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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature Future production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, it is

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Speaker 1: hot outside and I need to cool off, so maybe

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Speaker 1: I'll lick my arms. We're having a heat wave here

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Speaker 1: and I imagine a lot of you out there are

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Speaker 1: dealing with the same. So let's cool down with some

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Speaker 1: stories of how animals beat the heat, from the origin

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Speaker 1: of sweat to the only trickle down theory that actually works.

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Speaker 1: We're going to find out that when it comes to

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Speaker 1: cooling down, no bodily fluid is off the table. Discover

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Speaker 1: this more as we answer the age old question why

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Speaker 1: do dogs pants? Is it because they don't want to skirt?

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Speaker 1: Joining me today is Front of the show my producer

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Speaker 1: producer at I Heart Radio of Many a fine podcast,

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Speaker 1: an overall wonderful person, Joel Monique. Welcome, Fie, Katie. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for having me back. I am so

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Speaker 1: excited to have you back. I love recording with you

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Speaker 1: and it's always great to catch up. Yes hell yes,

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Speaker 1: especially in this heat. Uh listeners, my air conditioner has

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Speaker 1: just kicked on. Hopefully it's not interfering too much, but

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Speaker 1: it can't go off because it is extremely hot out here.

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Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. We can tolerate some air conditioner white noise

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Speaker 1: in the background to keep you from melting. That is acceptable. Uh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is hot here. We've been having temperatures and like

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Speaker 1: pretty bad. I live in um Tour in Italy, which

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Speaker 1: And you live in southern California. Yes, I just got

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Speaker 1: I'll just go hang out with my bare feet just

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Speaker 1: on the roof. It'll be classic Californian and my feet

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Speaker 1: that You've got to put some sts on back in

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Speaker 1: that house before we die of It was so hot.

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Speaker 1: My dog was trying to come out. I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: your poor pads on. Your absolutely not. It's just it's

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Speaker 1: unbearable until the night comes and then it's lovely. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is. It's hard. I think when it's just so hot,

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Speaker 1: can get pretty bad. Of course it's getting worse. I

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Speaker 1: probably cannot do this animal themed, environmental themed episode without

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Speaker 1: mentioning global warming the elephant in the room, although that's

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Speaker 1: that's mean to elephants. Let's not put that on thee

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, there are record droughts here. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty bad, and you know, it's just it's another reminder

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Speaker 1: It's happening now and it sucks. Yes, it does suck.

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Speaker 1: I'm keen. We should sleep during the day. We have

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Speaker 1: to adapt as our ancestors did, and we should be

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Speaker 1: we can be come nocturnal creatures and enjoy the night

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Speaker 1: when it's acceptably cool. This sounds good to me. I

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Speaker 1: like this idea. Also, just like we should become semi

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Speaker 1: aquatic if I could sleep in like a water bed,

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Speaker 1: not a water bed where it's dumb and it's like

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Speaker 1: and be right without drowning. That's the trick. How do

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Speaker 1: I do that without drowning? Scientists, you know, stop worrying

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Speaker 1: about stopping global warming and get on, you know, the

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Speaker 1: water bed the submersible beds. So yeah, it is. It's

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Speaker 1: stay cool. But first, I do want to talk about sweating,

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Speaker 1: because you know that you're probably familiar with I don't

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Speaker 1: I sweat a huge amount while doing podcasts. I don't

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Speaker 1: is happening in your ears. But yes, so humans sweat

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Speaker 1: a lot, and we sweat to keep cool, but we

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Speaker 1: ancestors who used that sweat to better grip onto things

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Speaker 1: And so that is why we still have a lot

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Speaker 1: includes rats who also like to lick a specific body part.

425
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: Uh but it is the males and they like to

426
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: lick their scrow ums. Oh boy, So the males promise

427
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: they're just doing this to cool down. It is nothing weird,

428
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: nothing perverse. Ah, These little little rats just telling scientists like, yeah,

429
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: it's too cool down. Yeah, you don't worry about it,

430
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: can't worrying on towards This is just how we sleep. Yeah, sure,

431
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: turn away, dacty say, and don't worry about this. Um. So, yeah,

432
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: rats don't only lick their scrotums to stay cool. They

433
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: will lick their whole bodies. They mostly focus on their feet,

434
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: their tails, and the males like to focus on their scrotum. Uh.

435
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: So if that sounds like they're just a little weird

436
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: little kinksters. It is actually because of a similar reason

437
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: why kangaroos like their arms. They're focusing on their body

438
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: parts that have the least amount of fur because this

439
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: is the most efficient when it comes to evaporative cooling.

440
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: The cooling effect is the closest to their blood vessel. Uh,

441
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: And so they may lick their scrotums um and get

442
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: some coolness down there. And look, little buddies, whatever you

443
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: gotta do to keep cool in this heat. You know, listen,

444
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: you don't want to reach that point where you're like,

445
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: I can't hardly breathe. I am so like just my

446
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: lungs feel sticky that when I lived in a place

447
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: that was humid, that was the issue, is I would

448
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: be like trying to get in a deep breath that

449
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: you would just feel the heat inside of your body. So,

450
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: while we don't recommend you try all of the ways

451
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: these animals are staying cool, we definitely understand that you

452
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: have to do what you have to do. It's harder

453
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: to sweat in humidity, so your body's natural evaporative cooling

454
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: technique doesn't work, and really high humidity. Yeah, So so

455
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: it has to do with the fact that when you're

456
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: in drier weather and you have a breeze and you

457
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: have the heat, um making water vapor is relatively straightforward.

458
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: But in high humidity environments, UH, the the ambient air

459
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: is already somewhat saturated with uh with water vapor, and

460
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: so the air has a certain capacity for water vapor.

461
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: So sweat doesn't really evaporate. There's not enough room for

462
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: it in the surrounding air, and so you may feel

463
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: like you sweat more in human conditions, but really you're

464
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: just you're sweating the normal amount, but it's not evaporating,

465
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: and so you're not really getting the benefits. So you'll

466
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: be hot and sticky and muggy and you're not getting

467
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: that evaporative cooling technique, which is why hot and humid

468
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: is one of the worst experiences for a human being.

469
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: It's explaining a lot about Florida. I get it now.

470
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: Every Florida man is partially forgiven because you had to

471
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: deal with that. It sounds terrible. Yeah, yeah, you got it.

472
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: You got a factor in humidity when people commit crimes.

473
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, but was it humid? Because I kind

474
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: of get it. Then stay cool, But yeah, so it is.

475
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: It's really like that horrible feeling you get when it's humid,

476
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: Like it really reminds you how effective and how good

477
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: our body system of sweating is, because without the evaporative

478
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: cooling of our sweat, it gets really miserable. But when

479
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: we get back, we're actually going to talk about some

480
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: animals who do have a technique to try to cool

481
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: down even in somewhat humid conditions. And so, you know,

482
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: just lay back, lick your arms, and keep it cool

483
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: and we will be right back. Joel, your favorite topic.

484
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's it's birds. It's birds. Oh good, here

485
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: we go, here we go. Okay, all right, tell me

486
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: about birds. Sweaty birds. Well, unlike the mammals we talked about,

487
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: birds truly do not have sweat glands even on their feet. Uh.

488
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: And their mouths and tongues tend to be relatively dry,

489
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: of course, depending on the species, and they really only

490
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: typically produce saliva for swallowing purposes. So like preening their feathers,

491
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: licking themselves is not going to be a super effective

492
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: way to cool down. Like mammals, they can't sweat. So

493
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: how do these poor little birdies stay cool? Well, they

494
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: have to get really creative, I mean really really really creative,

495
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: just like storks and vultures, who have a very crappy

496
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: way of cooling down, if you know what I mean,

497
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: a real air crap fish and our craps really hitting

498
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: the fans, so to speak. It's poop, it's poop, joel, Oh, no, Katy,

499
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: what are you doing to well? Storks and vultures poop

500
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 1: on their legs to stay cool. That we have found

501
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: the one time I would prefer to be hot. So

502
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: this process is called euro hydrosis, and it's a method

503
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: done by some species of birds to cool themselves down

504
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: in the heat. So bird poop is usually more of

505
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: a liquid. So bird's got one hole that does it

506
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: all the cloaca uh so they do not have separate

507
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: holes for separate functions like alone. Yeah, And so when

508
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: they poop, it's often mixed with urine and it can

509
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: be quite runny. That's why bird poop is typically pretty

510
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: running and therefore it is wet. And what have we

511
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: learned about wetness evaporative cooling? So absolutely so, wetness can

512
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: evaporate bing bang boom. Now you've got an evaporative cooler

513
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: on your legs, man out of poop. I don't see

514
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: what the problem is. It all comes out of one

515
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: hole to start that problem. Number one, Now you're covered

516
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: in poop. Yeah, I know sullivan evaporates, but I'm doubting

517
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: that every last bit of it, that is you are

518
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: correct in that assumption. Um. Sometimes you will see storks

519
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: and vultures with these adorable white stockings on their legs. Uh.

520
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 1: And those stockings are actually poop. In fact, the poop

521
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: so thoroughly covers maraboo stork legs that it is easy

522
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: to mistake them for having white legs and black feet,

523
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: when in fact they have black legs. Um, and all

524
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: that white stuff is poopies. I'm struggling to see the

525
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: good side of bridge. As scary as they were before,

526
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: and now they're unhygienic and disgusting. Well in terms of hygiene,

527
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: at least for New World vultures who do this poop

528
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: on their legs trick. Their poop is very hygienic. So vultures,

529
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: despite having a reputation for being gross because they eat

530
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: carry on rotting food and so you think they'd be

531
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: real nasty, they're actually very fastidious and their gut contains

532
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: very strong anti microbial antibacterial properties, so they don't get

533
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,479
Speaker 1: sick when they eat rotting, festering carrion. And so it's

534
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: speculated and being researched that their poop may also have

535
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: antiseptic properties, and so when they poop on their legs,

536
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: it may actually be killing harmful bacteria on their legs.

537
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: And so not only are they cooling themselves down, but

538
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: they are cleaning their legs, if you can call poop

539
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: covered legs clean. I have never heard of a poop

540
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 1: sanitizers before. Uh, my mind is a little bit blown.

541
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: I thought poop could only make things much dirtier and

542
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: disgusting because typically we're expelling things like bacteria and microbes

543
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: out of our system that we don't want to keep

544
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: in there, and so it's coming out in our poop,

545
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: and so that poop is very unhygienic. You know, you

546
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: don't want to touch it. You don't want to you know,

547
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: get it around. And probably the reason we find it

548
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: so disgusting is that is an evolutionary trait to keep

549
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: us from playing with poop and getting it all around

550
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: and getting it in our bodies, because that can make

551
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: it sick. It's also a method of transmission of things

552
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: like parasites. So yeah, our poop is disgusting, don't touch it,

553
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: whereas a vulture poop potentially not as disgusting, more antiseptic. Now,

554
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade in your bottle of hand sanitizer for

555
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: a turkey vulture quite yet. Um, but it is a

556
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: topic of research. There are studies I think really recent,

557
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: I think in two I don't know if they've actually

558
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: come out with the results yet, but they are investigating

559
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: the anti microbial properties of turkey vulture poop. So that

560
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: is exciting. What was I just reading Turkey vulture poop monthly?

561
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Hopefully not. No, I lost it. I'm sorry,

562
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: but I will see. It's impressive the way the animal

563
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: kingdom has adapted, and I'm sure it will unfortunately have

564
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: to continue to adapt to keep themselves cool. I'm glad

565
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: that we don't have to do it that way. Yeah.

566
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: I prefer the refrigerated water inside of my house method

567
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 1: of cooling. Yes, yeah, I mean not all birds cool

568
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: this way. In fact, it really is. It does seem

569
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: to only be uh storks and New World vultures, other

570
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: birds who don't crap all over themselves. Um, we'll actually

571
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: do things like goal or fluttering where they flutter the

572
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: gol or sack that's like the throat sack. Uh. And

573
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: so this causes air to run over the inside of

574
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: their throats and mouths, evaporating moisture from their mucous membranes.

575
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: So they essentially pant like a dog, just using slightly

576
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: different muscle action. It looks like a boa. And if

577
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: I was ever going to do jag, this is how

578
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: I would be, Like, this is how I cool myself down.

579
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: Get like a nice big boa. Now I'll make it flutter.

580
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 1: It would be very fun that you'd be called miss

581
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: gol or sack, which you know, I don't know. It's

582
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: like I I like it. I think it's a good name.

583
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: I love its gali sack. Let's go. So, so, why

584
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: then if a lot of birds use this goal or fluttering,

585
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: which does make them sound very southern bell, doesn't golor fluttering? Um,

586
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: like they have some kind of like you know eighteen

587
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: hundreds weird diagnostic we gave to women where it's like

588
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: wandering womb and goal or fluttering. But yeah, so why

589
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: do some birds do goal or fluttering? Where as the

590
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: storks and New World vultures seem to do this poop

591
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: on the leg tricks. Uh. So, researchers are trying to

592
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: figure out why these birds evolve this strategy. Some of

593
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: their observations about like the where these birds tend to

594
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: be and what characteristics they share for the poop on

595
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: the legs cooling air conditioner is that they tend to

596
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: live in hot, humid and not super windy environments and

597
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: so yeah, so it's like it is harder for us

598
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: to cool off with evaporative cooling in uh somewhat human environments.

599
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: So like having a bunch like sort of drenching your

600
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: legs in this over a wider surface area, you're maybe

601
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: going to have a little bit more success with some

602
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: evaporative cooling. It's like when you're in a really hot

603
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: environments and maybe there's a little bit of humidity tool

604
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: and your sweats not doing enough, you really just want

605
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: to dunk some water over your head, Like take a

606
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: water bottle and dunk it on yourself. It's like the

607
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: best feeling. I want to get one of those giant Yeah,

608
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: It's like when it's hot out, that's like the only

609
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: time I want to be a coach because it's like, yes,

610
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: if I win the championship. Around it just feels like

611
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: so that poop conditioner also only works if you have

612
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: access to water while not living in it. So like,

613
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: if you live in water, you don't really need to

614
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: poop on yourself to stay cool because you're in water.

615
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: But if you're not living in water, however, you do

616
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: have access to a lot of water, you can spare

617
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: that moisture that you're pooping out. And it's sort of

618
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: like if you have a bottle of water and you

619
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: have access to a lot of water, you're not worried

620
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: about it. You can dunk it on your head. But

621
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: if you don't have a lot of access to water,

622
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: you're not going to waste it on cooling yourself down

623
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 1: because you know you'll be thirsty. Um. It's like that,

624
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: but in evolutionary terms, soity to adapt to any situation. Uh,

625
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of humbling. Yeah, I would never think to

626
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: do half of these things. Again, I'm with you, find

627
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: me a bed, submarge me in the water, h let

628
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: me become amphibious. This is the only way I would

629
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: It's the ingenuity of like, you know, hundreds of thousands

630
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: or millions of years of just like, did this animal

631
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: dive heat stroke or did it somehow managed to pass

632
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: on its jeans? And that's that's it, And it creates

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Speaker 1: such an incredible complexity of like birds pooping on their

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Speaker 1: legs to stay cool. It is incredible. Another aspect to

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Speaker 1: these birds is they have relatively long legs. Of course,

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Speaker 1: storks obviously very long legs, runway ready legs. To a

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Speaker 1: lesser extent, New World vultures they do still have quite

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Speaker 1: long legs, and they live in these similar hot, slightly

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Speaker 1: human environmental conditions with access to water, but they're not

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Speaker 1: semi aquatic. So this seems to be the recipe for

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Speaker 1: these birds to poop on their legs, and it's really interesting. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I don't live in a human space so

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Speaker 1: I don't have to witness it. But I'm glad the

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Speaker 1: birds have figured out a system that works for them.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to shame anyone again for how they

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Speaker 1: stay cool, so I'm just gonna stay good on you

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Speaker 1: bird do want you must to stay cool, So I

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Speaker 1: hope this helped cool you down. Everyone listening, you know

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Speaker 1: I'm not telling you to like lick your forums or

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Speaker 1: poop on your legs, especially the latter. Um, I don't

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Speaker 1: do that last part licking your arms, I mean if

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Speaker 1: they're clean. You know, look who am. I don't think

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Speaker 1: going to be very successful, but you could try. We

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Speaker 1: have we have sweat that that is, we are already

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Speaker 1: equipped with a really good cooling system. But you know,

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Speaker 1: if if you if you want to see what it's

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Speaker 1: like to be a kangaroo, you know, go for it.

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Speaker 1: I'll say that. But before we go, we've got to

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Speaker 1: play a little game called Guess Who's Squawking? I mean,

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Speaker 1: like some theme music like da da da d um.

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Speaker 1: We can get you sound from the music life. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll hang on the future me put game show music

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Speaker 1: in right now. Welcome to Guess Who's Squawking the Mystery

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Speaker 1: Animal Sound game. You could win a brand new car Boo.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I do love Cariboo too. Uh So last

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Speaker 1: week's Mr Animal Sound The hint you can tell this

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Speaker 1: is from a I think it was actually the week

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Speaker 1: before last week because I had to take a little

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Speaker 1: break last week, but the hint was I know Father's

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Speaker 1: Day was the last week. At this point, is like

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Speaker 1: last last my last, last, last week. Um okay continues,

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Speaker 1: but it's still not too late to celebrate the amazing

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Speaker 1: dad who makes this sound? M hm that hell mm

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Speaker 1: hm m hmm. What is that? Okay, it's it's deep.

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Speaker 1: Might it sounds frog like in nature? But you're saying

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Speaker 1: it's definitely a bird. I didn't say it's definitely a bird. Um,

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Speaker 1: it is an animal. It could be a bird. M

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Speaker 1: m hm. I never thought of a bird being able

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Speaker 1: to go that deep, but I know they have a

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Speaker 1: lit range. Ah, I'm gonna guess some kind of jungle bird.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say South American. Mm hmm. I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: a swallow. M that's very interesting. You were right on

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Speaker 1: the South American part, but not so right on the swallow.

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Speaker 1: So this is the Riha. It is a large flightless

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Speaker 1: bird that is distantly related to the ostrich and emu

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Speaker 1: and lives in South America. They are smaller than the ostrich,

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Speaker 1: kind of like a fun sized Ostrich. So male reria's

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00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: make this booming call to attract females to mate. It's

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Speaker 1: a very low frequency. In fact, some of you out

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Speaker 1: there may not be able to hear it at all,

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Speaker 1: depending on the range of your hearing. Uh, it is

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Speaker 1: such a low low frequency. They will mate with several

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Speaker 1: different females and they are great dads. So the females

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Speaker 1: will lay the eggs in a male's nest, a scraped

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Speaker 1: out area of dirt, and then the females are like,

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Speaker 1: I'm out of here. See good luck, because I know

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Speaker 1: their job is over. And the males are the ones

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Speaker 1: who incubate and later protect the hatchlings. Wow, how do

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Speaker 1: we aspire? Can we switch places? I too? Like listen,

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Speaker 1: they're like lit. We'll take many a lover, but we'll

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Speaker 1: raise all the kids and women can go rest? Or

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Speaker 1: do you have to carry the baby? So after that,

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Speaker 1: you know, chill for a bit? I really I appreciate

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Speaker 1: this style. I think to do modern world, we should

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Speaker 1: all be adapting to what this bird is doing. They

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Speaker 1: know what's up. Oh, let's inject rha DNA into our

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Speaker 1: human DNA. I'm sure that'll end. Well, it's so onto

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Speaker 1: this week's mystery animal. Sound the This monster can devour

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Speaker 1: entire hills. But are you still just a baby? Oh? Whoa,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess it's a real housewife of New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: They were very disaster you it does sound a little

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Speaker 1: bit of that of that like you and Devour Hill. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say with real House all right, Yeah no,

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Speaker 1: that's a fair guess. Well, if you out there think

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Speaker 1: you know who's squawking, you can write to me at

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Speaker 1: Creature Feature Pod at gmail dot com. I'm also on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Creature feet Pod. That's not very different, Joel.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for keeping it cool with me,

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Speaker 1: learning about how animals stay cool and tolerating our discussions

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Speaker 1: of birds crapping on themselves. Where can people find you? Hi, guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me back, Katie. This

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Speaker 1: was wonderful. I always learned something new when I'm here,

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Speaker 1: and that's a gift. Uh. You guys can find me

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Speaker 1: all over the internet, actually when you get to j

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Speaker 1: O E L L E M O n I q

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Speaker 1: u E. I also have a new podcast, it's called

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Speaker 1: Comic Con metapod, where every week we do a deep

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Speaker 1: dive into a convention. So we had a great episode

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Speaker 1: where we talked to the creators and writers and voices

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Speaker 1: behind the Avatar, the last Airbendrew series. Last week we

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Speaker 1: did a deep dive into a bunch of different Marvel

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Speaker 1: characters and coming up uh next week, we're going to

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Speaker 1: do a dive into thor Love and Thunder with one

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Speaker 1: of your workal artists and my friend Rosie Night, talking

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Speaker 1: about all things thor So. If you guys are into Marvel, DC,

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Speaker 1: video games, movies, whatever, coming out with us. It's like

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Speaker 1: going to a con without having to risk any of

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Speaker 1: the concrude, which for the safety of your own home,

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Speaker 1: which is fly. It's my favorite. Speaking of sweat comic con,

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Speaker 1: I don't mean and I love you guys, but deodorant

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Speaker 1: is a gift um. But that sounds incredible, That sounds

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Speaker 1: really fun. Please do I ask those people at Marvel

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Speaker 1: why they have Spider Man but no Storkman, who his

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Speaker 1: power is pooping on his legs. I'm gonna pitt you

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Speaker 1: to fight you right now. Well, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: coming on a treasure always, and thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for listening. If you're enjoying this show and you want

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Speaker 1: to leave a rating or review, I certainly do appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I really, I truly do read all the reviews and

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Speaker 1: they make me so happy. So thank you so much

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