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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer an I'm Heeart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hi guys, Hi, Oh are you doing? Oh? Just over

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Speaker 2: your conteplain? How much to share? As usual normal wind

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Speaker 2: down podcast day.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that how everyone starts? Like you have all these

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Speaker 3: things in your head and you're.

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Speaker 2: Like, do I talk about this? Do I not? You know? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I got a question answer any update from your friend? None?

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Speaker 2: Oh that's okay. The friends still follow yeah, oh just

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Speaker 2: checking in. There's time. Well, it's always when it's this

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Speaker 2: social clip that I'm like, oh, we want to get

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Speaker 2: somewhere with this one.

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Speaker 3: It gives that I'm not gonna lie every time the

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Speaker 3: tag comes through, I'm like, oh, same, Like, hold your breath,

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Speaker 3: what's the social clip going to be?

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Speaker 2: Well? This is interesting, lovely segue, Oh boy, Because sometimes

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Speaker 2: you don't have to have the clip absolutely to cause drama. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can't tell you how many times I

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Speaker 3: go to Hannah and go, this is not going on socials.

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Speaker 2: She's like ah, and then here we are, and how

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Speaker 2: many requests for a show talking about said potential drama. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was not a clip that I'm like, let's talk

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 3: Nick the other day was like are you just gonna

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Speaker 3: stop talking about these things because things keep happening? And

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, I don't think I am. I

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Speaker 3: just you know, it is what it is, even when

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Speaker 3: it go ahead. No please, sorry, I was gonna say

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Speaker 3: even when it comes to haunt you two three months later,

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Speaker 3: like you just listen.

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Speaker 2: I here's a positive of it talking about it. Guess

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Speaker 2: who booked a three and a half week stay in

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Speaker 2: Tennessee Nana and Papa.

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Speaker 1: Oh well then well that might be a little there

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Speaker 1: you go, you know, I think now, yeah, they booked

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Speaker 1: an airbnb to come to come hang and be with

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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 3: Really been listening every day, they know, they know the battery.

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Speaker 2: Well what else can we work up in this little laboratory?

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Speaker 2: Let's stay though, So that's what we're different. I would

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Speaker 2: have never know, well, I mean three weeks and I

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Speaker 2: would do. I would do like a week and a half. Hey,

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Speaker 2: fun fact. Yeah yeah. Preston's mom has come for two

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Speaker 2: different two weeks since before and stayed with me for

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Speaker 2: two weeks and I absolutely adore having her. Right, So

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Speaker 2: I just want to I just want to throw that

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Speaker 2: well because I feel like my reputations, well, I just

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Speaker 2: feel like, my reputation on here is pretty bitchy. Like

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Speaker 2: it's like it kind of sucks because I feel like

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Speaker 2: now I'm always trying to defend myself because people always

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Speaker 2: like he doesn't want people in her house. I also

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Speaker 2: just came off of a little two night hosting of

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Speaker 2: my Eastern Michigan girlfriends that came into town, and I

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Speaker 2: piled in six people into my home and loved them

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Speaker 2: and loved them well and it was fun. So I

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Speaker 2: am actually nice.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that you have you're the one with

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Speaker 3: like the reputation of being bitchy.

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Speaker 2: You don't think people think I don't like they're always like, well,

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Speaker 2: we know, Chris, I'm not gonna have anybody over. It's like,

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Speaker 2: come on now, it's like you're one thing.

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Speaker 4: It's like, you won't let people come over.

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Speaker 2: But I do. Even you think I won't let people

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Speaker 2: come over.

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Speaker 4: I have them to your house, yes, but you've never

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Speaker 4: been to my house. I don't have people over.

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Speaker 2: So maybe that's the one that does like people over.

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Speaker 4: Oh everyone knows I'm the bitch.

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Speaker 3: Really, people really appreciate it, though, No, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I would think from the outside looking in. Of all

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Speaker 3: three of us. I'm the bitch of the podcast.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that at all. I think you can

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Speaker 2: I vote myself to bitch. No it's me. No, I

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Speaker 2: don't think so. I actually thoroughly enjoy it. I've told

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Speaker 2: you that below. And if it is, I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to look at the poll. How do

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Speaker 2: you not look? I don't look a lot. Pull even

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Speaker 2: get in the comments. When I said I hated football,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not going in these comments. Come

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Speaker 2: to get real love.

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Speaker 3: You really should have then gotten to my TikTok comments

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Speaker 3: about me and the.

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Speaker 2: Same oh boy, and well it's resurrected.

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Speaker 3: It's a fun day. And not even mind that when

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Speaker 3: being on social it's just when I talk about.

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Speaker 2: People like family. So here's here's the thing. So I

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Speaker 2: think there are aspects. And again I've said many times

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Speaker 2: on here it'd be nice if Bananas and Papas were

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Speaker 2: able to spend more time or go to games and stuff.

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Speaker 2: And maybe I'm not saying the podcast was the reason

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Speaker 2: that they have booked, but I think it is maybe

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Speaker 2: recognizing like okay, maybe I don't know. I'm making this

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Speaker 2: back completely, not the Airbnb part, but you know, in

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Speaker 2: my mind, it's something that they're maybe recognizing too, to

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Speaker 2: spend to spend more time while the kids are at

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Speaker 2: such a beautiful age to that want them around, right. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and so with your situation though when they're not clips. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and there's a you know. But here's here's what I

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Speaker 2: love about it. So we are you spoke about? We

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Speaker 2: are in it today?

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Speaker 1: Girls.

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Speaker 2: I just you spoke about your mom listening, and she

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Speaker 2: texted a beautiful text being like I did care and

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Speaker 2: can we have a conversation. You've said you were waiting

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Speaker 2: on a text message to send. Have you sent said

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Speaker 2: text message? Yes?

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Speaker 4: I sent a text message, And.

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Speaker 5: Basically she's so sweet at the game, She's like, I

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Speaker 5: just like, I almost wanted to be like, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: I love you, and I did. I was really close

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Speaker 2: to you, but I didn't also want her to feel

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Speaker 2: because it would have been She's so great. I love her,

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Speaker 2: I love your mom, I love your dad, I love

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Speaker 2: I've never met these people, but I'm just saying it's.

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Speaker 5: I think it's beautiful how she responded to this. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 5: But what is interesting though, is it it is walking

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Speaker 5: a tight line, a tightrope. Oh yeah, with concause we

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Speaker 5: want to share our truth. Unfortunately, our truth does involve

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Speaker 5: people in the story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it just gets so tricky.

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Speaker 5: It does, because you want to share, yes, and then

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Speaker 5: it's it's and again it's that line of most likely

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Speaker 5: someone's going to be a part of that story with you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it can't just be us, No, I

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Speaker 3: mean it can, but very rarely it does involve other

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Speaker 3: I mean it usually involves other people.

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Speaker 5: I know, which is funny though, because I've I've had

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Speaker 5: actually someone reach out to me and say, you know,

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Speaker 5: you've spoken about people on your podcast, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I really want to share something about my ex because

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Speaker 5: I know these things and it's so frustrating. You know,

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Speaker 5: she's listening all these things. And I said to her,

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Speaker 5: I said, what is your reasoning for wanting to speak

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Speaker 2: Is it to hurt him?

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Speaker 5: Is it to to bash him publicly? I said, If

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Speaker 5: those are your reasons, then don't do it. Yes, it

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Speaker 5: is frustrating that they are doing X, Y and Z,

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Speaker 5: and they are doing this. I said, but if it's

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Speaker 5: to help other people then and to help you through

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Speaker 5: sharing your story, then to help other people, then yes,

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Speaker 5: I think it's okay. But if it's just to go

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Speaker 5: after someone on a public platform, that's not okay, right.

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Speaker 5: But I don't think we've ever sat here, and I mean, yes,

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Speaker 5: I've obviously talked about X's on here and there are

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Speaker 5: things I could say, right, but also to protect my kids,

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Speaker 5: and also, it's not what they do now in their

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Speaker 5: free time is not my business, right, right, right, or

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Speaker 5: what I know now about certain things, It's not my

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Speaker 5: job to come on here and expose what they're doing

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Speaker 5: behind closed doors. Now, if it affects my kids, I'll

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Speaker 5: handle it privately or if it'll you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: But when it comes to things that I've gone through

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Speaker 5: in ex relationships, it's more just how I felt in

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Speaker 5: the situation, and they're they're the bystander of that. They're

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Speaker 5: the people that came that either hurt or how I

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Speaker 5: grew and healed with it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's it's not.

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Speaker 5: It's never our intention to hurt people that we might

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Speaker 5: talk about that might be family or an X.

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Speaker 2: Right, It's just it is our truth of that story.

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Speaker 3: Right, And I think it's important to see the intentionality

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Speaker 3: behind it. But I think that maybe sometimes that's probably

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Speaker 3: hard because if it's me and I'm listening to someone

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Speaker 3: that may be hard to see the intentionality behind it. Sure,

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Speaker 3: i'd be like, hey, why are you talking about me

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Speaker 3: on this podcast? But generally there's a reason why we

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Speaker 3: talk about things. You know, we like to talk things

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Speaker 2: We do.

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Speaker 3: We like people's we like our opinions, you know, like

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Speaker 3: we don't really get to talk except for this time

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Speaker 2: It is very true.

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Speaker 5: And also I always think the underlying truth of it

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Speaker 5: is that if it could help someone else feel none alone,

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Speaker 5: then I'm going to share it. Yeah, And that's always

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Speaker 5: my intention. I have not done that perfectly, but that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's always been your intention. I

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Speaker 3: just think sometimes it can come off. You know, we've

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Speaker 3: all had instances where it's come off like, man, was

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Speaker 3: where was the intention behind that?

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Speaker 2: Right? It sounds like we were just bashing, right X y.

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Speaker 4: Z because sometimes we can go, we can just get

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Speaker 2: We just keep going and its recording.

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Speaker 5: But you know what's so interesting though, is speaking of

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Speaker 5: the friend that AB had that you asked about, I

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Speaker 5: had another friend a good friend.

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Speaker 2: Again, we don't. We're not as close and I'm not

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Speaker 2: even going to give her a shout out here. Shane Grimes.

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Speaker 5: She sent me the longest voice memo just being like,

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Speaker 5: I am so sorry.

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Speaker 2: She's like, she's like, if this is about me? Because

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Speaker 2: she's like, I totally forgot to respond. She's like, because

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Speaker 2: I invited her to the premiere.

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Speaker 5: I invited her and she said I'm not sure, and

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Speaker 5: I was like, no worries, girl, just let me know

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Speaker 2: Well, she didn't listen. I get it. We're busy. It's funny,

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Speaker 5: But she's like, if this She's like, I'm spiraling. She's like,

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Speaker 5: if this is about me, I'm so sorry I didn't.

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Speaker 5: I like, I know that I didn't confirm one hundred

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Speaker 5: and then dis didn't show for sure. It's different and

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Speaker 5: and I mean I didn't even listen to all. I

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Speaker 5: just read the transcript of it because it was long.

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Speaker 5: She's like, oh my gosh, this isn't about me. That

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Speaker 5: I feel even stupider, and she's like, I love you,

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Speaker 5: and I just she's like, and I hate that we

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Speaker 5: And I just responded back. I'm like, girl, I love

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm like a great conversation because you weren't

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Speaker 3: This happens to me like every year. I feel like,

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna be honest, like I need to go

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: Oh not in the least. I'm I'm thankful that I

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Speaker 5: Well, what I've been recently told is that.

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Speaker 5: I said, I went to bed last night at eight thirty.

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Speaker 2: Look into it, you guys, because apparently that's what is.

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Speaker 3: Like I knew about like seasonal depression, which doesn't usually

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Speaker 3: I get I'm not good at like decorating for Christmas

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Speaker 3: Well then I see everyone start posting and it gets

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Speaker 5: Fine, start of business, let's start a girlfriend. I just

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Speaker 5: you though, girl, But let's look into that seasonal depression.

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Speaker 5: Also taking a talk to your doctor. But Saffron is

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Speaker 2: It's just helps with mood enhances.

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Speaker 5: I just stabilized, so so I'll do it.

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Speaker 5: Oh, so Seinfeld's moment, I was going to Dix because

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Speaker 2: But now we're just careful. Everybody's listening. I'm surprising him

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Speaker 5: So I go to Dick's and obviously the handicapped parking

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Speaker 5: At Walmart now because we were just there as well,

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Speaker 5: and at Dicks, but more so at the the Whole Foods.

436
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Speaker 2: But it's the or pick up. Have the next three

437
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 2: to four spots, and I'm like, listen, if you're coming

438
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 2: to go get your grocery, they put the parking spots

439
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 2: in the back, like you're already lazy to go pick

440
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 2: up your groceries. You don't need to park close. You

441
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 2: need to park close. Let us part close because we're

442
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 2: hauling the groceries back, So I'm sorry. The pre the

443
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,119
Speaker 2: online pick up things in those the next few lanes,

444
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 2: they pissed me off, so I parked in it. Revel,

445
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,879
Speaker 2: she did it. I have another one for you.

446
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 3: Well, hold on, I have I have a Devil's advocate

447
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 3: for this. It's for the workers that have to go back.

448
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,640
Speaker 3: And can you imagine if you were the worker, Okay,

449
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 3: they had to go, then understand that point of view.

450
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 2: The worker that gets paid to walk, I know.

451
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 4: But if you have to go back and forth and

452
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Speaker 4: get them the whole.

453
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 2: Time, like I understand that, then yeah, because you have

454
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Speaker 2: shoppers that are trying to come in and spend their money.

455
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Speaker 4: And do the work, I get that point of view.

456
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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, God, I have seen these workers go

457
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 3: like back and forth.

458
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Speaker 4: I have when it gets really busy, especially.

459
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Speaker 2: Like that makes sense, but when it's a target has

460
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 2: a side entrance, which I think is brilliant. One of

461
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 2: our targets here do that. They have this like other

462
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: entrance where they do the customer pick up, and those

463
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 2: spots are close to the building, but they're far away

464
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 2: and that's doing it.

465
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Speaker 3: And just so we know, I'm so lazy that I'm

466
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 3: not even driving up to do it. I'm getting it

467
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 3: delivered to myself. So at that point, I'm not even

468
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 3: taking up the spot. Okay, Okay, so.

469
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Speaker 2: You're actually not in this conversation about that. Minds you though.

470
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: When we were at DICKX, the whole parking lot was

471
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Speaker 2: completely open, but it did make me no smart.

472
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Speaker 4: I noticed it and thought about it too.

473
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Speaker 2: There's something else we're doing here in Nashville that I'm

474
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 2: really upset about. Okay, we have VIP parking, now what,

475
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Speaker 2: Oh I know at the Green Hills Mall and at

476
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Speaker 2: Galeria now, oh, what we have vip par I've done it.

477
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 2: I have done it.

478
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 4: I've done it too.

479
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 2: But I'm like, this isn't fair. Part of the retail

480
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 2: experience is getting that spot and going, oh, we're gonna

481
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Speaker 2: have a good deal today. Part of it is pulling

482
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 2: up and seeing somebody that is just wrapped up their

483
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,959
Speaker 2: shopping and putting your blinker on and just knowing you're

484
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 2: setting the tone for your trip and now they're all

485
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 2: empty and just being waited.

486
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 4: Waited to pay for that is frustrating.

487
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 2: That's it's crazy. What are we doing to the park

488
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 2: linding ways? The rules of the parking lot have always

489
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: been what they will be. It is up to God

490
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: and karma if you get the close spot that has nothing.

491
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 2: This is not up to you to delegates more than ten,

492
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Speaker 2: is it.

493
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Speaker 4: I'm that's ridiculous. I can't believe I did that.

494
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: And then while you're shopping and get an alert because

495
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 2: we all paid for it, that says, hey, yeah, do

496
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 2: you want to pay more running through the store to

497
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 2: hurry up your thing? And then I've got friends who

498
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 2: maybe like you don't even pay it and just park

499
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 2: their anyway, and they're like, you know, forget it, I

500
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Speaker 2: don't care, And I'm does that work so far? They

501
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 2: don't have tickets or anything, And I'm like, it would

502
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 2: be my luck that if I didn't pay.

503
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Speaker 4: I don't think we should do that, And that's that's

504
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Speaker 4: not advice.

505
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Speaker 2: I know, Well, you would manage your cat. What's on

506
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Speaker 2: your thinking cat?

507
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Speaker 4: No, I'm yeah, I mean, hey, I'm a valet person

508
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 4: throwing through amen.

509
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: The easiest, the better. But I just also was like,

510
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: that's not how this works.

511
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Speaker 3: We all know, I know, And there's so many of them,

512
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 3: so many Yeah, I agree.

513
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 2: I make it like one parking lot where we all

514
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: just decide, you know, this is your VIP parking. Oh

515
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: you're supposed to like have to wait and part of

516
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: like if you ever listen to the secret manifesting your

517
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: parking spot, like that's all part of the exercise and

518
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: all they're just taking it away. Anyways, we just really

519
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 2: went with that. Sorry, I'll just never forget. I know

520
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 2: you really to thank you for taking my fires me up.

521
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,719
Speaker 2: I know, and it's actually really smart. You're right. I

522
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 2: mean I still do that thing whenever we do get

523
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 2: it a close up parking spot, I still do it.

524
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Speaker 2: My mom said, like, looks like we're going to get

525
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: a good deal today, you know, because we got a

526
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: good spot. No, I didn't know that was the thing.

527
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Speaker 4: That's cute.

528
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: It is cute. It sets the tone for your shopping trip. Yeah,

529
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 2: got it. It's made a good front spot. Then that

530
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: means you're going to get a good deal. Okay, you're

531
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Speaker 2: destined to have a bogo day.

532
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Speaker 5: One of the stories, Let's be a Midwestern Things see

533
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 5: Britney snowtoks rewiring her brain after years of having so

534
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 5: much disdain for my body. Britney Snow's opening up up

535
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Speaker 5: about her overcoming her body image struggles. The actress thirty

536
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 5: nine at are issues with body image began an early age,

537
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 5: recalling moments where she would hoard women's fitness magazines in

538
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 5: her teenage years. She couldn't even be naked around myself.

539
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 5: She said, I had so much disdain for my body,

540
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 5: and I couldn't see myself as a functional, beautiful being.

541
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Speaker 5: I only saw the things that were wrong with me.

542
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 5: That led to the act that led the actress struggling

543
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Speaker 5: with inarexia, exercise, bolimia, depression, and self harm. She said

544
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Speaker 5: she had to rewire her brain and learn to trust

545
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Speaker 5: herself again. She said, I think rewiring my brain where

546
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Speaker 5: I could count on myself and I could trust myself,

547
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,239
Speaker 5: I could be in a space and feel like I

548
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 5: wasn't going to do something harmful to myself was the

549
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Speaker 5: best thing that ever could have happened to my recovery.

550
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Speaker 5: So she also said that she had a couple stints

551
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 5: and an inpatient rehab center, but it was outpatient program

552
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 5: where she committed two for a year that saved her life. Listen,

553
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 5: I am the hugest advocate for rewiring your brain. I mean,

554
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 5: I think that's what EMDR was so helpful for me

555
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 5: with a lot of my anxiety. But I will just

556
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 5: say the on the body side of things, I mean,

557
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 5: I'll never forget it's we're all in the same age.

558
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 5: We're all i mean, we're two years older than Brittany.

559
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 5: But reading those magazines. I used to read those magazines

560
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 5: like the Glamours and the Women's Health how to lose

561
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 5: five pounds, and I mean there was just and it's

562
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 5: such a young age in my twenties, I'm trying to

563
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 5: figure out how to how to lose this weight. And

564
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 5: you know, again growing up with Britney Spears and all

565
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 5: those when talking about body and weight, it's just it's wild.

566
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Speaker 2: It's sad. I was going to say it has to

567
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: be our generation, yep, because I still do this. I mean,

568
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be honest, like there's days where I'm going,

569
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: oughf only this, if only you know, and I'm but

570
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: I have this like healthy, wonderful body that's capable, and

571
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: that's a blessing in itself. And I try to but

572
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 2: it is so ingrained in me. You know, like there's

573
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: even fitness programs that our friends are doing where it's

574
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: like count the macros and do this, and do that,

575
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I can't do that be slippery slope

576
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: for me because I can get compulsive about that very quickly. Yeah,

577
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: and that's just not I need to exercise with with

578
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: my ABS being like a fun perk. It's mostly for

579
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: like anxiety and like my mood and I can't hyper

580
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 2: focus or I can go on slippery slopes. It's not

581
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: like way better now than I've ever been, way way better.

582
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: But I I mean I was boleemic. I mean I

583
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: means anybody else had a needing disorder.

584
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 5: No, I when I was in middle school, I was

585
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 5: a figure skater.

586
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: And I don't don't how do I say this?

587
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 5: Like I had written this letter and I had to

588
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 5: go to the counselors like all the girls. So the

589
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 5: girls that were here, like some of the girls they

590
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 5: I had given this letter to Lisa, Oh, Lisa, I

591
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 5: know she took it to the counselor sweet mol Yeah.

592
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 5: But looking back in that moment, I mean I remember

593
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 5: coming home and shoving because I was saying I was

594
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 5: like start for myself. It was during the time like

595
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 5: the early start of my parents' divorce. And so that

596
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 5: was eighth grade, and well I got home and I'm

597
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 5: like shoving donuts to like prove to my mom like

598
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 5: that I didn't have. I just I wanted attention truly

599
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 5: in that moment. So I can't say that was a

600
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 5: needing disorder, but that was an attention piece. But when

601
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 5: I was with my acts, I had a compulsion with

602
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 5: the scale because that was all that I could.

603
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: Control in that moment. It was always a control thing

604
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: for me. Yeah yeah, so that couldn't control his affairs,

605
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,239
Speaker 2: but I could control the number on the scale. And

606
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: I also think that you put yourself in media, are acting,

607
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: you know, like all of that. That's like a whole

608
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: thing too. That's a crazy other people, a million other

609
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: people then are critiquing your body, not just you. But

610
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: but I've never been I would never say I was

611
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 2: had an eating disorder. Yeah, I was really in it.

612
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: And one of my very best friends also had. She

613
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: was anarexic, and I remember sitting down with her and

614
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: saying like, you know, like I'm really scared for you,

615
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: Like it got really bad, Kat, what we're gonna say.

616
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Speaker 3: I just wonder in these moments, like yes, we had

617
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 3: the magazines you know then, but like truly, what was

618
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: the difference, what was the difference in you said that

619
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 3: you had an eating disorder at some point, and you

620
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: looking at the magazine and me look at looking at

621
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: the magazine. What like I'm thinking about my daughters. Like

622
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: what causes some a child, a young person to look

623
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: at that and think that they have to change and

624
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: they're not happy with themselves versus someone else.

625
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

626
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: Like, it can't just just be the magazines, because you

627
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Or it can't just be social

628
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: media because we want to blame you know, I want

629
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: to blame so much on social media now, And we

630
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: didn't have social media right exactly, so then it was magazines.

631
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, and even now, I mean Julie she doesn't have

632
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 5: social media. But this is like a month or so ago.

633
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 5: She said something about she wants to be thin. I'm like, honey,

634
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 5: you are thin, like what you you have a beautiful.

635
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: Body, you know.

636
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, But it was because she said she said she

637
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 5: was fat. I said to honey, I was like, who

638
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 5: said that? Because I'm like, that is so. But she

639
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 5: was wearing the wrong size clothes clothes, so because she said, well,

640
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 5: nothing fits me at daddy's so I had to like

641
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 5: call my ax and be like, hey, we got to

642
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 5: get the right cause she's now getting a body complex

643
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 5: right that she can't send their case.

644
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: You know.

645
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 5: And so he was like, oh my god, I didn't

646
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 5: even like you know, so we like, but how quick

647
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 5: that can just happen like that?

648
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 4: That's that's so scary. Yeah, like what how do you

649
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 4: avoid that?

650
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: Is?

651
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: I guess where I'm going with that, Like how do

652
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 4: you Well.

653
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: I think it's modeled to us too by parents, like

654
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: just like a satisfaction with our bodies and like a

655
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: healthy appreciation doing the shot. Yeah, you said you've had

656
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: conversations with.

657
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd agree with that because I have seen people

658
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: close to me and how the parents talk and then

659
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: how the kids start to and so to be very

660
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 3: careful of that. So yes, i'd agree with that. And

661
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: that's what scares me about the you know, about the shot.

662
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: And I try to make sure that even if I'm

663
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 3: not very hungry, like I'm still eating in front of them,

664
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: you know, and stuff like that, even though I do

665
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: eat plenty. You know, it's not that I don't now

666
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: at all, but I don't know that just it just

667
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 3: really scares me being in you know, in cheer that

668
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: Emmy is in you know, all of that just really

669
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: scares me. And it's like, how, I mean, that is

670
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: so sad to hear from Brittany that she, I mean

671
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 3: had to rewire her brain.

672
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: I still but I feel like.

673
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 5: We all kind of in those that age and like

674
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 5: I had to rewire my brain for the looking at

675
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 5: the scale. I mean there's times when where I guy said,

676
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 5: I still I have that human health and I look

677
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 5: at it now for my body fat percentage in the

678
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 5: visceral fat, which I think girl important for overall health.

679
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 5: But there are still times when I look at the

680
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,479
Speaker 5: number and it was like, well, what's the pound heavier

681
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 5: and having to retrain. No, don't go depressed, because that's

682
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 5: right where most women will go if they don't see

683
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 5: the number they want on the scale.

684
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is this, Like there was a study that

685
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: came out though when we were younger, Like I mean,

686
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: this isn't this is before social media for sure. That

687
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: was by the time we had reached like eighteen, we

688
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: had seen over this many ads. Remember it was commercial,

689
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: so we have social media, but we had commercials.

690
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 4: It was the same thing, kind of like indoctrinating our BRAINSPI.

691
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 5: It just kind of lectures Jenny Kragish loser.

692
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: You know, true. Yeah, so we were kind of always

693
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: inundated with like magazines showed someone like calling them fat,

694
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: and you know, the blog, the vlog or the the

695
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: pres Hiltons of the world, you know what I mean

696
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: were we had shows the Biggest Loser and yeah, yeah,

697
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: people's way.

698
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 5: So it's always been there. Women in general, I feel

699
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 5: like they don't touch the body. Women's bodies now from

700
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 5: what I.

701
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely got that I've gotten better.

702
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: It's almost like it almost feels like, you know, now

703
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: it's kind of changed in a sense that they want

704
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: more shape, yeah, to bodies, you know, and stuff like that.

705
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: But then as they get older, like do they really

706
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know. It's it's it's hard to say,

707
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: but that that stuff scares me.

708
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: I will say.

709
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 5: What's sad too, is the most you know, people will

710
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 5: anytime I've ever seen anything negative about my body or

711
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 5: something is always from another woman. And that's the part

712
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 5: that always makes me sad too, because it's like, can

713
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 5: we just not comment on other people's bodies?

714
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: Ye ever? Yeah, wild other women's bodies please? Yeah? Or kids?

715
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 5: Oh well, I think there's something too. I had a

716
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 5: friend and I want to say it was like more

717
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 5: like acquaintance, but her mom was super super like working out,

718
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 5: I mean crazy amounts, right, and eating.

719
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: You can't have that.

720
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 5: You can so so strict on so many things that

721
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 5: to this day in her mid thirties, she is so paranoid,

722
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 5: so so overly where it's like I got it's like

723
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 5: I gotta work out.

724
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: I catte that where it's just like it's okay, like

725
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: you're good you you don't have to obsess. But she

726
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: took on her mom's obsession of image. And that's where

727
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, I've always seen that, and I thought to myself,

728
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: not trying to judge, but going I don't want my daughter.

729
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: I guess that's why I'm like everything in moderation, and

730
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: even though doctor Amon says, don't do everything in moderation,

731
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: but I do think as a child, I'm not I

732
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: don't want to be that parent that's like you can

733
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: never have that.

734
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: I've seen that backfire way too many times. And in

735
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: the opposite way, they get away because their parents and

736
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: they're hoarding. That's right, Andy like restrictiveness, I do not.

737
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what doctor Aymond says about that, but

738
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 3: I absolutely don't know.

739
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: No, he's not saying kids.

740
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 5: I don't know what he says about kid, but he's

741
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 5: saying when it comes to us, like don't say you

742
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 5: drink in moderation, moderation, you're give yourself excuse and that

743
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 5: she don't do that. That's not good for you. But

744
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 5: for you know, kids, it's do I let them have

745
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 5: dessert every night? No, but you know some nights yes,

746
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 5: because I don't want them to not have that. I

747
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 5: don't want them to feel that. And then also I'm

748
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 5: not getting them on treadmills like I know some kids

749
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 5: the age of Julie, they're like working them out.

750
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 2: Oh wow, it's not good for their bones. But again

751
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: I don't want to judge.

752
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 5: I just also have seen but this is where things

753
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 5: can maybe start with body image. I think it's important

754
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 5: for kids. Like we go for walks. We love family walks. Yeah,

755
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 5: it's one of our favorite times. It's getting and the kids.

756
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 5: The kids ask for it now after dinner, like can

757
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 5: we go for a family walk? I mean we just

758
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 5: did it. It was at six fifteen a night dark

759
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 5: out hold bundled up.

760
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: They're like, let's go for a walk. It's good for

761
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: our heart health.

762
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: You know.

763
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: The kid's just like, yes, let's do it. Yeah, so movement.

764
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: But I'm so glad And again, I'm also just proud

765
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: of her for speaking out, speaking out of it, because

766
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: there's so many women that obviously and men too that

767
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: have felt this rewiring your brain so important always. I

768
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: don't know if she used EMDR, but that's one of

769
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: the ways that you can rewire your brain. Krischelle Stoule

770
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: says she's officially leaving Selling Sunset after nine seasons. She

771
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 2: will not be returning. It has yet to get picked

772
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 2: up for a ten season. I'm sure it will, but yeah,

773
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: she says, she's gotten to a place where I don't

774
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 2: need the show financially. I'm lucky to have other forms

775
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: of employment because it's no longer good for my mental health.

776
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: The reunion was so brutal, and that moment I realized

777
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: I will be done here going forward, she said, before

778
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: adding I wish everyone the best, but this isn't the

779
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: place for me.

780
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 5: I felt like a little bit like it felt like

781
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 5: a little bit like a dogpile. Would you I think

782
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 5: about her fight with Emma and not liking your boyfriend.

783
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 5: They didn't watch the reunion.

784
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched all of it.

785
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've watched the reunion and I'm almost finished with

786
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 5: the show.

787
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 3: I like both of them, and it's I you know,

788
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: I hate that they're not friends anymore.

789
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 4: I think that I was telling Jana this, I'm.

790
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 5: Like, well, we should talk about this because this is

791
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 5: an interesting piece because you very much did not like

792
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 5: my access friend.

793
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: Right and well, and I'm seeing that. I was like, man,

794
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 3: I can feel Chrishelle so much in these episodes when

795
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: she was first starting, like she didn't always handle it

796
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 3: the right way, but she just did not think he

797
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: was good for her. And he also she also did

798
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: not think that Emma really liked him, you know, like

799
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 3: that she really, you know, was it just was not

800
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 3: did not seem like a healthy relationship. And I don't know,

801
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 3: they touched on it a little bit, but she just

802
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: didn't like them, and she cared for her friend. What

803
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: I saw was Chrischelle caring for her friend. I've been there.

804
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: That's how I felt for Jana. It's such a hard

805
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: place to how do you tell them, like, you know,

806
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: she didn't always handle it the right way, So I

807
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: actually kind of will defend her on that. Now, there

808
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: were times where she seemed so snotty, snow so like

809
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 3: bratty about it because he was like not good enough

810
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: for you know, or whatever. Like the way she handled

811
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 3: some things. I'm like, Okay, you could have been nicer

812
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: about that. But but then she went to social media

813
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: and she did all that, and I think that's where

814
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: the line was really drawn, probably for Emma.

815
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 5: I mean, I had said this to you, I said,

816
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 5: if you ever if we were going through something, I

817
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 5: couldn't imagine you ever going taking it to social media.

818
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 5: I understand where she was saying, we're we're a reality show,

819
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 5: but there's a difference between crossing the line of doing

820
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 5: different putting.

821
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: I just could never you were my best friend.

822
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 5: I could never imagine you saying something like that over

823
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 5: social media.

824
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah well.

825
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 5: No, maybe just save save it for the season, right,

826
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 5: you know, But it's you know, I think that's two

827
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 5: people hurt, Yeah, both of them. But why are you

828
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 5: bringing it to social media? Like that's not a good friend?

829
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: No, you know what I'm saying. The intention got odd there.

830
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 3: I will say, I think we missed a lot this season,

831
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: and I don't know if y'all have looked at some

832
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: things on social media about this. I think a lot

833
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 3: of things were cut out that Jason had some you know,

834
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: power over getting some things cut out. If you really go,

835
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 3: you haven't watched the whole see if you really go,

836
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: there's a lot of blow ups that seem to kind

837
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: of not make sense. There's been some been some things

838
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 3: that have been edited and that have been taken out

839
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 3: of it that it's kind of out of order in

840
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: some things.

841
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things that are.

842
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: Really weird about this season, not necessarily with Krishelle and Emma,

843
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: but with Chelsea and Brie by Mary. Chelsea and Mary,

844
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: there's something there that was cut out. They had a

845
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: huge blow up.

846
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: Sondra kind of alluded to this yes in the interview

847
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 2: with her. She kind of just chatted like, you didn't

848
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: see that, you didn't see that.

849
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 3: There's a lot I think that was cut out this Jason.

850
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 3: That just leaves a lot of questions and what really

851
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 3: happened and why is everyone so angry and why you know,

852
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 3: what is this blow up truly about? Because it seems

853
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: so small on the show, So there was just a

854
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: lot to it this season.

855
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 5: Well, that's why I can never do a reality show

856
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 5: because the mental health aspect. So props to Koshelle for

857
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 5: just doing what's best for her.

858
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, and it is so sad. I hate it

859
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 4: for Emma.

860
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. It's I understand. I mean, I

861
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: had one friend who very much, you know, we stopped

862
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: being friends because she did not like the person that

863
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: I was with many years ago. And that always hurt

864
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: me because I'm like, man, if you were my friend,

865
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have treated me like that. And I always

866
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: think about you. You were this tough love as tough love

867
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: can get, and you started to create boundaries where you

868
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: wouldn't work on things with us, but you would never

869
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 2: would have stopped being my friend.

870
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 4: No, that never ever crossed my mind. Ever.

871
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: Now you do get, and I do.

872
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 3: You can see Chrischelle get to that point a little

873
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: bit where she's like, Okay, I've got to have some

874
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: boundaries here, and she.

875
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 2: Told us about that. That's so good and that's.

876
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: Healthy, and that's where you just have to be honest

877
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: and just say all right, here's my boundary and I'm

878
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: here for you.

879
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and there's a way to do it

880
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 2: kind of sounded like she did say that, but maybe

881
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 2: something else was.

882
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: Well, then she was social media, so maybe she had

883
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: all the best intentions, but then she ruined it in

884
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: that single moment by going to social media.

885
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: And perhaps this her signing off is because she realized

886
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 2: she didn't like the person she was becoming.

887
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe and that I hope so too, because

888
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: that happens to the best of us. Chod, Like, if

889
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: you watch these episodes, I firmly believe she cares about

890
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: Emma like so, so, so so much and it was

891
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 3: just hard for her to sit back and watch it

892
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 3: and see her.

893
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: Go through that so well.

894
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 5: I I mean again, I love her, so it's it'll

895
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 5: be a different show without her.

896
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: So it wind of that makes me moving out want

897
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 2: to watch.

898
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: Well, I'm afraid we could end up we that they

899
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: could end up losing other people for the show too. Yeah,

900
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 3: I would be interested to see what happens.

901
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: Or they'll cast somebody to take over that role.

902
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we'll see.

903
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 5: Hey, ladies, I'm thirty one years old and my husband

904
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 5: twenty nine and I have been together for six years,

905
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 5: married for almost one year. We have two kids, a

906
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 5: toddler and a four month old are sex life is

907
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 5: pretty much non existent. I'd say we probably have sex

908
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 5: about once every six months or so. Between being busy

909
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 5: with young kids and working full time, I'm just never

910
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 5: in the mood. But this isn't the only reason. My

911
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 5: husband often expresses frustration at the fact that I never

912
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 5: want to be intimate. He thinks sex is the only

913
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 5: form of intimacy, and recently I've tried to explain my reasoning.

914
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 5: Aside from my exhaustion, I explained to him that I'm

915
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 5: not like him in that I can't just be in

916
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 5: the mood to have sex whenever at any given moment.

917
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 5: I need to feel aroused and have that connection with

918
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 5: someone who makes me feel special. We never go on dates.

919
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 5: He doesn't do anything to make me feel special, and

920
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 5: he doesn't do anything to make me want to have

921
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 5: sex or get in the mood to have sex. His

922
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 5: response was, I understand, but I don't think I should

923
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 5: always have to earn sex. This response just angered me

924
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 5: because I'm like, well, okay, I don't feel like I

925
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 5: should have to have sex with you when I don't

926
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 5: feel like it because you want to. That comment was

927
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 5: kind of disgusting to me and made me feel like

928
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 5: an object. I don't feel like it's crazy or unreasonable

929
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 5: to want to have a connection with your partner in

930
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 5: order to have sex.

931
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: Am I wrong?

932
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 5: He also asked me for a blowjob every single day,

933
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 5: usually in exchange for something like doing all the night

934
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 5: feeds with our baby. I almost always say no, because again,

935
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 5: I'm not in the mood to give a blowjob every day,

936
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 5: and him straight up asking me for it on the

937
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 5: daily annoys me and makes me want to do it

938
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 5: even less. There once was a time when things were

939
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 5: new and exciting and I couldn't wait to rip our

940
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 5: clothes off. I miss feeling that way with somebody, where

941
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 5: you can't keep your hands off of each other. If

942
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 5: it's passionate and the mood to have sex is more frequent,

943
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 5: is it just married life with kids? Or has our

944
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 5: emotional and sexual connection died? Oh, this sweet listener, I know.

945
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: Well, first and foremost. I love the fact that she

946
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: said something to him, Yeah, And I don't love his response.

947
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: I don't either. It seems really emotionally unintelligent to me,

948
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: so I'm struggling. Also, asking for a blowjob made me

949
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: like I'm instantly turned off. I found our heart be

950
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: so annoyed, like are you kid as a reward I

951
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: did the dishes or I did the night fee.

952
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I could understand to an extent,

953
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: maybe him being like.

954
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 4: Hey, I'll take this feed like, I get it.

955
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: You got like, dude, that's not.

956
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 4: The way to do it. It's less.

957
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: I think you can relate in the aspect. Yeah. So

958
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: when it's something where when they're asking that makes you

959
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 2: not want.

960
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: To absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I mean I can relate to

961
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: that big time. I mean I get it, and it's like,

962
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: but I see both sides to it. You know, it's

963
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: like they don't want to feel like they've earned it.

964
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 3: But then you're over here going yeah, but you don't

965
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: do X, Y and Z and you stop asking, like

966
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 3: I don't know why the asking gets so annoying.

967
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: Well, it's also just not hot to me.

968
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not.

969
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to say something probably really unpopular. Listeners going

970
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 2: to hate this, y'all are probably going to hate this too,

971
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: But here I go, Oh, I like it already. I

972
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: like the YEP. I don't like anything that your husband

973
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 2: has said or is doing. I'm just gonna like straight

974
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: up say that don't like that, but tonight, just do

975
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: it like before he says it. I know you're tired, yeah,

976
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: trust me, I get it. We all get it. Exhausted,

977
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: don't want to, but there is going to be I

978
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: hope that by you taking that initiative without him asking,

979
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 2: because just just do it before you can ask. Second,

980
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: you put that baby down. Just muster up, take a shot,

981
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, like muster out any sort of because

982
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: he is your husband and you love him, right, you're not.

983
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: You're not leaving this to like you love him, do

984
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: do something that also gets him excited that with it

985
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: so that he doesn't have to ask, and this might

986
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: re itgne reignite the spark that and does something for

987
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: him too, and then maybe he'll ask you less. But

988
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: just try it and and say maybe the next day

989
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: be like, listen, I would probably do that more if

990
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: you asked less. And also next time, you know, I

991
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 2: want to be dated first, so like kiss me first,

992
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: and like those are the things. If you want more

993
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: of this, I need more of this and hopefully he

994
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 2: can give you a better a better response. But listen,

995
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 2: if you have to make yourself aroused during this time,

996
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: do the soft kisses like be the little vixen that's right,

997
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: and get yourself aroused and use him like a frickin toy.

998
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: It's called Samantha Jones mode. Just do it and just

999
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 2: see the difference in it, and then and then try

1000
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 2: to communicate the next day or something. But maybe there'll

1001
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: be a different version. It'll help reignite. I don't know.

1002
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: I also just want to say you are not wrong

1003
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: when you said am I wrong? Not wrong? You are

1004
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: not wrong. This is obnoxious, immature boy behavior. We are

1005
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: not in college. He's a father and a husband, and

1006
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: also have sex with your husband. It's going to just

1007
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: be better, like we run. That is one of the

1008
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 2: things I wish I would have changed early on in

1009
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: our marriage was like, now we have sex so often

1010
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 2: it's just so great and there's no like it's almost

1011
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: chicken her egg, and you get like, well if you

1012
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: did this and I do that, and you do this,

1013
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: like to your point, just remember like we get so

1014
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: room mate, and I hate that feeling as couples. I'm

1015
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: not saying like us at our house, but we have

1016
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: done that too where we've gotten roommate modem and we

1017
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: need to make out and remember that we're boyfriend, girlfriend,

1018
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 2: and that there is you know, like plan the date

1019
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: and and sometimes I have to plan the day.

1020
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and sometimes the man wants to feel wanted, wanted

1021
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 5: and sexy. It is like the difference between men and

1022
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 5: their head will spin in the best way and you

1023
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 5: might see a different version and you actually will feel sexy,

1024
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 5: like I feel sexy, like I miss feeling sexy, and

1025
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 5: he thinks you're sexy.

1026
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 3: So do yeah now, And just to remember, the further

1027
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 3: you get away from it, the easier it is to

1028
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 3: not do it.

1029
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: And that's it gets.

1030
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 3: It kind of gets away from you, especially as a

1031
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 3: woman who doesn't you know, need it, don't necessarily need it,

1032
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 3: you don't have that much. Like the further you get

1033
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 3: away from it, the easier it is to stay in

1034
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: that place.

1035
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 4: And that's what I learned.

1036
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: So you just kind of, like like Jana said, just

1037
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 3: do it because it'll just get further and further away.

1038
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: And give yourself grace. You have little kids, yeah, like

1039
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: you have tiny kids. Have a fun night. Follow up

1040
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: with us