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Speaker 3: In today's episode, Oh my gosh, guys, it's a crazy
Speaker 3: week of fifth episodes.
Speaker 2: We are we are freaking covering House of the Dragon.
Speaker 2: Did you think it couldn't get any better? Did you
Speaker 2: think they might let it down? Let you down gently?
Speaker 3: No, this is one of the craziest episodes of the
Speaker 3: season yet, and I could not believe where they went
Speaker 3: with it, and everything about it made me so happy.
Speaker 3: There's so much great character work in here, so many fun, scary,
Speaker 3: incredible moments, so much gore. Be careful, so big tw
Speaker 3: if you don't like dead animals or dead people.
Speaker 2: But this is a bang at Jason, Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: We open up with a conversation between Lord Oscar Tully,
Speaker 1: the young Lord of the Riverlands, and his northern uh help,
Speaker 1: Lord Dustin in charge of the winter Wolves, and they
Speaker 1: are searching now for a river crossing so they can
Speaker 1: get to Tumblton and do something about Lord Ormond's forces
Speaker 1: who were camped out in Tumbleton. But the problem is
Speaker 1: every time they come to a bridge, it's been destroyed.
Speaker 1: Kristen Cole's gorillas are like constant menace. They're lurking in
Speaker 1: the forest. They're raiding them, they're hitting their supply lines,
Speaker 1: and they're destroying They're destroying bridges like everywhere they go.
Speaker 1: So Tully and Dustin are like, Okay, let's fight fire
Speaker 1: with fire. We can do that too. Let's also do
Speaker 1: a gorilla war. Let's also dirty. But before they can
Speaker 1: really put the plane into action, Cole's forces raid the
Speaker 1: camp five minutes after this conversation between Oscar and Lord Dustin,
Speaker 1: kill a few guys, burn a bunch of tents, and
Speaker 1: then disappear. We go to heron hall, we see the
Speaker 1: blackboat that may or may not be Alice Rivers. The
Speaker 1: Queen's mercenaries or whoever these guys are, enter the Haunted Castle.
Speaker 1: They're looking for Amend. The Queen, of course, has been
Speaker 1: hunting Aimond and Vagar for what for some weeks. Now
Speaker 1: it seems Alice Rivers pops out. She's like, talks a
Speaker 1: bunch of ghostly, scary shit, and she kind of refers
Speaker 1: to the castle as being a living thing. And then
Speaker 1: she's like, you guys should leave because this is too
Speaker 1: scary for you. It's scary time. And then she conjures
Speaker 1: a flurry of bats that like right out of the
Speaker 1: end of Batman begins, I was good to say, it's
Speaker 1: definitely having a flashback, and then disappears in the mitror
Speaker 1: like that was really scary. They leave. She goes to
Speaker 1: Amon's bedside, where he is in the grips of a nightmare.
Speaker 1: He is dreaming about a dragon and a castle, and
Speaker 1: Alice holds him and he's of course recovering still from
Speaker 1: his stab work.
Speaker 3: And not that we needed this, because we obviously had
Speaker 3: gotten it from the implications, but this is proof that
Speaker 3: Amond is there, Alice is lying to everyone, and this
Speaker 3: is that kind of mysterious time period between them, and
Speaker 3: we're getting to see how that relationship grows, and this
Speaker 3: is really great.
Speaker 2: I have to say.
Speaker 3: Look, we always said, amen, he had the face card,
Speaker 3: he had the hair, he knew what he was doing.
Speaker 3: But this is such a fantastic different side to him,
Speaker 3: this kind of cowardly child. It's when he was a
Speaker 3: kid again, It's when he was being bullied all the time.
Speaker 2: It's so good like this shit enamored me to him.
Speaker 3: And this is what Game of Ferns I think has
Speaker 3: always done well, and how The Dragon does particularly well.
Speaker 2: There are characters who.
Speaker 3: Are evil, who you hate, but there are moments when
Speaker 3: you root for them or when you kind of empathize
Speaker 3: with them in unexpected ways, and I think this episode
Speaker 3: did that for me for ament, even though I had
Speaker 3: to keep checking myself and reminding myself who he is.
Speaker 1: So we go to the Red keep Master a while
Speaker 1: off of the reveal at the end of the previous episode,
Speaker 1: is delivering some moon tea, some plan tee to Alison's chambers.
Speaker 1: We know it's for Helena, but Allison doesn't really tell
Speaker 1: him that, and he tells her listen, this is a
Speaker 1: huge risk for me, sneaking around behind the Queen's back.
Speaker 1: I am being watched. They don't really trust me, So
Speaker 1: this is it. I can't do this kind of thing anymore,
Speaker 1: and I can't help you in any kind of way
Speaker 1: without first clearing it with the queen, or at least
Speaker 1: letting her know what I'm up to. Okay, so sorry. Helena,
Speaker 1: of course, doesn't want to drink the moon tea. No,
Speaker 1: and Alison tries to explain to her, We're in a
Speaker 1: very tenuous situation. It's very dangerous for you and for
Speaker 1: this unborn child. What if it's a boy, then that
Speaker 1: is the heir to the throne and Helena would have
Speaker 1: to kill him.
Speaker 2: Would have to, yeah, and Ranera would kill them, but.
Speaker 1: She would do it, and she would do I mean
Speaker 1: she would to be fair, she would have to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's not a moral choice for her, it's
Speaker 2: a political choice, yes.
Speaker 1: And Alison is like, listen, I've taken it many times. Okay,
Speaker 1: Raniera has taken Every woman here is taking it. We're
Speaker 1: all this is how you this is how things are done.
Speaker 1: Nobody talks about it, but this is how it's done.
Speaker 1: Drink it. And Helena's like.
Speaker 2: No, I gotta say.
Speaker 3: I think Alison flopped the argument because the moment that
Speaker 3: she's like, hey, me and Ranera both did this, and
Speaker 3: look at how it saved us, look at our lives.
Speaker 2: And Helena's like, I don't fucking want your if you just.
Speaker 1: Put it, I think you just this is gonna be
Speaker 1: terrible that I'm saying this out loud. I think you
Speaker 1: just put it in her wine.
Speaker 2: Or I'm shocked Alison didn't just put it in there.
Speaker 1: Listen, do it.
Speaker 2: Obviously, I don't want that for Helena. And like you said,
Speaker 2: it's the right thing to say, but like.
Speaker 1: This is that moral formulation, that moral formulation. I just
Speaker 1: want to be clear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's only in Game of Thrones, and like, but
Speaker 3: I'm shocked Allison is at her most scheming hare and
Speaker 3: she doesn't do it.
Speaker 2: That shows I love for Helena. I guess.
Speaker 1: Sabbath Afrey in the small Council chamber is complaining that
Speaker 1: she doesn't yet have hair in hall. That was the
Speaker 1: deal Jay said, come and as part of the negotiation
Speaker 1: agreement that allowed the Northmen to cross the Twins, the Phraser'
Speaker 1: supposed to get hair in hall. And Sabbatha is not
Speaker 1: sitting in hair and hall right now, and she's really, really,
Speaker 1: really really complaining about it. She pushes almost too hard,
Speaker 1: and Renier basically says, listen, you have a council seat.
Speaker 1: That should be enough. For you and we'll deal with
Speaker 1: the Harron Hall issue later and Sabbath accepts that they
Speaker 1: go to the Council chamber for the meeting.
Speaker 3: Jalen Adam, Yeah, I just got to say, as Rena
Speaker 3: as pr person, is she failing again here at common diplomacy?
Speaker 1: I fear she. I think she is. I think she
Speaker 1: should say. I mean, I don't understand why she doesn't say, sure,
Speaker 1: gather your free army and march it to heron Hall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: take it and you will stay here as the as
Speaker 1: part of my suppall council. But if you want to
Speaker 1: put an army at heron Hall and hold it that,
Speaker 1: I mean, what's wrong with that?
Speaker 2: Why not do that kill the people who come looking
Speaker 2: for Amond?
Speaker 1: But anyway, well, it might be it might be that
Speaker 1: a large part of her forces are with Oscar Talley
Speaker 1: marching you know, by dribs and drabs towards Tumbleton. So
Speaker 1: it might be that she doesn't have a huge But
Speaker 1: like I think that would be a solution. I don't
Speaker 1: know that she's necessarily failing, but she should make it
Speaker 1: clear that listen, you will get heron Hall soon, but
Speaker 1: you know now is not the time. If that's indeed
Speaker 1: with the formulation she's using. Anyway, we go to the
Speaker 1: small Council, Balen Adam bring the news that Vagar has
Speaker 1: burned a bunch of stuff in the riverlands and flew
Speaker 1: off and now no one knows where. Damon says, well,
Speaker 1: in addition to that, we had basically a riot at
Speaker 1: the dragon Gate, you know, hungry people just going crazy,
Speaker 1: and he blames Missaria, basically saying Massaria is like beloved
Speaker 1: fucking poor people. She was supposed to be like the
Speaker 1: poor people whisper.
Speaker 2: And where is her whispering?
Speaker 1: Where is the stuff? Like she's not able to control them?
Speaker 1: And Missaria says, well, really the issue is the city Watch.
Speaker 1: She's there to brew. They react to any small thing
Speaker 1: with like the utmost violence. And Damon comes back with, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you think so. Like the thin gold line of the
Speaker 1: city Watch is all that stands between the population and anarchy.
Speaker 1: I've had two city Watch people murdered by unknown agents
Speaker 1: of Lord Ormond. Probably. Meanwhile, there's the other question of Ormond,
Speaker 1: ty Tower and Tumbleton. What do they do. The debate
Speaker 1: is between sending Damon's army after him or Damon's perspective
Speaker 1: is why don't we just burn the whole fucking thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just but he's sick of it. He doesn't want
Speaker 3: to play the parma. I want to say, I want
Speaker 3: to shout out Emma Darcy here. Their acting in this
Speaker 3: episode is so wild and we get this great kind
Speaker 3: of and I'm not the first person to notice this.
Speaker 3: This is an internet thing, but there is more dragon
Speaker 3: in their performance every single episode.
Speaker 2: They act less and less like a thoughtful.
Speaker 3: Human and more like somebody whose neck is always snapping,
Speaker 3: always shocked, always on the watch.
Speaker 2: And this conversation with Damon is so like that, it's
Speaker 2: so lizard like.
Speaker 3: It's so about trying to understand Ranier's position in this
Speaker 3: more council, and it's so fucking good.
Speaker 1: This is such a great I think Ranier is gradually
Speaker 1: coming to the conclusion that listen, I'm trying to be
Speaker 1: It would obviously be a peer disaster, not to mention,
Speaker 1: morally wrong to wipe out Tumbleton through dragonfire and kill
Speaker 1: thousands of my own supporters. But I think she's kind
Speaker 1: of gradually arriving at the conclusion that Mercy is not
Speaker 1: getting her anywhere, and she is gradually gravitating naturally towards
Speaker 1: a more authoritarian outlook, but we will see. Or while
Speaker 1: brings news that on the army marching to Tumulton Front
Speaker 1: poster Tully is trying to get there, but Kristen Colesman
Speaker 1: are making it really really hard, burning the bridges, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Rania orders Bayla and Adam to the riverlands, tells them
Speaker 1: locate Aimond, locate Vagar, tell us where they are. Adam says, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll go, but we need like lunch and stuff for us,
Speaker 1: and Baila is like, no, I can go right now, hah,
Speaker 1: because she is desperate to get back into Nia's good
Speaker 1: favor after she believes being blamed by Rania for Jayce's death,
Speaker 1: which is true.
Speaker 3: It's true doing that, But I also do think that
Speaker 3: Beyla's own guilt is making it heavier.
Speaker 2: Like Ranera blame stuck in everyone that's you know, like
Speaker 2: it's it.
Speaker 3: She does blame Baylor, and she's not doing a good
Speaker 3: job being a stepmom, aunt, cousin or whatever the fuck
Speaker 3: she is. Toha, but this is also about Bayla, But
Speaker 3: I have to say I'm love it this Adam characterization
Speaker 3: where he is kind of the one who's like he
Speaker 3: wasn't raised by royals. He doesn't care what the queen says.
Speaker 3: To a certain extent, he wants his workers, he wants
Speaker 3: his colleague in this case Bela, to be fed and
Speaker 3: slept so they can do their best. I thought this
Speaker 3: was such a telling interaction between them all.
Speaker 1: It. Rania eventually orders Damon to go to the riverlands
Speaker 1: and just scout the area. Damon says, Okay, I'll go,
Speaker 1: but we need to take care of the city watches
Speaker 1: under immense pressure. They're not being paid. They're the only
Speaker 1: thing again keeping the capitol from descending into complete chaos,
Speaker 1: and you need to figure out something for them right now.
Speaker 1: And Sabbath fray. Meanwhile, I was looking around like, believe
Speaker 1: this is what O meeting is Like, this is nuts.
Speaker 3: Can we talk about that, Jason, because again, when we
Speaker 3: talk about Raniera's short term choices, rain now being on
Speaker 3: the council sitting next to that smamy motherfucker that she
Speaker 3: put as master of coin and he's given her all
Speaker 3: the juice.
Speaker 2: They're calling Massaria a whore.
Speaker 3: They're assassin about how people got jobs, bastards upgraded to
Speaker 3: counsel and the hand and shit this, to me is
Speaker 3: bad planning on her nearest part. Is there a version
Speaker 3: of this where these two just keep each other busy
Speaker 3: with gossip so it's less dangerous or do you think
Speaker 3: this choice will bite her in the butt the kind
Speaker 3: of random small council appointment she's making.
Speaker 1: I think she's trying to do something good, which is
Speaker 1: to reward her supporters. But I think she's doing it
Speaker 1: very poorly because she's not choosing based on any kind
Speaker 1: of competence level for the job. I mean, sorry, to me,
Speaker 1: is the main offender.
Speaker 2: I know, Jesus a fire Massaria get rid of her, Like.
Speaker 1: What the fuck is she doing?
Speaker 4: She tell me when she has ever come with well,
Speaker 4: some juicy intelligence one time.
Speaker 3: We will end up at the end of this episode
Speaker 3: asking that very question again, I think, but I do
Speaker 3: agree with you. I don't think that these are smart choices.
Speaker 3: And it feels to me that there was something very
Speaker 3: ominous about the kind of open disregard for Rania, like
Speaker 3: the sassing of talking about a targarian that way. You know, oh,
Speaker 3: the whore who advises her, you know, the they would
Speaker 3: never have said that stuff.
Speaker 2: In front of a series.
Speaker 3: This is a man who chopped a man's face in
Speaker 3: half of saying the kids who are bastards were obviously bastards.
Speaker 3: So I think this Obviously we're going to get a
Speaker 3: bigger moment of this with Damon. But I think this
Speaker 3: kind of highlights that Raniera does not have the power
Speaker 3: or sway or fear.
Speaker 2: That she thinks she everything.
Speaker 1: I think everything's just moving way too fast. Agree Ranier
Speaker 1: and Damon argue privately about her authority and orders. Damon says, listen,
Speaker 1: I'll deal with Aymond and Vagar after the city Watch
Speaker 1: thing is taken care of. We really need to to
Speaker 1: take care of that, and he makes the case that
Speaker 1: Renier needs to stop caring about the graffiti and just
Speaker 1: get on with ruling the capitol, like, stop worrying about that.
Speaker 1: We go to Laris and Eggon. They're stumbling around the forest.
Speaker 1: Egon is this is I mean we talked about Emma Darcy,
Speaker 1: Tom Glencarney is great.
Speaker 5: This this.
Speaker 3: I think he is coming up for a little Emmy
Speaker 3: contention off this season.
Speaker 1: Man his So he goes on an Eggon goes on
Speaker 1: a little monologue here where he basically says, you know,
Speaker 1: my parents favored Aimoned. They taught him everything. He was
Speaker 1: the perfect little boy. He was so great with the swords,
Speaker 1: he claimed vagar and he basically winges a lot, and
Speaker 1: it's Tom Glencarney's performance is so wounded and so bitter,
Speaker 1: but also like there is there's just some of the
Speaker 1: brattiness of egg On in previous seasons is toned down,
Speaker 1: where he's just been vulnerable in a way that you're
Speaker 1: not used to seeing from him, and it really lands.
Speaker 1: I was like, Damn, I get it.
Speaker 2: I'm literally I get it, dude.
Speaker 3: I'm literally like tearing up because I do think that
Speaker 3: there is this kind of unbelievable little triptick here where
Speaker 3: you get the Aimond moment and you hear Aimon's fears
Speaker 3: and how he knows he was the most loved, but
Speaker 3: how he worshiped his brother and how that was like
Speaker 3: never really received, and then you get egg On and
Speaker 3: you get this really vulnerable moment of him talking about
Speaker 3: his position, and you buy into both of them because
Speaker 3: the performances are so good.
Speaker 2: But then the real gut punch moment for me is Laris.
Speaker 3: His response to egg On is so fantastic, and it
Speaker 3: is this kind of monologue ready moment where he basically
Speaker 3: just says, hey, actually, your whole life you've had.
Speaker 1: That's the but that you're you're right, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: go for it. Missaria goes to see Alison. She's heard
Speaker 1: about the potion. She's learned about the potion through one
Speaker 1: of her spies in the castle.
Speaker 2: Finally she's doing it.
Speaker 1: Whoa okay, but like, okay, so part one is finding
Speaker 1: out about the moon tea. Part two in doing your
Speaker 1: job is like correctly assess what's going on. Alison very
Speaker 1: deftly and with ease, fools Messaria into believing that the
Speaker 1: moon tea is for her, and she drinks it in
Speaker 1: front of her, and Massaria tries to like lightly grill
Speaker 1: Alison about who had knocked her up, but of course,
Speaker 1: you know, Alison manages to wiggle out of that one.
Speaker 1: Sorry but if this is I'm sorry, but if if
Speaker 1: Missaria fans want to use this as a feather in
Speaker 1: their cap from Masaria doing good job, she failed it again.
Speaker 1: She got bamboozled by Alice.
Speaker 2: I gotta say this is I love Alison. We know
Speaker 2: I'm an Allison apologist.
Speaker 3: Her homosexuality has changed the entire source material and we
Speaker 3: love her for it. But This is Allison at her
Speaker 3: most fucking conniving, and it's kind of cool to see
Speaker 3: Olivia cook back at it. I mean, I was so
Speaker 3: shocked in this moment by how easily manipulated Massaria was.
Speaker 2: The I texted the x Ray Vision group chat was like,
Speaker 2: is this gonna be a fucking love triangle? Like, is
Speaker 2: Alison gonna manipulate her Laris style?
Speaker 3: There's this great these great moments of knowing where Alison
Speaker 3: tries to play on the fact that they both care
Speaker 3: about Raniera, they've both known Raniera, and also like, guess
Speaker 3: what Raniera knows that I have a fucking boyfriend, and
Speaker 3: she uh knows a bit well about herself, and Massiria
Speaker 3: tries to kind of poke and imply that she knows
Speaker 3: it's Kristen Cole.
Speaker 2: It's so well done. But Alison fucking wins.
Speaker 3: And this is that conniving, old town, fucking high tower
Speaker 3: bitch that we have not seen for a while, because
Speaker 3: she's gonna do whatever it takes to keep Helena and
Speaker 3: the baby safe.
Speaker 1: Clearly, Cole and GWayne are tromping through the woods and
Speaker 1: GWayne is discussing Ormond, basically saying he's a thin skin twat,
Speaker 1: but he's a very very smart guy, and you know
Speaker 1: he's a capable fire and he then says, man, old Town,
Speaker 1: you gotta see it. You got to see it when
Speaker 1: the sun is rising over West russ from the from
Speaker 1: the high tower. It's so good. You gotta come there.
Speaker 1: We'll hang out like you're doing a job. It's like
Speaker 1: it's everything. Let's get away from all this, Like when
Speaker 1: this is done, let's go to old Town. Come with me,
Speaker 1: and let's just brow out. Then suddenly the horses start
Speaker 1: screaming and falling down, and we see that Oscar Tully
Speaker 1: and Dustin have spread these little sharp metal coltrops is
Speaker 1: what they call them in real life, but in the
Speaker 1: world they call him crow's feet and they get stuck
Speaker 1: into the horses feet and cripple them. Basically, so put
Speaker 1: his horse out of its misery. Damon talks to Captain Largent,
Speaker 1: Commander Largent of the City Watch, and he's like, you
Speaker 1: guys went a little overbord in the graffiti. Shit, you
Speaker 1: need to shill out. Largin is like, well, what do
Speaker 1: you want me to do? My guys are getting like
Speaker 1: disemboweled in the streets and nobody knows what's going on,
Speaker 1: and Damon's like, well, I know exactly what to do.
Speaker 1: I Am going to make a big speech then, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lift their spirits. But before he can do that,
Speaker 1: there's some screams from nearby alley and they find two
Speaker 1: more guys with their guts cut open in an alley.
Speaker 1: These are Ormond spies that are doing this, and we
Speaker 1: watch the one of them send the latest update, I
Speaker 1: guess to Ormond and Tumbleton via Pigeon. Ormond is managing
Speaker 1: the you know, the hardening of Tumbleton. He chats with
Speaker 1: Darren about history and about leadership and politics, and tests
Speaker 1: Darren about his understanding of both of those subjects. Ormond
Speaker 1: gives a very praiseful history of Mariah Martel, the Yellow
Speaker 1: Toad of Dorn, who resisted the first Eggon's repeated attempts
Speaker 1: to conquer Dorn in a using gorilla tactics. In a
Speaker 1: very very smart and ruthless way. Ormond tells Darren that
Speaker 1: the Targerians never understood the culture of west Ross, the
Speaker 1: various cultures of Wes west Rosi civilization. Then Darren makes
Speaker 1: a winning move in Cyvass and Ormand gets really mad
Speaker 1: really really really fucking mad. But then like flips on,
Speaker 1: Diamond tells Darren never ever apologize for making a winning move.
Speaker 1: And then he's like, I gotta show you something. You're
Speaker 1: gonna love this. Oh no, and he goes into his
Speaker 1: little person. He pulls out a coin and he's like,
Speaker 1: I had you minted as king Darren, so guess what
Speaker 1: your ring begins now. So this is obviously a huge
Speaker 1: problem because I mean, insane mood, I would consider it
Speaker 1: a long shot that Darren takes the throne, but now
Speaker 1: he's been kind of forced into it.
Speaker 3: Jason is when we think about kind of just on
Speaker 3: a minimal TLDR level, like this doesn't seem like a
Speaker 3: smart Marshall play to me from Ormond, do you think
Speaker 3: he has the backing and the support that we just
Speaker 3: don't know about?
Speaker 1: Well, I think that he thinks. I think he's got
Speaker 1: more irons in the fire than he's letting on this.
Speaker 3: This is what.
Speaker 1: We are circling around because everybody keeps saying Riniera keep
Speaker 1: saying why tumbled him, Why he's got something else?
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out, I think at some point. But
Speaker 1: he's clearly got an another part to his grand plan,
Speaker 1: and it's not just hunker down and tumbledon and wait
Speaker 1: for the attack. Like He's got some other thing. So
Speaker 1: we will see in the gods Wood of the Red Keep.
Speaker 1: Alison again goes to Helena and she's now like, listen,
Speaker 1: we got to get out of here. Okay, we need
Speaker 1: to go right now because our lives are in jeopardy
Speaker 1: here and I have bribed a maid to help them,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna use the secret tunnels. We're gonna go
Speaker 1: out through Baylor's room and we're gonna leave. And Helene
Speaker 1: is like, well, what about Yourhara mm hmmm. Alison's like, well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to leave her because they're just gonna
Speaker 1: slow us down. And Helene is like, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to do that. And Alison is like, listen, Ranier is
Speaker 1: not going to kill like a baby girl.
Speaker 2: I swear she's a queen who was raised above men,
Speaker 2: but she would do that. She would never think somebody
Speaker 2: else would do that.
Speaker 1: And she's like, I promise, like, when we get out
Speaker 1: of here, we will send for her one day. But
Speaker 1: Helena like knows for sure that Alison is lying, Well,
Speaker 1: we're right back. More emphasis and we're back. Adam Bayla
Speaker 1: continue to pursue Vagar, but there are always like several
Speaker 1: steps behind. They talk about the fact that Bayla takes
Speaker 1: on a lot of the guilt of Jase's death and
Speaker 1: she's trying to make up for it by finding Vagar.
Speaker 1: Adam meanwhile, is like, we got to take We're just
Speaker 1: working too hard. We need some downtime, we need to rest,
Speaker 1: like we need some quality time for ourselves. Like maybe
Speaker 1: we'll go out and have a date. Like it's clear
Speaker 1: that he has a crush on her exactly. It's whatever
Speaker 1: he's says you and he's kind of like, don't.
Speaker 5: Worry, like I'll save you, like if you get married away,
Speaker 5: like I'll get you back, Like and we can as
Speaker 5: long as we eat some delicious apple and cheese fast
Speaker 5: or whatever.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: He really wants that to snack. He's on it.
Speaker 1: Amond in heron Hall is having another nightmare. He weaks
Speaker 1: up and he finds that Alice is at his bedside,
Speaker 1: and he's like he had this weird feeling about Vagar,
Speaker 1: and Alice tells her. Alice tells him that Vagar flew away,
Speaker 1: and apparently, like this shouldn't happen, right, But somehow their
Speaker 1: bond has been broken, and Aimond is very troubled by this.
Speaker 1: He goes to the balcony, he's looking out over the skies.
Speaker 1: Can't see her, he can't feel her, he says, Without her,
Speaker 1: I am nothing, And he just doesn't know what to do. Now.
Speaker 1: He realizes that King's landing has fallen, that Eggon is dead,
Speaker 1: that he killed him, and the you know, the realm
Speaker 1: probably believes that he killed him. So Alice, you know,
Speaker 1: is continuing to mother Aimen through this like really darkness.
Speaker 2: Yeahs soule.
Speaker 3: I also want to ask a question here about the bond, Jason.
Speaker 3: Is this something that you think Alice and Haroen Hall
Speaker 3: could be behind, like some kind of spiritual ac cult
Speaker 3: separation or distance, almost like a you know, the Sleeping
Speaker 3: Beauty of it all where everyone was asleep in the
Speaker 3: castle and nobody could get through the thorns, Like is
Speaker 3: that it? Or is this a true broken bond where
Speaker 3: Vega could maybe even be claimed by somebody else.
Speaker 1: I doubt that, I think it. It might be the
Speaker 1: magic of her itself. Like that's why I think, you know,
Speaker 1: because he is being drawn closer and closer into like
Speaker 1: the bosom of this weird, magical place. Eggon meanwhile, has
Speaker 1: fallen into despair. Even deeper into despair, he realizes, like,
Speaker 1: I'm never getting to wend Dishtown to kill Aimen, Like
Speaker 1: that's the odds of doing that are very, very slim.
Speaker 1: My dragon is dead. My mom never loved me. I
Speaker 1: thought Amen was the better one. And the whole realm
Speaker 1: thinks that he killed me. And that's so embarrassing. And
Speaker 1: Laris now comes back with sick All you do is complain,
Speaker 1: and this brutal monologs.
Speaker 2: So many people are going to be monologuing this as drama.
Speaker 2: It's so good. It's such a fucking powerful performance.
Speaker 3: And I love in this moment that Laris fucking knows
Speaker 3: that Eggon fucking relies on him and needs him to survive,
Speaker 3: so he can fucking say whatever the fuck he wants,
Speaker 3: and he does so.
Speaker 1: He basically says, listen, you've had you were born with
Speaker 1: a golden spoon in your mouth. You're named after the conqueror.
Speaker 1: Your dragon is so beautiful they named it after the sun.
Speaker 1: You had the best nights training. You like, give me
Speaker 1: a fucking break.
Speaker 2: You could have done anything, bitch, and you just drunk
Speaker 2: it and raped it away, because this is like, this
Speaker 2: is like.
Speaker 1: Steph Curry calling himself an underdog. It's like you were
Speaker 1: raised by an end be a player and have the
Speaker 1: best like professional training, like from the youngest age. Give
Speaker 1: me a break.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 1: It's this incredible scene, and it's unclear it seems to
Speaker 1: break egg on a little bit because Laris basically says
Speaker 1: like you had all these advantages and in the end
Speaker 1: all you did was fuck random whorrors and drown him
Speaker 1: media and you were a terrible king and a terrible man,
Speaker 1: which is a parmer blow. Raniera goes to the sept
Speaker 1: and she's praying. Part of this is clearly like a
Speaker 1: pr stunt because she's trying to get the faith on
Speaker 1: her side so that she can be anointed. Damon comes
Speaker 1: in and just like a laughs you're doing this. He
Speaker 1: kneels and they speak in high Valarian. Raniera is like, listen,
Speaker 1: I admit that I was wrong about a bunch of stuff,
Speaker 1: but you know, particularly about the city Watch, and the
Speaker 1: importance of the city Watch right now and the security
Speaker 1: of our government because the enemy is clearly inside the
Speaker 1: walls needs to be confronted and Raniera is feeling that.
Speaker 1: We get the sense that maybe this isn't all a
Speaker 1: Pierre stunt, because she's saying, right, the gods have forsaken me,
Speaker 1: Like if the gods were for me, why is everything
Speaker 1: so hard?
Speaker 2: And he was trying to strike me down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Damon gives a great version of the Laris speech
Speaker 1: where he's babe, are you fucking kidding? Like you thought
Speaker 1: it was gonna be easy. You thought it was gonna
Speaker 1: be summer all the time and everything. Raniera, we love you,
Speaker 1: we love you, we love you. No, it's gonna be hard.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be very hard. There are people in this
Speaker 1: country who will never ever support you because you're a woman, period,
Speaker 1: and you need to accept that that's reality.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I love this writing. I also want to.
Speaker 3: Say I thought about you a lot while I was
Speaker 3: watching this, Jason, this scene like both the times I
Speaker 3: watched it, because this, to me is you use this
Speaker 3: phrase a lot that the Targarians are Aliens and west Rows,
Speaker 3: and I totally understand it on a conceptual level. This
Speaker 3: is the first scene where I feel like I saw it.
Speaker 3: I couldn't stop thinking about it. Like Raniera is trying
Speaker 3: so hard to understand why any of this soothes people,
Speaker 3: why they care about it, how it gives them hope,
Speaker 3: because she fucking wants that. But her and Daemon are
Speaker 3: They're like tourists looking at each other, and everyone is
Speaker 3: watching them, and everyone is trying to not watch them,
Speaker 3: and they are so conspicuous, and they are so alien,
Speaker 3: and her head is dipping and diving like a dragon.
Speaker 3: This was the moment where I thought, oh, they are
Speaker 3: aliens here, like they actually do not understand it. And
Speaker 3: this is one of the first times I feel like
Speaker 3: I've seen a targarian who isn't doing as much of
Speaker 3: a good job.
Speaker 2: At covering it up. Like Raniera seems lost here. This
Speaker 2: does not seem like where she grew up.
Speaker 1: Laris Eggon give up on the Wendish Town revenge mission
Speaker 1: or Eggon does they arrived back at Rook's Rest. I
Speaker 1: don't think they got very far. They probably like seriously
Speaker 1: bad times, so they come back. And it's clear that
Speaker 1: Laris's little speech really affected egg On because he sits
Speaker 1: down and basically says, all right, hire the ship to Bravos,
Speaker 1: let's get out of here. I like my business here
Speaker 1: has done, like you're let's go with your original plan
Speaker 1: and let's just get out. And then someone says, what
Speaker 1: ship would that be? And it's folks, it's Thailand, Lanister
Speaker 1: so Vive the Battle of the Gullet.
Speaker 6: He's alive, crazy and this matter is pissed to every provosi.
Speaker 2: He hates every prophosa.
Speaker 5: He is.
Speaker 2: He's a guy who went to Thailand and got fucked
Speaker 2: over biosex. So he tried to abuse that.
Speaker 6: He's not happy about it, like it's so funny, bro,
Speaker 6: you fucked up, but he is so mad about it.
Speaker 2: It's so fucking fun Like he's such an idiot. But
Speaker 2: he's alive. He's alive. Jason.
Speaker 1: In the Red Keep, Alison and Helena disguise themselves as
Speaker 1: maids and they're about to leave when Massaria discovers them.
Speaker 1: Alison then bamboozles Massaria again, convincing her basically by saying, hey,
Speaker 1: this is useful information. Maybe you'll be able to use
Speaker 1: it somehow, Like I understand you're in this, locked in
Speaker 1: this war of wills with Damon. This like weird love
Speaker 1: triangle in which you believe that you're in love with
Speaker 1: Raniera and every time she pays attention to you, you
Speaker 1: light up but you need to realize something. She and
Speaker 1: Damon are two sides of the same coin. She is
Speaker 1: never fucking leaving him for you. You need to get
Speaker 1: over it. And you need to take this information that
Speaker 1: you have about where we're going and how he left
Speaker 1: and have that as a coin in your purse for later.
Speaker 1: So keep your fucking mouth shut, give up on the
Speaker 1: idea that Raniera is ever going to be with you.
Speaker 1: And we're leaving, okay, And by the way, look around.
Speaker 1: Do you think Rniera is doing great? The high towers
Speaker 1: very well may take back the city, and when they do,
Speaker 1: you have information about where we went. So fuck off.
Speaker 1: We're leaving and they leave, and Massaria absolutely goes for it.
Speaker 7: And once again, as I don't know what the doing
Speaker 7: this is, I will when we get to the end
Speaker 7: of this episode, we will question what Massari is up to.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I gotta say, I think Alison, speaking of
Speaker 3: things going too fast, my baby girl, my queen, this
Speaker 3: is a really fucking dangerous play because you don't know.
Speaker 2: How in deep she is to Ranera. I know, al
Speaker 2: I mean she.
Speaker 8: Read her down, she did, she read her the fuckah
Speaker 8: she realized she realized just from looks across the room
Speaker 8: that Missaria was in love with Raniera.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bitch, because she was also in love with Raniera.
Speaker 3: And also I do think that Allison's like, well, I
Speaker 3: did this with Kristin Cole, so I think I can
Speaker 3: probably do it with Massiria, which I kind of love
Speaker 3: her logic. But I also feel like, oh, I just
Speaker 3: love this scene because it's the moment when she says like,
Speaker 3: you know, you stand in like the warm light of
Speaker 3: her gaze.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, Allison, calm it down, lesbian. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, man.
Speaker 3: I think this is a fucking dangerous play by Alison
Speaker 3: because it immediately pits her against Raniera and makes her
Speaker 3: seem like she is complicit in whatever the high Towers
Speaker 3: are doing, which we don't think she is, but she's
Speaker 3: like kind of trying to win along by it to
Speaker 3: protect the babes.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it was a dumb plan. The
Speaker 2: ending is not looking good for anyone.
Speaker 1: I mean, to her credit, she's trying to save an
Speaker 1: unborn child's life.
Speaker 3: No I know, and I love Helenea, so do whatever
Speaker 3: you can to save Helena because she is one of
Speaker 3: the few good people in the Sea, so I support her,
Speaker 3: but I do think it's a dangerous swing. That is
Speaker 3: the first time she's really gone against Rnier since she's
Speaker 3: been her prisoner.
Speaker 1: More guys arrive at heron hall looking for aimand they
Speaker 1: sees Alice. Aimond pops out kills them all. Alice helps
Speaker 1: a little bit and they are all dead. And yes,
Speaker 1: Tyland Lanister, back in Rook's rest, argues with Laris about
Speaker 1: the ship escape plan. He's like, I don't like it.
Speaker 1: And by the way, you know why he doesn't like it.
Speaker 1: This guy is very, very anti sea voyage. After his
Speaker 1: last several months, he went all the way to Essos
Speaker 1: to pick up to get fucking Admiral Lohar on his side.
Speaker 1: It was a terrible fucking experience. Then he got thrown
Speaker 1: overboard during the Battle of the Gullet, barely survived. And
Speaker 1: so at this point he is anti large bodies of water.
Speaker 1: This guy is not getting on a ship. You cannot
Speaker 1: force him on a ship at gunpoint. He's not getting
Speaker 1: on a ship. Laris is like, well, listen, I got
Speaker 1: money in Bravos. I got a big house over there.
Speaker 1: We can live in the great style over there. Like,
Speaker 1: you're not going to miss a single thing. Tyland Lanister, though,
Speaker 1: is like, I got a better idea. We go overland
Speaker 1: to Lanisport, one of the great castles of the realm,
Speaker 1: built on a gold mine. You want to talk about gold,
Speaker 1: you want to talk about money, you want to talk
Speaker 1: about safety. How about we got it over there? And
Speaker 1: Lannis is like, oh, very interesting plan. You want to
Speaker 1: take Eggon to your own castle where you're gonna have
Speaker 1: him as your cat's baw blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: As this argument is unfolding, Janos, the local tough guy
Speaker 1: manager of the piss Bucket operation, comes and is like, oh,
Speaker 1: what ship are we talking about and pulls Eggon's crown
Speaker 1: out of his bag. So Eggon stabs the shit out
Speaker 1: and kills him.
Speaker 3: Why is Eggon carrying that crowd around in a bag
Speaker 3: like he's fucking Rapunzels from Tangled? I know you gotta
Speaker 3: have it in like at least two bags, I would say,
Speaker 3: and then another bag. And also I have to say,
Speaker 3: I speaking of how good Tom Connie's being in this,
Speaker 3: I love the ferocity with which Eggon kills this man,
Speaker 3: Like it's so violent, it's so vicious and it's so
Speaker 3: much of his anger that we've seen in this episode.
Speaker 2: And when he says you can call me your grace
Speaker 2: as he stabs him in the throat, and look, it's.
Speaker 6: Very dumb, and Laris and Tyler Monister are like, fuck,
Speaker 6: this guy's an idiot. But you get this moment of like,
Speaker 6: oh shit, like Eggon's different when he comes back, it's
Speaker 6: going to be a problem.
Speaker 1: Damon makes his speech to the City watch boys, and
Speaker 1: it's a fucking doozy. It's a great one classic.
Speaker 4: He's like, you know, the capital, all that stands between
Speaker 4: the Capitol and chaos and insurgency is us.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's us, boys.
Speaker 4: When the empire's expanding, who will be first to dip
Speaker 4: their hands in the t's gonna be wearing some silks six.
Speaker 2: Months down the line. And they all fall for.
Speaker 1: It, by the way, they're going crazy and he wins
Speaker 1: them over. Colesman meanwhile approached Stoney scept behind that sadly
Speaker 1: the river crossing has been burned by the Rivermen, and
Speaker 1: GWayne is like hanging by a thread.
Speaker 2: He's lost it.
Speaker 3: And also, I want to say this is a really
Speaker 3: interesting episode for fans of hating Kristin Cole, I like myself, Bro,
Speaker 3: He's going through it. They're getting leaked, They're getting fucking
Speaker 3: stabbed by thorns. It's like nature itself is against their quest.
Speaker 3: And I love to see this man despair. I'm really
Speaker 3: interested to see where this goes for Coal and GWayne,
Speaker 3: because that has been an interesting pairing, and I think
Speaker 3: that where we leave it is very interesting.
Speaker 1: Damon and Largent torture one of Ormond's spies. They want
Speaker 1: to know, you know, how many are they? Where are they?
Speaker 1: The man shows them a coin that he has hidden
Speaker 1: on him, and apparently the coin of King Darren has
Speaker 1: already made its way to the capitol. It's already spreading around.
Speaker 1: Gwaen tries to lift cole spirits by just being like, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, we could go to Tumbledon,
Speaker 1: we go anywhere, you know. Yeah. Cole is like the
Speaker 1: path is set before me. I'm gonna pursue the riverman,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm going down with the ship. Basically, I
Speaker 1: Am going to fight until I die. And Gwen's like,
Speaker 1: but we've lost half her guys already, and everybody's like
Speaker 1: sick and tired, and you know, slogging through the mud.
Speaker 1: They got leeches on their balls, like we're gonna terrible
Speaker 1: and calls like, well, guess what I want to That's
Speaker 1: how I want to go out, and gween Is is
Speaker 1: dumbfounded by this.
Speaker 3: Also gotta say, simp Cole forever, because he did say
Speaker 3: he tells a sad story.
Speaker 2: He wants to die. He wants to die and Glory
Speaker 2: be killed in his own way because the Greens and the.
Speaker 3: Blacks have always used them. And then he says, and
Speaker 3: maybe they'll sing songs of me the Allison will hair Okay, simp,
Speaker 3: calm down, calm down, I love him is insane love.
Speaker 1: The queen he loves. Allison and Helena are in the
Speaker 1: secret passageway is trying to get out. They go in,
Speaker 1: navigate their way down, but their torches go out, the
Speaker 1: doors inside are locked and now they're fucking trapped. Meanwhile, Damon,
Speaker 1: after his big speech, I guess was walking around the
Speaker 1: city is like, we're all the storms. I don't see anybody.
Speaker 1: So he goes to City Watch HQ to find out
Speaker 1: like where the patrols are, and he walks in on
Speaker 1: Largent and what looks to me like fifteen or twenty
Speaker 1: at of the City Watch, all dead at their table,
Speaker 1: big graffiti in back of them in blood that says
Speaker 1: calls them all traders.
Speaker 2: It's as feast betray as. Yeah, it's very lost, uppa,
Speaker 2: very very bad.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll be back. All
Speaker 1: the work and we're back. It's all going downhill, dude.
Speaker 1: It's about the extent that other than the rat feast,
Speaker 1: it feels like Rania is holding on by the slimmest
Speaker 1: of slimmest of slimmest of threads. Without the City Watch.
Speaker 1: Who's going to provide security in the capital now Tumbleton
Speaker 1: unsure what to do. She does have huge armies in
Speaker 1: the field and the most dragons, but she seems totally
Speaker 1: incapable of raising enough money to placate the people in
Speaker 1: the capitol. And it's just kind of groping around blind.
Speaker 1: She doesn't know where Aimond is, she doesn't know where
Speaker 1: Vaga is, she doesn't know what Ormond is doing in Tumbleton,
Speaker 1: doesn't know where the Triarchy guys are that are raiding
Speaker 1: the area. She doesn't know much right now.
Speaker 3: I agree, Jason, it's a worrying state of affairs for Vernera.
Speaker 3: I also think that there is something very insidious and
Speaker 3: unfortunately very natural that is unraveling here, which is Damon's
Speaker 3: ability to listen to a woman, or to listen to
Speaker 3: anyone in the small Council meeting. When he defies her
Speaker 3: and tells her he'll do it on his own time,
Speaker 3: I just think that's such a huge blow. Even if
Speaker 3: that's the case, he needs to pretend he listens to
Speaker 3: her in public, you know, like she is constantly being
Speaker 3: questioned and denied and the septum won't anoint her. She
Speaker 3: needs a yes man in public, and it should be Damon,
Speaker 3: but that's just not who he is. I fear what
Speaker 3: Damon will do to Missaria and the.
Speaker 2: Small folk post the Last Supper for the Gold.
Speaker 3: Do you know Reniera does kind of have that big
Speaker 3: conversation about how she feels like the gods are conspiring
Speaker 3: against her. Do you think that is hints of Targarian
Speaker 3: madness or do you think she is sensing a truth
Speaker 3: about what is to come?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean she's been fed this prophet which has
Speaker 1: some kind of basis in magical fact, that a Tarierian
Speaker 1: must be on the throne to defeat the White Walkers. However,
Speaker 1: she thinks that's her, and so there is kind of
Speaker 1: the first misstep when dealing with this kind of mystical thinking.
Speaker 1: But I think it's a very natural kind of thought
Speaker 1: process to wonder, if you've been told this, why everything
Speaker 1: is so difficult? And yes, I do agree. I think
Speaker 1: she's going to come. I think she's going to take
Speaker 1: a part of Damon's advice, which is, what did you
Speaker 1: think it was going to be easy? Just because like
Speaker 1: it's prophecy that this is going to happen, and she's
Speaker 1: going to combine that with this kind of prophetic ideology
Speaker 1: that she has, and I think she's going to come
Speaker 1: to a place where she just decides, I've maybe been
Speaker 1: a little too merciful, a little too soft, a little
Speaker 1: too sensitive to the opinion on the streets, and I
Speaker 1: need to just like fucking crack down. Why do I
Speaker 1: care that the septin won't annoy me. Let's find a
Speaker 1: guy who will exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean the fact she hasn't done that already in
Speaker 3: you know, let's say, from what we know about how
Speaker 3: Game of Thrones and Westeros was run later on, like
Speaker 3: it is kind of crazy that she does not just
Speaker 3: kind of take that charge.
Speaker 2: We've seen many other people do it. I think we
Speaker 2: will see her approach things that way.
Speaker 3: I'm very interested to see how she can keep the
Speaker 3: reins on Damon after this. I think that is going
Speaker 3: to be a big issue. I'm also going to bring
Speaker 3: up to me the elephant in the room, Ari Masaria,
Speaker 3: your most draftable player, Jason. She did she block the
Speaker 3: tunnel in Baylor's room that I think it was bricked up?
Speaker 3: Do you think that was done after the men went
Speaker 3: in to.
Speaker 1: Kill Jaris, Yeah, the kilken innocence, it was probably done
Speaker 1: after that. That said, that's amazing there, and it just
Speaker 1: might be the case that they got lost too.
Speaker 3: Though if she did, she should have already had that
Speaker 3: ship laid out, had a seventh go down and checked
Speaker 3: that it was open, because that's giving entombed in a
Speaker 3: fucking wine cella, Like, that's a ship, bro, And I
Speaker 3: don't want.
Speaker 2: Helena to go out that way.
Speaker 1: Well, I will say a failing of Targerian kings and
Speaker 1: rulers writ large since Megor has been a failure to
Speaker 1: map the tunnels in the ring. Huh, Like everybody knows
Speaker 1: they're there, but nobody knows where they go. No, it's
Speaker 1: kind of like hit or miss, like if you understand
Speaker 1: like where to get into them. Tyrian famously was able
Speaker 1: to use them to pop out and kill his dad
Speaker 1: on the shitter and and then escape the the castle.
Speaker 2: And as girlfriend too. Who nobody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just like completely misunderstood. And it seems like
Speaker 1: from administration to administration, if there is any kind of
Speaker 1: mapping or understanding of the geography of them, it is
Speaker 1: not passed on to the next group. So I'm not
Speaker 1: surprised that to find a dead end in there because
Speaker 1: people just don't. It's not they're not explored enough. And
Speaker 1: this is something that Turgerian's failed to do again and
Speaker 1: again and again, is really really explore those ons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm actually kind of surprised Otto didn't have a
Speaker 3: little blueprint map going you know that Allison could have
Speaker 3: or a little high tower blade.
Speaker 2: With some little you know, tunnel maps on it. Jason.
Speaker 2: Another thing I want to ask you then in that
Speaker 2: case is.
Speaker 3: Where are we going? And this is not a question
Speaker 3: because I don't, like I'm not following the series. I
Speaker 3: just think we are in a situation now where we
Speaker 3: know where Allison and Helena a trapped in a fucking
Speaker 3: like count of Montalado quinde of a situation like we
Speaker 3: love that cask of whatever it's called, Like we know
Speaker 3: that Ranera as fuck, she's blind to everything, Damon's mad.
Speaker 2: We have the fucking like Ormond is fucking ready, like
Speaker 2: he seems very prepared. But then we also have this entirely.
Speaker 3: Kind of separate issue with how Ranera is gonna respond
Speaker 3: to all of this? Will she danny out? Will she
Speaker 3: go crazy? What do you think we're gonna see? And
Speaker 3: how far into that are we gonna get as we
Speaker 3: head in because it seems like.
Speaker 2: A lot to deal with in a few episodes.
Speaker 1: I think I think we're the ultimate reveal has got
Speaker 1: to be what ormonds ski carp sleeve is. He's gotta
Speaker 1: have something. It seems like he's in too vulnerable a position.
Speaker 1: The Darren King play is so audacious. How can he
Speaker 1: be confident that he can be successful with this because
Speaker 1: clearly he is not a stupid man. So I think
Speaker 1: that's where we are heading, is okay, some sort of
Speaker 1: reveal of his plans. And I'm excited me too, because that's.
Speaker 2: Not books, So that's very exciting to me.
Speaker 3: Another big thing we get here, Jason, that I wanted
Speaker 3: to talk about because this is huge book stuff, but
Speaker 3: we've mentioned very vague. The aim and Alice stuff here
Speaker 3: is so fun. You see her kind of playing into
Speaker 3: those mother issues that he has. But there is also
Speaker 3: this flirtation between them. The men who come to raid
Speaker 3: Haron Hall when Aimon finally seems to recover, are you know, brigands.
Speaker 2: Their sexual assaults. They want to rape Alice.
Speaker 3: Aimen does not let that happen, and there is this
Speaker 3: very cathartic and brutal scene, but it's also very clear
Speaker 3: that this is now a toxic projection that Aimon has
Speaker 3: put onto Alice, a person who is essentially imprisoning him.
Speaker 3: Could you talk a little bit about how much more
Speaker 3: of that you think we're going to see and when
Speaker 3: we expect to see Amon kind of emerge from Haron Hall,
Speaker 3: if that would even be this season.
Speaker 1: I think he will emerge. He I think he will
Speaker 1: emerge this season. You know, this is one of the
Speaker 1: most mysterious plot points right books. I think that we
Speaker 1: will get We don't know what Alice's whole deal is,
Speaker 1: where does she come from, who is she? How old
Speaker 1: is she is? That, how she looks. Is she a
Speaker 1: shape shipter, is she some sort of Children of the
Speaker 1: Forest type, a magic dabbler, or like we we just
Speaker 1: don't know. And I think there will be some sort
Speaker 1: of reveal about what her the nature of her as
Speaker 1: a character, and what her intentions are, because clearly there
Speaker 1: they are centered around hairn Hall and and owning it somehow.
Speaker 1: She even says like, how dare you like attack me
Speaker 1: in the shadow of my own house? So she wants
Speaker 1: hair and Hall? But why and we've gotta I think
Speaker 1: we will figure that part of it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a moment in a note here, but I
Speaker 2: thought it was a really fun one.
Speaker 3: This kind of is a we get a big connection
Speaker 3: here thanks to Alan and Vania's conversation to the original
Speaker 3: Game of Thrones season, especially characters we love like Aria
Speaker 3: and the kind of settings of kings Landing. We see
Speaker 3: the cats, the ratcatcher cats running around the keep for
Speaker 3: the first time here redland the Landing. Could you talk
Speaker 3: a little bit about the cats and the role they playing?
Speaker 2: Kind of what that mean?
Speaker 1: The cats? They fired it, They fired all the rat catchers.
Speaker 1: This is the cheapest, most efficient solution to the problem,
Speaker 1: is like get the cats. And you know, I hadn't
Speaker 1: thought about it until now, but I think you're exactly
Speaker 1: right that these are the the cats that arises must
Speaker 1: be descendants of these original rights original cat army. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: we're going to continue to talk about House of the
Speaker 1: Dragon in this wonderful season. On the next episode of Exprivision, we're.
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Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.
Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abuza.
Speaker 3: Part Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan, and Bay Wag.
Speaker 1: Our theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme
Speaker 1: songs by Aaron Kaufman.
Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman, and
Speaker 3: Heidi our discord moderator.