Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Ketty.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty, and He Armstrong and Getty.
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Speaker 3: was recently listed for sale for one hundred and ten
Speaker 3: million dollars, which features multiple swimming pools and a custom
Speaker 3: built tennis pavilion that had been a gift from NBC. Well,
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I understand if you can't afford it,
Speaker 2: you can't afford it. When I was younger, I probably
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been able to do it either. But I
Speaker 2: cannot handle streaming services that have ads. I just can't
Speaker 2: do it. I just I gotta pay whatever to get
Speaker 2: rid of the ads.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody's in a different financial position, different priorities, et cetera.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I hear you. Oh that's so annoying. And
Speaker 2: the way they position them, they do a good job
Speaker 2: of putting the ads in like the most annoying spot
Speaker 2: of whatever you're watching. It's just been announced that Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's presidential library will be in Miami. That's kind of interesting,
Speaker 2: different topic, so maybe anyway, go ahead. Yet another story
Speaker 2: that should be elevated above the brave return of Jimmy
Speaker 2: Kimmel to Lake Nice because who freaking cares? Is that
Speaker 2: phone server bank thingy they found in New York yesterday
Speaker 2: that could have disrupted all of the New York cell
Speaker 2: phone and we're trying to figure out who it is.
Speaker 2: This is the way ABC covered it last night.
Speaker 4: A system so powerful authorities say it could have been
Speaker 4: used to disrupt all cell phone service for the entire
Speaker 4: city of New York, including police, fire and ems. The
Speaker 4: so called sim farm capable of sending thirty million text
Speaker 4: messages a minute, source of selling ABC News the operation
Speaker 4: is connected to the Chinese government sought he found the
Speaker 4: sim farm while investigating anonymous threatening calls earlier this year,
Speaker 4: targeting three people, including one with direct access to President Trump.
Speaker 2: So that's highly troubling. Obviously, it seems like exactly the
Speaker 2: way you'd lay the groundwork for a giant attack, right,
Speaker 2: we'll discuss after. This is CNN's version of the story.
Speaker 1: Can I you okay real quick? Or ask a follow
Speaker 1: up question? Pierre Thomas there stated that police and fire
Speaker 1: would be unable to communicate with each other because of
Speaker 1: the cell phone system crashing.
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 1: Surely we have a redundancy or radios or something that
Speaker 1: doesn't depend on the civilian system.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah, I don't know. That's horrifying. If anybody
Speaker 2: knows about that, we'd love to hear from him.
Speaker 5: That's what we do know is that foreign governments and
Speaker 5: criminals located in the United States are using this network
Speaker 5: to run their organizations. That includes cartels, that includes human traffickers,
Speaker 5: that includes terrorists are on this network.
Speaker 6: If there is some organization behind this, we have to
Speaker 6: assume that there's one in LA one in Washington, d C.
Speaker 6: Another in Chicago, because if it's a nation state that
Speaker 6: wants to attack infrastructure during crisis to break communications and
Speaker 6: we don't know exactly what the timing of that crisis
Speaker 6: would be for the type, that's the kind of thing
Speaker 6: that the Secret Service, the Director of National Intelligence, Home
Speaker 6: Land Security, and I'm sure eventually the FBI will have
Speaker 6: to really work to get to the bottom of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's John Miller on CNN who used to be
Speaker 2: in the FBI and has great sources.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a sleeper cell or a sleeper virus
Speaker 1: that just lurks on the hard drive until you need it.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot of stuff they're not telling us,
Speaker 2: but they it announced that it is a nation state
Speaker 2: that was behind putting the stuff in, and then they're
Speaker 2: coordinating with people in the United States. But there's only
Speaker 2: a couple of nation states you can imagine that would
Speaker 2: be doing this, right, China, Russia, Iran, maybe North Korea.
Speaker 2: I doubt it.
Speaker 1: It rhymes with Pina, but we can't say anything else
Speaker 1: at this time.
Speaker 2: Uh, how many other.
Speaker 1: Sleeper systems, trip wires, booby traps are in our infrastructure?
Speaker 2: Well how about John Miller saying I hadn't even thought
Speaker 2: this that you have to assume that if they had
Speaker 2: one in New York, they got it in all the
Speaker 2: other major cities also, yeah, yeah, well that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I was thinking of it more in terms of a
Speaker 1: plot against something happening in New York, since New York
Speaker 1: is New York, home of the UN and financial capital
Speaker 1: of the world, and the rest of it.
Speaker 2: Worth pointing out that while it was announced yesterday, the
Speaker 2: week of the UN meeting, which made it seem like
Speaker 2: was it something about the UN It was discovered quite
Speaker 2: a while back, so they just announced it yesterday for
Speaker 2: some reason.
Speaker 1: Right, But to finish my thought that what you just
Speaker 1: expressed makes more sense if it is a Chinese you know, uh,
Speaker 1: a weapon waiting to be deployed, a sleep or weapon,
Speaker 1: it makes much much more sense to have it deployed
Speaker 1: much more in a widespread fashion.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And if you've ever gotten halfway to work and
Speaker 2: realized you didn't bring your cell phone and it seems like,
Speaker 2: oh my god.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, how is my life possibly going to
Speaker 7: function if I don't have my phone with me? Oh am,
Speaker 7: I good to even though you know, if you're of
Speaker 7: a certain age, you used to go to work without
Speaker 7: a cell phone and everything that comes with it all
Speaker 7: the time, and you were perfectly fine. You drove across
Speaker 7: the country you want, on vacations, you did everything you
Speaker 7: did without a cell phone.
Speaker 2: You were fine. But nobody can anymore, and we all
Speaker 2: feel like in a panic and naked. Imagine if your
Speaker 2: cell phone didn't work, but you're getting some sort of
Speaker 2: news about they're the attack of some sort a nine
Speaker 2: to eleven style attack anywhere, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: cell phones don't work imagine the panic that that would
Speaker 2: sew nationwide. It's just it's something from a horror movie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you think, oh my god, I need to get a
Speaker 2: hold of my kids and you can't, or your wife
Speaker 2: or your husband or whatever. Well, I was just thinking there.
Speaker 1: You could probably name at least a half dozen different
Speaker 1: crisis scenarios where you know, I could ask you what
Speaker 1: would you do? And the answer would be, well, I'd
Speaker 1: grab my cell phone and I would dial, or I
Speaker 1: would click on, or I would tune in, or I
Speaker 1: would be no, you will do nothing, friends.
Speaker 2: I would get on Twitter for all the latest this
Speaker 2: and that, and I would head home and the first
Speaker 2: thing I would do is jump on my GPS thing
Speaker 2: on my phone to figure out the traffic, because traffic
Speaker 2: is in gridlock out there as everybody's in a panic,
Speaker 2: and nobody has access to any of that through their
Speaker 2: cell phone. Wi Fi would still work, wouldn't it, I assume.
Speaker 1: Unless they bring that down to the insidious Chinese communist
Speaker 1: hortus already thought of that.
Speaker 2: I'm sure what just on a broader worse which might
Speaker 2: make things worse. I mean, if if some people had
Speaker 2: some information and then as soon as you get away
Speaker 2: from your building with Wi Fi. You got no communication.
Speaker 2: I just can't imagine the panic that would. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: it's horrendous, horrendus. Yeah, what was I about to say?
Speaker 8: Oh, from a thirty thousand foot mattage point, a technologically
Speaker 8: advanced totalitarian state competing against a technologically advanced open society.
Speaker 1: With freedom, a movement, a non surveillance state. Mostly can
Speaker 1: the open society possibly win? I think that is the
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Speaker 2: Can a open, free society that is a democracy with
Speaker 2: all the red tape that entails defeat in autocracy? That
Speaker 2: is the question for planet Earth. It's probably number one
Speaker 2: question on planet Earth for the future. I think you
Speaker 2: were on vacation when China did that big show about
Speaker 2: that bridge they built. You weren't here for that, were you? Oh? Correct? Ye.
Speaker 2: They parked all these trucks across the world's biggest suspension bridge,
Speaker 2: which they built in like nine months, across some giant
Speaker 2: gorge and it's just stunning structure. Just to show that
Speaker 2: they could build that sort of thing that fast. That
Speaker 2: he parked all these giant trucks on it to show
Speaker 2: how strong it is, so you couldn't make the comment, well,
Speaker 2: probably fall apart. And I was just thinking, you know
Speaker 2: those stories that you hear all the time about how
Speaker 2: we built the Empire State Building in six months during depression.
Speaker 2: Now it takes the thirty years to lay one mile
Speaker 2: of track for a supposed bullet train. Because of all
Speaker 2: kinds of environmental concerns and this and that, we can't
Speaker 2: do anything anymore. So you've got that aspect of it.
Speaker 2: Then you got the whole security state versus non security
Speaker 2: state thing. But I think it's worth pointing out that
Speaker 2: China is not Johnny Knoxville. I mean, they're not running
Speaker 2: a jackass operation. Where wouldn't it be funny if we
Speaker 2: shut off their cell phones and watch how they panic.
Speaker 2: They have a goal. Their goal is to supplant us
Speaker 2: as the world's hyperpower. So yeah, I got to think
Speaker 2: in terms of what they're not like the Muslim fanatics
Speaker 2: where they just want to knock down a building. I mean,
Speaker 2: they have a goal. So what sort of thing would
Speaker 2: they do where they then shut down our cell phones
Speaker 2: in all our major cities. I can't imagine what that
Speaker 2: would be. Oh, my goodness. You know, our goal would
Speaker 2: have to be to defeat our military, do enough damage
Speaker 2: to our military or our economy like Japan hoped to
Speaker 2: do on Pearl Harbor, that we can't fight back, that
Speaker 2: they could win a war, that they could do whatever
Speaker 2: they want.
Speaker 1: Well, the economy and our liberties are the engine that
Speaker 1: drives everything, including our military. No economy, no military, And
Speaker 1: so as China seek global supremacy and tries to line
Speaker 1: up as many countries as possible on their team as
Speaker 1: opposed to our team in the case of the Bridge,
Speaker 1: they're sending the message, Hey, we're effective, period, we get
Speaker 1: stuff done. These people are so wrapped up in their
Speaker 1: own you know, legal system and stated principles they can't
Speaker 1: get anything done. Oh and by the way, they're going
Speaker 1: to lecture you on your human rights. We don't give
Speaker 1: a crap. And in an effort to surpass us economically
Speaker 1: or just weaken us economically, that might be reason enough
Speaker 1: to take down the cell system in New York for
Speaker 1: you know, three or four days, none all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: like the denial of service attacks and the ransomware attacks,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden.
Speaker 2: Oh, look at that no.
Speaker 1: Hospital on the West coast can conduct its business because
Speaker 1: we've met with their systems or something like that. Just
Speaker 1: one after the other every couple of months, that might
Speaker 1: be enough.
Speaker 2: Combine that with a drone attack on all our big
Speaker 2: military bases.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so you're going for the big, big attack.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to point out it doesn't need to be that.
Speaker 2: All that land that they've purchased near military bases across
Speaker 2: the country, that's no good much as shipping containers open
Speaker 2: up and drones fly out like Ukraine did to Russia.
Speaker 1: Are those robot wolves galloping across the landscape? Okay, so
Speaker 1: now we're gonna get silly? Is that what we've decided?
Speaker 1: What what you're taking robot wolves lightly?
Speaker 2: I'm not a robot wolves start galloping across meadows. You're
Speaker 2: running as fast as you can, but it's like your
Speaker 2: legs are in quicksand you just can't run any faster,
Speaker 2: and the robots gaining on you.
Speaker 1: They'll put speakers on them so they can howl atl
Speaker 1: Why are they howling?
Speaker 2: They're robots? Oh my god? It first that I thought
Speaker 2: these are some awful scenarios we've laid out. Are we
Speaker 2: are we can tough it up America. Okay, more on
Speaker 2: the waist to hear a school local to where we
Speaker 2: broadcast from in Sacramento just voted yesterday to keep having
Speaker 2: boys in girls' sports and we can't believe it. We'll
Speaker 2: talk more about that coming up. Just absolutely amazing. An
Speaker 2: update on my Ukrainian girlfriend. If you've been following this, well,
Speaker 2: if you haven't been following this saga, a quick background,
Speaker 2: so you know, my email has been hacked, like yours
Speaker 2: has a million times. All kinds of people have your
Speaker 2: email address, and some bad actor is trying to get
Speaker 2: me involved in a scam, like happens all the time,
Speaker 2: but in this case it love as a scam. In
Speaker 2: this case it somebody portrayed themselves as a young Ukrainian
Speaker 2: woman who like immediately was in love with me just
Speaker 2: because of my email address or something like that. Jack Armstrong,
Speaker 2: precious fight and she she writes in funny ways. I
Speaker 2: guess you would if you don't you're not a native
Speaker 2: English speaker. She's Ukrainian. She says things like Jack, my
Speaker 2: precious diamond love you know that sort of thing, and
Speaker 2: how much she loves me, and she sends pictures The
Speaker 2: weird thing is all the pictures are like different girls.
Speaker 2: She looks different than the different pictures. But anyway, she's
Speaker 2: like lady guy guys. She's constantly reinventing herself. So what
Speaker 2: I was wondering is what was the scam? What's the scam?
Speaker 2: Is it gonna be the as she asks for money?
Speaker 2: Does she get to try to get me to click
Speaker 2: on a link? She did send me like voice memos
Speaker 2: if you would like to hear my voice? How beautiful
Speaker 2: it is? You know here it is, So there was
Speaker 2: something to click on. I did not click on it.
Speaker 2: And I've been like sending one word replies or a
Speaker 2: one sentence replies every now and then. You know, been
Speaker 2: thinking of you all night. You know, how are you?
Speaker 2: That sort of thing? Wow, good man, waiting for waiting
Speaker 2: for the scam? I just wondered, what which kind of
Speaker 2: scam this is? Well, Hanson came up with the idea
Speaker 2: of scam her first tell her you have had a
Speaker 2: medical emergency and need five thousand dollars, or you're in
Speaker 2: jail or whatever it's going to be, ask her for money.
Speaker 2: But we decided to lead up to that, and so
Speaker 2: I had sent this email two days ago. You were
Speaker 2: on my mind the entire weekend. I really want to
Speaker 2: see you, my Buttercup, and I really want to see you.
Speaker 2: Who is gonna be followed by I have almost all
Speaker 2: the money I need for a plane ticket. I just
Speaker 2: need five hundred dollars more or something like that. But
Speaker 2: her response shocked me. All my kisses for you, Jack,
Speaker 2: exclamation point, exclamation point. If you really want to have
Speaker 2: a relationship with me, please answer all the letters I
Speaker 2: wrote to you and all my questions another way. Please
Speaker 2: do not disturb me anymore. Wow. She actually like, if
Speaker 2: you're not gonna actually email me back and participate in
Speaker 2: this relationship, I want out, is the way she responded,
Speaker 2: which is surprising to me. Wow.
Speaker 1: She replied, if I might, don't build me up, Buttercup,
Speaker 1: just to let me down, to quote the old Motowness song.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what to think now. But that's
Speaker 2: a weird scam.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it's good. It's smart. She's trying to
Speaker 1: convince you of her sincerity.
Speaker 2: So that's supposed to make me as a really pathetic, sad, lonely,
Speaker 2: perhaps mentally ill person. Oh no, I'm in jeopardy of
Speaker 2: losing this.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, I've got to be serious about this.
Speaker 1: I've got to treat this girl like she deserves to
Speaker 1: be treated. Yes, God, I got to answer all our questions.
Speaker 1: I don't want to answer all our questions. He had
Speaker 1: a lot of questions about, like, you know, what's your
Speaker 1: favorite movie or flower or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know. You know the way, you know, the
Speaker 2: way women are with their questions while you're trying to
Speaker 2: watch TV. Did you have a comment, Katie.
Speaker 9: No, It just sounds like she's totally trying to guilt
Speaker 9: you into keeping this going. Oh okay, gotcha, And I
Speaker 9: heavily think you should answer all of the questions and
Speaker 9: continue this because this is fantastic entertainment.
Speaker 2: God, we've only been together for two weeks and already
Speaker 2: it's nan And why didn't she answer my question? I
Speaker 2: was working? Do you know what you did? Yeah? Exactly? Okay,
Speaker 2: Well I guess i'll respond. I really want to know
Speaker 2: what the ask is going to be. When she's going.
Speaker 1: To be small small ish, I can't remember what the
Speaker 1: term for it is, but she will need a pitdlling
Speaker 1: amount of money.
Speaker 2: She well keep her pretty five dollars. It's either a
Speaker 2: bot or some you know, criminal gang. It's not some
Speaker 2: bearded guy in his mom's basement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's more likely some poor bastard and slaved
Speaker 1: in Southeast Asia being.
Speaker 2: Forced to do this. Well, because that's what a lot
Speaker 2: of it is. That's not romantic, that's not my buttercup.
Speaker 9: Yes, Skatie, Yeah, I think it'll be a small amount,
Speaker 9: but for something that's very serious, she'll create some major
Speaker 9: crisis and just be like, this is all I need though,
Speaker 9: in order to fix it.
Speaker 2: And then it's going to grow from there.
Speaker 1: Look at it like a series of interviews. The you
Speaker 1: responded was the first interview. We've looked at your resume
Speaker 1: and it's pretty attractive. We'd like you to come back
Speaker 1: for a second interview. The second interview is the can
Speaker 1: we lure this guy in to sending forty dollars on
Speaker 1: some pretext? And if that happens, then you get the
Speaker 1: full court press. They bring in their real pros. I
Speaker 1: am her precious Rose, at least that's what she says,
Speaker 1: and here is something diamond as well.
Speaker 2: Armstrong Andngetti.
Speaker 10: Ukrainian leader Vladimir'slinsky will be addressing the UN General Assembly
Speaker 10: after President Donald Trump threatened even more sanctions and tariffs
Speaker 10: against Russia during his own speech, and now President Trump
Speaker 10: saying that Ukraine, with NATO's help, might be able to
Speaker 10: win back land taken by Russia. Those comments from the
Speaker 10: President came after this post to truth social where he
Speaker 10: described Russia as looking like a paper tiger and how
Speaker 10: a quote real military power would have had a quick victory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a heck of a development that has happened
Speaker 2: in the last twenty four hours. That caught everybody by surprise,
Speaker 2: including the president of Ukraine. Let's listen to a little
Speaker 2: of what Trump said. This is after his un speech,
Speaker 2: when he was sitting around with reporters.
Speaker 11: Now you got to head it to the Quatian soldiers
Speaker 11: and everybody involved. It's still going on, and that's that's
Speaker 11: not a good thing for Russia.
Speaker 2: This was supposed to be quick.
Speaker 11: And so you know, Russian doesn't look very distinguished having
Speaker 11: taken three and a half years now, right about three
Speaker 11: and a half years of very hard fighting, and it
Speaker 11: looks like it's snuck it in for a long time.
Speaker 2: He's sitting with Zelensky, he goes on.
Speaker 11: So we'll see what happens. But the other side can
Speaker 11: fight too, and they've proven that. Maybe it's a pay
Speaker 11: It could be that Russia is a paper tiger. I
Speaker 11: don't know what they are. But three and a half
Speaker 11: years of fighting and killing everybody and killing seven thousand people.
Speaker 10: A week.
Speaker 11: For nothing, for nothing. So it's a very sad situation.
Speaker 11: But most of you have seen the recent statement I
Speaker 11: put out a little while ago, and I'm glad you
Speaker 11: got it, but I feel that way. I really don't
Speaker 11: feel that we let them get their land back.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 11: So we'll see how it all works out.
Speaker 2: So the statement Trump referring to, after getting to know
Speaker 2: and fully understand the Ukraine Russia military and economic situation,
Speaker 2: and after seeing the economic trouble it's causing Russia, I
Speaker 2: think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is
Speaker 2: in a position to fight and win all of Ukraine
Speaker 2: back in its original form with time patients, in the
Speaker 2: financial support of Europe and in particular NATO, the original
Speaker 2: borders from where this war started is very much an option.
Speaker 1: Wow, the heck of a thing to say, see in that?
Speaker 1: Or is that a bargaining position?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, well, yeah, could could be.
Speaker 2: I mean, he wants the war to end. I mean,
Speaker 2: if this, if this would scare Russia into an agreement
Speaker 2: of some sort.
Speaker 1: I think it's notable that Moscow responded with mockery and humor.
Speaker 1: Kremlin spokesman said Russia is in no way at tie.
Speaker 1: Russia is more compared.
Speaker 2: With a bear. There are no paper bears.
Speaker 1: And then the Medvedyev mocked Trump's new position, saying you'd
Speaker 1: been given a dose of alternative reality and mocked Trump
Speaker 1: Trump's changing views.
Speaker 2: I have no doubt he will come back. He always
Speaker 2: comes back.
Speaker 1: The main thing is to radically change your point of
Speaker 1: view on various issues more often, and everything will be fine.
Speaker 1: That's the essence of successful government through social media.
Speaker 2: Trump's post was very, very long. Most people are only
Speaker 2: reading part of it, but a little more of it.
Speaker 2: When the people living in Moscow and all the great cities,
Speaker 2: towns and districts all throughout Russia find out what is
Speaker 2: really going on with this war, I thought that might
Speaker 2: be a tell. Are we about to somehow figure out
Speaker 2: a way to distribute that information to the people of Russia. Anyway,
Speaker 2: The fact that it's almost impossible for them to get
Speaker 2: gasoline through the long lines that are being formed and
Speaker 2: all other things that are taking place in their war economy,
Speaker 2: where most of their money is being spent on fighting Ukraine,
Speaker 2: which has great spirit and is only getting better. Ukraine
Speaker 2: would be able to take back their country in its
Speaker 2: original form, and who knows, maybe even go further than that.
Speaker 2: What is that maybe Ukraine off a little Russia. Maybe
Speaker 2: Ukraine takes some of your land. What do you think
Speaker 2: of that? Putting in Russia are in big economic trouble
Speaker 2: and this is the time for Ukraine to act in
Speaker 2: any event, I wish both countries well, what good luck
Speaker 2: to all? He says, thank you for your attention to
Speaker 2: this matter, and he said, we will continue to supply
Speaker 2: weapons to NATO for NATO to do to do what
Speaker 2: they want with them. This is a long way from
Speaker 2: where we were Trump. It's a long way from where
Speaker 2: we were with Biden.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just I'm so perplexed by this
Speaker 1: and have no idea what to expect. We got this note,
Speaker 1: we asked to it, what do you think the Kremlin's
Speaker 1: strategy is in mocking Trump?
Speaker 2: Impossible to imagine what the upside is. But Putin's a
Speaker 2: smart guy. Well, you've got to at least consider this
Speaker 2: from Terry. I think China and Russia have a plan together.
Speaker 2: If they draw Trump into some stupid, smaller problem, China
Speaker 2: now has their chance to assert themselves. I think she
Speaker 2: means they know that the Western world is very reluctant
Speaker 2: to ever use nuclear weapons. I don't think Putin and
Speaker 2: she are as reluctant. I could one.
Speaker 1: Hundred percent picture Shijin Ping having the following conversation, mister chairman,
Speaker 1: an exchange of nuclear weapons will cost one and a
Speaker 1: half million lives on each side, But we believe that
Speaker 1: would then neutralize the United States blah blah blah, because
Speaker 1: they would fear every using them again. Are you willing
Speaker 1: to trade those million and a half lives? And she
Speaker 1: would say absolutely, Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2: I don't think we would fire back with nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2: I think we'd absorb it. I've read enough about this.
Speaker 2: I think that is our current stance. We would just
Speaker 2: absorb it, try to negotiate something which is be fine
Speaker 2: with China and Russia. Probably. Yeah. So, I know a
Speaker 2: lot of people listening think this is some sort of
Speaker 2: crazy talk. This is absolutely one hundred percent the history
Speaker 2: of the world. This is what has happened every single
Speaker 2: time with every more powerful tribe, without every more powerful country.
Speaker 2: I mean, you name the circumstance. This is what always happens.
Speaker 2: The up and comer at some point strikes against the
Speaker 2: aging lion, you know, the lion that is no longer
Speaker 2: the king of this particular jungle. And and just to
Speaker 2: think that it's not going to happen again, you're foolish.
Speaker 1: I need to point out that we have literally invoked
Speaker 1: lions and tigers and bears in this discussion. Oh my,
Speaker 1: but you're you're absolutely right. But here, here's here's a
Speaker 1: real twist for you. The only way that's quicker to
Speaker 1: bring on horrific quality conflict than resisting them is to
Speaker 1: give in to them. Then you're really going to get
Speaker 1: a horrific conflict. Going Yeah, I don't know, Martin.
Speaker 2: I mean, finding those phone servers around New York and
Speaker 2: now finding out that they're probably all over the country,
Speaker 2: in every major city with the ability to shut down
Speaker 2: our cell phone service. There are barbarians at the gate. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean they're staring at the gate, peering in between
Speaker 2: the bars. You can see Oh no, no, no, they're inside.
Speaker 2: They're in Rome ooching around openly in our open society.
Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking about.
Speaker 1: This speaking of thirty thousand foot of views, and this
Speaker 1: is just me thinking I'm not in favor of this
Speaker 1: per se. But how many times have you heard me
Speaker 1: going on about how the post WW two global economy
Speaker 1: was a unique woment in hit that would never be repeated,
Speaker 1: where the US stood astride the world like a colossus.
Speaker 1: Europe was decimated, Japan was decimated, the rest of Asia
Speaker 1: was still living in huts, and we did the vast
Speaker 1: majority of the manufacturing of advanced products throughout the world.
Speaker 1: And you could stumble out of high school a half
Speaker 1: wit in Detroit, Michigan, get a job at the Ford
Speaker 1: Motor Plant, and be profitably employed, get yourself a nice
Speaker 1: house in a car in the suburbs, and raise your
Speaker 1: kids and have a lovely life in America and everything
Speaker 1: subsequent to that, people have.
Speaker 2: Said, well, what happened to that? That's the American tream.
Speaker 2: Now there was a snapshot in time. Okay, So here's
Speaker 2: my question, and that was only for some people. Everybody
Speaker 2: focuses on the people who lived in Detroit and got
Speaker 2: to work for GM. But wasn't that way for a
Speaker 2: lot of the country.
Speaker 1: Absolutely true. Yeah, So here's the question for you. And
Speaker 1: we were talking about this, when was the last hour
Speaker 1: and earlier this hour. It doesn't matter ken a technically
Speaker 1: advanced open society compete successfully against a technically advanced totalitarian
Speaker 1: society that is a police state and does not have
Speaker 1: nearly the vulnerabilities we do internally as we do. Okay, So,
Speaker 1: having set that or long preamble, here's my question. And
Speaker 1: if you've studied the constitution and individual rights in America,
Speaker 1: you know they have varied a lot through our history.
Speaker 1: They've gone up, they've gone down, free speech, censorship. Hell,
Speaker 1: we had slaves at one point. Perhaps you heard that
Speaker 1: in your local school. Anyway, it's all kind of gone
Speaker 1: up and down through the years. Could it be that
Speaker 1: the post say civil rights movement late twentieth century early
Speaker 1: twenty first century America of civil liberties and lack of
Speaker 1: government intrusion was also a moment in time that will
Speaker 1: not be repeated because it makes us too vulnerable to
Speaker 1: a technically advanced, gigantic, economically powerful totalitarian state.
Speaker 2: Well, that discussion will be had after the result of
Speaker 2: whatever is going to happen.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing, so you don't have the courage to answer
Speaker 1: me having asked you a question that really requires a
Speaker 1: five hundred page book.
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Speaker 2: First of all, where's JD vance? And those of you
Speaker 2: who agree with his stance on Ukraine? Ain our circus,
Speaker 2: not our monkeys. We shouldn't even be involved in this.
Speaker 2: Were that part of maga? How did they feel about
Speaker 2: Trump coming out?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think Ukraine could give back all their land and
Speaker 2: maybe even more. And what's JD saying right now? I
Speaker 2: want and we're here to help you. But part of
Speaker 2: Trump's very long post yesterday was Russia has been fighting
Speaker 2: aimlessly for three and a half years, a war that
Speaker 2: it should have, that should have taken a real military
Speaker 2: power less than a week to win. That's one odd
Speaker 2: and troubling thing to say, but that's what God under
Speaker 2: Putin's skin, I think would have taken a real military
Speaker 2: power less than a week to win. This is not
Speaker 2: distinguishing Russia. In fact, it's very much making look like
Speaker 2: a paper tiger. That's quitny thing about unprovoked aggression and
Speaker 2: wars of conquest or how it was morally wrong and
Speaker 2: any no no, which would have been nice. Probably Yeah,
Speaker 2: how this plays out, I have no idea. The Washington
Speaker 2: Post columnist says it's Trump sensing weakness, maybe with some
Speaker 2: data to back that up, that their military and economy
Speaker 2: economy are about to fall. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So my question is, will you and your Ukrainian girlfriend
Speaker 1: live here in the States or will you probably settle
Speaker 1: in Ukraine.
Speaker 2: I'd be a heck of a thing. Huh. I've decided
Speaker 2: to move to Ukraine. Which reminds me.
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Speaker 2: Most of the time. It often does. Yeah. Yeah, so
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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't like our chances. We have so
Speaker 2: many more things we've got to get to.
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom was making a fool of himself on national
Speaker 1: television again.
Speaker 2: He was on he's almost as funny as Kamala. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: we got some Kamal eclipse she's making. She she's having
Speaker 2: one of the worst launches of a book tour in
Speaker 2: the history of book tours. So we got a lot
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Speaker 1: So the lefties who are refusing to say pass a
Speaker 1: resolution honoring Charlie Kirk and the Congress are constantly saying, well,
Speaker 1: he would question the intelligence of black women, or he
Speaker 1: would say racially divisive things, because if you don't go
Speaker 1: with the progressive left's view of race and racism and
Speaker 1: the rest of it, they accuse you of being a racist,
Speaker 1: even though they are wrong and absolutely flamingly counterproductive. Instead
Speaker 1: of talking about the idiot Jimmy Kimmel, let's talk about
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk in his message. Here is a great conversation
Speaker 1: he had on a college campus.
Speaker 13: It is a fact, obviously that black people disproportionately commit
Speaker 13: crime in this country. You know what's arguing that. But
Speaker 13: you either believe that that is due to a complex
Speaker 13: intersection of social, economic and like leftover effects from previous inequalities,
Speaker 13: or you believe that that is an inherent trait to
Speaker 13: the race.
Speaker 2: No, I don't, because they weren't that way.
Speaker 12: In the nineteen forties and fifties, Black America was one
Speaker 12: of the most peaceful, flourishing, fastest growing economically communities in
Speaker 12: the country. It's not genetic. You're trying to point something
Speaker 12: on me that I don't believe. Instead that I believe.
Speaker 13: That it's non genetics. So you do think CRT is correct.
Speaker 12: In the nineteen forties and nineteen fifties, Black America was
Speaker 12: prosperous and was on pace to be richer and wealthier
Speaker 12: than white America. More dads were staying with the women
Speaker 12: that they were with, There was monogamy.
Speaker 13: What change you're supporting my argument?
Speaker 2: Hold on, but what answered the question? What change?
Speaker 12: Did America get more racists since nineteen fifty to nineteen?
Speaker 13: I would argue there were more racist policies passed. There
Speaker 13: were more policies dedicated in the nineteen fifties pushing them
Speaker 13: into poor housing and poor schools.
Speaker 12: Wait a second. In the nineteen fifties, Jackie Robinson had
Speaker 12: not even broken the color barrier. We had Jim Crow laws,
Speaker 12: we hadn't passed the Civil Rights Act, and we hadn't
Speaker 12: passed the Voting Rights Act. Yet blacks were better in
Speaker 12: the nineteen fifties per capita than they are today. So
Speaker 12: we have become less racist, We've passed more anti racist
Speaker 12: laws and given more stuff, and blacks are worse than
Speaker 12: they were seventy years ago.
Speaker 13: Why so you're equating here institutional and social racism. Social
Speaker 13: racism was certainly worse in the nineteen fifties, I'm sure
Speaker 13: everyone would agree. But institutional racism occurs when policies are
Speaker 13: passed against people come on, which can increase over time.
Speaker 12: You're not being intellectually honest. You know that there was
Speaker 12: black only drinking fountains in the nineteen fifties. We don't
Speaker 12: have those any anymore. Well, we're bringing it back with
Speaker 12: you know, black only dormitories.
Speaker 2: But we had we had.
Speaker 12: We had for example, in the in the Antebellum South
Speaker 12: in the nineteen fifties, we had white only communities, white
Speaker 12: by law. We got rid of that with the Civil
Speaker 12: Rights Act, but it didn't Unfortunately, we look around. The
Speaker 12: numbers speak for themselves. Black youth are less likely that fathers.
Speaker 12: They're not doing as well as far as economically, they
Speaker 12: commit more crime. So something changed, And our argument is
Speaker 12: what changed is three things. Number one, the imposition of
Speaker 12: the Great Society Project by Lyndon Baines Johnson of spending
Speaker 12: thirty trillion dollars since nineteen sixties on Section eight housing,
Speaker 12: on welfare on you know, all sorts of where as
Speaker 12: I said that young black women married the government and
Speaker 12: the divorced young black men. And then we also have
Speaker 12: had the as Thomas Soul and as Clarence Thomas would say,
Speaker 12: the soft bigotry of law expectations, and we have been
Speaker 12: afraid to get to the root of the issue or
Speaker 12: even speak about it because we don't be called the racist.
Speaker 13: So who what is imposing those low expectations.
Speaker 12: It's part of it is like white academic culture. I'll
Speaker 12: give you an example. I'm not saying you believe this,
Speaker 12: but Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States,
Speaker 12: has come out and said having an ID to vote
Speaker 12: is racist. Now is code for saying black people are
Speaker 12: too dumb to get a voter ID.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised Charlie didn't answer directly her question by saying
Speaker 1: progressive policies. I mean, I agree with her in a
Speaker 1: weird way that the institutional legal framework.
Speaker 2: In America damaged Black America.
Speaker 1: I believe that one hundred percent, and it was practically
Speaker 1: one hundred percent from progressives who did that damage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not intentionally racist policies, though the idea being
Speaker 2: forced into bad housing, bad schools. Right.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's building a culture of dependence see and
Speaker 1: non self sufficiency. That's one of the most horrifying, cruel
Speaker 1: things you could do to a person.
Speaker 2: Big picture, big picture takeaway from that, though, aside from
Speaker 2: the specifics that guy got shot, I got murdered for that,
Speaker 2: having those kind of conversations. We need so many more
Speaker 2: of those kind of conversations on every topic. Yep. It's
Speaker 2: very unfortunt run with it friends, very unfortunate. If you
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