1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: Armstrong, and Jettie and no he Armstrong and yetdy. So 4 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: this order will make it socially acceptable for a man 5 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: in his seventies to date a twenty four year olds. 6 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: That's right. 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: We're calling it the Belichick Law. 8 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: We're gonna make girlfriends young again. Okay, old men can 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: nowdate far younger women. We like that. It's hot, but 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: in reverse, it's quite disgusting. 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: Right, very dateline. You know that's funny. That's from Saturday 12 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: Night Live. The whole Belichick thing. He cannot be digging 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: that it's getting more attention than his book. His book 14 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: has kind of been obscured by the whole Oh wait, 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: you're dating one of the former cheerleaders you met on 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: a to a game. 17 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah. 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: His whole persona is grumpy and proud, so being the 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 1: object of ridicule is probably not great. 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't sit real comfortably. 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 3: Or he's in love and having the time of his 22 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: life and he doesn't care, which might be his attitude, right, 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 3: which kind of fits in a little bit with uh this. 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: So hold on. 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'll stand by everybody coughing fit. We have 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: a coughing fit. 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we do a couple of days away from a 28 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: full month of being sick like this, which is crazy. 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: Hold on, I think I can do it. 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: You know, we got to be like a music radio 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: show that runs like groovy music in the background to 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: make it feel like there's forward momentum. 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: That's why they did that. Yeah, it's hard to imagine 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: listening to this radio program. 35 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I could jump in every time you 36 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: have to cough, but I don't necessarily have anything to 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: say because you're mid sentence. 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: Right, and I've got something planned. So our adult life, 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: Warren Buffett has been one of the richest people in 40 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: the world. He's an investor, and he's from my part 41 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: of the country, the Oracle of Omaha. I'm from Kansas, 42 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: and so I just always liked his lives in a 43 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: little house in a small town, very basic, sort of 44 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: Midwest guy vibe. I've always liked his kind of conservative view, 45 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: like personally conservative view of of you know, long term 46 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: planning and not conspicuous consumption and all. 47 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: That sort of vibe. He also. 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 3: Has said some just freaking horrible things that have been 49 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 3: just completely out of line that have disrupted our political conversation. 50 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: His his bs my secretary pays lower taxes than I 51 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: do and doesn't write that's not right is one of 52 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: the most misleading and stupid conversations we've had in America. 53 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: So you've got that also. But anyway, he finally stepped 54 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: down over the weekend age ninety three. I think he 55 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: is at the end of the year, isn't he? 56 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 3: He announced HISSI he announced it over the weekend, and 57 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: he's handing it off to some guy from Iowa that 58 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: I constantly heard. The guy still lives in Des Moines, 59 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: Like it's just so shocking that this guy, who's also 60 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 3: really rich would stay there. As I was talking about 61 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: last week, I personally know people who would rather kill 62 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: themselves than live in New York. But everybody who lives 63 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: in New York thinks the only reason we don't live 64 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: in New York is because we haven't figured out how 65 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: to get there. 66 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: It's just I find that so frustrating. 67 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: Do we spend all day longing to live in Manhattan, 68 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: just dreaming of. 69 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: It every day? 70 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 3: We all the rest of us think in La is 71 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: the same way and a bunch of different places, but 72 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: that people are in the country every day get up 73 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 3: and think, I guess I'll go to work, even though 74 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: I don't live in New York or LA. 75 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: I guess there's still some reason to get up. 76 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: All right, fine, right, anyway, So warn Buff's warn Buffet's 77 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: speech on the way out the door. I thought it 78 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: was pretty interesting and will spark conversations. I'm sure he said, 79 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: why doesn't that old rich guy just retire already? He 80 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: must not have a purpose in life outside of money, 81 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: like a lot of people. I used to think that way, 82 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: but it's wrong. Fundamentally, there are two things humans do. 83 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: We produce and we consume. 84 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: That's it. 85 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: Most of us, throughout our lives produce and consume, roughly 86 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: in parody with each other. We make money, and over time, 87 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: even if invest some of it and don't spend it 88 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: immediately after earning it, we expend it. 89 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: All the work we do. 90 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: The economic value we create is offset by the house 91 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: in which we live, the food we eat, the medical 92 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: costs of keeping us alive, the vacations we take, and 93 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: all the myriad other things we consume each day and 94 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: over the course of the years, some of us consume 95 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: more than we produce. This requires some type of external subsidy, 96 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: be it a trust fund, charital support, or government benefits, 97 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: like the way he puts government benefits last, Like, that's 98 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: not the first thing. 99 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: That's Oh no, it happens in rare cases. The government 100 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: supports people. 101 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Back to his text, a small number of 102 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 3: us produce more than we consume, and an even smaller 103 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 3: number produce vastly more than they could ever hope of consuming. 104 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: These people have many different roles and titles. If you 105 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: respect these people and appreciate their contributions to our society, which, 106 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: by the way, I hope you do, because these are 107 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: the people that make it possible for you to eat food. 108 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: You didn't have to grow yourself, live an house. 109 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 3: You didn't have to build yourself and utilize countless technological innovations. 110 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: You didn't have to invent yourself. 111 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, when are they gonna pay their first share? That's 112 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: what I want to know. 113 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 3: You probably call them builders, creators or inventors, founders, entrepreneurs, 114 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: business leaders, titans of industry, pillars of community. 115 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: That's if you respect them, he said. 116 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: If you don't like them, you probably have other terms plutocrats, bourgeoisie, coulos, parasites, vultures, 117 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: hoarders of wealth. 118 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: Is this nineteen nineteen Russia or time. 119 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: It's kind of interesting that he's got this point of 120 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: view that I agree with, while at the same time 121 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: perpetuating that fraud tax statement that he put. 122 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: Out there, isn't it? Yeah, that is odd. I mean, 123 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: he'd has to know better. He's a financial genius. 124 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: Anyway, back to what he said, going back to the 125 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: old rich person at the start of this, that guy, 126 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: whether you respect him or not, attained his position in 127 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: society by virtue. Having been a net producer. He's produced 128 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: more than he's consumed. His outputs total more than the 129 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: sum of his inputs. Put simply, he's planted and harvested 130 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: more than he's eaten. 131 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: People who produce. 132 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: Like that over the course of their lives don't do 133 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: so because they want to one day start consuming more. 134 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: Men and women who spend each day as net producers 135 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: don't just switch it off one day and become a 136 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: net consumer. Vacations, rounds of golf, restaurant outings, and movies 137 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 3: showing simply aren't satisfying to someone whose mind not to 138 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: mention whose heart, whose animating spirit is wired for producing. 139 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: It simply doesn't work that way. You might not understand it. 140 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: You might not understand these people, and that's fine. For 141 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 3: much of my life I didn't either. But don't question 142 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: what drives them just because it's not what drives you. 143 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 3: Because these are the men and women who built our society, 144 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: explored new worlds, and vented the wondrous technologies we use 145 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: every day, and created the works of art and literature 146 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: we get to enjoy. And they're the ones who will 147 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: keep building, keep creating, and keep making it possible for 148 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: future generations to enjoy these things even greater. 149 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: He is simultaneously right and overstating his case. In my opinion, 150 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: I completely get his point, and it's eloquently put, and 151 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. At the same time, I've known plenty 152 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: I know right now, plenty of people who one hundred 153 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: percent answered to that description and then said, you know what, 154 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: that's enough producing, and now I am going to play 155 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: golf and go out to dinner and go to shows. 156 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: Oh and you know, support charities, and you know I will. 157 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: I will repurpose my life. I suppose you could argue 158 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: they're still producing in a way, but I think it's 159 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: a fairly extreme case or rare case that takes it 160 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: damn near to the foot of the grave. Like Warren 161 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: Buffett will I'm not criticizing, I'm just saying, you're out there. 162 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: That's sort of his point though, that it is a 163 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: small number who are so animated by that that's all 164 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: they want to do. 165 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, clear to the end, right right. 166 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: It sounded like to me he was being a bit 167 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: more broad that if you have that spirit, you never 168 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: lose it, and you work until you have one foot 169 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: in the grave. 170 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: And I'm just I'm not sure that's true. But I 171 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: don't know. I'm closer to him than i'm not. 172 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: I just can't imagine enjoying at all, traveling, eating, I 173 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: don't golf, but whatever, I just can't even imagine enjoying 174 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: that at all. That sounds awful to me. Well, this 175 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: is why you're a titan of industry. Yeah, so what 176 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: that's the interesting thing? What if you are are are 177 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: not built to do those sorts of things, but you 178 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: don't produce much. I produce, you know, I half produced 179 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: four hours of frivolous talk every day. 180 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: Headaches, headaches, occasion. Yeah, I don't know where that leaves you. 181 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: Interesting question, you know, well to each in their own 182 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, degree whatever. 183 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was really interesting. 184 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 3: I liked him standing up for that crowd, you know, 185 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 3: and stop calling us plutocrats and all that other stuff. Well, right, 186 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: because we just want to produce as opposed to take. Yeah, 187 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: I think he could have been harder on the people 188 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: that only want to take. There's a big crowd out 189 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: of there that is the exact opposite, hundred percent every 190 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: It's a continuum obviously, from the produce to the day 191 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 3: you die to the never produce a thing. But there's 192 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 3: a lot of people perfectly happy with not producing a thing. 193 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: I think it makes you miserable, probably a drug eYIC, 194 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: can you die early? But there's a lot of people 195 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: willing to do that. 196 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: Well. 197 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, the actual aerial tables would suggest that you're right. 198 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: Yes. 199 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: On the other hand, many folks, even you, have asked 200 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: how much money do you need? Why do you keep working? 201 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: Why do you keep doing this? Why do you keep 202 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, whatever that person does to acquire more and 203 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: more wealth. 204 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, as he said, he. 205 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: A reasonable question, he asked, that's the answer. Yeah, as 206 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: he said, he asked that question his whole life. As 207 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: I get closer to the end, you know, I'm sick. 208 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 3: I might be dead by the end of the week. 209 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: As I get closer to the end, I understand where 210 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: he's coming from more than I did even two years ago, 211 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: I think, and I don't know why, but it's interesting 212 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: that he didn't get it a much of his I mean, 213 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: he's really old. It's not like he's, you know, just 214 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: turned sixty five retiring. He's pushing one hundred. Yeah, yeah, 215 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: thought provoking. Yeah, i'd say so. Elon's probably gonna be 216 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: one of those people. Elon's never gonna say, well, that's 217 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: enough of that. 218 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: No, No, I agree completely. My no is a yes, 219 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: but yes, I mean no vice versa. I've lost crack. Yeah, okay, interesting, Warren. 220 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: I wish you could have taken back that stupid, stupid 221 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: thing about your secretary paying lower taxes than you, because 222 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 3: it's stupid, and you know it's stupid. 223 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are situations where you can borrow against enormous 224 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: but unrealized gains and that quote unquote income is tax free. 225 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm familiar with that part of the tax code. 226 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just again, it's it's a myth one 227 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: the top one percent pay whatever. It is, forty seven 228 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: percent of the income tax in America. 229 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: Anyway. 230 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: Uh, much more to come, including the tragic birth rate situation. 231 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: Among human Oh we've got some breaking news. I wanted 232 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: to mention. Oh, okay. Trump is just. 233 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 3: Announced he'll give one thousand dollars to any illegal who 234 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: voluntarily leaves the country. What you heard me? He is 235 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: in full not a complicated says running a. 236 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: Game show you know mode right now? I bet it works. 237 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's I don't know where that 238 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: money would come from, and I don't know what the 239 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: mechanism would be for doing it or any of that stuff. 240 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 2: I am so mystified this. Where does this one ranking? 241 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: Let's reopen Alcatraz as a maximum security prison? 242 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: Is that above or below it in the what are 243 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 2: we doing here? Scale? 244 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 3: I'll bet it would work. I bet a bunch of people. 245 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 3: I'll bet you could get a couple million people to voluntarily. 246 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: Leave if they're going to get a thousand bucks. 247 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: Thinking short term and or thinking I'm going to have 248 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: to leave at some point anyway, so I might as 249 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 3: well get a thousand dollars and you can't get back in. 250 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole hot Christinome with her her ads that 251 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: are running now all the time. That let's say, if 252 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: you report yourself and leave, you can come back at 253 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: some point legally. But if we find you and you 254 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: haven't self reported, you're booted out for the rest of 255 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: your life. 256 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: If people are hearing that and thinking, wow, I wonder. 257 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: If they're serious, and you'll give me a grand just 258 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: to disappear, you know, my uncle rehire me back in 259 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: Guadalajara or whatever. I don't I don't know, but a grand, 260 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean that's if you're making well, for instance, fifty 261 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: two grand a year. 262 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 2: That's that's a week's wages. 263 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: You're gonna leave the land of milk and honey for 264 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: a week's wages? 265 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: What if you think you're gonna get booted out at 266 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:42,479 Speaker 2: some point anyway. 267 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm stuck in Alcatraz probably right, it'll be our new 268 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: illegal immigrant camp. 269 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 3: All right, this is just too whacked? All right, fine, 270 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: you didn't like it too whack? Can you just passing 271 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: along the news of the day. More on the way's 272 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: day here. 273 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: And as revolutionary as the pill was in. 274 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: The sixties, freezing eggs so now you can have motherhood 275 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: whenever you want it, not during your fun years. When 276 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 3: you're running around and don't want to have kids, you 277 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 3: can put it off to one you're much much older. 278 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 3: According to sixty minutes last night, we'll discuss that probably 279 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 3: an hour four man. 280 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: That's an interesting story. 281 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking about this if if forget that 282 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: were human beings, if we were deer, this is your 283 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: headline for deer. One would be leader. One buck would 284 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: be leader of the deer herd is criticized. The other 285 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: would be leader for having antlers too big. Also, young 286 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: bucks are now having fun scratching themselves against trees. In 287 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: nons of news, the herd is dying out. I mean, 288 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't that be the leads story? Our herd is dying out. 289 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: We're just importing deer from other forests to distract us 290 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: from that fact. So stay tuned for that. 291 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: Some of them have Ms. Thirteen tattooed on their hoops. 292 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 3: That was photoshopped. 293 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: So uh, it is so funny if you are a 294 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: savvy consumer of the news to watch the gyrations. A 295 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: lot of the lefty media, which is virtually everybody with 296 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: the obvious exceptions, The gymnastics they go through if they 297 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: come across something that makes them uncomfortable, and they'd prefer 298 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,119 Speaker 1: not to report it, whether it's the raging anti semitism 299 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: on college campuses or what have you. This is a 300 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: perfect example. Did you hear about the giant blackouts in 301 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: Europe last week? France and Portugal in particularly in particular, 302 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: in particularly. 303 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: Massive swaths of Europe had. 304 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: Like day long blackouts, no electric power, no flights, no trains, 305 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: no medical care, people milling around looking at each other. 306 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: What are we supposed to do now? And there's a 307 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: big mystery as to what was causing it. 308 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: And this was covered extensively on your mainstream media. Cyber attack, 309 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: Chinese something or other, the damn Ruskies, who knows. But 310 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: then as soon as it became clear what actually had happened, 311 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: we've moved on to other things. 312 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: Nothing to see. Oh, I have a guess, I didn't 313 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: follow this story. Go ahead, guess away. I'll bet it's 314 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: a good one. 315 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: Green energy didn't fill the role it's supposed to, one 316 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: hundred percent over reliance on utterly unreliable green energy. 317 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: And I came across a piece that was very, very 318 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: good by Emmett Penny in the Free Press that described 319 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: as I'll just touch on a little bit because we 320 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: don't have much time. But simply put the power grid 321 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: as like a giant game of tug of war. On 322 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: one side, there's demand, on the other, there's supply. Keeping 323 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: the lights on involves making sure the rope between supply 324 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: and demand remains taut. This tautness is called inertia in 325 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: the energy grid business. Healthy inertia means healthy grid frequency, 326 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: which in Europe means fifty hertz. None of this means 327 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: anything to any of us, and we'll forget it as 328 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: soon as we've heard it. But in the version of 329 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: events initially attributed to this other thing, something along one 330 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: of the power the lines disrupted the even flow of 331 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: power between generators on the grid, which messed with a 332 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: frequency which likely tripped off more wind and solar, which 333 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: slackened the rope, which probably caused the blackouts. 334 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: They are way way. 335 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: Overliant on unpredictable, unsustainable sources of energy. The sources that 336 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: made up eighty percent of the mix just before the 337 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: blackout can't supply the requisite inertia the grid needs. So 338 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: when these atmospheric ostellations they call them took place. The 339 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: Spanish grid was already in a precarious scot spot because 340 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: it's the dearth of dispatchable power made it much more 341 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: vulnerable to the sort of disturbances you're going to have. 342 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: In the real world. 343 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: It makes it rigid, inflexible, and undependable. 344 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: In the modern world. I've been in that whole life. Well, 345 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? Yeah? Yeah, So that's why 346 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: that story went away. Yep. 347 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: Interesting to see your folks keep moving. How many pencils 348 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: do you need to live? In America? 349 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: That question in others on the way Armstrong and Getty 350 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: get some eggs. 351 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 4: Go, Let's get some eggs. 352 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 5: More and more American women are freezing their eggs to 353 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 5: preserve their fertility. 354 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: Those of the eggs. 355 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 5: Could egg freezing offer what previous generations only dreamed of? 356 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 5: The chance to put the biological clock on ice. 357 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: There definitely is that TikTok clock, and I'm not ready 358 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 4: quite yet. 359 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 3: I think that egg freezing is as revolutionary as the 360 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 3: pill was in nineteen sixties and seventies. 361 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 5: It's as revolutionary as the pell. 362 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: Joe's favorite thing that sixty minutes does and does better 363 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 3: than anybody else. Restate what they just said, because your 364 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: audience is eighty five years old and you're afraid they 365 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: missed it. But the story about freezing eggs and freeing 366 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: you up to have kids whenever you want as a woman, 367 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: I don't think previous generations necessarily were dreaming of this 368 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 3: and the way you just stated. But let's hear a 369 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: couple more and then we'll discuss. 370 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 2: Here we go. 371 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 5: We spoke to a group of women about their decision 372 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 5: to freeze their eggs. 373 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 2: Why is it a good idea? 374 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 4: I one hundred percent know that I really would love 375 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: to have children. 376 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 5: Yeas been Higbee is twenty nine, works in consultings and 377 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 5: has a serious boyfriend. 378 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: I'll be able to enjoy these times with my partner 379 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 4: a bit more instead of rushing to have kids because 380 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 4: there definitely is that TikTok clock that started and I'm 381 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 4: not ready quite yet. 382 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: It's an insurance. 383 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 4: I know that you know I'm going to be an 384 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 4: older mother. 385 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 3: This whole thing hurts my heart. One more and then 386 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: we'll get into it the next one. They're mine, Oh, 387 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: you don't have any ethnikes? 388 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: Okay. 389 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 3: The next one was going to get into it about 390 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: enjoying life instead of rushing into having kids, rushing into 391 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: having kids before you're forty five. 392 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, that's. 393 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: What she was talking about. The one we skipped is 394 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: no difference in the health of babies. 395 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, gotcha. Yeah, uh yeah, I don't I 396 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 2: don't know. 397 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: I'm always uncomfortable with this judging other people's lifestyles. Oh no, 398 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: I love that. It's like I do that all day long. 399 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: Uh No, it's a couple of things. Number one, you know, 400 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: people make these decisions for all sorts of complicated reasons, 401 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: and it's very very personal. And second, my wife and 402 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: I full disclosure, had our children by today's standards young. 403 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: I was twenty seven when I became a dad for 404 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: the first time, which people say, wow, you know. Not 405 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: very long ago, they'd just said wow, why'd you wait 406 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: so long? Now it's wow, you're just a kid. And 407 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: Judy was just a little older than me. But and 408 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: I don't want to be guy who argues my life 409 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: choices over yours reflexively. On the other hand, and I 410 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: could list several examples where, especially in the twentieth century, 411 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: which was the era of almost the cult of scientific development, 412 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: in that we didn't only marvel at it and benefit 413 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: from it. We became convinced that if science could do it, 414 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: science should do it right. I think that was kind 415 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: of the dawn of people really thinking that, and the 416 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: infamous unforgivable so moronic. It makes me want to assault. 417 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: Somebody thought in the twentieth century that we have designed 418 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: this factory manufactured formula that is far superior to a 419 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: mother's milk. You're feeding your baby your milk, your mother's milk. 420 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: You're a bad parent in a monster feed it these 421 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: chemicals from our plant instead, which is monstrous in its 422 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: ignorance and belligerence. But generations of kids and moms got 423 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: that message. 424 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: My only quibble with the sixty minutes piece was they 425 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: didn't present really any of the possible other side in 426 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: the way that I think it could have been to 427 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 3: at great length. For instance, and I have no leg 428 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: to stand on in this conversation. I didn't have kids 429 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 3: till I was forty five years old, because I'm a guy, 430 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 3: and I can choose to do whatever I want, so I'll. 431 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate your full disclosure. But at the same time, 432 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: I have made a number of life choices that I 433 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: am not going to defend at all. 434 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: In fact, I would like to tell you why they're. 435 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: Stupid ideas, you know what I mean, or or I 436 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: was in that position. If I had it all to 437 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 1: do over again, I'd do it differently. That doesn't make 438 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: you a hypocriter. 439 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: I wish I had kids younger for all kinds of 440 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: different reasons. It will eliminate the whole grandparent relationship thing 441 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: to a great extent when everybody starts having kids, everybody 442 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 3: starts having kids at a much later age, because it 443 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 3: just does. 444 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: Your grandparents are in a. 445 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 3: Much different phase of their life if they're around at all, 446 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: and all that sort of stuff. I mean, it's I mean, 447 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: there's lots of downsides, or even if you don't call 448 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: them downsides, changes, and not all changes are positive, as 449 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 3: you say all the time. 450 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would just. 451 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: Say, there are a number of biological and that's a 452 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: very broad category, number of biological reasons why you are 453 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: better off having children when you are younger. 454 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: Some of those have been. 455 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: Made less significance significant by medical science, which is wonderful. 456 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean, for instance, one of the reasons you want 457 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: to have your kids ladies when you were young and 458 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: very strong and resilient. Is because frequently it went kind 459 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: of sideways, and maternal mortality was a serious problem for 460 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: human beings and any animal, I suppose, but particularly human 461 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: beings because we're born with these enormous brains and very 462 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: large heads, which can make the birthing process. I don't 463 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: need to tell this to folk. Ladies have given birth. 464 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: It can make it very difficult. As I've said more 465 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: than once, my first kid, Kate, would have probably died 466 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: in childbirth, taking Judy with her. But no, it was 467 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: the twentieth century, so thank god everybody survived. So and 468 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: so some of the reasons you want to have your 469 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: kids this is because of the getty head. Oh yeah, 470 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 1: I mean our heads among you know, normal folks who 471 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: have enormous heads we refer to as penheads. We have 472 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: college we have we have heads rather like college mascots. Anyway, 473 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: I have to wear my order my cowboy hats from 474 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: mascot stores Giant well. But anyway, but some of the 475 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: realities of giving birth to children, raising children cannot be 476 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: changed by you know, science, And there are more and 477 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: more studies that show that older eggs, older you know, 478 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: sperm whatever, are not quite as effective or more prone 479 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: to various problems, which is why they're freezing the eggs, 480 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: I guess, But so. 481 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: I do feel a little bit. 482 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 3: I know this is your thing, which we'll talk about next, 483 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 3: is we're on the Titanic talking about how great the 484 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: new ships are going to be in ten years as 485 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 3: we get heads straight toward the iceberg, and we are 486 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 3: doing that. 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There's no safe like simply safe. 513 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 3: So last week we had the New York Times story 514 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 3: about designer babies and being able to choose taller or 515 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: blue eyes or various things, and the horrors that could 516 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: go with that, boys or girls. 517 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 2: Now you got the whole freezing eggs. 518 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: The good news if you're worried about that, I guess 519 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: is people ain't gonna have babies period or aren't currently, 520 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: and there's no reason to think that's gonna turn around 521 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 3: anytime soon. 522 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about this more than once. You've probably 523 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: heard about it from other folks as well. But our 524 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: birth rates in the developed world are they rang from Oh, 525 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: my Lord to Great God, we're already dead. In the 526 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: United States, we're at one point six six. The conventional 527 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: wisdom being each mother needs to have two point one 528 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: children on average. I was just reading a genetic study 529 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: that said it's really closer to two point seven children 530 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: to avoid families dying out on a genetic ongoing basis. 531 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: But that gets a little complicated statistically, But anyway, it's 532 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: more than two children on average per mom just to 533 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: keep the population exactly the same. And we're at one 534 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: point six six or so in America, and Japan is 535 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: at one point three, and South Korea the poster child 536 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: for not having kids is whereas at point eighty seven. 537 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: Whoa greatoo. Canada's one point four to seven. It's less 538 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: than America. You're fifty first state only because it'll be 539 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: empty soon. So yeah, the birth rates are crazy. I 540 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: just and I say this every time. 541 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 3: I do not believe it's because, you know, like the 542 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 3: clips we just played from sixty minutes, I've just got 543 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 3: so many things I want to do now. Well, wasn't 544 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 3: that long ago the things people wanted to do was 545 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 3: have a kid? 546 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were, they weren't. 547 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 3: I guess I'll have the kid, I'm gonna have to 548 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: put off travel and all these other things I want 549 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 3: to do or social pressure. 550 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, my mom keeps bugging me, so we probably ought 551 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 1: to go ahead and get pregnant. 552 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 3: The thing you wanted to do more than anything in 553 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: the world was have a kid, and it wasn't just 554 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 3: because TikTok wasn't around. So you know, whatever he's driving 555 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 3: that I don't know. 556 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh. 557 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: And again I want to tread with light foot on 558 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: this stuff because people can make their own decisions. 559 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 2: And I'm going to cast dispersions. 560 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: If you can preserve your eggs and they're still in 561 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: great shape and some of the problems with older eggs 562 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: and older sperm or not resent, I suppose that's fine. 563 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: I just I will tell you as a young parent, 564 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: it's worked out fantastic. 565 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 2: It's been great. 566 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 567 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: We're we're pretty poor. I mean we were, you know. Famously, 568 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: I would occasionally go out for a beer with friends, 569 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: and as I've said through the years, I had the 570 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: budget for one ninety nine cent draft one. That was it, 571 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: and if nobody wanted to buy me a beer, I 572 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: went home afterward. 573 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: And it was fine. 574 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: I actually remember those days yeah, you know, I didn't 575 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: dig it at the time, but it's fine. And again, 576 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: you make the choices that work for you. Don't send 577 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: your indignant email saying, well, it's fine and good for 578 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: you to say, but this is my reality. That's fine 579 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: that I'm not talking about you. But I have God 580 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: willing a good long few decades that my grown kids 581 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: are my friends and I get to see them live 582 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: their life and someday I hope to have grandkids. 583 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: You know, we have our own family circumstances, but with. 584 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: Our individual kids, but there are wonderful, wonderful advantages to it. 585 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: I had tons of energy. I was working, you know, 586 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: obscene hours early in our career, and I was coaching 587 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: my kids teams and wrestling with him and running around 588 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: and playing catching the art. 589 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: But it was great in a lot of ways. 590 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: But you know, to each their own, so just and 591 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: the only reason I bring that up is not to 592 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: say it's better and you're a dope if you don't. 593 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: Because there's a right way, wrong way. I appreciate your rigidity. 594 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: It's it's just to say, if you all, if you've 595 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: been listening to those messages that oh you got to 596 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: wait until you can afford, you know, designer baby clothes. 597 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: And that's the dumbest. It's not true. That is the 598 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 2: absolute dumbest reason. 599 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 3: I had a neighbor who used to say, just throw 600 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: it out there because this was his addy, because he 601 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 3: had kids older before I had ever had kids. He'd 602 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 3: always say, I wouldn't trade your fifties for my twenties. 603 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 3: That was his big saying. And he had such a 604 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: good time in his twenties. He glad he didn't ruin 605 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: it by having kids. So I don't know if he 606 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 3: still feels that way. It's possibly he feels different now 607 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: that he's older, and. 608 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. 609 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: I hope he's happy whatever I think. 610 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 3: Just to throw in my two cents on that having 611 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 3: kids older, I don't think I enjoyed all the free 612 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 3: time I had when I was younger, the way you 613 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 3: would if you raised your kids already. I just thought 614 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: that was life. No, I was on vacation the entire 615 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 3: time and didn't know it. Yeah, that's funny. I was 616 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 3: retired basically and didn't even know it. So it was 617 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: a lot of wasted time. 618 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: It would have been funny if you'd said, you know, 619 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: as a guy with full time job. Yeah, I'm semi retired. 620 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: And then I screw around all that. 621 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: I see people at the airport traveling without kids, and 622 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 3: I don't care what your business trip is or whatever 623 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 3: you're on vacation if you're not traveling with kids. 624 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I wanted to get to this. It's 625 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: a somewhat different topic, but it is. Uh, why don't 626 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: I just go ahead and mention it. Then we'll take 627 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 2: a break. 628 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: You know, my joke about we've got all these health 629 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: problems as Homo sapiens and and my joke is one 630 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: scientist said, well, they're eating completely different things than they've 631 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: ever eaten before as a species. The other scientist said, nah, 632 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: that's not it. I mean, what the hell silly. 633 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: And knee jerk would that be? Oh, here's another one. 634 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: Scientists have made an alarming discovery inside human ovaries. Ladies, 635 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: you know what she got a bunch of in your ovaries? Microplastics? 636 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, new study shows what scientists have feared for 637 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: a long time, the effect of microplastics on human fertility. 638 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 3: Stay wit us, Okay, and then you're gonna go on 639 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 3: about seed oil. I know how you are, so stay right, 640 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: no one not. I don't care about oil. 641 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 4: There's Lark. 642 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 3: Wow, Logo had a little point afterwards. 643 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: That was Caitlin Clark yesterday. 644 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 3: So she returned to a University of Iowa court for 645 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 3: its exhibition game aim to play where she became famous 646 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 3: and took a shot from just inside the half court 647 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 3: line and nailed it and everybody went in berzerco to 648 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 3: her inner defense for taking that shot. They were up 649 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 3: fifty five at the time, so wow, the game was 650 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 3: fairly solidly put away. 651 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: Dominant performance. 652 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she was showboating hot dog and I don't appreciately. 653 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: So I don't know what to do with this information. 654 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: Recent study shows evidence what scientists have feared for long time, 655 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: the effects of microplastics on human fertility. And Jack and 656 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: I have a personal interest, not just a professional and 657 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: broad human interest in what seems to be a real 658 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: increase in the number of kids with various developmental problems 659 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 1: from autism to mental health issues to whatever. I mean, 660 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: it's just undeniable. I was doing a little mental just 661 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: kind of sensus of the people close to me, whether 662 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: personal life or actual family and the rest of it, 663 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: and the number of kids with autism or similar issues. 664 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: Is notable, I sure is just say that for the 665 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: first time, scientists have discovered microplastics in the follicular fluid 666 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: of human ovaries. According to a new peer reviewed study, 667 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: this fluid plays a crucial role in nourishing and developing 668 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: a woman's eggs, and researchers have alarmingly found plastic particles 669 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: in fourteen out of eighteen samples collected from patients undergoing 670 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: fertility treatment. It's not a huge study, obviously, but it's 671 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: peer reviewed and the research makes marks a major step 672 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: forward and understanding how deep plastic pollution runs, not just 673 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: in the environment but in our bodies. And then they 674 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: go into some of the function of this fluid in 675 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: the way ovaries do what they do. But the presence 676 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: of microplastics in this fluid raises the possibility that these 677 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: tiny particles are interfering with essential reproductive processes. 678 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can imagine. Yeah. 679 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: Well, and these people have been looking at virtually every 680 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: fluid human beings produce and secrete. They have found microplastics 681 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: in us and animals. 682 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, do. 683 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 3: Work if you can get it. I want to analyze 684 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 3: all your secretions. Any liquid that comes out of you. 685 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 3: I don't care where on the body. I'm going to 686 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 3: take a good look, hard look at it. I've made 687 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 3: a career of it. 688 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: It's more interesting than you'd think you But animal studies 689 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: have suggested that the plastics may disrupt O variant function 690 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: and reduce the ability to conceive. This does not speak 691 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: to child developmental stuff. So that connection I made in 692 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: my mind is there's no suggestion to that in this study. 693 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: But something is going on in reproduction and or you know, 694 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: there's absolutely microplastics and breast milk over again, where are 695 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: we get in most of the microplastics? 696 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 2: That is it? Because when you of us drink out 697 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: of plastic water bottles, Oh no, because plastic is everywhere. 698 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: I know it is. 699 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: It's everywhere all the time, and it gets thrown away 700 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: and broken up and dissolves. 701 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 3: But I don't know if there's that much more plastic 702 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 3: in my life than there was forty years ago, other 703 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 3: than the water bottles. 704 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, there's plastic in everything in 705 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: a way that you know forty years ago. Well, certainly 706 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: like fifty years ago. You remember the famous line from 707 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: the graduate one word Benjamin plastics, The omnipresence of I 708 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: wish I had some stats in front of me, But yeah, 709 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: plastic has gone from a rarity to everywhere all the 710 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: time in everything. Go by by one hundred bucks worth 711 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: of groceries and take a look at how much plastic 712 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: packaging there is. For instance, that was absolutely not the 713 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: case the generation two generations ago. And it breaks down, 714 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: whether by sunlight, by water, by being crushed up or whatever. 715 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: It's not like I mean, the water bottles might play 716 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: a role, but it's like microscopic, little tiny bits of 717 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: it that you breathe in. 718 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 2: You never have anything. 719 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be something if it turns out that's one 720 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 3: of the worst things mankind ever did was invent plastic. 721 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 2: Wouldn't shock me. 722 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 3: Wouldn't shock me either, Well, that'd be a revolution to 723 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 3: try to get rid of plastic in the world. 724 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're not some sort of environmental nut job 725 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: show here. We're just trying to understand what is. 726 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 3: If you miss a segment or now, or we do 727 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 3: lots of them, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. 728 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty