1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Hello, because you're a subscriber to this Bloomberg podcast. We 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: thought you'd be interested in a sponsored podcast called The 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Stewards of Compassion, presented by Begrim and produced by Bloomberg 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Media Studios. Find out how a vision by a young 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: pioneering pharmacist looking to do good in his new home 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: of Thailand yielded one of Asia's most impactful businesses. We 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: hope you enjoy the first episode of this two part special. 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: Thailand a vibrant economy, the second largest in Southeast Asia 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: with a GDP exceeding five hundred billion dollars, a global 10 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: tourism magnet while coming over thirty five million travelers each year, 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: and a land of rich cultural heritage stretching back more 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: than eight hundred years. But beyond the bustling markets and 13 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: the golden temples lies a lesser known story, the rise 14 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: of a company that began in eighteen seventy eight as 15 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: a modest pharmacy in Bangkok, introducing Western medicine to the city. 16 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: That company, Bigrim, as the oldest company in Thailand, is 17 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: a global powerhouse today, from energy to real estate and 18 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: transport to healthcare. It has become one of Thailand's most 19 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: remarkable success stories. In this two part special podcast, Dr 20 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: Harold Link, chairman of Begrim, takes us on a journey 21 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: through the company's extraordinary history. How did it survive the 22 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: turmoil of two World Wars? What does it take to 23 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: thrive in Thai society for nearly one hundred and fifty years? 24 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: And what's next for this pioneering conglomerate. That and more 25 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: in this series At the Heartipital lies a question what 26 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: keeps a company alive for nearly one hundred and fifty years? 27 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: For Bgrim, the answer is simple, yet profound. Companies too 28 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: have a soul. 29 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: Companies also have a soul? Or can companies go on 30 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: over hundreds of years even though the people change all 31 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: the time? Who can call it a corporate culture? And 32 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: I think there's more to it. There's something like a soul. 33 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: The Begrim story starts in eighteen seventy eight, with a 34 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: population of roughly five million people. Thailand was already a 35 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: well established trading hub. It had exports like rice, tea, sugar, 36 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: all of which helped to keep the economy alive. The 37 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: country was also navigating the challenges of turn of the 38 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: century modernization. It was in these conditions that the Siam 39 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: Dispensary was established and later taken on by a young 40 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: German pharmacist, Adolf Link, who had quickly gained the respect 41 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: of the dispensary. 42 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: They figured out that what we could contribute best to 43 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 2: tae society must make the health spanner. And so about 44 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: this medicine, it's difficult to mention nowadays when healths ale pervasive, 45 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: especially in Thailand. Tanland is such a great place for 46 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: foreigners to come and improve their health. But at that 47 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: time there were no modern medicines available, and there are 48 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: some illnesses that you cannot here with hubs. And so 49 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: that was a great contribution to time society, and that 50 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: actually has been the guiding principle for Begrim for the 51 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: last one hundred forty six years. How can we do 52 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: with something good for society? 53 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: The modest dispensary didn't take long to make a name 54 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: for itself, earning recognition not just in the local community, 55 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: but even among societies elite. 56 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: We got the coat of arms from King Rama the fifth, 57 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: already in the very beginning of a company, which is 58 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: given for outstanding service to the crown. At that time 59 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: was an absolute monarchy. So we did it to the government, 60 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: and we're the only company in Thailand that got the 61 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: coat of arms from King Ram of the fifth. 62 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: Back then, Thailand was modernizing quickly, and receiving the royal 63 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: coat of arms put b Grim right at the center 64 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: of this exciting transformation. By the early nineteen hundreds, Begrim 65 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: was taking on major infrastructure projects. 66 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: So we sometimes do things that are different, like we 67 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: have the first telegraph in Thailand and King Ram of 68 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: the fifth even wrote about it. We were the first 69 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: to import radio systems to Thailand. We were among the 70 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: first to support this now very important hospital which was 71 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: built by King Ram of the fifth. So you can 72 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: see that our family always tried to do something good 73 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 2: for society and always helpful whenever happened. So they built 74 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: the biggest infrastructure project in Southeast Asia, one thousand and 75 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: five hundred kilometers of irrigation canals. 76 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: Despite challenges, Bigrim continued to operate through both World Wars 77 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: under the leadership of Herbert Link, Harold's uncle. After the war, 78 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: Begrim successfully regained its distributorships and expanded its business. Under 79 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: Herbert Link's leadership, do. 80 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: You have to have perseverance, And I think that's very 81 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: strong in our family. We always persevere and no matter 82 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: what happens, we have a goal and we keep on going. 83 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: This perseverance became the cornerstone of Begram's post war recovery. 84 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: After rebuilding began diversifying its operations, Thailand went through a 85 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: period of rapid industrialization after the war. GDP per capita doubled, 86 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: rodent rail networks increased, as did life expectancy. Foreign businesses 87 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: continued to play an important role in the economy. 88 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: From medicines to building the largest infrastructure project. Sometimes susgest 89 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: people looking at opportunities and they have the courage to 90 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: do it. 91 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: M Kathleen and Kylie Minogue when you're watching MTV. Doctor 92 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: Link brought that same courage and perseverance when he took 93 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: over as chairman and CEO in nineteen eighty seven. He 94 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: led the company as it expanded, especially in power generation. 95 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: In Thailand, there was no space for being an energy 96 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 2: producer until the government opened the opportunity in the early 97 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: nineteen nineties. When the opportunity showed itself to us for 98 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: industrial park on one of our friends, Amata. Then we 99 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: joined and made it happen. So now we are Thaighland's 100 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: narchest industrial electricity producers outside the government, and we also 101 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: have the wider distribution network. Now we are active in 102 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: fifteen different countries. We became active in the Philippines and Vietnam. 103 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: We built the largest solar plant in Southeast Asia. Thailand, 104 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: we built the largest hybrid solar on water farm in 105 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: the world. I made an agreement in Australia with an 106 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: aboriginal group who didn't want to talk for lawyers, and 107 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: we got an area in the same size as Singapore 108 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: to build wind farms and solar farms. In Italy we 109 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: became very active. We have already over five productivity mega 110 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: what's the under development. Very fortunate that we could find 111 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: this most beautiful hydro power plant in the north of California, 112 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: and now we're actually talking to buy into many more 113 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: of these hydro power plants. Where we go, we try 114 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: to become part of the society there and support their causes. 115 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: While energy became one of Beigram's core businesses, the company 116 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: never forgot its roots in healthcare. As Thailand's pharmaceutical landscape evolved, 117 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: so did Beigram's ambitions in this space. 118 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: We have been in the pharmaceutical business now for one 119 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: hundred and forty seven years. Only the last about twenty 120 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: over years we have that pharmaceutical business mainly in a 121 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: joint venture with pharmaceutical company from Germany Mark, which happens 122 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: to be the oldest in the world, and we just 123 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: want to go back to that one. So we wanted 124 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: to add to the medicines we make with merk and 125 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: become a producer again. And that is all also a 126 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: business that we can bring to the work. So that 127 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: company is already exporting to trendy countries because it has 128 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: an excellent factory and manufacturing capabilite. 129 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: In Begram's journey from a small dispensary to a global 130 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: enterprise is a testament to the company's resilience and its 131 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: commitment to doing good for society, whether in energy, infrastructure 132 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 1: or pharmaceuticals. The company's guiding principle remains the same. 133 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: Sometimes people ask you do your business, but at the 134 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 2: same time you do a lot of what they're called 135 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: philanthropic work form. This is just one and the same thing, 136 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: because our businesses should be good for society. 137 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: We explore the incredible journey of BGRIM from its humble 138 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: beginnings as a pharmacy in nineteenth century Bangkok to becoming 139 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: a global conglomerate. Along the way, we saw how resilience, adaptability, 140 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: and a commitment to doing good helped the company to 141 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: navigate world wars, economic upheavals, and the ever changing tides 142 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: of history. But the story doesn't end here. In the 143 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: next episode, we'll go beyond Begrim's history to uncover its soul, 144 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: the philosophy that drives its decisions, inspires its people, and 145 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: shapes its future. From protecting tigers to nurturing talent, and 146 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: from the four p's to the power of compassion, we'll 147 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: dive into the heart of what makes Bgrim more than 148 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: just a business. Join us as chairman, Doctor Linc shares 149 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: how purpose and compassion fuel a company that continues to 150 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: thrive after nearly one hundred and fifty years. B Grim 151 00:09:52,840 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: empowering the world compassionately. Ya