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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lully. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and Matt. We're gonna play a little.

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Speaker 2: Game today, playing the game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't even tell you what we're going thought

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Speaker 1: of this as I was sitting down waiting for the

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Speaker 1: show to start.

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Speaker 2: Here. Shoots and ladders.

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Speaker 1: No, uh, We're gonna do a little, a little exercise here.

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Speaker 1: You play the GM.

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Speaker 2: I'm the GM, You're the GM. I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: Bring it on and then we'll talk this through and

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Speaker 1: see what we want to do here. But how are

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Speaker 1: we how are we allocating our resources this off season?

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Speaker 1: First of all, you have to figure out what areas

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Speaker 1: you want to upgrade. Yeah, yeah, So then you figure

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Speaker 1: out have to figure out the best way to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I I've been giving this a lot of thought,

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Speaker 2: and I don't have a great plan yet. But let's

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Speaker 2: talk it through.

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Speaker 1: This is what the Steelers are doing right now. That

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Speaker 1: is what teams across the lead.

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Speaker 2: You're doing. Is why the world's so quiet right now

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Speaker 2: as they're all kind of locked down trying to build

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Speaker 2: a plan. You know.

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Speaker 1: So let's start with what we know. We know that

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Speaker 1: this Ears draft is deep in offensive.

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Speaker 2: Lineman yes, tackles, and we like some centers too. We

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Speaker 2: know it's deep in cornerbacks, agreed, Yes, we know there

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Speaker 2: are a good group of wide receivers. Yes, all positions

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Speaker 2: the stealer should have interested.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's an okay group of quarterbacks. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 1: people talk about the top and the top, but we're

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Speaker 1: not in the top.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not talking about I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Guys that we can acquire, and so that's just okay.

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Speaker 2: It's okay. Yeah, linebackers okay, Okay, Safety is okay. D

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Speaker 2: lineman not great, not great at all. Yeah, edge I

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Speaker 2: don't think is an issue. Tight end and running back

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Speaker 1: So that's that's kind of our plan going into this.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm looking here at the safety free agent group. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's very good.

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Speaker 2: It's very good. Yes. I also, well, what was your

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Speaker 2: pride to that too? So what do you think of

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Speaker 2: the free agent slash available quarterbacks?

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Speaker 1: I think it's okay, I think it's it's not what

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Speaker 1: it's been in recent years.

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Speaker 2: Right, how about centers and tackles.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to shop in that market necessarily, but.

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Speaker 2: Tackle I don't center.

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Speaker 1: got cut today, but the rams, so there's another one

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Speaker 1: that another name added to it. So you're looking at

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Speaker 1: guys like.

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Speaker 2: Cushion Bary will probably make the most. Connor Williams probably

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Speaker 1: I mean, Connor Williams is there, but he's coming off

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Speaker 2: He's never really fit in at center or guard. You're

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Speaker 1: Center, Andre James. Aaron Brewer might be a little undersized

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Speaker 1: This group is probably deeper than the draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can come up with the puzzle

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Speaker 2: Is there's about four names on there that i'd be

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Speaker 2: I definitely think swimming in the safety free agent market

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Speaker 1: Get a little younger, yeah, better there, I'm okay with, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the first thing that's going to come up

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Speaker 1: Right, that's not going to cut it. That's not going

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Speaker 2: And we could even do this without talking quarterbacks its

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Speaker 1: Let's say we have twenty five million to spend.

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Speaker 3: like I'm looking here at the list, there are one, two, three, four, five, six, six,

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Speaker 1: Well, we need to see what's like, we need to

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Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph. I think you make him an offer. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you have that talk now.

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Speaker 1: If somebody gives you an offer better than what we're offering, great,

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Speaker 1: I think my fallback option might be Jimmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 1: Those I'd be okay if if this fails, that fails.

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Speaker 2: So we don't have to narrow it down and say

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Speaker 2: you have to sign this player or this safety. Let's

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Speaker 2: say one of those four agrees to a deal early

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Speaker 2: in free agency with the Steelers. Yeah, and that's not

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Speaker 1: Can find how he can start seeing Kenny starts to

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Speaker 1: see you. We're gonna start Kenny in the season.

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Speaker 2: You at least have that.

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Speaker 1: And let's let's say it's gonna cost you five million

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Speaker 1: in cap space. Okay, that seems about the way you

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Speaker 1: can structure the deal.

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Speaker 2: Trubisky was more than that, Uh, not the first not

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Speaker 1: Because yeah, some of that was signing bonus. And you

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Speaker 1: can you can, you know, make it a two or

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Speaker 1: three year deal.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how much cap space eats up.

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Speaker 1: Because we get twenty five to spend, that's a round number. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna need just in the grand scheme of things,

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Speaker 1: we're probably gonna need six in cap space to sign

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Speaker 2: But I would be in the Cushioned at Barry sweepstakes

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Speaker 2: other ones, Barton and Frasier are great too. But I

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Speaker 1: Well, they have somebody right now who can fill the spot.

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Speaker 2: That's why I've included Connor Williams and looks the thing too,

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking here on spot rack the calculated market

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Speaker 2: I bet Cushion Berry's ten, give or take. I mean Brewer, James,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna be five or six. I think they're better

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Speaker 2: Cushion Berry is definitely my favorite because I know that's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but there might be some other teams there they're

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Speaker 1: And what's my what is my what if I spend

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Speaker 2: That's right, right, right? And you'd like to bring back

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Speaker 2: These things cost money. Yeah, I mean, I do think

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Speaker 2: keep Watt. I'd like to keep Golden, you know, Watts, Yeah, Golden,

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Speaker 1: I mean, either them or somebody like them.

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Speaker 1: So I think you budget, you budget three million each

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Speaker 2: So we probably have how much do we really have

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Speaker 2: to spend outside the organization? Twelve to fifteen something like that,

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Speaker 1: So if we go get a big target at center.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't let that eats it all up right right now?

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Speaker 1: That doesn't say, that doesn't give us anything for linebacker, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I know, I mean that leaves you pretty thin.

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Speaker 2: So I think that we really only have five draft

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Speaker 1: I think the more sensible approach to it, then is

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Speaker 2: I think you have to sign at least one defensive back. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's no that you can't live with what you have.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're you're starting slot is gone, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Neil and KZ will be back, right,

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Speaker 2: and that's the other you may I need two safeties

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Speaker 2: to do it. But where are you spending your money

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Speaker 2: I'd love to use like a fourth thrownd pick on

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it depends on you know, do you

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Speaker 2: Think Rose in the mix. Yeah, I would mix him

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Speaker 1: You know, every I don't have the more. I don't

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Speaker 1: play regardless of down in distance because they've had to

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Speaker 2: Yeah they have. However, I mean, true, Mike Hilton, slot

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Speaker 2: I know he's a crazy person, but like, who's the

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Speaker 2: something John he does. I mean, he plays safety and

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Speaker 2: slot for you. It doesn't kill two birds, but I

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Speaker 2: might want a big slots for a five eight guy.

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Speaker 1: It makes it look you know, when you're in the huddle,

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Speaker 2: Not sure what he's doing right right, right right?

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Speaker 1: Or maybe it's making Fitzpatrick in the slot and yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, you know, just.

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Speaker 1: To kill those two birds.

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Speaker 2: You know, I wouldn't break my heart at all. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you two defensive backs, one of them's slot safety, one

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Speaker 2: of them Jeremy Chin or somebody like that, or you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm dancing around it because I don't have a set

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Speaker 2: plan right now. I've been thinking about it's for three months,

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Speaker 2: to be honest with you know.

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Speaker 1: Part of the reason why I wanted to do this

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Speaker 1: little exercise is that again, this is what's happening around

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you and you're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna get it. You're gonna coming out of the combine

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Speaker 1: next week. You're gonna have a better idea of what's

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Speaker 2: Sure, sure, And they're doing that now too. I mean,

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Speaker 2: have you know, they may have the Cushion Berry conversation

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Speaker 2: we just had. I think we can get Lloyd Kushenberry

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Speaker 2: for three years, third two million, make it an eight

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Speaker 2: million dollar cap hit this year. Give them a nice chunk.

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Speaker 2: But for other teams are having the exact same conversation.

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Speaker 2: You know, and do you have an in with that

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Speaker 2: I mean you can put in early offers or if

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Speaker 2: gonna go get a tackle or an extra defensive back

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Speaker 2: because now it's center time in the draft, or you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's but again, you you have a you do. It's

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Speaker 1: Are you desperate? Desperate's a big word.

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Speaker 2: Desperate's a big word, and I would say defensive back

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Speaker 2: is the place you're desperate. Yeah, in February, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think you have to sign a defensive back and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the only reason I did you on

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Speaker 1: He got hurt. The reason why he was out there

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Speaker 1: like that that that I know there. They're still young

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Speaker 1: enough that it's you know, I'm not I'm not interested

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Speaker 1: in signing Patrick Queen.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: But if I can get one of these guys.

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Speaker 2: One of those, I'm probably out of the linebacker market,

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Speaker 2: certainly in Day one or two of the draft too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's enough that I can get by.

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Speaker 1: I'll let somebody like, I'm looking here at the market

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Speaker 1: value on Willy Gay.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's spend some money on one of those dudes.

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Speaker 1: It's seven million dollars.

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Speaker 2: I bet trackles cheaper. I bet who are some of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it just depends on what way you

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Speaker 2: I'm looking like four million.

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Speaker 2: Are I think like Tranquil's being that neighbor.

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Speaker 1: They don't have them list they have them. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: just got to look at linebacker.

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Speaker 2: I know that the Squats track's goofy with how they

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Speaker 1: And I'll get a bunch of outside guys here as well.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not signing Frankie Lou that's not.

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Speaker 2: That's not going to be ten or twelve or something

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Speaker 1: Yeah, someone like that. You know, I can do you.

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Speaker 2: Think fourish for that, I can go up rotational linebacker.

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Speaker 1: I could go up to six on that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, if it's a dude, I mean, if it's yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, like dude better than Alexander and more valuable

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's somebody again, that's why to me, I

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Speaker 1: He makes he's not gonna he's not going to break

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Speaker 1: part of a rotation, as part of a rotation. Well,

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Speaker 1: I've got two of the guys in my rotation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be a third. It probably place ideally sixty

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Speaker 1: And I got to cover my butt a little bit

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Speaker 2: wait till camp and see what bodies are out there. Well,

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Speaker 1: You know, Am I interested in a reclamation project like

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Speaker 2: dudes that have never really fit in. I'd be interested

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Speaker 2: in those guys if two or three weeks of free

439
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Speaker 2: agency goes by and they're sitting around and want to

440
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Speaker 2: sign a one year deal for two million or something

441
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Speaker 2: like that, and then maybe I'll figure out how to

442
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Speaker 2: use them. Maybe I won't and might catch lightning in

443
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Speaker 2: the bottle. But they're the cherry on top, right, Like,

444
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Speaker 2: I can't be like, I'm counting on him to be

445
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Speaker 2: in the serious rotation more than fifty percent of the snaps. Guy.

446
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Speaker 2: Maybe we can change the scenery does something good for him.

447
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Speaker 1: But and ideally, what I need at that position is

448
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Speaker 1: a coverage guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got the thumpers. I don't need

450
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Speaker 2: a thumper. Yeah, I don't need a thumper. I mean

451
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Speaker 2: that's why I mentioned Chin is the same breath as Simmons.

452
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Speaker 2: I mean, like a big, strong safety, slash lineback, middle

453
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Speaker 2: of the field, run and hit guy is of interest

454
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Speaker 2: for sure, but they would be the cherry on top.

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Speaker 1: Right right, I'm gonna get to a breakout. We keep

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Speaker 1: discussing this as we continue here. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive here on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt we're talking here about free agency in

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Speaker 1: the draft.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, off season game plan basically, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: How we would attack this here and I'm just looking

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Speaker 1: here at this whole free agency rankings here. Why does

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Speaker 1: some places make their stuff so hard to do it?

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Speaker 1: I just don't get it. Show ease of use should be.

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Speaker 2: The way to looks like you're on Pro football folkus.

468
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Speaker 2: I am. They have some good contract stuff on there,

469
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Speaker 2: but it's hard to get to.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to get to. I'm trying to pull up

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Speaker 1: their interior defenders on here because I had some other

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Speaker 1: lists that have interior defenders on them and couldn't find

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Speaker 1: some guys on there, and it makes it it's difficult.

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Speaker 2: It is difficulty. I think we've referenced Mike Clay's, you

475
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Speaker 2: know lists that he put out, which I always just

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Speaker 2: keep it on my phone because it's real easy just

477
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Speaker 2: to you know, find names on there. But then you're

478
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Speaker 2: guessing a little bit more on contracts than you'd like,

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Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, I love that part, all right. I

480
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Speaker 2: got some linebackers here, okay, linebacker list.

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Speaker 1: They got some projected contracts here as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Terrell Dodson at three point two five million for one year.

484
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Speaker 2: I don't know enough about him. I mean, like, I

485
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Speaker 2: know that he's a quality player, he's the age you're

486
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Speaker 2: looking for. Removes. Well, I don't remember him coming out

487
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Speaker 2: of school as well as some of these other dudes.

488
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Speaker 2: But that that's the that's the album shopping in you

489
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Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, I think that's a good

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Speaker 2: neighborhood to bed.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty five, he can run. He played a bunch

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Speaker 1: of snaps last year for the for the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Living Nickel right right right, and he was an

494
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Speaker 2: important player for him. Yeah. Yeah, No, he's a name

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Speaker 2: I'd be fine with.

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Speaker 1: Blake Cashman. Two years, four point five million.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep, Yeah, that's absolutely him. Trankle to me are

498
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Speaker 2: similar in terms of give me, give me a of

499
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Speaker 2: those guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now he he It was a complete failure really

501
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Speaker 1: with the Jets. Yes, but last year with he was

502
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Speaker 1: good Houston, he was good.

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Speaker 2: He was good. Yeah. I liked him coming out of school.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Just looking here at some of these other guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm not interested in that. Uh no, nope, nope.

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Speaker 2: They share on there. Not seeing him here yet?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, Tranquil, they're saying two years three point three

508
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Speaker 1: eight average.

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Speaker 2: I mean I could shop in that aye. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: if it goes up to four, I can live with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not a Josie Jewel guy.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, it's just I'm looking for more of an athlete.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, share they're saying six point seven five per year.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I get it. I mean that's the Willy Gay neighborhood. Yeah,

515
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Speaker 2: probably wouldn't. Maybe if they're still out there in two

516
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Speaker 2: weeks and you haven't signed one, you know.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're saying Willie Gay is three point seven five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when you're sorry, I'm in on.

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Speaker 1: In on that. We've seen three point seven five, we've

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Speaker 1: seen seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The truth is probably somewhere in between.

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Speaker 2: So let's say we spend four on a linebacker, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in that neighborhood. Maybe it's three point three million cap

525
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Speaker 2: hit this year, but you know, something like that. I

526
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Speaker 2: think there's enough names there that would be happy with

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Speaker 2: one of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's there's some you know, there's some

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Speaker 1: guys there that I can I could certainly live with

530
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Speaker 1: and live with and are fine. There'll be upgrades over

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Speaker 1: what I was running out there, certainly at the end

532
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Speaker 1: of the year last year, without doubt, and they don't

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Speaker 1: have the you know, the problem that you have, and

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Speaker 1: you know, Mike Tomlin was asked that his seasoning ending

535
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Speaker 1: press conference about the injuries that hit certain positions. He said,

536
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Speaker 1: you know, it was troublesome, and yes, it is a factor,

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Speaker 1: like they have to look at that.

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Speaker 2: Like no, no, you know, and it's bad luck. But

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Speaker 2: also if you're going to spend on older dudes that

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Speaker 2: have injury history, chances of your luck being bad or better? Yeah, right, right, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: And I would say these guys Alexander was a fine

542
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Speaker 2: addition here. I'm not picking with him, but these guys

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Speaker 2: we just brought up in the segment have fewer wards,

544
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Speaker 2: fewer concerns. Yeah, I guess is the better way of

545
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Speaker 2: putting it, you know, less downside at.

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Speaker 1: The safety position. Well, Antoine Winfield six point two six

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Speaker 1: million per year, Xavier McKinney's thirteen to five. We're not

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Speaker 1: shopping in the soule Alloy Gilman.

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Speaker 2: He's a better player than people think.

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Speaker 1: Two point six to seven million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great name. That's a great name. I mean,

552
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Speaker 2: he's made no money in his life. He kind of

553
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Speaker 2: came out of nowhere. People don't know much about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a high pedigree guy, wasn't on a good defense.

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Speaker 2: He's a charger, by the way. I think that's a

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Speaker 2: great addition. I mean, you get him and somebody else,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, that's the kind of guy that you're looking

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Speaker 1: to get. Darnell Savage is going to be two years,

560
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Speaker 1: five million per year.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if his play style fits here. He's

562
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Speaker 2: been kind of criticized for not being the most aggressive

563
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Speaker 2: tackler and those type of things. But the ability's there,

564
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Speaker 2: the versatility is there. It was just a bad fit

565
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Speaker 2: with the Packers. That's a hard thing to comment on.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, he wouldn't break my heart.

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Speaker 1: Julian Blackman's a guy that's like five point seven five

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Speaker 1: million average.

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Speaker 2: I'd consider it that number. Yeah, I mean he's I

570
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Speaker 2: think he's worth that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think you're again a twenty five

572
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Speaker 1: year old as sending.

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Speaker 2: Player two three year deals something like that.

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Speaker 1: Jordan white Head a six million. I'm not interested in

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Speaker 1: Jordan white Head at six million.

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Speaker 2: I thought he'd be cheaper than that. I would say

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Speaker 2: Jordan white Heads a name, and then you said six million,

578
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Speaker 2: and I shut up immediately. It was like, I thought

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Speaker 2: it'd be three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he'd be er than that, and maybe

581
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Speaker 1: he will be.

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Speaker 2: Maybe will be, I mean, especially after four safety needy

583
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Speaker 2: teams grab the cream of the crop, and then you're

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Speaker 2: sitting out there for a bit, you know. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Fuller from the from the Rams four point six

586
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Speaker 1: three million.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, It's not my favorite one yet, but it's okay.

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Elliott, uh four million a year.

589
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Speaker 2: Seems a little pricey for him, but he's quality starter. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Camera and Curl twelve point five million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: See, these are these are like the big ticket items

593
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Speaker 1: are gonna are the ones that sign early, and then

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Speaker 1: the other guys who are thinking they were gonna get

595
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Speaker 1: that kind of money then end up not getting it. CJ.

596
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Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson five point three million.

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Speaker 2: I'd be very interested in that. I mean, if if

598
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Speaker 2: you can have I mean, if you are comfortable with

599
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Speaker 2: the human being and he's not the only one on

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Speaker 2: this list, that might be a right you know, a

601
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Speaker 2: handful to be around or whatever, you know. I mean,

602
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Speaker 2: all these you would think you're pro and scouts and

603
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 2: knowledge of the league and people know what they're all about.

604
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Speaker 2: But him is a player at that number. That might

605
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Speaker 2: be my favorite one yet.

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Chin at three million.

607
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Speaker 2: I thought he'd even be cheaper because he kind of

608
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Speaker 2: got Benched, but he just didn't fit the defense. The

609
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Speaker 2: defense too, I mean, he's he can fly. It'd be

610
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Speaker 2: a nickel linebacker for you. Yeah. I'd be very interested

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Speaker 2: in maybe two of these names. Yeah, especially with slot

612
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Speaker 2: one of them better of slot capabilities.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got Mike Edwards and jay Ron Curser. There's

614
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Speaker 1: there's guys on there that, you know, two or three

615
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Speaker 1: million dollar players.

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Speaker 2: Then they wouldn't it would be priority guys. It would

617
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Speaker 2: be priority guy from now you say, yeah, but you

618
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Speaker 2: can get.

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Speaker 1: There's some names on that safety list that good names.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if you give me Gilman and who's

621
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Speaker 2: I thinking. I was gonna say Whitehead, but he's more

622
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Speaker 2: expensive than I thought. But I mean I might even

623
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Speaker 2: spend nine million total. Or you know, if I'm gonna

624
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Speaker 2: play three of them. If I want to play three

625
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Speaker 2: of them and one of them is a really good

626
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Speaker 2: slot player, yeah, you know, I think that's not crazy.

627
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that helps. I mean you've upgraded your defense.

628
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't need a slot corner in the draft,

629
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Speaker 2: but if you get a little Hilton type you still

630
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Speaker 2: could take him, especially if he has gunner capabilities. You'd

631
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Speaker 2: be done at safety. Yeah, you know, it also lessens

632
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Speaker 2: your need for linebacker a little bit, you know. I

633
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Speaker 2: mean you could play you know, a different personnel.

634
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Speaker 1: At least a different way to play. Looking at those

635
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Speaker 1: centers on here, they're saying Connor Williams is seven point

636
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: five million a year.

637
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: I would spend that. I mean again, team doctors have

638
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: to be involved, you gotta be yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

639
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Speaker 1: Andre James nine million dollars a year.

640
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: Wow.

641
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: Cushion Berry fourteen point two.

642
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: I thought he'd be like Tennis, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's

643
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: really ascending and he's what you're looking for. I know

644
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Speaker 2: he's not a household name, but don't know if I

645
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: can go there, if I can go there.

646
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Speaker 1: Aaron Brewer six point sixty seven million.

647
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: Okay, as long as one thing about Smith, going back

648
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: to Brewer is he has looked at very mobile centers.

649
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see centers getting out there, pulling,

650
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: doing things like that. And Brewer certainly fits that mole.

651
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: I mean, like they drafted the kid out of Stanford Dolman,

652
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: who's a real movement type guy. So that might be

653
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: something to consider. Although Cole moves pretty well, by the way, Yeah,

654
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not his problem.

655
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: He's also cheaper than Tyler Biadis, who's seven million a

656
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: year on here.

657
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: These these centers are a little price you than I expected,

658
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: but you kind of get what you pay for, though.

659
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: They would be an upgrade.

660
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Coleman Shelton with the Rams five point three million.

661
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: I wonder if Allan's in that neighborhood too. He probably

662
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: wasn't listed yet.

663
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Evan Brown from Seattle a good enough Yeah.

664
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: Right, if I'm gonna go get one, I'm gonna get

665
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: one that I can you know, see them all tight.

666
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: It's not as deep as No.

667
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: It might be better off drafting it.

668
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: It's cheaper just you know the tracks from the other spot. Yeah,

669
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: we've talked about this before, but I do like the

670
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: Westbrook a keynees. You know, I wouldn't mind grabbing one

671
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: of those receivers.

672
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, the wide receiver. Uh, let's take a lot.

673
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: There was three or four there that have some toughness.

674
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean we're not we're in Mike Evans, Michael Pittman.

675
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: No, I mean I would know.

676
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: Brown doesn't interest me.

677
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: T does interest me. He's a really good blocker.

678
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got that injury issues though, I mean he

679
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: kept getting hurt last year. He finally started to play last.

680
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: Year, and yeah, what are they projecting on him?

681
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: Two years? Three point five average?

682
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

683
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: Times a right, I mean like that's not terrible. I

684
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: mean if they did that, I'd be like, Okay, I

685
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: get it.

686
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean what I'm looking for there, and

687
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: I think we talked about this last week is someone

688
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: that's a three. But I probably draft past him to

689
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: be a three, you know what I mean.

690
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: No, Brown's also twenty eight Yeah yeah, Ridley no, No,

691
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds, No.

692
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. Reynolds will be awful, but there's better

693
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: names on it.

694
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: Just yeah, I just I'm looking for something with the

695
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel nine million.

696
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 2: With his history, that's rough. Yeah, he's a playmaker.

697
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: Though, Kendrick Warrene, you're looking at seven.

698
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: That's more than I thought. But I also not to

699
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: fight you, but I bet if the Steelers needed that,

700
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: they could get to more than twenty five million, you

701
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: know the available.

702
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, you're gonna have to to sign your

703
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: rookie class and you have to have enough leftover to

704
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: do anything in the off season as well as we

705
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: saw last year. Yeah, yeah, or in the regular season,

706
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: I should say Cedric Wilson two point five million.

707
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler Boyd.

708
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: People think that Tyler Boyd's coming here eight point seven

709
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: five million. That ain't happening.

710
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,239
Speaker 2: Happened, No, I mean, I don't think hes gonna help

711
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: you on special teams either.

712
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: The guy we talked about, Nick Westbrook kin a two

713
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: point seven five million.

714
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: I do that right now. Yeah, I'm giving you want

715
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: a two year five million dollar deal or two year

716
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: six million dollar deal.

717
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: And he's still he hasn't turned twenty seven yet. Okay,

718
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: that's the kind of guy that you want to do business.

719
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I can live with them as a three.

720
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: I'm thrilled with him as a four. Yeah. If I

721
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: run into a third round pick, that cosright pass him,

722
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: or Austin steps up or you.

723
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: Know, kJ Osborne, you're looking at five million year.

724
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: I was wondering as another name. I was thinking because

725
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: he had some toughness. Him and Brown and a Keyne

726
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: Westbrook a Keene have the toughness you'll look for, you know,

727
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: I mean they'll throw their bodies around. And that was

728
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: really Robinson's best attribute. No doubt, yeah, no doubt and

729
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: an underrated one.

730
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, beyond that, I don't know if

731
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: you're looking to do a lot in free agency.

732
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: I kick the tires on centers we can take.

733
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: I love the cornerback market, but that's not gonna Yeah.

734
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: I guess we should talk about that because it'd be

735
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: nice to have one of them under a contract.

736
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson nineteen, Him and Sneed are going to be

737
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: Kenda Fuller thirteen million.

738
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: I think he's the third best one.

739
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: Kenn Moore is going to get you a seven six

740
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: point seven to five, so.

741
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: He'd be great. But he's an old school slot. He's

742
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: also thirty and he's older and yeah, high character guy.

743
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: I mean I fit in well too. I think he

744
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: was coming off an injury as well.

745
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lugerius Sneads seventeen and a half, Stefan Gilmour's ten,

746
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: Ronald Darby two point five.

747
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he might be shot.

748
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 1: Miles Bryant that he was the slot last year in

749
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: New England looking at two years three point five a year.

750
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: Again. We brought him up last week and I didn't

751
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: do more homework on him, but he was intriguing and

752
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: that's not a bad spending use of your money.

753
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dane Jackson two years, four million average. That's basically

754
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: what you just paid e By Wallace.

755
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: Right right right, if it makes you better, but it

756
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: would hold the place down for a while.

757
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: A woozy ten and a half million.

758
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I mean he just.

759
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that you can shop in that.

760
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: I don't know you get your money out back out

761
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: yeah either.

762
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: Keishawn Nixon four point two five, Emmanuel Moseley one year,

763
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: four million, yeah, Murphy Bunning one year four million.

764
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: That's not too terrible. Yeah, yeah, I would consider that

765
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: he's done a lot of slot work too, but he's

766
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: not small.

767
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis two years average of three million per year.

768
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might grab one of those, like three or

769
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: four million dollar corners. Yeah, you know, just to go

770
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: into the draft with another dude. Christian Fulton three million.

771
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: That's not bad either, and he has some pedigree to him.

772
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: So if you're spending three on a receiver, four on

773
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: a three O, three on a corner, four on a safety,

774
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: six on a linebacker.

775
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: Probably six on a quarterback.

776
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's forgetting something pretty important, maybe more.

777
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: I mean, that's like you've filled a lot of holes.

778
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: You filled a lot of holes. You've used your money,

779
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: and I think it's it's you know when people talk

780
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: about these big ticket items. Yea, yeah, like that's all

781
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: you get.

782
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: That's all you get. Yeah, as opposed that.

783
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: And last year they showed us they were willing to

784
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: be active in free agency, but there weren't really any

785
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: big ticket items that they went out and signed.

786
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: No, see them all.

787
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: Who was the biggest one?

788
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he also is out there a little while. Yeah,

789
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: and I bet he was asking for twenty percent more

790
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: than what he got when it was all said and done, right,

791
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: And I'd still be interested in that.

792
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: You know, those are the kind of deals that you make.

793
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: Those are the kind of deals you make. You know,

794
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: like if we just laid out and you got those

795
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: five players, I wouldn't say all of them make you

796
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: dramatically better than what you started last season with. You know,

797
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: maybe what you finished, what the drafts for.

798
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where you're going to get markedly better. And

799
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: you and you last year's draft, which was a good one,

800
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: We went over that on Monday. Those guys are all

801
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: going in the year too. The expectation is they take

802
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: a big step forward.

803
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But if you grab those guys, the

804
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 2: boat wouldn't be leaking, you know, in the draft, and

805
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: if there was a cumal who out there at almost

806
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: any position, you could restructure a couple of dudes and

807
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, well I'll throw some chips in the

808
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: middle for that guy. And then the end of the

809
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: draft saying I'd love to get a center and keep

810
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: an eye on quarterbacks. Going to keep an eye on receivers.

811
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: Might have to take a corner pretty high. That might

812
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: be about it. Yeah, you know what I mean. And

813
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: a tackle if if there's a tackle sitting there in

814
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: the first round, you know, leath them sitting there, you

815
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: have to consider that.

816
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: Too, right right, Yeah, yeah, I mean you just then

817
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,959
Speaker 1: the value overtakes the need.

818
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do we have time to look at tackles? I

819
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: don't think I want any. But it's going to be

820
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: kind of the beauty of Dan Moore is Yeah, you

821
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: can live with him. Andy's cheat again, He's he's kind

822
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 2: of that Kenny Pickett. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Situation here where

823
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: you've played all these young guys on offense. You know

824
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: a lot about him in there.

825
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: Cheap you know, I mean Tyron Smith one year, ten

826
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: million dollars.

827
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: I think he'd be even more.

828
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: But okay, yeah, but he's Yeah, Trent Brown is seven

829
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: point five million a year.

830
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: That's not the craziest thing I ever heard.

831
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna be thirty one right now.

832
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: I know he's old. Uh on a when that's the name,

833
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 2: I'd like that.

834
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: Fourteen and a half million dollars that makes sense, which

835
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: is yeah, I just can't shop in that, you know,

836
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: buying tackles. Germaine illuminaer is seven and a half. There's

837
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. He's what was he twenty six,

838
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 1: twenty nine? Well, was he really came my school world?

839
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: Later?

840
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: George Fant is gonna cost you five million dollars. He's

841
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: like if six guys if Dan Moore were on the

842
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: free agent market, right, they'd.

843
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: Made more of than Fan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he's

844
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's experienced and yeah, yeah, I hate

845
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: chopping the tackle Mark Chooks a Corps four where they

846
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: put him at.

847
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: Five point two five million.

848
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: I get it.

849
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: He just got he just got benched here and cut.

850
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. What's funny is if I knew nothing about him

851
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: in that same situation, happened with the Rams or Bears.

852
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: I'd be like, maybe they should call it chokes score for.

853
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna get Somebody will sign him to

854
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: a decent contract.

855
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: And have him and the haven More battle it out

856
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: at right tackle or whatever. Draft the guy in the

857
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: fourth round if you want or not. You know, again,

858
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: a lot of the this is a much bigger conversation.

859
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: Showing Williams fifteen million dollars a year. Are you out

860
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: of your cotton picking mind?

861
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's unbelievable. Yeah, and he might get it. Oh,

862
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: have tons of cap space, same, he might get it.

863
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 2: He's a former first round pick from Bama and people

864
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: think he's good.

865
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Donovan Smith has two point five million a

866
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: year for Donovan Smith. He stinks.

867
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's flat out bad and he'll be in

868
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: the league for six more years.

869
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Makai Beckton five million dollars consider it? I wouldn't.

870
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd have to know more about his injury

871
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 2: history and all that, but he has not been good.

872
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: For not touch him with his injury history and is

873
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: just no.

874
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 2: I just love reclamation first round pick type projects. Yeah,

875
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: you don't want to shop in this market, which because.

876
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: You're getting you're getting below average players for more money

877
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: than you want to spend for a below average player.

878
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: See now, this is the conversation when you talk about

879
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: you shouldn't take a running back the first round, it

880
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: shouln't make a center in the first round. This is

881
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: the reason, you know, I mean like, it's much more

882
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 2: economically sound to draft Latham than it is Powers Johnson,

883
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 2: because if you need another one, you can't go get one,

884
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: you know, without making a bad deal. Back it. I

885
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: do think that they're more Roger Jones the first round. Last,

886
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: they're more centers a weird one.

887
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: Though the center is weird, right, Not everybody can play

888
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: it can play it. You could look at a guy

889
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: we saw this with Kendrick Green. Oh, his skill set

890
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: should translate the center, and he's done a little bit

891
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: of it in college and okay, and he gets to

892
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: the NFL and he can't.

893
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: Do it, no, no doubt. No, I don't think center

894
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: is just like a throwaway position.

895
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: Guard guard, Okay, you can find I don't want to

896
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: draft guards in the first round, right right, because I

897
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: can find those guys and I can take a tackle

898
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: and make them a guard. I can do all kinds

899
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: of things at guard. Yes, but I can't do that

900
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: at center.

901
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: Right, And there's always exceptions. This guy is a fan

902
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take him, you know.

903
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: Well, of course he's better be a future Hall of

904
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 1: Famer at least, or at least a Pro Bowl regular

905
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl guy on it.

906
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: You know, that's why Fanica was on top five pick though, right,

907
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: I mean, like taking Quentin Nelson in the top five

908
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: or whatever I guess has been a good pick. You

909
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: better be John Hand, you better be great. You know,

910
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: you better be great. Yeah, I mean you're already making

911
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: them like one of the highest paid guards in the league. Yeah,

912
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 2: you know that's you know, they're making more than the

913
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: franchise tag on some of these dudes. You know, if

914
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: you're picked super high, I don't want to. I don't

915
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: think they have to shop. In the tackle market, drafting

916
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 2: tackles to me is smart.

917
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

918
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And especially in a great tackle draft, you get

919
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: a couple.

920
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: Of young ones on the roster that you kept on

921
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: your roster all last year that could surprise, that could

922
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: surprise you know, so that that's how you deal with that.

923
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: And again, I think what we touched on in terms

924
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: of free agency, I think that will be the plan.

925
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: O line. Note, any chance you draft Latham or Mims

926
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 2: or someone like that at twenty? Hey, Dan Moore, why

927
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: don't you start playing guard? Hey James Daniels, what do

928
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 2: you think about playing center?

929
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: Here's the thing with Mims that people don't talk about.

930
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: I don't even care if it's Mims or guiding or started.

931
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: Mims played less in college. The Roderick Jones.

932
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 2: Oh, he's like Tree Lance. He played eight games. Yeah.

933
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: Like, if I draft Mems in the first round, I

934
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: do that with the plan. He ain't seeing the field

935
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: in year one.

936
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't move more to guard if it's Tomes.

937
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: I mean if it's Latham, it's different.

938
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: Man.

939
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: Latham's playing hasn't played a time. Yeah, I mean those

940
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: guys are multiple clay.

941
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: That's why I have Latham so much, so much higher

942
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: than those guys, because I can plug. I can plug

943
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 1: him and play him. Now, those other guys, I don't

944
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: know what they you know, they upside is better, but

945
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: maybe maybe they fail.

946
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 2: I'm just curious if our tune will change two weeks

947
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: from now on. Mims and Geiton, like we walk past

948
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: them in Indy. I mean they're crazy looking.

949
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: I get it.

950
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm knocking on Latham.

951
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: Who but I wasn't a big Lands guy because he

952
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: hadn't played Yeah, like I you know, I'll you know,

953
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: you look at the tape and say, okay, it's it's

954
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: it's good.

955
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what are you doing, especially that position.

956
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: You're not going to play a lot your rookie year.

957
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: He's just not.

958
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: I mean, of course Mims would have played a lot

959
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: more if he went to Pitt, you know. But but

960
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: he is ahead of you, Roder Jones ahead of him

961
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: in an NFL.

962
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: Do started eight games in college.

963
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: Eight Yeah, I think he's played like less than six

964
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: hundred snaps. Ye, like, well under six hundreds.

965
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: Again, I get it with him, but he's a Georgia.

966
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: He's an athlete.

967
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: Oh he's an athlete. Yeah, he's a crazy athlete. But again,

968
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: you know my whole Daniels the center more to guard conversation.

969
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: The beauty of more is you can draft that guy.

970
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: You can draft mems are guiding, and you can take

971
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: as long as you want. You can take longer than

972
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 2: Rodger Jones. Hill saw the field because I can live

973
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 2: with Dan Moore.

974
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: You know the problem becomes if you have an injury and.

975
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: Now you're thrown in the mix. Now you throw them

976
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: in the mix, right question.

977
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: Anyways, let's get to a break a little overdue for that.

978
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 2: Uh.

979
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: That is our free agency slash draft attack plan.

980
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we sort of came up with one, and it

981
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: kind of you know, you gotta be fluid on this stuff.

982
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, things will change. Yeah, there'll be guys who get

983
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: cut over the next three weeks here that will join

984
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: this list.

985
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: We go, oh yeah, right, Oh I'm interested in that.

986
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean center got cut today. Yeah.

987
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: So, uh but anyway, we're gonna get tough a break.

988
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,360
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989
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,799
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990
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997
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: looking here at a piece on ESPN was done by

998
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: Courtney Cronnin and Field Yates, and they have a potential

999
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: package of what the Steelers would have to give up

1000
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: to get Justin Fields. And I'm sorry, I've heard so interesting.

1001
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: Okay, let's unravel this for the end of the short

1002
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: end of the hour.

1003
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: Here twenty twenty four second round pick, which is fifty one.

1004
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: Overall, I assume that would be part of it.

1005
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: And at twenty twenty four fourth round pick, I'm not

1006
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: giving that up.

1007
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: I don't think I am either. I mean, I'm in

1008
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: super intrigued. Maybe he could be the answer, you know,

1009
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: maybe he could go you know, hit all this, you

1010
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: know the heights that we thought if a man that

1011
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: really hamstrings via four and then you gonna pay him.

1012
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: And you're gonna pay him. I just we just gave up.

1013
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 2: We have you said the majority of an hour on

1014
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: what your resources are.

1015
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: You have five picks in the first four rounds, which

1016
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: is nice.

1017
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: It is nice.

1018
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna have three if you make that trade.

1019
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, at two and a five, i'd think about don't

1020
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: have a five, right.

1021
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: They don't have a five?

1022
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, two and extra five I think about. But I

1023
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: can't give you two of those. I need to get

1024
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: four potential starters out of this draft. Yeah.

1025
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: Here's the other problem is you know the other teams

1026
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 1: involved here that they have, well, the Falcons they.

1027
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 2: Have ahead of the steel they have the forty third

1028
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, yeah, the Raiders, New England, New England. Yeah.

1029
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: Like these teams all pick ahead of Pittsburgh.

1030
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: I'm not sure we've talked about this on the air,

1031
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: but I know we did off the air. And which

1032
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: I think is smart is if this was Patriots Nation

1033
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: Radio and Marvin Harrison sitting there, and I can get

1034
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: Fields with my second round the straight up, and I

1035
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: can team Fields and Martin Marvin. Yeah, then all it

1036
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: costs me are my first two picks. That's the move, man,

1037
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: that's the move. That's the move, you know, right. They

1038
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: also have some potential the Bears, I want that early second.

1039
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: Potential offers for the number one overall pick. Oh wow,

1040
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: for Washington which has number two. They could get the

1041
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: number Washington's number two pick, a twenty twenty four second

1042
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: round pick, which is forty, and the twenty twenty five

1043
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: first round pick to move up one spot, to move

1044
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: up one spot, and you could still take Drake May

1045
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: or Jayden Daniels and still have all that extra.

1046
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and still trade fields and still trade fields

1047
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: right right right, if you're close, you never cut corners

1048
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: at quarterback. If you really think Williams is better than May,

1049
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I make that deal, but if

1050
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: they're close, I do that deal with a thousand times off,

1051
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 2: a thousand from Chicago. Yeah, I mean think if you're Chicago,

1052
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: and then you could listen entertainment again, you do not

1053
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: even take Marlin Harrison and hold on to face.

1054
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: You have two high second round picks and.

1055
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: Don't trade fields right right, or trade down again from two.

1056
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: You could come out of this draft with like four starters,

1057
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: five starters, Yeah, cheap, and next year you have next

1058
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: year's first and you.

1059
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: Have tons of caps face and I mean like the

1060
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: Bears have serious cards.

1061
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. New England would move up from the third pick.

1062
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: They trade their third round pick, their third overall pick,

1063
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: their twenty twenty four second round pick, which is thirty

1064
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: fourth overall, and a twenty twenty five first round pick again.

1065
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: Same deal, same deals, right, Yeah.

1066
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: The Falcons because they're coming up even farther.

1067
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: I bet it costs more than going up to get

1068
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 2: Bryce Young the eighth overall pick, sure.

1069
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five second round, twenty twenty five first round pick,

1070
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty five second round pick, a twenty twenty

1071
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: six first round pick, and a twenty twenty six second.

1072
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: Round pick three first two seconds. I'm doing that if

1073
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 2: you're the Bears. Yeah, and just hold on the field,

1074
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: and just hold on the fields, like because then you're

1075
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 2: sitting there at like what eight.

1076
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: Because I got two first round picks the next two

1077
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: seasons forever never ever, if I if I figure out

1078
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: the fields, isn't the guy I got the to go

1079
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: up in future.

1080
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 2: Drafts anytime you want, Yeah, anytime you want.

1081
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: Is Caleb Williams that great? I don't think so.

1082
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: Plus you have them where I was going through or

1083
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: Andrew luck here. I have not watched a lot of

1084
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 2: Williams because he's very Steeler irrelevant. I mean, some people

1085
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: really love him. I mean, if we think he's that special, maybe, But.

1086
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: If Atlanta, if I'm Chicago's GM and Atlanta made that

1087
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: offer to me done.

1088
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: I love getting tons of future picks and all that

1089
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: stuff too.

1090
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: I mean, first, the second round picks in each of

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00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: the next three drafts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think a Lanta's gonna win the

1093
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: Super Bowl next year. No, I mean they're gonna be

1094
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 2: bad for a while probably. And then what I was

1095
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: gonna say is the Bears also owned their pick, which

1096
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: is nine or ten, right, so you'd have two right

1097
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: in the same name.

1098
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: You have two top ten. You'd have two top ten

1099
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: picks this year.

1100
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 2: And I would be real interested in maybe moving from eight,

1101
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: but that's where you're getting this deal, right, Yeah, nine,

1102
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: I'd love to go get a Dounez though, you know,

1103
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: like I'd wouldn't mind going back to six.

1104
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: Or Sam might get a Dounja where they're sitting at Yeah,

1105
00:47:59,320 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: at eight.

1106
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: I mean if I'm if I'm gonna keep Fields I

1107
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 2: can get I'm gonna get him one of those three

1108
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: receivers too, brock Powers.

1109
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: Four of those guys and three guys in front of

1110
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: us are gonna.

1111
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: Intacticles are going to go and quarterbacks. Then yeah, but

1112
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: I don't want to sit there and take late two.

1113
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: And no, you know what I mean, if I'm gonna

1114
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: take Fields, I'm getting him some serious firepower. Yeah, yeah,

1115
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 2: which would be awesome.

1116
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: That to me is more attractive than trading for an

1117
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: unknown another unknown at quarterback, because you just you just

1118
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: went through Justin Field's growing pains.

1119
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: Right, you just dealt with that because of what you

1120
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: get back. Yeah, if it's as simple as trade Fields

1121
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: for the Patriots early second and draft Williams or keep

1122
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: fields and draft Marvin Well, I'm taking the quarterback, ye one,

1123
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But if I'm going to

1124
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: get that kind of package, and I just and I

1125
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 2: have a quarterback here that I love and my fan

1126
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: base loves and my teammates love, that has a lot

1127
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: of ability. The new coordinator and I still I mean

1128
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: thrown to DJ Moore. And this year I gotta pay.

1129
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit more. Next year he's like twenty

1130
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: five over two years, I get two more years.

1131
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: They have so much money Anywayeah, I got two more

1132
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: years that figure, right, And I always at the end

1133
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 2: of those.

1134
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: Two years, I'll still have two first round draft picks.

1135
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Washington deal, you might have first

1136
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: overall again next year. It might be the same as

1137
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: a Panther deal you just made. I mean, they could

1138
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: be that bad. They even they move up for Williams.

1139
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: Do you think they're winning the division. No, you know

1140
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1141
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have You're definitely pickings.

1142
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: Aren't the Bills picks, you know, right, I mean you're

1143
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: you're training the teams that don't have quarterbacks and they're

1144
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: hoping that they do get one in the deal, but

1145
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: it's take a while. And yeah, I mean you can

1146
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 2: you can package tons of stuff up to go get

1147
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: the next Andrew Luck or whatever. Yeah, I'm always open

1148
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: to that if you can give me a ton of

1149
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: cards to work with, you know, a lot of aces

1150
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 2: and kings like yeah.

1151
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: I mean if if we were talking about Peyton Manning,

1152
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: or we're talking about Andrew Luck, or we're talking about

1153
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: he can't miss prospect.

1154
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: And Williams might be I mean, I might change my

1155
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: tune the more I don't learn about him. But he's

1156
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: not overwhelming.

1157
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: When I see the Compson, it's kind of Murray.

1158
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1159
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I already got Kyler Murray, I got Justin Fields.

1160
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't need to you know, three years of three

1161
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 1: more years of manageable salary cap stuff. As you mentioned,

1162
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: I don't need this out. I got plenty of salary

1163
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: cap space.

1164
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I maybe he's maybe Williams has a

1165
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: better career than Fields. Okay, sure it's very possible, but

1166
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: my offense will be pretty darn good with running back

1167
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: what I have with Dj Moore Fields and the Dons

1168
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 2: or Ours or both.

1169
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 1: Cole Comet's not bad.

1170
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, I get some lines, okay, right, and

1171
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: I spend a bunch of money on defense or you know.

1172
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: I mean, by the way, you still have like eighty

1173
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: million cap space too, I mean you'd be a lot

1174
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: more loaded than that too. Yeah, it's a fun team,

1175
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 2: be fun to be the Bears GM right now, just

1176
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: listen to the offers.

1177
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: If I got that offer, I'm taking it.

1178
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: I'd have dinner with Washington with the combine too, because

1179
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm really impressed with Drake May. And I

1180
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: know some people think May is better than Williams. If

1181
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: I go to two and get Washington's first round pick

1182
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 2: next year and the second, yeah.

1183
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: But there's no guarantee that Washington, if they move up,

1184
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: they aren't taking May.

1185
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: But they don't take that. I mean, if I think

1186
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 2: that they're very very similar May and Williams, and I

1187
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: can go to two and pick up a premium.

1188
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: If I go to two, I can still trade down

1189
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: and go from two to three or two to four

1190
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: to the Marvin deal. Yeah, I can go to two

1191
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: from two to eight.

1192
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I do think I understand the value quarterbacks, trust me, folks.

1193
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 2: But I do think people are overrating or underrating how

1194
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: good a prospect. Marvin Harrison is like, right, you know,

1195
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: like I do this every year, Like if you had

1196
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: the bet before the draft one player that goes to

1197
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, it's definitely Harrison, you know what

1198
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: I mean. I don't take JaMarcus Russell over Calvin Johnson, Right.

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00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: Don't make that mistake. Yeah, let's get to a break here.

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Speaker 1: That's going to do it for our number one. He

1201
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I'm Dana Lally. We'll be back with

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Speaker 1: our number two of the drive right after this