1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites the podcast from the Volume Podcast Network. 2 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: I am Chad Nouman. We are probably ninety less than 3 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: ninety days away from the start of the NFL season. 4 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: We are in mid June, which means we are about 5 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: five weeks away from the beginning of training camps. What 6 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: matters the most when you talk about NFL training camps quarterbacks. 7 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: We have the perfect guests to talk about quarterbacks today. 8 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: The most challenging, intriguing, interesting, exciting quarterback room scenarios with 9 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: Matthew Freedman. The best quarterbacks against the point spread with 10 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: Matthew Freedman and Simon Hunter. The quarterback scenarios you must 11 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: bet on in week one according to the opportunities presented 12 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: by our friends and friendly sponsors at Vanduel. Simon Hunter 13 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: is gonna talk about that. Matthew Freeman's gonna respond to that, 14 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: which means it's time to welcome in my BFF, my 15 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: companion professional better Sigmon Hunter. Hello, Chad, right off the top, 16 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: where you going next week? You're saying you need a 17 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: week off. I need to know. I didn't want to ask, 18 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: I want to say for the show, where's Shad going? 19 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: You're taking an actual vacation. I'm listen to me, Listen 20 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: to me, listening. I am taking an actual vacation, not 21 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: just like a vacation, but I'll be online vacation, which 22 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: is what everybody has done during the pandemic. And you know, 23 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm a leader what I try to do, and I 24 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: have been preaching to all of my friends and colleagues 25 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: at the Action Network we all need to take vacation. 26 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: The pandemic has been incredibly stressful. If we were staying 27 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: at home with our families and taking time off, we 28 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: didn't know what to do with ourselves, and so we 29 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: continue to check our phones, were in Slack or in 30 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: Google Analytics. We're doing zoom calls because you might as well, 31 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: because you're just sitting there. Even when I took vacation 32 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: last year with my family and we left our house 33 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: in Connecticut and rented a house in Rhode Island, I 34 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: was still doing calls every day because it didn't feel 35 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: any different. We were just in a different place. Um. 36 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: So I am going to take vacation next week, and 37 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: I think it'll be the first time. And I'm not 38 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: saying this to be here. I'm just saying it, like 39 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: that's sort of just the reality, especially after the pandemic. Uh. 40 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: We're renting a house and keepe got My sister is 41 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: flying in from the Bay Area with her husband and 42 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: three kids. All of us got a house together. My 43 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: dad is going to fly in from Chicago. He's going 44 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: to stay at a hotel nearby because there's not enough 45 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: room in the house because there's like ten of us 46 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: in the house. And I'm totally unplugging. Like yesterday, I 47 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: went through and canceled meetings. I let you guys know 48 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna be around for the podcast. I let 49 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: my friend Colin Cowherd no, I wasn't gonna be around 50 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: to do his podcast. Uh we I found guest host 51 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: for our various NBA shows. We're launching a new show 52 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: with MLB. We're gonna rehearse it next week. I won't 53 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: be there. I'm just not gonna check in. It's gonna 54 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: be like a real vacation Jack God during Gray White season. 55 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: That's why I love you, Chad. You're the best. No 56 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: fear my friend, Chad. I have to know, do I 57 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: get to be the guest host once again on this 58 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: podcast when you were gone? Next week? Listen. It's I'll 59 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: tell you what. I'll tell you what. It's up to Matt, 60 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: Mitchell and Simon I said to them yesterday, entirely up 61 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: to you, guys. You want to skip the week, skip 62 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: the week? You want to find a guest host. Find 63 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: a guest host. Uh, if you want to be the 64 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: guest host, Freeman, there's only one thing you need to 65 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: do before the end of the week. I think you 66 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: know what it is. I think I know you know 67 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: what I want you to do. You give me the 68 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: right answer, and fuck yes, we will do a podcast 69 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: at least one and you can guest Toston. Okay, Well, 70 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: I would say that based on my previous appearance, I 71 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: should automatically be the guest host anytime you go on vacation, 72 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: regardless of whatever answer I do or do not come 73 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: back with on Friday. Well, listen, I disagree with you, 74 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: So only if you give me the answer I want, 75 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: can you be the guest host. But that's what I'm Simon, 76 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,559 Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do. Not afraid of sharks. I 77 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: eat sharks for breakfast. Well. As a surfer, the first 78 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: thing I teach you is you punch the nose or 79 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: you stick your finger in their eye. Chat. So no 80 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: matter what, buddy, as long as you keep in mind 81 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: when you got your legs chopped down on, you're gonna 82 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: get out of it. Don't worry. The truth is I 83 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: actually eat rowdots for breakfast the night overnight rolldotes. Simon, 84 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: you've been bidden by a shark, didn't you once have 85 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: continuely taken off by a shark? Yeah, it's one of 86 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: my classic lines at a bar to a girl, I've 87 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: been been bit by a shark, and then later on 88 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: I tell him it was a baby shark, and uh, 89 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: there is no mark. It would bit my hand. But yep, 90 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm a shark survivor. Chad. I'm surprised that your love 91 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: life is going the way it is, given that that's 92 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: one of your opening lines. How there you, I'm I 93 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: am actually killing it. The roying twenties. Chad already told 94 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: you if there was ever a time in human history 95 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: to be single, it's right after a pandemic. I'm telling 96 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: you it's it's literally fishing with dynamite right now, Chad, 97 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: I can't miss It's it's a good life. Tell me 98 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: the latest that I need to know. Oh, I I 99 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: am soulless right now. Ever since I got my Heartbrook 100 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: and I was trying to go for the relationship. Now 101 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: I've gone the complete other way where I'm just and 102 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm an assassin right now. I'm I do not care. 103 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm just just. I can't find happiness and I'm just 104 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: going through the motions. But it's just so many people 105 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: are just out right now. It's just like usually I'll 106 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: be honest. In our area, New Jersey, the the tri 107 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: state Northeast area. Um, the women here are tough. They've 108 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: been burned by a lot of men, so they they're 109 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: they got a little guard up, but they think every 110 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: guy's a scumbag, which to them, they're right, most guys 111 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: are scumbags. Um. But because they've been trapped inside for 112 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: a year and a half, I've never met so many 113 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: happy girls in New Jersey. It's incredible right now, especially 114 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, like nice happy girls right now. So it 115 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: is a magical time. I will tell you, I uh 116 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: married a woman from Staten Island, obviously the Tristate area. Uh. 117 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: She could not be the sweetest. She is the sweetest, kindest, 118 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: most empathetic. Like you look in her eyes and you 119 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: know She only wants to help you do good with 120 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: whatever you want, right, And so like I've seen her 121 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: get Staten Island and say, you crossed that line, Chad, Dude, 122 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: It's just like the Staten Island come out. Not on me, 123 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: but I've seen it happen because she's also an architect, 124 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: and so she deals with contractors, and like I've seen 125 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: her have to be Staten Island. And I gotta tell you, 126 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: I kind of love it. You know, I'm not living 127 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: a soulless life of emptiness like you, Simon, but you're 128 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: in I am in my fifties, that is true. I 129 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: have turned fifty. Hey, we're gonna talk about quarterbacks today, 130 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: and before we do that, I do want to show 131 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: one thing so as we know I love this is Sid. 132 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: This is a Sid Luckman, bubblehead, Sid Luckman, who was 133 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: a quarterback for the Bears for most of their championships. 134 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: Uh in sort of their glory years. Looking back and 135 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: like the thirties and forties, Um, I went to Colombia, 136 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: one of the greatest modern era, first modern era quarterbacks 137 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: that ever lived, right, said Luckman. Bubblehead went to high 138 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: school with his grandkids. Um, everyone knows I love the Bears. 139 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: You can see the Bears banner over my shoulder. We 140 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: talked about the Bears all the time. My heart opens 141 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: and closes with the Bears and what they're doing, what 142 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: they're not doing. So uh. A man named davek who 143 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: works for the Bears was listening to the podcast. Give 144 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: him a shout out. Set me a box of Bears swag, 145 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: including this Sid Luckman bobble head, uh, which we will 146 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: now refer to as Sid Lucky Luckman, and this will 147 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: be will rub his head and this will be how 148 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: we end up having a great season in Chicago, both 149 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: as betters, as fans, as a team on the road 150 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: back to glory with Justin Field. That's what I'm talking about. 151 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: If anybody's watching Bears social media, they saw Matt Nagy 152 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: throwing ropes during practice. Were coming back baby. Yeah. My favorite, 153 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: my favorite quote at the Bears gamp has to be 154 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: the receiver Um talking about he was smiling is first 155 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: time catching the ball from Justin fields because the ball 156 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: looks so perfect coming out of Justin Chance. I mean, 157 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: that has to make you feel so good, Chad, it does, 158 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: But you know what, it's interesting, like I get you 159 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: know I as you know, I was at ESPN for 160 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: a long time, and so I get alerts for a 161 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: lot of different teams, and I actually never stopped it. 162 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: You get alerts for a the teams that your boss 163 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: loves because you want to make sure, like if he 164 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: calls you on a Saturday morning, why did this happen? 165 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: I didn't get alert. You want to know if the 166 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: alert came or not. But also I get it for 167 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: like the Cowboys and the Patriots and like the high 168 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: profile teams, so I still get them, and every alert 169 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: from from ESPN reporters is framed. You know, Patriots coaches 170 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: love Matt Jones. They think he's amazing. I'm like, of course, 171 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: you're fucking saying that. You're writing about the Patriots for 172 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: fans of the Patriots. So I don't expect much critical 173 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: thinking to be happening about justin Fields right now. There's 174 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: all I would say about that. Freeman got anything to add. 175 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: I just want to say it was a great story, Chad. 176 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: It started strong and it finished stronger, and I can't 177 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: wait to fill in with equally strong stories next week. 178 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: I feel like Freeman is mocking me. I've never I've 179 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: never hated Freeman more than I do right now. I 180 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: believe that let's say, let's talk about quarterbacks. Uh, you know, Freedman, 181 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: before we came on, you wisely said we should look 182 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: at it from a room to room scenario. That's how 183 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: you've been thinking about it. Give me your thoughts on 184 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: what's happening in various quarterbacks rooms right now. Give me 185 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: the most intriguing, the most interesting, most exciting best cases 186 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: for quarterback rooms, meaning quarterback situations around the NFL. I 187 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: mean it starts with the Packers for sure. This is 188 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: the storyline that is owning the off season. Is Aaron 189 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: Rodgers going to report to Packers training camp if he 190 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: stays with the Packers? And I think that ultimately is 191 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: what happens, because really he has no leverage if he stays. 192 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: This is a top five, top three quarterback room just 193 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: because you have Aaron Rodgers coming off of an m 194 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: v P season and in today's NFL quarterbacks are aging 195 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: like wine. Even though he's older, he still could be 196 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: great for another three to five years. Of course, the 197 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: Packers have seemingly gone out of their way for the 198 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: past year to alienate their franchise quarterback and so it 199 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't be a surprise if somehow, a month, two months 200 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: from now, this is a bottom five quarterback room with 201 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers somehow retired or traded away if he gets 202 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: more leverage. And you're looking at two quarterbacks in Jordan's 203 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: Love and Blake Bortles, who you put them together, and 204 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, it's bad quarterback ste You really 205 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: don't even know which one you would rather have starting 206 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: in week one. So you have a a top five, 207 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: top three quarterback room right now with Aaron Rodgers. If 208 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: the Packers make a mistake and a half a month 209 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: from now, this could be a bottom three, bottom two 210 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: quarterback room that we're looking at. So this, to me 211 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: is the most intriguing quarterback room in the entire league. 212 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: Followed closely, I would say, by Houston with DeShawn Watson, 213 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: who knows what will happen with him, and then after him, 214 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor and Davis Mills. I mean, that's a really 215 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: bad situation looking at it in a vacuum, I don't 216 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: think Watson plays this year, and that means we got 217 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, who is imminently replaceable. But of course the 218 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 1: Texans don't have anyone to replace him with. I think 219 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: the Texans right now, even though they have Deshaun Watson, 220 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: they have the worst quarterback situation in the league. You 221 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: want to talk about a quarterback Stu, Bob Evelini, Mike Phipps, 222 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: Vince Evans. That's a run of quarterbacks for the Chicago 223 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: Bears in the seventies and eighties, which is why they're 224 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: giving out bubble heads of sid lave me signing your 225 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: thoughts on what Freeman just said. Yeah, I'm with him. Uh, 226 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: the Houston one is really intriguing because even if he 227 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: does play this year, Watson, that team is such a 228 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: train wreck. You just like look at them on paper. 229 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: They have like ten running backs and no receivers. It's 230 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: just the most bizarre put together team. And like, again, 231 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: do your own to Gillen. Gillen's read about the guy 232 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: who's running the team now the GM is. I don't know. 233 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: He's one of these stories where it's like this guy 234 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: who just talked his way into a position of football. 235 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: It's like he started out as a you know, working 236 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: for the church at the Patriots, and now he's all 237 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden running a team in the NFL, and 238 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: I don't think he knows what he's doing. And I 239 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: just look at that team that I took their under already. 240 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: I think it was five, might be down to four 241 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: and a half now. I just that that is. I'm 242 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: with him on it. It's just an absolute train wreck there. 243 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: But for all the like contriguement, to me, I'm really 244 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: interested in seeing what's gonna happen with the Bills. I 245 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: love Josh Allen so much, but I love the fact 246 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: that Bill's fans now have to live with the fact 247 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: that at any moment, are running quarterback they love could 248 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: go down and Mitch Drabinski is coming on the field. 249 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: It's just I love it. It. To me, there's nothing 250 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: better because we know how passionate Bills fans are. I 251 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: am waiting for it. In week three, week four, whatever happens, 252 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: Mitch has to come on the field, and I just 253 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: cannot wait to go to Twitter and just see what's 254 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: happening with Bill's fans because it's truly gonna be magical. 255 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: Well listen, hey, Mr Robinsky, I'll note sit leftmon bobble 256 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: head alright, number one, number two, the Bill's Simon. I 257 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: already bet of Bill's future. The Bills make monking you 258 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: throw your hands upthing town, throw your hand from now 259 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: the Bills. I'm making it happen. Now. I already bet 260 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: of Bill's future. And you're telling me how much you 261 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: love Josh Allen, And I know that that doesn't mean, 262 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: all right, go beat the Bill's future because of pricing 263 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: and everything else. But certainly compared to the Patriots, compared 264 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: to the Jets, compared to the Dolphins, it's hard to 265 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: find a better quarterback room in New England just by 266 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: virtue in the a f C is just by virtue 267 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: of who's on top of the food chain there. Yeah, 268 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: that's I definitely do think it's a great keep your room, 269 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. But I just love the drama 270 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: of the whole thing. Um. But I already told you 271 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be one of the rare people I'm gonna 272 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: be off the Bills that will come in season. I'm 273 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: just it's one of those teams I'm gonna zag on 274 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: because everyone's gonna be digging on. They just they're just 275 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: gonna come in so high. For good reason. They're a 276 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: great team. They're well coached. But that's why I told 277 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: you earlier on the year. I just love the value 278 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: on Miami. I just think the upside with tah everything 279 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: about Miami there just seems like there's more value built 280 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: into Miami than it is taking the bills at this point. Well, 281 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: it's an interesting way to look at it as from 282 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: a quarterback rooms perspect active, Right, Like Texans are a mess, 283 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: Packers could be a mess. There is a decent amount 284 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: of stability. You know, the Jags have stability right now. 285 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: You know that the Titans have stability, The Bengals, the Browns, 286 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: the Ravens, Steelers kind of have stability. Um, Broncos are 287 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: a mess. Charger's have stability, Raiders have stability, Chiefs hastability. 288 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: Jets have stability, but they're not going to be a 289 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: factor when it comes to quarterback room. So I'm just like, 290 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm doing this for the audience sake to narrow 291 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: down the conversations around quarterback rooms because Friedman, I think 292 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: the other two most interesting conversations have got to be 293 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Niners, where that's sort of the 294 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: most instability, most highest highest ceiling, lows floor. Yeah, that's interesting. 295 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: I think with the forty Niners. It's high ceiling, high 296 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: floor really regardless of whoever's quarterback. And a lot of 297 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: that is the offensive system. We've seen Jimmy garraw Popolo 298 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: have success when he's been healthy within that system. And 299 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: then Trey Lance, with the combination of arm strength and 300 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: rushing ability that he has, I think he could do 301 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: well pretty quickly if he ends up overtaking Garoppolo, whether 302 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: that's in the preseason or in the middle of the season. 303 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: So I think that's a pretty strong quarterback room. I 304 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: see your point entirely with the Eagles because there's so 305 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: much uncertainty both with the quarterback situation. Uh, will we 306 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: see the second rounder Jalen Hurts develop into a better 307 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: quarterback in his second season, and then with the offensive system, 308 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: he's going to have to learn something new and there's 309 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty with his wide receiver situations. And 310 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 1: then he has Joe Flacco. I mean, it's not as 311 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: if anyone's wanting Joe Flacco to start, but if Jalen 312 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: Hurts doesn't do well to start the season, a coaching 313 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: staff could look at Flacco and say, Okay, this guy 314 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,479 Speaker 1: is at least a veteran who's won a lot of 315 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: games in the NFL. So there is a lot of 316 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: volatility in Philadelphia in terms of how well Hurts could 317 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: do and then how poorly he could do, and then 318 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: what that means for the franchise. There cannot be hate 319 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: coaching staff with any credibility that looks at Jue Flacco 320 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: and says, yeah, this guy has won games eight years ago. 321 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: Let's give him a chance. Wow. Yeah that was Look 322 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: how cocky chat is? Chat? I remind you you we 323 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: didn't want to go against Joe Flacca with Justin Herbert. 324 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: That's how we got knocked out our Survivor contest. Do 325 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: you fear Joe Flacco? I hate you? Chat you Flecu? 326 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm with him though about the Eagles, Um, I I 327 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: it's such dark days around here, Like it's crazy. I 328 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: think four years ago, I want we won a super 329 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: Bowl and neither of those quarterbacks are on the team 330 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: right now. It's just a weird time for Philadelphia. And 331 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: again I like the upside of Hurts. I think he 332 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: does have weapons around him. The old line is really good. 333 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: You never know. I just think the values there that 334 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: again on Fandel our friends at Vandal it's one right 335 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: now for him to get m VP, So it sounds crazy. 336 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: He doesn't make any sense right now. It's the same 337 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: thing with Lamar Jackson. You're just looking at someone that's 338 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: high upside that we know they have the ability to 339 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: do and they have the weapons around him to do it. 340 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: So this is simply just a play that I think 341 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: he has the upside. Could he be benched Week six 342 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: for Nick Mullins or Joe Flacco. That's a possibility, but 343 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: it's worth the risk it one. Mike tom Zack, Jim 344 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: Harbaugh cade make nown three other quarterbacks who played for 345 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears that are unworthy of a Sid love 346 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: Man bubble ahead. If I didn't know that these were 347 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: actual people, I would just assume you're making up names 348 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: at this point. It's amazing, right when you think about 349 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: some of these names. I think about Mike tom Zack. Look, 350 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: Jim m Man won a Super Bowl with the Bears 351 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: in and then he kept getting injured, and so Mike 352 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: tom Zach, who was basically an undrafted quarterback out of 353 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: Ohio State, came in and kept playing really really well, 354 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: and so then there was a quarterback controversy, and then 355 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: the Bears eventually traded away McMahon because they loved tom Zach. 356 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: And I remember tom Zach when you he separated his shoulder, 357 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: and my parents owned a They owned clothing store. Simon, 358 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: what are you laughing at? They owned clothing store and 359 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: your tangents. I mean, I don't even get you down 360 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: these paths. Sometimes. They owned clothing stores in the North 361 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: Shore of Chicago, which is like the fancy suburbs of Chicago. 362 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: And Mike tom Zach was once making an appearance from 363 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 1: my parents at their clothing store, and he showed up 364 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: and he had his arm in the slaying and all 365 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and I remember someone came up 366 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: to him and went, hey, Mike, how's it going, and 367 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: slammed him right in the shoulder. And I thought to myself, 368 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: this is this is the luck of the Bears. Is 369 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: Mike tom Zack getting paid five dred bucks to go 370 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: making a parent and some Yahoo who's not even a 371 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: fan comes up and slams him on the shoulder. That's 372 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: what happens. Did you bet against the Bears that weekend? 373 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: That's the real question. I would think I was only 374 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: like thirteen or fourteen at the time. I didn't know 375 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: enough about betting. You know, I wasn't living the degenerate 376 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: life that Simon lived, you know what I mean? Um, 377 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't feel like we talked enough about the Niners. 378 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: You skipped over the Niners and the opportunities there and 379 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: went right into the Eagles, and we talked about just 380 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: how bad the Eagles are. And maybe that was my 381 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: follow up, Is that was the problem? Yeah, Um yeah. 382 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: My My view on the forty and Irons is just 383 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm on the train with everyone else. I'm they 384 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: were they had the worst health luck last year, so 385 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: right there, you're already building back that they're gonna be 386 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: way more healthier this year. I felt like I was 387 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: one of the only people I was really tall talking 388 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: about how Trey Lance. That's why I thought he might 389 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: be going there is he gave me the RG three 390 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: vibes and they just it was one of the things 391 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: where people were really talking about how he coached r 392 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: G three and the Rookie of the Year year, And 393 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: that's why my whole thing was about the tray Lands 394 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, I could see it. He's got 395 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: a running quarterback or justin fields, he's running quarterback and 396 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: now that we're here. It's definitely one of those where 397 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: there I'm thinking they're trying to do the same thing 398 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: that he go Wass did with Bradford. They're hoping there's 399 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: a preseason injury they can play it all cool. They 400 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: say Jimmy and Trey are good right now, that they 401 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: want to move on from Jimmy. They I think that 402 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: they've seen it. They just can't rely on someone that 403 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: can't stay on the field, and they see that they're 404 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: in a really small window here and they need to 405 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: capitalize on that. So I'm right there with him that 406 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: it's an intrigue in QB room. But it's one of 407 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: those where I think they're gonna move on from Jimmy 408 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: and it's just gonna be the tray Land Show. And 409 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: in that division, it's gonna you're gonna have to You're 410 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: gonna have to have some balls that take Trey Lance 411 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: in that division, he literally is going against We're gonna 412 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 1: talk about him too later on Stafford, who I'll lot 413 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: of the guys on the desert. They keep talking about 414 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: staff For m v P to keep talking about the 415 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: Rams Super Bowl futures. That's a team that's getting hyped 416 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: really hard. Then we have the Seahawks Russell Wilson in 417 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: that division, and again it's I'm not I'm down in Arizona, 418 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: but people really like Kyler Murray. So it is tough 419 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: for me to back the forty niners here when I'm 420 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: looking at the division and they could have a rookie 421 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: quarterback starting in that division. I am not a buyer. Literally, 422 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: if I've made I have probably been a third of 423 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: the teams in the NFL on Super Bowl futures. The 424 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: Rams are one of the teams I have not bought. 425 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm not a buyer on Matthew Stafford. I'm not a 426 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: buyer on Matthew Stafford and Sean McVeigh just because he's 427 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: in a new offense too much positivity, Like Sean McVeigh, Oh, 428 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: I'm so happy now all of a sudden, Dude, you 429 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: were part of the decision making that gave Jared Goff 430 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: a massive new contract. Like, come on, You're not a 431 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: miracle worker in this situation. Matthe Stafford is not going 432 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: to change who he is. Don't give me that face. 433 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: I go back, I keep to leave. I'm Colin Cowherd's 434 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: podcast after the trade was made Colin Cowhurd asked him 435 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: what he thought of Matthew Stafford. Keep to Leave's comment was, 436 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: guys are on the league. They're like Matthew Stafford, that's 437 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: what's gonna get you to the super Bowl. I'm not buying. 438 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: Like see, I'm it's gonna be weird here that I 439 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: have to defend him because I I am not the 440 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: biggest Matthew Stafford fan either. I think he's injury prone. 441 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: He's also a guy who just spent his whole career 442 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: in Detroit, one of the worst run organizations in the league. 443 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: And I know you can say whatever you want of them. McVeigh, 444 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: I think he's a genius. I think this guy is 445 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: so far ahead of whatever you can wrap your head around. 446 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: Chat offensively like someone that watches a lot of film. Dude, 447 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: this dude is a genius. Like wait till you see 448 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: Jared Golf in Detroit this upcoming season, then maybe you're 449 00:24:54,880 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 1: gonna start appreciating McVeigh kneecaps. But I I don't know. 450 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: I don't know why they love it so much. I'm 451 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: right there with you. Stafford. To me, he's never done it. 452 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: But I think there maybe they're saying that's a Detroit 453 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: thing and that the Rams they have all the pieces there. 454 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: Literally they beat the Seahawks in the playoffs with a 455 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: one handed quarterback. So I don't know. I think that 456 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: there is some upside to that team. I can see 457 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 1: why the guys are betting them, But I'm right there 458 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: with you. I have not placed any future bets on 459 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: the Ram so far. You can choose one of these 460 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: two coaches to coach your team, Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVeigh. 461 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a little unfair and that like, 462 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: obviously you go with you Shanahan. It's not it's the question, 463 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: it's not you go with you go with Shanahan and chat. 464 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: I see your point. I think obviously you're right. McVeigh 465 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: had a large hand in creating the circumstances in which 466 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: he now must operate. But to be fair, Jared Goff 467 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: is maybe a bottom five starting quarterback in the league, 468 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: and McVeigh maybe it's hubristic, but he at least thinks 469 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: that he has the offensive aptitude as a play caller 470 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: to have a team that competes as long as his 471 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: quarterback is mediocre at worst. And I think that's probably 472 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: the situation with Stafford. Like I don't think Stafford is subpar. 473 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: He's probably mediocre. Maybe he's a little bit better than that. 474 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: I love this idea. I love this idea that coaches 475 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: believe they are so good and they can build such 476 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: amazing systems and processes that at the most competitive levels 477 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: of the most competitive sport, they think, if I get 478 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: a guy who's serviceable, I can get there. Just because 479 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: Trent Dilford did it, just because Brad Johnson was Brad. Yeah, 480 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: Brad Johnson did it all of a sudden like that 481 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: said a tone that the coaches believe. Listen, at the 482 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: end of the day, my job, I'm essentially a GM. 483 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: I gotta fine talent, I gotta fitted into my system. 484 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: I gotta get people in for the right price. Talent wins. 485 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: That's it, I'm telling you, that's all it is. Though 486 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 1: Nick Foles, Joe Flacco, those guys both won Super Bowls, 487 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: none of us sitting here think of them as great quarterbacks. 488 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: They're just right time, right system of the team with 489 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: a ton of talent. So I'm with a lot of 490 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: GM's views that way, that it is all about the 491 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: team around you. But of course, all those want Aaron Rodgers. 492 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: We all want a superstar quarterback, but we know the deal. 493 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: There's only three or four of them every ten years. 494 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: That's just the way the NFL is, Simon. If you're 495 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: looking at quarterbacks, speaking of Matthew Stafford, are you how 496 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: do you gauge what quarterbacks are worth the most against 497 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: this point spread and what quarterbacks are worth the least 498 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: against the point But start with the most. Let Matthew 499 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: for even respond, then we will go to the least. 500 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he knows it's gonna be pretty basic, Like 501 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: you just go through top five quarterbacks. So Mahomes, Rogers, 502 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: when Brees is playing, Tom Brady or Lamar Jackson, these 503 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: all these quarterbacks that we know can put up points, 504 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: they skew it up. It's tough to say how it 505 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: goes with that because it's um. A lot of it 506 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: does go into system and matchup. There's certain quarterbacks that 507 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: there's certain defenses they just don't play well against. And 508 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: it sounds bizarre, but you can go through different teams 509 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: and look at their history, like Patrick Mahomes for some reason, 510 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: he hasn't done great against the Chargers, or he hasn't 511 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: done great against Oakland. When he plays out a division, 512 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: he's great against defenses don't don't see him that often, 513 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: So it is it is different depending on matchups. But 514 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: for me, when people are trying to build out grading um, 515 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, it's really hard. Like say Tom Brady, his 516 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: peak might have been worth ten points to the spread, 517 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: which sounds crazy, but there was a run there from 518 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: oh six toleven where he was just untouchable. I mean 519 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: literally that undefeated season. What was that two thousand seven eight? 520 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: He just was on an incredible run and I honestly 521 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: thought I would never have a quarterback ranked that high. 522 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: And then Aaron Rodgers came on and he was pretty 523 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: pretty much the same in points wise on his little run. 524 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: And with my Homes it's been different. Um, I'll never 525 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: forget that playoff run last year or two years ago. Now. 526 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: I remember I came on your show, Jat I said 527 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: that I had them at minus I think it was 528 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: eleven or ten against the Titans and the line was 529 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: like six and people are freaking out, they go, how 530 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: can you have him minus ten against the Titans. I'm 531 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: just like, this is purely Mahomes. Like Mahomes one of 532 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: my homes is in the game. You add a touchdown 533 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: to that game, and now we're at the point where 534 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: he's probably ten points now Patrick mahomes to the spread. 535 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: So if he's out of the game, Chiefs are gonna 536 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: be ten points less. So I definitely think he's by 537 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: far the number one, and everyone else kind close behind him. 538 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: How this is a question for both of you, because 539 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: I know bookmakers do this. How do you account for, 540 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: speaking of quarterback rooms, the backups? So it could be 541 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: back in the day three or four years ago, Carson 542 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: Wentz was having an MVP season on his own. He 543 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: were seven points to get the points bread But and 544 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: this is actually Jermaine because the when he went out, 545 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles all of a sudden, UM, so many people 546 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: downgraded than they got downgraded quite a bit. But the 547 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: wise guys didn't downgrade Nick Foles from Carson Wentz. So 548 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: that's why they were betting on the Eagles in the 549 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: super Bowl and throughout the playoffs they kept winning. Um. 550 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: How do you account for backups in your math? Freeman? 551 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: If you think about this, you may answer first, If not, 552 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: you made it ferd assignment. Yes, I do think about 553 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: this and Chad. That was actually early on in the 554 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: Days of Action Network the Eagles in the Super Bowl, 555 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: and I remember we had conversations about how Nick Foles 556 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't be discounted nearly to the extent that he was. Uh, 557 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: I have, you know, two different numbers, one for the 558 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: starting quarterback, one for the backup quarterback, and so you 559 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: just do the differential. Most of the backup quarterbacks are 560 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: a slight negative, although I should say, you know Simon 561 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: earlier mentioned the Buffalo Bills. As far as backup quarterbacks go, 562 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: you could do a lot worse than Mitchell Drubisky. So 563 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: I think, like I have Josh Allen as one of 564 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: the top five quarterbacks in the league. By the point spread, 565 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: the drop from Alan to Trubisky, I mean it's it's 566 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: a significant drop, but it's not nearly as significant as 567 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: it would be if we're talking about Aaron Rodgers to 568 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: Jordan's Love, for instance. So Trubisky as a backup, he 569 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: actually elevates the quality of that room. And you just 570 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: have the different numbers, the point spreads for all of 571 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: these different quarterbacks, and uh, you know, Josh Allen, Mitchell 572 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: Trubisky not is bad of a drop off as you 573 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: would maybe expect. Well, that's because you're an idiot. Correct. Uh, yeah, 574 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: that see. The Nick Foles thing is tough because that 575 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: was definitely the spread was skewed towards the Eagles, where 576 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: you're saying, Okay, I know that Nick Foles is a 577 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: downgrade here, but we're talking about home dogs in the playoffs, 578 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: and that's like, that's the only reason I was really 579 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: all in on the Eagles. I love the value of 580 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: them being I think there are three and a half 581 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: a three point dog to the Land at home the 582 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: first game. Then there are three point dog to the Vikings. 583 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: But I've watched that season about a million times. Um, 584 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: nick Foles came in for the Rams, I mean came 585 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: against the Rams when once went down. I think he 586 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: put up a total of six points, like those two 587 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: field goals, or maybe it was a three field goals. 588 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: He then plays Oakland, who was horrible at the time 589 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: and barely one at home, like nineteen to ten or 590 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: something like that. Then he sat. Then he played Atlanta, 591 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: where I don't even think he had a touchdown in 592 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: that game. I think it was literally first playoff game, 593 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: right running touchdown, and then a bunch of field goals. 594 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: We won like sixteen to thirteen. Some trash game the 595 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. We were losing, and then thank god, we 596 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: were playing a backup quarterback in the Vikings. Uh he 597 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: threw a pick six and that's what kind of sparked 598 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: the whole thing. So it is one of those where 599 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of luck, but it's all about situations. Like 600 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: we talked about, the Eagles had one of the best 601 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: teams put together. So that's why people hate on my 602 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: Washington bet Um. I get it. I'm not the biggest 603 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick fan, but I think fits is better than 604 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: I don't think he's the bottom five quarterback in the league. 605 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: I think he's an improvement of what they had last 606 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: year on a one leg at Alex Smith, and we 607 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: have a great defense and a lot of weapons around him. 608 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: So that's again, this is why I'm trying to get 609 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: people to be in on the Washington football team. There's 610 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: just a lot of value in backing a good team 611 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: with good coaching, with a solid quarterback. And that's what 612 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm looking for here. If you're giving me them fifty 613 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: five to one, that's enough value to take on a 614 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: team like that. Right now, it's time for a Lizzo song. 615 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: Break games anybody with me? I wanted us to talk 616 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: about Kellen Mond. I mean, what what are you wanting? 617 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: If people could see the way you're looking at me 618 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: right now, Freedman, that is the way you were looking 619 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: at me, is how I feel about you right now. 620 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you the way I always look at you, Chad, 621 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: I know, and that's how I always feel about you. 622 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: It's a mirror. I'm reflective. At least, at least there's 623 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: good mutuality. Yeah, this change, Simon, give me your I 624 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: want to get to the best sort of quarterback best 625 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: for week one on fandal, but I do want you 626 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: to give me your quarterbacks who are worth the least 627 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: amount of points against the points Bret oh Man, I 628 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: definitely would have to go through everything because it's still 629 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: not a pent. Sure who are the starters are going 630 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: to be? But off the top of my head, um Man, 631 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: because there are some there's just some pure trash gonna 632 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: be starting week one, like if any Dalton's the bepening 633 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: day quarterback for the Bears, pure trash, Like I just 634 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: I just don't believe that. I really do think it's 635 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: gonna be fields because the upside just so high there. 636 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: There's there's literally no benefit to sitting fields. What is 637 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: he gonna learn watching any Dalton? I just don't see 638 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: any Dalton showing him in the way. So that my 639 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: five bottom I guess. I guess my worst quarterback, my 640 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: worst starter. It pains me to say, but it's gotta 641 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: be Jared golf I mean, Jared golf Is is terrible. 642 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: Um the next one up, it's probably gonna be Zack Wilson. 643 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: I'm just not drinking the cool like a lot of 644 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: other people. I like these other rookies better than him, 645 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: Like even the guy you just talked about, mind on 646 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: the Vikings. I like him better than Zach Wilson, which 647 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but it's all about situations at this point, 648 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: Like I like what Minnesota has around him compared to 649 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: what the Jets have around him. Um Man, I hate 650 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: to do it because I'm high on him, but Sam 651 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: Donald Man, we just haven't seen it. He has to 652 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: prove it for me to believe it. He He is 653 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: one of my lowest ranked quarterbacks every year, just against 654 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: the spread. I just have no faith with him, Like 655 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: he's been a negative towards the Jets spread number ever 656 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: since he's coming to the league. So taking it, take 657 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: it as you one. I know people are gonna complain, say, 658 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: how is that his fault? But it kind of is 659 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: next up my own Eagles. Jalen Hurts, I do not believe, 660 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: even though I just told you about him one, I 661 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: actually do not believe in Jalen Hurts. I'm way down 662 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: on him in my rankings. And there's a couple of 663 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: guys I could put here um just on the fact 664 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: that they're new to the league. But I mean, it's 665 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: it's really as hard to say, but I guess I'll 666 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: go um Trevor Lawrence, even though I really had nothing 667 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: behind it. It's all the simple fact that he's just 668 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback with a rookie head coach on a 669 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: team that's still in rebuild mode. So I again, if 670 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: you're Ben, Trevor Lawrence went Rookie of the the Year, I 671 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: can't fault to you. He he is really good, but 672 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: just against the spread, I just have faith in him. 673 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: Yet I had to see him playing that NFL first Freed. Mean, 674 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: you are our draft expert, Kellen mind Zack Wilson. I mean, 675 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: you have to go with Zach Wilson based on draft 676 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: capital alone. But Kellen Mond is really intriguing. He was 677 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: a highly recruited guy who has the dual threat capability, 678 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: and so in that capacity, he does make me think 679 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: a lot of Jalen Hurts. Uh like a lesser not 680 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, but like Jalen Hurts really is the comp 681 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: for him in terms of what he potentially could do 682 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 1: if he is able to get the starting job because 683 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 1: of injury or because Kirk Cousins just disappoints. Uh So 684 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: Kellen Mond, I mean, especially in dynasty leagues. I'm I'm 685 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: very interested in him for fantasy. Talking about the spread 686 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: for some of these quarterbacks. Agree on Sam Donald, I 687 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: think he's my worst rated starter at this point. Um, 688 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Jared Goff is in that bottom five, four me, 689 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: Drew Lock is in the group. Of course, there's the 690 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: question as to whether he even starts in a week 691 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: one and Teddy starting, But I'm with him on the 692 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: Drew Lock. I just I think Teddy will be the 693 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: starter week one. Yeah. So again there's a question is 694 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: whether Drew Lock even starts in a week one, and 695 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: you look at Houston you know Tyrod Taylor. I mean 696 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: he's slated in thirty to start in a week one, 697 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: but you know it potentially could be Davis Mills. Uh, 698 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, a rookie who started very few games in 699 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: college for Stanford. So whichever one of those guys ends 700 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: up starting, it's a massive negative I think against the 701 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: point spread for the Houston Texans. Alright, Simon, we got 702 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: Van duels Um week one quarterback props for lack of 703 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: a better term, give me two or three y're looking 704 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: at right now, Well, there's only four, so I'll give 705 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: you all four just for fun. No, I just want 706 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: two or three, damn it. Alright, alright, thank me, alright, 707 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: give me four. Well would be so fast, I don't 708 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: even notice. Alright. For Denver right now, they have Drew 709 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: lock plus one forty uh or Teddy Bridgewater plus. I 710 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: just told you I think it's gonna be Teddy's job. 711 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: I just think that once again into camp, Teddy is 712 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: gonna be so much better than him. But it's not 713 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: one of my best bets. I have another one I 714 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: like better. But if you're gonna bet on this side, 715 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: I like the Teddy side. Okay, moving on new England Patriots. 716 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: Mac Jones is plus one seventy, very intriguing, but I 717 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: would still take Cam their minus five. I just think 718 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: Bill Bill likes to team me has there. It's a 719 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 1: veteran team. They have all these guys back on the defense, 720 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: all these new free agents. I think they're gonna start 721 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: the O with Camps. So for Week one, I like 722 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: Cam minus and this one is my favorite bet. For 723 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: some reason, people are all in on Winston starting for 724 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 1: the Saints. He is up to minus two eighty now 725 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: to start for the Saints. I'm thought that a love 726 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: of tysom Hill, but I just think he's gonna be 727 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,240 Speaker 1: better in practice and he's gonna do soft that Sean 728 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: Payton just by chance might start him just for week 729 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: one for the first series, and that's all we need, Chad. 730 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: All we need is I got to start the first 731 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: snap in the first series. So at plus two twenty, 732 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: who I really like that value For the Saints, all 733 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: we need is Winston to have a terrible, terrible preseason 734 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: and he's back on the bench. So for me at 735 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: that value plus two twenty, I love the value there. 736 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: And de ending on the forty Niners again, I told you, 737 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: I think Jimmy is getting traded. So my two bets 738 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: I've done so far, I bet on Trey Lance plus 739 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 1: two forty and I bet on Taysom Hill plus two 740 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: twenty start for the Saints. But I I really sharp 741 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: group came in and they bet on uh Taysom Hill 742 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: at plus three days. Odds have dropped down now to 743 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 1: plus two twenty. Wow. Sharp, I love when you're when 744 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: you're like talking about the sharps, betting on like individual 745 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,479 Speaker 1: quarterback who will start props. That's what you get when 746 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 1: you come to the favorite pot sharp information. Uh. The 747 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: only reason I know that is because, like again, I 748 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: talked to these guys. So sometimes I'm gonna give out 749 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 1: bets on you. They're not even my bets. These are 750 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: from other people that have done the work. Like we 751 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: talked in the Super Bowl that one and a half 752 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: field goals in the first first half. That wasn't my bet. 753 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,479 Speaker 1: That was someone else's bet. But I bet big money 754 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: on it because I trust those people's opinions. So this 755 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: is kind of the same thing where I'm just getting information, 756 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm relying it to you guys. I have no idea 757 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: anything that's going on the forty niners. But if I'm 758 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: getting good information that that they are trying to move 759 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: Jamie and that's the plan is to move in before 760 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 1: the season, how can you not take that? Plus two 761 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: forty on Trey Lance to start Week one? I love it, Fream, 762 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: What do you think of that? I love both of those. 763 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,479 Speaker 1: And I actually did take Taysom Hill in a higher 764 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: number than this. I think I got it around two eighty. 765 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: But I think the Taysom Hill Jamis Winston situation is 766 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 1: much closer to fifty than people think. And the exact 767 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 1: same thing with Garoppolo and Garoppolo and Lance so easily. 768 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm on the side of plus two forty with Lance, 769 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,479 Speaker 1: plus two twenty with Taysom Hill. I really like both 770 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: of those bets. All right, there you have of folks. 771 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: We have gone through quarterback rankings. We have gone through 772 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 1: quarterback room rankings, we have gone through quarterback against the 773 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 1: Spread rankings, we have gone through Chicago Bear quarterback rankings, 774 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: and we have gone through the four best who will 775 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: start props at FanDuel. Right now, that is a full 776 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: service podcast for you from the favorites here on the 777 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: Volume Network. I am Chad Milman. I was joined by 778 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: Simon Hunter by Matthew Friedman. Download us from Apple, podcasts 779 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: from Spotify, wherever did you get your podcasts? Until we 780 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: see you on Thursday for the Thunderdome. Love You,