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Speaker 1: Michael Santiago, better known by his stage name, He's an

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Speaker 1: a minute. Mike made his debut on Outcasts two thousand

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Speaker 1: in the eighteen sixty five. Now I said there was

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Speaker 1: have a lot more money than me, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of rappers. But you know their their family is on

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Speaker 1: five acres and grown for the government for the last

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Speaker 1: hundred years. You know what I mean. So for me,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a matter of you. To me, you

433
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Speaker 1: show yourself unintelligent when you don't save, when you don't

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Speaker 1: live below your means, when you don't know how to

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Speaker 1: operate in a room that feels strange to you by

436
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Speaker 1: simply being your most humble and honest self, that's a

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Speaker 1: sign of low intelligence to me. Like t I use

438
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Speaker 1: a lot more you know, big words that how I do.

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Speaker 1: And you know he was the one that dropped out

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Speaker 1: of Douglas, you know he but but he got a

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Speaker 1: he got a firm hold of encabulary. I'll tell about

442
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Speaker 1: time like you talking like our principle, like Dr Hill.

443
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Speaker 1: So he you can't assume that man unintelligent. That man

444
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Speaker 1: has read at the sars and knows more SnO ms

445
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Speaker 1: than any of us. And that brother is fiercely intelligent

446
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Speaker 1: business perspective, it's a lot of real estate around here

447
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Speaker 1: and and has no doubt on it, No, absolutely got

448
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Speaker 1: he bought it straight out. So for me, I look

449
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Speaker 1: for intelligence not only in how you sound, but like

450
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Speaker 1: what are the sound movement you're making? What's the common sense? Yeah,

451
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Speaker 1: you know that's that's that's truly intel, just to me.

452
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Speaker 1: My grandparents taught me about living below my meanings. They

453
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Speaker 1: taught me about doing things that freed you up. Everyone

454
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: wants money and everyone, you know, if intelligence equal money,

455
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Speaker 1: every college professor be a millionaire. Oh as wisdom there.

456
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Speaker 1: If intelligence people they're getting intelligence equal money, every college

457
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Speaker 1: you know professor will be a millionaire. That's right, you know.

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Speaker 1: And you gotta be a pH d and a pH

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Speaker 1: d two, yeah, do something. And that's not criticizing and

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Speaker 1: college professor, right, but but it's just saying it's simply

461
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Speaker 1: being smart. It's not enough. It's not enough, right, all right.

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Speaker 1: This is doing well, like doing good, and I'm John

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Speaker 1: Hoope right. I want you know, if you want to,

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Speaker 1: I want to cover a lot of ground up on

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Speaker 1: our session together so people leave better when I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: leave this podcast better. But I want you to talk

476
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Speaker 1: about how do you built self esteem? You've talked around it.

477
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Speaker 1: I think it had a lot to do with your grandparents,

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Speaker 1: people like in bass, around your young and others. But

479
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Speaker 1: how did you build self esteem? You have another question

480
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Speaker 1: for you? Um I remember, man, I got called to

481
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Speaker 1: play on the you know you play shirts and Skins

482
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Speaker 1: basketball already got count the camp council grand and put

483
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Speaker 1: me on the Skins team. Man. By middle of the game,

484
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Speaker 1: I thought I was the man. I thought he was

485
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Speaker 1: tearing from on the sideline, so a couple I was

486
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Speaker 1: laughing at me barely flopping there. Well, but we won

487
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Speaker 1: the game, and after that I was our Skins every game.

488
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Speaker 1: I had to be because I was playing with the

489
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Speaker 1: best players on skin. I just had to get the ball,

490
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Speaker 1: pretended to pay to kick it back out to my man,

491
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Speaker 1: who thought he was Steph Curb before that time. So

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Speaker 1: you know, once I understood that, my purpose, you know,

493
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Speaker 1: my daughter just started playing j V ball. Not a

494
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Speaker 1: shooter yet because she just started playing ball. And I said, well,

495
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Speaker 1: they can't stop you from being a great defender. Put

496
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Speaker 1: your hands up, put your arms out, don't give them

497
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Speaker 1: an easy shot, you know, give them some trouble on

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Speaker 1: the way up right. And then and then even the

499
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Speaker 1: games they lost, they lost by two to three points.

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Speaker 1: There they were, you know, they're winning games. So you know,

501
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Speaker 1: for me what I what I'm When she learned something, yeah, absolutely,

502
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Speaker 1: And if you learn, you're not losing. So you know,

503
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Speaker 1: for me, um, self confidence comes from just trying. I

504
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Speaker 1: knew I wasn't gonna be the best basketball players only

505
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Speaker 1: school with camera and dollar, you know, like camera. I

506
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Speaker 1: knew cal I'm gonna win a cheffy chill when we

507
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Speaker 1: were ten. I knew I wasn't gonna play baseball or

508
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Speaker 1: like my cousins who were throwing seventy seven mill an

509
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Speaker 1: hour thirteen years old, you know. So I had to

510
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Speaker 1: find what I was good at, you know. And the

511
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Speaker 1: things I was good at was art, talking, debate, you

512
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Speaker 1: know those things. So I embraced the things I was

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Speaker 1: good I built pride around those things, and I had

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Speaker 1: a group of friends around me where my talents are

515
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Speaker 1: needed are called upon. You know, they called me up

516
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Speaker 1: when the police stopped us. Michael, you're talking. You know,

517
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Speaker 1: so I knew I was good at. So my confidence

518
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Speaker 1: grew out of knowing what I was good at and

519
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: doing those things, not out of envying and not out

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Speaker 1: of wanting to be something other than myself. And then

521
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Speaker 1: with Kim Watson told me I was cute. It was

522
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Speaker 1: it was that third grade. It was a wrap. I'm like,

523
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Speaker 1: I'm good exactly. Um. You know I'm sitting here listening

524
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Speaker 1: to you and looking at you with so much pride. Man,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I see you and t I and others

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Speaker 1: in your ILK as like professional athletes of the voice

527
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Speaker 1: and of creativity and of the and of of the

528
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Speaker 1: creative space. I'm a pro athlete. I think of the mind. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just like at the top of your game,

530
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Speaker 1: hopefully in your chosen space, and using that skill and

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Speaker 1: that talent to now create, you know, rippled influence in

532
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Speaker 1: other places, which your your activism and your community involvement.

533
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Speaker 1: You you were walking through the airport in l a X.

534
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Speaker 1: When you're public, When you're public person, your friends don't

535
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Speaker 1: need to hit you up on text. They just look

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Speaker 1: at TMZ and you're a TMZ hit you and said

537
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Speaker 1: and and you said something, tell them what I'll tell

538
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Speaker 1: you because you spout so much. You you're asking you

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Speaker 1: basically about you know, the crime in l A. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's how do we what we're gonna do about

541
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Speaker 1: this crime? And you said something really prophetic. You said, basically,

542
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Speaker 1: if you want to stop crime in in l A

543
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Speaker 1: or anyplace else, you need to have jobs, business and

544
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Speaker 1: the home ownership. The same things that stabilized to grow

545
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Speaker 1: and grow everyone else everywhere else should stabilize and grow us.

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Speaker 1: You agree with that absolutely. If you got home ownership,

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Speaker 1: you don't have people living essentially like gypsies. And you

548
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Speaker 1: know when when you're when when you're living like a jumpy,

549
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Speaker 1: you might not care about the home you're inning. You

550
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Speaker 1: might not care about the place we are because you

551
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Speaker 1: don't feel you wanna be there the rest of your life.

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Speaker 1: The difference in the neighborhood like the one me and

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Speaker 1: t I grew up in any time we were growing

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Speaker 1: up in, it's that people all on their home, so

555
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: people cut their grass. People make sure their neighbors grass

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Speaker 1: was cut. If a roof was messed up, people got

557
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Speaker 1: together and help with that roof. They help one another

558
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Speaker 1: there because there was a certain pride in being there. Um,

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Speaker 1: if you can't make sure people are prideful, then you

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Speaker 1: get neighborhoods that are dilapidated. Well, how do people assess pride?

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Speaker 1: Men assess pride by what they can do, what they

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Speaker 1: can protect, what they can provide for If our young

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Speaker 1: men in particular had trade skills to be able to

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Speaker 1: build themselves, to be able to be hired by contractors

565
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Speaker 1: that are building scotscrapers, you know, as well as the

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Speaker 1: houses that are around, there's a sense of pride that

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Speaker 1: comes with that. For our kids that are using their

568
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Speaker 1: mind or have an opportunity to come out of college

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Speaker 1: without the riddon, without the the the burden of debt,

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Speaker 1: then we can have those minds free to think a

571
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Speaker 1: new in innovative ways to be making money. If you

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Speaker 1: create that space and you create that opportunity. And he

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Speaker 1: told me there's nothing that happened for yeah, yeah, so um,

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Speaker 1: there's no There's there's nothing that happens politically that we're

575
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Speaker 1: not aware of twenty years ahead that can be that

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Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. So we know that the conditions at

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Speaker 1: the end of the last century were ones that would

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Speaker 1: lead to certain places we are now, and we can

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Speaker 1: start to self correct those too. If you take the

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Speaker 1: average eighth grader now, if we start teaching the eighth

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Speaker 1: grade of financial literacy now UM like my man Um,

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Speaker 1: Tony Rechler is into your into Um, Randall Solomon is

583
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Speaker 1: into Robert um Smith is into. If we start doing

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Speaker 1: those things right now, then that eighth grader, by the

585
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: time and graduates high school, it's ready to function financially

586
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Speaker 1: as an adult in the way the eighth graders aren't.

587
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: If we start bringing bad trades to high schools, book

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Speaker 1: Washington UM High School here not only offered academics UM

589
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: thirty years ago, it offered trades, whether it was out

590
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Speaker 1: of body mechanics, airplane mechanics. At George High School, one

591
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Speaker 1: of my favorite English teachers at my rival high school

592
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: actually learned how to poster chairs at books you watched

593
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Speaker 1: in high school. Then you get people who, while they're

594
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Speaker 1: pursuing a higher education at your more House, your Clark's,

595
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: your Morris Round Spellman's, can still go out on weekends

596
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Speaker 1: and do more than help with habit had for humanity,

597
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: but build their own houses to sell on lots that

598
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: their parents may have bought, and you start to fix

599
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: the bigger problem because people who are prideful don't need

600
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Speaker 1: to be running in the stores grabbing stuff out taking

601
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: it because they're able to buy it there. I called

602
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Speaker 1: my my wife called a contractor um on the property

603
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Speaker 1: I bought her for a birthday a few years back,

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Speaker 1: and she sent me a picture of him, and she said,

605
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Speaker 1: you stop up, stop slow, stop the press and stop everything. Slow,

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Speaker 1: slow the heck up. You're a rapper, you're a singer,

607
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Speaker 1: you're you're you're a TV personality, or you're an artist,

608
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Speaker 1: you're creative, genius, you you you, you know. You got

609
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: blinged up one side down and the way we're back up.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what you said. You bought your wife for

611
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Speaker 1: her birthday. Bought the house that her grandmother bought. Her

612
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: grandmother worked as a janitor and the housing projects and

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Speaker 1: owned h M a liquor house. The shot house is

614
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Speaker 1: what they would call the black community where you buy

615
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: because you used to couldn't buy. Look on Sundays in

616
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Speaker 1: Georgia and her grandma would sell shot to liquor and

617
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Speaker 1: she saved up that money and bought her house on

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Speaker 1: Norton Street. I bought that house back from the owner

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Speaker 1: from um who are momed so too? After remember the

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Speaker 1: dad I bought it for for a birthday and I

621
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Speaker 1: was making smart sexy baby. And that's what I'm talking only,

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Speaker 1: I think maybe the only piece we don't altogether, that's

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Speaker 1: just her house, right. So she sent me a picture

624
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: of the contractor who had been a deep way back

625
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: in the eighties and he still had his dope, jury

626
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: still had on a big run. Okay, this might not

627
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Speaker 1: be cheap, you know, but but you think about it.

628
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Speaker 1: You're a little boy, you're coming out on the driveway

629
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Speaker 1: in the nineties and you see him. He's not a

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00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: drug dealer. He's a contractor. There's a contractor here called

631
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Speaker 1: the Modern Crafts. When you guys go check him out.

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00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: VJ he um, he just did that beautiful modern modern

633
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: crasping in. Yeah, yeah, it's right on. But that brother

634
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: is on, the brother who did um TIA's bedroom and

635
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Speaker 1: he put up and and that beautiful lights and sofa.

636
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: See he looks like a club and soil in the bathroom. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: divine for me. By the stand up, going on, look

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Speaker 1: at check it out to your design. I asked that

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00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: brother that, I said, where, what what? What made you

640
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Speaker 1: want to be a contractor? He grew up in Chicago,

641
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: he said, I come out, he said, this one guy

642
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: man who had beautiful cars. Closer, he say, but it

643
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: was a van. He was a contractor. He owned this van.

644
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: He was contract And he said that made me want

645
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: to do that because he saw that example of success.

646
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: He saw, Yeah, I don't have to be a pimp,

647
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: a player, or a gangster in order to have a

648
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: nice car, in order for women to a door like me,

649
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: in order to have a nice house, I just have

650
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: to use my mind in my hands. And that's what

651
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: he did. And brothers one of the best contractors. I mean,

652
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: he ain't. He ain't building low class houses. This brother's

653
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: man I'm talking about. I had him do my basement.

654
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: I think, Lord have mercy. Well, I'm so glad he

655
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: was finished. I pay him. I'm gonna put some kids

656
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: through college. But um, but for for me, it's just

657
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: about putting the examples. I gotta think it was the

658
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: white teacher name Mr Jim Burton when I say that,

659
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: because I grew up in an area where they I

660
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: just I didn't experience white teachers. I had exactly so

661
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: growing up in Atlanta. Because the man name Mr. Jim Burton,

662
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. He drove up to my summer school.

663
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: It made and he says, um, I gotta, I gotta

664
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: being dyslexic, I didn't want to do math all year,

665
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: so I go to summer school. I figured out going

666
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: to some school, I get my credits in summer school,

667
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: and that I could just do an extra art course

668
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: in the falling winter. And Mr Burtell said, how'd you

669
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: like to learn how to fly? And I was like,

670
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: I love, Let's do it. What do we need to do?

671
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: And he paid me and Slim from one twelve and

672
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: about twelve other students aviation mechanics and aviation. And that's

673
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: when I started learning using your mind. And my father

674
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: would say, who was a blue collar? Work? And my

675
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: father would say, you know, think work smarter, not harder.

676
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: And I just said, man, this is what it's about.

677
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: It's about figuring out beyond base education, what else can

678
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: I learn while I'm here? How are the products and

679
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 1: that I could think of, how the services I can

680
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: think of, how they're valuable in the bigger marketplace in

681
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: the world, and what could I do? And I just

682
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: I've been sewing it out my whole life. I don't

683
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: have it all figured out, but I'm figured that. I

684
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, like you saw on the barbershop, we

685
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: actually on three well on the original barbershop on Roosevelt Highway,

686
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: we on um one end that the swack shop, the

687
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: shave washing groom shop. Um. If you look at corporations

688
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: like Floyd, like Rudy's, like Super Great Clips, traditionally these

689
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: are white owned establishments. He's a white thought of Um

690
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: there for black barbershops to have such a dominant force

691
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 1: in our community. There can be eight barbershops on one

692
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: block like over now on models came out of old pascals,

693
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: no remember closed now. So there's obviously a great business

694
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: in that, but no one has ever thought, let me

695
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: build a brand around Barbara and a lifestyle brand at

696
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: mass Craze is a barbershop, and let me grow this

697
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: a lifestyle brand that masquerais is a barbershop. That's what

698
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: my wife and I are doing with the swag shop.

699
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: Where what would you say again, your wife and you

700
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: are doing You know, I'm the co owner. I always

701
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: let people on the car on her. So you're doing

702
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: this with your with your wife as a business woman. Yeah, absolutely,

703
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, She's sharpened me on business. So I listened

704
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: to her a lot. I know there was another time.

705
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, gonna tell your business, but I know there's

706
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: another time. For her birthday. You gave her some money

707
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: put in an investment account or whatever for her birthday. Yeah,

708
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: So I want you guys to think about this now.

709
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: You know you you know, you can go get the

710
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: purse or whatever you want, But those are depreciating assets.

711
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: My man is investing in his woman. Who is which

712
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: is an appreciating asset. Yeah, she's she's an investing in

713
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: appreciative Yeah. She still gets some of adult girls stuff too,

714
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: Like she got the Gucci boost in the purse. I

715
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: think I bought her like thirty grand and stock that year,

716
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: and then another year I gave her like a Hunter

717
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: grant and for investment. So I just I want because

718
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: I know she's smart, turns in me many things, and

719
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: I don't ever want her to feel as though she's

720
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: only my wife. She's a fully functioning human being. She's

721
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: my partner and I honored that, but I sing it

722
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: like she She's fine to tell him, she said, make

723
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: sure you tell people I see it. I sing a

724
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: dance for folks for a living. You know, That's what

725
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: I do. But we ain't singing and dance. And once

726
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: I'm off that stage, we're doing business. My wife is since,

727
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: as you know, singlarly similarly smart. Yeah, she owns real

728
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: estate and uh Harlem one a few blacks owned property

729
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: and still in Harlem, uh in in Miami and in Chicago.

730
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: I tried to buy her property in Chicago. She's like, no,

731
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: you're not getting my nugget. This is my little nugget.

732
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: This is my nugget. I just asked her to day

733
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: to co chair the Family Foundation together and she's like,

734
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: you mean you mean Coley. So so look, you said

735
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: something earlier that reminds me of something Dr King's, I mean,

736
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: Ambassador Andrew Young said the same thing. By the way,

737
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: it's Dr Dr King's right arm in the civil rights

738
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: movement was Dr was Ambassador Andrew Young. He said about

739
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: a decade ago, John, if African Americans and minorities lose

740
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: political power and civil rights protections, we need the work

741
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna be doing because because all will have his economics.

742
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: And he said, I don't think we're gonna get to

743
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: this point. I think it's gonna get that bad, but

744
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: but just make sure you stay focused. And now, unfortunately

745
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: we're at this moment, this inflection point where it looks

746
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: like this is actually, you know, if everything is sort

747
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: of at risk and we do need to be about economics.

748
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: You said something to me. I don't know if you

749
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: know how much I listened to you. I was in

750
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: the car. I know exactly where I was is four

751
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon. I was going around the corner

752
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: at the airport on the freeway, and you said to me,

753
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: John Black, people need an outsize business success story, an

754
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: outside business image of itself that's not just limited to

755
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: entertainment in sports. What do you mean by that that

756
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: we have to understand that the Robert Smith's to Michael V. Roberts,

757
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: to John Hope Bryant's, the Herman Russell's have existed, and

758
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: we have to understand that they're still in creation and existing.

759
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: Now we have to see ourselves as owners and we

760
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: and I don't mean in an imaginary place like to

761
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: see ownership Tony Rechler is the majority owners of HAGS,

762
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: A minority owner is Grand Hill business partner. And in

763
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: one and one day they're going to have majority owners

764
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: that look exactly, I'm gonna have more Magic Johnson's than not.

765
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: So the question becomes, why aren't we talking about that

766
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: as much as we're talking about the people who singing dancing,

767
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: the people that run bass very important to singing dance.

768
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: But when I hear about a player again the forty

769
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: and a hundred million dollar contract, my question becomes, who

770
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: can afford to pay it? So so when as you know,

771
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: Tony Resler pays that with this petty cash, absolutely the

772
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: billionaires showing up in a in a non script car,

773
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: sitting in the tenth row, he owns, the owns the team,

774
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: He writes the check, they cash it right, and the

775
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: ball is a running around with chains on and least

776
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: Ferrari's stuff. And it's all good. But I don't I

777
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: don't have I don't have with it. But just just

778
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: from Jamal mash Burnett, Shaquille O'Neil it, you know, Magic Johnston.

779
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: Figure out a way to make sure that your image

780
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: and what you're doing can make you and money in

781
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: the same way it makes money for others and understanding

782
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: the difference between making money and building wealth. Absolutely, you

783
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: can be you can have lifestyle riches, uh, but you'll

784
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: still go broke. You've got to build wealth, and you

785
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: build wealth in your sleep. Let's let's I don't want

786
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: us to run out of time. If we get to.

787
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 1: I want to get to one of your mini ventures,

788
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: which is Bank Greenwood. But Uh, the larger issue for

789
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: me is I'm gonna come back to this tsue of

790
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: of this moment in time post George Floyd got blesses

791
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: and got rest his soul. Uh. He gave his life

792
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: so we might have light. Um, we're in this inflection point, man,

793
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: and I don't know if this is gonna come around again,

794
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: but you know, I think we have ten years and

795
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: what I call a third reconstruction period, uh to get

796
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: this right and again social justice to an economic lens.

797
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: How I frame it, you may frame it completely differently.

798
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: What why are you doing what you're doing? What are

799
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: some of the things that you're doing the audience needs

800
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: to know about how can they support it? Uh? Let's

801
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: get into your vision for uh society right now? And

802
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: what's the opportunity for not just Black America, but all

803
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: of America. Well, let me tell all of America one thing.

804
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: When the black economy and the Black community is strong

805
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: and stable, the wider community is more strong and more stable. Boom,

806
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: all right, So when black families are strong, the greater

807
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: community is strong. When Black economics is strong, the greater

808
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: communities economics is strong. Right, That's just what it is.

809
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: So there's an there should be an interest in strengthening

810
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: the black communities from from a financial standpoint, because by

811
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: see the wider community get stronger, thanks get more um

812
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: loans given, those loans get paid back on time, those

813
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: neighborhoods stabilized, they create better schools because better tax neighborhoods

814
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: create better schools, creates better people in the workforce. Right,

815
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: if you don't have a strong Black community, and what

816
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: you're doing as achilles healing one of the greatest potential

817
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: economic driving forces in the world. So we need to

818
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: end the the the Achilles tending tear by finally making

819
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: good on what this country has promised us, and that's

820
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: equal opportunity for all. We have not had the equal opportunity.

821
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: I know a lot of my white brothers and sisters

822
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: listen to the radio on conservative stations and they hear

823
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: that things aren't fair. You had to get it out

824
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: the mud for Yeah, you know, you hear that stuff.

825
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: But you weren't red lined out of housing for eighty years.

826
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: You were. And that's not blaming pointing at you. That's

827
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: just saying that your great grandparents, your grandparents, and your

828
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: parents had an opportunity to build things like equity that

829
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: paid for education in a different way, even even an

830
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: educating educating students by you being under educated. When I

831
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: say Frederick Douglass to you, you just say, well, wow,

832
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: that's a piece of black history. You don't understand. That's

833
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: the most photographed person of the nineteenth century. He was

834
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: not only an advice of the President's and and and kings.

835
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: He was the person that was would have if clinking

836
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: and I've been assassinated, helped Lincoln set this country on

837
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: a path of true equity for people. It was a

838
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: doctor Martina King Jr. And Nelson Mandela of the eight hundred,

839
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: all wrapped in the one you know, and absolutely and

840
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: had the Freedman's Bank been successful and not been sabotaged

841
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: and really had been able to see this country would

842
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: be stronger economically now because it wouldn't have been walking

843
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: on an Achilles Hill because Jim crow last Is allowed

844
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: part of it to be kept eighty years behind so

845
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: that the real estate in Baltimore, Maryland after rented it

846
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: out the working class blacks, which gave him the financial

847
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: freedom to be a civil rights leader and a social

848
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: justice leader. Back to you, absolutely. So for me, what

849
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: I want for myself and for my wife is to

850
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: build our individual wealth because my grandparents told me take

851
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: care of yourself first. That individual wealth will help us

852
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: take care of, educate, and take care of not only

853
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: our family, but our friends and families in our direct

854
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: community around us. The stronger our community is, the more

855
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: we become a prototype for other communities to do the same.

856
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: That's why I want Atlanta to win. That's why I

857
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: want City of South full Toon to win. I want

858
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: the Calf County to win. I want Douglas Field to win.

859
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: I want newly elected people in Cobb County to win

860
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: that look like me, because if that happens, then this

861
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: state becomes an economic example for what's possible in Florida

862
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: and North Florida. What's possible in Laura and eastern Alabama's

863
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: possible in the Carolina's you have of African Americans living

864
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: in the South. Imagine if the South once again, you know,

865
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: past the King of the king Cotton days, where you

866
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: had the planner class who use a poor white class

867
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: as a buffer between them and those people that were slaved.

868
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: You could, finally in South Georgia have equality amongst working

869
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: class men because they're both making equal wages. At the

870
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: time the Civil rights movement was happening, the most the

871
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: big a group of people against unionizing in Civil rights

872
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: were poor white men in Mississippi who are being underpaid

873
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: by factories used by master class who looked just like them,

874
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: and then pitted against working class men whose fight for

875
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: unions made it better for everyone. That's the that's the

876
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: that's the pit we have to stop falling into. What

877
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: I would like to see for this country is for

878
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: this country to rise to James Baldwin's challenge and realize

879
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: that we're not going to pack up and go back

880
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: to Europe. We're not going to pack up and go

881
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: back to Africa. What we what we can do is

882
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: figure out a cooperative living here, a cooperative push for

883
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: one America in a way that one America does not

884
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: have to be ruled by one class of Americans, not

885
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: by one color, not by one creed that we could

886
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: finally take the best of George Washington Carver, with the

887
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: best of Franklin Devil de Leonore Roosevelt. We can take

888
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: the best of Frederick Douglas with the best policies that

889
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: were signed, even though reluctantly by the Baines Johnson, and

890
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: we could create some thing that's new and something that

891
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: delivers on the promise of equality and equity for all.

892
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: If we could do that, if we were willing to

893
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: put our egos to the side, this could possibly be

894
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: the greatest country that every came man. And when Madam C. J. Walker,

895
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: the first black manaire one her white suppliers, one absolutely

896
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 1: when when uh when uh doctor Dorothy Hight, who counseled

897
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: twelve presidents National Council of Negro Women, when she advised

898
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: Eleanor Roosevelt, a white, the white the female wife of

899
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: the president, the whole nation was h that the day.

900
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: The color is not white, black, red, brown, and yellow.

901
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: The colors green. That's right, It's not red or blue

902
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: as in political parties say it's always been green. We

903
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: just never we just didn't have it this ever had

904
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: this straight conversation. I want people listening to this, and

905
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: please tell everybody you know to listen to this podcast

906
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: and pass it on. I want people to listen to

907
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: this when we need to make things like this go viral.

908
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: This has been a wonderful conversation. I want people to

909
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: listen to this who are afraid of black progress US.

910
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: I want them to understand. This is about, to quote

911
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: my friend Stephanie Rule, this is about expanding the table

912
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: and adding a seat. This is not about a serial

913
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: some game of we win and you lose. There's four

914
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: things that never gone backwards, Mike, in all the world history,

915
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: American history. Real estate values, they've gone up, gone down.

916
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: Uh took we then unfortunately we've We've sold on the

917
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: dip when it went down, went back up, corrected above

918
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: the line, came down again, corrected above the line, went

919
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: back up. Stock market values the same thing went up,

920
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: crash went down. We sold in the dip because we

921
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: were afraid correct the financially literacy corrected above the line,

922
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: kept g d P gross domestic product are income for

923
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: this country never gone down, and the prospects of a

924
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: fifty five year old college educated white man has never

925
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: gone backwards in the history of this country. There's nothing

926
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: for from our white brother and sisters to worry about,

927
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: because when we win, they win. When we succeed, they succeed.

928
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: Because all boats rise, GDP increases, the economy expands. I

929
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: want that that message to be heard loud and clear,

930
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: that that either we succeed together as brothers and sisters,

931
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: or we will die together as fools. You can take

932
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: no pleasure from the fact it's a hole in my

933
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: end of our boat. And that's why I love for

934
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: a guy like you, who've got so much social currency,

935
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: who's so bilingual. I love seeing you go from Wall

936
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: Street to Main Street, from the Black Street to the

937
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: Latino Street. I love I love it that you started

938
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: you that your music crosses all racial barriers. By the way,

939
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about your music. On one

940
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: half of a rap group called Runner Jewels, It's me

941
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: and a white guy from Brooklyn, Me and Jamie Mullene

942
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: better known as LP the Creative Death Chucks Records, formerly

943
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: a member of company Flow to me, the greatest rapper

944
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: producer in the world because he writes his own wraps.

945
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 1: I sit there and watch him do it. He produces

946
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: his own beats. I sit there and watch him do it.

947
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: I UM, it took me ten years becoming overnight success.

948
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: You know, I tried along, and I pushed along and

949
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: had moderate success, had a lot of critical um, you know,

950
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: a lot of critical clapping. But what I didn't have

951
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: for the I had a one goal record, but I

952
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: didn't have a hugely successful singles career like my say

953
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: good friend to ya tea. I can make a hit

954
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: record and sleep, wake up, do it again after that. UM,

955
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: what I have is one of the most successful touring

956
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: groups in the world. When LP and I started working together,

957
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: in the first three hours, I called it guy to

958
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: put it together, like we're supposed to be making. This

959
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: is like Bomb Squad and Ice Cub together. UM. Since

960
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: then in the last ten years, ten years next year

961
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: will be the anniversary of rap music. On first solo

962
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: record he produced UM that came right out of Williams Street,

963
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: right overall, not not too far from here. And then

964
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: we formed a group. And there's something about cooperation and

965
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: collaboration that makes it unstoppable. And he and I have cooperated, collaborated.

966
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: He's one of my best friends in the world. We

967
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: make some of the best rap music in the world.

968
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: We get some of the best shows. And next year,

969
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: come March, will be opening for Rage against the Machine

970
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: um for for the full year. I was gonna be

971
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: out there, you know, and I'm gonna I'm gonna my

972
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: wife saries'ly gonna go make a lot of money. Were

973
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: going to invest in Bury and we'll visit in twenty years,

974
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: you know. So you're not just doing this for you

975
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: every time you say something it's a week. Yeah, yeah,

976
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: you know there was. You're trying to grow something for

977
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: your family. Yeah, leg I see your family, generational wealth

978
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: for your community. Got to do it. So so you're

979
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: better that if you believe that we're better together, yeah

980
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: we are. I mean what are we? You know? What?

981
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: What what can you? You know? If everyone does a little,

982
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: nobody has to do a lot. I truly believe that

983
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: if all of us do our little part, no one

984
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: has to do a lot. If there's one house on

985
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: the block whose yard is constantly unkept, if we as

986
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 1: neighbors agree to meet there on Saturday, we could spend

987
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: two hours in the yard has kept all us, you know.

988
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that because that's the philosophy. I'm

989
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: saying that because that's what we did in my neighborhood.

990
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: I remember cut miss Ruby Yard and my grandmother getting

991
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: twenty bucks one time. I thought I got twenty bucks

992
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: every time coming and she was like, no, you're not

993
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: gonna charge her. I was like, why is it? Because

994
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: she lived here before you did. She kicked up stuff

995
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: off the street for you, you know. And what I

996
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: and I understood and when whether it was there or

997
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: us going to say they made nursing home to help

998
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: people on Sundays, is that you owed something to the

999
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: people who had laid the foundation before you. And the

1000
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,959
Speaker 1: owen was was actual sweat. The owen was your little

1001
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 1: bit of of a piece of your income going into

1002
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: the pot that made sure that groceries you know, got around.

1003
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: You know. So I owe So I say we, because

1004
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: it is truly we. I can't do the ship myself.

1005
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: You know, I'm married. I married. I married the woman

1006
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: I married because you know, she's beautiful. Girl, got got

1007
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: great bumpers, you know, top and bottom. But with that said,

1008
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: man her mentality, her mentality bumpers. Yeah, you know, she's

1009
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: felt like a Ferrari man sexy lines. But it's her mind. Absolutely,

1010
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: it's it's her mind. I knew that as an artist,

1011
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: I could get frivolous, I could get dreamy and flighty.

1012
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: She wants to know the numbers, you know, and that

1013
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: that's important that you have that balanced. Proverbs thirty one

1014
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: ten through thirty one talks about that talks about the

1015
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: type of woman. I'm not even I was raised in church,

1016
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: but I'm not the most religious guy. But the lessons

1017
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: and the moral lessons that you learned where I've I've

1018
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: kept for most of my life. And I appreciate my

1019
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: grandmother for in posing the money. I was talking to

1020
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: shape my shade you this morning that where my shade

1021
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: loves your shape yea, And yeah, I was talking about Uh.

1022
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: They hung out so late one night I had to

1023
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: go home and come back and get pick her him later.

1024
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: But uh, I was talking to her this morning about

1025
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: the donation that we're gonna make and I want to

1026
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: check it with her, make sure she was cool with

1027
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: it from a transaction I'm doing. And she's like, this

1028
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: is cool, John's really nice. You're doing it. What are

1029
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: you getting. She's like, I don't see anything in here

1030
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: about what you're getting. Like, you know you're not gonna

1031
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: spend all this time building up this company whatever, and

1032
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: then you don't get anything now that that dog don't hunt,

1033
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: charity starts at home. She wanted to make sure that

1034
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: that her man was Okay, you need you need something.

1035
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: You need something other than just arm candy, just something

1036
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: other than que Look, when you go the folks, young people,

1037
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: there's some young young people watching. Listen to this podcast.

1038
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: I want you to do something. When you go to

1039
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: COVID friendly vaccinated club. By the way, I got the

1040
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 1: Blushers shop and just walk right through some COVID stuff

1041
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: last week without being touched. I'm telling the shot works.

1042
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: But you're going to you you go to the vaccinated

1043
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: club or whatever, and you in there and you see

1044
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: somebody attractive, good guy. You see a fine woman. Ladies,

1045
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: you see a handsome man. He said, oh baby, you're

1046
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: so fine, you're so gad. That's cool. Wait, what's your name?

1047
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: Okay cool? What's your credit score? Yeah, with the credit score,

1048
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: what are you passionate about? What's your purpose? Are we

1049
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: better together? Because two plus two equals six or eight? Uh,

1050
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, can you raise children? Can you? Can you

1051
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: run a household? If I build a house, can you

1052
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: can you turn into a home? You know what? What's

1053
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: your vision? We're gonna build something that we just were

1054
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: we have. This is your partner, this is your business partner,

1055
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: your life partner. It's serious, absolutely absolutely absolutely absolutely absolutely

1056
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: so somebody, let's let's let's let you drop the mic

1057
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: here as we wrap this thing up. Man if if

1058
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: this all is about building, right, this about building the

1059
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: good life? And I don't tell people what good life

1060
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: they should want to just talking about building, building self esteem,

1061
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Speaker 1: building your community, building spirituality, building net worth, build your

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Speaker 1: financial literacy. What's your building? As we wrap this thing up?

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Speaker 1: What is your building advice that you have for the listeners? What?

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Speaker 1: What vision do you have you want to leave these

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Speaker 1: folks with? And by the way, when you finish, how

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Speaker 1: can they reach you? How can they support you? But

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Speaker 1: what's your And we didn't tell me talking about Greenwood? Uh,

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Speaker 1: you can conclude that if you're like, but what what

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Speaker 1: what is before we get out of here? What's your building?

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Speaker 1: Perl of wisdom? Well, follow at bank Greenwood and follow

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Speaker 1: at Killer Mike and you can learn more about Greenwood

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Speaker 1: going to be talking about. That's the fintech company focused

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Speaker 1: on the black and Latin UM Latin X community. UM

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Speaker 1: focused on building wealth, focused on making sure we are

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Speaker 1: banking and not just simply check cashing places prevailors UM.

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Speaker 1: In terms of what's my personal philosophy and building, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it applies to you, but what I

1078
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: do know what has helped me is in dreaming far

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Speaker 1: bigger than that currently dream. That means, whatever my biggest

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Speaker 1: dream is, now, force yourself to dream bigger. I wanted

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00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: to own um my uncle's garage. You own. He was

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Speaker 1: the first business owner that that. I just admired it.

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00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: My wife says, now that you've gotten a building to

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Speaker 1: do your office, I'm gonna take this and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go four flows up. We're gonna build apartments. I never

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00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: thought of that. She thought of that. You know, So

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Speaker 1: be with someone that thinks of dreams bigger than you.

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Speaker 1: If you're not live less than people suspect um, you know,

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Speaker 1: live below your means. If you can get the million

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Speaker 1: on at home, get the half a million on at home,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You don't, you don't have

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Speaker 1: to show everything. I always tell people, you know, be

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00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: cool at lane, being rich, play broke. You know, those

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Speaker 1: are the things, and this is all things I just

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00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: learned from old people, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 1: be modest um, like for the jury I have on

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Speaker 1: the day, I have lots more jury. I warned my

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Speaker 1: mother and my grandmother just watch. I bought off a

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Speaker 1: widow who just had you know, she didn't want to

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Speaker 1: keep for husband's watched. She didn't want someone to have

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Speaker 1: it who wouldn't care about it. So I bought it off.

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Speaker 1: You know I didn't. I never would have bought a

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00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: Rolex with diamonds um, but if it would help a

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Speaker 1: friend out and then keep it around and she do

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Speaker 1: not take care of it, I did it because my

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00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: favorite Rolex is a submariner. My wife bought me for

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Speaker 1: my birthday with no jewels in it. It's just beautiful

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Speaker 1: blue and gold. I had always wanted a submarine. I

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00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: didn't need to watch after that, so I tried my

1110
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Speaker 1: very best to live like my grandfather fifty. I'll probably

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Speaker 1: just start wearing overalls and work boots like him, you know,

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Speaker 1: So you know, be cool egg Lane. You know what

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00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying, be rich, play broke, you know, just just

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Speaker 1: be be modest. Be My friend Bear told me Barlow

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00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: a bear strong shouts out to them. They just collected

1116
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: a bunch of money and stuff um for kids who

1117
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: don't have Christmas and essentials like you know, the underwear,

1118
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: socks and winter coats, stuff like that. And we're gonna

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00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: go to four seasons. I think that Sunday and gives

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Speaker 1: them stuff away. But Bear says, you know, when you

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00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: hear the meek schelling hair dirth, you often think the weak,

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00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: weak meek people aren't weak. A meek man don't have

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Speaker 1: a sword and have the ability to kill you. But

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Speaker 1: simply because he knows you're a fool, won't you know?

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Speaker 1: He says, so the intelligent will, those that are prepared

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Speaker 1: for war but don't have to engage in it, Those

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Speaker 1: are going to be the inheritance because they're using their mind.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you read the article or it talks

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Speaker 1: about the ultimate form of war, being able to solve

1130
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Speaker 1: the problem with your mind. Talks about the brother whose

1131
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: name is no not not even outside the house, because

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Speaker 1: he can see sickness before whatever forms and correct behaviors

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Speaker 1: that start sickness. So just try to be that, try

1134
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Speaker 1: to use your mind on a daily basis. You know,

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Speaker 1: think it's nothing, it's nothing shameful about making a mistake.

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Speaker 1: Make the mistake, learn from the mistake, adjust and try

1137
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: it again. You know, give yourself some time and give

1138
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: yourself a break. Don't beat yourself up for failing. You know, um,

1139
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: I would almost say expect failure, don't expect failure, and

1140
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Speaker 1: just later and say I failed, but expect something not

1141
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: to go perfect. So when it doesn't, you learn from

1142
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: the imperfections and you're starting to appreciate the skills you

1143
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: developed as a result of it. That's how. And accept correction.

1144
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: You've had to call me and correct me. And you

1145
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: when you have to accept correction, you know, but but

1146
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: but but absolutely it was done in love, and you

1147
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't have corrected me some people, you know, and people

1148
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: don't love you to help. Just watch you fail and

1149
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: watch it be a fool, but accept correction. You know.

1150
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: I know people used to hearing sexyr stuff. But but

1151
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, very very plainly, very very simple stuff, very

1152
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: very um using common sense, you know, trusting your intuition

1153
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: when something sounds too good to be true, you know,

1154
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 1: doing your homework, really doing your due diligence. That type

1155
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: of stuff comes into play, you know, And I think

1156
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: you'll be okay and realize that much like my great

1157
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: grandparents realized we are the cornerstone for something greater. I

1158
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: know my great grandmother I knew so she was I

1159
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Speaker 1: was ten years old, I think when she died, for

1160
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Speaker 1: I was the sickly child. They sent us to the farm.

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Speaker 1: I got als and I can't do much. I'm scared

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Speaker 1: of everything. You know what I'm saying. I'll never forget

1163
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: a dog out at a chicken. And I went in

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Speaker 1: and said dogs that the chicken. She came out, pulled

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00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: a twenty two, like out of an apron po pop

1166
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: the dog like a wild dog, right in the thigh.

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Speaker 1: It's getting out of there. She picked up the chicken,

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Speaker 1: rain the neck, the chicken hands in her the chicken

1169
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 1: heads in her hand. The chicken I was just playing

1170
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: with his running around headless. She looks at me and says,

1171
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 1: go fetch me some water. So I run out of

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Speaker 1: the back door all the way to the lake. And

1173
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 1: I tell my cousins like big moms who went crazy.

1174
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: She killed the dogs to kill the chicken. You're gonna

1175
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: kill us all. And they laughed at me. They brought

1176
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: the girls throughout the water back and water was boiling.

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00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,479
Speaker 1: That chicken was plucked. The chicken was on the table

1178
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: at three or thirty because she wasn't gonna waste that chicken,

1179
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: even if the dog at it. But she took me

1180
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: behind the house later on family some ice cream and

1181
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: just kind of sat and had a moment with me

1182
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: because what she understood is that I was afraid. I

1183
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: was scared, but I wasn't above learning. I had to

1184
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: understand where food really came from. I had to understand

1185
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: in the process to learn not to waste, and I

1186
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: had to learn to not let fear consume me. And

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00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: after that moment, I was never the same. After that moment,

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Speaker 1: I was much stronger on that farm. After that moment,

1189
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: I was much more a brave, much more adventurous. But

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Speaker 1: it took her having to show me this is the

1191
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: world is hard, the world is not fair, but you're

1192
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: built for it, your child, You're mostly made a water.

1193
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: You follow, You'll get back up, wipe y'all. You know,

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00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 1: I'll never forget one time I pete in my pants

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00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: on the farm. She just put me in front of

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00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: the fire, let me draw out, send me back outside.

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00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: I mean so and and I have been blessed to

1198
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: have been around people that did not protect me from struggle.

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Speaker 1: Run into the fight that rainbows after storm. Absolutely so,

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Speaker 1: here we go with another master class, my man killing

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Speaker 1: Mike A Michael Render. It's proven that you can be

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00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 1: high tech and high touch. You can go from your

1203
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: street to Main Street to Wall Street and back. You

1204
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: can be authentic. You can speak to King's English and

1205
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: translate into job as you want to and retain your dignity,

1206
00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: your authenticity, and your and show your intelligence all the

1207
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: same breath. He tells you to run into the fight,

1208
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: don't don't run away from it. He tells you that

1209
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: the calmest place in the hurricane is a center. He

1210
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: tells you that we may want to be locked into

1211
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Speaker 1: fear and I talked about in love leadership, or we

1212
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: want to embrace struggle as what happens when you're just

1213
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: dealing with drama all the time. Then you get a

1214
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: surviving mentality. He tells you to rise above that and

1215
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: find the light and gain a thriving mentality and then

1216
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: a winning mentality, because winners of buildings. Everybody who's a

1217
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: winner believed they are a winner before they ever wanted anything.

1218
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Speaker 1: And going back to every segment of Michael's story, even

1219
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: though he wasn't really raised by his mom and his dad,

1220
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: he was raised by his grandparents. He had all he

1221
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: raised so called poor. He was raising underserved areas he had.

1222
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: He did not the advantages, but he made his own

1223
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: advantage over the round it, through it, he just got

1224
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: to it. He decided he was going to build his

1225
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: life as he was going to live his life to

1226
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: a maximum potential. Reminds me of Dr King said, if

1227
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: you are going to be a trash collector, to be

1228
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: the best trash collector of the world's ever seen. Whatever

1229
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: you do, do it with excellence, do it with your

1230
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: whole life, leaning it with and run into the fight.

1231
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Speaker 1: This is John Hope bryan and this has been building

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Speaker 1: the good life. Building the good Life with John Hope

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