Speaker 1: I found your videos like three months ago, and you
Speaker 1: all you offered some hope for the despair that I
Speaker 1: felt in l A. I mean, maybe not the worst place.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe New York City might have been worse,
Speaker 1: but l A has been pretty bad. So that's kind
Speaker 1: of what you're talking about, people getting their power turned
Speaker 1: off for having people at their house or something. The
Speaker 1: problems with liberalism, but I hadn't lived long enough to
Speaker 1: see them enacted in the world to understand the problems
Speaker 1: with things like too much regulation from the government or
Speaker 1: just just too big of government in general. The world
Speaker 1: has been moving to this totalitarian system for a long time,
Speaker 1: right that that's the trend. And you know China has
Speaker 1: their social credit system and all of that going on.
Speaker 1: How is that fair to people who have negotiated their
Speaker 1: rate to work at and now you're devaluing their labor.
Speaker 1: I didn't elect you to do that. Yeah. I became
Speaker 1: a goldbug in like two thousand eight, after the Great
Speaker 1: Financial Crash. Then I realized it wasn't so much a goldbug.
Speaker 1: I was more of a sound money advocate. Hey everyone,
Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of The Market Disruptor Show. And
Speaker 1: today I am sitting down with Jessica Vaughan. Um. She
Speaker 1: is a new entrant into the bitcoin space and she
Speaker 1: is disrupting things at a pretty rapid scale. UM. It's
Speaker 1: been pretty amazing to see this transition that she's had,
Speaker 1: and UM, she has such amazing insights. UM, and I
Speaker 1: just wanted to bring her on and share it with
Speaker 1: the world. So I'm not gonna go into too much.
Speaker 1: Let's just go ahead and walk around. Jessica, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining today. Thanks for having me. Alright, So, UM, yeah,
Speaker 1: you've you've kind of stormed the scene. You started throwing
Speaker 1: rocks at the fed. Got a lot of attraction that way. UM,
Speaker 1: and you've been you have this interesting perspective, and I
Speaker 1: want to bring this on so a lot of more
Speaker 1: people can kind of hear about this. You you have
Speaker 1: just made the comment about, you know, save yourself and
Speaker 1: then save other people, and so, um, let's dive into that.
Speaker 1: Before we do, maybe just kind of give us a
Speaker 1: quick rundown. Um, you're you're hot on the scene. Where'd
Speaker 1: you come from and what are you doing well? Um?
Speaker 1: I have been a model for about a decade now,
Speaker 1: live live in Hollywood, do production all the time. Different
Speaker 1: roles in Hollywood. So so that's been fun. But then
Speaker 1: the shutdowns came, so that's interrupted my life a little bit,
Speaker 1: a little a lot of it for sure. But you know,
Speaker 1: did did some magazines, notably Playboy, f HM, maxim those
Speaker 1: types of publications. So now just sort of carrying my
Speaker 1: brand forward, trying to adapt to a new world that's
Speaker 1: interest in you know, n F T s. And of
Speaker 1: course A bought bitcoin about two weeks ago. So I
Speaker 1: found your videos like three months ago, and you all
Speaker 1: you offered some hope for the despair that I felt
Speaker 1: about um changes in our country, in our world. So um,
Speaker 1: I wanted to give bitcoin a chance because it's one
Speaker 1: thing that's felt productive to me moving forward because everything else,
Speaker 1: the understanding the reality of what's happening, brought me a
Speaker 1: lot of depressions. So bitcoin was the first thing that
Speaker 1: felt productive that I could have done about it, and
Speaker 1: I felt like I was doing anything that was constructive
Speaker 1: for myself at all. So yeah, so what I want
Speaker 1: to dig into that because I want to tell that story.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so you got in about two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I think you used my ref link with Swan, so
Speaker 1: Swan Bitcoin and myself. We got you. We orange pilled
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Speaker 1: of have this story where you kind of had, like,
Speaker 1: as you said, like the Tale of two mothers, right,
Speaker 1: so you kind of had this worldview that might have
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Speaker 1: So check them out. But maybe I'm more liberal or
Speaker 1: left worldview and maybe more have kind of seen things,
Speaker 1: started to see things differently. Now, Um, you've said something
Speaker 1: before that like, Um, once you see these things, you
Speaker 1: can't un see them. Like what started to change? Was
Speaker 1: it like the lockdowns that then started having you see
Speaker 1: different things? Or like what was the things that you've
Speaker 1: seen that you can't unsee? Yes, I was very much
Speaker 1: a team liberal for all of my voting life. Um,
Speaker 1: there were I always had an open ear to what
Speaker 1: conservatives said about the problems with liberalism, but I hadn't
Speaker 1: lived long enough to see them enacted in the world
Speaker 1: to understand the problems with things like too much regulation
Speaker 1: from the government or just just too big of government
Speaker 1: in general. But the shutdowns in l A really made
Speaker 1: me see that UM is somebody that worked in the
Speaker 1: gig economy space, UM for freelance production in Hollywood. Um
Speaker 1: it halted. It halted my income entirely, with no opportunity,
Speaker 1: no explanation, And here we are a year later, it's
Speaker 1: the same situation. So it's it was a shock. It
Speaker 1: was a shock to see everything that the other side
Speaker 1: had told me about and then I got to see
Speaker 1: it then that they were turning people's waters water off,
Speaker 1: and power if they were having guess at their house,
Speaker 1: and just just definitely all the problems with government overreach.
Speaker 1: I got to see it front row. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: think you said, are we talked about, but I mean
Speaker 1: you're in Los Angeles. So my my previous home state
Speaker 1: in California, and uh, and we were kind of talking
Speaker 1: about offline. I mean California was kind of ground zero, right,
Speaker 1: so in l A. I mean maybe not the worst place.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe New York City might have been worse,
Speaker 1: but l A has been pretty bad. So that's kind
Speaker 1: of what you're talking about, people getting their power turned
Speaker 1: off for having people at their house or something. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's been three times, you know, marches for various
Speaker 1: causes outside the door, and you don't really necessarily want
Speaker 1: to be front, front and center for all this stuff,
Speaker 1: but but it is accelerated, changing me more than other
Speaker 1: states and other people that I think would be less
Speaker 1: effective other than New York. Like you said, yeah, so
Speaker 1: it happened to me quickly, but I think it will
Speaker 1: happen to more Americans over time when they see the
Speaker 1: consequences of these changes. Yeah, so then you start to
Speaker 1: see like the government overreach and you start to see
Speaker 1: you know, as you said, like shutting, locking people down,
Speaker 1: turning off their power, um, taking away their ability to
Speaker 1: earn money, things like that. Um. And then I could
Speaker 1: see that you were starting to get like pretty unhappy
Speaker 1: voicing that that that anger. Um. But then like what
Speaker 1: do you do about it? Right? So then like you
Speaker 1: see all the problems, but the political system is way
Speaker 1: too big? What are you gonna do about it? Um?
Speaker 1: And I think maybe I guess what what was your
Speaker 1: what were thoughts there? At some point you said that
Speaker 1: like my video started to bring a little bit of hope.
Speaker 1: But I guess before that, like we're you just thinking like, man,
Speaker 1: this system is just so big, there's no way to
Speaker 1: change this. What am I gonna do? I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: talk about it, or or you just had no hope.
Speaker 1: I guess well, I I pretty much immediately I started
Speaker 1: speaking out about it, and um, UM. If anybody's observed this,
Speaker 1: they'll they'll know when when you are a liberal and
Speaker 1: you have a diverging opinion, you get spit out of
Speaker 1: the machine really quickly. You know. Um, so I got
Speaker 1: to experience what that was like loose some friends, lose
Speaker 1: some family, lose some you know, clients, that type of thing.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, we come from a country
Speaker 1: of free speech, you know, and so I didn't. So
Speaker 1: that accelerated the understanding of what you know, cancel culture
Speaker 1: was and why I am for rejecting that. So I'm
Speaker 1: I did about the opportunity going forward to have an
Speaker 1: economy where we don't do that to each other. If
Speaker 1: mainstream is going to do that, then we look out
Speaker 1: for each other because we do support free speech. So um,
Speaker 1: bitcoin was another opportunity to implement that and feel productive
Speaker 1: about what what I was doing. So yeah, yeah, Like
Speaker 1: what the heck happened? Right? Like we used to be
Speaker 1: able to like talk about things like be open, especially
Speaker 1: being in Hollywood, I mean, and you can't talk about
Speaker 1: anything that might be deemed conservative or against that that
Speaker 1: liberal mindsets. Crazy how things and how fast things have
Speaker 1: shifted like that. Well, and so many people have messaged
Speaker 1: me behind the scenes and said, hey, I work in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, but I'm not allowed to diverge
Speaker 1: from the mainstream opinion in this way without you know,
Speaker 1: serious consequences. So I decided that was all crazy, and
Speaker 1: so I doubled down more on you know, saying what
Speaker 1: I believe is true and obvious to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: They just are willing to have the backbone. So if
Speaker 1: I might not have a lot of sense, but I
Speaker 1: got a lot of backbones, So well that's good. You
Speaker 1: make up for a backbone. It's been crazy, um to
Speaker 1: see how fast like those even like you said, friends
Speaker 1: and whatnot, family relationships can dissolve. Um, I guess COVID
Speaker 1: has been an accelerant on everything. And uh, I mean
Speaker 1: down in Orange County where I'm at, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: still pretty conservative group, but so many of my good
Speaker 1: friends and stuff like, we just just don't see eye
Speaker 1: to eye anymore. And it's been it's been been pretty bad.
Speaker 1: But um, but that does make new opportunity to make
Speaker 1: a new community, which has been rewarding. Yeah, really fast,
Speaker 1: a bit cooin community is really welcoming and they're making
Speaker 1: they're making, uh they're making videos of me, you know,
Speaker 1: with laser eyes and all that kind of art. So
Speaker 1: super fun. So, UM, I guess what were some of
Speaker 1: the things, um, that were really bothering you? The most.
Speaker 1: I mean, was it like not being able to work?
Speaker 1: Was it like this cancel culture? Was it like the
Speaker 1: school system like or the things that I guess maybe
Speaker 1: had you the most worried if if you can think
Speaker 1: back on that, well, turning off my ability to work
Speaker 1: at the wave of the hand, Like I never thought.
Speaker 1: I thought that the government was there to just protect
Speaker 1: your constitutional rights so you could help yourself. But I
Speaker 1: never expected them to be the barrier to actually meet.
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't this virus, it was their response to it.
Speaker 1: So it was very concerning to me that they could
Speaker 1: just stop the flow of the machine of you know,
Speaker 1: just international travel, everything that comes through l A and um,
Speaker 1: everything with production just requiring a you know, a well
Speaker 1: oiled machine that rolls. So I got to see how
Speaker 1: just throwing one rock in that with that was like
Speaker 1: in the years of being productive. Um. The reason why
Speaker 1: I asked that is because I you know, I've seen
Speaker 1: you posting all the stuff off in this anger. Uh
Speaker 1: I hate to say anger, but you know, disillusionment Okay, anger, uh, disillusionment,
Speaker 1: whatever you wanna call it. And so yeah, a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago or maybe a month ago, I'm like Jessica, like,
Speaker 1: what about bitcoin? Have you taken a look at it? Right?
Speaker 1: Maybe should come over here? And your comment was your
Speaker 1: reply was that, um, I'm not into finance, I'm not
Speaker 1: into money and and and that's a typical response. Um,
Speaker 1: and that's and that's fine. But the reason why I
Speaker 1: was asking kind of like what the problems were that
Speaker 1: you were seeing is because I believe, like almost like
Speaker 1: if you had like this giant oak tree with like
Speaker 1: thousands of leaves on it, and every leave is a problem,
Speaker 1: Every leave is a problem that we might have, and
Speaker 1: we can discuss each lead by leave, but at the bottom,
Speaker 1: at the root is the money. And so like, if
Speaker 1: we can fix the money, all those problems on all
Speaker 1: those leaves can go away. Um and so um so
Speaker 1: so so you jumped in and now I guess are
Speaker 1: you starting to see that? And I want to see
Speaker 1: that some of these problems that you're seeing, so like
Speaker 1: the government their overreach, like they're too big. So if
Speaker 1: we could defund them some, if we could pull back
Speaker 1: their ability to print money, then we can limit their overreach. Right,
Speaker 1: that'd be like that'd be one example. Um, you that
Speaker 1: was brilliant. I love it. Limit government I'll vote for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Well, yeah, that's the thing, like libertarians never
Speaker 1: want to take over the world, and so they're not
Speaker 1: motivated in the same way, so they can't get the
Speaker 1: same traction. And it's there. There does seem to be
Speaker 1: a lot of solutions that are just out of the
Speaker 1: grip of immediate reach. Um. But to solve the problems
Speaker 1: we can at least opting into a monetary solution seems
Speaker 1: sensible to me. It seemed well within my reach. So
Speaker 1: you told me on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you
Speaker 1: know what, I've been super excited about just i mean
Speaker 1: really well for a long time, but really things are
Speaker 1: starting to happen pretty quickly here, and it's like the
Speaker 1: political system is captured, right, Like trying to change that,
Speaker 1: trying to fix that at this point is probably never
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Trying to fix the education system, try to
Speaker 1: fix the health system, like, none of that is gonna
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. But well, well, it's aggressively going in
Speaker 1: the opposite direction of solutions that you and I might
Speaker 1: think would be the obvious way to move forward. They're
Speaker 1: going the opposite direction, so that you know, compounded my
Speaker 1: frustrations yeah, and it's like what do we do about that? Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, the school system, I mean, it's just so
Speaker 1: far gone at this point. And and one of the
Speaker 1: things I noticed is that, you know, as they've tried
Speaker 1: to build it up, centralize it, and they tried to
Speaker 1: scale it, their interests actually go against what our interests are. Um.
Speaker 1: And so what we can do is we can just Okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead, go have that system. We'll just come over
Speaker 1: here and just build our own system over here, like
Speaker 1: never mind us, We'll just go create a new money system. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then off that new money system, we can create
Speaker 1: a new education system, and we'll create a new health
Speaker 1: system over here. Um and uh. And and that that
Speaker 1: gives me hope. Right, So you kind of look at
Speaker 1: things like the world has been moving to this totalitarian
Speaker 1: system for a long time, right, that that's the trend.
Speaker 1: And you know, China has their social credit system and
Speaker 1: all of that going on, which I know you're aware of.
Speaker 1: And that's like the trend. And like what breaks that trend?
Speaker 1: At what point did the government wake up and go, ah,
Speaker 1: we have too much power, why don't we give us
Speaker 1: little bit of freedom back? You know? Yeah, there it's
Speaker 1: the culmination of all their dreams over all the years,
Speaker 1: you know, right now, so kind of spooky, yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 1: So like what point do they just wake up and
Speaker 1: decide to give it back to you? Right? So I
Speaker 1: don't think they do, uh in my opinion, Um, what
Speaker 1: breaks that is is competition. And so um, just like
Speaker 1: I left California and a lot of other people have
Speaker 1: left California, They've gone to Texas and now the governor
Speaker 1: is being recalled maybe hopefully we'll see he'll see how
Speaker 1: that goes, right, But you know, Californians realized, like, shoot,
Speaker 1: if we don't make a change, like we're going to
Speaker 1: be dead in the wall here. And um, eventually we'll
Speaker 1: get governments competing for us. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: bitcoin enables. So so you're new to bitcoin, Um, you
Speaker 1: swan bitcoin? Um? And uh, tell me about your experience
Speaker 1: like being on board, because I didn't really help you
Speaker 1: out with that much too much, right, I just said, hey,
Speaker 1: you should think about buying bitcoin, and you did. You
Speaker 1: jumped in. How's that experience been? Pretty straightforward? I don't
Speaker 1: understand a lot of things, you know, hot storage and
Speaker 1: cold storage and all these things, But but I like
Speaker 1: in UM intellectual endeavors. It's fun to learn it. Since
Speaker 1: I have all this newfound time UM entering into something,
Speaker 1: it's it almost feels more interesting to me that I
Speaker 1: have no real financial understanding of old world stuff, because
Speaker 1: now I don't have to at least have to overcome
Speaker 1: old ideas. It's the best. But I can learn bitcoin
Speaker 1: and everything because it's such a popular topic now, and
Speaker 1: luckily there's educators like yourself that are trying to help
Speaker 1: people wrap their head around a lot of these things.
Speaker 1: So UM it hasn't been too overwhelming, and I don't
Speaker 1: think necessarily don't participate. You have to know everything right away,
Speaker 1: So I mean, I think to your point, it's perfect.
Speaker 1: I mean, the more educated you are in the financial system,
Speaker 1: almost the harder time you have seen it, right. And
Speaker 1: that's why you see some of the biggest and best
Speaker 1: known investors like Ray Dalio just like I can't get
Speaker 1: my head around this because he's just he's so ingrained
Speaker 1: in the system that's completely false and fake that he
Speaker 1: can't see any other way. Well, people like him are
Speaker 1: still advantageous in the process of me having not having
Speaker 1: any financial understanding to to grow from UM, but to
Speaker 1: teach people people that teach you the cash is trash.
Speaker 1: At least that's at least the streamlined understanding that that
Speaker 1: we all have. So but it seems like people's solutions
Speaker 1: to the problem are just different. Um. You know, a
Speaker 1: lot of people still doubling down on precious metals and
Speaker 1: making a case for that. But it doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: they're not educating big future bitcoiners in the process to
Speaker 1: tell you why fiad is terrible. Yeah, and that's a
Speaker 1: good point, and I've made that case several times. I
Speaker 1: became a gold bug in like two thousand eight after
Speaker 1: the Great Financial Crash. Then I realized it wasn't so
Speaker 1: much a goldbug. I was more of a sound money advocate.
Speaker 1: And bitcoin is just a better form of sound money.
Speaker 1: So they are fighting that same battle and they're both
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Speaker 1: like for you and I for like freedom lovers, it's
Speaker 1: like I might not like what you say, but like
Speaker 1: I respect you're right to say it. I have a
Speaker 1: right not to listen to it, right, But they believe
Speaker 1: that UM words are violence, so by you saying something
Speaker 1: they don't like, they consider that violence. Now, I know
Speaker 1: you're an m M A fan. I've done martial arts
Speaker 1: most of my life. I've trained, we're we're of the
Speaker 1: variety that you know, even violence isn't really violence. So
Speaker 1: I might be too far the other direction on that
Speaker 1: to think that words are violence. But yeah, I saw
Speaker 1: that one of them are mixed martial artists. UM Israel
Speaker 1: Outisania lost a BMW deal because he made some comment,
Speaker 1: you know, in just general ship talking to another fighter.
Speaker 1: He made some rape comment like oh I'd rape you.
Speaker 1: That's something something like that that just meant totally down
Speaker 1: and ate you in this situation hypothetically any loss his
Speaker 1: BMW endorsement for that. Wow. I don't know people, and
Speaker 1: I've seen like on these college campuses where they think
Speaker 1: it's like violence, like and so if you say things
Speaker 1: to me that I don't like, I have the right
Speaker 1: to defend myself, which means beating you up. Like that's
Speaker 1: like it's pretty wacko. But I think about it like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, like a lion, I mean any animal, right,
Speaker 1: Like you take a lion, a proud lion in the jungle,
Speaker 1: and um, it's a rough life for them. I mean
Speaker 1: they're the king of the jungle, but they gotta fight
Speaker 1: other lions. They may go weeks without eating if ever, right,
Speaker 1: I mean it's a tough life for them. Um, but
Speaker 1: they're free. But you could put them in a cage
Speaker 1: and you could give them their antibiotics and you can
Speaker 1: give them their one meal a day and they'll be safe.
Speaker 1: But they live in a cage and want they but
Speaker 1: they live in a cage. Right. The problem is is
Speaker 1: once a lion lives in a cage, you can't put
Speaker 1: them back into the wild. And so that's kind of
Speaker 1: where we're at. We have like all these people, not
Speaker 1: that they are all lions, but I mean they can't
Speaker 1: just live back in the wild anymore. But, um, something
Speaker 1: is super interesting that you'd be I'm gonna do a
Speaker 1: video on it. So you can wait to do the
Speaker 1: video on it. But there's a book called The Fourth Turning.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of that? No, So everything in
Speaker 1: life has like cycles. So like this, we have like summer, winter,
Speaker 1: springfall kind of thing. Um, And so markets are meant
Speaker 1: to go up and down, seasons go up and down,
Speaker 1: things change, right. Um, what the government wants is no
Speaker 1: bad things to happen, so we have to make everything flat.
Speaker 1: But like, you don't know joy without pain, right, you
Speaker 1: don't know joys. The whole argument to not take antidepressants
Speaker 1: unless you're literally going to kill yourself tomorrow if we
Speaker 1: don't stop this, because you know, they want to stabilize
Speaker 1: your mood, but you just to avoid feeling down here,
Speaker 1: you can't feel yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. You have
Speaker 1: to feel bad sometimes without feeling and so and I
Speaker 1: think part of that to that, to that point, you
Speaker 1: have to you have to know that it's okay to
Speaker 1: feel bad sometimes. Um. That's one thing about you know,
Speaker 1: taking drugs all the time is like I remember when
Speaker 1: when ecstasy was really really big a long time ago,
Speaker 1: and it's like every day shouldn't be the best day
Speaker 1: of your life, Like it's not supposed spect that anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you definitely interfere with your own um momentum that the
Speaker 1: signals of life or your feelings are just a thermometer
Speaker 1: about what's happening. Dole and numb and and otherwise imperil
Speaker 1: those things. How are you really getting the signals that
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be getting to know that it's time
Speaker 1: to change or get away from this person or grow
Speaker 1: in this direction. Yeah, exactly. So we have like these
Speaker 1: like natural laws of the universe. I talked about one earlier,
Speaker 1: like deflation versus the fete is trying to cause inflation, right,
Speaker 1: But like, um, we have these natural cycles and so
Speaker 1: um you can look back through history and see these cycles.
Speaker 1: And one of them, there's like this ninety year cycle
Speaker 1: and every ninety years it repeats. It's called the fourth turning.
Speaker 1: So basically you might have heard this one before where
Speaker 1: it's like hard times bring good men, good men, bring
Speaker 1: good times. Good times bring weak men, weak men, bring
Speaker 1: bad times, bad times, bring good men, right, and it's
Speaker 1: a cycle. That's the that's the fourth time we have
Speaker 1: entered into the soft. Now all the men are very soft.
Speaker 1: So yes, I mean they're taking there. I mean they're
Speaker 1: trying to get rid of masculine and altogether. You know, well,
Speaker 1: in China they're not doing that. That's one thing that
Speaker 1: they don't broadcast. But in China, yeah, yeah, they're not
Speaker 1: weakening the they're not softening their men and normalizing a
Speaker 1: lot of things that they're trying to normalize. Here they're
Speaker 1: witnessing all that. They're like, look, they're going to destroy
Speaker 1: America is going to destroy itself. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So, um,
Speaker 1: what's interesting about that is, um, you know, another natural
Speaker 1: law is that you have to sew before you can reap, right,
Speaker 1: you have to you have to produce before you can consume.
Speaker 1: Like that's a natural law. What happens is in that
Speaker 1: fourth turning is you have this whole group of people
Speaker 1: that that were so good, they created so much wealth
Speaker 1: that then you have a whole another generation that's able
Speaker 1: to live off of that without ever producing anything. So
Speaker 1: we have the whole generation of people who have never
Speaker 1: had to create, never had to produce, and they just
Speaker 1: think that's normal. They feel entitled to the labors of
Speaker 1: other people. Yeah, so we know how that ends. And unfortunately, um,
Speaker 1: things aren't looking real good. But on the other side
Speaker 1: of it, there's hope. So I mean, it's the it's
Speaker 1: depressid and all, but yeah, there's a big I feel it.
Speaker 1: I certainly just want as much as I love l
Speaker 1: a like, I just want a way from people that
Speaker 1: think this way because it's it's scary when you think
Speaker 1: about it, if you extrapolated out to the worst situations
Speaker 1: that aren't all that uncommon, like go back to Kansas. No,
Speaker 1: I don't see myself doing that'll do conservative. But if
Speaker 1: this we're going to be a shorter period time, the
Speaker 1: fact that it's also already been a year and it's
Speaker 1: only getting worse and they're going to do more of it.
Speaker 1: Like I just I want to go be around people
Speaker 1: that understand why you have your first Amendment and why
Speaker 1: you have your second Amendment, just basic things. I thought
Speaker 1: that we all shared. I thought that we all shared
Speaker 1: these values, but it comes to find out, Um, we don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's why I don't want to be especially not
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. Yeah. And I was hearing someone side the
Speaker 1: other day and they were saying, how like, Um, I
Speaker 1: love like America, but I love the American values. Right,
Speaker 1: So the values that made America what it is today,
Speaker 1: the values that made America great, Like, that's what I love. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't love the America that's it's becoming. Right. The
Speaker 1: values are are also the responsibilities that come with with
Speaker 1: the rights. And everybody wants to talk about the rights,
Speaker 1: but not enough about the responsibilities that have to come
Speaker 1: with that. That's the rub. That's the rub. People want
Speaker 1: the freedom, but they don't want the responsibility that comes
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah. I want the freedom to go do
Speaker 1: whatever I want, but I don't want to have to
Speaker 1: bear the consequences of what happens. Right, And that's just
Speaker 1: that's just a child world view. It's not it's not
Speaker 1: that it's so bad. It's just that, you know, you're
Speaker 1: just idealistic, right, But it these things that work in
Speaker 1: the real world. And I think what they've done with
Speaker 1: this victim culture right where it's like you can't get ahead,
Speaker 1: Jessica because you're a female, or you can't get ahead
Speaker 1: because you're female in a minority, you can't get ahead
Speaker 1: because you're a female, a minority and gay, and you know,
Speaker 1: and it's like like this race to the bottom right,
Speaker 1: this identity politics. Um. But if they can make you
Speaker 1: feel like you can't get ahead because of whatever problems
Speaker 1: you have, then you need a savior right now. You
Speaker 1: need a savior. So you can't get ahead, But don't worry.
Speaker 1: We're gonna come in and we're gonna save you. And
Speaker 1: then you become even more dependent almost, yeah, exactly. Um.
Speaker 1: And you know, I guess that's one thing that I
Speaker 1: love so much about fight culture is is that nobody's
Speaker 1: a victim, Like you have to like to fight for
Speaker 1: your life, fight for your freedom. Everybody fights for something.
Speaker 1: So it's analogist to all of life. The fight game
Speaker 1: for me, what's up with the game in you? Uh,
Speaker 1: it's just it just um reaches in a primal place
Speaker 1: in me. I suppose. I don't know. I was working
Speaker 1: on doing sports media and the journalism side of it
Speaker 1: and all that before the shutdowns, came. I did like
Speaker 1: all of Fame inductions and rank camera for some of that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I I um was working in this
Speaker 1: space doing some podcasting and stuff like I wish I
Speaker 1: suppose I could. I could pick back up a podcasting
Speaker 1: in the way that like I would sit with a
Speaker 1: journalist friend and he'd be like, so, what do you
Speaker 1: think is gonna happen with this match and stuff like
Speaker 1: that in person in the same room. So this isn't
Speaker 1: as fun, but it's better than nothing. Since since everything
Speaker 1: in the fight world like slammed to a screeching halt.
Speaker 1: I saw that Dane White's gonna do an event in
Speaker 1: Florida that sold out in a matter of days. So big,
Speaker 1: did you see? I had Kenny Florian on. Yes, that's yeah.
Speaker 1: I um, I didn't twice. I've had him on now.
Speaker 1: He had him on like a year and a half ago. Uh,
Speaker 1: he was like a big fan. I was like surprised.
Speaker 1: I was like, what, I'm fan, Like, let's let's have
Speaker 1: you on. He's super smart man. Yeah, he really gets it. Well, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's about all I got. That's the questions I have.
Speaker 1: Of course, Uh, we're excited to see your journey into
Speaker 1: it and see you participate. Um, I know you're a writer,
Speaker 1: and we could tell right you're you're pretty eloquent with
Speaker 1: your words. Um yeah, I just do my videos because
Speaker 1: I don't have those that those bigger words. But uh
Speaker 1: but it's good stuff, all right. Well, um I guess
Speaker 1: with that, we'll go ahead and wrap it up. And
Speaker 1: uh and thanks for joining us. Oh thanks for having me,
Speaker 1: all right y