, and to be perfectly honest with you Steve,

1217
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,479
Speaker 3: there's no way to know if it's the right choice

1218
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 3: or the wrong choice. Here's what I think is the

1219
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 3: right choice for both sides, though, frankly, if they can

1220
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 3: keep the party together, if he can get a contract

1221
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 3: that satisfies him, if the Dallas Cowboys can do the same,

1222
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 3: and they can continue keeping this ball rolling, Dak Prescott,

1223
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 3: I promise you will not be more famous or more successful,

1224
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 3: most likely with any other organization, and he certainly wouldn't

1225
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 3: be the talking point that he is.

1226
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: So many people pay attention to.

1227
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott because he's the Dallas Cowboys quarterback. If he

1228
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 3: played for the Cardinals or the Falcons, or the Saints

1229
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,479
Speaker 3: or the Commanders, do you think we would talk about

1230
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott nearly as much?

1231
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: Danswer is absolutely yeah. On the other side, I'll give

1232
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: you an update on why he is really sitting pretty

1233
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 2: right now regardless of what option he chooses. But first

1234
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 2: let's find out what is trending right now. And Monci,

1235
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 2: we have had a lot going on in terms of

1236
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: these Olympic Games.

1237
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 10: Really, there is so much going on, and it's I'm

1238
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 10: with you. I'm enjoying them way more than I thought.

1239
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 2: I am again, I did not even know there was

1240
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 2: three on three basketball. By the way, I was watching

1241
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 2: the other day, I'm like, what am I watching?

1242
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 14: You?

1243
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 2: Is there three on three basketball in the Olympics. Of

1244
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: course the US team went out.

1245
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, the men's The men's is out.

1246
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 2: Who would find, Yes, didn't even get out of the

1247
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: group stage.

1248
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, they were not doing so.

1249
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 2: Embarrassing for us. And we can't put together a decent

1250
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:48,439
Speaker 2: three on three team.

1251
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 9: I mean a little bit.

1252
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 10: But the players aren't you know, they didn't pick three

1253
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 10: players of the NBA.

1254
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 4: Jimmifer Dad was on that team.

1255
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 10: Okay, Yeah, like you know, and there's like weird rules

1256
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 10: in order for you.

1257
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 2: To have to be eligible. I don't want to get this.

1258
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: Anybody should be if they wanted to play, should be eligible,

1259
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 2: but you're not. You have to actually play in a

1260
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 2: three on three league to be eligible.

1261
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, so it's a little bit you know different.

1262
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 10: Let's say, uh, let's start in baseball, fellas, because Paul Skins,

1263
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 10: who you guys know, I already love. In fact, Brie

1264
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 10: left me a shirt with skiings on it and a

1265
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 10: mustache rich like, I love it. I mentioned that I

1266
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 10: wanted a skiing shirt with a mustache and she literally

1267
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 10: found that, so obviously I'm gonna start with that story.

1268
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 10: He has been taken off the mound for the Pirates.

1269
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 10: He did pitch five and a third innings. He gave

1270
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 10: up one earned run. He gave up I think it

1271
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 10: was let me double check the final five hits, two

1272
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 10: earned runs.

1273
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 9: He struck out four, but in.

1274
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 10: Five and a third innings he did have one hundred pitches.

1275
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 10: The Pirates, though, are still beating the Diamondbacks four to two,

1276
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 10: top of the seventh inning, Marlins all over the Braves

1277
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 10: in Atlanta six zero, top of the seventh, as wells

1278
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 10: blanking the Brewers four zero, top of the eighth. The

1279
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 10: Yankees have yet to score. They do have a man

1280
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 10: on first and second. It's the bottom of the sixth inning,

1281
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 10: but the Blue Jays are up to zero. The Guardians

1282
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 10: are making it interesting. They have cut their deficit to

1283
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 10: one against the Oriels six y five, top of the six,

1284
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 10: Tigers beating the Royals to zero bottom of the seventh.

1285
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 9: White Sox on the scoreboard again. They've lost nineteen.

1286
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 10: In a row, but the Twins are up eight to

1287
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 10: two top of the fourth. Rays are beating the Astros

1288
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 10: one zero, bottom of the fifth and the Rangers are

1289
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 10: beating the Red Sox two to one, top of the fourth.

1290
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 10: One game already wrapped up in baseball, and it's the

1291
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 10: Giants who took down the Reds eight to two was

1292
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 10: the final score. Now, Noah Lyles, does that name.

1293
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 9: Sound familiar to you?

1294
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 10: That is the sprinter who made a comment about, you know, basketball,

1295
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 10: the NBA calling themselves world champions.

1296
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 9: Chemi is a what remember.

1297
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 10: That he just lost in I think he's still advancing

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Speaker 10: to the next round, but in one of these heats,

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Speaker 10: one of these you know, qualifying races. He had lost

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Speaker 10: two oblique Seville by point zero two tenths of a second,

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Speaker 10: and there's like a picture and he is looking at

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Speaker 10: him like as.

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Speaker 9: They crossed the finish line, he's just staring at him.

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Speaker 10: But Seville, Seville, I don't know how he says his

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Speaker 10: last name. By point zero two tenths of a second

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Speaker 10: is how he beat Noah Lyles. Scotti Scheffler won the

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Speaker 10: gold in men's golf, while Tommy Fleetwood took silver. He

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Speaker 10: Deki Matsuyama took the bronze. We just talked about women's basketball.

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Speaker 10: They defeated, but not the three on three. The actual

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Speaker 10: five on five women's basketball defeated Germany eighty seven to

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Speaker 10: sixty eight. They're perfect three and zero in pool play

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Speaker 10: and honorable mention Nigeria's women's national team. They made history

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Speaker 10: the first African basketball team man or woman to reach

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Speaker 10: an Olympic quarterfinals.

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Speaker 9: So a little little knowledge for you there.

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Speaker 10: In swimming twenty eight total swimming medals fourteen USA, Bobby

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Speaker 10: Fink goes back to back to win gold fourteen USA,

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Speaker 10: breaking the men's fifteen hundred world record. USA also won

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Speaker 10: the gold in the women's four by one hundred medley relay,

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Speaker 10: also set a world record. Women's volleyball, they swept France

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Speaker 10: to finish group play two to one. They're advancing to

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Speaker 10: the quarterfinals. And Novak Djokovic he defeated Carlos Soukaras in

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Speaker 10: tennis to win his first gold medal at the age

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Speaker 10: of thirty seven.

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Speaker 9: Back to you guys, all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that is that's a consistency that uh that

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Speaker 3: I guess we should have could have saw coming, but

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Speaker 3: didn't didn't didn't necessarily and here we are.

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Speaker 2: It just gets more and more and more right through

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Speaker 2: the stratosphere. All Right, So the Cowboys, and we're talking

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Speaker 2: about this Dak Prescott situation. They were hoping that they

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Speaker 2: might be entering this time to have some sort of

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Speaker 2: leverage against Dak Prescott, Like they got something in the

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Speaker 2: bullpen where they could say, well, if you don't take this,

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Speaker 2: or we'll go to option B. Well, option B is

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Speaker 2: not working out very well, right. Trey Lance, who they

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Speaker 2: acquired from the forty nine ers, by all accounts, has

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Speaker 2: been flat out awful during this training camp, Like he

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Speaker 2: has no concept of the Cowboys offensive system. In fact,

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Speaker 2: some people reporting on the Cowboys have been sharing videos

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Speaker 2: of interceptions he's throwing to well directly to defenders right,

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Speaker 2: like there's no receiver actually in the picture. And there's

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Speaker 2: been some suggestions that all right, if you're going to

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Speaker 2: create an option B in Trey Lance, and this system

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Speaker 2: is not working for this guy, then you need to

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Speaker 2: create a new system them for Trey Lance. I don't

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Speaker 2: know why I get back to this whole Trey Lance thing.

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Speaker 2: Remember the forty nine ers they traded up and yeah

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Speaker 2: they lucked out with Brock Purdy. But what happened here?

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Speaker 2: How can guys be so wrong about a player who

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Speaker 2: played one year of FCS football and he was anointed

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Speaker 2: as a generational talent. Remember his one year as a starter.

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Speaker 2: He didn't throw a single interception?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: None, He ran for over a thousand yards, Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: three thousand yards passing. Obviously, North Dakota State they win

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01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 2: that championship every year, and it was that kind of

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Speaker 2: a year. Then came the COVID year where he played

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Speaker 2: I think one game. They only played one game as

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Speaker 2: a team, and then he was the third pick in

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Speaker 2: the draft. So it appears that whatever plans they had

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Speaker 2: for a possible Plan B to make we gained some

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Speaker 2: leverage to sort of keep dak Prescott's contract in line

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Speaker 2: has gone out the window.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna comment on on two things along the

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Speaker 3: Trey Lance storyline. Two things can be true at once

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Speaker 3: Trey Lance could have been a generational talent but also

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Speaker 3: not have been ready to play at the NFL level,

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Speaker 3: Like it's okay to be super talented at one level

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Speaker 3: and really not not not capable of making that jump,

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Speaker 3: because let's face it, all this is based on potential anyways.

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Speaker 3: It's not like because Bryce Young worked out and CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud or excuse me didn't work out and c J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud did, mikes the Carolina Panthers, you know, so stupid,

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Speaker 3: Like how could they take him first overall?

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile c J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud is the second overall pick and the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 3: now if on their franchise quarterback, what a laughing stock

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Speaker 3: Carolina is. It's like, yeah, not so fast, because there

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Speaker 3: was a chorus of people saying that Bryce Young was

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Speaker 3: the number one overall pick in this draft. This is

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Speaker 3: all based on potential, So yeah, I mean they looked

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Speaker 3: at this big, strong, mobile, accurate, consistent performer at North

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Speaker 3: Dakota State and said, hey, I think we've got a

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Speaker 3: situation on our hands where we if we draft this guy,

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Speaker 3: he could be the future of football, and not just

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Speaker 3: the future of this franchise, but he could take over

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Speaker 3: this league. And to be perfectly honest with you, maybe

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Speaker 3: with a different team it would have worked out, maybe

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Speaker 3: with a different system, maybe with a different group of players.

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Speaker 1: Around him, or maybe not.

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Speaker 3: You just don't know because there's thirty two chances, you know,

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Speaker 3: for a team to draft you, and you never know

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Speaker 3: where you're gonna go, and each situation is gonna be

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Speaker 3: vastly different from the other. So I digress on that

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Speaker 3: part of the conversation to just say, like it is

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Speaker 3: a crapshoot in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Now moving on to where he is in Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are some reports that have been negative, but

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Speaker 3: training camp is supposed to be about learning, especially if

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Speaker 3: you're a backup quarterback and you have limited reps. You know,

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01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 3: if you're thrown into the frying pan, you know, and

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01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 3: you're going against the number one defense some days and

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Speaker 3: you're throwing the football around the yard and you're unsure

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01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 3: of yourself and you're unsure of maybe the game plan

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Speaker 3: because you weren't expecting to get some.

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Speaker 1: Reps or maybe you were.

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Speaker 3: But they're challenging you at practice the way that you

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Speaker 3: should challenge your offense because you want to try to

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Speaker 3: make them better. Well, that's a good thing. I don't

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Speaker 3: understand why we get so negative on players during training camp.

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Speaker 3: So I think this. I think that it's possible that

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01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys like them, that they're not afraid that

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Speaker 3: people are saying, you know, negative things about them online

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01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 3: because they're not moving off of him. And if he

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01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 3: ends up getting some playing time this year for whatever reason,

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Speaker 3: the expectations are low, so he most likely will overperform

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01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 3: them if he's any kind of a player at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna reserve judgment on Trey Lance, I agree.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, like I said, they were

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01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 2: hoping that. I mean, if he ever develops it, it

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be this year. There's no switch. It's going to

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01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 2: be right now, at least in the system that they

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01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 2: run because it's it's.

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Speaker 3: And they may have been hoping that, but they only

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Speaker 3: stake the fourth rounder on that, h hope.

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Speaker 2: But unfortunately they got to make a decision now. And

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01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 2: apparently the big hold up isn't necessarily the money of

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01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 2: the contract for Dak Prescott. It is the length of

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Speaker 2: the contract and that is the hold up right now.

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Speaker 2: All right, we got more NFL news for you, because

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Speaker 2: well that's what we like best at this time of

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Speaker 2: the year. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin and

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Speaker 2: Rich Harberger Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the

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Speaker 2: tire rack dot Com studios. So one of the awards

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Speaker 2: they give out in the NFL every year is the

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Speaker 2: Comeback Player of the Year. I wonder if there should

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Speaker 2: be another award added, Comeback Coach of the Year. I

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01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 2: really wonder about this rich And the one coach that

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to zero in right now is Brian Dable

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Speaker 2: of the Giants. So Brian Dable becomes the head coach

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Speaker 2: of the Giants with a lot of fanfare after he

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Speaker 2: was given a full credit for the emergence of Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen in Buffalo as one of the premier quarterbacks in

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Speaker 2: the league. And then as the first year coach, the

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Speaker 2: Giants make the playoffs, even win a road playoff game

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Speaker 2: against the Vikings, and they decide that and he's decided

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Speaker 2: that he has his quarterback in Daniel Jones, and they

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Speaker 2: give him a huge deal. And then twenty twenty three happens,

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01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 2: and it wasn't just the fact that they had a

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Speaker 2: bad season with wins and losses. There was the melt

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Speaker 2: down with Martindale. I mean, it just looked like a

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Speaker 2: coach that had seemingly overnight gone in front of one

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Speaker 2: of the most highly tauted new coaches in the league

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01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 2: to a guy that had completely lost control and so

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01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 2: now they're in training camp. They're trying to put some

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01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 2: positive spins on the comeback of Daniel Jones right now.

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01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 2: But from a player's standpoint, can a coach be rehabbed

1485
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 2: because we talk about this a lot rich like, once

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01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 2: a coach has sort of lost the locker room, it's over,

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Speaker 2: it's time to move on. Can you get it back?

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01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 2: I mean, can Brian Dable regain the stature that he

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01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 2: was enjoying after his first season with the Giants after

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Speaker 2: what happened last season?

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Speaker 1: Yep? By winning? Tell you what?

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Speaker 3: Winning is the soothing bomb or the healing salve that

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Speaker 3: cures all wounds. You want to have belief in your system,

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Speaker 3: or your coaching prowess, or your ability to lead win

1495
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of ball games because players don't get

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01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 3: me wrong. Players understand that they're responsible for outcomes. But

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Speaker 3: unless there is a completely incompetent person at the head

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01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 3: of the team, there's an awareness that coaching is important,

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Speaker 3: and leadership is important, and having a singular voice and

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Speaker 3: tone setter helping the cause along is important. And I

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Speaker 3: think that first year with Brian day Ball proved that

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Speaker 3: you know that the players, that there was a big

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Speaker 3: amount of buying in that locker room, that the players

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01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 3: appeared to play hard for him, and at times last year,

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Speaker 3: outside of like the offensive struggles, that defense played really

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01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 3: successfully at times that they played winning football.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't a ton of quit in the Giants.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, the answer to your question in short is absolutely,

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Speaker 3: he can win back the locker room or can win

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01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 3: over more hearts and minds just by get I getting

1511
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 3: out to a good start this.

1512
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 2: Season well, but part of getting to a good start

1513
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 2: obviously is again getting back to what you discussed. In

1514
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 2: their first year, they were all in with Brian Dable,

1515
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 2: Like he came in with a hot resume, and the

1516
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 2: Giants were looking for you know, they'd had this turnover

1517
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 2: that was at four straight coaches that were two and

1518
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 2: out with a Giant, so they were like looking for

1519
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 2: that guy to bring some stability to the organization. And

1520
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 2: they were fully in that first year to get as

1521
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 2: far as they got. But it completely unraveled last year. Yeah,

1522
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 2: I mean it completely unraveled. And obviously when you look

1523
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 2: at expectations for this Giants team going into twenty twenty four,

1524
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 2: there are no expectations other than another bad season. And

1525
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 2: if he has another bad season, most likely Brian Dabel

1526
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: is going to be looking for another job. And so

1527
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 2: I'm just always curious, like, can coaches really rehab themselves?

1528
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 2: He said, well, winning, But winning comes with everyone being

1529
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 2: on the same page, does it not?

1530
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: Of course?

1531
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 3: And it starts with the quarterback Daniel Jones. There's a

1532
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 3: lot riding on this season with DJ. If he has goodyear,

1533
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 3: so will Brian Dable. If he has a bad year,

1534
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 3: the Giants, the ownership may decide to blow the whole

1535
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 3: thing up.

1536
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:21,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see. By the way,

1537
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. The report is Dable holding Daniel Jones' feet

1538
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 2: to the fire. Well, yeah, for his own job. Security

1539
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:30,719
Speaker 2: is what he's doing.

1540
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: All right.

1541
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 2: More Olympic news to get to, and we're gonna check

1542
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 2: in with John Paul Morosi. A lot of things happening

1543
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Speaker 2: the books. Noel Liles, as reported by Montzi and the update,

1551
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 2: has won the one hundred meter final. He is the

1552
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 2: fastest man on the planet. And what a final it was.

1553
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 2: He did not get a good start in this race

1554
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 2: and he won at the wire.

1555
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 5: He won by five one thousandths of a second.

1556
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 2: He had to overcome. He really almost was the last

1557
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:30,600
Speaker 2: guy out of the blocks. And unbelievable finish.

1558
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 1: To this race.

1559
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 5: They've got the photo from up top and it is

1560
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 5: just it is the It is the toes of his

1561
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 5: foot just barely outstretching the Jamaican runner.

1562
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 2: That was an unbelievable I just watched several replays of it.

1563
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 2: Now give us the backstory again. So Noel Liles called

1564
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 2: out the NBA player years ago, yeah back in the day,

1565
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,480
Speaker 2: claiming that being NBA champions is not world champions.

1566
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 5: I don't they call themselves world champions. And he kind

1567
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 5: of like it was more of a thing about all

1568
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 5: American sports calling themselves world champions. And he was he

1569
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 5: kind of cheekly was like world champions of what you know,

1570
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,799
Speaker 5: what countries are you competing against?

1571
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: There?

1572
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, how do you feel about that? Rich

1573
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 2: if you have a when you say I'm a world

1574
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 2: champion winning an American team sport championship. Huh?

1575
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 3: I mean, what's what's the problem you have with the

1576
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 3: delineation there?

1577
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. You're an NBA champion, You're an

1578
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 2: NFL champion. You're a champion as opposed to calling yourself

1579
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 2: a world champion.

1580
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 5: He was trying to pump himself up about like how

1581
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 5: important like his you know, he was talking a lot

1582
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 5: about like he thought what he was doing was on

1583
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 5: higher scale at the time for track and field, and

1584
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,719
Speaker 5: to be clear, like he's gone through a lot too,

1585
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 5: and this was I think, what was it a couple

1586
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 5: of years ago when he made those statements as well, So.

1587
01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 3: I don't like, you know, for example, Austin river Goes

1588
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 3: goes and says, hey, I don't think I think there's

1589
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 3: a lot more NBA players who could play in the

1590
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 3: NFL than vice versa, right, and then everybody goes to

1591
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 3: nuts and it's like really, and you know you want

1592
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 3: to make your list and ride off of this, you know,

1593
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 3: this wake of you know, people being upset about it.

1594
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:20,799
Speaker 1: Right, I think this feels similar.

1595
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 3: It's like, well, of course, the best football players in

1596
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:27,759
Speaker 3: the world, the world champion football players are the players

1597
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 3: in the NFL, you know what I mean. I'm not

1598
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 3: saying I'm not saying that there aren't great football players

1599
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 3: in other countries. There are, you know, there have been

1600
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 3: some great foreign born football players. But it just so

1601
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:42,839
Speaker 3: happens that the best football players play in the United

1602
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 3: States consistently, and the majority of them are here in

1603
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 3: the United States playing in the NFL. And so when

1604
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 3: they say a Super Bowl winner is a world champion, yeah,

1605
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 3: that makes sense to me.

1606
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,719
Speaker 2: Same with baseball, really, I mean, you have a World

1607
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 2: Baseball Classic, right, isn't that more of a representative of

1608
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 2: a world tournament?

1609
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 3: Well, I suppose you're right there. However, even then the

1610
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 3: teams that come together for the WBC, are they really

1611
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 3: even the best teams that America can make?

1612
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 5: Well, this in lies the rub of like trying to

1613
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 5: do world champion when we do also have here kind

1614
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 5: of the differentiation between amateur and like the Olympic and

1615
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 5: or semi pro whatever we call this now versus a

1616
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 5: team of what you have, which is composed professionals. Look,

1617
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 5: I know those are the best, and they're being paid

1618
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:36,799
Speaker 5: to be the best on their teams.

1619
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 3: And I hate to distill it to just that, but

1620
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 3: Chris is right, and I mean, and the point is

1621
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 3: the reason why Major League Baseball is the the prime

1622
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,560
Speaker 3: baseball league on the planet is because.

1623
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 1: It pays the best money.

1624
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 3: The reason why soccer is better in Europe is it

1625
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 3: pays better than the United States. Like that's that look

1626
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 3: football same way here in the USA. You know, it's

1627
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 3: a mixed bag with hockey, other Olympic sports and other

1628
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 3: more fringe sports like you know, volleyball and things of

1629
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 3: that nature, like overseas obviously pays better.

1630
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: But like that's what this comes down to.

1631
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 3: And so the getting all hot and bothered about the

1632
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 3: Moniker World Champion, I mean, it's a talking point, but

1633
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 3: I think overall we're just arguing semantics, you know. Yeah,

1634
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 3: I think when the Olympics comes together, when you win

1635
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 3: Olympic gold in these track and field sports, there's something

1636
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 3: insanely important in terms of your credentialing as a sprinter

1637
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:37,640
Speaker 3: or javelin thrower.

1638
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 1: Or you know, shot putter or you know, a.

1639
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,520
Speaker 3: Four by one hundred relay runner, like, that's that's impressive.

1640
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 3: It's important if if you're a baseball player and you

1641
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 3: win over to South Korea and you won whatever, the

1642
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 3: World Series of the KBO is, it's not going to

1643
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 3: be nearly as impressive as if you're a Korean born

1644
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 3: player playing the United splates States and winning a World

1645
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,799
Speaker 3: series with say the New York Mets.

1646
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's just what it is.

1647
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm I'm looking at pictures of this

1648
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 2: photo finish in the ons, so it's so close, and

1649
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 2: so what's interesting about the photo If you look at

1650
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 2: this photo, so they show Noah Lyle's foot on the

1651
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 2: finish line, but the Jamaican runner's lead leg has already

1652
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 2: crossed the finish line. It's just not on the ground.

1653
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: So he actually part of his body is actually across

1654
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 2: the line. So I was always wondering, is it where

1655
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 2: your foot is and it's where your chest is your

1656
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 2: upper body. Yeah, it's because it is that the photo

1657
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 2: finisher show and they have lyles foot on the finish line,

1658
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 2: but if you look down the line, the Jamaican runner's

1659
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 2: extended leg has already crossed the line.

1660
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 3: So I look this up before the Olympics this year

1661
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 3: because I've always been confused, like, why do you see

1662
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 3: when when sprinters or runners are finishing a race shorter

1663
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 3: or long and it's and it feels like it's going

1664
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 3: to be a close finish. Yeah, why do they like

1665
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 3: swing their arms back and push their chest forward. It's

1666
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 3: because your chest when your chest breaks the tape or

1667
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 3: the plane where the finish line is, that's.

1668
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 1: That's who's who's first? Whose ever chest crosses the tape first?

1669
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 2: Well, it has to be because again the Jamaican runner's

1670
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 2: leg as he was striding to the finish line actually

1671
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 2: was the first body part to cross the finish line, right,

1672
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,759
Speaker 2: But he does not win the race. It goes to Lyles,

1673
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: who's I guess his chest was the first part of

1674
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 2: to finish the cross. That was unbelievable finish though. Yeah, crazy, crazy,

1675
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 2: I mean he was down that whole race, and it's

1676
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 2: just you know, we were talking.

1677
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 5: That is the gold medal that now ties us with China.

1678
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 5: So it does we are now caught up. We should

1679
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 5: yet I think seventy I have to go see everything else.

1680
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 5: But last I checked seventy medals and that would have

1681
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:06,719
Speaker 5: made gold medal number nineteen.

1682
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 2: So we have been talking about this as well, Rich,

1683
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 2: the fact that if you go to any any kind

1684
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 2: of metal count on American TV has had the United

1685
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 2: States ahead because they go by total medals. Yeah, but

1686
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 2: if you go to the official Olympic website Olympics dot com,

1687
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 2: they listed in order by gold medals, So China has

1688
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 2: been number one on that list pretty much through these

1689
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:32,839
Speaker 2: entire Olympics, and now.

1690
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 5: Our team USA now on top nineteen gold, seventy one

1691
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 5: medals total.

1692
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: There you go, So there you go. It just you know,

1693
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 2: we were also talking about this, Rich. When you watch

1694
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 2: these athletes at this level, no matter what the sport,

1695
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 2: it just mind blowing, it really is. You know, it's

1696
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:54,759
Speaker 2: mind blowing how far the human body can be pushed.

1697
01:28:55,760 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 2: Were you upset at all by these stories about the

1698
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 2: gender questions in terms of the female boxers. Did that

1699
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 2: story stir you up in any way?

1700
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I think that the reason why the

1701
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 3: Olympics has, or i should say really just about every

1702
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 3: single international body has sanctioned events to you know, have

1703
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 3: it be by gender, is for good reason because somebody

1704
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 3: could get killed. And so I don't know, what the

1705
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 3: outcome is here. I know that somebody with the IOC

1706
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 3: spoke out and said that the and I'm blanking on

1707
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,679
Speaker 3: the name of both of these fighters, but the fighter

1708
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 3: in question was.

1709
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 2: The Algerian fighter was.

1710
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 1: Born a woman.

1711
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 3: Yes, birth certificate says her gender is a woman, has

1712
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 3: always fought, you know, in women's boxing, all those things.

1713
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 3: So I mean, I guess what more can you do

1714
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:01,679
Speaker 3: to prove I other than.

1715
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 2: Well, the fact was is that a year ago in

1716
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 2: another international boxing competition she was decued because or what

1717
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 2: reasons her testosterone levels were too high or something along

1718
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 2: these LUNs.

1719
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: Well, do we know if that's in it? Like is

1720
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:16,839
Speaker 1: that testog?

1721
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 2: They do test Obviously at the Olympic Games we've had,

1722
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 2: she didn't.

1723
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:21,719
Speaker 4: Compete in Tokyo as well.

1724
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 3: So so my my my thought process is you you

1725
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,839
Speaker 3: can be but you can you can be a woman,

1726
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 3: and beyond testosterone, you can you can put yourself on

1727
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:36,480
Speaker 3: performance enhancing drugs. So if you're dqued because your testosterone

1728
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,600
Speaker 3: is too high, but they don't you don't flag for

1729
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 3: any specific cocktail of drugs to create that circumstance. That

1730
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 3: there there's a range that they they consider acceptable and

1731
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 3: if you're beyond that range, well then you'll flag as

1732
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 3: being you know, as enhancing your performance in some way,

1733
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,480
Speaker 3: because there has to be an explanation for your testosterone

1734
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 3: being well.

1735
01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 2: But I mean it is possible. It's there are women

1736
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 2: that have always been women, that are women that just

1737
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:08,919
Speaker 2: naturally have higher testosterol levels than other women. It's also possible.

1738
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 6: It's important to note that this organization that everybody points

1739
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 6: to as the one that you know, ring the alarm

1740
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:16,520
Speaker 6: or whatever, has been discredited.

1741
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah they were discredited.

1742
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 5: It was it was Russian Tide and yeah, yeah, that's

1743
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 5: when it came up.

1744
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 14: I see.

1745
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 3: And so this is this is the the tricky part

1746
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 3: about navigating these storylines. And I really I haven't spoken

1747
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 3: about this at all publicly until today. I mean, nobody's

1748
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 3: asked me about it, and I don't really care to

1749
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 3: really wade in these waters unless asked, because frankly, I

1750
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 3: feel like this gets so political so fast, and people

1751
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 3: get really bent out of shape just based on people's opinions.

1752
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 3: And I don't really think it's it's really much of

1753
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:53,560
Speaker 3: a political discussion. In many ways, I think that sports

1754
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 3: have separated, you know, athletes by gender for a long time.

1755
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 3: I don't see that coming to an end anytime soon,

1756
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 3: and that's for very obvious reasons, you know, I mean,

1757
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 3: there there could be severe consequences if if you if

1758
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 3: you make it like co ed football at the.

1759
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 2: UH, I guess the question would be then moving on.

1760
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent with you on all this, but

1761
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:22,799
Speaker 2: I mean it does come down to this question. Yes,

1762
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 2: about biological males right identifying as female and wanting to

1763
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 2: compete in sports. What's your answer?

1764
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 1: It's so above my pay grade.

1765
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 2: Scene I know I didn't. I don't know what answer.

1766
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 1: What's your answer.

1767
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 2: Unless you have a separate division.

1768
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 3: For let me let me let me ask you an

1769
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 3: easier question. Yes, if if your daughter was a boxer, yes,

1770
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,560
Speaker 3: and she had a fight scheduled against.

1771
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 2: A biological male who who just just for right before

1772
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,640
Speaker 2: the fight, decided to say no, I'm a woman, I

1773
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 2: want to schedule a fight against Paris Heart, I would

1774
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 2: think it would be grossly unfair obviously, So I look,

1775
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 2: I by the way, I've been around the Title nine

1776
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 2: almost from the beginning. I mean Title nine came into

1777
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 2: being at the time I was entering college, and you know,

1778
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 2: so I've been very aware I have obviously known some

1779
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 2: of the great female athletes in history, and I know

1780
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 2: everything they have fought for to get to a certain level.

1781
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 2: But you don't want to exclude anybody from the opportunity, right,

1782
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 2: Isn't that what we're talking about here? Why should anybody

1783
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:42,640
Speaker 2: be excluded?

1784
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 3: Here's my hope, and this is this is one hundred

1785
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:49,600
Speaker 3: percent my thoughts on all of this. My hope is

1786
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 3: we can find a solution. And like I said, it's

1787
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 3: above my pay grade because I haven't thought of a

1788
01:33:55,040 --> 01:34:01,440
Speaker 3: good enough solution yet where sports are inclusive, to include

1789
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 3: every single person, regardless of what gender they claim.

1790
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 1: Or their sexuality, or their race.

1791
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 3: I hate the thought that something that has brought so

1792
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 3: many people together, athletics, sports, you know, is a place

1793
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 3: where some of these very hyper political and personal arguments

1794
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 3: are being waged.

1795
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,799
Speaker 1: There's a purity to sports that I've always loved.

1796
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 3: Your life's confusing, but then when you go on the

1797
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 3: football field, it all seems very simple, you know what

1798
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 3: I mean.

1799
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 1: Your life, Your life could be a wreck at home.

1800
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 3: You may have you know, a mom who's up to

1801
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 3: bad things, you don't have a dad in your life,

1802
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 3: or vice versa.

1803
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 1: You got a dad who's up to bad things.

1804
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 3: You don't have a mom in your life, or maybe

1805
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 3: you have two parents in the home and they're very troubled,

1806
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 3: but you go to the basketball court and life all

1807
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 3: of a sudden makes sense because you find, you know,

1808
01:34:56,920 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, some some level of sanctuary in in sport.

1809
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 3: You know, I know so many athletes who felt like

1810
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 3: I did growing up, where you know, you didn't feel

1811
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 3: like you fit in all that well until you found

1812
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 3: sports in your life. And so for those those athletes

1813
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 3: who are transgendered and who are looking for home in sports,

1814
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 3: I hope that they're at some point and sooner rather

1815
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 3: than later, there's a a agreeable decision made to make

1816
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 3: everybody feel like they fit in and that they can

1817
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 3: they can perform, and that this is no longer a

1818
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 3: political football and no longer an issue.

1819
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 2: You want audition without subtraction, exactly correct, and as look at.

1820
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:42,719
Speaker 2: You don't want to take away from somebody else's dream

1821
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 2: and order for your dream to be achieved, everyone should

1822
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 2: have the equal opportunity, all right. Coming up on the

1823
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 2: other side, we got a lot of big baseball news.

1824
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 2: We got to get to some history being made around

1825
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball our insider John Paul Morosi will join us.

1826
01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harman and Rich Armburger

1827
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. We are alive from the ti iraq

1828
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 2: dot com studios. All right, let's get to it right now.

1829
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 2: Johnny says he does every single week to break down

1830
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 2: everything on the Major League baseball scene. Our dear friend,

1831
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 2: the great John Paul Morosi is Johnny us right now. JP.

1832
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 2: I got to start with a guy that Rich and

1833
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:22,759
Speaker 2: I got to know when he first came to San Diego.

1834
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 2: We instantly fell in love with this guy who loved

1835
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 2: his personality, the way he talked and everything else. Talking

1836
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 2: about Blake Snell. And a week ago we were talking

1837
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 2: about Blake Snell as a hot commodity on the trade market.

1838
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 2: He did not get traded. He stayed with the Giants

1839
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 2: and then promptly threw a no hitter. And it was

1840
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 2: a deceiving headline saying he'd thrown his first no hitter. Okay, yeah,

1841
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 2: it was also the first complete game of his career,

1842
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:49,519
Speaker 2: his two hundred and second career major league started. And oh,

1843
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 2: by the way, it's the first time that he'd ever

1844
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 2: even completed eight full innings in his career. So here's

1845
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 2: a guy that had two Cy Young Awards before he

1846
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 2: actually had his first complete game. And I'm thinking about

1847
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 2: this right now. Can you ever see a day because

1848
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 2: the idea of too many innings is bad for pitchers

1849
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:12,639
Speaker 2: seems to go out the window because it just seems

1850
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 2: like we have more pitchers hurt than ever before. I

1851
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 2: mean the Dodgers alone, I mean we have pictures going

1852
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 2: on the il every single day. It seems like a

1853
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 2: Major League baseball and the idea of trying to save

1854
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:30,639
Speaker 2: them don't throw as many innings. I don't buy it.

1855
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 2: I don't think there's there's the information to back it up.

1856
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 2: And Blake Snell obviously was you know, pretty you know,

1857
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 2: outspoken saying, you know this idea that I'm a six

1858
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 2: inning pitcher, Come on, give me that opportunity. Can you

1859
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 2: ever see the day when a complete game will not

1860
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:52,760
Speaker 2: be like we've had what seven or eight teams going

1861
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 2: entire season without a complete game? Will we ever see

1862
01:37:56,400 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 2: the return of starting pitchers regain the mindset of going

1863
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:01,600
Speaker 2: nine innings.

1864
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 14: It's a great question, Steve, and good afternoon. As always,

1865
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 14: I always look forward to this conversation every week. It's

1866
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 14: to me, we have gone too far in the direction

1867
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 14: of heavily curating innings and restricting innings for it to

1868
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 14: ever bounce back to what it was before I was

1869
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 14: even thinking. This goes back basically only a decade. I

1870
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:29,599
Speaker 14: was in Detroit, Derek Scoogle through a brilliant performance against

1871
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 14: the Minnesota Twins. It was, I believe the seventh time

1872
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 14: this year that he had gone seven innings with two

1873
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:38,600
Speaker 14: or fewer earned runs. That was pretty good. That's a

1874
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 14: high quality start. Seven innings to ear and runs. And

1875
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 14: I said, wow, seven, that's a pretty good number in

1876
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 14: these days. And I said, I wonder where that ranks

1877
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 14: in recent Tigers history. I went back and realized that

1878
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 14: when Verlander his peak was at his peak back in

1879
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 14: early twenty tens, he had multiple years in which he

1880
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:59,799
Speaker 14: had done that eighteen or nineteen times. Think about that,

1881
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:04,639
Speaker 14: just like twelve years ago. So it's changed that much.

1882
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 14: And even you go back and look at the number

1883
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 14: of complete games. I remember a day when the Great,

1884
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 14: when the Great Royal Halliday was pitching for Toronto and

1885
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 14: then Philly, he was going complete games routinely. It just

1886
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:20,600
Speaker 14: doesn't happen anymore, and I think in fairness and Blake acknowledges,

1887
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 14: I think it was maybe an interview with ESPN the

1888
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:25,160
Speaker 14: night of his no hitter, he said, basically, in fairness

1889
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 14: to his teams and his managers who have often taken

1890
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 14: him out in the sixth or seventh inning or before that,

1891
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:34,560
Speaker 14: he said, look, I'm a strikeout pitcher, and so strikeouts

1892
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 14: take a lot of time. And I think that was

1893
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 14: when you talk about Halliday or Verlander. Why they were

1894
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 14: so great is that they were often available to be

1895
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 14: economical enough early in the game to still have their

1896
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 14: good stuff late in the game and continue to be

1897
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 14: their team's best option in the seventh inning or in

1898
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 14: the eighth inning. And that, I think is how the

1899
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 14: game has changed. Just that pitchers are max effort, max zlo,

1900
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 14: max spin, which results in you being more tired later

1901
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 14: and indeed also earlier in games, but also the way

1902
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 14: that teams are designed with the max sling and miss

1903
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 14: late in the ballgame, a manager is more lifely to say, yeah,

1904
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 14: I realize you're still a really good pitcher, but my

1905
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 14: seventh inning guy is now throwing one hundred and one

1906
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 14: with the slider from from just the great beyond that

1907
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 14: we just we can't. We can't get any better. Options

1908
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 14: have gotten out right now in the seventh inning. So

1909
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 14: I think that, to me is part of It's not

1910
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 14: just the starting pitchers and the way they're trained, but

1911
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 14: just the way that managers look at the game and

1912
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 14: what they've gotten the seventh inning. Increasingly, I think that

1913
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 14: if pitchers were trained different way, I think this is

1914
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 14: probably the biggest point of all. If they were trained

1915
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 14: different way from the time they were thirteen fourteen years

1916
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:55,639
Speaker 14: old to college ball to minor league baseball, if they

1917
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:58,679
Speaker 14: were hearing from everybody, listen, the way to get paid

1918
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 14: is to be efficient and to throw in the low

1919
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 14: nineties and get weak contact and trust your defense and

1920
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:09,799
Speaker 14: throw seven or eight innings. If that was the message

1921
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 14: they were getting, they would do that instead amateur baseball,

1922
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 14: picking travel teams, picking college teams, drafting players, handing out contracts.

1923
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 14: They say to you, throw it as hard as you can,

1924
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 14: and we'll give you a contract. And that's how you

1925
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 14: get someone like Glass, not who I like a lot tyler,

1926
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:32,759
Speaker 14: but he got that massive deal with the Dodger without

1927
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 14: ever having to throw one hundred and seventy innings in

1928
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 14: the season because the arm is that great and people say, wow,

1929
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 14: they're just fascinated by the stuff. And that's the way

1930
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 14: teams are being run now. I'm not saying it's good,

1931
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:44,439
Speaker 14: batter and different, but that's just the current reality of

1932
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 14: the game. And it's not allowing pitchers to learn how

1933
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 14: to throw the way that Halliday and Verlander did. And

1934
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 14: by the way, that wasn't when TVs are black and white. Okay,

1935
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 14: that was like the recent history, and I think it's

1936
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:58,960
Speaker 14: important for teams and players to realize that you can

1937
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 14: still have success in that older school way, the way

1938
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 14: that for example Seth Lugo is doing right now with

1939
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:05,640
Speaker 14: the Kansas City Royals.

1940
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 1: JP.

1941
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 3: Taking a look at teams prospects down the second half

1942
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:14,600
Speaker 3: and really the final third of this season. I'm not

1943
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:17,720
Speaker 3: going to ask you the great the trade deadline or

1944
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:21,639
Speaker 3: tell me who won, but based on need, which teams

1945
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 3: do you think did the best job of addressing those

1946
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:27,719
Speaker 3: needs and you feel like they are stocked and ready

1947
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 3: for bear for this final push.

1948
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 14: The Seattle Mariners, they were finally able to address that

1949
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 14: offense and it did not take a Vladimer Guerrero Junior.

1950
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 14: It took a Ranti Rosarina and to Justin Turner, and

1951
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 14: just with a couple of more bats, it looks like

1952
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 14: a much different team. And they were able to beat

1953
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:48,720
Speaker 14: Philly last night, come back and win that ball game,

1954
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:52,599
Speaker 14: a huge win for Seattle. They've played really well over

1955
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:54,560
Speaker 14: the last week. And again it's a small sample, but

1956
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:57,879
Speaker 14: rich to your point, sometimes the right movement the deadline

1957
01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 14: can really get a team on the right I think

1958
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 14: it's certainly been the case for the Seattle managers. Listen

1959
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,759
Speaker 14: the San Diego Padres. You both watch them very closely.

1960
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 14: They have quietly over the last couple months made this

1961
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 14: a really interesting season, and they're now right on the

1962
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:16,560
Speaker 14: heels of the Dodgers. I think this. You know, a

1963
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 14: lot of teams are looking at grading the deadline and saying, well,

1964
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,679
Speaker 14: the Padres went heavily in the bullpen with Scott and Adam,

1965
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 14: and that's true, but I actually include the cease and

1966
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 14: Arayas deals with this for the grading purposes. I look

1967
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 14: at it as being it's not just the last week

1968
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 14: of July, but rather from the time you report to

1969
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:39,440
Speaker 14: spring training to now is almost like an extended trade deadline.

1970
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 14: And they've been very busy since the beginning, and listen,

1971
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 14: I love that about Aj Prother. He doesn't always make

1972
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:48,879
Speaker 14: the right moves, but he makes moves. He keeps things interesting,

1973
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 14: and I think that for Padre fans, you think about

1974
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 14: the way the season began and the loss of the

1975
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 14: amazing owner, Peter Sither, and what everything he's done, I

1976
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 14: think that it's it really has been a great tribute

1977
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 14: to him that Aj has kept trying to improve this team,

1978
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 14: and it's been a little bit of a different way

1979
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 14: of building. You look at the way the Dodgers went

1980
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 14: heavily into starting pitching last offseason. The pottery is maybe

1981
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:13,719
Speaker 14: a different approach, but look at how that it's worked

1982
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 14: out in there right now in a tremendous position, I think,

1983
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 14: to make a run of the playoff spot.

1984
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:21,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Diamondbacks aren't far behind. They're also playing

1985
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:23,920
Speaker 2: some pretty good baseball right now. I mean, can you

1986
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 2: imagine if both the Potterys and the Diamondbacks were over

1987
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 2: to take the Dodgers. Now, the good news, obviously for

1988
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 2: the Dodgers is they're gonna get Mookie Bits back. You know,

1989
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 2: they're you know, they're hoping that Yamamoto. He guess he's doing.

1990
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 2: Some throwing is gonna come back. They're gonna get some

1991
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 2: bits and pieces back. But the Kershaw return doesn't look promising,

1992
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 2: and it's almost like, once again, this Dodger team that

1993
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 2: invested over a billion dollars in new contracts finds itself

1994
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 2: in a very similar situation to last year unless they

1995
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 2: can actually get three healthy, effective starting pitchers ready for

1996
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 2: a postseason one.

1997
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 14: It is amazing that a team with these kinds of

1998
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 14: resources is still in this situation. There are basically twenty

1999
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 14: nine other teams that do not have the resources the

2000
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 14: Dodgers do. And you could argue the Yankees I suppose

2001
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 14: to do on some level, and the Mets, but it's

2002
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 14: a small group of people, and there are a lot

2003
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 14: of teams out there with much lower levels of pitching resources,

2004
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 14: of financial resources. Let's say, who have a better pitching

2005
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:32,960
Speaker 14: picture right now than the Dodgers do. And let's be honest.

2006
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:37,280
Speaker 14: The last two postseasons, the Dodgers are one and six.

2007
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:38,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, one and six.

2008
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 14: And we can argue about the format and say that

2009
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:42,760
Speaker 14: there were teams that were hot that came in and

2010
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:45,480
Speaker 14: the Padres beat them two years ago, and the Diamondbacks

2011
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 14: beat them last year, but I think that that's a

2012
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 14: little bit over stating things there. This is a team

2013
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:56,440
Speaker 14: that has just simply not been able to develop consistent,

2014
01:45:56,680 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 14: healthy pitching. And the one year in which they won

2015
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 14: it was the year where they didn't really have to

2016
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 14: have a starting pitching staff for one sixty two is

2017
01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:07,599
Speaker 14: for sixty and the full creds to then for winning

2018
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 14: it that year. But I think that that might tell

2019
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:12,599
Speaker 14: us something about the way this team has been built.

2020
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 14: It's for the sprint, and they're not able to necessarily

2021
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 14: keep these guys healthy for seven months, and maybe it's

2022
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 14: because they're drawn to the hard throwers that our max

2023
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 14: fin max below and break down whatever it is. At

2024
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 14: some point in time, guys, they're going to have to

2025
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 14: win the World Series to quiet the critics. That's it,

2026
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 14: and they've had every resource and it would be I

2027
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 14: think for them a huge disappointment if in the first

2028
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 14: year of Yamamoto and Otani, if they can't get there now.

2029
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:44,880
Speaker 14: They may quickly say and be fair the Labotani on

2030
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 14: the mountain next year, and that's that's true, But for

2031
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 14: this team right now, I am concerned. I am concerned

2032
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:54,599
Speaker 14: about where the rotation is going to be. They did

2033
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:57,719
Speaker 14: bring in Jack Flaherty. He pitched really well on his Dodgers' debut,

2034
01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 14: which is wonderful to see and certainly I'm rooting for him.

2035
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 14: It is a really, really tough time right now for

2036
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 14: the Dodgers to see what that playoff rotation will be,

2037
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 14: let alone, what the rotation is going to be in

2038
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 14: the middle of August.

2039
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly where the line of demarcation for

2040
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 3: the New York Yankees is in terms of expectations, But

2041
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 3: for the Dodgers, a lot of people are still on this,

2042
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:20,960
Speaker 3: Hey it's World Series or bus based on the amount

2043
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:25,080
Speaker 3: of financial commitments they made this offseason. I'm gonna ask

2044
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 3: you a question, but it's about both of these teams.

2045
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:32,520
Speaker 3: If expectations aren't met with the Dodgers and the Yankees

2046
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 3: this postseason, or heavens forbid, they should miss the postseason,

2047
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:40,719
Speaker 3: what do you think will be the result, like whose

2048
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:45,280
Speaker 3: jobs are in jeopardy? What will be the almost like

2049
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 3: the blood tax at the front office or the field

2050
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 3: level that you think we'll see as a result of

2051
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:54,720
Speaker 3: underperforming expectations for these two franchises.

2052
01:47:55,160 --> 01:48:00,200
Speaker 14: The great question with the Dodgers, I just cannot imagine.

2053
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 14: I cannot fathom Dave Roberts not being their manager next

2054
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:08,599
Speaker 14: year now if they fully missed the postseason. I think

2055
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 14: in either case, the Yankees or Dodgers, I suppose that

2056
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:15,479
Speaker 14: anything is possible, but there's no way. And this is

2057
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 14: Dave Roberts has given year after year pitchers who break

2058
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 14: down flirty. I believe it's somewhere now in the mid

2059
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:25,840
Speaker 14: teams of the number of starny pitchers of the Dodgers

2060
01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:28,719
Speaker 14: have had to use this year. That's not Dave Roberts' fault,

2061
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:32,920
Speaker 14: no chance. And I just think that he connects so well.

2062
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 14: He's built the trust now with show as you think

2063
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 14: about the Freddie Freeman in situation with his son and

2064
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 14: prayers for young maximiths that he's back to full health soon.

2065
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:44,719
Speaker 14: Of course Freddie hoping, hoping to rejoin the team tomorrow,

2066
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 14: so let's hope that that's the case. But the trust

2067
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 14: that Dave has built with show A and Freddie and Mookie,

2068
01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 14: that is really important. And I cannot imagine that anybody

2069
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:58,880
Speaker 14: would do better than what Dave Roberts has done. And

2070
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 14: when if the if the pitchers are breaking down, it's

2071
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:06,600
Speaker 14: not Dave Roberts fault. There's no chance now the Yankees.

2072
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 14: I similarly, I am a I am an Aaron Boone

2073
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 14: supporter here with a lot of the things that he's done,

2074
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:17,840
Speaker 14: and you think about this team and he benches labor

2075
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 14: tours the other day, and he deserved it. He's had

2076
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:24,560
Speaker 14: to find a way to make this team work with

2077
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 14: with le Mage and not being able to really be

2078
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:29,759
Speaker 14: the player that he once was. Rizzo was hurt again.

2079
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 14: They've been so reliant on the two big guys, Judge

2080
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 14: and Soto. Again. I find it's very difficult to blame

2081
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 14: Aaron Boone if anything. I think with the Yankees it

2082
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 14: might be the front office having to pay some tax

2083
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:47,760
Speaker 14: one way, shape or form. But with the Dodgers, you

2084
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 14: look at it. They just less than a year ago,

2085
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:53,439
Speaker 14: they spent a billion dollars on two players, and I

2086
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 14: just cannot imagine that the Dodger ownership would say, yeah,

2087
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 14: I realized we trusted you to spend a bill million

2088
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 14: dollars last year, but we no longer trust you now.

2089
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 14: I just I don't see that happening either. It's it's

2090
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 14: just a it's a riddle. If anything, the Dodgers have

2091
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 14: to find a way to bring in and or develop

2092
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 14: pitchers who do not get hurt as often. It's it's

2093
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 14: it is both a simple and very complicated question, but

2094
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:22,280
Speaker 14: they have got to find a better answer for what

2095
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 14: the reality has been for them.

2096
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 2: Well, I know some Dodger fans are frustrated, but it

2097
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:27,760
Speaker 2: could be worse. They could be White Sox fans. They

2098
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 2: look like they're on their way. There their twentieth straight loss,

2099
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 2: the modern record twenty three straight losses by the sixty

2100
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 2: one Phillies. Next week we may be talking about a

2101
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:40,120
Speaker 2: record setting White Sox team. JP, great stuff as always,

2102
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. We'll talk to you next week.

2103
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 14: Tells me my friends always enjoy it, and and pretty

2104
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 14: soon we'll have a little big ten football to talk

2105
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 14: about as well, which I cannot. Well, I'll be I'll

2106
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 14: be in Central PA for the Little League World Series

2107
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:55,080
Speaker 14: as I oft and am so ill. I'll be calling

2108
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 14: you guys on my on my journey back from there.

2109
01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 14: How about that.

2110
01:50:57,560 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 2: We always appreciate JP. Thanks so much, all about you too,

2111
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:04,040
Speaker 2: John Paul Morosi, Johnny us there all right, quickly, Now

2112
01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:06,840
Speaker 2: let's find out what is a trending. She had to

2113
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 2: wait a while, but We're finally there.

2114
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 1: It's okay.

2115
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 9: I'm watching women's beach volleyball. I'm not upset about anything.

2116
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 2: Well, I'm never upset about watching right these ladies.

2117
01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:18,880
Speaker 10: I mean, I'm just saying, like, I'm so jealous that

2118
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 10: they could jump that high on the sand. Ye, not

2119
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 10: in a gym, but on this sand where I.

2120
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 9: Just get stuck.

2121
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:28,760
Speaker 10: USA is playing Italia Italy. They won the first set

2122
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 10: and in the second set, Italia Chris like that is

2123
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 10: currently up fourteen to nine against the USA. This is

2124
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 10: the round of sixteen in the women's beach of volleyball.

2125
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 10: Earlier today at the Olympics, Scotti Scheffler won the gold

2126
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 10: women's basketball.

2127
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 9: Defeated Germany eighty seven to sixty eight.

2128
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:46,360
Speaker 10: Novak Djokovic won his first gold medal in tennis at

2129
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 10: the age of thirty seven, defeating Carlos outcraz and then

2130
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:50,840
Speaker 10: Noah Lyles.

2131
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:55,720
Speaker 9: It was an absolute photo finish. Nobody knew who won.

2132
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 15: We thought it was gonna take ninety seven to win.

2133
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 15: Guess what, you just like a nine point seven eight.

2134
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:20,879
Speaker 15: But it was a lead at the tape by Thompson. Visually,

2135
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 15: we think he got it. They're working on the photo

2136
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:28,480
Speaker 15: Fred Charley pushed him all the way.

2137
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 10: NBC Television on the call, they did not think Noah

2138
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:35,439
Speaker 10: Lyles got it. They thought the Jamaican runner got it.

2139
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:38,720
Speaker 10: But Noah Lyles wins it in eight what is it?

2140
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:42,600
Speaker 10: Fifth of a one thousand and seconds? Like ridiculous, Like

2141
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 10: just absolutely ridiculous. The first American to winkled in the

2142
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:48,680
Speaker 10: one hundred meters sprint since two thousand and four. Now

2143
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:50,640
Speaker 10: in baseball, the Yankees did tie the game at home

2144
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 10: against the Blue Jays is three three. They're on a

2145
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 10: rain delay. In the bottom of the eighth inning. The

2146
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:57,960
Speaker 10: Diamondbacks are still on top of the Pirates. Is officially over.

2147
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:00,679
Speaker 10: Six ' five was the final score. The false Skeins

2148
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 10: out of the game and the Diamondbacks.

2149
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 9: Took the lead.

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Speaker 10: The Orioles are beating the Guardians nine to five. Top

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Speaker 10: of the ninth inning. The Twins are still on top

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Speaker 10: of the White Sox. As you mentioned, nineteen in a

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Speaker 10: row four at the Chicago Who that's how many they've lost.

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Speaker 9: Eight five is the score.

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Speaker 10: Bottom up the seventh inning in Minnesota, the Ras are

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Speaker 10: beating the Astros one zero. It's over. They have beat

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Speaker 10: the Astros one zero. The Red Sox up on the

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Speaker 10: Rangers six to two. Bottom up the seventh, the Dodgers

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Speaker 10: and the As are tied at to a piece in Oakland.

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Speaker 10: Bottom of the second Mets up on the Angels one zero.

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Speaker 9: The Phillies.

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Speaker 10: They've lost six in a row, but right now they're

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Speaker 10: beating the Mariners one zero thanks to Kyle Schwarber with

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Speaker 10: the lead off shot. The Giants officially beat the Reds

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Speaker 10: eight to two, and the Marlins all over. The Brave

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Speaker 10: seven zero Nationals edged the Brewers four to three. The

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Speaker 10: Royals came back to beat the Tigers three to two.

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Speaker 2: for you. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin, Rich

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Speaker 2: Horberger Fox Sports Sunday Live from the tai Iraq dot

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Speaker 2: com studios. We want to thank the best supporting crew

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Speaker 2: on the planet, Montsey doing the updates, Chris on the board,

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Speaker 2: our esteam producer Bow putting it all together. So we

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Speaker 2: do every Sunday here on Fox Sports Radio. As I

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Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, a couple of weeks, we're going to get

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Speaker 2: ready for some Red Zone radio when things really step

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Speaker 2: up a notch. You know, I was talking to Chris

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Speaker 2: here during the break. He is on his second energy

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Speaker 2: drink of the day and I told him, and you

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Speaker 2: know this about me, Rich, I can't drink any of

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01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 2: that stuff. Oh, Like, I'm a very naturally wired guy.

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Speaker 2: I just run hot. Rich on the other hand, puts

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Speaker 2: fuel in his body. Wow. And I just want to

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Speaker 2: make a little acknowledgment. I don't want to get into

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Speaker 2: all the details, but my dear friend rich Ornberger is

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Speaker 2: about to embark on one of the greatest Well of

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01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 2: greatest is the wrong word. One of the busiest football

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01:55:56,720 --> 01:56:01,280
Speaker 2: schedules of any media member that I've ever known. And

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Speaker 2: I've kept some pretty busy schedules Rich, as you know,

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Speaker 2: some pretty crazy where I've been questioned about my sanity

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Speaker 2: and I have to acknowledge, like, you've gone next level. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to be there to support you throughout

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Speaker 2: this entire football season.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It is, even by my standards, a level of sanity insanity,

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Speaker 2: But if anyone can do it, it's rich Ormberger. So

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Speaker 2: I wish you all the best this fall.

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Speaker 1: I certainly appreciate that.

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01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, for anybody who's curious as to what he's talking about,

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Speaker 3: we debuted a new morning show in San Diego, and

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Speaker 3: so I'll be doing a classic rock show and a

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Speaker 3: sports show on two different stations mornings and Middays, and

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Speaker 3: then over the weekends. Obviously I work here Saturday mornings

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Speaker 3: and Sunday mornings on Fox Sports Radio Countdown to Kickoff

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01:56:56,920 --> 01:57:00,160
Speaker 3: and then Red Zone Radio with Steve on Sundays. But

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Speaker 3: then also Saturdays I call football games for the San

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Speaker 3: Diego State Aztecs, and Sunday nights I work as a

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Speaker 3: sports analyst for NBC seven in San Diego covering the NFL.

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Speaker 3: So it should kill me, and if it does, it's

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Speaker 3: been a successful journey.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, you are a man that

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Speaker 2: enjoys a cup of coffee once in a while every hour,

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Speaker 2: energy drinks or whatever. I mean, do you feel like

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Speaker 2: you have to pace yourself with that kind of schedule?

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Speaker 2: I mean, by the way, also adding to this, as

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Speaker 2: you mentioned your you could be on the road half

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Speaker 2: the season obviously with San Diego State football, and then

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Speaker 2: you travel from San Diego to Los Angeles. So we

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Speaker 2: sit side by side for Red Zone Radio. It's just

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Speaker 2: a little easier for us to navigate, you know, ten

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Speaker 2: games simultaneously when we're sitting next to each other. And

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Speaker 2: then you go back to San Diego, do your TV stuff.

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01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 2: So does this affect your intake of energy drinks?

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01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? You could.

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Speaker 3: You could argue that energy drinks and coffee and just

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Speaker 3: anything caffeine based is going to be near or around

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Speaker 3: me at all times.

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Speaker 4: They Rich's favorite energy drink the brand?

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Speaker 1: Then, Oh wow, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Because like it's it's I would love to say for

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Speaker 5: me it's Red Bull, but obviously red Bull is like

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Speaker 5: the most expensive one.

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Speaker 4: But I'm sucking down these full throttles right now.

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Speaker 6: So you know what though, honestly, Rich doesn't sound busy

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Speaker 6: enough to me, So I think we need to start

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Speaker 6: like a CFL podcast or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do a podcast, maybe YouTube channel, and.

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Speaker 4: How about watching some tape on O line guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Somebody recently asked me if I could help them with something,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, gosh, I was like, that is

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Speaker 3: uh I I just don't know if I could find

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Speaker 3: any time.

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Speaker 1: They're like, well, listen, it is just one hour of.

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Speaker 3: Work a week and there, and and I was like, well,

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Speaker 3: let me just tell you the reason why I'm saying that.

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Speaker 3: And I just rolled out the same list of things

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Speaker 3: responsibilities and they're like, oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you you have zero time never mind. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's right.

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Speaker 2: And he has a kindergartener now and a third grader. Go, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so they don't require any attention.

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Speaker 1: No, no, they've been self sufficient.

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Speaker 16: I mean they just don't even They wake up, they shave,

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Speaker 16: they take themselves to school, and it's been easy. Yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 16: it's it's a good life.

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Speaker 3: And trust me, I had two parents who worked around

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Speaker 3: the clock grown up, and they they didn't have nearly

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Speaker 3: as much fun as I get to have, especially during

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Speaker 3: the fall.

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Speaker 1: I am so looking forward to the football.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know, and obviously our focus on Sundays is

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Speaker 2: NFL football. But to me, this college football season, which

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01:59:47,320 --> 01:59:51,040
Speaker 2: we're turning into a completely different page than we've ever

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Speaker 2: seen in the history of college football. Oh dude, I

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01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 2: mean with the you know, the expansion of the Big

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Speaker 2: Ten Conference, the complete dismantling of the PAC twelve, Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: Texas going into the SEC. By the way, they were

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Speaker 2: showing Katie Ladecai, who won the gold medal again she

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Speaker 2: went to Stanford. ACC is running her picture because Stanford's

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Speaker 2: in the ACC right now. They're like the pride of

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Speaker 2: the ACC. Katie Ladeci of Stanford. I'm like, wow, Wow.

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Speaker 1: It's a whole new world, believe.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's gonna be great, all right. Well, we'll

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Speaker 2: have more football to get to next week, obviously, rich,

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Speaker 2: but pace yourself. That's all I can say, my friend,

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Speaker 2: pay yourself because we had a long way to go.

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02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:35,920
Speaker 2: We got a lot coming up here. Just stay here.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio.