WEBVTT - A Thousand Horses 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:16.239 Carala. She's a queen of talking. He was sown. She's 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:20.160 only side. You got the scoop on on the on side. 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:29.760 No one can do with clid my Carala, Carola, No 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:36.680 one can do within Cli Carali Carola. Hey, y'all, welcome 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:39.800 to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.519 I know music, I know people, and I know the 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:47.040 questions you want to ask. So let's get Hyper heads up. 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.760 These are adults having adult conversations, so there could be 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:55.400 adult content this episode. I have a thousand horses joining me, 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.000 and I'm so stoked they're here. They had a big 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.040 hit last year called Smoke. They're on tour currently with 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.960 Jason al Dean and they're basically a band of brothers. 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.200 They've been friends since they were just kids, and I 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:08.280 happen to be married to the lead singer. So I'm 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.559 so excited to welcome a thousand horses to the show. 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:17.319 I'm here, I'm here with the chasing horses. Don't look 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:22.800 at my questions, Bill, don't many questions? Do I tweeting? 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:27.640 I'm cheating? Don't tweet tweeting cheating? So you guys get that, Like, 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:31.520 here comes the champage. Here comes the herd of horses. 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:35.120 Here stamped a lot Kessie ballerin. He said that she 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:40.679 snapchatted us, she called Bibbs. Who did she call DIBs on? 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.720 And then well we got snapchatting on the snapchat horse train. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:47.160 She got us walking down there. We looked pretty good. Yeah, 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:52.280 I mean pretty horse. That's pretty regular. So what are 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:56.600 their usuals? I mean, that's too many horses. Where's the 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:02.040 other nine? A long face always, you're gonna really stick 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:06.280 this place up with swe How are you going to 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:13.480 fit all those horses on stage? Called a thousand cowboys? Butever, yeah, 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.480 this is before anything. We're opening up for Kitmore in 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:22.400 Boston and huge show. Great night for us because it 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:24.920 was a shipload of people and it was like a 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.919 big i mean just sold out and we're like, yeah, 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.720 high five and in the radio we're DJ whatever from 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.000 the whatever the show was. When I'm there and said, 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.200 y'all give it that that for a thousand cowboys and we 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:41.240 were like from the crowd. The crowd they got, which 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:45.800 I was like, yeah, Boston, move this man. Okay, so 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.160 we're with a thousand horses and yeah, you can cuss. 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.720 This is a podcast. So say all the cusser do 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.959 you want to do right now? I don't want to know. 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:57.560 I usually I don't really take that. That's a straight 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.760 late sky in the I don't. I don't try to 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.040 sell right. Do you know you don't have any own 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:05.720 then to come out you you don't have to celebrate 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.280 you want to celebrate it, frank, Okay, I want to 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.679 start off with a little bit of some games. I can't. 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.000 I can't hope. You cannot look like a TV on 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.360 a bar for me. I just like dude to it. Okay, 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.160 if you could have one thing forever in an unlimited amount, 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:29.600 what would it be? Money? Cash, cold hard cash. You 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.880 didn't even hesitate. I could saw you know you can. 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:34.920 You can do a lot of things, but unlimited money. 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:36.880 I'll take wishes from a g D because that's something 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.640 better than one. Good is that if something money can, 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:46.960 I could buy your genie magical and magical wishes from 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.320 a genie. You could wish for like to do it fly. 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.600 I would want a starship to take me all over 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.240 the universe. You'd have an unlimited but you would need 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:59.120 my unlimited money supply to make or I could just 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.040 get a gen into I can just like but Zach 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.160 could grant grant. He could grant Graham a wish from 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.000 his genie so he could fly. And I would just say, 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.200 on your cash, because Jack's got a gene Also, I 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:13.320 can take all your wishes with my Genie. Actually, what 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.200 do you think this is the genie trump card? Okay, Genie, 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.680 though you could wish for unlimited money, I would say yeah. 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.920 I would say unlimited wishes from Genie would be the 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:23.760 old Okay, and I'm starting to shoot holes in this time. 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.600 I don't think I can tark is leaking wishes from yes, 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.800 only a psychopath and think of that. That's cool, it's great, 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:38.480 that's cool, it's good. Okay. Boxers are briefs. Definitely boxer briefs, 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.880 that boxer breefe. So take them combined them by them? 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:42.760 Will they make a hybrid? Now it's called a trunk. 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:45.839 Is that is that what I'm wearing. It's definitely holding 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.960 the trunk and how they do a boxer breefe. Oh 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:52.920 my gosh, it's similar to eight boxer brief It's just 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.560 you know, there's always bunch of leg I think I 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.400 can say too, I might be one of the only 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.320 women who have seen all of y'all in your underwear. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.960 You're the only interview we've done. Where are you? I 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.760 don't seen this literally, don't have to be nervous and 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.599 pictures because I know exactly what that looks like. You 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.960 know exactly what kind of where I do. I watched 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:19.800 your underwear. I'm married to Michael. Pretty listening. We're married, 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.480 but we're taking this serious. We are because I was 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.880 gonna ask you, are you you know, cooking up on 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.920 the road. Yeah, all the time when my wife's out 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:38.000 hooking up and yeah, barking up, hooking up people with 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:42.080 other people. Yeah, people with tickets all the time, people 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.080 up with tickets. So a lot of hook ups. It's 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.120 not what one would think. Yeah, have any of your 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:54.280 offen to jail? You to jail? What? Absolutely? How did 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.479 I missed this story? Well? I went to jail. I 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.160 went to the Atlanta City jail for a nw yousca. 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.799 There was that fine fun. Oh it was great. Yeah, 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:08.880 I mean it was great. It was I didn't you know, 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.839 I didn't really do anything. So I was there and 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:14.760 I was like, it's gonna be fine because I didn't 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:16.680 really do anything. So why did you go to jail. 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.520 It's a long story. I got jumped by a club 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:25.320 owner at after a show we played and they got 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.200 out of hand. They had the things got out of hand. 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.560 We had the big band fight with the bartenders in 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:33.240 the club. This yeah, before this is it sounds like 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:35.520 a scene from a movie. It was, it was. This 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.640 also sounds like a likely story. She tapped to coke 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:43.400 bottles together too. Yeah. Absolutely. They ran and got their 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.680 in house cops, so he was on their payroll and 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.240 he said, hey, this guy heavy and they took me 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:52.320 to jail. Did you hit him first? He jumped on 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.880 me and I threw him on the ground, like, didn't 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.039 you have to go to but you got arrested in 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:02.760 floor to see. Well, that's a different you've been one 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.240 of than I went to jail and Mike without my 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.640 shirt on to the Atlanta City jail. It was awesome. 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:10.040 That's pretty rough. No, I didn't. But when I walked 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.960 around the corner of the entire room of like Pete, 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:14.760 there was like three hundred dudes in there, and they go, 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.880 rus So, what do you do? Oh? They thought they 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:22.200 were to call me Russell brand oh here at the time, 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:26.440 and it was Russell what did you brand? They were like, rus, So, 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:30.560 what do you do? Man? Oh the freaked out that's 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.200 kind of awesome. Jail. I've never seen that you got 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.520 a tattooed? What was someone? I always want? I was 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:44.040 curious about something. I was always I'm not curious. I was. 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:45.880 I was a little taken aback because the cops were 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.280 treating me like a criminal, and I was like, why 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.200 are you treating me like a criminal? Man, I'm just like, 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:51.840 what kind of know why I'm in here? I'm just 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:53.960 a long asshole. It's not supposed to be in here. 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.680 Someone's gonna come get you soon. This is not where 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.640 I think had breakfast there. They gave me a blowny 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.800 sandwich and an apple sauce, a jail food. Yeah, that's 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:05.360 pretty He was getting into his role. So by that 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:06.960 point I was like starting to accept. I'm like, well, 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.520 I'm just in jail now. I'm like, I'm here. I'm 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.000 just like, did they did they give you a shirt 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.520 to put our making friends? Did you stay topless? They 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.360 gave me a hospital account to put on. So I 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.600 was a real psychopath and that might have worked. Be 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.600 in your favorite Actually that you looked like a real 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.680 crazy person I went up next to, like the biggest 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:23.960 guy I could find. It was all he was all 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.440 bloody and he was like I punched the Kings of 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:36.640 Leon concert Man was all right, cool, I'm crazy. I 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:37.960 don't miss with me. You don't even want to know 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:39.640 what I did. So you're glad you got it off 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:41.679 your buck list. Yeah, exactly is. I got it off 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:45.319 my book he list. I don't need to do it again. Okay, okay, 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.079 if you guys had someone film a movie about a 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:53.760 thousand horses, who would play off? You can speak for 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.760 each other too, Rad Pit obviously, Brad Pitt, my grandpa 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.920 would be. I think Leo for you, Leo to Catherine 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.440 be Greg great big fans of both. Yeah, clearly Russell 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.920 Brand for you, Zack. Jason Lee is gonna have to 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.120 play Yeah that's true. Or Dave Girl but he's not 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.840 an actor. Yeah, just get Jason Lee and his almost 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:15.600 famous character. Just do that all over again to what's 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:19.760 the guy? What's the guy did you build the home? Uh? Honey, 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:26.760 our shunk kids? What's his name? The dad? I was 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:29.760 gonna say, Jason Startzman. Actually he'd be good, Yeah, he'd 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.839 be good'd be really good Jason will be a great 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:39.000 met have the rock makes sense? That makes sense, makes sense? 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:46.720 You would get who would be Zack? See Miles Taylor 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.560 could be a good Zack. Who's most teller? The guy 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:54.719 from foot Loose and Bash? Okay, we just go with 0:09:54.800 --> 0:10:00.319 John Stamos. You'll be six John, Uncle, Jesse, j Messie. 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:04.920 I'm really excited about the new full House too. It's Netflix. 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.960 You guys have did a little videos on your Instagram 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:12.559 about this. I want to do it on my podcast. 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.000 Tell me the first thing. Don't repeat what you said 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:16.880 on the Instagram. Tell me the first thing that comes 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:21.400 to mind about each band member. Everyone? Do you build first? Messi? Messi? 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:30.000 The first word that comes to mind about Michael? I 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:40.880 don't know, come wordless Martini? Martini? Michael start calling you 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:46.480 know Martini, Mike, it's a bad nickname. Actually, all right, 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:52.200 what about Graham? Don't even say what Martini? That's it Martini. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.400 Let's see what else we That is my word. I 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.640 don't know exactly I'm doing. It's because that one of Martini. 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:02.400 Right now? What we are in bom Yeah, the bowl 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:07.160 of you're a hat guy, Think about a hat Martini. 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:11.040 They're gonna be a hat, Martini hat, tiny hat, Mike, 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:17.000 I remember what I said. I don't either. He said 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.880 he like the party. No, we said he liked a party. 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:26.320 Power powerful Michael, You're powerful. Thanks. Guys like so much 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:38.840 drunk hat powerful guy. Let's boy bringing on China. Graham 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:44.960 is like a He's like a docile creature that lives 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.199 in the woods. Okay, okay, live in the woods. I'm 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.040 like alf or something. I like that. That sounds magical. 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.400 I think bear, which a bear lives in the woods, 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.520 like you're you're at we're woods. Yeah, I should we 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.959 start calling you win outdoors a kind of guy. You wood, 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:02.880 I'm kind of furry, and you're kind of like a 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:06.120 dog whispering Martini Mike woods nasty we go. Okay, what 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:10.120 we got for Zack? I would say, like maniac, that's 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:17.400 a good word, not a bad way. Yeah. Hawk all 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:27.040 seeing us really but really aggressive. Okay, So you guys 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.680 just got a whole new slew of nicknames. True. Okay, 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.720 So let's start with the band. Y'all formed a thousand 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:36.600 horses and two ten two tiny and you have been 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.600 playing advan since your kid kids, I know, Bill and Graham, 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.680 y'all our first cousins. We are and Michael and Bill. 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.480 You guys were up in a Newberry together. So in Zach, 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.560 you're in Atlanta. You came on board a little bit later. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.840 How did you three get together and decide you're gonna 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.160 do music? Because it happened early on. Bill and I 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.640 met a music store and we would just meet there. 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.160 There's nothing else to do in our town, so we'd 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:04.120 meet there every day and us played every guitar in 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.400 the place and trying to teach. I mean, we would. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.040 We were learning guitar at the same time. So that's 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.560 how we our musical relationships started. And then Graham would 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.439 come up every summer. He was into music, so we 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.240 would sit in steel beers out of Bill's dad's refrigerator. 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:28.120 OBUs that fridge keeps the coldest, the coldest. It's from 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.960 the seventies and they made him different back then. It's 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.840 literally been running for since the seventies. But you know, 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.000 so we would we would listen to records and play 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.559 music together then and then uh build I move in 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.600 Nashville in two five. Graham moved in two thousand six. 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.800 We met Zack in two thousand ten through a mutual 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.840 friend and that's when we formed a thousand horses. So 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.480 why Nashville over l A? Did you guys started off 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.840 more like Southern rock ish at Southern rock Country. I'm 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:02.360 still Southern rock. Well I think that Nashville, you know. 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:06.560 Still it was closer to home than l A. Yeah 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:10.320 you know I said that helped. Yeah. Um, And we 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.600 met a guy who wanted to record it. So that's 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:13.959 why we came to town. And Bill and I just 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:15.240 came to town. We thought we were gonna be here 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.480 for a month, and you know, ten years later, I'm 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:19.920 still here. And you guys skipped on college. I'll send 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:21.400 a piece out. You got out of high So didn't 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.400 you like graduate high school from Nashville or something? Yeah, well, 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.080 I finished high school with the internet. I was an 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:32.360 amazing student, so I had very high grades and they 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.480 just you know, I just finished high school with internet. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.000 It's all good again. And Michael, you sweet talked your 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.560 way through a passing high high school, didn't You may 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:46.320 have been persuasive? Yeah, oh yeah, okay, So then I'll 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.840 scooped him Zack. Scooped up Zack and ice cream skip 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:54.640 him up. You're the cherry on top. I'm like what 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.800 happened once you offer got together? Well, we went to 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.560 Los Angeles together to make an EP because were signing 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.400 the Interscope at the time. It's our first record deal. 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:04.320 And that's around that Dave Cobb, And that's where we 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:09.360 met Dave Cobb, who's uh now he's on fire ch 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.080 this week for a Grammy. Yeah, so you guys start 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:16.080 the horses start at his trend. I'd like I'd like 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:21.960 to say that we gave him a jump starm, but yeah, 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:23.560 and we actually that's how we got to know each 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.400 other as by living together in a hotel in Los 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.000 Angeles for three or four weeks and yeah, drafted on 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:37.280 graft and some martinis and a couple of tequila sunrises. Yeah. 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.000 During that time, y'all had a song and the movie Footless. 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.680 We did suicide Eyes in the movie Footloose, which was 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:48.520 a big win. Yeah, that was cool. Go to a 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.120 movie premier. Those are only still early movie and we 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:56.440 need more movies. Team. I don't even we got the 0:15:56.440 --> 0:16:00.000 theme song for Gainesville. We didn't get to go with it. Okay, 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:05.440 I've never even been to Gamesman. C MT needs to 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:08.680 fly me to games justices. See, you guys are on 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.160 the road for a long time, like in a van. 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.320 Oh yeah, what did that look like? How long? And 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:20.080 what it was? Van life like like my body still 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:25.840 remains it was it was equally as much fun as 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:31.480 it was like grueling ruling, where yeah it was all funny. 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.520 We were sleeping like it was a dead winter in 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.880 Toronto and we were all sleeping in the van like 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.000 on the street. I mean there's like people on us 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.920 like party and all night and on the floor because 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.760 the f when it was cold, the floor would get hot. 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.400 You couldn't even afford a hotel. No not Sometimes the 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:52.800 first tour for a hundred dollars a night dollars Taylor 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:56.360 Mobson the pretty Reckless reckless and they were super awesome. 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.200 They were then helps out because they would give us 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.240 like their bus driver's room. So we'd like, you've been 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:04.359 a dirty bed whatever, but you know, it's a hundred 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.080 dollars and I don't even know how we did it. 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:13.280 We would eat whatever they after the year. Um, there 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:14.800 was a time that I mean, I do remember the 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:16.160 time in my life that was like when we were 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:20.240 like willingly like eat off of the people's place. You 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:23.320 finish that saying actually true and if we got a 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.119 hotel room, which we always got, we would get their 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.119 bus driver's hotel room, which was super cool them to 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.600 give us. And it's just one big king bed, so 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.520 like three of us would sleep in a bed exact 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.960 would sleep on the floor another and we just take 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.719 the sheets off of the bed and just sleep on 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.280 the naked mattress, which is almost worse. That's almost worse. 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:46.240 There's there's bed bugs and mines and stuff. Oh yeah, 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.639 we lived. What do they say of bed gains, like 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:50.880 ten pounds a years or a pound a year because 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.680 it's your all, your skin and stuff, so your mattress 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.400 gets here. So think about how gross those matches are 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.680 with all those different people, you know, a lot. We 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:01.680 we also like came up with a lot of ideas 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:05.920 in that van, Like being in that place was motivating 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.520 to be in a better place. So you're always i 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.960 mean it's almost like a think tank. Every day. Yeah 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.880 you trapped Foresight, you're driving Space and yeah you're driving 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:18.359 to you know, five to ten hours every day you talk. 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:20.640 We never listened to the radio. We always just talked 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:24.439 because the radio didn't work. The radio didn't work. Now 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:28.680 we had the radio worked, you ever had one speaker, 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:33.520 one speaker on the drunk forward to fix it. So 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:38.080 we're like ship, all right, this was a pretty iPhone too, No, 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:42.840 we had my phone would not. This is before the 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:46.680 wheel was invented. Else. The funny thing about the van 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.560 is we um so before we got signed. So taking 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:54.840 eighty four you have to record deals, is that what 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.439 you're talking about. We got some of the big machine. 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.040 This was like three years ago. We we went in 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:01.479 with Dave and we were like, Dave, let's you know. 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:03.960 We we had we had been you know, we've gotten 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.639 Cia to book us, and we had managers and we're like, 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:11.120 let's go and we've got these awesome new songs and like, 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:13.200 you know, a few people that didn't know us were 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.960 like music and we're digging the new songs live. So 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.080 we're like, let's just put out another EP down. We 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.280 can come up with ten grand and fifteen year or 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:21.800 whatever it costs to make this whole thing. We did 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:25.000 a kick storder and uh yeah, we did a kick 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.119 We did a kick one of the This is after that. 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.359 After remember when we got in the van. Yeah, the man, 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:32.199 We're like, we gotta make a record. So we were 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.200 like how much money would it take to make an album? 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.360 And Dave was like, well, I don't really even give 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.920 a ship, just pay for yours. No, he did it 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.919 for much, pay for a keyboard player to come in, 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:45.119 and like, um, so we were on the phone. I 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.240 never forget. We started the album at Dave's house and 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.399 we were between takes. We would be on the phone 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.760 with credit card companies, all of us trying, yeah, like 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.719 five thousand dollars here, and like Zach was like our 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:00.960 big bank, We're like computer to get the big one 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:07.000 because because of yours. But they told him no, it's 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.120 just like they told us. So we finally getting approved 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:14.520 enough for a little bit of money cash from the bank, 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.199 and then our manager was like, well I'll throw it 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:21.800 in with you. So we come together with this money, 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:26.320 make this album, getting ready to pump it out. It's mastered. 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:30.800 Then our manager, Big Machine, heard it and signed us, 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:32.440 so you guys are going to put it out independently. 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.320 We our goal was like we can sell two thousand 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:37.840 copies of this thing and make our money back, you know, 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:39.520 in a year. Like we can't do that in a year, 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:41.760 and then we gotta you know, hand to hand, just 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:46.040 just rocking it. Yeah, and we had tours. Sea was 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:47.720 keeping us out on the road, so that was another 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:49.919 great thing, is like we had dates in front of us, 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:53.840 no intention of getting a record obviously actually trying. I mean, no, 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.000 we wanted to put like we were like, you know, 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.880 our goals, you know, two thousand copies, we pay everything back, 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:03.560 everything after that that's still in the band, you know, 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:07.760 and we went out and then yeah, that that that 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.000 decision to make an album is why we have a 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:13.000 record deal and why we are where we are right now. 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:14.919 And that's kind of a big decision because a lot 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:17.000 of people are scared to do an independent album. A 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:18.880 lot of people are scared not to have a big 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:21.080 label behind that I'm trying to say, and that like 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:28.920 the band, as always, we've figured out that the the 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:32.800 it's it's best just to do what you think is natural. 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:34.679 And like, yeah, we were like, well we have to 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:36.680 have music, let's just put it out. I mean, what's 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:40.800 it gonna hurt? Yeah, yeah exactly, I mean what yeah, Okay, 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:44.280 It's just honestly, it's a fearless mentality because you mean, 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:45.960 you're right, a lot of a lot of people don't 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:48.440 want to take that risk to be in a financial 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:51.000 crunch or a situation. But we've never really thought that way. 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:53.240 We've always been like, how can we move them forward? 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:55.399 When you can make a hundred dollars a night work, 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:58.600 you can make anything works, you know what I mean 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:00.520 when it comes to being out on the roads. So 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.199 and we knew we were just like just doing nothing right. 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:06.120 You gotta do things with your life. With your life, 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:07.879 you're sitting around way, we don't know any how to 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:11.080 do anything else. So like what I mean, Like I'd 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.080 worked for Zach to make extra side money in his 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:16.320 photo these you have a photo company, Yeah, I started 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:20.360 a photo with the company ZA so I could play 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:23.879 your pants I started. I was like, one be on 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:25.959 the road and play music and not have to get 0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:28.760 at nine five yeah, exactly have enough money to eat. 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.960 I was Dave's like for a while. Yeah, Daves like 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:35.720 studio rat studio. Yeah. I was basically like going and 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:37.600 he'd be like, hey, call me for like, for instance, 0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:40.200 like I did the Jayson Vizibol Like I was like 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:44.919 the runner or assistant or whatever guy Jason record the 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:47.639 Jayson Nisible record Southeastern That's kind of awesome. Yeah. He 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:50.960 was like just coming and like you know in the bathrooms, 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:53.880 like bring breakfast in the morning and like get their 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.440 lunch orders. Like I remember I went picked up like 0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:59.080 Jason's tucks for his wedding and like really yeah re 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:03.160 strong guitar. And then I would like when they were recording, 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:05.280 I would go in there and like watch him from 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.560 the control room. It was amazingment. So you saw the album, Yeah, 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:09.960 he's in the credit. I didn't see all of that. 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.879