1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Ketty. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty, and He Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 3: Malibu mansion, previously owned by talk show host Johnny Carson, 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: was recently listed for sale for one hundred and ten 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 3: million dollars, which features multiple swimming pools and a custom 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 3: built tennis pavilion that had been a gift from NBC. Well, 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: NBC gave me a free trial of Peacock Premium with ads. 9 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I understand if you can't afford it, 10 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: you can't afford it. When I was younger, I probably 11 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: wouldn't have been able to do it either. But I 12 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: cannot handle streaming services that have ads. I just can't 13 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: do it. I just I gotta pay whatever to get 14 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: rid of the ads. 15 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody's in a different financial position, different priorities, et cetera. 16 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, I hear you. Oh that's so annoying. And 17 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: the way they position them, they do a good job 18 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 2: of putting the ads in like the most annoying spot 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 2: of whatever you're watching. It's just been announced that Donald 20 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: Trump's presidential library will be in Miami. That's kind of interesting, 21 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: different topic, so maybe anyway, go ahead. Yet another story 22 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 2: that should be elevated above the brave return of Jimmy 23 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: Kimmel to Lake Nice because who freaking cares? Is that 24 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: phone server bank thingy they found in New York yesterday 25 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: that could have disrupted all of the New York cell 26 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: phone and we're trying to figure out who it is. 27 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: This is the way ABC covered it last night. 28 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: A system so powerful authorities say it could have been 29 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: used to disrupt all cell phone service for the entire 30 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 4: city of New York, including police, fire and ems. The 31 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 4: so called sim farm capable of sending thirty million text 32 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 4: messages a minute, source of selling ABC News the operation 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: is connected to the Chinese government sought he found the 34 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: sim farm while investigating anonymous threatening calls earlier this year, 35 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 4: targeting three people, including one with direct access to President Trump. 36 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: So that's highly troubling. Obviously, it seems like exactly the 37 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: way you'd lay the groundwork for a giant attack, right, 38 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: we'll discuss after. This is CNN's version of the story. 39 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: Can I you okay real quick? Or ask a follow 40 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: up question? Pierre Thomas there stated that police and fire 41 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: would be unable to communicate with each other because of 42 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: the cell phone system crashing. 43 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: Is that right? 44 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: Surely we have a redundancy or radios or something that 45 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: doesn't depend on the civilian system. 46 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah, I don't know. That's horrifying. If anybody 47 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: knows about that, we'd love to hear from him. 48 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 5: That's what we do know is that foreign governments and 49 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 5: criminals located in the United States are using this network 50 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 5: to run their organizations. That includes cartels, that includes human traffickers, 51 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 5: that includes terrorists are on this network. 52 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 6: If there is some organization behind this, we have to 53 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 6: assume that there's one in LA one in Washington, d C. 54 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 6: Another in Chicago, because if it's a nation state that 55 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 6: wants to attack infrastructure during crisis to break communications and 56 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 6: we don't know exactly what the timing of that crisis 57 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 6: would be for the type, that's the kind of thing 58 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 6: that the Secret Service, the Director of National Intelligence, Home 59 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 6: Land Security, and I'm sure eventually the FBI will have 60 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 6: to really work to get to the bottom of. 61 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's John Miller on CNN who used to be 62 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: in the FBI and has great sources. 63 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a sleeper cell or a sleeper virus 64 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: that just lurks on the hard drive until you need it. 65 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot of stuff they're not telling us, 66 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: but they it announced that it is a nation state 67 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: that was behind putting the stuff in, and then they're 68 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: coordinating with people in the United States. But there's only 69 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: a couple of nation states you can imagine that would 70 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: be doing this, right, China, Russia, Iran, maybe North Korea. 71 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: I doubt it. 72 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: It rhymes with Pina, but we can't say anything else 73 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: at this time. 74 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: Uh, how many other. 75 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: Sleeper systems, trip wires, booby traps are in our infrastructure? 76 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: Well how about John Miller saying I hadn't even thought 77 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: this that you have to assume that if they had 78 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: one in New York, they got it in all the 79 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: other major cities also, yeah, yeah, well that makes sense. 80 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: I was thinking of it more in terms of a 81 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: plot against something happening in New York, since New York 82 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: is New York, home of the UN and financial capital 83 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: of the world, and the rest of it. 84 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: Worth pointing out that while it was announced yesterday, the 85 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: week of the UN meeting, which made it seem like 86 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: was it something about the UN It was discovered quite 87 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: a while back, so they just announced it yesterday for 88 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: some reason. 89 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: Right, But to finish my thought that what you just 90 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: expressed makes more sense if it is a Chinese you know, uh, 91 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: a weapon waiting to be deployed, a sleep or weapon, 92 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: it makes much much more sense to have it deployed 93 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: much more in a widespread fashion. 94 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. And if you've ever gotten halfway to work and 95 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 2: realized you didn't bring your cell phone and it seems like, 96 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: oh my god. 97 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 7: Oh my god, how is my life possibly going to 98 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 7: function if I don't have my phone with me? Oh am, 99 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 7: I good to even though you know, if you're of 100 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 7: a certain age, you used to go to work without 101 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 7: a cell phone and everything that comes with it all 102 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 7: the time, and you were perfectly fine. You drove across 103 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 7: the country you want, on vacations, you did everything you 104 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 7: did without a cell phone. 105 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: You were fine. But nobody can anymore, and we all 106 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: feel like in a panic and naked. Imagine if your 107 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: cell phone didn't work, but you're getting some sort of 108 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: news about they're the attack of some sort a nine 109 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: to eleven style attack anywhere, and all of a sudden, 110 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: cell phones don't work imagine the panic that that would 111 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 2: sew nationwide. It's just it's something from a horror movie. Yeah, 112 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: you think, oh my god, I need to get a 113 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: hold of my kids and you can't, or your wife 114 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: or your husband or whatever. 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And the answer would be, well, I'd 118 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: grab my cell phone and I would dial, or I 119 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: would click on, or I would tune in, or I 120 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: would be no, you will do nothing, friends. 121 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 2: I would get on Twitter for all the latest this 122 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: and that, and I would head home and the first 123 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: thing I would do is jump on my GPS thing 124 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: on my phone to figure out the traffic, because traffic 125 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: is in gridlock out there as everybody's in a panic, 126 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: and nobody has access to any of that through their 127 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: cell phone. Wi Fi would still work, wouldn't it, I assume. 128 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: Unless they bring that down to the insidious Chinese communist 129 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: hortus already thought of that. 130 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure what just on a broader worse which might 131 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: make things worse. I mean, if if some people had 132 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: some information and then as soon as you get away 133 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: from your building with Wi Fi. You got no communication. 134 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: I just can't imagine the panic that would. Oh yeah, 135 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: it's horrendous, horrendus. 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Ye. 176 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: They parked all these trucks across the world's biggest suspension bridge, 177 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: which they built in like nine months, across some giant 178 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: gorge and it's just stunning structure. Just to show that 179 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: they could build that sort of thing that fast. That 180 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: he parked all these giant trucks on it to show 181 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: how strong it is, so you couldn't make the comment, well, 182 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: probably fall apart. And I was just thinking, you know 183 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 2: those stories that you hear all the time about how 184 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: we built the Empire State Building in six months during depression. 185 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: Now it takes the thirty years to lay one mile 186 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: of track for a supposed bullet train. Because of all 187 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: kinds of environmental concerns and this and that, we can't 188 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 2: do anything anymore. So you've got that aspect of it. 189 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: Then you got the whole security state versus non security 190 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: state thing. But I think it's worth pointing out that 191 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: China is not Johnny Knoxville. I mean, they're not running 192 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: a jackass operation. Where wouldn't it be funny if we 193 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: shut off their cell phones and watch how they panic. 194 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: They have a goal. Their goal is to supplant us 195 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 2: as the world's hyperpower. So yeah, I got to think 196 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: in terms of what they're not like the Muslim fanatics 197 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: where they just want to knock down a building. I mean, 198 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: they have a goal. So what sort of thing would 199 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: they do where they then shut down our cell phones 200 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: in all our major cities. I can't imagine what that 201 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: would be. Oh, my goodness. You know, our goal would 202 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: have to be to defeat our military, do enough damage 203 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: to our military or our economy like Japan hoped to 204 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: do on Pearl Harbor, that we can't fight back, that 205 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: they could win a war, that they could do whatever 206 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: they want. 207 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: Well, the economy and our liberties are the engine that 208 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: drives everything, including our military. No economy, no military, And 209 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: so as China seek global supremacy and tries to line 210 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: up as many countries as possible on their team as 211 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: opposed to our team in the case of the Bridge, 212 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: they're sending the message, Hey, we're effective, period, we get 213 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: stuff done. These people are so wrapped up in their 214 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: own you know, legal system and stated principles they can't 215 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: get anything done. Oh and by the way, they're going 216 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: to lecture you on your human rights. We don't give 217 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: a crap. And in an effort to surpass us economically 218 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: or just weaken us economically, that might be reason enough 219 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: to take down the cell system in New York for 220 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, three or four days, none all of a sudden, 221 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: like the denial of service attacks and the ransomware attacks, 222 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: all of a sudden. 223 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: Oh, look at that no. 224 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: Hospital on the West coast can conduct its business because 225 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: we've met with their systems or something like that. Just 226 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: one after the other every couple of months, that might 227 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: be enough. 228 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: Combine that with a drone attack on all our big 229 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: military bases. 230 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so you're going for the big, big attack. 231 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to point out it doesn't need to be that. 232 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 2: All that land that they've purchased near military bases across 233 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: the country, that's no good much as shipping containers open 234 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: up and drones fly out like Ukraine did to Russia. 235 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: Are those robot wolves galloping across the landscape? Okay, so 236 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: now we're gonna get silly? Is that what we've decided? 237 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: What what you're taking robot wolves lightly? 238 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: I'm not a robot wolves start galloping across meadows. You're 239 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: running as fast as you can, but it's like your 240 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 2: legs are in quicksand you just can't run any faster, 241 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: and the robots gaining on you. 242 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: They'll put speakers on them so they can howl atl 243 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: Why are they howling? 244 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: They're robots? Oh my god? It first that I thought 245 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: these are some awful scenarios we've laid out. Are we 246 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: are we can tough it up America. Okay, more on 247 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: the waist to hear a school local to where we 248 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 2: broadcast from in Sacramento just voted yesterday to keep having 249 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: boys in girls' sports and we can't believe it. We'll 250 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: talk more about that coming up. Just absolutely amazing. An 251 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: update on my Ukrainian girlfriend. If you've been following this, well, 252 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: if you haven't been following this saga, a quick background, 253 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: so you know, my email has been hacked, like yours 254 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: has a million times. All kinds of people have your 255 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: email address, and some bad actor is trying to get 256 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 2: me involved in a scam, like happens all the time, 257 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: but in this case it love as a scam. In 258 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 2: this case it somebody portrayed themselves as a young Ukrainian 259 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: woman who like immediately was in love with me just 260 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 2: because of my email address or something like that. Jack Armstrong, 261 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: precious fight and she she writes in funny ways. I 262 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: guess you would if you don't you're not a native 263 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: English speaker. She's Ukrainian. She says things like Jack, my 264 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: precious diamond love you know that sort of thing, and 265 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: how much she loves me, and she sends pictures The 266 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: weird thing is all the pictures are like different girls. 267 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: She looks different than the different pictures. But anyway, she's 268 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: like lady guy guys. She's constantly reinventing herself. So what 269 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 2: I was wondering is what was the scam? What's the scam? 270 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: Is it gonna be the as she asks for money? 271 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: Does she get to try to get me to click 272 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: on a link? She did send me like voice memos 273 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: if you would like to hear my voice? How beautiful 274 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: it is? You know here it is, So there was 275 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: something to click on. I did not click on it. 276 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: And I've been like sending one word replies or a 277 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: one sentence replies every now and then. You know, been 278 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: thinking of you all night. You know, how are you? 279 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: That sort of thing? Wow, good man, waiting for waiting 280 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: for the scam? I just wondered, what which kind of 281 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: scam this is? Well, Hanson came up with the idea 282 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: of scam her first tell her you have had a 283 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: medical emergency and need five thousand dollars, or you're in 284 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: jail or whatever it's going to be, ask her for money. 285 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: But we decided to lead up to that, and so 286 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: I had sent this email two days ago. You were 287 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: on my mind the entire weekend. I really want to 288 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: see you, my Buttercup, and I really want to see you. 289 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: Who is gonna be followed by I have almost all 290 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: the money I need for a plane ticket. I just 291 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: need five hundred dollars more or something like that. But 292 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: her response shocked me. All my kisses for you, Jack, 293 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: exclamation point, exclamation point. If you really want to have 294 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: a relationship with me, please answer all the letters I 295 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: wrote to you and all my questions another way. Please 296 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: do not disturb me anymore. Wow. She actually like, if 297 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: you're not gonna actually email me back and participate in 298 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: this relationship, I want out, is the way she responded, 299 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: which is surprising to me. Wow. 300 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: She replied, if I might, don't build me up, Buttercup, 301 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: just to let me down, to quote the old Motowness song. 302 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: So I don't know what to think now. But that's 303 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: a weird scam. 304 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it's good. It's smart. She's trying to 305 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: convince you of her sincerity. 306 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: So that's supposed to make me as a really pathetic, sad, lonely, 307 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: perhaps mentally ill person. Oh no, I'm in jeopardy of 308 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: losing this. 309 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, I've got to be serious about this. 310 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: I've got to treat this girl like she deserves to 311 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: be treated. Yes, God, I got to answer all our questions. 312 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to answer all our questions. He had 313 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: a lot of questions about, like, you know, what's your 314 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: favorite movie or flower or whatever. 315 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. You know the way, you know, the 316 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: way women are with their questions while you're trying to 317 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: watch TV. Did you have a comment, Katie. 318 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 9: No, It just sounds like she's totally trying to guilt 319 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 9: you into keeping this going. Oh okay, gotcha, And I 320 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 9: heavily think you should answer all of the questions and 321 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 9: continue this because this is fantastic entertainment. 322 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: God, we've only been together for two weeks and already 323 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: it's nan And why didn't she answer my question? I 324 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: was working? Do you know what you did? Yeah? Exactly? Okay, 325 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: Well I guess i'll respond. I really want to know 326 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 2: what the ask is going to be. When she's going. 327 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: To be small small ish, I can't remember what the 328 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: term for it is, but she will need a pitdlling 329 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: amount of money. 330 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: She well keep her pretty five dollars. It's either a 331 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: bot or some you know, criminal gang. It's not some 332 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: bearded guy in his mom's basement. 333 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's more likely some poor bastard and slaved 334 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: in Southeast Asia being. 335 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: Forced to do this. Well, because that's what a lot 336 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: of it is. That's not romantic, that's not my buttercup. 337 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 9: Yes, Skatie, Yeah, I think it'll be a small amount, 338 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 9: but for something that's very serious, she'll create some major 339 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 9: crisis and just be like, this is all I need though, 340 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 9: in order to fix it. 341 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 2: And then it's going to grow from there. 342 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: Look at it like a series of interviews. The you 343 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: responded was the first interview. We've looked at your resume 344 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: and it's pretty attractive. We'd like you to come back 345 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: for a second interview. The second interview is the can 346 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: we lure this guy in to sending forty dollars on 347 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: some pretext? And if that happens, then you get the 348 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: full court press. They bring in their real pros. I 349 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: am her precious Rose, at least that's what she says, 350 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: and here is something diamond as well. 351 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: Armstrong Andngetti. 352 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 10: Ukrainian leader Vladimir'slinsky will be addressing the UN General Assembly 353 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 10: after President Donald Trump threatened even more sanctions and tariffs 354 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 10: against Russia during his own speech, and now President Trump 355 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 10: saying that Ukraine, with NATO's help, might be able to 356 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 10: win back land taken by Russia. Those comments from the 357 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 10: President came after this post to truth social where he 358 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 10: described Russia as looking like a paper tiger and how 359 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 10: a quote real military power would have had a quick victory. 360 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a heck of a development that has happened 361 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: in the last twenty four hours. That caught everybody by surprise, 362 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: including the president of Ukraine. Let's listen to a little 363 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 2: of what Trump said. This is after his un speech, 364 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: when he was sitting around with reporters. 365 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 11: Now you got to head it to the Quatian soldiers 366 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 11: and everybody involved. It's still going on, and that's that's 367 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 11: not a good thing for Russia. 368 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: This was supposed to be quick. 369 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 11: And so you know, Russian doesn't look very distinguished having 370 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 11: taken three and a half years now, right about three 371 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 11: and a half years of very hard fighting, and it 372 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 11: looks like it's snuck it in for a long time. 373 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 2: He's sitting with Zelensky, he goes on. 374 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 11: So we'll see what happens. But the other side can 375 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 11: fight too, and they've proven that. Maybe it's a pay 376 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 11: It could be that Russia is a paper tiger. I 377 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 11: don't know what they are. But three and a half 378 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 11: years of fighting and killing everybody and killing seven thousand people. 379 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 10: A week. 380 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 11: For nothing, for nothing. So it's a very sad situation. 381 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 11: But most of you have seen the recent statement I 382 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 11: put out a little while ago, and I'm glad you 383 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 11: got it, but I feel that way. I really don't 384 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 11: feel that we let them get their land back. 385 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: Yep. 386 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 11: So we'll see how it all works out. 387 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: So the statement Trump referring to, after getting to know 388 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: and fully understand the Ukraine Russia military and economic situation, 389 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: and after seeing the economic trouble it's causing Russia, I 390 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 2: think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is 391 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: in a position to fight and win all of Ukraine 392 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: back in its original form with time patients, in the 393 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: financial support of Europe and in particular NATO, the original 394 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: borders from where this war started is very much an option. 395 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: Wow, the heck of a thing to say, see in that? 396 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: Or is that a bargaining position? 397 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, well, yeah, could could be. 398 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: I mean, he wants the war to end. I mean, 399 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 2: if this, if this would scare Russia into an agreement 400 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: of some sort. 401 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: I think it's notable that Moscow responded with mockery and humor. 402 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: Kremlin spokesman said Russia is in no way at tie. 403 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: Russia is more compared. 404 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: With a bear. There are no paper bears. 405 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: And then the Medvedyev mocked Trump's new position, saying you'd 406 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: been given a dose of alternative reality and mocked Trump 407 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: Trump's changing views. 408 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: I have no doubt he will come back. He always 409 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: comes back. 410 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: The main thing is to radically change your point of 411 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: view on various issues more often, and everything will be fine. 412 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: That's the essence of successful government through social media. 413 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: Trump's post was very, very long. Most people are only 414 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: reading part of it, but a little more of it. 415 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: When the people living in Moscow and all the great cities, 416 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: towns and districts all throughout Russia find out what is 417 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: really going on with this war, I thought that might 418 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: be a tell. Are we about to somehow figure out 419 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: a way to distribute that information to the people of Russia. Anyway, 420 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 2: The fact that it's almost impossible for them to get 421 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: gasoline through the long lines that are being formed and 422 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: all other things that are taking place in their war economy, 423 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: where most of their money is being spent on fighting Ukraine, 424 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: which has great spirit and is only getting better. Ukraine 425 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: would be able to take back their country in its 426 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: original form, and who knows, maybe even go further than that. 427 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: What is that maybe Ukraine off a little Russia. Maybe 428 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: Ukraine takes some of your land. What do you think 429 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: of that? Putting in Russia are in big economic trouble 430 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: and this is the time for Ukraine to act in 431 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: any event, I wish both countries well, what good luck 432 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 2: to all? He says, thank you for your attention to 433 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: this matter, and he said, we will continue to supply 434 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: weapons to NATO for NATO to do to do what 435 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: they want with them. This is a long way from 436 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: where we were Trump. It's a long way from where 437 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: we were with Biden. 438 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just I'm so perplexed by this 439 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: and have no idea what to expect. We got this note, 440 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: we asked to it, what do you think the Kremlin's 441 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: strategy is in mocking Trump? 442 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: Impossible to imagine what the upside is. But Putin's a 443 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: smart guy. Well, you've got to at least consider this 444 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: from Terry. I think China and Russia have a plan together. 445 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: If they draw Trump into some stupid, smaller problem, China 446 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: now has their chance to assert themselves. I think she 447 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: means they know that the Western world is very reluctant 448 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: to ever use nuclear weapons. I don't think Putin and 449 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: she are as reluctant. I could one. 450 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: Hundred percent picture Shijin Ping having the following conversation, mister chairman, 451 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: an exchange of nuclear weapons will cost one and a 452 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: half million lives on each side, But we believe that 453 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: would then neutralize the United States blah blah blah, because 454 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: they would fear every using them again. Are you willing 455 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 1: to trade those million and a half lives? And she 456 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: would say absolutely, Yeah, let's do it. 457 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: I don't think we would fire back with nuclear weapons. 458 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 2: I think we'd absorb it. I've read enough about this. 459 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: I think that is our current stance. We would just 460 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: absorb it, try to negotiate something which is be fine 461 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 2: with China and Russia. Probably. Yeah. So, I know a 462 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: lot of people listening think this is some sort of 463 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 2: crazy talk. This is absolutely one hundred percent the history 464 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: of the world. This is what has happened every single 465 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 2: time with every more powerful tribe, without every more powerful country. 466 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you name the circumstance. This is what always happens. 467 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: The up and comer at some point strikes against the 468 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: aging lion, you know, the lion that is no longer 469 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 2: the king of this particular jungle. And and just to 470 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 2: think that it's not going to happen again, you're foolish. 471 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: I need to point out that we have literally invoked 472 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: lions and tigers and bears in this discussion. Oh my, 473 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: but you're you're absolutely right. But here, here's here's a 474 00:24:54,440 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: real twist for you. The only way that's quicker to 475 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: bring on horrific quality conflict than resisting them is to 476 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: give in to them. Then you're really going to get 477 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: a horrific conflict. Going Yeah, I don't know, Martin. 478 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: I mean, finding those phone servers around New York and 479 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: now finding out that they're probably all over the country, 480 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: in every major city with the ability to shut down 481 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: our cell phone service. There are barbarians at the gate. Yeah, 482 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: I mean they're staring at the gate, peering in between 483 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: the bars. You can see Oh no, no, no, they're inside. 484 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: They're in Rome ooching around openly in our open society. 485 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking about. 486 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: This speaking of thirty thousand foot of views, and this 487 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: is just me thinking I'm not in favor of this 488 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: per se. But how many times have you heard me 489 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: going on about how the post WW two global economy 490 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: was a unique woment in hit that would never be repeated, 491 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: where the US stood astride the world like a colossus. 492 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: Europe was decimated, Japan was decimated, the rest of Asia 493 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: was still living in huts, and we did the vast 494 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: majority of the manufacturing of advanced products throughout the world. 495 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: And you could stumble out of high school a half 496 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: wit in Detroit, Michigan, get a job at the Ford 497 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: Motor Plant, and be profitably employed, get yourself a nice 498 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: house in a car in the suburbs, and raise your 499 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: kids and have a lovely life in America and everything 500 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: subsequent to that, people have. 501 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: Said, well, what happened to that? That's the American tream. 502 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: Now there was a snapshot in time. Okay, So here's 503 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: my question, and that was only for some people. Everybody 504 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 2: focuses on the people who lived in Detroit and got 505 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: to work for GM. But wasn't that way for a 506 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: lot of the country. 507 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely true. Yeah, So here's the question for you. And 508 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: we were talking about this, when was the last hour 509 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: and earlier this hour. It doesn't matter ken a technically 510 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: advanced open society compete successfully against a technically advanced totalitarian 511 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: society that is a police state and does not have 512 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: nearly the vulnerabilities we do internally as we do. Okay, So, 513 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: having set that or long preamble, here's my question. And 514 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: if you've studied the constitution and individual rights in America, 515 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: you know they have varied a lot through our history. 516 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: They've gone up, they've gone down, free speech, censorship. Hell, 517 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: we had slaves at one point. Perhaps you heard that 518 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: in your local school. Anyway, it's all kind of gone 519 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: up and down through the years. Could it be that 520 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: the post say civil rights movement late twentieth century early 521 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: twenty first century America of civil liberties and lack of 522 00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: government intrusion was also a moment in time that will 523 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: not be repeated because it makes us too vulnerable to 524 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: a technically advanced, gigantic, economically powerful totalitarian state. 525 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 2: Well, that discussion will be had after the result of 526 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 2: whatever is going to happen. 527 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: I'm guessing, so you don't have the courage to answer 528 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: me having asked you a question that really requires a 529 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: five hundred page book. 530 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: Anyway, Well, all right, so what one more sentence from 531 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: what Trump truthed out yesterday. I mean, this is some 532 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: this should be taken very seriously, such a big deal. 533 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: But anyway, I'll have another sentence for you after this. Yeah, 534 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: word from our friends at web root. You've heard about 535 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: the TransUnion breach hit over four million people. That's not 536 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: just a glitch, it's a disaster. And that sort of 537 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: thing happens way too often, and that's why we think 538 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: you should trust web Brute. Total protection is not just 539 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: anti virus, its identity protection from up to ten people, 540 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 2: dark monitoring, up to a million bucks in fraud expensary enforcement, 541 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: and that's not all. Yeah, if you get your identity stolen, 542 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: it's going to be a nightmare trying to fix it. 543 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: I've known people who have gone through this with Webroot. 544 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: You also get a VPN cloud backup, twenty four to 545 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: seven US based support, love US based support. They even 546 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: have an elder fraud hotline, which is huge for families. 547 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: It protects everyone. Toddler's students seniors. Webroot Total Protection is 548 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: built for real households and you can get fifty percent 549 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: off webroot Total Protection or webroot Essentials at webroot dot 550 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: com slash armstrong. That's webroot dot com slash armstrong. 551 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: Again, maybe you go for the webroot Total Protection that's 552 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: a great idea, or webroot Essentials go to webroot dot 553 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: com slash armstrong. 554 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: First of all, where's JD vance? And those of you 555 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: who agree with his stance on Ukraine? Ain our circus, 556 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: not our monkeys. We shouldn't even be involved in this. 557 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: Were that part of maga? How did they feel about 558 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: Trump coming out? 559 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 12: Yeah? 560 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: I think Ukraine could give back all their land and 561 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: maybe even more. And what's JD saying right now? I 562 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 2: want and we're here to help you. But part of 563 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 2: Trump's very long post yesterday was Russia has been fighting 564 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: aimlessly for three and a half years, a war that 565 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: it should have, that should have taken a real military 566 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: power less than a week to win. That's one odd 567 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: and troubling thing to say, but that's what God under 568 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: Putin's skin, I think would have taken a real military 569 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: power less than a week to win. This is not 570 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: distinguishing Russia. In fact, it's very much making look like 571 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: a paper tiger. That's quitny thing about unprovoked aggression and 572 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: wars of conquest or how it was morally wrong and 573 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: any no no, which would have been nice. Probably Yeah, 574 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: how this plays out, I have no idea. The Washington 575 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: Post columnist says it's Trump sensing weakness, maybe with some 576 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: data to back that up, that their military and economy 577 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: economy are about to fall. Yeah. 578 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: So my question is, will you and your Ukrainian girlfriend 579 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: live here in the States or will you probably settle 580 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. 581 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: I'd be a heck of a thing. Huh. I've decided 582 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: to move to Ukraine. Which reminds me. 583 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: We got a handful of emails from folks who said 584 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: all of those questions about your favorite, this, that, and 585 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: the other is they're trying to plumb data to get 586 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: your passwords. Oh interesting, because they have algorithms and computers 587 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: and that really helps them. My passwords have nothing to 588 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: do with any of that stuff, but I'll bet it does. 589 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: Most of the time. It often does. Yeah. Yeah, so 590 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: I'm really dumb bad I have really dumb bad passwords. 591 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: It's a multi pronged attack where they'll try to get 592 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: a little cash from you and then a little more cash, 593 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: and during that process they're also trying to figure out 594 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: how to steal your identity, speaking of web route. 595 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: Protection, and then yeah, then that would be a nightmare. 596 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: Webroot dot com slash arms from there, I am living 597 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: in a war torn country or here. Either way you'll 598 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 2: be penniless and a fool with someone who appears to 599 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: be about a third by age. So I don't know 600 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: what are we gonna have in common? Kidneys Hanson says, 601 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: I'm my kidneys. We don't speak the same language. I 602 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't like our chances. We have so 603 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 2: many more things we've got to get to. 604 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom was making a fool of himself on national 605 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: television again. 606 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: He was on he's almost as funny as Kamala. Oh yeah, 607 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: we got some Kamal eclipse she's making. She she's having 608 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: one of the worst launches of a book tour in 609 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: the history of book tours. So we got a lot 610 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: of good stuff on the way. Stay here, Jack Armstrong, 611 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 2: my precious. We're gonna talk AI and our three. I've 612 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: been using three different AI platforms and comparing them. I 613 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: want to talk about that. 614 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: So the lefties who are refusing to say pass a 615 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: resolution honoring Charlie Kirk and the Congress are constantly saying, well, 616 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: he would question the intelligence of black women, or he 617 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: would say racially divisive things, because if you don't go 618 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: with the progressive left's view of race and racism and 619 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: the rest of it, they accuse you of being a racist, 620 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: even though they are wrong and absolutely flamingly counterproductive. Instead 621 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: of talking about the idiot Jimmy Kimmel, let's talk about 622 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk in his message. Here is a great conversation 623 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: he had on a college campus. 624 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 13: It is a fact, obviously that black people disproportionately commit 625 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 13: crime in this country. You know what's arguing that. But 626 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 13: you either believe that that is due to a complex 627 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 13: intersection of social, economic and like leftover effects from previous inequalities, 628 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 13: or you believe that that is an inherent trait to 629 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 13: the race. 630 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: No, I don't, because they weren't that way. 631 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 12: In the nineteen forties and fifties, Black America was one 632 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 12: of the most peaceful, flourishing, fastest growing economically communities in 633 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 12: the country. It's not genetic. You're trying to point something 634 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 12: on me that I don't believe. Instead that I believe. 635 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 13: That it's non genetics. So you do think CRT is correct. 636 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 12: In the nineteen forties and nineteen fifties, Black America was 637 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 12: prosperous and was on pace to be richer and wealthier 638 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 12: than white America. More dads were staying with the women 639 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 12: that they were with, There was monogamy. 640 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 13: What change you're supporting my argument? 641 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: Hold on, but what answered the question? What change? 642 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 12: Did America get more racists since nineteen fifty to nineteen? 643 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 13: I would argue there were more racist policies passed. There 644 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 13: were more policies dedicated in the nineteen fifties pushing them 645 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 13: into poor housing and poor schools. 646 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 12: Wait a second. In the nineteen fifties, Jackie Robinson had 647 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 12: not even broken the color barrier. We had Jim Crow laws, 648 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 12: we hadn't passed the Civil Rights Act, and we hadn't 649 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 12: passed the Voting Rights Act. Yet blacks were better in 650 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 12: the nineteen fifties per capita than they are today. So 651 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 12: we have become less racist, We've passed more anti racist 652 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 12: laws and given more stuff, and blacks are worse than 653 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 12: they were seventy years ago. 654 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 13: Why so you're equating here institutional and social racism. Social 655 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 13: racism was certainly worse in the nineteen fifties, I'm sure 656 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 13: everyone would agree. But institutional racism occurs when policies are 657 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 13: passed against people come on, which can increase over time. 658 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 12: You're not being intellectually honest. You know that there was 659 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 12: black only drinking fountains in the nineteen fifties. We don't 660 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 12: have those any anymore. Well, we're bringing it back with 661 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 12: you know, black only dormitories. 662 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 2: But we had we had. 663 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 12: We had for example, in the in the Antebellum South 664 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 12: in the nineteen fifties, we had white only communities, white 665 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 12: by law. We got rid of that with the Civil 666 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 12: Rights Act, but it didn't Unfortunately, we look around. The 667 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 12: numbers speak for themselves. Black youth are less likely that fathers. 668 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 12: They're not doing as well as far as economically, they 669 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 12: commit more crime. So something changed, And our argument is 670 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 12: what changed is three things. Number one, the imposition of 671 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 12: the Great Society Project by Lyndon Baines Johnson of spending 672 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 12: thirty trillion dollars since nineteen sixties on Section eight housing, 673 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 12: on welfare on you know, all sorts of where as 674 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 12: I said that young black women married the government and 675 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 12: the divorced young black men. And then we also have 676 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 12: had the as Thomas Soul and as Clarence Thomas would say, 677 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 12: the soft bigotry of law expectations, and we have been 678 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 12: afraid to get to the root of the issue or 679 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 12: even speak about it because we don't be called the racist. 680 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 13: So who what is imposing those low expectations. 681 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 12: It's part of it is like white academic culture. I'll 682 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 12: give you an example. I'm not saying you believe this, 683 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,720 Speaker 12: but Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States, 684 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 12: has come out and said having an ID to vote 685 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 12: is racist. Now is code for saying black people are 686 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 12: too dumb to get a voter ID. 687 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm surprised Charlie didn't answer directly her question by saying 688 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: progressive policies. I mean, I agree with her in a 689 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: weird way that the institutional legal framework. 690 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: In America damaged Black America. 691 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: I believe that one hundred percent, and it was practically 692 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: one hundred percent from progressives who did that damage. 693 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not intentionally racist policies, though the idea being 694 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 2: forced into bad housing, bad schools. Right. 695 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: No, it's it's building a culture of dependence see and 696 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: non self sufficiency. That's one of the most horrifying, cruel 697 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: things you could do to a person. 698 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 2: Big picture, big picture takeaway from that, though, aside from 699 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: the specifics that guy got shot, I got murdered for that, 700 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 2: having those kind of conversations. We need so many more 701 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 2: of those kind of conversations on every topic. Yep. It's 702 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 2: very unfortunt run with it friends, very unfortunate. If you 703 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 2: missed a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on 704 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 2: demand Armstrong and Getty