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Speaker 1: On, Let's get back to the stadium for analysis and

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Speaker 1: exclusive interviews from the Cardinals locker room. Here's Dave pash A,

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Speaker 1: two Shipley and Aul Calvisa.

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Speaker 3: Cardinals were down thirteen to seven, and we thought, okay,

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Speaker 3: after the Michael Wilson touchdown, that that gave some life

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Speaker 3: to this team and they would respond. But it did

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Speaker 3: not happen. And you just look at the offense. The

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Speaker 3: Cardinals had two hundred and thirty three yards of offense

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Speaker 3: and a lot of that came at the end when

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Speaker 3: the game was already decided. Cincinnati had four to twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: Cardinals had the ball for nineteen minutes to forty one

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Speaker 3: for Cincinnati. The Cardinals were three for thirteen on third down.

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati was ten to fifteen. Not a lot of positivity

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Speaker 3: coming out of this one. And we'll be curious at

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Speaker 3: this point what Jonathan Gannon's messages to the team. If

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Speaker 3: you're a player, AQ and you just played in this

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Speaker 3: game and you're one of the guys who gave it

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Speaker 3: all you're one of the guys who didn't make mental errors,

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Speaker 3: who was sound in the fundamentals. What is your feeling

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Speaker 3: towards some of your teammates that weren't When you have

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Speaker 3: a game like this, knowing you're out of the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: but you're still trying to win football games.

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Speaker 2: Listen, you're taught at a young age never to point

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Speaker 2: fingers and never to blame, and don't be part of

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Speaker 2: the problem, be part of the solution, and you know,

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Speaker 2: all those things to have to take into consideration whenever

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Speaker 2: you are playing a team sport. But I think the

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Speaker 2: biggest thing that again, like I've been on some teams

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Speaker 2: that lost. It wasn't many, but there was some losing

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Speaker 2: seasons in my career, and whenever that happened, all I

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Speaker 2: kept telling myself is, Hey, when you're out of the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: you just got to go put your best foot forward,

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Speaker 2: be the consummate professional, the ultimate team, and play your

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Speaker 2: best football. Be as prepared as you possibly can so

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Speaker 2: you can go out play good football, play physical play,

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Speaker 2: smart play, tough play, all of the things that you

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Speaker 2: know is the right way to play the game, and

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Speaker 2: hopefully everybody else follows suit and echoes that sentiment and

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Speaker 2: does the same thing. When you start seeing all the

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Speaker 2: pre snap and postnap penalties. That's the frustrating thing, all

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Speaker 2: the stuff. I don't think we're ever gonna question effort.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna question how hard people play.

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Speaker 2: But part of what you do during your effort is

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Speaker 2: playing smart. It's doing things the right way, it's executing,

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Speaker 2: and this team has lacked that.

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Speaker 3: Again on a day where yeah they're injuries. Buddha Baker

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Speaker 3: didn't play, but Jalen Thompson did, Will Johnson essentially a starter.

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Speaker 3: The bulk of the d lineman and outside linebackers Avin Collins,

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Speaker 3: Josh Swat, Kalaist Campbell, Thomlinson, Darius Robinson, they're all starters.

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Speaker 3: Davis gaither Is based been a starter all year. So

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Speaker 3: you got a lot of guys that are used to

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Speaker 3: playing and it didn't look like it today. Just poor tackling,

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Speaker 3: just not really a threat to show any resistance. You

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Speaker 3: didn't see any takeaways, didn't see a lot of pressure

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Speaker 3: on the quarterback. That certainly was disappointing. On the other

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Speaker 3: side of the ball against the worst defense in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: or close to the worst defense in the NFL to

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Speaker 3: basically have seven points. Forget the end because the Bengals

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Speaker 3: had backups in at that point, the game is over.

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Speaker 3: The offense just couldn't move the ball and convert and

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Speaker 3: keep drives going, couldn't convert on third down. Let's go

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Speaker 3: to Paul.

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Speaker 4: All right, Cody, you're evaluating this one. I know you're

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Speaker 4: fresh off the field, but what stands out the most

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Speaker 5: Just frustration. I mean, we we we know we can

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Speaker 5: play better and we're just not playing to our standard.

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Speaker 5: And it was just we got to, you know, kind

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Speaker 5: and you know, it's really nothing really more more to it.

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Speaker 4: You know, at halftime, coach Cannon cited third down in

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Speaker 4: particular is the story of the game, both sides of

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Speaker 5: You know, they execute well and we didn't execute well enough.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's it really comes down to what we do,

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Speaker 5: and we don't really you know, we focus on what

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Speaker 5: and that really comes makes the outcome of the game.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 5: You know, if if we're not getting our stops and

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Speaker 4: You're learning these quarterbacks in the NFL. JG had mentioned

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Speaker 4: how patient Joe Burrow is, you know, tell us about

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Speaker 4: that and what the challenge is going against him, man

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Speaker 5: He's he's the reasons, one of the better best quarterbacks

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Speaker 5: in the in the league. And you know he's he's

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Speaker 5: a he processes as well. And I think we just

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Speaker 5: need to do our jobs better, you know, whether we

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Speaker 5: I gotta better too. And you know, I know that

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Speaker 5: what the standard looks like, and I would I didn't

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Speaker 4: Yet you had fifteen tackles in this game. You had

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Speaker 4: a half sack. I mean, where have you been better?

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Speaker 4: I mean it's an evolution as a rookie obviously, and

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Speaker 4: you know you've been getting a ton of snaps. Where

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Speaker 4: do you like where your game has has evolved been

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, just taking control and being a

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Speaker 5: force is where I just need to get better at,

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Speaker 5: because you know, there's certainly plays that out there to

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Speaker 5: but I don't think we play anyone with everyone will

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Speaker 5: agree on in the locker room that we didn't play

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Speaker 5: how we wanted to. And it starts with me, and

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Speaker 5: I got to be better in a lot of areas.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's it's a what have you done for

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Speaker 5: me lately? League? So it's it's once I review the

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Speaker 5: notes and everything, we got to get back and play better.

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Speaker 5: That's just the story. We just got to play better.

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Speaker 4: When it comes to tackling. What were your thoughts today?

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Speaker 4: And they seemed like they did a pretty good job

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they have the really good athletes, and

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Speaker 5: you know, we have to we do better again. Starts

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Speaker 5: with me, Like tackling, we got knocked players back and

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Speaker 5: and uh, you know, those hitting yardages can can really

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Speaker 4: Last question. JG mentioned Thursday's practice might have been the

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Speaker 4: best of the year. What do you think didn't translate

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure really. Uh, we had a lot of energy,

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Speaker 5: we had a lot of you know, the guys were

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Speaker 5: something that was that was different. I feel like with

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Speaker 5: comes down to we're not executing at a high enough

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Speaker 4: So oh yeah, I know, emotions a wrong Appreciate the time,

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Speaker 4: thank you, thank you for sure there you guys go.

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Speaker 3: Cody Simon, Well, you heard Paul talk about this being

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Speaker 3: the best practice Thursday. You run hour down on the

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Speaker 3: field for a while. I heard this was maybe the

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Speaker 3: best practice of the year, best practice week of the year,

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Speaker 3: which is quite alarming. Then when you see the performance,

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Speaker 3: why doesn't that translate because you hear that all the time, Well,

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Speaker 3: we had a great week of practice. We didn't see

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Speaker 2: I think that gets over amplified so much. I think

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Speaker 2: that's the one thing that gets over amplified from coaches,

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Speaker 2: because from day one, all you ever hear is, hey,

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Speaker 2: you practice how or you play how you practice right?

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Speaker 2: And you practice how you play, and so you hear

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Speaker 2: that over and over again, you think you need good

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Speaker 2: weeks of practice. I've been a part of so many

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Speaker 2: teams that have had some of the worst weeks of

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Speaker 2: practice and gone out and lit the world on fire

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Speaker 2: on game day and thrown for three hundred and ran

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Speaker 2: for one fifty. So, in my opinion, I think game

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Speaker 2: day is all about mindset. It's all about how you

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Speaker 2: can control your emotions, how your mindset is going into

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Speaker 2: the week, how you can handle the ebbs and flows,

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Speaker 2: the ups and downs of the game, how you can

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Speaker 2: keep it calm right. I think all of those things

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Speaker 2: play into game day. Yes, I think your individual technique

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Speaker 2: and all of those things. But to sit here and say, okay,

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Speaker 2: well we had our best week of practice as a team, Well,

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Speaker 2: how you performed the next day isn't necessarily predetermined by

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Speaker 2: how you did on Wednesday's practice, in my opinion, so

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Speaker 2: I think it's one of the most over amplified things.

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Speaker 2: And I do think, yeah, that's a great sign of

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Speaker 2: still got to control your own emotions. Each person individually

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Speaker 2: go out and play together, and then hopefully everybody can

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Speaker 3: The other thing that's surprising, it is not Cincinnati weather.

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Speaker 3: This is Arizona, December weather, mid sixties. It's little sun today.

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Speaker 3: Yet the Cardinals played as if this was a cold

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Speaker 3: It's how it looked, and not saying they didn't want

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Speaker 3: they were getting pushed around on defense they couldn't go

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Speaker 3: It was thirteen to nothing only because of the missed point.

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Speaker 3: After Michael Wilson makes this great play, gets into the

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Speaker 3: And then the Cardinals gave up on third and twenty

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Speaker 3: two of a fifteen yard gain that led to a

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Speaker 3: that the floodgates just opened. I don't know if that,

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Speaker 3: I don't know why that would have been the momentum

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals. But it just felt like there was little

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Speaker 2: I agree, and I think I think the one thing

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Speaker 2: that you and I have talked about so much this

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Speaker 2: year's situational football. And when you say situation of football,

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Speaker 2: that means third down, that means red zone, that means

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Speaker 2: all of the important downs, right, But more than that,

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Speaker 2: it's understanding and having awareness in situations. And I think

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Speaker 2: that one particular play we're talking about is the screenplay

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Speaker 2: on third and twenty plus and they end up getting

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Speaker 2: into field goal range and kicking a field goal. And

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Speaker 2: those are the moments that we've watched this team not

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Speaker 2: handle well all year long. And I think, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: sit here and say, oh, it doesn't come down to

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Speaker 2: one play, but that one play turned into an avalanche.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what happened. And they get the points. Then

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Speaker 2: you come down, you don't get any points, and I

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Speaker 2: think you go three and out on offense, and all

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