WEBVTT - House of the Dragon S3E05

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<v Speaker 1>Warning. Today's episode contains spoilers for House of the Dragon

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<v Speaker 1>Season three, episode five, p one. Hello, my Namazation concepts

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<v Speaker 1>you on and I'm rosy night and welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>xt revision of the podcast, where we diveete into your

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<v Speaker 1>to you from my heart, where we're bringing you three

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<v Speaker 2>Las plus news plus nos.

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<v Speaker 3>In today's episode, Oh my gosh, guys, it's a crazy

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<v Speaker 3>week of fifth episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>We are we are freaking covering House of the Dragon.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you think it couldn't get any better? Did you

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<v Speaker 2>think they might let it down? Let you down gently?

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<v Speaker 3>No, this is one of the craziest episodes of the

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<v Speaker 3>season yet, and I could not believe where they went

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<v Speaker 3>with it, and everything about it made me so happy.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so much great character work in here, so many fun, scary,

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<v Speaker 3>incredible moments, so much gore. Be careful, so big tw

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't like dead animals or dead people.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is a bang at Jason, Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>We open up with a conversation between Lord Oscar Tully,

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<v Speaker 1>the young Lord of the Riverlands, and his northern uh help,

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<v Speaker 1>Lord Dustin in charge of the winter Wolves, and they

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<v Speaker 1>are searching now for a river crossing so they can

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<v Speaker 1>get to Tumblton and do something about Lord Ormond's forces

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<v Speaker 1>who were camped out in Tumbleton. But the problem is

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<v Speaker 1>every time they come to a bridge, it's been destroyed.

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<v Speaker 1>Kristen Cole's gorillas are like constant menace. They're lurking in

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<v Speaker 1>the forest. They're raiding them, they're hitting their supply lines,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're destroying They're destroying bridges like everywhere they go.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tully and Dustin are like, Okay, let's fight fire

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<v Speaker 1>with fire. We can do that too. Let's also do

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<v Speaker 1>a gorilla war. Let's also dirty. But before they can

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<v Speaker 1>really put the plane into action, Cole's forces raid the

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<v Speaker 1>camp five minutes after this conversation between Oscar and Lord Dustin,

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<v Speaker 1>kill a few guys, burn a bunch of tents, and

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<v Speaker 1>then disappear. We go to heron hall, we see the

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<v Speaker 1>blackboat that may or may not be Alice Rivers. The

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<v Speaker 1>Queen's mercenaries or whoever these guys are, enter the Haunted Castle.

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<v Speaker 1>They're looking for Amend. The Queen, of course, has been

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<v Speaker 1>hunting Aimond and Vagar for what for some weeks. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it seems Alice Rivers pops out. She's like, talks a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of ghostly, scary shit, and she kind of refers

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<v Speaker 1>to the castle as being a living thing. And then

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, you guys should leave because this is too

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<v Speaker 1>scary for you. It's scary time. And then she conjures

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<v Speaker 1>a flurry of bats that like right out of the

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<v Speaker 1>end of Batman begins, I was good to say, it's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely having a flashback, and then disappears in the mitror

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<v Speaker 1>like that was really scary. They leave. She goes to

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<v Speaker 1>Amon's bedside, where he is in the grips of a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>He is dreaming about a dragon and a castle, and

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<v Speaker 1>Alice holds him and he's of course recovering still from

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<v Speaker 1>his stab work.

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<v Speaker 3>And not that we needed this, because we obviously had

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<v Speaker 3>gotten it from the implications, but this is proof that

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<v Speaker 3>Amond is there, Alice is lying to everyone, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is that kind of mysterious time period between them, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're getting to see how that relationship grows, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is really great.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, we always said, amen, he had the face card,

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<v Speaker 3>he had the hair, he knew what he was doing.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is such a fantastic different side to him,

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<v Speaker 3>this kind of cowardly child. It's when he was a

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<v Speaker 3>kid again, It's when he was being bullied all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good like this shit enamored me to him.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is what Game of Ferns I think has

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<v Speaker 3>always done well, and how The Dragon does particularly well.

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<v Speaker 2>There are characters who.

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<v Speaker 3>Are evil, who you hate, but there are moments when

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<v Speaker 3>you root for them or when you kind of empathize

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<v Speaker 3>with them in unexpected ways, and I think this episode

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<v Speaker 3>did that for me for ament, even though I had

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<v Speaker 3>to keep checking myself and reminding myself who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>So we go to the Red keep Master a while

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<v Speaker 1>off of the reveal at the end of the previous episode,

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<v Speaker 1>is delivering some moon tea, some plan tee to Alison's chambers.

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<v Speaker 1>We know it's for Helena, but Allison doesn't really tell

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<v Speaker 1>him that, and he tells her listen, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge risk for me, sneaking around behind the Queen's back.

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<v Speaker 1>I am being watched. They don't really trust me, So

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<v Speaker 1>this is it. I can't do this kind of thing anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't help you in any kind of way

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<v Speaker 1>without first clearing it with the queen, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>letting her know what I'm up to. Okay, so sorry. Helena,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, doesn't want to drink the moon tea. No,

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<v Speaker 1>and Alison tries to explain to her, We're in a

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<v Speaker 1>very tenuous situation. It's very dangerous for you and for

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<v Speaker 1>this unborn child. What if it's a boy, then that

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<v Speaker 1>is the heir to the throne and Helena would have

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<v Speaker 1>to kill him.

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<v Speaker 2>Would have to, yeah, and Ranera would kill them, but.

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<v Speaker 1>She would do it, and she would do I mean

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<v Speaker 1>she would to be fair, she would have to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And it's not a moral choice for her, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a political choice, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And Alison is like, listen, I've taken it many times. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Raniera has taken Every woman here is taking it. We're

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<v Speaker 1>all this is how you this is how things are done.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody talks about it, but this is how it's done.

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<v Speaker 1>Drink it. And Helena's like.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I gotta say.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Alison flopped the argument because the moment that

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<v Speaker 3>she's like, hey, me and Ranera both did this, and

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<v Speaker 3>look at how it saved us, look at our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>And Helena's like, I don't fucking want your if you just.

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<v Speaker 1>Put it, I think you just this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>terrible that I'm saying this out loud. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>just put it in her wine.

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<v Speaker 2>Or I'm shocked Alison didn't just put it in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, I don't want that for Helena. And like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the right thing to say, but like.

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<v Speaker 1>This is that moral formulation, that moral formulation. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to be clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's only in Game of Thrones, and like, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm shocked Allison is at her most scheming hare and

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<v Speaker 3>she doesn't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>That shows I love for Helena. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Sabbath Afrey in the small Council chamber is complaining that

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't yet have hair in hall. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>deal Jay said, come and as part of the negotiation

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<v Speaker 1>agreement that allowed the Northmen to cross the Twins, the Phraser'

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to get hair in hall. And Sabbatha is not

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in hair and hall right now, and she's really, really,

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<v Speaker 1>really really complaining about it. She pushes almost too hard,

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<v Speaker 1>and Renier basically says, listen, you have a council seat.

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<v Speaker 1>That should be enough. For you and we'll deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the Harron Hall issue later and Sabbath accepts that they

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Council chamber for the meeting.

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Adam, Yeah, I just got to say, as Rena

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<v Speaker 3>as pr person, is she failing again here at common diplomacy?

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<v Speaker 1>I fear she. I think she is. I think she

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<v Speaker 1>should say. I mean, I don't understand why she doesn't say, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>gather your free army and march it to heron Hall. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>take it and you will stay here as the as

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<v Speaker 1>part of my suppall council. But if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>put an army at heron Hall and hold it that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's wrong with that?

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<v Speaker 2>Why not do that kill the people who come looking

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<v Speaker 2>for Amond?

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, well, it might be it might be that

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<v Speaker 1>a large part of her forces are with Oscar Talley

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<v Speaker 1>marching you know, by dribs and drabs towards Tumbleton. So

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<v Speaker 1>it might be that she doesn't have a huge But

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<v Speaker 1>like I think that would be a solution. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that she's necessarily failing, but she should make it

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<v Speaker 1>clear that listen, you will get heron Hall soon, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know now is not the time. If that's indeed

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<v Speaker 1>with the formulation she's using. Anyway, we go to the

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<v Speaker 1>small Council, Balen Adam bring the news that Vagar has

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<v Speaker 1>burned a bunch of stuff in the riverlands and flew

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<v Speaker 1>off and now no one knows where. Damon says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to that, we had basically a riot at

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<v Speaker 1>the dragon Gate, you know, hungry people just going crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>and he blames Missaria, basically saying Massaria is like beloved

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<v Speaker 1>fucking poor people. She was supposed to be like the

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<v Speaker 1>poor people whisper.

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<v Speaker 2>And where is her whispering?

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<v Speaker 1>Where is the stuff? Like she's not able to control them?

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<v Speaker 1>And Missaria says, well, really the issue is the city Watch.

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<v Speaker 1>She's there to brew. They react to any small thing

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<v Speaker 1>with like the utmost violence. And Damon comes back with, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you think so. Like the thin gold line of the

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<v Speaker 1>city Watch is all that stands between the population and anarchy.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had two city Watch people murdered by unknown agents

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<v Speaker 1>of Lord Ormond. Probably. Meanwhile, there's the other question of Ormond,

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<v Speaker 1>ty Tower and Tumbleton. What do they do. The debate

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<v Speaker 1>is between sending Damon's army after him or Damon's perspective

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<v Speaker 1>is why don't we just burn the whole fucking thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just but he's sick of it. He doesn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to play the parma. I want to say, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to shout out Emma Darcy here. Their acting in this

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<v Speaker 3>episode is so wild and we get this great kind

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<v Speaker 3>of and I'm not the first person to notice this.

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<v Speaker 3>This is an internet thing, but there is more dragon

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<v Speaker 3>in their performance every single episode.

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<v Speaker 2>They act less and less like a thoughtful.

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<v Speaker 3>Human and more like somebody whose neck is always snapping,

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<v Speaker 3>always shocked, always on the watch.

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<v Speaker 2>And this conversation with Damon is so like that, it's

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<v Speaker 2>so lizard like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so about trying to understand Ranier's position in this

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<v Speaker 3>more council, and it's so fucking good.

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<v Speaker 1>This is such a great I think Ranier is gradually

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<v Speaker 1>coming to the conclusion that listen, I'm trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>It would obviously be a peer disaster, not to mention,

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<v Speaker 1>morally wrong to wipe out Tumbleton through dragonfire and kill

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of my own supporters. But I think she's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gradually arriving at the conclusion that Mercy is not

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<v Speaker 1>getting her anywhere, and she is gradually gravitating naturally towards

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<v Speaker 1>a more authoritarian outlook, but we will see. Or while

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<v Speaker 1>brings news that on the army marching to Tumulton Front

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<v Speaker 1>poster Tully is trying to get there, but Kristen Colesman

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<v Speaker 1>are making it really really hard, burning the bridges, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Rania orders Bayla and Adam to the riverlands, tells them

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<v Speaker 1>locate Aimond, locate Vagar, tell us where they are. Adam says, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go, but we need like lunch and stuff for us,

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<v Speaker 1>and Baila is like, no, I can go right now, hah,

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<v Speaker 1>because she is desperate to get back into Nia's good

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<v Speaker 1>favor after she believes being blamed by Rania for Jayce's death,

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<v Speaker 1>which is true.

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<v Speaker 3>It's true doing that, But I also do think that

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<v Speaker 3>Beyla's own guilt is making it heavier.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Ranera blame stuck in everyone that's you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's it.

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<v Speaker 3>She does blame Baylor, and she's not doing a good

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<v Speaker 3>job being a stepmom, aunt, cousin or whatever the fuck

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<v Speaker 3>she is. Toha, but this is also about Bayla, But

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say I'm love it this Adam characterization

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<v Speaker 3>where he is kind of the one who's like he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't raised by royals. He doesn't care what the queen says.

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<v Speaker 3>To a certain extent, he wants his workers, he wants

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<v Speaker 3>his colleague in this case Bela, to be fed and

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<v Speaker 3>slept so they can do their best. I thought this

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<v Speaker 3>was such a telling interaction between them all.

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<v Speaker 1>It. Rania eventually orders Damon to go to the riverlands

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<v Speaker 1>and just scout the area. Damon says, Okay, I'll go,

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<v Speaker 1>but we need to take care of the city watches

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<v Speaker 1>under immense pressure. They're not being paid. They're the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing again keeping the capitol from descending into complete chaos,

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<v Speaker 1>and you need to figure out something for them right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And Sabbath fray. Meanwhile, I was looking around like, believe

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<v Speaker 1>this is what O meeting is Like, this is nuts.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we talk about that, Jason, because again, when we

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<v Speaker 3>talk about Raniera's short term choices, rain now being on

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<v Speaker 3>the council sitting next to that smamy motherfucker that she

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<v Speaker 3>put as master of coin and he's given her all

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<v Speaker 3>the juice.

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<v Speaker 2>They're calling Massaria a whore.

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<v Speaker 3>They're assassin about how people got jobs, bastards upgraded to

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<v Speaker 3>counsel and the hand and shit this, to me is

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<v Speaker 3>bad planning on her nearest part. Is there a version

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<v Speaker 3>of this where these two just keep each other busy

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<v Speaker 3>with gossip so it's less dangerous or do you think

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<v Speaker 3>this choice will bite her in the butt the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of random small council appointment she's making.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's trying to do something good, which is

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<v Speaker 1>to reward her supporters. But I think she's doing it

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<v Speaker 1>very poorly because she's not choosing based on any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of competence level for the job. I mean, sorry, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>is the main offender.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, Jesus a fire Massaria get rid of her, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck is she doing?

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<v Speaker 4>She tell me when she has ever come with well,

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<v Speaker 4>some juicy intelligence one time.

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<v Speaker 3>We will end up at the end of this episode

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<v Speaker 3>asking that very question again, I think, but I do

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<v Speaker 3>agree with you. I don't think that these are smart choices.

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<v Speaker 3>And it feels to me that there was something very

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<v Speaker 3>ominous about the kind of open disregard for Rania, like

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<v Speaker 3>the sassing of talking about a targarian that way. You know, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>the whore who advises her, you know, the they would

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<v Speaker 3>never have said that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>In front of a series.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a man who chopped a man's face in

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<v Speaker 3>half of saying the kids who are bastards were obviously bastards.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think this Obviously we're going to get a

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<v Speaker 3>bigger moment of this with Damon. But I think this

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<v Speaker 3>kind of highlights that Raniera does not have the power

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<v Speaker 3>or sway or fear.

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<v Speaker 2>That she thinks she everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everything's just moving way too fast. Agree Ranier

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<v Speaker 1>and Damon argue privately about her authority and orders. Damon says, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll deal with Aymond and Vagar after the city Watch

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<v Speaker 1>thing is taken care of. We really need to to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of that, and he makes the case that

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<v Speaker 1>Renier needs to stop caring about the graffiti and just

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<v Speaker 1>get on with ruling the capitol, like, stop worrying about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We go to Laris and Eggon. They're stumbling around the forest.

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<v Speaker 1>Egon is this is I mean we talked about Emma Darcy,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Glencarney is great.

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<v Speaker 5>This this.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he is coming up for a little Emmy

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<v Speaker 3>contention off this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Man his So he goes on an Eggon goes on

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<v Speaker 1>a little monologue here where he basically says, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my parents favored Aimoned. They taught him everything. He was

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect little boy. He was so great with the swords,

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<v Speaker 1>he claimed vagar and he basically winges a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's Tom Glencarney's performance is so wounded and so bitter,

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<v Speaker 1>but also like there is there's just some of the

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<v Speaker 1>brattiness of egg On in previous seasons is toned down,

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<v Speaker 1>where he's just been vulnerable in a way that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not used to seeing from him, and it really lands.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Damn, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm literally I get it, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm literally like tearing up because I do think that

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<v Speaker 3>there is this kind of unbelievable little triptick here where

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<v Speaker 3>you get the Aimond moment and you hear Aimon's fears

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<v Speaker 3>and how he knows he was the most loved, but

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<v Speaker 3>how he worshiped his brother and how that was like

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<v Speaker 3>never really received, and then you get egg On and

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<v Speaker 3>you get this really vulnerable moment of him talking about

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<v Speaker 3>his position, and you buy into both of them because

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<v Speaker 3>the performances are so good.

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<v Speaker 2>But then the real gut punch moment for me is Laris.

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<v Speaker 3>His response to egg On is so fantastic, and it

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<v Speaker 3>is this kind of monologue ready moment where he basically

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<v Speaker 3>just says, hey, actually, your whole life you've had.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the but that you're you're right, but yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>go for it. Missaria goes to see Alison. She's heard

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<v Speaker 1>about the potion. She's learned about the potion through one

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<v Speaker 1>of her spies in the castle.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally she's doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa okay, but like, okay, so part one is finding

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<v Speaker 1>out about the moon tea. Part two in doing your

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<v Speaker 1>job is like correctly assess what's going on. Alison very

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<v Speaker 1>deftly and with ease, fools Messaria into believing that the

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<v Speaker 1>moon tea is for her, and she drinks it in

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<v Speaker 1>front of her, and Massaria tries to like lightly grill

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<v Speaker 1>Alison about who had knocked her up, but of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Alison manages to wiggle out of that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry but if this is I'm sorry, but if if

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<v Speaker 1>Missaria fans want to use this as a feather in

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<v Speaker 1>their cap from Masaria doing good job, she failed it again.

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<v Speaker 1>She got bamboozled by Alice.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta say this is I love Alison. We know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an Allison apologist.

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<v Speaker 3>Her homosexuality has changed the entire source material and we

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<v Speaker 3>love her for it. But This is Allison at her

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<v Speaker 3>most fucking conniving, and it's kind of cool to see

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<v Speaker 3>Olivia cook back at it. I mean, I was so

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<v Speaker 3>shocked in this moment by how easily manipulated Massaria was.

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<v Speaker 2>The I texted the x Ray Vision group chat was like,

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<v Speaker 2>is this gonna be a fucking love triangle? Like, is

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<v Speaker 2>Alison gonna manipulate her Laris style?

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<v Speaker 3>There's this great these great moments of knowing where Alison

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<v Speaker 3>tries to play on the fact that they both care

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<v Speaker 3>about Raniera, they've both known Raniera, and also like, guess

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<v Speaker 3>what Raniera knows that I have a fucking boyfriend, and

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<v Speaker 3>she uh knows a bit well about herself, and Massiria

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<v Speaker 3>tries to kind of poke and imply that she knows

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<v Speaker 3>it's Kristen Cole.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so well done. But Alison fucking wins.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is that conniving, old town, fucking high tower

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<v Speaker 3>bitch that we have not seen for a while, because

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<v Speaker 3>she's gonna do whatever it takes to keep Helena and

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<v Speaker 3>the baby safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly, Cole and GWayne are tromping through the woods and

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<v Speaker 1>GWayne is discussing Ormond, basically saying he's a thin skin twat,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's a very very smart guy, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>he's a capable fire and he then says, man, old Town,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta see it. You got to see it when

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<v Speaker 1>the sun is rising over West russ from the from

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<v Speaker 1>the high tower. It's so good. You gotta come there.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll hang out like you're doing a job. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's everything. Let's get away from all this, Like when

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<v Speaker 1>this is done, let's go to old Town. Come with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's just brow out. Then suddenly the horses start

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<v Speaker 1>screaming and falling down, and we see that Oscar Tully

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<v Speaker 1>and Dustin have spread these little sharp metal coltrops is

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<v Speaker 1>what they call them in real life, but in the

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<v Speaker 1>world they call him crow's feet and they get stuck

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<v Speaker 1>into the horses feet and cripple them. Basically, so put

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<v Speaker 1>his horse out of its misery. Damon talks to Captain Largent,

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<v Speaker 1>Commander Largent of the City Watch, and he's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys went a little overbord in the graffiti. Shit, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to shill out. Largin is like, well, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you want me to do? My guys are getting like

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<v Speaker 1>disemboweled in the streets and nobody knows what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and Damon's like, well, I know exactly what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I Am going to make a big speech then, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna lift their spirits. But before he can do that,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some screams from nearby alley and they find two

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<v Speaker 1>more guys with their guts cut open in an alley.

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<v Speaker 1>These are Ormond spies that are doing this, and we

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<v Speaker 1>watch the one of them send the latest update, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess to Ormond and Tumbleton via Pigeon. Ormond is managing

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the hardening of Tumbleton. He chats with

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<v Speaker 1>Darren about history and about leadership and politics, and tests

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<v Speaker 1>Darren about his understanding of both of those subjects. Ormond

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<v Speaker 1>gives a very praiseful history of Mariah Martel, the Yellow

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<v Speaker 1>Toad of Dorn, who resisted the first Eggon's repeated attempts

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<v Speaker 1>to conquer Dorn in a using gorilla tactics. In a

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<v Speaker 1>very very smart and ruthless way. Ormond tells Darren that

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<v Speaker 1>the Targerians never understood the culture of west Ross, the

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<v Speaker 1>various cultures of Wes west Rosi civilization. Then Darren makes

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<v Speaker 1>a winning move in Cyvass and Ormand gets really mad

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<v Speaker 1>really really really fucking mad. But then like flips on,

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<v Speaker 1>Diamond tells Darren never ever apologize for making a winning move.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he's like, I gotta show you something. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna love this. Oh no, and he goes into his

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<v Speaker 1>little person. He pulls out a coin and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I had you minted as king Darren, so guess what

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<v Speaker 1>your ring begins now. So this is obviously a huge

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<v Speaker 1>problem because I mean, insane mood, I would consider it

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<v Speaker 1>a long shot that Darren takes the throne, but now

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<v Speaker 1>he's been kind of forced into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Jason is when we think about kind of just on

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<v Speaker 3>a minimal TLDR level, like this doesn't seem like a

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<v Speaker 3>smart Marshall play to me from Ormond, do you think

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<v Speaker 3>he has the backing and the support that we just

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<v Speaker 3>don't know about?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that he thinks. I think he's got

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<v Speaker 1>more irons in the fire than he's letting on this.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what.

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<v Speaker 1>We are circling around because everybody keeps saying Riniera keep

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<v Speaker 1>saying why tumbled him, Why he's got something else?

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<v Speaker 4>What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna find out, I think at some point. But

0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:03.680
<v Speaker 1>he's clearly got an another part to his grand plan,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not just hunker down and tumbledon and wait

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<v Speaker 1>for the attack. Like He's got some other thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>we will see in the gods Wood of the Red Keep.

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<v Speaker 1>Alison again goes to Helena and she's now like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to get out of here. Okay, we need

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<v Speaker 1>to go right now because our lives are in jeopardy

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<v Speaker 1>here and I have bribed a maid to help them,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna use the secret tunnels. We're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>out through Baylor's room and we're gonna leave. And Helene

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:42.199
<v Speaker 1>is like, well, what about Yourhara mm hmmm. Alison's like, well,

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have to leave her because they're just gonna

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:45.560
<v Speaker 1>slow us down. And Helene is like, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. And Alison is like, listen, Ranier is

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:53.400
<v Speaker 1>not going to kill like a baby girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I swear she's a queen who was raised above men,

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<v Speaker 2>but she would do that. She would never think somebody

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<v Speaker 2>else would do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, I promise, like, when we get out

0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>of here, we will send for her one day. But

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Helena like knows for sure that Alison is lying, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're right back. More emphasis and we're back. Adam Bayla

0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 1>continue to pursue Vagar, but there are always like several

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 1>steps behind. They talk about the fact that Bayla takes

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot of the guilt of Jase's death and

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 1>she's trying to make up for it by finding Vagar.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam meanwhile, is like, we got to take We're just

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:51.639
<v Speaker 1>working too hard. We need some downtime, we need to rest,

0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 1>like we need some quality time for ourselves. Like maybe

0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 1>we'll go out and have a date. Like it's clear

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 1>that he has a crush on her exactly. It's whatever

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>he's says you and he's kind of like, don't.

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:07.400
<v Speaker 5>Worry, like I'll save you, like if you get married away,

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<v Speaker 5>like I'll get you back, Like and we can as

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<v Speaker 5>long as we eat some delicious apple and cheese fast

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<v Speaker 5>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>He really wants that to snack. He's on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Amond in heron Hall is having another nightmare. He weaks

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 1>up and he finds that Alice is at his bedside,

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and he's like he had this weird feeling about Vagar,

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:32.200
<v Speaker 1>and Alice tells her. Alice tells him that Vagar flew away,

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and apparently, like this shouldn't happen, right, But somehow their

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:43.200
<v Speaker 1>bond has been broken, and Aimond is very troubled by this.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes to the balcony, he's looking out over the skies.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't see her, he can't feel her, he says, Without her,

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<v Speaker 1>I am nothing, And he just doesn't know what to do. Now.

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:57.960
<v Speaker 1>He realizes that King's landing has fallen, that Eggon is dead,

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 1>that he killed him, and the you know, the realm

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:05.920
<v Speaker 1>probably believes that he killed him. So Alice, you know,

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>is continuing to mother Aimen through this like really darkness.

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeahs soule.

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 3>I also want to ask a question here about the bond, Jason.

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 3>Is this something that you think Alice and Haroen Hall

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 3>could be behind, like some kind of spiritual ac cult

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 3>separation or distance, almost like a you know, the Sleeping

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Beauty of it all where everyone was asleep in the

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 3>castle and nobody could get through the thorns, Like is

0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 3>that it? Or is this a true broken bond where

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 3>Vega could maybe even be claimed by somebody else.

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 1>I doubt that, I think it. It might be the

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 1>magic of her itself. Like that's why I think, you know,

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>because he is being drawn closer and closer into like

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>the bosom of this weird, magical place. Eggon meanwhile, has

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>fallen into despair. Even deeper into despair, he realizes, like,

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm never getting to wend Dishtown to kill Aimen, Like

0:26:57.720 --> 0:26:59.880
<v Speaker 1>that's the odds of doing that are very, very slim.

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>My dragon is dead. My mom never loved me. I

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 1>thought Amen was the better one. And the whole realm

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>thinks that he killed me. And that's so embarrassing. And

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:17.479
<v Speaker 1>Laris now comes back with sick All you do is complain,

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and this brutal monologs.

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.959
<v Speaker 2>So many people are going to be monologuing this as drama.

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:26.440
<v Speaker 2>It's so good. It's such a fucking powerful performance.

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 3>And I love in this moment that Laris fucking knows

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 3>that Eggon fucking relies on him and needs him to survive,

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 3>so he can fucking say whatever the fuck he wants,

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 3>and he does so.

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>He basically says, listen, you've had you were born with

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 1>a golden spoon in your mouth. You're named after the conqueror.

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Your dragon is so beautiful they named it after the sun.

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>You had the best nights training. You like, give me

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 1>a fucking break.

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 2>You could have done anything, bitch, and you just drunk

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:55.159
<v Speaker 2>it and raped it away, because this is like, this

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 2>is like.

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:59.199
<v Speaker 1>Steph Curry calling himself an underdog. It's like you were

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.159
<v Speaker 1>raised by an end be a player and have the

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>best like professional training, like from the youngest age. Give

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>me a break.

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:06.399
<v Speaker 4>And so.

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 1>It's this incredible scene, and it's unclear it seems to

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>break egg on a little bit because Laris basically says

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>like you had all these advantages and in the end

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>all you did was fuck random whorrors and drown him

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:29.360
<v Speaker 1>media and you were a terrible king and a terrible man,

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>which is a parmer blow. Raniera goes to the sept

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 1>and she's praying. Part of this is clearly like a

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 1>pr stunt because she's trying to get the faith on

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>her side so that she can be anointed. Damon comes

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 1>in and just like a laughs you're doing this. He

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>kneels and they speak in high Valarian. Raniera is like, listen,

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I admit that I was wrong about a bunch of stuff,

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>but you know, particularly about the city Watch, and the

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>importance of the city Watch right now and the security

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>of our government because the enemy is clearly inside the

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 1>walls needs to be confronted and Raniera is feeling that.

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>We get the sense that maybe this isn't all a

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Pierre stunt, because she's saying, right, the gods have forsaken me,

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Like if the gods were for me, why is everything

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 1>so hard?

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 2>And he was trying to strike me down.

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Damon gives a great version of the Laris speech

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>where he's babe, are you fucking kidding? Like you thought

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>it was gonna be easy. You thought it was gonna

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>be summer all the time and everything. Raniera, we love you,

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>we love you, we love you. No, it's gonna be hard.

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be very hard. There are people in this

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>country who will never ever support you because you're a woman, period,

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and you need to accept that that's reality.

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. I love this writing. I also want to.

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Say I thought about you a lot while I was

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 3>watching this, Jason, this scene like both the times I

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 3>watched it, because this, to me is you use this

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 3>phrase a lot that the Targarians are Aliens and west Rows,

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 3>and I totally understand it on a conceptual level. This

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 3>is the first scene where I feel like I saw it.

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't stop thinking about it. Like Raniera is trying

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 3>so hard to understand why any of this soothes people,

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 3>why they care about it, how it gives them hope,

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 3>because she fucking wants that. But her and Daemon are

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 3>They're like tourists looking at each other, and everyone is

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 3>watching them, and everyone is trying to not watch them,

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 3>and they are so conspicuous, and they are so alien,

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 3>and her head is dipping and diving like a dragon.

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 3>This was the moment where I thought, oh, they are

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 3>aliens here, like they actually do not understand it. And

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 3>this is one of the first times I feel like

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 3>I've seen a targarian who isn't doing as much of

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 3>a good job.

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 2>At covering it up. Like Raniera seems lost here. This

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 2>does not seem like where she grew up.

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Laris Eggon give up on the Wendish Town revenge mission

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>or Eggon does they arrived back at Rook's Rest. I

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>don't think they got very far. They probably like seriously

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>bad times, so they come back. And it's clear that

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Laris's little speech really affected egg On because he sits

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>down and basically says, all right, hire the ship to Bravos,

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>let's get out of here. I like my business here

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 1>has done, like you're let's go with your original plan

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and let's just get out. And then someone says, what

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>ship would that be? And it's folks, it's Thailand, Lanister

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 1>so Vive the Battle of the Gullet.

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 6>He's alive, crazy and this matter is pissed to every provosi.

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 2>He hates every prophosa.

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 5>He is.

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 2>He's a guy who went to Thailand and got fucked

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 2>over biosex. So he tried to abuse that.

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 6>He's not happy about it, like it's so funny, bro,

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 6>you fucked up, but he is so mad about it.

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 2>It's so fucking fun Like he's such an idiot. But

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 2>he's alive. He's alive. Jason.

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>In the Red Keep, Alison and Helena disguise themselves as

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:10.959
<v Speaker 1>maids and they're about to leave when Massaria discovers them.

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Alison then bamboozles Massaria again, convincing her basically by saying, hey,

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>this is useful information. Maybe you'll be able to use

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>it somehow, Like I understand you're in this, locked in

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>this war of wills with Damon. This like weird love

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>triangle in which you believe that you're in love with

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Raniera and every time she pays attention to you, you

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>light up but you need to realize something. She and

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Damon are two sides of the same coin. She is

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>never fucking leaving him for you. You need to get

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 1>over it. And you need to take this information that

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you have about where we're going and how he left

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and have that as a coin in your purse for later.

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>So keep your fucking mouth shut, give up on the

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>idea that Raniera is ever going to be with you.

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>And we're leaving, okay, And by the way, look around.

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Do you think Rniera is doing great? The high towers

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 1>very well may take back the city, and when they do,

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you have information about where we went. So fuck off.

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 1>We're leaving and they leave, and Massaria absolutely goes for it.

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 7>And once again, as I don't know what the doing

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 7>this is, I will when we get to the end

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 7>of this episode, we will question what Massari is up to.

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I gotta say, I think Alison, speaking of

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 3>things going too fast, my baby girl, my queen, this

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 3>is a really fucking dangerous play because you don't know.

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:41.719
<v Speaker 2>How in deep she is to Ranera. I know, al

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean she.

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 8>Read her down, she did, she read her the fuckah

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 8>she realized she realized just from looks across the room

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 8>that Missaria was in love with Raniera.

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, bitch, because she was also in love with Raniera.

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 3>And also I do think that Allison's like, well, I

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 3>did this with Kristin Cole, so I think I can

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 3>probably do it with Massiria, which I kind of love

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 3>her logic. But I also feel like, oh, I just

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 3>love this scene because it's the moment when she says like,

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, you stand in like the warm light of

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 3>her gaze.

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, okay, Allison, calm it down, lesbian. But yeah,

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:20.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man.

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.800
<v Speaker 3>I think this is a fucking dangerous play by Alison

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 3>because it immediately pits her against Raniera and makes her

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 3>seem like she is complicit in whatever the high Towers

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.439
<v Speaker 3>are doing, which we don't think she is, but she's

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 3>like kind of trying to win along by it to

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 3>protect the babes.

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but it was a dumb plan. The

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 2>ending is not looking good for anyone.

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, to her credit, she's trying to save an

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 1>unborn child's life.

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:46.280
<v Speaker 3>No I know, and I love Helenea, so do whatever

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 3>you can to save Helena because she is one of

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 3>the few good people in the Sea, so I support her,

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 3>but I do think it's a dangerous swing. That is

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.439
<v Speaker 3>the first time she's really gone against Rnier since she's

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 3>been her prisoner.

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 1>More guys arrive at heron hall looking for aimand they

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 1>sees Alice. Aimond pops out kills them all. Alice helps

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:14.399
<v Speaker 1>a little bit and they are all dead. And yes,

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Tyland Lanister, back in Rook's rest, argues with Laris about

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 1>the ship escape plan. He's like, I don't like it.

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, you know why he doesn't like it.

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>This guy is very, very anti sea voyage. After his

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>last several months, he went all the way to Essos

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>to pick up to get fucking Admiral Lohar on his side.

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 1>It was a terrible fucking experience. Then he got thrown

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>overboard during the Battle of the Gullet, barely survived. And

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>so at this point he is anti large bodies of water.

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.360
<v Speaker 1>This guy is not getting on a ship. You cannot

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>force him on a ship at gunpoint. He's not getting

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>on a ship. Laris is like, well, listen, I got

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>money in Bravos. I got a big house over there.

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 1>We can live in the great style over there. Like,

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to miss a single thing. Tyland Lanister, though,

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>is like, I got a better idea. We go overland

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 1>to Lanisport, one of the great castles of the realm,

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 1>built on a gold mine. You want to talk about gold,

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about money, you want to talk

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>about safety. How about we got it over there? And

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Lannis is like, oh, very interesting plan. You want to

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 1>take Eggon to your own castle where you're gonna have

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>him as your cat's baw blah blah blah blah blah.

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:22.879
<v Speaker 1>As this argument is unfolding, Janos, the local tough guy

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>manager of the piss Bucket operation, comes and is like, oh,

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:31.760
<v Speaker 1>what ship are we talking about and pulls Eggon's crown

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>out of his bag. So Eggon stabs the shit out

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:35.359
<v Speaker 1>and kills him.

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Why is Eggon carrying that crowd around in a bag

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 3>like he's fucking Rapunzels from Tangled? I know you gotta

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 3>have it in like at least two bags, I would say,

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.359
<v Speaker 3>and then another bag. And also I have to say,

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I speaking of how good Tom Connie's being in this,

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 3>I love the ferocity with which Eggon kills this man,

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 3>Like it's so violent, it's so vicious and it's so

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 3>much of his anger that we've seen in this episode.

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 2>And when he says you can call me your grace

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:07.280
<v Speaker 2>as he stabs him in the throat, and look, it's.

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 6>Very dumb, and Laris and Tyler Monister are like, fuck,

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 6>this guy's an idiot. But you get this moment of like,

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 6>oh shit, like Eggon's different when he comes back, it's

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 6>going to be a problem.

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Damon makes his speech to the City watch boys, and

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a fucking doozy. It's a great one classic.

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 4>He's like, you know, the capital, all that stands between

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 4>the Capitol and chaos and insurgency is us.

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's us, boys.

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:41.879
<v Speaker 4>When the empire's expanding, who will be first to dip

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 4>their hands in the t's gonna be wearing some silks six.

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 2>Months down the line. And they all fall for.

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 1>It, by the way, they're going crazy and he wins

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 1>them over. Colesman meanwhile approached Stoney scept behind that sadly

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the river crossing has been burned by the Rivermen, and

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.319
<v Speaker 1>GWayne is like hanging by a thread.

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 2>He's lost it.

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 3>And also, I want to say this is a really

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 3>interesting episode for fans of hating Kristin Cole, I like myself, Bro,

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.479
<v Speaker 3>He's going through it. They're getting leaked, They're getting fucking

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 3>stabbed by thorns. It's like nature itself is against their quest.

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 3>And I love to see this man despair. I'm really

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 3>interested to see where this goes for Coal and GWayne,

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 3>because that has been an interesting pairing, and I think

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 3>that where we leave it is very interesting.

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Damon and Largent torture one of Ormond's spies. They want

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 1>to know, you know, how many are they? Where are they?

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:48.879
<v Speaker 1>The man shows them a coin that he has hidden

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 1>on him, and apparently the coin of King Darren has

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 1>already made its way to the capitol. It's already spreading around.

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:59.879
<v Speaker 1>Gwaen tries to lift cole spirits by just being like, listen,

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, we could go to Tumbledon,

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 1>we go anywhere, you know. Yeah. Cole is like the

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 1>path is set before me. I'm gonna pursue the riverman,

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm going down with the ship. Basically, I

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Am going to fight until I die. And Gwen's like,

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 1>but we've lost half her guys already, and everybody's like

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>sick and tired, and you know, slogging through the mud.

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:27.320
<v Speaker 1>They got leeches on their balls, like we're gonna terrible

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 1>and calls like, well, guess what I want to That's

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>how I want to go out, and gween Is is

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 1>dumbfounded by this.

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 3>Also gotta say, simp Cole forever, because he did say

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 3>he tells a sad story.

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 2>He wants to die. He wants to die and Glory

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 2>be killed in his own way because the Greens and the.

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 3>Blacks have always used them. And then he says, and

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 3>maybe they'll sing songs of me the Allison will hair Okay, simp,

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:52.399
<v Speaker 3>calm down, calm down, I love him is insane love.

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>The queen he loves. Allison and Helena are in the

0:39:56.640 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>secret passageway is trying to get out. They go in,

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 1>navigate their way down, but their torches go out, the

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:11.960
<v Speaker 1>doors inside are locked and now they're fucking trapped. Meanwhile, Damon,

0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 1>after his big speech, I guess was walking around the

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:16.880
<v Speaker 1>city is like, we're all the storms. I don't see anybody.

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So he goes to City Watch HQ to find out

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 1>like where the patrols are, and he walks in on

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Largent and what looks to me like fifteen or twenty

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>at of the City Watch, all dead at their table,

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 1>big graffiti in back of them in blood that says

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>calls them all traders.

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:39.240
<v Speaker 2>It's as feast betray as. Yeah, it's very lost, uppa,

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 2>very very bad.

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Let's take a quick break and we'll be back. All

0:40:44.400 --> 0:41:04.879
<v Speaker 1>the work and we're back. It's all going downhill, dude.

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>It's about the extent that other than the rat feast,

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:14.759
<v Speaker 1>it feels like Rania is holding on by the slimmest

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 1>of slimmest of slimmest of threads. Without the City Watch.

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Who's going to provide security in the capital now Tumbleton

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 1>unsure what to do. She does have huge armies in

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 1>the field and the most dragons, but she seems totally

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:36.360
<v Speaker 1>incapable of raising enough money to placate the people in

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the capitol. And it's just kind of groping around blind.

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't know where Aimond is, she doesn't know where

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Vaga is, she doesn't know what Ormond is doing in Tumbleton,

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know where the Triarchy guys are that are raiding

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the area. She doesn't know much right now.

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I agree, Jason, it's a worrying state of affairs for Vernera.

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 3>I also think that there is something very insidious and

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 3>unfortunately very natural that is unraveling here, which is Damon's

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 3>ability to listen to a woman, or to listen to

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 3>anyone in the small Council meeting. When he defies her

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 3>and tells her he'll do it on his own time,

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.879
<v Speaker 3>I just think that's such a huge blow. Even if

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 3>that's the case, he needs to pretend he listens to

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 3>her in public, you know, like she is constantly being

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 3>questioned and denied and the septum won't anoint her. She

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 3>needs a yes man in public, and it should be Damon,

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 3>but that's just not who he is. I fear what

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Damon will do to Missaria and the.

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Small folk post the Last Supper for the Gold.

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 3>Do you know Reniera does kind of have that big

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 3>conversation about how she feels like the gods are conspiring

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 3>against her. Do you think that is hints of Targarian

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.360
<v Speaker 3>madness or do you think she is sensing a truth

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:57.359
<v Speaker 3>about what is to come?

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean she's been fed this prophet which has

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>some kind of basis in magical fact, that a Tarierian

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:09.320
<v Speaker 1>must be on the throne to defeat the White Walkers. However,

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 1>she thinks that's her, and so there is kind of

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the first misstep when dealing with this kind of mystical thinking.

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's a very natural kind of thought

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>process to wonder, if you've been told this, why everything

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.319
<v Speaker 1>is so difficult? And yes, I do agree. I think

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>she's going to come. I think she's going to take

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 1>a part of Damon's advice, which is, what did you

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 1>think it was going to be easy? Just because like

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:44.439
<v Speaker 1>it's prophecy that this is going to happen, and she's

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>going to combine that with this kind of prophetic ideology

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 1>that she has, and I think she's going to come

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 1>to a place where she just decides, I've maybe been

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:58.439
<v Speaker 1>a little too merciful, a little too soft, a little

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 1>too sensitive to the opinion on the streets, and I

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 1>need to just like fucking crack down. Why do I

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 1>care that the septin won't annoy me. Let's find a

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 1>guy who will exactly.

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean the fact she hasn't done that already in

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, let's say, from what we know about how

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 3>Game of Thrones and Westeros was run later on, like

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 3>it is kind of crazy that she does not just

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of take that charge.

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:27.320
<v Speaker 2>We've seen many other people do it. I think we

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 2>will see her approach things that way.

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm very interested to see how she can keep the

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 3>reins on Damon after this. I think that is going

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:41.080
<v Speaker 3>to be a big issue. I'm also going to bring

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 3>up to me the elephant in the room, Ari Masaria,

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 3>your most draftable player, Jason. She did she block the

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:54.279
<v Speaker 3>tunnel in Baylor's room that I think it was bricked up?

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:57.359
<v Speaker 3>Do you think that was done after the men went

0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:57.759
<v Speaker 3>in to.

0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Kill Jaris, Yeah, the kilken innocence, it was probably done

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:05.279
<v Speaker 1>after that. That said, that's amazing there, and it just

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 1>might be the case that they got lost too.

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 3>Though if she did, she should have already had that

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:12.000
<v Speaker 3>ship laid out, had a seventh go down and checked

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 3>that it was open, because that's giving entombed in a

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 3>fucking wine cella, Like, that's a ship, bro, And I

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 3>don't want.

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Helena to go out that way.

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, I will say a failing of Targerian kings and

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:31.759
<v Speaker 1>rulers writ large since Megor has been a failure to

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 1>map the tunnels in the ring. Huh, Like everybody knows

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:40.319
<v Speaker 1>they're there, but nobody knows where they go. No, it's

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of like hit or miss, like if you understand

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:45.839
<v Speaker 1>like where to get into them. Tyrian famously was able

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:47.799
<v Speaker 1>to use them to pop out and kill his dad

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:53.240
<v Speaker 1>on the shitter and and then escape the the castle.

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 2>And as girlfriend too. Who nobody.

0:45:56.840 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're just like completely misunderstood. And it seems like

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:04.279
<v Speaker 1>from administration to administration, if there is any kind of

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 1>mapping or understanding of the geography of them, it is

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:13.800
<v Speaker 1>not passed on to the next group. So I'm not

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 1>surprised that to find a dead end in there because

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:21.360
<v Speaker 1>people just don't. It's not they're not explored enough. And

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>this is something that Turgerian's failed to do again and

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 1>again and again, is really really explore those ons.

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm actually kind of surprised Otto didn't have a

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 3>little blueprint map going you know that Allison could have

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:34.359
<v Speaker 3>or a little high tower blade.

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:37.320
<v Speaker 2>With some little you know, tunnel maps on it. Jason.

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Another thing I want to ask you then in that

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 2>case is.

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Where are we going? And this is not a question

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:48.480
<v Speaker 3>because I don't, like I'm not following the series. I

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:51.320
<v Speaker 3>just think we are in a situation now where we

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:53.760
<v Speaker 3>know where Allison and Helena a trapped in a fucking

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 3>like count of Montalado quinde of a situation like we

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.759
<v Speaker 3>love that cask of whatever it's called, Like we know

0:46:59.920 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 3>that Ranera as fuck, she's blind to everything, Damon's mad.

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:08.840
<v Speaker 2>We have the fucking like Ormond is fucking ready, like

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:13.440
<v Speaker 2>he seems very prepared. But then we also have this entirely.

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Kind of separate issue with how Ranera is gonna respond

0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:19.920
<v Speaker 3>to all of this? Will she danny out? Will she

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 3>go crazy? What do you think we're gonna see? And

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 3>how far into that are we gonna get as we

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:26.360
<v Speaker 3>head in because it seems like.

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 2>A lot to deal with in a few episodes.

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I think I think we're the ultimate reveal has got

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>to be what ormonds ski carp sleeve is. He's gotta

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:43.920
<v Speaker 1>have something. It seems like he's in too vulnerable a position.

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 1>The Darren King play is so audacious. How can he

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:56.440
<v Speaker 1>be confident that he can be successful with this because

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:58.839
<v Speaker 1>clearly he is not a stupid man. So I think

0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 1>that's where we are heading, is okay, some sort of

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:05.400
<v Speaker 1>reveal of his plans. And I'm excited me too, because that's.

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Not books, So that's very exciting to me.

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 3>Another big thing we get here, Jason, that I wanted

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 3>to talk about because this is huge book stuff, but

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:16.359
<v Speaker 3>we've mentioned very vague. The aim and Alice stuff here

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 3>is so fun. You see her kind of playing into

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:21.560
<v Speaker 3>those mother issues that he has. But there is also

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:25.399
<v Speaker 3>this flirtation between them. The men who come to raid

0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 3>Haron Hall when Aimon finally seems to recover, are you know, brigands.

0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Their sexual assaults. They want to rape Alice.

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Aimen does not let that happen, and there is this

0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:39.399
<v Speaker 3>very cathartic and brutal scene, but it's also very clear

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:42.440
<v Speaker 3>that this is now a toxic projection that Aimon has

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 3>put onto Alice, a person who is essentially imprisoning him.

0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 3>Could you talk a little bit about how much more

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 3>of that you think we're going to see and when

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:52.319
<v Speaker 3>we expect to see Amon kind of emerge from Haron Hall,

0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:53.720
<v Speaker 3>if that would even be this season.

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I think he will emerge. He I think he will

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:00.759
<v Speaker 1>emerge this season. You know, this is one of the

0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:05.480
<v Speaker 1>most mysterious plot points right books. I think that we

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 1>will get We don't know what Alice's whole deal is,

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:12.279
<v Speaker 1>where does she come from, who is she? How old

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 1>is she is? That, how she looks. Is she a

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 1>shape shipter, is she some sort of Children of the

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Forest type, a magic dabbler, or like we we just

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know. And I think there will be some sort

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 1>of reveal about what her the nature of her as

0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:38.719
<v Speaker 1>a character, and what her intentions are, because clearly there

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 1>they are centered around hairn Hall and and owning it somehow.

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:47.440
<v Speaker 1>She even says like, how dare you like attack me

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:51.479
<v Speaker 1>in the shadow of my own house? So she wants

0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:56.239
<v Speaker 1>hair and Hall? But why and we've gotta I think

0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:58.359
<v Speaker 1>we will figure that part of it out.

0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a moment in a note here, but I

0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:02.000
<v Speaker 2>thought it was a really fun one.

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 3>This kind of is a we get a big connection

0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:09.920
<v Speaker 3>here thanks to Alan and Vania's conversation to the original

0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 3>Game of Thrones season, especially characters we love like Aria

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:15.399
<v Speaker 3>and the kind of settings of kings Landing. We see

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:18.320
<v Speaker 3>the cats, the ratcatcher cats running around the keep for

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:21.600
<v Speaker 3>the first time here redland the Landing. Could you talk

0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 3>a little bit about the cats and the role they playing?

0:50:23.600 --> 0:50:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Kind of what that mean?

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:27.080
<v Speaker 1>The cats? They fired it, They fired all the rat catchers.

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:32.640
<v Speaker 1>This is the cheapest, most efficient solution to the problem,

0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:34.959
<v Speaker 1>is like get the cats. And you know, I hadn't

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:37.400
<v Speaker 1>thought about it until now, but I think you're exactly

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 1>right that these are the the cats that arises must

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 1>be descendants of these original rights original cat army. Yes, well,

0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:50.279
<v Speaker 1>we're going to continue to talk about House of the

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Dragon in this wonderful season. On the next episode of Exprivision, we're.

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<v Speaker 4>Diving into an Odyssey round Table and then x N

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<v Speaker 4>ninety seven episode two oh six Danger this.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode, thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 3>Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.

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