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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where no one's hit us in

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Speaker 1: the head with a YETI can today or whatever. I'm

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. The omens are better. We're in Radio Row.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by Nick Schook and Jordan rod Ree gets

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Speaker 1: the preview show.

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Speaker 2: We're here, We're here.

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Speaker 3: We've been here.

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Speaker 1: We've been out and about in the San Francisco streets

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Speaker 3: A little bit of a dive bar, yeah right afterwards.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little like a place that somehow knew of

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Speaker 1: Adam Rank and had like fed him free food. I

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know why I'm made in the

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Speaker 1: show with this, but I was impressed. It's a big show.

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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen is on the show. It is our preview show,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna structure it a little differently. We had

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Speaker 1: the chance to talk to one of the finalists for

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Speaker 1: the NFL Coach of the Year. We're taking this Thursday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It'll go up probably a little before honors happened, so

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Speaker 1: you'll probably know the result by the time you hear this.

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Speaker 1: But one of the best coaches in the league. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna put that center stage, and then we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to our preview and a couple interviews, including Garrett

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Speaker 4: A very honest Garrett Bowles, who's brought the.

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Speaker 1: Heat, has not gotten over the Patriots' victory and doesn't

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Speaker 3: Oh appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: And then we're also gonna have Chris mad Dog Russo

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Speaker 3: I'm already ready to get to the game.

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Speaker 4: Get it, let's go, it's time.

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Speaker 3: Let's get to the interview.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna hear Jordan and I talking to Liam Cohen,

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Speaker 1: and then after that we'll take a break and we'll

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Speaker 1: come back with our big preview. But this was a

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Speaker 1: really fun conversation with Liam Cohen after his first year

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Speaker 1: as Jaguars head coach.

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Speaker 3: Welcoming in Liam Cohen, the Jacksonville Jaguars head coach and

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Speaker 3: most importantly friend of the show, and by that I

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Speaker 3: mean friend of Jordan Rodrick.

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Speaker 5: I mean I'm stoked. I think we're all stoked this.

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Speaker 6: It feels like what a joy ride you guys went

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Speaker 6: on ever since you got that job. Liam, and then

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Speaker 6: started building with James and Tony and the organization. And

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Speaker 6: I guess looking back at it the first week's, the

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Speaker 6: first month, what were a couple of pivotal moments for

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Speaker 6: you that you look back at now and think, I

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Speaker 6: can't believe I was there at one point to where

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Speaker 6: we are now.

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Speaker 7: First of all, thank you guys so much for having

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Speaker 7: me on.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's been so cool to see your journey,

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Speaker 8: especially specifically, and just to see how much.

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Speaker 7: You've come and grown.

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Speaker 8: And you asked always the best questions when I was

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Speaker 8: in LA hands down, how much? But seriously, you've done

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Speaker 8: a phonology. I'll make this stuff really fun, and so

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Speaker 8: I appreciate that. And look, there's been there was multiple

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Speaker 8: times where you kind of have to vent yourself a

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Speaker 8: little bit to realize, all right, man, I have to

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Speaker 8: go make maybe this decision. But when you're with a

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Speaker 8: leadership group like Tony and James, you're able to go

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Speaker 8: make decisions collaboratively and know that, man, this isn't the

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Speaker 8: best interest of the Jacksonville Jaguars. And so man, we

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Speaker 8: looked at the buy where we really came off with

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Speaker 8: two struggle games, got our butts beat by the Seahawks,

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Speaker 8: so that was a tough one and we really had

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Speaker 8: to evaluate look at ourselves both, you know, really in

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Speaker 8: all three phases, made some tweaks, credit to staff to

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Speaker 8: really when we lost to Houston and blew a twenty

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Speaker 8: have some real open, honest, real conversations with both coaches, staff, players,

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Speaker 8: use some of that knowledge that we gained after some

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Speaker 1: So when those results start coming and yeah, I remember

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Speaker 1: that Texans game, so well, yeah, the big Davis Mills moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she gives she gives me grief for loving me some.

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Speaker 4: David, I've been high on the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, so we were.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to give you our story because that's what's

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Speaker 1: really important, you know. Early we did a whole episode

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Speaker 1: Jordan and I on the Jaguars kind of like we're

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Speaker 1: put planting our flag. This is our messy, fun team

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Speaker 1: It's all not perfect, it's a little messy. There's some

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Speaker 1: you guys are putting up big points. You're winning games

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Speaker 1: in different sorts of ways. It's the reason why you're

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Speaker 1: up for Coach of the Year at Honors and in

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is getting recognized and everything. During that stretch

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Speaker 1: where where you do start winning games in different type

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Speaker 1: best teams in the league, what were some like moments

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So that's a great question, right, I'll I go

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Speaker 8: back to that Houston game so many times, because look,

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Speaker 8: an opportunity to kind of put a division opponent almost

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Speaker 8: it would have obviously structured the league the standings a

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Speaker 8: and it was it was a quiet locker room, guys.

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Speaker 8: I mean it was dead quiet after that game and

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Speaker 8: it was cleaner, Like you said, the discipline, the detail,

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Speaker 8: it and said, Okay, we've now changed. We've elevated the standard.

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Speaker 8: This is a new standard of how we are supposed

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Speaker 8: to play every week, whether we get the result or not,

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Speaker 8: whether we win or lose the game, but this has

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Speaker 8: got to be our new standard of play every week

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Speaker 8: in terms of the detail and practice, the way that

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Speaker 7: We can live with those results, you guys.

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Speaker 6: You know, obviously health was part of a factor here

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Speaker 6: But after the trade deadline, what I thought was so

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Speaker 6: cool was how you started putting different layers to your

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Speaker 6: you had the personnel also at that point to do it,

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Speaker 4: Can you explain to us just like what it was.

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Speaker 6: Like putting together those layers, particularly in your passing game.

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Speaker 6: I always it's gross description, but I always described it

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Speaker 6: as like you build. You built the spine first because

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Speaker 6: you clear out that middle of the field and you

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Speaker 6: love the middle of the field, and then you build

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Speaker 6: all the ribs around it, all the different concepts, and

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Speaker 8: Year, I thought I completely agree with you. Specifically is

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Speaker 8: early on in the season, we were kind of off

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Speaker 8: based on some of the success you had, Right you're

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Speaker 8: running the football, you're trying to control the clock with

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Speaker 8: a good defense, screens, high percentage throws, getting trying to

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Speaker 8: get the ball in your playmaker's hands. Right, Well, we

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Speaker 8: weren't stretching the field vertically, we weren't making the defense

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Speaker 8: that's when we had some of those layered conversations about, man,

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Speaker 8: we need to go back to the foundation of our

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Speaker 8: day one install Like day one install pass caame what

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Speaker 8: does Trevor and these guys do best? Day two vat

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Speaker 8: install pass game, what do these guys do best? Because

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Speaker 8: the meat and potatoes of your offense is really in

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Speaker 8: the first three installs of training camp OTAs whatever it is,

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Speaker 8: really went back to that foundation, those three installs and said,

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Speaker 7: And where do they have the most success.

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Speaker 8: And that's where you saw Jakobe really come alive in

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Speaker 7: So it all did.

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Speaker 8: Come to life, but it was a learning experience that, man,

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Speaker 8: be you have to truly figure out what's best for

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Speaker 6: Well, it was fun for us because we were on

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Speaker 6: of the because at first you had certain guys running

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Speaker 6: then and then you switched it when Jacobe came over,

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Speaker 6: and then you let guys maximize, like as you know

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Speaker 6: less you know, I was just saying, I know, James.

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Speaker 5: Says it too.

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Speaker 6: It's like the superpowers, like finding guys superpowers. But you

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Speaker 6: did it like yeah while continuing to win, right, yeah,

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Speaker 6: which is I know, you know, because you've been through

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Speaker 6: a lot in this league, Like you you know how

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Speaker 8: We're getting the turnovers obviously defensively was so helpful. You

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Speaker 8: and ball disruption to second, right, Campy, those guys did

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Speaker 8: when you got more at bats, it.

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Speaker 7: Definitely helps your ability to be more creative.

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Speaker 8: Right when you know you're gonna get extra possessions, you

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Speaker 8: know you got more at bats. Well, man, let's let's

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Speaker 8: try to tweak with that one, right, Let's just run

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Speaker 8: the same concepts a little bit differently, dress them up.

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Speaker 8: I thought grand Inski, Shane Waldron, those guys, John Van

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Speaker 8: dam Our offensive coaches did a phenomenal job building a

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Speaker 8: pass game that marries our run game each week, and

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Speaker 8: we became a better, you know, depth of target team

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Speaker 8: right where we were actually pushing the ball down the

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Speaker 8: field more. Trevor's comfortable doing those things, so it definitely

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Speaker 8: clicked at the right time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Parker Washington, I feel like was like the unofficial

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Speaker 3: We just watched, love watching that.

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Speaker 1: The you talked about, you know, your play calling and

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Speaker 1: described sort of. I guess it's a two part thing,

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Speaker 3: That's right here.

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Speaker 8: I'm not giving our quarterback the best chance to be successful.

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Speaker 7: Jump the ball.

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Speaker 6: One thing that I think we both noticed and we

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Speaker 7: Then you know, maybe like who is this psychopath? At first?

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Speaker 7: Our fans are amazing.

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Speaker 7: Piece of paper.

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Speaker 8: Like if if you are just I'm here, you're here,

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Speaker 7: This, well, like, I don't know that that takes.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars fans one of the most underrated fan bases in

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Speaker 1: It's just one of those I've been writing and talking

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Speaker 7: We've see plenty of times after that.

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Speaker 7: How you feeling about that? No, it'll be great.

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Speaker 9: You're like, that's right.

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Speaker 9: It is.

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Speaker 8: It's so good for our division. I know what kind

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Speaker 6: And that well, what we're talking about you coming out

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Speaker 6: You're like, I'm not going to take where the Jaguars,

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Speaker 4: That stick out to you there?

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Speaker 8: in which we really appreciate. But we can get better.

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Speaker 8: We need to get better. And it's those details that

444
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Speaker 8: you mentioned earlier. It's that sloppiness. And I thought we

445
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Speaker 8: did a great job in the second half of the season,

446
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Speaker 8: cleaning that football up. Well, now we got both our coordinators,

447
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Speaker 8: all three of our coordinators coming back, so.

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Speaker 3: Nice little feather in your cap. That's great. Yeah, it

449
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Speaker 3: didn't go huge.

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Speaker 6: I mean I would love to know a little more

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Speaker 6: about the recruiting, the self recruiting and saying like, hey,

452
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Speaker 6: please you know, because I know you guys have built

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Speaker 6: a lot of camaraderie over the last year.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it was hard.

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Speaker 8: I mean you're going through you hire a couple of young,

456
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Speaker 8: first time coaches, to give opportunity to that you really

457
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Speaker 8: believe in and trust, and then to see them get

458
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Speaker 8: some early exposure into the head coaching lenses.

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Speaker 7: It's something that you feel.

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Speaker 8: So you know, there's pride, there's excitement, there's frustration, there's

461
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Speaker 8: you know, anxiety, but really proud and glad that those

462
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Speaker 8: guys ended up being able to come back. And Heath Farwell,

463
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Speaker 8: our special teams coordinator, is one of the best in

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Speaker 8: the NFL, hands down. And to have that continuity and

465
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Speaker 8: now be able to go into a real off season,

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Speaker 8: right this is Trevor Lawrence. Is one of his first

467
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Speaker 8: off seasons without dealing with an injury. So what does

468
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Speaker 8: that look like like? We need to get better at

469
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Speaker 8: this spring and have every opportunity to do so. And

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Speaker 8: so that's the that's the goal is, man, how do

471
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Speaker 8: we build off of it? What the results are, I

472
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Speaker 8: can't tell you. But this process in which we go

473
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Speaker 8: about it the off season OTAs phase one being with

474
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Speaker 8: our feet are and winning each phase, I think we

475
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Speaker 8: can continue to get better.

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Speaker 1: I'll get some tips from you too, because I'm gonna

477
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Speaker 1: have to do some self recruiting when they start coming

478
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Speaker 1: after Jordan's own show under that and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Like, I'm.

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Speaker 4: The entire way.

481
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Speaker 5: Strategy in the system a.

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Speaker 7: Couple more years and when you got something that works,

483
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Speaker 7: don't don't fix it.

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Speaker 3: But before we let you go, we're wrapping up here.

485
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Speaker 1: But I'm I'm currently buying up all the Travis Hunter

486
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Speaker 1: stock that if anyone is selling, because I felt how

487
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Speaker 1: your front office felt. I'm sure how you felt too

488
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Speaker 1: before the draft, right that there's only so many players,

489
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Speaker 1: not just the both sides of the ball thing.

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Speaker 3: More of that the game seems so slow to him.

491
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Speaker 1: We had a guy on the show yesterday justin Jefferson,

492
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Speaker 1: where I know they're very different in many ways, in

493
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Speaker 1: the ways that they just moved differently there's only a

494
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Speaker 1: few types of guys that moved differently he made. He

495
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Speaker 1: made me feel something that I think you made your

496
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Speaker 1: front office feel too, And I still believe in all

497
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Speaker 1: of that. So I guess I haven't seen him on

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Speaker 1: the field in the practice field every day, Like what

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Speaker 1: did you see out of him and how he was

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Speaker 1: moving it, especially on defense.

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Speaker 8: But either way you hit the nail on the head.

502
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Speaker 8: Is like when you just say, without a lot of coaching,

503
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Speaker 8: you just say, like go play and just go watch.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's different, for sure.

505
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Speaker 8: It is like the way he moves, the way he anticipates,

506
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Speaker 8: the way that he feels coverage on offense where he

507
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Speaker 8: just kind of like feels zones and has a He's

508
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Speaker 8: a football player, he is, and it was so unfortunate

509
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Speaker 8: to get hurt like that on a bye week practice

510
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Speaker 8: that he had just come off of having a hundred

511
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Speaker 8: yard game, and man, that made us obviously have to

512
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Speaker 8: pivot in some ways and it was super frustrating. But

513
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Speaker 8: he is the type of human being, the type of

514
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Speaker 8: dude that will get better from this. A minor setback

515
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Speaker 8: for a major comeback. He will come back from this.

516
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Speaker 8: He will be great, one step at a time, one

517
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Speaker 8: day at a time, and what that looks.

518
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Speaker 9: Like moving forward.

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Speaker 7: I'm shoot, I can't tell you.

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Speaker 8: We were evolving as we went right time at practice

521
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Speaker 8: on offense defense this like we were pretty fluid with it,

522
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Speaker 8: and so it'll give us a great opportunity to evaluate

523
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Speaker 8: it again this spring, and I do expect him to

524
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Speaker 8: return to form them.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's it for Liam Cohane, because I

526
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Speaker 1: got to give you guys time to just talk off

527
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Speaker 1: camera before we started. Like, there's a lot of good

528
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Speaker 1: stuff going on here, and I can see our producer

529
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Speaker 1: Eric Roberts not saying get this stuff on the show

530
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Speaker 1: because I know that everything is not for air. More like,

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Speaker 1: let's get the show going so we can have more

532
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Speaker 1: time with Liam cohen. But you're very generous with you

533
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Speaker 1: and we'll have to talk about you mass the show too.

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Speaker 5: I don't really need to be there for that, zoo.

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Speaker 8: That's why I first coordinator job. Yeah, yeah, orn O Maine.

536
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Speaker 8: I was my first time can Plays was up there.

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Speaker 8: So thank you guys so much for having me on.

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Speaker 3: Good luck with the Coach of the Year and everything,

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Speaker 3: and good luck for the twenty twenty six season.

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Speaker 9: Thanks appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Back on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: We got a mon Ross Saint Brown walking by, we

543
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Speaker 1: got Brian Urlocker walking by, we got Bo Jackson walking by.

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Speaker 3: All the luminaries, who has made you the most excited

545
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Speaker 3: you've seen?

546
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Speaker 2: I saw Matt Castle with it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, do better. He's just one of

548
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Speaker 3: our podcasts co hosts college. I mean, it's great.

549
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Speaker 4: Bo Wolf of PHL.

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Speaker 2: Greg is disappointed.

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Speaker 6: I'm making up for no, It's It's cool. It's like

552
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Speaker 6: such a scene here. It's a great environment. Like what

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Speaker 6: I like is you see people who you haven't seen

554
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Speaker 6: in a while, You catch up with friends. You do

555
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Speaker 6: that like drive by catch up.

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Speaker 4: Kind of thing where you're like, great to see you.

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Speaker 4: I'm running late. I'm grabbing Greg's and then rushing to

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Speaker 4: the set stuff.

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Speaker 3: And then I kind of.

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Speaker 1: Hate that because you see you see people that you

561
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Speaker 1: haven't seen in five years. Like I just thought Ed

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Speaker 1: Lewis will be, yeah, delighted to know that he's mentioned

563
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Speaker 1: in the show, But I'll never find out who we

564
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Speaker 1: used to work with in the news room.

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Speaker 3: But I haven't seen him like seven years. But we're

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Speaker 3: running to a hit.

567
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Speaker 1: For another show, and and I'm like, oh, I gotta

568
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Speaker 1: I gotta go, like immediately, and it seems like you're

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Speaker 1: big timing them, like it's just like we're all.

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Speaker 3: In a hurry.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't like that feeling where I'm like, yes.

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Speaker 3: Gotta go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, it's a Jhi.

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Speaker 3: Hello, I'm in a hurry. I'm running late.

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Speaker 2: But I did see somebody that I haven't seen since

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Speaker 2: college who is a producer for.

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Speaker 1: Esp Let's go all right, So, speaking of in a hurry,

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Speaker 1: I just, you know, wasted three minutes blabbing when we're

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Speaker 1: putting a clock on our Super Bowl preview.

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Speaker 3: Here's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna put thirteen minutes on the clock to talk

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Speaker 1: about the Patriots when they have the ball, Patriots offense

583
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Speaker 1: versus Seahawks defense. We're gonna we're gonna put limitations on us,

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Speaker 1: like Kyle Shanahan put limitations on Mac Jones, the bumpers.

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Speaker 1: He Mac Jones would rather be bumper bowling a little bit,

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Speaker 1: I feel like because it helped free up his mind

587
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Speaker 1: to play looser.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna do that. We're not gonna give us

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Speaker 3: a chance.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna keep us moving and then we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: thirteen minutes about the Seahawks offense against the Patriots defense,

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna throw to a couple of great

593
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Speaker 1: interviews with Garrett Bowles and and Chris mad Dog Russo

594
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Speaker 1: talking about the game and get out of here. So

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Speaker 1: let's let's start with let's actually start with the Seahawks offense.

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Speaker 1: Start the clock, it's happening, And I'll start with you shook,

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Speaker 1: like the number one thing you're looking for from the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks offense, to know that they're that they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: in good hands and put their team in position to.

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Speaker 3: Win this game.

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's gonna sound yeah, that was great the

602
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Speaker 10: way fantastic. It makes you feel like I'm back at practice.

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Speaker 10: It's gonna sound cliche, but it's gonna start on the

604
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Speaker 10: ground game because that's been the basis of their offense,

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Speaker 10: especially late this season. Now, of course, Sam threw for

606
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Speaker 10: a ton of yards in the NFC Championship game, but

607
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Speaker 10: prior to that, the story was Keneth Walker. The story

608
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Speaker 10: was their backfield. We know they lost Zach Sharboney, but

609
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Speaker 10: it was their ability to control the game on the ground.

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Speaker 10: Because if they can do that against this Patriots defense.

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Speaker 10: Then they can work out of their run action. Mike

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Speaker 10: Rabel talked about it at length yesterday, how good Clint

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Speaker 10: Kubiak is a building out of.

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Speaker 2: The run action.

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Speaker 10: If they can do that, they can dominate possession, they

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Speaker 10: can put points on the board, and they can really

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Speaker 10: flip the game in their favor.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, Sam Darnold is like the fourth best play action

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Speaker 6: passer an explosive pass rate off of play action in

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Speaker 6: the NFL, and has been all season, even when the

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Speaker 6: offense dipped or got less explosive, he stayed pretty consistent

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Speaker 6: there and it does predicate off of how well they

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Speaker 6: can run the ball. And what I really like about

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Speaker 6: this matchup isn't.

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Speaker 4: Just you know, the good on good of it or

627
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Speaker 4: the front on front of it.

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Speaker 6: It's the little nuances within even that, which is the

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Speaker 6: Pats our strongest in the against the run on the interior, Well,

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Speaker 6: Ken Walker is such a creative runner.

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Speaker 4: The way that he can see the perimeter so well.

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Speaker 6: We saw it, you know, two weeks ago in the

633
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Speaker 6: in the NFC Championship game, where he would be so

634
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Speaker 6: patient and he would see exactly where to kick. I

635
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Speaker 6: would always say, it's to keep away from Huna Ford

636
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Speaker 6: plan kind of thing. It's the same thing keep away

637
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Speaker 6: from Milton Williams plan. That kind of a situation where

638
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 6: Ken Walker can can really see it so well and

639
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 6: they are just as comfortable running variations of wide and

640
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Speaker 6: middle zone as they are.

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Speaker 4: You know, if he sees something right up the middle,

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Speaker 4: then he can take a couple of guys down with them.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna miss sharbon Ala a little more,

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Speaker 1: especially in this game. They didn't really run it that

645
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Speaker 1: well against the Rams. They're one of the worst teams

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Speaker 1: in the NFL statistically in third and long. Yeah, Like

647
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Speaker 1: they are a team that needs to stay on schedule,

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Speaker 1: and they generally do that with their passing game.

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Speaker 3: I mean they throw plenty on first down.

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Speaker 1: You talked about the play action, and I think they'll

651
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Speaker 1: be aggressive, but Walker and Darnold are kind of symbolic

652
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Speaker 1: of this offense.

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Speaker 3: Which is a little boom or bust.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know, the running game has been great.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's you know, that's a matchup, and there aren't

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Speaker 1: a ton in this game where I think if you

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Speaker 1: go by what they do in an average week, the

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Speaker 1: Patriots actually have to have to feel good because they

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Speaker 1: love their edge guys in terms of stopping the run too,

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Speaker 1: like Anthrety Jennings, And it's probably the number one takeaway

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Speaker 1: I had going back. I went through all the coaches

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Speaker 1: film with these these guys in the playoffs, and it

664
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Speaker 1: was it was all the other guys for the Patriots

665
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: that stood out to me, Afrety Jennings and Dirden and

666
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: Elijah Ponder actually rushed in the passer a little bit.

667
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: And it's just like team defense running the ball. And

668
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Speaker 1: then if you get Darnold into you know, tough down

669
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: distant situations, I think we'll know early.

670
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: I think we'll know in the first driver too.

671
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: If he's moving through his reads quick, if he's getting

672
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: to like the backside of his reads like so fast

673
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: like he was in the NFC Championship, Patriots are gonna

674
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Speaker 1: be in trouble.

675
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: But like I think we're gonna find out pretty fast.

676
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 10: And that's why I point to the run game because

677
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 10: how much of the game and the pressure do you

678
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 10: want to put on Sam Darnald's shoulders. You don't want

679
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Speaker 10: to be a pass first, primary passing offense in the

680
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Speaker 10: first quarter, like ideally, you don't want to have to

681
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Speaker 10: put everything on Sam's arm in the first quarter, because

682
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 10: that means that you've realized, oh God, maybe we can't

683
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 10: run the football, or maybe we're going to reverse it

684
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 10: and we're going to try to run it later. But

685
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Speaker 10: it's not a situation in which I want to have

686
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Speaker 10: him throw thirty five times, even though he did well

687
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 10: against the Rams.

688
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: If I want to limit the possibility for mistakes.

689
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Speaker 6: In Jurney, I kind of I might push back on

690
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 6: you like a little bit there, Shook, because I don't

691
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 6: think they want to be everything on Sam's arm team.

692
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 4: I certainly agree with you there.

693
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Speaker 6: I do think they want to pass early and explore

694
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Speaker 6: and create explosives early against this Patriots defense because then

695
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 6: they can put their own defense in their own A

696
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 6: plus A plus plan, and that's kind of been their formula.

697
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 6: I think you could really like set your watches and

698
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 6: clocks on the amount of deeper strikes or explosive plays

699
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 6: they try.

700
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Speaker 4: To manufacture or create early as early as.

701
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 6: They possibly can in this game, because even going ahead

702
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 6: three points, that's enough for Mike McDonald to stay in

703
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 6: his A plus defensive plan. I know we're not talking

704
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 6: about the defense yet, not for eleven more minutes, but

705
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 6: I'm just saying that's why I think you might see them. Yes,

706
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 6: they want to run the ball throughout the game, obviously,

707
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 6: and they did. I think that's a credit to them

708
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 6: that they did again against the Rams, where some of

709
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 6: those perimeters runs were working, but Ken Walker only averaged

710
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 6: three point three yards per carry and the success rate

711
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 6: was very low in that game. And so you know,

712
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 6: but they kept chopping at it, and they kept chopping

713
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 6: at it because they have to keep selling that play action.

714
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 6: I don't think that predit cads are like prevents them

715
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 6: from actually taking those shots early, especially trying to design

716
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 6: up some things to try to stay in that eight

717
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 6: plus plan.

718
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots just have to be worried about

719
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: them out athleting, like the Seahawks out athleting the Patriots.

720
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: It's if we put so much on x's and o's,

721
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: but it's like whose players are better. The Seahawks players

722
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: are better overall. The Patriots have a lot of talent

723
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: on the defensive side, but JSN and Walker, like, I

724
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: think a J Barner is a really important part of

725
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: their offense. Like, can the Patriots continue to be one of,

726
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: if not the best tackling teams in the league, like

727
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: prevent yards after catch, prevent the Rashid Jaheed big play,

728
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: and just like they make them really work for it,

729
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: because it does feel a little old schoolish Patriots of

730
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: like the sound fundamental, sometimes a little boring, although they've

731
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: been blitzing a lot type of defense, and just like,

732
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: are you gonna get a situation where it's one on

733
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: one against Splaine or as much as I love him,

734
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: Christian Els, you know, like Jack Gibbons like it, Carlton

735
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: Davis is not as fast as what what he once was.

736
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: Like I don't think I've heard the words Jalen Hawkins

737
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: or Craig Woodson yet, but he's there. They're there starting

738
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: safeties and they were put conflict and conflict at different

739
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: times of the season. So can you just like out

740
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: athlete this Patriots too. I think that's possible and that

741
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: that would be trouble for it.

742
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 10: And that's why I think that that stopping the run

743
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 10: still matters because it at least takes away or reduces

744
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 10: one of those elements. Because even in the passing game,

745
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 10: it's not it doesn't just have to be deep shots.

746
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 10: You have to be worried about that with guys like

747
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 10: you heat on the field in JSN as we know

748
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 10: what he's done. But you also have to consider how

749
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 10: well they use Kenneth Walker in the passing game. But

750
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 10: if you can reduce them down to throwing, then it

751
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 10: makes it just a little bit easier and also increases

752
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 10: the chances, maybe only slightly, like Calevon Chason gets home

753
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 10: forces a fumble, because if they're going to get out athleted,

754
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 10: then they need a couple of things to go their

755
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 10: way to level the playing field.

756
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: And you do that by getting after Sam Darnald.

757
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 6: Yeah. But and on the Seahawks side, though, I think

758
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 6: they can create these disadvantageous matchups against those players that

759
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 6: you that you just pointed to Greg, because we saw it,

760
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 6: We saw it start happening where you know, they weren't

761
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 6: necessarily sure. I think they would say now that they

762
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 6: were sure that Sam Darnald was gonna play, well, of

763
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 6: course they have it. Yeah, but in the moment you

764
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 6: saw klink, Kubik brought more scheme like he's he's sing

765
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 6: JSN up in the backfield to try to get him

766
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 6: in advantageous matchups against.

767
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 4: Players who are maybe weak spots.

768
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 6: He's doing the same thing with Kenneth Walker, who is

769
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 6: such a threat to your point nick in the passing

770
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 6: game as well, especially if they're looking at this as

771
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 6: a game where if your linebackers and safeties are potentially

772
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 6: weaker spots on the field as well as you are

773
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 6: as good as you are as a tackling defense, if

774
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 6: you're the Patriots, you still are not trying to have

775
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 6: those guys schemed up against you know, an extension of

776
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 6: your run game, that that short screen game, or that

777
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 6: like wide perimeter passing game with the running back, because

778
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 6: it is still a mismatch, and so I really feel

779
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 6: like you're going to see a lot of guys moving

780
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 6: in different positions or pre snap then, especially to try

781
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 6: to get their best athlete against you know.

782
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: Patriots'll test the communication.

783
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: But I do think that's probably like one of the

784
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: strengths of the Patriots defense, which look, they've been on

785
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: fire in terms of EPA pro play for their best

786
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: five games of the season are the last, which is

787
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's like in a row. It includes an

788
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: insane Week eighteen game that didn't matter at all that

789
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: the weather was involved, like we've been through all this,

790
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: but they are playing their best, which is why like,

791
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: I haven't thought this was as big a mismatches as

792
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: people think, like in weighted Dboa, which is waiting the

793
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: end of the season more than the beginning. These are

794
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: the best two teams in the NFL. There's a decent

795
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: gap between the two, but they actually have the Patriots. Second,

796
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: I think ken Walker in pass pro could be an issue.

797
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: All the fantasy heads and everyone on Twitter and Blue

798
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: Sky's like, why why aren't they playing Kenneth Walker every

799
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: snap even in the championship game, And you know it's

800
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: it's because they.

801
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: Don't totally trust him.

802
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: So like that matchup against like Jack Gibbons or someone

803
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: could work out so well with Walker as a receiver,

804
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: but could work out really poorly if the Patriots are blitzing.

805
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: So that that's just like one little game inside the game.

806
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: Thing I'm walking is could Ken Walker get his quarterback hit?

807
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 10: I think about what I've seen that these Patriots media

808
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 10: availabilities this week, and you know, they have all their

809
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 10: personnel walking around and they're all wearing Patriots Brandon stuff,

810
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 10: and I keep seeing this one guy with this jacket

811
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 10: and on the back it says bring the fight.

812
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: And if the Patriots are going to bring the fight

813
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: to the Seahawks.

814
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 10: I think it's going to be dialing up the blitz,

815
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 10: getting after them, knocking them out of their rhythm early,

816
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 10: trying to tilt the game in your favor so that

817
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 10: you can capitalize, because, like you said, Jordan, the last

818
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 10: place you want to be is trailing to the Seahawks

819
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 10: and letting Mike McDonald's defense.

820
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 9: Go to work.

821
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: So I think that starts on the defensive side of

822
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: the football.

823
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: There are so many games of watching the Seahawks this

824
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: year where he really didn't look great for like a

825
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: hot minute, like the Panthers game Kids this, and then

826
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: suddenly it's an avalanche or suddenly the avale or the

827
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: avalanche is in the first half.

828
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 11: Yep.

829
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: What I mean to say is like it sort of

830
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: happens all at once, and then it's overwhelming and the

831
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: game's over and they can do it in the first,

832
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: the second, the fourth.

833
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: Let's worried.

834
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 6: So I like what you guys have said about the blitz,

835
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 6: because if I'm calling the blitz at what the forty

836
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 6: percent right according to the next Gen since Week fourteen

837
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 6: that they have been doing and even I would say

838
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 6: even higher through the Poe season as well, just eye

839
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 6: testing that.

840
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 4: Do it whenever you have a poor, past.

841
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 6: Pro guy on the field, do it whenever you're afraid

842
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 6: that there even if even if Kenn Walker ends up.

843
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 5: Being the hot on that play, I take it every time.

844
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 2: Because then you just make a one on one tackle

845
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: and open space and they're a great tackling Yes.

846
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 6: Exactly, exactly, And I just think that this is Mike

847
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 6: Rabel and him just like he's just plotting, you know,

848
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 6: and he's just got the you know what I mean,

849
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 6: Like you just feel like and you kind of heard it.

850
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 6: Like Mike Donald was talking earlier this week, I read

851
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 6: in some of the quotes which just like, yeah, you know,

852
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 6: it's a lot of time, it's a lot of time

853
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 6: to think about stuff.

854
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 4: And that's exactly what I just there's something in the works.

855
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: I just know it.

856
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 6: I feel it in my bones with Rabel, some little wrinkle,

857
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 6: whether it's situationally or whether it is his defense against

858
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 6: this offense that is full of.

859
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 4: You know, mom stars when they're at their best.

860
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 6: Maybe mine is like the right side of the line

861
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 6: or the interior right side of the line, and like

862
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,959
Speaker 6: really trying to flip their.

863
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 4: Own math against them and that's exactly one way to

864
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 4: do it.

865
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll e. Connolly pointed out on Monday.

866
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: So I don't want to just keep repeating it, but

867
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna be have a big ex on

868
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: Anthony Bradford rate guards back in Jake Sundell the Center.

869
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: So I did a little Patriots Radio like the team

870
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: Radio today that felt good coming home, and one of

871
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: the hosts there was like, I am putting all my

872
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: money on you know, Milton Williams Super Bowl MVP plus

873
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: sixteen hundred or whatever it is play, and I was like,

874
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: that's not bad.

875
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald couldn't even win Super Bowl MVP.

876
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 3: I mean, Malcolm Smith could do it, so you never know,

877
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: it can happen. That would be fun, but they're not back.

878
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: Last little note, Bill Barnwell.

879
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: Had this in his Super Bowl preview that you know

880
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: when the Seahawks used two tight ends when they when

881
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: they get heavy, teams almost always match it with their

882
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: base defense. And when that happens, the Seahawks performed like

883
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: the best offense in the league essentially, and that probably

884
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: is what the Patriots are going to do. But when

885
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: teams like keep their all their defensive backs on the field.

886
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: The Seahawks have struggled a little bit there, so so

887
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: what will the Patriots do there?

888
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 9: We'll see.

889
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 6: That was a huge talking point, like by Greg Olsen

890
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 6: too through the course of the season, because teams were

891
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 6: staying in base so rigidly against the Seahawks.

892
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: Twelve personnel, staying heavy.

893
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, and and so that's and that's that's what's interesting

894
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 6: to me is like where are their wrinkles to be found?

895
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 4: Right, because you have to think that might be one

896
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 4: of them.

897
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 6: If you know they're going to pass out of that formation,

898
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 6: why wouldn't you put your best pass defense on the field.

899
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: J Barner Super Bowl MVP.

900
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: Aj aj Barner. Watch him, watch him in motion. He

901
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: he is kind of the skeleton key that unlocks a

902
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: lot of it. All right, I think we've done it

903
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: and under our time. Barnwell, by the way, we got

904
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: a little time a delightful dinner with him last night.

905
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: Oh, Nate Tyson, the mix.

906
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: Will Gavin meeting a football mind.

907
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: It was what a crew. It was quite a crew.

908
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 4: That's like everyone's in a shacket.

909
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: I was in an oatmeal sweater.

910
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: Oh Patriots, Look, I'll have you start Jordan, what do

911
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: you think is the most important thing for this Patriots

912
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 1: offense to survive Seattle, especially early in the game. I'm

913
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: really thinking about the first half and before all the

914
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 1: adjustments they're coming.

915
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:27,959
Speaker 4: In past pro.

916
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 6: I mean, we're looking at an offensive line that I

917
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 6: think we had measured expectations over. Certainly you were quite

918
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 6: measured in your expectations, but your prediction has sort of

919
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 6: come true. They've they've really struggled and keeping. It's not

920
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 6: just about like because I don't have any doubt that

921
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 6: Drake maked like come back from getting hit or adversity

922
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 6: or whatever. And the shoulder is something to think about

923
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 6: in this case. I know they say that it's fine

924
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 6: and all of that, but when you are getting hit

925
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 6: like that, you just have to think about it. But

926
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 6: it's and it's not so much like him battling back

927
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 6: from pressure, right, it's more so like the rhythm.

928
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 4: Of the offense and the timing of the offense, and.

929
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 6: Some one of its biggest weapons is how they use

930
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 6: the timing, how they get to the ball quickly, when

931
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 6: they mix up tempo and not when they do the

932
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 6: quick strike passes when they don't, when they choose to run, when.

933
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 4: They don't all of its rhythm and sequencing.

934
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 6: And Josh McDaniel we talked to a bunch of guys

935
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 6: this week about this, that he's one of the best

936
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 6: there is at sequencing these types of things together. If

937
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 6: you're getting to him to mess up that timing and

938
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 6: those play sequencing enough, you are in trouble right out

939
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 6: of the game.

940
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: One thing I liked it goes off what you said earlier.

941
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: McDonald was saying, that's a long time to be Yeah,

942
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: these two weeks. I like that the Patriots kind of

943
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: talked about Babel said how McDaniels convinced them don't don't

944
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: install the game plan last week, Like that's sort of

945
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: a first couple of times in the Super Bowl mistake.

946
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: Keep a lot in your pocket to show the players

947
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: so that there's some fresh stuff at you know, the Wednesday, Thursday,

948
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: Friday practice late, like add some things late in the mix.

949
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: So he's like, Okay, that's good, I'll keep it in

950
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 3: my pocket. So maybe it's that kind of Wiley experience.

951
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: So I like that a lot, like not to go

952
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: back to the running game again.

953
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 10: But I think about the Patriots offense, how much they've

954
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 10: struggled in the playoffs, and then I just came across

955
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 10: a very useful note from our NFL research team, which

956
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 10: is that since two thousand and only five teams have

957
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 10: won the Super Bowl with the running back averaging fewer

958
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 10: than eighty five playoff rushing yards per game. Three of

959
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 10: those teams were the Patriots with Tom Brady. So all

960
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 10: due respect for Drake May, but if he's dealing with

961
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 10: any sort of solder thing, so.

962
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: What is it, Antoine Smith, year has to be won?

963
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: I would guess, as Sony Michelle, does it? Does it show?

964
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 9: Okay?

965
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I have years?

966
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 10: I have there, give me the years two thousand and one,

967
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 10: twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen.

968
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: Yea, and one of them was the end of the

969
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: Lagarrett one. Yeah, year too.

970
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: Their running game is stunk in the playoffs, just not

971
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: as much as the passing game, so it's kind of

972
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: stun guy. Yeah, I mean their EPA per play it's

973
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: really crazy. Went from first they were the best offense

974
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: in the league. Yeah, that's not adjusting for opponent, but

975
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: they were the best offensive league in the regular season.

976
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: If you take their.

977
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: Playoff number, they would be thirty rushing it's twenty fifth,

978
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: twenty six they've just stayed mediocre. A lot of that

979
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: is because Traveon henderson snaps have been incredibly negative. Not

980
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: just negative plays, but his pass word has been a

981
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: little iffy. He has fifty seven yards in twenty four snaps.

982
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: They just took him off the field essentially. I don't

983
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be the case. I think it was

984
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of a weather situation that they like

985
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: what was happening when it's really started snowing against Houston

986
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: and then against Denver was like they did not trust

987
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: him anymore and he wasn't productive as bad as Rimandre's numbers.

988
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: Kind of look, he's under four yards per carried, but

989
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: he's like three and a half.

990
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 3: I mean Travion's under two. It's like two to two

991
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: and a half. Like it's tough. But I think they

992
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: need him. I think they need his explosive ability.

993
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: I think he will be like a part of this

994
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,479
Speaker 1: game because I think the only way that they're gonna

995
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: win against Seattle is getting some chunk plays.

996
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: They're not gonna slowly move that.

997
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 4: Bume, no, and you know what, and chunk plays are

998
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 4: able to be gotten.

999
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 6: Surprisingly because the Seahawks defense is the best in the NFL,

1000
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 6: maybe minus the Houston Texans, but the Texans are obviously

1001
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 6: not playing right now, like this Seahawks defense is so

1002
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 6: se has seemed so infallible and stout all season, but

1003
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 6: explosive plays in the playoffs have been possible, especially two

1004
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 6: weeks ago against this team, and you really need to

1005
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 6: like have those field flipping especially if they get a

1006
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 6: lead on Seattle early, you really need to have those

1007
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 6: field flipping explosives that Trayvon Henderson maybe he's like really

1008
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 6: not consistent in getting you doubles right now, but he

1009
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 6: still can hit the home run, and especially to take

1010
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 6: some of the teeth out of that pass rush, help

1011
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 6: Drake may might be the one getting you a scramble

1012
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 6: explosive early on in the game. To try to like

1013
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 6: set a tone for this offense.

1014
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: It's been the best thing he's done.

1015
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 4: It's on early down.

1016
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: It's two best rushing games of the year, just yardage wise, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1017
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 3: And so and so.

1018
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 6: For me, it's like you can't think about the shoulder

1019
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 6: right like you're you're thinking about it, but you can't

1020
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 6: think about it like you gotta like let him cut

1021
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 6: him loose.

1022
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 4: It's like the Josh Allen button right, like you've just

1023
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 4: got to go.

1024
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1025
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 10: I feel like Mike Rabel's pregame speeches is gonna be

1026
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 10: going into the locker room being like there is no tomorrow,

1027
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 10: Like I don't care what injury you're dealing with.

1028
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: You have, Yes, I'm gonna bloody myself to make you

1029
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: realize that you gotta.

1030
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 10: Lay it all out there on the field, which don't

1031
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 10: think they're gonna have a problem with, but that that's

1032
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 10: where I think it does come back to the offensive line.

1033
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: It's been a storyline with this team all year.

1034
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 10: You have a young left side with two rookies, you

1035
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 10: had the three veterans starting at the center going to

1036
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 10: the right. Obviously be focused a lot on Will Campbell

1037
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 10: and his strolls against premier edge rushers.

1038
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: He is going to be targeted in this game by

1039
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: the Seahawks defense.

1040
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 10: But what's gonna make it so much harder for this

1041
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 10: Patriots offense is the way the Seahawks play their defense.

1042
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 10: Robert Mays did a great video on this like a

1043
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 10: week or two ago that I checked out last week,

1044
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 10: in which he explained why the Seahawks defense is on

1045
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 10: the cutting edge because they can stay in Nickels so much.

1046
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 10: They have this not unique but close to unique personnel

1047
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 10: grouping that allows them to be stout against the run

1048
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 10: despite being in subpackaged the entire time.

1049
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: So then you must find the wrinkle and where is

1050
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 2: the wrinkle. If it's nowhere else, then your.

1051
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 10: Quarterback running, which is why I think that's a key

1052
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 10: part of it, which is why he could be the

1053
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 10: X factor beyond the traditional idea of a quarterback playing

1054
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 10: well in the Super Bowl.

1055
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 6: I would add too that the things that the Patriots

1056
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 6: do well when things are going well for their offense

1057
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 6: includes like utilizing their tight ends effectively in those crossers

1058
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 6: and in the middle of the field, and also against Seattle,

1059
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 6: you know, being a personnel neutralizer, heavier light whatever the

1060
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 6: Patriots want to do like Seattle normally would be able

1061
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 6: to defend that extremely well and stay and not have

1062
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 6: to sub. And it doesn't matter if you go tempo

1063
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 6: on them, because they don't have to sub. A lot

1064
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 6: of that is because of nick emm and Worri, who

1065
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 6: pulled up with a limp in practice this week and

1066
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 6: he is expected to play according to Mike McDonald. There

1067
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 6: are also videos of him, however, walking out of a

1068
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 6: car into the hotel with a very visible limp. So

1069
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 6: it's like he is your X factor and being able

1070
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 6: to what we've talked a lot about on this show,

1071
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 6: staying as a personnel neutralizing defense where it does not

1072
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 6: matter if they think they're gonna disguise runner pass.

1073
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 4: You don't care.

1074
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 6: You can play light on big or big on light

1075
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 6: and it doesn't matter because you have the speed and

1076
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 6: size either way. But this might be a case where

1077
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 6: you're very very much watching him during pregame warm ups.

1078
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 4: If you are Josh McDaniels.

1079
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 3: You're shooting that thing up. He's got to feeling no pain.

1080
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's not what you want.

1081
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: If you're the Seahawks in super Bowl week, when you

1082
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: get that pool report, I think it's Kayla Kaylor. It

1083
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: was right in it this week for this my girl,

1084
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: you know the Pro Football writers, and yeah, that nick

1085
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: him Ben worried that he was during practice. It's not

1086
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: great that the most important thinking the entire game to

1087
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: me for the Patriots is Drake May's in turn o'clock.

1088
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: I actually think this playoff run in his struggles is

1089
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: more on him than actually people are being a little

1090
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: kid Glovey with him, like the offensive line has not

1091
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: been great. When they've lost, they've lost like catastrophic means

1092
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: so quickly. But three four of his fumbles were on

1093
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: him being un indecisive. It was that on him being

1094
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: too unaware of what's going on, of him resetting after

1095
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: there was initial press pressure and then trying to like

1096
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: cock the the arm back again and then losing the ball.

1097
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 1: His pressure to sack rate is all the sacks, that's

1098
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Speaker 1: the three now, it's for real, It's insane. It's fifteen

1099
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Speaker 1: sacks out of thirty three per like the pressure, right,

1100
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: isn't even that that crazy? Partly because you know in

1101
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: the Denver snow like yeah, so that they've been like

1102
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: he just his eyes have been fast. He's been a

1103
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: little bit of what Sam Donald is when Sam Donald's

1104
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: not playing well, where he's going through those reads fast.

1105
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: It's just a little it's a little frennetic. And you

1106
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: can almost see the moment in the Chargers game where

1107
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: it happens, because, like I said, I went back and

1108
00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: watched these the Charges.

1109
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: He was a normal game. He had a couple of

1110
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: fumbles in the game, but that was the Patriots offense.

1111
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: We've seen all year, and he was being patient and

1112
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: that's a similar type of defense that he's going to

1113
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Speaker 1: go against, you know, most similar maybe in the NFL

1114
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: that Jesse Minner is running with the charges to what

1115
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: McDonald's doing. And he was patient in that game, and

1116
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: I think played pretty well, but then there were a

1117
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: couple of those quick pressures. He loses the ball a

1118
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: couple of times, and it's like he never he hasn't

1119
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: really gotten out of that.

1120
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Speaker 3: And I'm just hoping that a little sunshines.

1121
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 1: And dry hair will help out both him and Trayvion

1122
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: because I feel like they're not bad weather players right now.

1123
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Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's also that's also what I meant about

1124
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 6: the timing, like messing with their timing because it's a drake.

1125
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 6: It is a drake may question too of like if

1126
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 6: you can quick pressure him, even some of the delayed

1127
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 6: pressure stuff that like makes you think about or like

1128
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 6: double pump or something like that can lead to some

1129
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 6: of these types of issues that we see.

1130
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 2: And that's what makes him such a this game such

1131
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: a perplexing prediction.

1132
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Speaker 10: Yeah, because you don't know which version of drake may

1133
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 10: you get because you've seen both in the same game,

1134
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 10: because for all of his struggles with his internal clock,

1135
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 10: he's also hit the d pass, you know, against the

1136
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 10: Texans to put them away as sleet as falling. And

1137
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 10: then you can take into account the bad weather that

1138
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 10: they played in throughout the playoffs.

1139
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 2: Is that a factor?

1140
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 10: Is he going to be, you know, more on time

1141
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 10: and more confident in the Super Bowl or is the

1142
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 10: pressure of the moment and only a second year going

1143
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 10: to play a part.

1144
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: And I'm glad Jordan that you.

1145
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 10: Brought up tight ends a few minutes ago, because I

1146
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 10: love our research team, but I did come across a

1147
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 10: mildly disrespectful note, which was that the headline was which

1148
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 10: non star pass catcher will step up to help their

1149
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 10: Super Bowl debutante quarterback? And it dives into Hunter Henry

1150
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 10: Hunter Henry, who was Drake Bay's number one target last year,

1151
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 10: I mean punter Henry, who caught a touchdown pass against

1152
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 10: the Chargers in the playoffs. He said it was his

1153
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 10: favorite touchdown catch up the entire season. Today he said that.

1154
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: That might be the biggest spot.

1155
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 3: Don't I don't think he's a star, though I think

1156
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 3: he's on.

1157
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 6: This Stefan Digg scale. You're definitely the no lesser. No, Yeah,

1158
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 6: but he's been doing at a high level for a

1159
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 6: long long time.

1160
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1161
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: Look, they could use they could use more out of Diggs,

1162
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: who's not really been a factor in the playoffs. You

1163
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: talked about like Winnie in the middle of the field.

1164
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes it comes down to just the players have to

1165
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: play their best. They have six drops the Patriots in

1166
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Henry has a couple of them. They've been

1167
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: one of the most sure handed teams, one of the

1168
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: best contested catch teams all year. They haven't been in

1169
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: the playoffs like they've They've dropped some open passes and

1170
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: they haven't been coming down with the one on ones,

1171
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: like boy Booty has been their number one receiver in

1172
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs.

1173
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 3: But they need they need a gain. You know, they

1174
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 3: need just.

1175
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: These guys to step up because they're not going to

1176
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: be that open. They're one of the least open teams

1177
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: in the league. Like Drake may like throwing it into

1178
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: tight windows and look Booty in a tight window.

1179
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 6: You know.

1180
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 10: Look, all I want is for when Pop Douglas scores

1181
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 10: a touchdown, I want Zolac to say, not to say

1182
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 10: that he's came out of nowhere, that he's been completely

1183
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 10: absent for the last month.

1184
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: He did in the playoffs, and you know what, I

1185
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: also took away watching that, Like May has tried so

1186
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: many he kept us going to those care an over

1187
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: and during the season out. But if he sees a

1188
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: one on one, like, he's gonna throw in, so take

1189
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 1: your shots.

1190
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to get an advantage. Give me some,

1191
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: he give me some. Kyle Williams snaps, got a stack

1192
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 3: for you.

1193
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 6: Thanks thanks to Bill Smith for putting these together to

1194
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 6: next gen fearless throws. Drake May led the NFL and

1195
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 6: tight window completion rate this season nearly fifty percent completion

1196
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 6: rate in tight window throw otherwise known sometimes.

1197
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 4: As big time flows, big time fos. But yeah, he

1198
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 4: doesn't care. He is fearless.

1199
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 6: We've talked to quarterbacks this week on this set talking

1200
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 6: about staying fearless even if you make mistakes.

1201
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 4: Drake May totally embodies that. I do want to just say,

1202
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 4: I think we've got an even match on special teams.

1203
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 6: Because I love how both of these coaches you get

1204
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 6: in there use their special teams units as a function

1205
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 6: of the offense.

1206
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 1: That is one of the you know, the numbers would

1207
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 1: say the Seattle is one of the best special teams

1208
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: units in the league yees top two or three.

1209
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 3: The Patriots are not like as as a like a as.

1210
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 4: A situationally as like a coverage the.

1211
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 6: Situation though the Patriots special teams unit and like just

1212
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 6: the coaching thoroughly across like, I do think.

1213
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: That this is the punter kind of stinks. The kickers

1214
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: and so far Rookie the coverage you, they're fine, They're fine.

1215
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 10: You know what, despite my my saying that he was

1216
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 10: going to cost them, you know, a playoff game or

1217
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 10: something in the playoffs.

1218
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: I think I think Porgalos is in better than we think.

1219
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 3: He's been fine.

1220
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: He's been fine, hasn't been tested. We did it, we

1221
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: got we got it in and under the time. I

1222
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: already did my picks because we wanted to get it

1223
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: out with Cynthia early. Of course, I'm taking the Patriots

1224
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: to win.

1225
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 4: It would be silly not to do, you guys, it's

1226
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 4: high scoring or low scoring.

1227
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: I said with Cynthia, and I know we're counting down here,

1228
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: but we will let them pick the game.

1229
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: We're done with the offense and the defense.

1230
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: And actually, I think this is the perfect part of

1231
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: the show to make it time for charging into the weekend,

1232
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: presented by Apple Card for all your game day purchases. Yes,

1233
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: they get the meat of the show when you guys

1234
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: make a pick. I said with Cynthia to answer your question,

1235
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: and she completely agreed with me. I felt better about

1236
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: it going over the number in terms of the over

1237
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: under then I did about either team, you know, covering

1238
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: the point.

1239
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 3: Spread or winning.

1240
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: I do think it's going to be a higher scoring

1241
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: game than expected. Happens a lot in the Super Bowl

1242
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: where the game is just it just feels longer for

1243
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: some reason.

1244
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 3: In the super Bowl, I think we're going to have points.

1245
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: I don't trust the Patriots to keep a big lead,

1246
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 1: and I think if the Patriots fall down, like they're

1247
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: just going to keep swinging, I think we get points.

1248
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 6: That's interesting because I'm actually taking the opposite tack both

1249
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 6: in pick and in situation. I really can see this

1250
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 6: being kind of a rock fight in some places, and

1251
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 6: I could see this being a relatively low scoring game.

1252
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 6: I am picking the Seahawks to win by three points

1253
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 6: seventeen fourteen. I know that is outlandish to hear, but

1254
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 6: every so often we've seen a couple of them every

1255
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 6: so often that really surprising, ugly fun game happens.

1256
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 4: And this is ripe for it to me.

1257
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 6: With two coaches at the peak of their powers, two

1258
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 6: defenses that are playing as well as they as they

1259
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 6: have been, and it's better than any almost anybody in

1260
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 6: the league, if not everybody, and two offenses that are

1261
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 6: going to try a bunch of different types of things

1262
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 6: over the course of a game to find these little creases,

1263
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 6: these little advantages.

1264
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna get. Like a first half, it's just a

1265
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 2: big feel out half.

1266
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 4: Can't wait.

1267
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the exact final score of Super Bowl

1268
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: forty two, the first Super Bowl I attended, where the

1269
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: Giants defeated the Patriots with the helmet catch game with

1270
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: every everyone remembers it's like a great game, but there

1271
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: was like no points in the fourth quarter where they

1272
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: each got a touchdowns.

1273
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 10: Back when we appreciated defensive games, that would be a

1274
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 10: disappointing real ball.

1275
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: Yeah ball, we appreciate real ball. I am actually kind

1276
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: of along for the ride with Jordan here.

1277
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 10: I do think that it's going to be a lower

1278
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 10: scoring game for many of the reasons that she just listed,

1279
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 10: and all the time that we just spent breaking all

1280
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 10: of this down because it's just really hard to find

1281
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 10: the edge for the Patriots in this matchup unless they

1282
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 10: create a couple of turnovers.

1283
00:55:59,320 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: To bring it closer.

1284
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 10: I had the Seahawks winning twenty four to thirteen, and

1285
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 10: it becomes twenty four to thirteen because the Seahawks had

1286
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 10: a fourth quarter takeaway that becomes points.

1287
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 2: That is the deck.

1288
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 5: Nice.

1289
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 3: I appreciate you had the guts creativity to have.

1290
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: Like almost a blowout, and because I think that's how

1291
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: Jordan feels it's gonna happen.

1292
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 3: But she's too nice and doesn't want to hurt.

1293
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: My feelings, you know, and it wouldn't it wouldn't I

1294
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: respect to be, you know, speaking your truth.

1295
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 3: Turnovers.

1296
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: You have two teams that have been a little sloppy

1297
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: with the ball for yet they made it all the

1298
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,480
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Speaker 3: Let's take a break.

1303
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: When we come back, you're going to hear our interviews

1304
00:56:54,560 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: with Garrett Bowles, All Pro Protector of the Year finals

1305
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: left tackle of the Denver Broncos. He was great on

1306
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: the Broncos about playing offensive line, and then also a

1307
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: little bit on the Patriots we talked about too. He

1308
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: has not let go of that that loss whatsoever. I

1309
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: will also talk to Chris Matt Doctor Brusso, and then

1310
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Speaker 1: we'll say goodbye on the very end.

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Speaker 3: First, little brand all right, we are so thrilled to.

1312
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: Be welcoming in Garrett Bowles, the All Pro tackle of

1313
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos and also a finalist for the inaugural

1314
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: NFL Protector of the Year award. And yeah, that's just

1315
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Speaker 1: a handful of offensive linemen. One of the best to

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Speaker 1: do it in the league. Right now, Garrett, you got

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Speaker 1: to you got a chance to make history as the

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Speaker 1: first Protector of the Year award winner.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 11: I'm just grateful to be even the finalists, to be

1321
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Speaker 11: nominated by my peers and obviously the the that selects it.

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Speaker 11: And I got great teammates and great coaches that pushed

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Speaker 11: me every single day to be the best version of myself.

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Speaker 11: And I couldn't have done it without them. I have

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Speaker 11: a great team around me and my agent and my

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Speaker 11: beautiful wife, my uncle that runs my foundation and runs

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Speaker 11: my day to day things, and then obviously my mom.

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Speaker 11: But my wife is the ride and die soldier for me,

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Speaker 11: and she pushes me to be the best version of

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Speaker 11: myself every day.

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Speaker 6: Was she the one kind of encouraging the touchdown catch

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Speaker 6: and the like I feel like I had her written

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Speaker 6: all over it.

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Speaker 5: I feel like she's drawing that one up.

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Speaker 11: Besides, I wanted to win MVP. I'm not going to

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Speaker 11: lie to you. I was striving for that. When they

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Speaker 11: told us that the big guys can play, I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 11: I'm definitely gonna do it. And then we went out

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00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 11: to practice and they're like, can you really catch the ball?

1340
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Speaker 11: And so I was catching some passes from Shador and obviously.

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Speaker 9: You know, they let me do it. So I was like,

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Speaker 9: why not play the game and have some fun with it.

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Speaker 3: You got to score.

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Speaker 1: I think you got a two point conversion or some

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Speaker 1: sort of conversion. And I heard you say you wanted

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Speaker 1: to show how the offensive linemen are the best athletes.

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00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: How about like, did you feel like not keeping your

1348
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Speaker 1: feet after that first score with not.

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Speaker 3: Making your case for it?

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Speaker 9: Listen. I really was.

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Speaker 11: Well, I caught my toae on the ground, so I

1352
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 11: was like, I'm just gonna roll with it and have

1353
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Speaker 11: some fun with it, you know, try to like make

1354
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 11: it look like even the cool Liert catch. But I

1355
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 11: caught the one they it wasn't supposed to be a touchdown,

1356
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Speaker 11: but they took it away. So then I caught the touchdown.

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Speaker 11: Then I caught the you know, the other two catches

1358
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Speaker 11: for the two point conversions. But so I had three

1359
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 11: catches total should have been four. But I was just

1360
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Speaker 11: trying to get as many tries as I can. So

1361
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Speaker 11: I was trying to let the big man eat. And

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Speaker 11: you know, just like what Jason Kelsey said on his

1363
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Speaker 11: on his thing on the A span, let give him

1364
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Speaker 11: the ball. They can't be stopped. And you know, I

1365
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 11: was feeling good. But it was so much fun. I mean,

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Speaker 11: scoring a touchdown in the Pro Bowl game at three

1367
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Speaker 11: hundred plus pounds as a left tackle was pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: It's incredible.

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Speaker 6: And you know, Greg and I always say on our show,

1370
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Speaker 6: like we want to be the change, right, Like Protector

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Speaker 6: of the Year is great, but envyp.

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Speaker 5: Come on, we want to talk.

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Speaker 9: I was trying. I was trying my best.

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Speaker 11: So now my team gives me a hard time to like, oh,

1375
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 11: what's better winning the Super Bowl or the MVP of

1376
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 11: the Pro Bowl. I'm like, oh, come on, guys, so

1377
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Speaker 11: but it's been fun. It's been fun. It was fun

1378
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 11: to watch my wife. My son was probably the most

1379
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 11: excited of me scoring a touchdown. He was going crazy

1380
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Speaker 11: up there. But it was a good time for all

1381
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Speaker 11: of me.

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Speaker 3: We had you on at dinner.

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Speaker 1: You know, people who say, like the Pro Bowls debt

1384
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl games, like you know, adults are like, come on,

1385
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: we want the old game. There are people that care,

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Speaker 1: and there are kids because my son loves loves that game,

1387
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Speaker 1: and we were watching you enjoying it. I was thinking about,

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01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, we were talking about you want to be

1389
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Speaker 1: the change of like right, be the in our mind,

1390
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: like be the coverage that we want to hear, like

1391
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: know and ball. And one thing I think that's tough

1392
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Speaker 1: for people who didn't play the game, like myself or

1393
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: fans watching me watching is knowing what to watch for

1394
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: with offensive line play. So I was thinking I would

1395
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: ask you if you were telling a fan what to

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01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: watch for in terms of basics of like how to

1397
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: tell who's good who's not or even like what what

1398
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: should they look for when they're watching offensive line plays

1399
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Speaker 1: so that they can be smart and know who to

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Speaker 1: vote for for Protector of the Year, not that they're voting.

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01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 9: That's a that's a great question.

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01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 11: I'm glad you asked me that because a lot of

1403
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 11: people don't know about offensive play and what we do

1404
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 11: and they just see, you know, the big names, and

1405
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 11: they just vote for those guys even though you know, yeah,

1406
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 11: they're good players and they have their name because they've

1407
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 11: been in the league for a long time, but they

1408
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 11: may not, you know, be the best. And that's just

1409
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 11: reality is every year, everyone you never know who's going

1410
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 11: to be the best, and you never know who's gonna,

1411
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 11: you know, go from you know, you got stack a year.

1412
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Speaker 11: You got to earn your credits, and it's like what

1413
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,479
Speaker 11: you do what you can do for me now league,

1414
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Speaker 11: And that's really what the NFL is and being a

1415
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 11: great offensive linement. It's all about moving your feet. How

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01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 11: how you can stay in front of somebody. Yeah, it's

1417
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 11: cool to make big time blocks and put guys in

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Speaker 11: the ground, like that's cool and all, but like I

1419
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 11: think the most cool thing is like how can a

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Speaker 11: big guy three hundred plus pounds move their feet, stay

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01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 11: in front of their guy, mirror a defender like a

1422
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 11: Miles Gear, you know, Joey Bosa, all these freaks at

1423
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 11: avatars that I call them, I call them avatars and

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Speaker 11: stay in front of them, move their feet and block

1425
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 11: them and push them, push them off the edge. And

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Speaker 11: that's that's really what it is is how can you

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Speaker 11: stay in front of your guy, move them around and

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01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 11: make sure that your ball care opening up holes for

1429
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Speaker 11: your run game and then protecting you for your quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I just think, just just watching them, that's the start.

1431
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: Don't watch the ball, watch them. If you watch them

1432
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Speaker 1: play to play, you start learning and then watch a feet.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 6: The most valuable lesson I ever learned was when I

1435
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 6: was shadowing scouts the Senior Bowl and they were watching

1436
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 6: O line drills and everyone's face is pointed down toward

1437
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 6: the ground and I'm like, Okay, well, what are you

1438
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 6: guys watching? And they said, ankles, ankles and feet, that's

1439
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 6: where we're watching. Mobility and how you know the joints

1440
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 6: flex and change and how fluid and agile a player

1441
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 6: can be at that size. I mean, you gotta line

1442
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 6: full of them, Garrett, Like, this is the Denver Broncos

1443
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 6: offensive line. This is one of our favorite groups in

1444
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 6: football to watch of any position this season and full

1445
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 6: of like big personalities and camaraderie. It seems like from

1446
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 6: Afar being in the room not just finding like complimentary skills, right,

1447
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 6: First of all, how that works when you're an offensive

1448
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 6: line and you're building out what a room looks like

1449
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 6: on the field, but personalities too, Like you guys have

1450
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 6: to be so mentally nonverbally locked in all the time.

1451
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 4: How do you build that? And how does like a

1452
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 4: team go about building a roster like that?

1453
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I've been in Denver for a long time,

1454
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 9: so I've been on some good lines, and.

1455
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Speaker 11: I've been on some I'm not going to say not

1456
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 11: bad lines, but not the best atmosphere or the culture

1457
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 11: or what you put into it, you know, because we've

1458
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 11: had so many changes of coaching staffs, and what a

1459
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Speaker 11: lot of people don't realize is, like this is the

1460
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 11: second time in my NFL career that I've had the

1461
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 11: same old line coaches for three straight years.

1462
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Speaker 9: You know.

1463
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Speaker 11: I had Mike Munchek from nineteen twenty twenty one and

1464
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 11: then I had Zach Street from what was it twenty three,

1465
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 11: twenty four to twenty five, So if.

1466
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Speaker 9: You really look at it like that, it's crazy to

1467
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 9: really look at it.

1468
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Speaker 11: And in between, I've had so many different on line coaches,

1469
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 11: so many different change that can hurt a team, and

1470
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 11: you it starts from the trenches, and you know, technically

1471
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 11: over you know, the last couple of years, Denver's had

1472
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Speaker 11: the best defensive line in football, you know, arguably with

1473
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 11: Von Miller earlier days, to Marcus Square to now you know,

1474
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 11: Nick Benito and Cooper and you know Zach Allen and

1475
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 11: DJ Jones and Malcolm Roach like freaks and natures that

1476
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 11: we have to block every single day. Hopefully we get

1477
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 11: JFM back, and you know, all those guys that I

1478
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 11: love dearly and appreciate them for pushing me to be

1479
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 11: the best version of myself. But the old line that's

1480
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 11: five guys working together is one. It's a very cohesive unit.

1481
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Speaker 11: And we have a lot of good people on our

1482
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 11: O line and from Mike McGlinchey to bringing him in

1483
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 11: from San France and having that coach that he's had

1484
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 11: over there to coming in here, and we got Quinn

1485
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 11: miners where the freaking nature he is. We got Luke

1486
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 11: Waltenberg with great center, and then you know Ben Powers,

1487
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 11: my ride and Die Soldier on the O line. Love

1488
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 11: him dearly, so grateful for him and all the things

1489
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 11: that he does for me. Pushes me to be the

1490
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 11: best left tackle in football, and you know obviously and

1491
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 11: then me on the left side. So we have a

1492
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 11: really solid five guys. You know, we played so many

1493
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 11: games together. I mean when we played the Eagles this

1494
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 11: year and then after that, you know, Ben went down.

1495
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 11: We need to skip a beat, you know, Matt Perk

1496
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 11: came in, Alex Pachow came in, So we have a

1497
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 11: lot of guys that are depth in our old line.

1498
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 11: And I truly believe that if we're not the best

1499
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 11: SO line, we're one of the best O lines. And

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01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 11: you know, I think we're the best. And I think,

1501
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 11: you know, more people are going to start to realize that.

1502
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's part of Sean Payton's secret sauce.

1503
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: I want to get some of your thoughts on the

1504
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: game coming up this part of our preview show. So

1505
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna put on Nickla's hat and give us a

1506
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: little bit of a scouting reports and since he just

1507
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: played these Patriots. But I think one thing the average

1508
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: fan misses with with Sean Payton, and it goes back

1509
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: to his time with the Saints, And I thought Zach

1510
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: Street was kind of a creative pick because he didn't

1511
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: have a lot of experience to be your offensive line coach.

1512
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: What what is it about like a Peyton team and

1513
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: offense that a great offensive line follows? Like, is there

1514
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: something specific that he has his whether it's the system

1515
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: or the way that he has his line coaches coach,

1516
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: because whether it's Drew Brees or bow knicks like that,

1517
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: that's the through line. And I think that's been maybe

1518
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: the key to why Sean Payton's had these great offenses

1519
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: over there.

1520
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Speaker 11: Yeah, he loves super athletic tackles and he loves big

1521
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 11: monsters in the middle. I mean, I mean that's just

1522
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 11: that's just reality. And and I think what separates us

1523
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 11: from every single old line in football is our pass

1524
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 11: plot win rate.

1525
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Speaker 9: And it's not just me, it's everybody across the board.

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Speaker 11: And you know, the garden center has to protect the

1527
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 11: you know, the depth of the pocket, create the pocket,

1528
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 11: and we got to create you know, the edges and

1529
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 11: make sure that bow's comfortable. I mean, we gave up

1530
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 11: the fewest amount of sacks in all of football. And

1531
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 11: when you can pass the ball in this league, which

1532
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 11: is becoming a passing league, I know every old lineman

1533
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 11: wants to run the ball, but we we love running

1534
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 11: the ball to We wish we can run the ball more,

1535
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 11: but Sean wants to call the pass and we're ready

1536
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 11: for that. We embrace that. It's the moment of truth

1537
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 11: block that we talk about all the time. You know,

1538
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 11: what are you gonna do in the What is your

1539
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 11: mind and your body gonna do in the final moments

1540
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 11: and the biggest state, on the biggest stage, in front

1541
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 11: of the brightest lights, in front of the most fans.

1542
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 11: And we practice those moments day in and day out,

1543
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 11: and it's those two minute drives. It's those crucial moments

1544
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 11: of the games that we practice so that when we

1545
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 11: get in those situations in the game, we don't skip

1546
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 11: a beat and everyone can say, hey, you know, we

1547
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 11: won twelve games and one score games this year and

1548
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 11: that's the reason why we were fourteen to three well

1549
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 11: wins the winning this league. It doesn't matter how you win,

1550
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 11: it matters how you finish, and we finished the games

1551
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 11: how we want to. But it came down to us

1552
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 11: creating a turnover or stopping them on defense, which is

1553
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 11: what we praise, and us going down there and putting

1554
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 11: points on the scoreboard if it's a game winning field

1555
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 11: goal or if it's seven points like we did against

1556
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 11: you know, coming back score thirty points in the fourth

1557
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 11: quarter against the Giants. So great pass bokers, We're great listeners.

1558
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 11: We've got great detail, and the sky's the limit for

1559
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 11: this whole line.

1560
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 6: I know we want to get your thoughts on this

1561
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 6: challenge with the Patriots and especially that defensive front, and

1562
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 6: I know you know it very well, but something you

1563
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 6: said there really sparked for me because I feel like

1564
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 6: the offensive line has such a role to play in

1565
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 6: situational football. Like you know, on the outside, yes, winning

1566
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,719
Speaker 6: that many close games, that many one score games, people

1567
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 6: can say that's good situational football is winning those games,

1568
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 6: that is creating an edge in that phase of the

1569
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 6: strategy of football. But you guys, as an offensive line

1570
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 6: are so crucial to that, whether it's getting to the

1571
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 6: ball with the right timing, some of the cadences that

1572
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 6: bo is going to throw out behind it. Can you

1573
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 6: kind of open the door a little bit further about

1574
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 6: the role that you guys specifically play in creating that

1575
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 6: edge with like Evan Rostina and those guys.

1576
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean obviously were Like I said, it's the

1577
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 11: cohesive unit that we have and the love that we

1578
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 11: have for one another. And this is the closest group

1579
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 11: I've ever been around. And yeah, we dog each other

1580
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 11: and make fun of each other and tease each other.

1581
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 11: Not even make fun of each other, it's more like

1582
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 11: teasing each other and making you know, seeing who we

1583
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 11: can get the most sensitive or you know, just funny

1584
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 11: little jokes that we play. But at the end of

1585
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 11: the day, like, I love these dudes, and I truly do.

1586
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 11: And you know, I want to up said that five

1587
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 11: years ago, and I probably want to have said that

1588
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 11: three years ago, But I truly love these dudes.

1589
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 9: They mean the world to me.

1590
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 11: I love how they just let me be myself and

1591
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 11: be the best version of myself. And you know, obviously,

1592
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 11: you know, I can be difficult sometimes, you know, just

1593
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 11: with who I am in person and being loud, and

1594
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 11: a lot of people don't realize how loud I am,

1595
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 11: but I.

1596
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 3: Am, and the pipes.

1597
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 6: We like it.

1598
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 5: We encourage it on my podcasts.

1599
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 9: Broadcasting here, That's what I did in school.

1600
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 11: I went to radio and communication radio broadcasting in school, Utah,

1601
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 11: so something I love to do. So who knows, maybe

1602
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 11: I have a future in but friend of the show

1603
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 11: the boys. The boys are great and we have we

1604
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 11: have a great on line coach that pushes us to

1605
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 11: be the best version of ourselves, you know, spending time

1606
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 11: with each other, going to O line dinners. We have

1607
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 11: a spot where we always go Lostos, which is a

1608
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 11: Mexican joint right across you know, right around the corner

1609
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 11: from our facility where we go every Thursday. We all

1610
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 11: eat the same meal. We all, you know, some people

1611
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 11: get dye coachs. We all have our same signature drink.

1612
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 11: We love each other and it's all about that camaraderie,

1613
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 11: spending time together in the off season, check in with

1614
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 11: each other, making sure we're good. You know, this is

1615
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 11: the first old line group that I've had where we

1616
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 11: have multiple dads, you know, because most O line groups

1617
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 11: are young, and you know, I've been the only dad

1618
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 11: in the room for so long. So you know, Mike

1619
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 11: has had is having two kids, Ben's having two kids.

1620
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 11: Luke has his first, and you know, you know, four

1621
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 11: sides having a child. So all these people are having babies,

1622
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 11: and I really think it just grows up a man

1623
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 11: when they when they have a child, and you know

1624
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 11: they're prior already change of like what can I do

1625
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 11: to be a better person, better version of myself?

1626
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,560
Speaker 9: I need to be that better person so that my

1627
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 9: child knows what their dad is. And I just speak.

1628
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 11: I think that just speaks volumes of our group and

1629
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 11: where we're going and how we're approaching every single day

1630
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 11: and what we're about to become. And we want to

1631
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 11: show the whole world what we're about. And you know,

1632
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 11: we're a tough group to play.

1633
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 1: So this Patriots team has been sending a lot more

1634
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: pressure in the postseason, having having.

1635
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 9: Just had the pressure of us. If not, they weren't

1636
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 9: going to win.

1637
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 3: Okay, I love it. I love it.

1638
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is uh, this is such valuable insight.

1639
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 5: I mean I want to we don't want to. We

1640
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 5: don't want to baitch into anything.

1641
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 3: If they're just rushing for you.

1642
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 9: I'll tell you this, if we had bo Nicks, it'd

1643
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 9: be a different ball game.

1644
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 3: I love it.

1645
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 11: That's all I'm saying how they can say what they want,

1646
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 11: whatever they want, but we lost by three points. Wasn't

1647
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 11: the snowstorm, wasn't anything. Steady did everything. You can love

1648
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 11: that dude. I'm so grateful you came in and handle

1649
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 11: the business he did. But it'd be a different ball

1650
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 11: game if we had our quarterback.

1651
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 6: How would you attack this, especially the interior defensive line

1652
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 6: of this Patriots.

1653
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 11: True whether the twenty eighth rank defense when it comes

1654
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 11: to shortyardage, that's just reality. Stats don't lie twenty eighth

1655
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 11: or twenty six. So they had the bottom of the

1656
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 11: polls in reality, and I mean that's just the truth.

1657
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 11: Stats don't lie. They struggle in shortyardage, especially short, very short,

1658
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 11: you know, anywhere from three to four yards. You gotta

1659
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 11: run the ball. You got to run the ball, and

1660
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,560
Speaker 11: third down you gotta punch him in the mouth. You

1661
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 11: gotta stick on your double teams. You're gonna drive your

1662
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 11: double teams up. They're gonna pressure, they're gonna turn, they're

1663
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 11: gonna slant, they're gonna you know, outcharge, and they're gonna

1664
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 11: do all those things. But you have to run the ball.

1665
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 11: Do I wish we ran the ball when it was

1666
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 11: fourth and one. Yeah, go back in time. Sure, but

1667
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 11: you know, coach made the play call. We got to

1668
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 11: execute it. We didn't, and that was a difference in

1669
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 11: the game. If not, we were going up fourteen to zero.

1670
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 11: And now it's a different story. I want to be

1671
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 11: here talking to.

1672
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 9: You, all right.

1673
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a mixed bag. We're glad you're here, but

1674
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 4: we would love to keep watching it.

1675
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1676
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm cool that you're here.

1677
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 12: I like it just like now.

1678
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: No, I feel I feel for you because what what

1679
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,560
Speaker 1: like were they doing in terms of a one on

1680
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 1: one matchup? If you got any scouting part, like you

1681
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: match up a little bit against Chase On. They have

1682
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 1: a young guy Ponder who is out on the edge

1683
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: against you. Obviously Harold Landry was not in that game

1684
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 1: anything that that you saw when you're going up against

1685
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: these guys one on one.

1686
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 11: Well, Chase On didn't. I think I played him three

1687
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 11: players or four plays, so I wanted him more.

1688
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 9: Trust me.

1689
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 5: Oh, they were moving him away from me a little bit.

1690
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 11: They were pushing him over to the right side. But

1691
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 11: we don't we won't need to say anything like that.

1692
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 11: But no, he he's a great player. You can attack him,

1693
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 11: get get underneath this skin. Get him talking a little bit.

1694
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 11: He gets frustrated, which is okay. You know, I like

1695
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 11: when people talk, but I also like to get you frustrated.

1696
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 11: So because if I get you frustrated, I can drive

1697
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 11: you off the ball and do things. But no, they

1698
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 11: have two monsters in the middle, and I respect both

1699
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 11: of them. I think they're great players, and I'm excited

1700
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 11: to see what happens. But Seattle has a great line.

1701
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 11: I mean, you got Abe Lucas, you got ze Ball,

1702
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 11: you got Gray, you got all those guys that can

1703
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 11: bring it. I think the left tackles back. If I

1704
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 11: believe he's signed a big deal this offseasons, cross can

1705
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 11: can can dominate the run. What makes Seattle special is

1706
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 11: play action passes. I wish we did more of those

1707
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 11: in our game. Get them running, and uh, they got

1708
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 11: freaking nature receivers, so they're gonna be chasing the tails

1709
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 11: off trying to chance those guys be an uphill battle.

1710
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 3: We'll never do you guy, You'll never find out. I mean,

1711
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 3: what if you had bo would you have won?

1712
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1713
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 5: I mean I picked you guys to be in the

1714
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 5: super Bowl.

1715
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: I'm just that was that's went And even even Withted,

1716
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: and I thought, yeah, I think that's we're on the

1717
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: record on that. It's hard to play those because then

1718
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: the whole game, the whole game is different then.

1719
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, like you guys have been the favorite reason

1720
01:14:58,320 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 3: if what about this game?

1721
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 9: Who wins this game?

1722
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 4: That's a great question.

1723
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: Don't spoil the rest of our content. No, but I

1724
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: grew up in Massachusetts. My cards on the table to you,

1725
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: So I'm going to pick the Patriots because I'm gonna.

1726
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna. I hope it sounds like you do.

1727
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 3: It sounds like you don't think they really should be there.

1728
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 11: No, not that they don't shouldn't be there, That's not

1729
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 11: what I'm saying. I'm just saying it would be a

1730
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 11: different outcome if if we had our starting quarterback. I

1731
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 11: think it was, you know, devastating for all of us

1732
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 11: when that happened. I thought it wasn't true. And then

1733
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 11: you know Bo took us there and he had a

1734
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 11: phenomenal year. And when you lose a guy like that,

1735
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 11: that's a leader of your group, not just the on line,

1736
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 11: but your team, and his confidence, lever is swagger and

1737
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 11: his ability to run and see the open field in

1738
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 11: different ways like it's a tough piece to lose, and

1739
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 11: obviously we were right there what we needed to do,

1740
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 11: but we just didn't get it done. But I'm excited

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Speaker 11: to see what the future holds for us.

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Speaker 1: And it's been really cool. I've watched your career. It's

1743
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: been nine seasons now. Vance Joseph, who's now your defensive coordinator,

1744
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 1: was your head coach when you came in. You've been

1745
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: You've been in Denver long enough that you've seen two

1746
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 1: different extended Vance Joseph eras. You were there for the

1747
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio era, and we've seen how you've improved and improved,

1748
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: and I think you're a great player. Development story of

1749
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: a guy who came in, you know, as a pro,

1750
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: but kept like raising his level and raising his level

1751
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 1: and raising his level, and it's like it doesn't have

1752
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: to stop raising after four or five, six years. And

1753
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 1: you kind of alluded to the fact that now, you know,

1754
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: maybe the longer people have gotten to watch you, they're

1755
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 1: recognizing what a great player you are and what a

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01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: great man. Because you are one of the finalists for

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01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 1: the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award that's gonna

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01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 1: be on Thursday night you're the NFLPA Alan Page Community

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01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 1: Award winner, so we really appreciate like everything that you

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01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 1: do off the field. And yeah, you got a chance

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01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: to be this inaugural NFL Protector.

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Speaker 3: Of the Year one. It's a very cool and very

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01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 3: pleased that you could join us on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 9: Thanks Garrett, thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 11: Truly me it's thank you so much for your support

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01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 11: and I have mad respect for both of you, so thank.

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01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 9: You appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: We are here with one of my all time favorites,

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01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: Chris mad Dog Russo from Serious XM mad Dog Radio.

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Speaker 1: From first take I was on, I was in the

1771
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 1: flight over here and I saw him honking about James Harden.

1772
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Speaker 3: Trade, like, get you a man that can do both.

1773
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put you on the spot about why

1774
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: did they take Anthony Simons away from my Celtics. I

1775
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: love Anthony Simons the Inferno, but really great to have

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Speaker 1: you back.

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Speaker 3: Nice to be here. Preview show.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna get right to it because frankly,

1779
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 1: I've I've already seen and I don't like to do this,

1780
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: but I've already kind of seen some of the things

1781
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: you've said about this Super Bowl, and frankly, it's a

1782
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 1: little disrespectful to the Patriots.

1783
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 3: Two of the people that I respect them most.

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01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: You and a friend of the show, Nick Westling, are

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01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: both saying this thing's not going to be close.

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01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not gonna say that. I'll say this.

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Speaker 13: I think the Patriots to have a good chance to

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01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 13: win the game. And I have all the respect in

1789
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 13: the world for Vrabel and I love may. I think

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01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 13: they need a little help from the Seattle offense. They

1791
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 13: need a Donald thorn An interception, they need to fumble.

1792
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 13: They got the help with the Chargers. Herbert was bad,

1793
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 13: offensive line shout obviously, four interceptions, and stiddred two turnovers,

1794
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 13: and they didn't kick a field goal when they should

1795
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 13: have kicked a field goal. If Seattle plays a at

1796
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,799
Speaker 13: seven to nothing, got to kick that field If Seattle

1797
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 13: goes out there and plays a clean game and you know,

1798
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 13: doesn't like they did against the Rams for instance, I

1799
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 13: don't think this Patriots can beat them. You know, I

1800
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 13: like Seattle getting out of the NFC West. I think

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Speaker 13: Seattle's strength of schedule much better than the Patriots. I

1802
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 13: think the NFC better than the AFC. So from that standpoint,

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Speaker 13: eaven it up. I do think that the Patriots and

1804
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Speaker 13: this point the schedule, well, I mean, I think it's

1805
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Speaker 13: just one game.

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Speaker 3: I agree, but I agree with that you never know

1807
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 3: one game.

1808
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 13: But if they played a ten game series, Seattle will

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01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 13: win at least six.

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01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 3: I would give you seven, that's fair. I would give

1811
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 3: you that, you know, maybe seven.

1812
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Speaker 13: So from that standpoint, it's only one, but you'd like

1813
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 13: to see they would win seventy percent of the time.

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Speaker 3: To spread is four and a half. So as so

1815
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 3: the Patriots, this has gotta.

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Speaker 12: Be one of the three or four times they'd win

1817
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 12: this kind of spot well, And that's the beauty of it, right,

1818
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 12: because like these teams share a lot of similarities, and

1819
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 12: they've also demonstrated some consistency in that Seattle has been

1820
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 12: excellent offensively through their two playoff games they have.

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Speaker 10: The Patriots have not been excellent offensively, but have made

1822
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Speaker 10: some key plays when they had to.

1823
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Speaker 3: They may yep, but.

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Speaker 10: Their defense is playing the best it has all year.

1825
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 10: So one thing is gonna have to meet another. You

1826
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 10: can't be consistent again through this game, especially when you

1827
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 10: don't play a series and you play one game, and

1828
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 10: that's that's the avenue. I think where like you said,

1829
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Speaker 10: Seahawks can make some mistakes and the Patriots can capitalize,

1830
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 10: because that is what they have done that run.

1831
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Speaker 3: And I think you made a great point. The Rams

1832
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 3: defense is bad. Okay, they did not play well.

1833
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Speaker 13: The Niner defense, although patchwork and solid did a very

1834
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 13: good job, it wasn't a great defense all year.

1835
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Speaker 3: The Patriot defense is very underrated.

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Speaker 13: So and Rabel's a good coach, Belichick, he'd do a

1837
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 13: good job devising something. I would think that the receiver,

1838
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 13: you know, Belichick used to think, let me take away

1839
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 13: your number one option, So I think that receiver won't

1840
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 13: go crazy. So I do agree this is the best

1841
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 13: defense that the Seattle offense is going to go up

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Speaker 13: against in a long time. So that is an un

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Speaker 13: that is an unhelded advantage that the Seattle's going up

1844
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 13: The Patriot's gone up against good defenses. Houston good defense,

1845
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 13: Denver good defense, Chargers good defense.

1846
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Speaker 3: Seattle really hasn't gone up against a lot of good defenses.

1847
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 3: That could be something to watch.

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01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: On any unfamiliar one to them too, after playing two

1849
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Speaker 1: division opponents in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you you know you live in the in

1851
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 3: the New York area. I believe you're in Connecticut, Connecticut.

1852
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Speaker 1: You know, see you've watched Sam Donald up close in

1853
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 1: personal for a long time, and I know you know this,

1854
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: but you know, weeks ten to eighteen this year, after

1855
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: a great start, you know he was okay. I wouldn't

1856
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: say you saw the Jets Sam Donald, but you know

1857
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: he wasn't necessarily seeing the field as clearly in the

1858
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: second half of the season.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that old Sam Donald? Why he's in

1860
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 3: there somewhere and they try to get him out. I

1861
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 3: thought it would show up in the RAM game and

1862
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 3: it didn't.

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Speaker 13: But he also played very well second half, especially the

1864
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Speaker 13: fourth quarter on December eighteenth, when they were down thirty

1865
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,480
Speaker 13: to fourteen, and he brought his team back. That was significant.

1866
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Speaker 13: He didn't do anything in week eighteen against San Francisco.

1867
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 13: They didn't need him too. He's thirteen to three. In

1868
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 13: the playoff game against San Francisco, he threw seventeen times

1869
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 13: one hundred and twenty four yards.

1870
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Speaker 3: Now, he didn't make a mistake, but he didn't do

1871
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 3: much in the game.

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Speaker 13: So I agree with all that, but he is He's

1873
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 13: played so well against La albeit not a great defense,

1874
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 13: that I'm gonna basically think going in he'll played pretty well.

1875
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,719
Speaker 13: So but I still think he can turn and anybody

1876
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 13: can turn the ball over, stripsack, fumble, whatever, interception, deflected pass.

1877
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Speaker 3: I think the Patriots are gonna need a play or

1878
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 3: two like that to win the game. Now, tay someing else.

1879
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 3: Don't let this Shaheed kid make a big play.

1880
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 13: He ran to punt back against the Rams, he ran

1881
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 13: to kick going back against San Francisco. First play last

1882
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 13: week against the Rams, he had that fifty one yard

1883
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 13: catch down the right sideline. Don't let him make a

1884
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 13: big play because he's one of those guys. He touched

1885
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 13: the ball five times. He makes two big plays. I

1886
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 13: mean that makes a big difference in the game.

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01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 10: And that Leoni and at that leads you into the

1888
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 10: question of what matters more familiarity or lack thereof, or experience.

1889
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 10: And you look at this Patriots defense and it's a

1890
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 10: blend of young guys and veterans. But who gets taken

1891
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 10: advantage of in plays like that? Who gets caught, you know,

1892
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 10: on a double move and sheheat ends up going deep

1893
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 10: and makes a big play.

1894
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 3: Good.

1895
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 10: But at the same time, does the familiarity lend itself

1896
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 10: to walking Sam Darnold into a situation in which he's

1897
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 10: not familiar with the Patriots defense.

1898
01:22:58,400 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 2: He sees some things that he hasn't seen before.

1899
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 10: Maybe he hasn't been able to prepare for because he

1900
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 10: has not gotten the onfield reps against.

1901
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 2: That right, Ivey, that's the even factory.

1902
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 3: I think you hit him on and I think that

1903
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 3: you made a next one point. I think that Patriot

1904
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 3: defense that's two for such chance. I'll tell you one

1905
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 3: in a second.

1906
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 13: But I do think that Patriot defense is the best

1907
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 13: defense that Seattle has played in a while, and I

1908
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 13: think that is something to keep.

1909
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 3: An eye on.

1910
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,759
Speaker 13: And again, Seattle's playing. The Patriots have played great defenses

1911
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 13: here for four or five weeks.

1912
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 3: Houston was a.

1913
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 13: Great defense that Broncos Patriots scored three points.

1914
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 3: It's a very good defense.

1915
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 13: So that is something that I think is something that

1916
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 13: maybe if you're a Patriot fan, you hope that Donald

1917
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 13: now deep into the pool. Wow, that better than I

1918
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 13: think they're not the Rams, and that something something could

1919
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 13: happen to help the Patriots get that extra possession or two.

1920
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 3: We've only got you for a few minutes. More so,

1921
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 3: there's only one person in the world.

1922
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 1: I want to ask this question about because like me,

1923
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 1: you love football, but you also love a little professional tennis. Yes,

1924
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: And to bring it back around to that, as I

1925
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: always want to do and never am able to do so,

1926
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 1: where Alcarez is in his career, Carlos Alcarez right now,

1927
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 1: Oh here we go. Do you think he's a comparison

1928
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:19,520
Speaker 1: as almost like a tennis Mahomes, Because to me, Mahomes

1929
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: helped us are in this era of NFL football if

1930
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: he sort of pushed the sport forward of what a

1931
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 1: quarterback could do at the highest level. And to me

1932
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 1: that that's kind of where Alcarez is right now. And

1933
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,719
Speaker 1: like Mahomes, I think is going to have a chance

1934
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: to go down more or near the top of it.

1935
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 3: I think he will. I definitely think he will.

1936
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,560
Speaker 13: The thing about Alcorez that you're not sure of is

1937
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 13: the motivation level. He's already won all four majors, he's

1938
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,719
Speaker 13: won seven, He's twenty two years of age.

1939
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 3: You know, Federer was motivated, Djokovic is still motivated. Nadal

1940
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 3: loved to play, you know, loved it.

1941
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 13: I don't know Alcarez well enough where you know he

1942
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 13: gets a little bored so I mean that can happen.

1943
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 13: I think Sinner will always have Alcarez to push him,

1944
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:10,480
Speaker 13: so that would help center.

1945
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 3: Al Qurez, who's gonna push him?

1946
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 13: So I mean, I think that would be the one

1947
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 13: thing I'd ask about al Quarez.

1948
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 3: But he's already got seven.

1949
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 13: He's twenty two years of age. He's equally excellent on

1950
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 13: all the surfaces. He's beaten Djokovic at Wimbledon. He now

1951
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 13: has won three hard courts titles, and we all know

1952
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 13: he's great in the French at the clay, and to

1953
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 13: think about.

1954
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 3: A quest that you like the best. He's fearless. He

1955
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,799
Speaker 3: plays better when his backs to the wall match points.

1956
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 13: Last year against Center down two sets down obviously a

1957
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 13: four to two, and a fifth set to ze Era.

1958
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 10: Of the other day.

1959
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 3: He responds very well in those situations.

1960
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 13: So if he stays motivated and is into it, he's

1961
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 13: twenty two, he's got fifteen more years of plan.

1962
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 3: I mean, he can win. You know, he can win

1963
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 3: thirty majors. Maybe can't Drake.

1964
01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: Maybe May as a comparison, because I feel like May,

1965
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 1: I think the best players in big moments, and I

1966
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 1: know he hasn't had a great playoffs don't play any

1967
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 1: differently in the big moments, and Alchorist to me is

1968
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 1: a very can't be afraid to lose loose player, And

1969
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 1: if anything, I feel like Drake may sometimes a little

1970
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: too loose. He he is not afraid when the pass

1971
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 1: rush is around him. He's almost unaware sometimes, but he's

1972
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 1: gonna go for the if they lose. I think he's

1973
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: gonna go down swinging, and he's gonna go down, maybe

1974
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: making big mistakes, but he's gonna be doing it playing loose,

1975
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: not playing tight.

1976
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 13: He's not not a lot of score tissue right now.

1977
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 13: For may you know, he doesn't have a lot of

1978
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 13: he doesn't have a bad loss. He doesn't have a

1979
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 13: game defining interception, you know, which helps him, and so

1980
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 13: he has that, you don't know how he's gonna respond.

1981
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 3: I could see me playing very well in this game.

1982
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 3: I definitely can, you know.

1983
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,839
Speaker 10: I also like that comparison though, because scar tissue Alcarez

1984
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,879
Speaker 10: doesn't have a lot either, and it doesn't the beautiful

1985
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 10: thing about complacency, the sneaky, beautiful thing. All you gotta

1986
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 10: do is get caught, slip in one time, get beat

1987
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 10: one time, and that fire comes right back.

1988
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 13: I Alchimiz does not have you know, he lost to

1989
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,560
Speaker 13: you know, he lost to obviously Djokovic shit to you

1990
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 13: at the Olympics. See you know he lost to him

1991
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 13: that one year in Cincinnati and was one hundred and

1992
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 13: twenty degrees. He's lost a couple, but for the most part,

1993
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 13: he's excellent in finals. He's played very well against Center.

1994
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 13: You know, he lost Wimbledon to him, but he's played

1995
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 13: very well.

1996
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 3: And may hasn't you know, last year you throw it

1997
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 3: out it was a rookie, they were bad, and this

1998
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 3: year it's been a it's.

1999
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 13: Been a cake walk, easy schedule, hasn't had a hole

2000
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 13: head of a lot to do so and he might

2001
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 13: go into this game a little care free, which is

2002
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 13: what you wanted to do.

2003
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 3: You don't want him to be tight.

2004
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 1: Our producers are gonna kill us for all this tennis talk.

2005
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 1: In the middle of the Super Bowl preview, last question

2006
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 1: for you, longevity, You got the juice dog, like, how

2007
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: do you keep the juice? You talk about like trying

2008
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 1: to be the greatest of all time. You've been on air,

2009
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: you've been talking for the last six hours, you've been

2010
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 1: talking for the last thirty years.

2011
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 3: What is the key forty forty What is the key?

2012
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 3: I didn't want to age, Yeah, what is the key

2013
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 3: to keep in that? Jew love it? If you love it,

2014
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 3: that's the You can't fake it if you love sports.

2015
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 3: And now I was just a kid.

2016
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 13: I was an only child then, you know, so from

2017
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 13: and sports was sort of my brother and I z on.

2018
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 13: My father was not a huge sports fan. Loved the Yankees,

2019
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 13: but he wasn't a huge sports sports fan. And my

2020
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 13: mother's English, so she wasn't a sports fan. But I

2021
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 13: grew up in a sports loved area in Long Island.

2022
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 13: I grew up in a period where the Knicks won

2023
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 13: a championship, the Rangers are pretty good, the Mets won

2024
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 13: a sixty nine World Series.

2025
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 3: Name it with the Jets. So I had all that

2026
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 3: going on.

2027
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 13: It was it surrounded you, and it was just one

2028
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 13: of those things that you know, I always got a

2029
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 13: kick out of it, and I gifted the gamp and

2030
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 13: I always had a kick out of it. So you're right,

2031
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 13: there's gonna be a point where the fuel is gonna

2032
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 13: run out, But right now.

2033
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 3: The tank is still there's still gas in the tank.

2034
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 3: Let's put it that way.

2035
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: More more than just gassing the tank. I love having

2036
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: mad Dog on the show. Of course from Serious XM

2037
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 1: Radio mad Dog Radio. Uh and first take on ESPN.

2038
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: Thanks again, you.

2039
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 3: Guys are the best. Keep it up, appreciation it, Thank you.

2040
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 9: All right.

2041
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 3: That was mad Dog. Great job with him, Nick, great

2042
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 3: job with Garat Bowles.

2043
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 1: Jordan, we're getting out of here, and we're getting out

2044
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: of here with our heads intact, which your dream indicated

2045
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 1: was not gonna happened.

2046
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 3: What a dark dream, Jordan happened?

2047
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 5: Oh it was horrible. I woke up in a cold sweat.

2048
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 5: It's one of those things. I mean, I know you

2049
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 5: guys are the same way.

2050
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 4: Where were you panic Like before flight, for example, and

2051
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 4: you just jolt awake thinking I'm gonna miss the flight.

2052
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna miss the flight.

2053
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 5: Well, you know, got a.

2054
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 4: Really reasonable bedtime after the first night we were here.

2055
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 6: Kept jolting awake, first because I was worried I was

2056
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 6: gonna be late to something, and then once I finally

2057
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 6: got back to sleep, I had this vivid, horrible dream

2058
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 6: that anytime either of us would repeat each other's answer

2059
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,799
Speaker 6: or say something that we'd already said, even on another

2060
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:56,560
Speaker 6: show previous week, we would be injured and like it

2061
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:57,719
Speaker 6: just it maimed.

2062
01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I thought you said we took a headshot.

2063
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 3: How there it is?

2064
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 6: No, I took a headshot with the from the hydro flask.

2065
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 6: But first the first nights fascinating. No, and it's and

2066
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 6: it was vivid, and I woke up in a cold

2067
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 6: sweat and it was.

2068
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 4: It was awful. Yeah, it was to know how I

2069
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 4: was injured.

2070
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 3: Although you know what me caps, I like the story

2071
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 3: was like incredibly dark.

2072
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that pales in comparison to my book to Nightmare.

2073
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 10: My first year working in the newsroom in LA I

2074
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 10: woke up in the in the hallucination dream thinking my

2075
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 10: bed was in the newsroom.

2076
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 2: And Eally was yelling at Oh.

2077
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 6: Isn't that the worst when you have like a vivid

2078
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 6: dream like that and you spend like five minutes thinking

2079
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 6: that it was actually real and then being horrified by

2080
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 6: it getting you know.

2081
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 3: Working with you guys, that's the real dream. We're here

2082
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 3: is this? Can you even call us work? It's like, hey,

2083
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 3: we're just talking about football?

2084
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 2: Else would you rather be?

2085
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 3: Great? Show? Really enjoyed.

2086
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 1: All our guests are going to have some big names

2087
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 1: coming up on Friday, including Kyle Hamilton is going to

2088
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 1: be on the show, Christian Watson of the Green Bay

2089
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:03,799
Speaker 1: Packers and many more, so looking.

2090
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,439
Speaker 3: Forward to that. We'll also talk a little bit about

2091
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 3: the Honors winners.

2092
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 1: We'll find out who the MVP and all the awards,

2093
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 1: who gets him tonight at Honors. But until then, let's

2094
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 1: get out of here from Radio Row, where the buzz

2095
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 1: has not died down.

2096
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 6: But you know what positive progress today as you're not

2097
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 6: saying something incredibly serious as the dog is doing flips

2098
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 6: behind you, I'm.

2099
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 1: Not, but you reminded me rip Chris Westley. We had

2100
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,640
Speaker 1: a show in the feed me talking about Chris. But

2101
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 1: five years to the day, we remember you, we love you.

2102
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:39,640
Speaker 3: We'll see you next night.