Speaker 1: Carala. She's a queen of talking. He was sown. She's
Speaker 1: only side. You got the scoop on on the on side.
Speaker 1: No one can do with clid my Carala, Carola, No
Speaker 1: one can do within Cli Carali Carola. Hey, y'all, welcome
Speaker 1: to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby.
Speaker 1: I know music, I know people, and I know the
Speaker 1: questions you want to ask. So let's get Hyper heads up.
Speaker 1: These are adults having adult conversations, so there could be
Speaker 1: adult content this episode. I have a thousand horses joining me,
Speaker 1: and I'm so stoked they're here. They had a big
Speaker 1: hit last year called Smoke. They're on tour currently with
Speaker 1: Jason al Dean and they're basically a band of brothers.
Speaker 1: They've been friends since they were just kids, and I
Speaker 1: happen to be married to the lead singer. So I'm
Speaker 1: so excited to welcome a thousand horses to the show.
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here with the chasing horses. Don't look
Speaker 1: at my questions, Bill, don't many questions? Do I tweeting?
Speaker 1: I'm cheating? Don't tweet tweeting cheating? So you guys get that, Like,
Speaker 1: here comes the champage. Here comes the herd of horses.
Speaker 1: Here stamped a lot Kessie ballerin. He said that she
Speaker 1: snapchatted us, she called Bibbs. Who did she call DIBs on?
Speaker 1: And then well we got snapchatting on the snapchat horse train.
Speaker 1: She got us walking down there. We looked pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean pretty horse. That's pretty regular. So what are
Speaker 1: their usuals? I mean, that's too many horses. Where's the
Speaker 1: other nine? A long face always, you're gonna really stick
Speaker 1: this place up with swe How are you going to
Speaker 1: fit all those horses on stage? Called a thousand cowboys? Butever, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is before anything. We're opening up for Kitmore in
Speaker 1: Boston and huge show. Great night for us because it
Speaker 1: was a shipload of people and it was like a
Speaker 1: big i mean just sold out and we're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: high five and in the radio we're DJ whatever from
Speaker 1: the whatever the show was. When I'm there and said,
Speaker 1: y'all give it that that for a thousand cowboys and we
Speaker 1: were like from the crowd. The crowd they got, which
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, Boston, move this man. Okay, so
Speaker 1: we're with a thousand horses and yeah, you can cuss.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast. So say all the cusser do
Speaker 1: you want to do right now? I don't want to know.
Speaker 1: I usually I don't really take that. That's a straight
Speaker 1: late sky in the I don't. I don't try to
Speaker 1: sell right. Do you know you don't have any own
Speaker 1: then to come out you you don't have to celebrate
Speaker 1: you want to celebrate it, frank, Okay, I want to
Speaker 1: start off with a little bit of some games. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't hope. You cannot look like a TV on
Speaker 1: a bar for me. I just like dude to it. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you could have one thing forever in an unlimited amount,
Speaker 1: what would it be? Money? Cash, cold hard cash. You
Speaker 1: didn't even hesitate. I could saw you know you can.
Speaker 1: You can do a lot of things, but unlimited money.
Speaker 1: I'll take wishes from a g D because that's something
Speaker 1: better than one. Good is that if something money can,
Speaker 1: I could buy your genie magical and magical wishes from
Speaker 1: a genie. You could wish for like to do it fly.
Speaker 1: I would want a starship to take me all over
Speaker 1: the universe. You'd have an unlimited but you would need
Speaker 1: my unlimited money supply to make or I could just
Speaker 1: get a gen into I can just like but Zach
Speaker 1: could grant grant. He could grant Graham a wish from
Speaker 1: his genie so he could fly. And I would just say,
Speaker 1: on your cash, because Jack's got a gene Also, I
Speaker 1: can take all your wishes with my Genie. Actually, what
Speaker 1: do you think this is the genie trump card? Okay, Genie,
Speaker 1: though you could wish for unlimited money, I would say yeah.
Speaker 1: I would say unlimited wishes from Genie would be the
Speaker 1: old Okay, and I'm starting to shoot holes in this time.
Speaker 1: I don't think I can tark is leaking wishes from yes,
Speaker 1: only a psychopath and think of that. That's cool, it's great,
Speaker 1: that's cool, it's good. Okay. Boxers are briefs. Definitely boxer briefs,
Speaker 1: that boxer breefe. So take them combined them by them?
Speaker 1: Will they make a hybrid? Now it's called a trunk.
Speaker 1: Is that is that what I'm wearing. It's definitely holding
Speaker 1: the trunk and how they do a boxer breefe. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, it's similar to eight boxer brief It's just
Speaker 1: you know, there's always bunch of leg I think I
Speaker 1: can say too, I might be one of the only
Speaker 1: women who have seen all of y'all in your underwear.
Speaker 1: You're the only interview we've done. Where are you? I
Speaker 1: don't seen this literally, don't have to be nervous and
Speaker 1: pictures because I know exactly what that looks like. You
Speaker 1: know exactly what kind of where I do. I watched
Speaker 1: your underwear. I'm married to Michael. Pretty listening. We're married,
Speaker 1: but we're taking this serious. We are because I was
Speaker 1: gonna ask you, are you you know, cooking up on
Speaker 1: the road. Yeah, all the time when my wife's out
Speaker 1: hooking up and yeah, barking up, hooking up people with
Speaker 1: other people. Yeah, people with tickets all the time, people
Speaker 1: up with tickets. So a lot of hook ups. It's
Speaker 1: not what one would think. Yeah, have any of your
Speaker 1: offen to jail? You to jail? What? Absolutely? How did
Speaker 1: I missed this story? Well? I went to jail. I
Speaker 1: went to the Atlanta City jail for a nw yousca.
Speaker 1: There was that fine fun. Oh it was great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was great. It was I didn't you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't really do anything. So I was there and
Speaker 1: I was like, it's gonna be fine because I didn't
Speaker 1: really do anything. So why did you go to jail.
Speaker 1: It's a long story. I got jumped by a club
Speaker 1: owner at after a show we played and they got
Speaker 1: out of hand. They had the things got out of hand.
Speaker 1: We had the big band fight with the bartenders in
Speaker 1: the club. This yeah, before this is it sounds like
Speaker 1: a scene from a movie. It was, it was. This
Speaker 1: also sounds like a likely story. She tapped to coke
Speaker 1: bottles together too. Yeah. Absolutely. They ran and got their
Speaker 1: in house cops, so he was on their payroll and
Speaker 1: he said, hey, this guy heavy and they took me
Speaker 1: to jail. Did you hit him first? He jumped on
Speaker 1: me and I threw him on the ground, like, didn't
Speaker 1: you have to go to but you got arrested in
Speaker 1: floor to see. Well, that's a different you've been one
Speaker 1: of than I went to jail and Mike without my
Speaker 1: shirt on to the Atlanta City jail. It was awesome.
Speaker 1: That's pretty rough. No, I didn't. But when I walked
Speaker 1: around the corner of the entire room of like Pete,
Speaker 1: there was like three hundred dudes in there, and they go,
Speaker 1: rus So, what do you do? Oh? They thought they
Speaker 1: were to call me Russell brand oh here at the time,
Speaker 1: and it was Russell what did you brand? They were like, rus, So,
Speaker 1: what do you do? Man? Oh the freaked out that's
Speaker 1: kind of awesome. Jail. I've never seen that you got
Speaker 1: a tattooed? What was someone? I always want? I was
Speaker 1: curious about something. I was always I'm not curious. I was.
Speaker 1: I was a little taken aback because the cops were
Speaker 1: treating me like a criminal, and I was like, why
Speaker 1: are you treating me like a criminal? Man, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: what kind of know why I'm in here? I'm just
Speaker 1: a long asshole. It's not supposed to be in here.
Speaker 1: Someone's gonna come get you soon. This is not where
Speaker 1: I think had breakfast there. They gave me a blowny
Speaker 1: sandwich and an apple sauce, a jail food. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: pretty He was getting into his role. So by that
Speaker 1: point I was like starting to accept. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm just in jail now. I'm like, I'm here. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, did they did they give you a shirt
Speaker 1: to put our making friends? Did you stay topless? They
Speaker 1: gave me a hospital account to put on. So I
Speaker 1: was a real psychopath and that might have worked. Be
Speaker 1: in your favorite Actually that you looked like a real
Speaker 1: crazy person I went up next to, like the biggest
Speaker 1: guy I could find. It was all he was all
Speaker 1: bloody and he was like I punched the Kings of
Speaker 1: Leon concert Man was all right, cool, I'm crazy. I
Speaker 1: don't miss with me. You don't even want to know
Speaker 1: what I did. So you're glad you got it off
Speaker 1: your buck list. Yeah, exactly is. I got it off
Speaker 1: my book he list. I don't need to do it again. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: if you guys had someone film a movie about a
Speaker 1: thousand horses, who would play off? You can speak for
Speaker 1: each other too, Rad Pit obviously, Brad Pitt, my grandpa
Speaker 1: would be. I think Leo for you, Leo to Catherine
Speaker 1: be Greg great big fans of both. Yeah, clearly Russell
Speaker 1: Brand for you, Zack. Jason Lee is gonna have to
Speaker 1: play Yeah that's true. Or Dave Girl but he's not
Speaker 1: an actor. Yeah, just get Jason Lee and his almost
Speaker 1: famous character. Just do that all over again to what's
Speaker 1: the guy? What's the guy did you build the home? Uh? Honey,
Speaker 1: our shunk kids? What's his name? The dad? I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, Jason Startzman. Actually he'd be good, Yeah, he'd
Speaker 1: be good'd be really good Jason will be a great
Speaker 1: met have the rock makes sense? That makes sense, makes sense?
Speaker 1: You would get who would be Zack? See Miles Taylor
Speaker 1: could be a good Zack. Who's most teller? The guy
Speaker 1: from foot Loose and Bash? Okay, we just go with
Speaker 1: John Stamos. You'll be six John, Uncle, Jesse, j Messie.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about the new full House too. It's Netflix.
Speaker 1: You guys have did a little videos on your Instagram
Speaker 1: about this. I want to do it on my podcast.
Speaker 1: Tell me the first thing. Don't repeat what you said
Speaker 1: on the Instagram. Tell me the first thing that comes
Speaker 1: to mind about each band member. Everyone? Do you build first? Messi? Messi?
Speaker 1: The first word that comes to mind about Michael? I
Speaker 1: don't know, come wordless Martini? Martini? Michael start calling you
Speaker 1: know Martini, Mike, it's a bad nickname. Actually, all right,
Speaker 1: what about Graham? Don't even say what Martini? That's it Martini.
Speaker 1: Let's see what else we That is my word. I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly I'm doing. It's because that one of Martini.
Speaker 1: Right now? What we are in bom Yeah, the bowl
Speaker 1: of you're a hat guy, Think about a hat Martini.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be a hat, Martini hat, tiny hat, Mike,
Speaker 1: I remember what I said. I don't either. He said
Speaker 1: he like the party. No, we said he liked a party.
Speaker 1: Power powerful Michael, You're powerful. Thanks. Guys like so much
Speaker 1: drunk hat powerful guy. Let's boy bringing on China. Graham
Speaker 1: is like a He's like a docile creature that lives
Speaker 1: in the woods. Okay, okay, live in the woods. I'm
Speaker 1: like alf or something. I like that. That sounds magical.
Speaker 1: I think bear, which a bear lives in the woods,
Speaker 1: like you're you're at we're woods. Yeah, I should we
Speaker 1: start calling you win outdoors a kind of guy. You wood,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of furry, and you're kind of like a
Speaker 1: dog whispering Martini Mike woods nasty we go. Okay, what
Speaker 1: we got for Zack? I would say, like maniac, that's
Speaker 1: a good word, not a bad way. Yeah. Hawk all
Speaker 1: seeing us really but really aggressive. Okay, So you guys
Speaker 1: just got a whole new slew of nicknames. True. Okay,
Speaker 1: So let's start with the band. Y'all formed a thousand
Speaker 1: horses and two ten two tiny and you have been
Speaker 1: playing advan since your kid kids, I know, Bill and Graham,
Speaker 1: y'all our first cousins. We are and Michael and Bill.
Speaker 1: You guys were up in a Newberry together. So in Zach,
Speaker 1: you're in Atlanta. You came on board a little bit later.
Speaker 1: How did you three get together and decide you're gonna
Speaker 1: do music? Because it happened early on. Bill and I
Speaker 1: met a music store and we would just meet there.
Speaker 1: There's nothing else to do in our town, so we'd
Speaker 1: meet there every day and us played every guitar in
Speaker 1: the place and trying to teach. I mean, we would.
Speaker 1: We were learning guitar at the same time. So that's
Speaker 1: how we our musical relationships started. And then Graham would
Speaker 1: come up every summer. He was into music, so we
Speaker 1: would sit in steel beers out of Bill's dad's refrigerator.
Speaker 1: OBUs that fridge keeps the coldest, the coldest. It's from
Speaker 1: the seventies and they made him different back then. It's
Speaker 1: literally been running for since the seventies. But you know,
Speaker 1: so we would we would listen to records and play
Speaker 1: music together then and then uh build I move in
Speaker 1: Nashville in two five. Graham moved in two thousand six.
Speaker 1: We met Zack in two thousand ten through a mutual
Speaker 1: friend and that's when we formed a thousand horses. So
Speaker 1: why Nashville over l A? Did you guys started off
Speaker 1: more like Southern rock ish at Southern rock Country. I'm
Speaker 1: still Southern rock. Well I think that Nashville, you know.
Speaker 1: Still it was closer to home than l A. Yeah
Speaker 1: you know I said that helped. Yeah. Um, And we
Speaker 1: met a guy who wanted to record it. So that's
Speaker 1: why we came to town. And Bill and I just
Speaker 1: came to town. We thought we were gonna be here
Speaker 1: for a month, and you know, ten years later, I'm
Speaker 1: still here. And you guys skipped on college. I'll send
Speaker 1: a piece out. You got out of high So didn't
Speaker 1: you like graduate high school from Nashville or something? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I finished high school with the internet. I was an
Speaker 1: amazing student, so I had very high grades and they
Speaker 1: just you know, I just finished high school with internet.
Speaker 1: It's all good again. And Michael, you sweet talked your
Speaker 1: way through a passing high high school, didn't You may
Speaker 1: have been persuasive? Yeah, oh yeah, okay, So then I'll
Speaker 1: scooped him Zack. Scooped up Zack and ice cream skip
Speaker 1: him up. You're the cherry on top. I'm like what
Speaker 1: happened once you offer got together? Well, we went to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles together to make an EP because were signing
Speaker 1: the Interscope at the time. It's our first record deal.
Speaker 1: And that's around that Dave Cobb, And that's where we
Speaker 1: met Dave Cobb, who's uh now he's on fire ch
Speaker 1: this week for a Grammy. Yeah, so you guys start
Speaker 1: the horses start at his trend. I'd like I'd like
Speaker 1: to say that we gave him a jump starm, but yeah,
Speaker 1: and we actually that's how we got to know each
Speaker 1: other as by living together in a hotel in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles for three or four weeks and yeah, drafted on
Speaker 1: graft and some martinis and a couple of tequila sunrises. Yeah.
Speaker 1: During that time, y'all had a song and the movie Footless.
Speaker 1: We did suicide Eyes in the movie Footloose, which was
Speaker 1: a big win. Yeah, that was cool. Go to a
Speaker 1: movie premier. Those are only still early movie and we
Speaker 1: need more movies. Team. I don't even we got the
Speaker 1: theme song for Gainesville. We didn't get to go with it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I've never even been to Gamesman. C MT needs to
Speaker 1: fly me to games justices. See, you guys are on
Speaker 1: the road for a long time, like in a van.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what did that look like? How long? And
Speaker 1: what it was? Van life like like my body still
Speaker 1: remains it was it was equally as much fun as
Speaker 1: it was like grueling ruling, where yeah it was all funny.
Speaker 1: We were sleeping like it was a dead winter in
Speaker 1: Toronto and we were all sleeping in the van like
Speaker 1: on the street. I mean there's like people on us
Speaker 1: like party and all night and on the floor because
Speaker 1: the f when it was cold, the floor would get hot.
Speaker 1: You couldn't even afford a hotel. No not Sometimes the
Speaker 1: first tour for a hundred dollars a night dollars Taylor
Speaker 1: Mobson the pretty Reckless reckless and they were super awesome.
Speaker 1: They were then helps out because they would give us
Speaker 1: like their bus driver's room. So we'd like, you've been
Speaker 1: a dirty bed whatever, but you know, it's a hundred
Speaker 1: dollars and I don't even know how we did it.
Speaker 1: We would eat whatever they after the year. Um, there
Speaker 1: was a time that I mean, I do remember the
Speaker 1: time in my life that was like when we were
Speaker 1: like willingly like eat off of the people's place. You
Speaker 1: finish that saying actually true and if we got a
Speaker 1: hotel room, which we always got, we would get their
Speaker 1: bus driver's hotel room, which was super cool them to
Speaker 1: give us. And it's just one big king bed, so
Speaker 1: like three of us would sleep in a bed exact
Speaker 1: would sleep on the floor another and we just take
Speaker 1: the sheets off of the bed and just sleep on
Speaker 1: the naked mattress, which is almost worse. That's almost worse.
Speaker 1: There's there's bed bugs and mines and stuff. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we lived. What do they say of bed gains, like
Speaker 1: ten pounds a years or a pound a year because
Speaker 1: it's your all, your skin and stuff, so your mattress
Speaker 1: gets here. So think about how gross those matches are
Speaker 1: with all those different people, you know, a lot. We
Speaker 1: we also like came up with a lot of ideas
Speaker 1: in that van, Like being in that place was motivating
Speaker 1: to be in a better place. So you're always i
Speaker 1: mean it's almost like a think tank. Every day. Yeah
Speaker 1: you trapped Foresight, you're driving Space and yeah you're driving
Speaker 1: to you know, five to ten hours every day you talk.
Speaker 1: We never listened to the radio. We always just talked
Speaker 1: because the radio didn't work. The radio didn't work. Now
Speaker 1: we had the radio worked, you ever had one speaker,
Speaker 1: one speaker on the drunk forward to fix it. So
Speaker 1: we're like ship, all right, this was a pretty iPhone too, No,
Speaker 1: we had my phone would not. This is before the
Speaker 1: wheel was invented. Else. The funny thing about the van
Speaker 1: is we um so before we got signed. So taking
Speaker 1: eighty four you have to record deals, is that what
Speaker 1: you're talking about. We got some of the big machine.
Speaker 1: This was like three years ago. We we went in
Speaker 1: with Dave and we were like, Dave, let's you know.
Speaker 1: We we had we had been you know, we've gotten
Speaker 1: Cia to book us, and we had managers and we're like,
Speaker 1: let's go and we've got these awesome new songs and like,
Speaker 1: you know, a few people that didn't know us were
Speaker 1: like music and we're digging the new songs live. So
Speaker 1: we're like, let's just put out another EP down. We
Speaker 1: can come up with ten grand and fifteen year or
Speaker 1: whatever it costs to make this whole thing. We did
Speaker 1: a kick storder and uh yeah, we did a kick
Speaker 1: We did a kick one of the This is after that.
Speaker 1: After remember when we got in the van. Yeah, the man,
Speaker 1: We're like, we gotta make a record. So we were
Speaker 1: like how much money would it take to make an album?
Speaker 1: And Dave was like, well, I don't really even give
Speaker 1: a ship, just pay for yours. No, he did it
Speaker 1: for much, pay for a keyboard player to come in,
Speaker 1: and like, um, so we were on the phone. I
Speaker 1: never forget. We started the album at Dave's house and
Speaker 1: we were between takes. We would be on the phone
Speaker 1: with credit card companies, all of us trying, yeah, like
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars here, and like Zach was like our
Speaker 1: big bank, We're like computer to get the big one
Speaker 1: because because of yours. But they told him no, it's
Speaker 1: just like they told us. So we finally getting approved
Speaker 1: enough for a little bit of money cash from the bank,
Speaker 1: and then our manager was like, well I'll throw it
Speaker 1: in with you. So we come together with this money,
Speaker 1: make this album, getting ready to pump it out. It's mastered.
Speaker 1: Then our manager, Big Machine, heard it and signed us,
Speaker 1: so you guys are going to put it out independently.
Speaker 1: We our goal was like we can sell two thousand
Speaker 1: copies of this thing and make our money back, you know,
Speaker 1: in a year. Like we can't do that in a year,
Speaker 1: and then we gotta you know, hand to hand, just
Speaker 1: just rocking it. Yeah, and we had tours. Sea was
Speaker 1: keeping us out on the road, so that was another
Speaker 1: great thing, is like we had dates in front of us,
Speaker 1: no intention of getting a record obviously actually trying. I mean, no,
Speaker 1: we wanted to put like we were like, you know,
Speaker 1: our goals, you know, two thousand copies, we pay everything back,
Speaker 1: everything after that that's still in the band, you know,
Speaker 1: and we went out and then yeah, that that that
Speaker 1: decision to make an album is why we have a
Speaker 1: record deal and why we are where we are right now.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of a big decision because a lot
Speaker 1: of people are scared to do an independent album. A
Speaker 1: lot of people are scared not to have a big
Speaker 1: label behind that I'm trying to say, and that like
Speaker 1: the band, as always, we've figured out that the the
Speaker 1: it's it's best just to do what you think is natural.
Speaker 1: And like, yeah, we were like, well we have to
Speaker 1: have music, let's just put it out. I mean, what's
Speaker 1: it gonna hurt? Yeah, yeah exactly, I mean what yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: It's just honestly, it's a fearless mentality because you mean,
Speaker 1: you're right, a lot of a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: want to take that risk to be in a financial
Speaker 1: crunch or a situation. But we've never really thought that way.
Speaker 1: We've always been like, how can we move them forward?
Speaker 1: When you can make a hundred dollars a night work,
Speaker 1: you can make anything works, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: when it comes to being out on the roads. So
Speaker 1: and we knew we were just like just doing nothing right.
Speaker 1: You gotta do things with your life. With your life,
Speaker 1: you're sitting around way, we don't know any how to
Speaker 1: do anything else. So like what I mean, Like I'd
Speaker 1: worked for Zach to make extra side money in his
Speaker 1: photo these you have a photo company, Yeah, I started
Speaker 1: a photo with the company ZA so I could play
Speaker 1: your pants I started. I was like, one be on
Speaker 1: the road and play music and not have to get
Speaker 1: at nine five yeah, exactly have enough money to eat.
Speaker 1: I was Dave's like for a while. Yeah, Daves like
Speaker 1: studio rat studio. Yeah. I was basically like going and
Speaker 1: he'd be like, hey, call me for like, for instance,
Speaker 1: like I did the Jayson Vizibol Like I was like
Speaker 1: the runner or assistant or whatever guy Jason record the
Speaker 1: Jayson Nisible record Southeastern That's kind of awesome. Yeah. He
Speaker 1: was like just coming and like you know in the bathrooms,
Speaker 1: like bring breakfast in the morning and like get their
Speaker 1: lunch orders. Like I remember I went picked up like
Speaker 1: Jason's tucks for his wedding and like really yeah re
Speaker 1: strong guitar. And then I would like when they were recording,
Speaker 1: I would go in there and like watch him from
Speaker 1: the control room. It was amazingment. So you saw the album, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's in the credit. I didn't see all of that.
Speaker 1: Tom Petty. Tom Petty read his name. I'm sure we
Speaker 1: think at least he tweeted the album the picture of
Speaker 1: it too, and Bill's names right there almost connected. Tomty, yeah,
Speaker 1: Derees Tom Petty might have read. But you know that's
Speaker 1: the thing about the family of it all in the community.
Speaker 1: But it was like we all helped each other where
Speaker 1: we could help each other, like at any given point,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Dave didn't have to let build
Speaker 1: a sound just for Jason his belt, and Zack didn't
Speaker 1: have to have You knew I needed money, so he
Speaker 1: just gave me some work. Yeah, and he didn't have
Speaker 1: to give me cash to run photo of it was
Speaker 1: just kind of like what do you want come hang out?
Speaker 1: So you guys have just been trying to make it
Speaker 1: work financially until those music they could take off. We're
Speaker 1: still trying to make work. That is a big myth.
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks you have like a big hit and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're driving on Jaguars flying private. What's
Speaker 1: the real truth? Two ferraris Well, the overhead goes up.
Speaker 1: Costs a lot of money to be on the road. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got a crew, you got a buss, We've got
Speaker 1: the whole thing. So, I mean it works like any
Speaker 1: other business. You know. You we've gotten to a point
Speaker 1: where we've scaled up now. So yeah, like he said,
Speaker 1: the overhead goes up. I mean things change in different ways.
Speaker 1: I mean we're not sleeping on hotel from floor an
Speaker 1: I'll say that. Yeah, quality of life. Life is the best. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's the closest thing to teleportation that exists
Speaker 1: on your boss. You fall asleep and you wake up
Speaker 1: in a new place, better than like flying. It's awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we love our bus. That's the best party, so I heard. Actually,
Speaker 1: I think I'm witnessed Michael. You had a night terror
Speaker 1: one time and you tried to remove Zack from his bunk. Uh,
Speaker 1: because you know, you sleep in a little coffin, and
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm claustrophobics, so I don't like small spaces.
Speaker 1: And I apparently had a pretty tense stream and thought
Speaker 1: I was trapped, and I literally pushed the bunk Zack
Speaker 1: above me out of the grooves and Zack jumps out,
Speaker 1: thinking he killed me the bunk had collapsed. Then just
Speaker 1: didn't my bunk is falling because that's gonna hurt bad.
Speaker 1: He wakes me up from it and he's like, are
Speaker 1: you all right? And I was like yeah, before for
Speaker 1: anybody listening, and it doesn't know when you're like a
Speaker 1: bunk on a bus is like a small hallway and
Speaker 1: they're like bunk beds, but they they there's three there's
Speaker 1: six on each side, you know, three from bo on
Speaker 1: the top, and they kind of like, I guess, snap
Speaker 1: into place. So if you push up And the only
Speaker 1: thing that kept that from actually coming down on me
Speaker 1: was the plug your cell phone. That's scary because we
Speaker 1: just we just went back to Ben and we woke
Speaker 1: up and like his bucks sitting like Cy was and
Speaker 1: angling Kevin, and our bus driver was like, what in
Speaker 1: the fund did you do? So we fixed it, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a little night here. So you guys have
Speaker 1: made a lot of friends along the way. Y'all toured
Speaker 1: with Lick too, and they're your big buddies. How was
Speaker 1: that tour? It was awesome there, That was a great tour. Um.
Speaker 1: They really helped us out a lot in that time
Speaker 1: period when we we had lost our record doing our
Speaker 1: management and book engagent. They were coming back to do
Speaker 1: a big reunion tour and they were like, well, you
Speaker 1: guys are gonna come with us, which helped us get
Speaker 1: you know, our ci A. I lost your record at
Speaker 1: all time with Interscope originally. Yeah, yes, we felt there,
Speaker 1: that felt free. This was five six years ago. Um
Speaker 1: actually know what four years ago? Um? Yeah, And we
Speaker 1: toured with those guys all summer which was an absolute blast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah they're awesome. So did you guys think
Speaker 1: your life was over when your Interscope deal fell through?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's disappointing, naturally, you know when you
Speaker 1: have something that you're at it about and you lose it,
Speaker 1: And but I mean I feel like we didn't want
Speaker 1: to let that slow us down. We just said, well,
Speaker 1: let's figure out another way to do I mean at
Speaker 1: that point in the in the in the face of
Speaker 1: failure in your eyes, even though it wasn't failure at all,
Speaker 1: it was just you know, the circum the circumstances, you know.
Speaker 1: That's in my opinion, that's when like you really regroup
Speaker 1: and you really focus it on, like, Okay, what else
Speaker 1: am I going to do? And how am I going
Speaker 1: to do it? And how am I going to be better?
Speaker 1: Because it's gonna can't let one thing stop you. A
Speaker 1: few bumps in the road stop you from your dream.
Speaker 1: That's a big bump. Though a lot of people might
Speaker 1: turn around and say, well, shoot, it's over, you know, honestly,
Speaker 1: I think it was a good thing. It gave us
Speaker 1: time to kind of like it let up that journey
Speaker 1: that path led us to here. It took us here,
Speaker 1: and it gave us time to figure out like what
Speaker 1: we're doing, how we wanted to do it, what our
Speaker 1: musical approach was, what you know, like it was like
Speaker 1: a developmental period and that's the independent album, yes, and
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's when we made our record. We made
Speaker 1: an EP and we made a record. We did I mean,
Speaker 1: we did whatever it took to continue on our dream
Speaker 1: and what we want to do so, Quitting music has
Speaker 1: never been an option. No, no quit, Like, be honest,
Speaker 1: I didn't like setting up photo this. We actually we
Speaker 1: actually actually we didn't have a good sign that one term. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you said it led you here. Two thousand and fifteen,
Speaker 1: you guys have a huge year, the highest day, highest
Speaker 1: debuting single from a new act of all times. You
Speaker 1: sign with you signed, no not if you signed with
Speaker 1: Big Machine Records. You put out the single Smoke and
Speaker 1: it daveus at twenty eight on the charts. Would you
Speaker 1: believe this? Like what are you all thinking? It was
Speaker 1: super crazy? Um? Yeah, we didn't no idea what to expect.
Speaker 1: I mean, the label kept saying, they're like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean to get it in the top thirty. It's like,
Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be tough. And then after you know,
Speaker 1: after that, it's just up to the people if they
Speaker 1: like it, you know, if they're buying it and they
Speaker 1: dig the song. And then it debuted at and we're like,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? You set a record taka what
Speaker 1: would you now? You know, for us, that's the biggest
Speaker 1: thing we were done. So we were like, you know,
Speaker 1: um and a lot of people were scared of you guys,
Speaker 1: Like no one wanted to necessarily sign you guys and
Speaker 1: tell Jimmy Hardon because you have a new sound we're starting.
Speaker 1: We had, Yeah, we we we definitely were shopped around
Speaker 1: a little bit, and you know we thought, you know,
Speaker 1: that was the crazy thing to do along face Yeah,
Speaker 1: well we kind of wanted to, like, you know, and
Speaker 1: that was one reason we made our own album is
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, we there's no sense and
Speaker 1: we didn't feel like necessarily we needed waiting weight on anybody,
Speaker 1: you know, so we kind of thought, well, let's just
Speaker 1: make our own album and put it out ourselves, and
Speaker 1: you know, if somebody coming along magically, it's like we
Speaker 1: get a record, Dealdy'll be great, you know. But other
Speaker 1: than that, there's somebody will just keep our head down
Speaker 1: and do our own thing. And then you know, we
Speaker 1: met Jimmy Harnon and they've been you know great, yeh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's amazing and the whole lay was amazing
Speaker 1: where she is amazing. That how that label runs and
Speaker 1: the support they put behind their artists is like nothing
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Don't read no, I just stopped. Okay,
Speaker 1: so on your label is Taylor Swift only the biggest
Speaker 1: act of all Swift do you guys have Thomas Rhett
Speaker 1: we are touring with right now, which is awesome. How's
Speaker 1: that tour going to Jason Anti and Thomas? It's the best.
Speaker 1: It's one of the biggest tours we've ever been a
Speaker 1: part of, and the biggest tour we've been a part of.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Jason's incredible. His performance is incredible every night.
Speaker 1: He's a great guy. Thomas is the same thing, and
Speaker 1: he's you know, to see where he's at and to
Speaker 1: see where you know, it's like, that's the dream, that's
Speaker 1: the goal. So it's been an amazing you know, first
Speaker 1: month out whatever you're doing. So y'all toward a dairyus
Speaker 1: Harker all last year telling the difference between the two tours,
Speaker 1: What have you learned from both tours or what are
Speaker 1: you learning from Jason Ati? Have you learned from Darius?
Speaker 1: You know, Darius was awesome because he taught us and
Speaker 1: he's such a great guy and he's such a humble,
Speaker 1: uh individual, and you know he's been a superstar for
Speaker 1: thirty years. It's crazy and you would never know it,
Speaker 1: you know, and his he like he made everything like
Speaker 1: a team everything like everybody's out here together kind of thing.
Speaker 1: And he really taught you how to be a humble,
Speaker 1: nice person even when you're hugely successful. So that's the
Speaker 1: one thing it taught me about. It was how to
Speaker 1: treat people, you know, no matter who they are. A romance,
Speaker 1: a little brand boots. The guy literally put the shoes
Speaker 1: on my feet him. Yeah, I don't know. He told
Speaker 1: me one time, he said that he was such good
Speaker 1: friends with his bass player and Hoodie and the Blowfish
Speaker 1: and he was like, I don't know, I just have
Speaker 1: a thing with bass players. Say, I don't know if
Speaker 1: he automatic yeah, the first year you choose yeah, now,
Speaker 1: but he's awesome. He's incredible. He treated us all amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a badass. What's the tour like with
Speaker 1: Jason and Thomas, the difference, it's amazing. Well, it's were
Speaker 1: we just started. We just started, so yeah, we're all
Speaker 1: still in the process of getting to know each other.
Speaker 1: It wasn't surprising thing, you know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's surprising or what. But like with Jason, I don't
Speaker 1: know what I was expecting, but you know, you get
Speaker 1: compared to Darius. I mean he's like, you know, only
Speaker 1: even doing it for what ten years, just still you
Speaker 1: know he's obviously you made it to the top level here.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's cool to hear him talk about
Speaker 1: he's like still excited about you know, he's like, tell
Speaker 1: us about how we're going to play, you know, two
Speaker 1: nights at Fenway Park, and he's super excited himself. He's
Speaker 1: like this gets awesome, you know. And and the stories
Speaker 1: he shares, the stories he shares with like when he
Speaker 1: was doing clubs, yeah, oh yeah, Like we've all played
Speaker 1: a lot in the same places. Like you know, it's
Speaker 1: like that's that's kind of like the he's the difference.
Speaker 1: So but I mean he's just and he's I feel
Speaker 1: like he's still very clearly remembers all that stuff because
Speaker 1: it was not that long ago. You know, he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're from Savannah, Georgia. Oh, man in the Roundhouse, you
Speaker 1: know I played there one time, opened up for Kenney Chisney.
Speaker 1: That was the coolest thing ever. I'm like, man, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Like now we're we're like him opening up for him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. When he was where he
Speaker 1: was like we feel that, like it's like, man, I
Speaker 1: can't believe him out here with the opening him for
Speaker 1: Jason Aldean every night, like yeah, starting the show out.
Speaker 1: So don't you guys have some connection to dayson concert?
Speaker 1: Bill and I went and saw him in two thousand
Speaker 1: five when we first moved to town. He was he
Speaker 1: was on the Rascal Flat story at that point and
Speaker 1: we knew the drummer rich Redmond, who still plays with him,
Speaker 1: and Richard was like, I'll come to the show in
Speaker 1: South Carolina. We drove home in South Carolina and went
Speaker 1: and uh, and that was our first Al Deane experience.
Speaker 1: I was right when Higtown was and popping, and now
Speaker 1: you're opening for him now ten years later. Whe his
Speaker 1: we're his first of three act. So you guys are
Speaker 1: nominated for CMT Award and y'all got to play the
Speaker 1: stage for the Emerging Acts. That was awesome. There's a
Speaker 1: Group of the Year video Best Video Videos of the
Speaker 1: Video of the Year and now you're nominated for an
Speaker 1: a c M that's new group. Can you believe this
Speaker 1: is happening? It's it's crazy, it's pretty insane. We weren't expecting,
Speaker 1: you know, we obviously I want to get nominate, it
Speaker 1: would be amazing, but we weren't really we weren't expecting
Speaker 1: it and it was a huge surprise. So we're so
Speaker 1: excited about it. Vegas in Vegas. Who were guys gonna do?
Speaker 1: Go in win More? Oh gosh, who wanted to be?
Speaker 1: There's obviously so many three we're just hot to be
Speaker 1: a part of be in the category of be nominated. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So you have a new single, Southern Reality. That's a
Speaker 1: made up word. What does it mean? Compound words, compound word,
Speaker 1: Southern personality. So we just kind of combided in the
Speaker 1: Southern Reality, which basically that song is about just like
Speaker 1: things we saw and observed growing up in the South.
Speaker 1: I mean we're from South Carolina and Georgia. It uh,
Speaker 1: you know, so with that culture and that is, but
Speaker 1: it's mostly just about being proud of who you are
Speaker 1: and where you're from, no matter where it is. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we just used things in imagery of what
Speaker 1: we grew up you know, being yeah, um sweet tea,
Speaker 1: laid back. You know, there's a lot of that everywhere
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and we're starting to have a kind
Speaker 1: of you know, the past, the passage singles or it
Speaker 1: kind of like more than the tip style to go
Speaker 1: into the summer in this tour with like a play
Speaker 1: song and like, you know, kind of like an anthem
Speaker 1: type of thing is what we want. One thing I
Speaker 1: forgot to mention about the new Stroy you're on. You
Speaker 1: guys play basketball with Jason Lay and Thomas right off teams.
Speaker 1: We do. We just started playing basketball every day. We're
Speaker 1: really bad. I don't think we're the tallest ones, but
Speaker 1: we're the worst ones. They're like the cool kids over
Speaker 1: they're playing like for real and we're in the corner
Speaker 1: plot you know, knockout force or they all got there
Speaker 1: like Nike high tops and stuff, and I'm like wearing
Speaker 1: umbros and we're laughing. We're looking at the gym. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're a little out of place, but we're we're getting there.
Speaker 1: We're getting there. I'm kind of fired. Hopefully by the summer,
Speaker 1: we can you know, really step our game up, start
Speaker 1: studying some game tape. Yeah fillment. Okay, So I want
Speaker 1: to wrap up. Thank you a thousand horses for joining me.
Speaker 1: I like to leave with leave your life, So give
Speaker 1: me some inspiration leave your life. I think staying focused
Speaker 1: on one thing is the most important thing, and just
Speaker 1: continuing to do that, never get out for you and
Speaker 1: never giving up, you know, and always have your vision
Speaker 1: and just you know, stick to the plan. It's kind
Speaker 1: of my stay true to your stay true while you're
Speaker 1: doing it. Don't be a jerk. Don't never sit at
Speaker 1: a table when you can stand at the bar. That's money. Also,
Speaker 1: I didn't make that. That's a quote from It's Great
Speaker 1: whatever somebody grant author. What does that even mean? Hit me?
Speaker 1: I think that it means don't sit at the table
Speaker 1: and be like closed off and like stay in your
Speaker 1: own thing when you can go stay at the bar
Speaker 1: and be like hey, new, experience me, new people. I
Speaker 1: love that. Love that's just the bar. I mean it's
Speaker 1: also metal for for the bar. Like I hate sitting
Speaker 1: at the table, want to stand at the bar. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I love you know that. I love super bar. You
Speaker 1: guys love a bar in general. Whatever, And Irish pub
Speaker 1: is a lot of fun, you know, British pub is
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. True. The martini bars bar woods nasty.
Speaker 1: We're at a martini bar. I'm getting I think it's
Speaker 1: thanks guys. And Carolina, she's the queen of talking. He
Speaker 1: was son. She's on the side. She got the stoop.
Speaker 1: Ima lost to no one can do with Caralm Carala.
Speaker 1: That's a rat for this episode. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining me on Hyper Caroline Hobby. Next week is
Speaker 1: super exciting because we have a double episode featuring Old
Speaker 1: Dominion and Drake White, and you're gonna find out if
Speaker 1: Old Dominion would rather be a giant rat or a
Speaker 1: tiny elephant. You're gonna want another answer to that, so
Speaker 1: tune in next Wednesday. See you soon.