WEBVTT - Edvin Ryding

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with

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<v Speaker 1>me Tommy Didario. Today's guest is the super talented Edvn

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<v Speaker 1>Riding Now. Edvn is one of the biggest breakout stars

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<v Speaker 1>on Netflix, starring in Young Royals, which is a Swedish

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<v Speaker 1>teen drama romance set at a fictional elite boarding school.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the show primarily follows Edvin, who plays Prince Wilhelm

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<v Speaker 1>of Sweden and his romance with fellow male student Simon

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<v Speaker 1>Erickson and all the drama which results, and let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, there is a lot of it. Van grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in Stockholm, Sweden, and started acting at five years

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<v Speaker 1>old and a humble brag on his behalf. He became

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<v Speaker 1>a Forbes thirty Under thirty lister in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not an easy title to obtain, and he

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<v Speaker 1>managed to graduate high school during his rise to superstardom.

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<v Speaker 1>He is now working on several different projects, including a

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<v Speaker 1>third and final season of Young Royals. I know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we going to do without the show? Edvn

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<v Speaker 1>is such a deep and soulful guy, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to really enjoy hearing a different side

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<v Speaker 1>to him. Throughout this conversation. So let's see if today

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<v Speaker 1>we can get Edvan to say something that he's never

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<v Speaker 1>said before. Van, my friend, it is so good to

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<v Speaker 1>be hanging out with you. How are you today?

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<v Speaker 2>Likewise? I'm good. I'm good. It's been a beautiful day

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<v Speaker 2>here in Stockholm. I'm happy spring is coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I love that. I'm great, man, I'm great. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I should be kind of fanning myself because

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<v Speaker 1>am I talking to who BuzzFeed said is the next

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<v Speaker 1>Meryl Street, Viola Davis and Denzel Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about that. We'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>It's up to me, you know, Yeah, yeah, it's up

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<v Speaker 1>to you. But what an honor? I read that article

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<v Speaker 1>not too long ago, and it was like, that's my man,

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<v Speaker 1>Good for you, Good for you. That must feel good.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh yeah, it's been. Uh, it's always like it's a

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<v Speaker 2>big honor. Obviously, you you get a little frightened at first,

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<v Speaker 2>but then you like take a breather and then you

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<v Speaker 2>realize it's truly is like a huge honor and it's

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<v Speaker 2>something great to build from, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, well, well deserved. You are somebody who means

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<v Speaker 1>so much to so many and and it's largely due

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<v Speaker 1>to the show Young Royals, which came out and we're

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<v Speaker 1>in two seasons now. This show has taken the world

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<v Speaker 1>by storm. It is one of the hottest shows on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 1>People just love it to death so much. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to bring it back for a minute. What was it

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<v Speaker 1>that made you say when you read that initial script

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<v Speaker 1>that pilot man, I have to be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>this series.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, it's it's It was actually quite funny

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<v Speaker 2>because I was in like a weird period in my

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<v Speaker 2>life where, you know, COVID had just hit the world

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months earlier, and I was like at

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<v Speaker 2>a stalemate, you know. I mean, it's weird for me

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<v Speaker 2>as twenty year old to say that, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>it was. I was feeling pretty like restless, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I got this call for this this audition, and and

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<v Speaker 2>it just it felt great, Like it was truly just intuition.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, if we're going to break it down, I

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<v Speaker 2>read the script and I was like, yeah, this is sure,

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<v Speaker 2>it's yeah. You know, it was fun because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard my my coworker Omar talk about it, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, yeah, this is this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a hit, you know, and I read it and

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, we can, we can do something out

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<v Speaker 2>of this. I really think with the teamwork that we

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<v Speaker 2>had during season one and season two, I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>like the major, major thing that made it what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think also that's like what made me want

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<v Speaker 2>to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that it's a queer love story, man. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I grew up, I'm a millennial and I never

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<v Speaker 1>had anything like this to watch. I mean, we had

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<v Speaker 1>Will and Grace, but it was a very different type

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<v Speaker 1>of show and it was great yea, And I love

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<v Speaker 1>the representation there, but it wasn't this this love story.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, do you feel ever that responsibility of being

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<v Speaker 1>in a show that that means so much to so

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<v Speaker 1>many Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, like it's it's it's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>like it's it's huge for me, and it is a

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<v Speaker 2>big responsibility. Like all these people writing and saying like

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<v Speaker 2>they feel seen by this show and by by our

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<v Speaker 2>portrayal of these characters. It's it's massive, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I like I feel seen by them as well. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's a very I haven't spoken about it too much,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, or maybe I've just been been bad at

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<v Speaker 2>articulating it, but it truly is like a give and

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<v Speaker 2>take situation with with us in the cast and our audience,

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<v Speaker 2>like we they make us feel seen, and apparently we

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<v Speaker 2>make them feel seen. And it's like, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a big responsibility for us because we're like in the

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<v Speaker 2>spotlight and we want to take care of these people

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<v Speaker 2>as much as possible, and it's a movement and that

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<v Speaker 2>comes with the responsibility, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, one hundred percent. I think that's such an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>way to look at it. You know, yes, the audience

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<v Speaker 1>feels seen through your work, but you feel seen through them.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to me more about that. That's such an interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>interesting way to put it that I really haven't heard before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, well, I've been thinking about it these

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<v Speaker 2>last few weeks, Like we're in early early early prep

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<v Speaker 2>for season three right now, and I'm starting to like

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<v Speaker 2>slowly growing into Wilhelm again, and I've been thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's we have such an intelligent audience. They're like

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<v Speaker 2>they're like on a high level intelligent people, Like they

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<v Speaker 2>can analyze the show, and they can analyze not just

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<v Speaker 2>our story, like I see them interacting with other shows

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<v Speaker 2>as well, like art stopper Wednesday, and the way they're

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<v Speaker 2>like dissecting these stories and finding like symbolism, it's it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>And some of these things are like just things that

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<v Speaker 2>we as actors are maybe you know, I can only

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<v Speaker 2>speak for myself, but the things that we like come

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<v Speaker 2>we figure it out in the moment. We just do

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<v Speaker 2>something and we feel like, yeah, yeah, that's that's that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense because Willielm's this person and he would do that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you just do it and and they really

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<v Speaker 2>they pick up on that and it's beautiful. Like they

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<v Speaker 2>they I think they see our craftsmanship and that's huge

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<v Speaker 2>for me as an actor. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's a really special relationship to have with

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<v Speaker 1>the viewers of a show that you're creating and you're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing to life. I think that's super super cool. And

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<v Speaker 1>obviously everybody knows that you and Omar are thickest thieves,

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<v Speaker 1>super tight. He of course plays Simon in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Why was he the right guy to play opposite you?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What made him that guy?

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<v Speaker 2>He's many things, but mainly is a very brave person.

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<v Speaker 2>And he is brave and like almost every aspect of

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<v Speaker 2>his life like he's very he's daring. He wants to

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<v Speaker 2>do stuff and he wants to try them and and

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<v Speaker 2>that's like very fundamental for an actor to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to be brave, you know. And I felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>saw that the first audition we did together, because I

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<v Speaker 2>was it was like his first, but it was my

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it wasn't his first, maybe it was his second

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<v Speaker 2>or something. I had done a few at least, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And and I was like, in the moment, I was

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<v Speaker 2>trying this improvising stuff, and he just followed, and he

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<v Speaker 2>like he pushed it in another direction, like we were

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<v Speaker 2>just playing with each other, playing with these emotions, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not easy to do that if you've never like

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<v Speaker 2>properly acted before. And yeah, I really really admire that

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<v Speaker 2>about him.

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<v Speaker 1>And you didn't know him during those early auditions, right, No.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I knew who he was. He was. He's like

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<v Speaker 2>he's been a celebrity in swite him for a few years.

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<v Speaker 2>And I went to see him. It's ten years ago, now,

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<v Speaker 2>that's crazy. Yeah, I went to see him when he

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<v Speaker 2>opened for Justin Bieber in Stockholm twenty thirteen, and his

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<v Speaker 2>like musical career was huge from there, you know, up

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<v Speaker 2>until Royals and it's only been growing. So I knew

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<v Speaker 2>who he was, but I didn't know him personally, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you establish such an insane bond and

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<v Speaker 1>develop that chemistry on screen? Because you guys together, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so believable. We as an audience believe you are

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<v Speaker 1>truly in love, and that's not always easy to achieve,

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<v Speaker 1>as in my opinion as a viewer, when I watch

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<v Speaker 1>certain shows, it's you know, kind of like, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're doing the job of having to be in love.

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<v Speaker 1>But I watch the two of you, and I say, no,

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<v Speaker 1>these these guys look like they are in love. So

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<v Speaker 1>how did you form that bond? Was it a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>easy thing to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Firstly, thank you, that's very kind of words. It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't easy, you know. I mean it's never easy

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<v Speaker 2>to or sometimes it is, you know. With Omer, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was actually because like I said, he's brave.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to consider myself as a brave person's file

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<v Speaker 2>and we kind of had to. Like it was, it

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<v Speaker 2>was like a force of nature in some way because

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's very open and brave, and I'm I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very like intrigued by those types of people, and we

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<v Speaker 2>were working all of these long hours and day in

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<v Speaker 2>and day out, and we were doing these beautiful scenes,

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<v Speaker 2>and we had our director who is like our directors

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<v Speaker 2>they were they were really like helping us out with

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<v Speaker 2>understanding these scenes in this relationship, and that I think

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<v Speaker 2>that created like a trust between me and Omar. And

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<v Speaker 2>trust is like I usually say, like the two most

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<v Speaker 2>important things when it comes to working in the film industry,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe three things. It's like it's trust, it's communication,

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<v Speaker 2>and its respect. And I think me and Omar found

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<v Speaker 2>out with each other pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the development of your character in the two seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine for you it must be a super fun

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<v Speaker 1>role to play. What you love about playing the Prince?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? Uh? I love It's very challenging, honestly. I mean, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's grown a lot since the first episode of

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<v Speaker 2>season one. Uh. And he's it's been like a rollercoaster

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<v Speaker 2>so far. Uh. And that's very challenging. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>mainly that's like the funniest, the most fun part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's like he's so sensitive and it's always like

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<v Speaker 2>I you feel like it's rewarding for you as a person.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's rewarding for me, like as a

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<v Speaker 2>person to portray Willham, because like he's so sensitive and

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<v Speaker 2>emotional in a very uh in a very good way.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's not it's very anti macho thing, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's important to portray as well, and and for

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<v Speaker 2>me as an actor to be able to like go

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<v Speaker 2>into those that kind of lifestyle and and places. It's

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<v Speaker 2>rewarding for me as a person. You know, I learn

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<v Speaker 2>a lot by working with young royals, and that's great, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not it's not usually like that, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, well, I think it takes a special

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<v Speaker 1>kind of person too to be aware with the environment

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<v Speaker 1>and the work that they're doing to actually learn something

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<v Speaker 1>from it. Right, It's not like you go to work,

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<v Speaker 1>you put on this character and you leave and you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like that's it. Like you want to grow,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to learn, you want to be somebody who's

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<v Speaker 1>continually improving yourself. At least that's what I gather from

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<v Speaker 1>our conversations, which I think is a really unique trait

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<v Speaker 1>and quality to have in this industry. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>season two, this character he goes through some things, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've commented on how you've kind of grappled

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<v Speaker 1>with how you view your character in season two. Talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me more about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this created kind of created quite a stir on

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<v Speaker 2>the social media when I said this, at least with

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<v Speaker 2>our audience, because they defend Wilhelm really, you know, really

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<v Speaker 2>really much. And what I've been like when I say

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<v Speaker 2>I I had a hard time understanding, Well, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like on a very like fundamental, but also it was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of abstract because I thought he was very selfish

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the time in season two. He was

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<v Speaker 2>mainly thinking about himself and his own problems. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about h Simon and his problems, and and that's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's frustrating reading that, you know, seeing that

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<v Speaker 2>character in front of you is like, I wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be friends with that kind of person. I think

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<v Speaker 2>people can change, you know, but it's a very it's

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<v Speaker 2>a very pessimistic way of life, I think. And that

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<v Speaker 2>was a hard time like understanding, but then I had

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<v Speaker 2>long conversations with our writers and directors and eventually I

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<v Speaker 2>figured it out. I think I don't know if our

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<v Speaker 2>audience know what I mean yet, but they will one day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, I think that's cool that you get to

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<v Speaker 1>explore different sides to this character, right, Like that must

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<v Speaker 1>be fun for you.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, you know, it's always funnier. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people are so like complex. You know, we have different

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<v Speaker 2>different ways of talking when we're with different people, we

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<v Speaker 2>have different ways of moving, we laugh different with different people,

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<v Speaker 2>and just you know, that's like the outer layer, imagine

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<v Speaker 2>like the inner layer. It's way more complex, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>like reality. So portraying that is speaking of like rewarding

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<v Speaker 2>for me as a person. That's also like I learn

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<v Speaker 2>a lot by doing that because that's what it is

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<v Speaker 2>in real life, Like how does Wilhelm control these feelings?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty badly? Sometimes maybe I should do that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, that's right on. I think it's an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting study on human behavior when you kind of drive

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<v Speaker 1>into a character like that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it is, it is. I find that

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<v Speaker 2>so interesting, Like the human mind, it's powerful and scary,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's beautiful at the same time. So I tried

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<v Speaker 2>to everything I know about psychology and behavioral science. I

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<v Speaker 2>try to put into my character work.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you can look back at your work over

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<v Speaker 1>the last two seasons. Is there a scene or a

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<v Speaker 1>moment that was so meaningful for you wish you could

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<v Speaker 1>relive it and and do it all over again because

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<v Speaker 1>you so enjoyed doing it. And on the flip side,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a scene that you wish Hm, I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I had another shot at that. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>could trade a little differently.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I enjoyed most of my time. I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>which scene I like the most, not which one I

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<v Speaker 2>hate the most. No, but I think the football field

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<v Speaker 2>scene or soccer sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, depending on where you live.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that scene in season one for me as an

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<v Speaker 2>actor was very fun to do. We were improvising a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had a really nice collaboration with our director

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<v Speaker 2>for that episode and with Omar, and I think, I, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was really that was fun. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do it again. I want to like be

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<v Speaker 2>in that moment watching myself doing it, do you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? I don't think I could do that

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<v Speaker 2>exact same thing again because it's so it was so

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<v Speaker 2>like intuitive, But it was fun to do. And if

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<v Speaker 2>I get another shot at one scene, probably some scenes

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<v Speaker 2>in like the early early stages of season one, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a weird time coming into the first season, and

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<v Speaker 2>some of those scenes were pretty difficult to grasp Aron

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<v Speaker 2>and we had like issues with postponing these scenes because

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<v Speaker 2>of COVID and stuff. So if I have to say one,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the scene in episode one of season one, there's

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<v Speaker 2>the scene in the car where Wilhelm he finds out

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<v Speaker 2>that he's going to start at Hemascat at the school

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<v Speaker 2>and he's really pissed at this Royal Family staff member.

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<v Speaker 2>If I have to pick one scene, I'd picked that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Very cool. I always find it so fascinating the inner

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<v Speaker 1>workings of artists brains and how they view their work.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you for sharing that. I think it's so

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<v Speaker 1>cool that you started as the Swedish actor and then

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<v Speaker 1>you hit this international level of fame with the show,

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<v Speaker 1>even appearing on Jimmy Kimmel here in New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just so cool. So what are you the

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<v Speaker 1>most proud of with your work on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm the most proud of like the way

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<v Speaker 2>we've we've reached out to the audience, Like the way

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<v Speaker 2>we've connected with our audience. I've been saying this now

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<v Speaker 2>for two years soon, but it's so majestic, it's monumental.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like for me, it's like it's such a feeling

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<v Speaker 2>of comfort in my chest. Like the relationship that this

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<v Speaker 2>story has with its audience is it's so beautiful and

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<v Speaker 2>it's so like it's it's real, you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>movement and you can dissect the whole period down to

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<v Speaker 2>different Obviously, I'm super, super proud to have been on FOUL.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we honestly, I think we were the first

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<v Speaker 2>we're the first Sweetist show to be promoted on Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>Fallon and that's huge, you know. But but there's like

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<v Speaker 2>so much more to it than just like being able

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<v Speaker 2>to travel the world with this show and meeting all

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<v Speaker 2>these people. I think that that relationship with the audience

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<v Speaker 2>is Yeah, it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. I see a lot of the comments

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding the show and how this show has helped so

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<v Speaker 1>many people. You know, I often wonder if I had

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<v Speaker 1>a show like this, I'm thirty, teld them, I'm thirty seven. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if I had a show like.

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<v Speaker 2>You're Looking Day over twenty five, you don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>To you don't have to lie. I mean, I appreciate that,

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<v Speaker 1>but thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I wondered if I would have maybe come out earlier

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<v Speaker 1>if the show existed. You know, I came out what's

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<v Speaker 1>considered late now. I mean, I know there's no right time,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was in sen year of college, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's so great. So many people are coming out

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<v Speaker 1>earlier and earlier and on their own time, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just wonder if I had something like this, would that

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<v Speaker 1>have helped me? And I think it probably does help

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. You know, it's powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is like that's that I've really moved by that. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>But also like it's this, this is like it's all

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<v Speaker 2>part of like a big process. I really believe that

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<v Speaker 2>at one point there will be no like coming out

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<v Speaker 2>late or coming out early or anything like that, because

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<v Speaker 2>people won't have to come out because it won't matter,

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<v Speaker 2>Like for real, it won't matter who you love or

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<v Speaker 2>what your pronouns are or what you identify as. It's

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's what we're working against, and Royals Young

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<v Speaker 2>Roles is evidently it's a part of that process, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm super proud to be part of that little puzzle piece.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's important, and I think what a refreshing world.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be when we don't have to do any

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<v Speaker 1>of those things you just talked to me. I know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready for that time. And in fact, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a tweet, you know, and I believe your friend

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<v Speaker 1>Kit Connor kind of got publicly, you know, out it

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to call that as as bisexual, and

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<v Speaker 1>he came out and made a steament and you said,

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<v Speaker 1>my heart was out to you, right are you? Along

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<v Speaker 1>those lines? You said your heart you feel for him,

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<v Speaker 1>because no one should be put in that position, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we should all just we shouldn't have to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, it was that was painful to watch, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And kid's such a sweet guy too. I mean, no

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<v Speaker 2>one deserves that. But at this age too, I mean

0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:30.600
<v Speaker 2>we're the same age and and and to be like

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<v Speaker 2>forced into two coming out or like proclaiming who you are,

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<v Speaker 2>like you you owe people that. It's it's such a

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<v Speaker 2>weird way of looking at the world and fellow human beings. Yeah, weird,

0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:47.600
<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's I think showing your support was a

0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:53.240
<v Speaker 1>really amazing thing to do. And I I, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it speaks huge, huge volumes of who you

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<v Speaker 1>are as a person. And I just thought that was cool,

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<v Speaker 1>So I agree with you. I think when there's a

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<v Speaker 1>time where we don't have to do that, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be awesome. Speaking of Kit Connor, who of course

0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:07.919
<v Speaker 1>stars in Heart Stopper, there's a lot of buzz and

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<v Speaker 1>shatter around the internet. I don't know if you said

0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:14.520
<v Speaker 1>something in an interview once, oh yeah, but everyone's wanting

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of crossover. So for everyone who's listening, if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't seen Heart Stopper, it's another amazing queer love

0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:23.440
<v Speaker 1>story on Netflix. Season one was brilliant. I believe season

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<v Speaker 1>two wrapped and that should be coming out hopefully soon,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people want to see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Kit and Joe the two actors in the show, and

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<v Speaker 1>and you and Omar do some sort of crossover. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's a double date in one of the shows. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I mean, come on, what's happening? Are we

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You know, we said that in an

0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:48.879
<v Speaker 2>interview a couple of months ago, and it created was

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<v Speaker 2>been mayhem afterwards. I don't think, like I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>like do something with Kid and Joe and me and Omar.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we should do it in character though,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean, we share a lot of audience members

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<v Speaker 2>the two shows, and I think we should we should. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to, you know, we should do something. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if a crossover is the right way to go,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, it would be fun to give something

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<v Speaker 2>to the to the audience. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you do a crossover, I know season three

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<v Speaker 1>is sadly the final season of your show, which is

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<v Speaker 1>breaking hearts across the world. So maybe maybe you and

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<v Speaker 1>Omar are foreign transplant students in their school and then

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to be part of their next season.

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<v Speaker 1>They're done. I'm a writer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well there you have it. Wow, perfect down right now.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go, There we go. I'll call my people,

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<v Speaker 1>will call your people.

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<v Speaker 2>We got this perfect. Yeah, we'll sort it out. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So you said that you're getting ready for season three.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything you can share about the season?

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<v Speaker 2>Not story wise, it's but it's it's like it's the

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<v Speaker 2>final season we've we've like, it's it's out there in

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<v Speaker 2>the open. But I gotta say, like, the beautiful part

0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 2>of this art form is that we we produce something

0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:22.359
<v Speaker 2>and we portray these characters that amazing people have written

0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:24.959
<v Speaker 2>and were directed by great people, and there's like hundreds

0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:27.760
<v Speaker 2>of people working with this and we we like construct

0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:30.439
<v Speaker 2>this this art piece, and then we give it to

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<v Speaker 2>the audience. So even though like season three is the

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 2>last last season that will produce, like the story, the characters,

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 2>the world that these characters live in, they belong to

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:45.680
<v Speaker 2>the audience, uh, and they will forever and ever. And

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<v Speaker 2>so hopefully that calms some people down, because I want

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 2>them to know, like, these these characters are them. You know,

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:57.760
<v Speaker 2>they can they can write these these beautiful I've recently

0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 2>gotten a bit into these fan fictions that they've been writing,

0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 2>and it's quite interesting the creative ways they they place

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 2>these characters with each other. But that's like, that's the

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 2>future for Young Voice. I think it belongs to the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. And I know, I know you might know,

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:19.959
<v Speaker 1>but you can't say anything. But do you hope that

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:24.399
<v Speaker 1>your character Prince Wilhelm and Simon are endgame? Do you

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:25.600
<v Speaker 1>hope that they end up together?

0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Of course, like I believe in love, but I you know,

0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, well I'm rooting for I'm a huge

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>lover of love. I've I've been with my husband now

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 1>for eight years. Congratulations, thank you, thank you. I I

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 1>just I love love So I know they're characters, but

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<v Speaker 1>I am personally rooting for the two of you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good, that's nice. I think. I think you're not alone.

0:24:56.480 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I think, but just just a hunch. No, we'll see.

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I we were still a few months away

0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 2>from from shooting, and anything can still happen with the story.

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 2>So so and I think either way, they've gotten so

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 2>much from each other, these two characters, they've learned so much.

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, like Wilhelm's he's done such a journey

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<v Speaker 2>since season one, episode one, and that journey is continuing

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 2>in the third season. So and the same with with Simon.

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<v Speaker 2>It's they're like developing and learning from each other in

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<v Speaker 2>a very beautiful way. So in a way, they will

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<v Speaker 2>always be endgame, you know, even if they don't end

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<v Speaker 2>up together. Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. I agree. I think

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>you're I think you're colely trying to say. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to give away any spoilers, but they'll always be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of their life, each other's lives. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened. I see the game you're playing with me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all good. I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>The media train, you know, I'm good at this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's well. We can't wait for the new season.

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:13.439
<v Speaker 1>I know you're you're going to get to work on it.

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<v Speaker 1>But who knows, maybe even by the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see it, right, we'll see you know. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>in charge of setting the dates for the premieres at Netflix.

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 2>You have to You'll have to talk to someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we've talked a lot about the show and

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<v Speaker 1>the impact it's had on on the audience, and how

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:44.160
<v Speaker 1>also you feel so connected to the audience. But you know, edvond,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder with the show like this, where there's so

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>much noise surrounding it. And I don't mean noise negatively.

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just as noise. There's a lot of conversation,

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of chatter, there's a lot of attention. Right,

0:26:55.760 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a show that people constantly are are talking about.

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Do you, as Edvan ever feel like it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>little too loud? Is it? Is it ever too much

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 1>for you? And how do you deal with that as

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<v Speaker 1>as a human.

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:19.880
<v Speaker 2>The honest answer is yes, obviously, I mean, it can

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 2>be too much. And I think my my bar is

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 2>pretty low when it comes to dealing with stuff, whether

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 2>it's positive or negative. You know, it affects me in

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:36.439
<v Speaker 2>different ways. Uh, And I've taken my fair share of

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 2>breaks from social media. I think that's like, right now,

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:44.679
<v Speaker 2>that's my main, my main way of dealing with it.

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's it's it's fun too, Like I'm

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.199
<v Speaker 2>super grateful that I'm in this position and that we

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:57.640
<v Speaker 2>have this audience. But yeah, it can Yeah, it can

0:27:57.680 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 2>be too much sometimes.

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's anything that kind of

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.199
<v Speaker 1>gives you this widespread attention can can take take a

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>toll on you a bit, right. And I know you've

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 1>talked about how your character explores his journey with his

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>anxiety and his mental health, and I know you're a

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>big proponent of putting a spotlight on the importance of

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 1>mental health and taking care of yourself. What is your

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 1>journey personally been like with mental health.

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, I've I've I've struggled with it at times, and

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I've tried to Like my way of dealing with it

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 2>is through education, like learning about it. I studied behavioral

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 2>science in high school. Partially because I think it's it's

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 2>a great ass to have as an actor, but also

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 2>like as a human being, understanding how our brains and

0:28:53.520 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 2>our psych works. And I've also realized like therapy is

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>like the best thing ever and the good thing about it.

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 2>And I really want to say this because it took

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 2>some time for me to realize it. But the thing

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 2>with therapy is that it's proactive, like you're working to

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 2>prevent future disasters, if you'd like to call them that,

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 2>or like you're learning how to deal with future thoughts

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 2>and future emotions because you get to know yourself and

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 2>you get to know where your boundaries are. And that's great.

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm in therapy now and it's the best

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 2>thing ever. I feel better than ever.

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, and that's what's important. I think there is

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>still a stigma around it. And yeah, I went for

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the first time over the holidays actually and really no, yeah, yeah,

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I just had to sort through some stuff. And yeah,

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 1>even though I'm such a proponent for mental health, it

0:29:57.080 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>still took me thirty seven years to make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And my my therapist, she said, you bathed your body,

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't you bathe your mind? And I thought that

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>was so cool.

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's good. Yeah, you know, that's good.

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I think being good to yourself is so

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>important and thank you for opening up about that. The

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>more people that I can do that, especially in the spotlight,

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>the better. So that's that's truly, truly important. You said

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>a quote about the show that I thought was really interesting,

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>and I want I want to talk more about this

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>quote and that quinto It's not bad, it's it's really

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>really cool. Actually, you said sexuality is not the focal

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>point of the show, which I think is a very

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>important message to tell. Now, maybe somebody who watches a

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>show or catches a few, you know, of the episodes,

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>or reads about it might think, well, that's not true.

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>It's about two men who are in a love romantic

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>story and it's about the relationship, so it's very much

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>about sexuality. What would you say to that and talk

0:30:58.240 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 1>to me more about your quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I totally understand that perspective, but I just disagree

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 2>because the thing is, these people were telling a story

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 2>about human beings and human beings interacting with each other,

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 2>and they come from different like, they come from different

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 2>parts of society and different places in the like social hierarchy. Uh,

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 2>and that's the issue that they faced, the the like

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 2>the label of their sexuality or or you know, their

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 2>pronouns or whatever it may be. That's never the issue

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 2>for these characters. It's like where it's the it's the

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 2>social issues around them, you know, and expectations and tradition.

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 2>That's like, that's their problems they're facing, and so therefore

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 2>it's not about sexuality. It's about you know, these it's

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 2>about a friend's coming from very traditional from a very

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 2>traditional background and very like conservative traditions and stuff, and

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 2>how he deals with that while he's in love. You know,

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 2>people fall in love with their young, no matter if

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a boy or girl or whatever, you know.

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's interesting because it kind of goes

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>back to your point earlier of one day hoping that

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>there's no coming out and there's no focus on pronouns

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's just a part of life, right.

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I understand where we're at now as

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 2>a society, and we need to like we need to

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 2>embrace that and do what we can right now, Like

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 2>we need to educate people about pronouns and different different

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 2>types of sexuality and the issues that these people are facing.

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 2>We need to educate more people on that. But I

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 2>think like we're walking towards a future where we don't

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 2>have to label ourselves. I mean, we can label ourselves,

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's we shouldn't have to do it for

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 2>someone else. That's the thing. Like Wilhelm, he's just in

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 2>love with this boy. He's you know, he's own labeled.

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't have to he doesn't owe anyone uh to

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 2>say what what his sexuality is. And I think that's

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 2>a very like that's a cool world to live in,

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, when you don't have to do that.

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it's a world that I want to be

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>a part of. So I think that's that's awesome. Are

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you feeling emotional as you gear up for your last season?

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Is it? Does it hit you yet or you're just kind.

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Of course course, Yeah, it's it's bittersweet, like it really

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:49.120
<v Speaker 2>really is. I've lived with this, this story in these characters,

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 2>mainly Wilhelm then for three years soon and it's been

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 2>such a like it flipped my life upside down obviously,

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 2>and so it I mean to an end, is it's

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 2>it's emotional.

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what are you going to take from your character.

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything you're gonna try to sneak off set?

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I've already stolen some stuff, you know, I've been Uh yeah,

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I've been taking some stuff.

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Anything else you have your eye on that, you're like,

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 1>I've got to get my hands on.

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I actually I had a discussion with Omar about this.

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I think.

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.479
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's some stuff I want, and there's

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 2>some stuff like I should take with me, Like I

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 2>should bring the uniform back with me home, you know,

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 2>because I won't use it. It's just it's just a

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 2>part of me, you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah,

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 2>we'll see, you know, we'll see what I can sneak out.

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Sneak out.

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I think the uniform has to be hung, framed and

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:55.879
<v Speaker 1>on your wall, right yeah, like that, Yeah, exactly right

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>there on that wall. That's right there. Ed, Then, what

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 1>is something you can tell me about that you're working

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>on just for yourself.

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 2>I worry a lot about expectations, and that's something like

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm truly working on. But if I, if I honestly

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<v Speaker 2>had the ability to just pop that out there and

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 2>give it some love and tell it what it should

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 2>think and feel, I'd be a very happy man. I

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 2>mean it's just hard. You know. Expectations is weird, you know,

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 2>and it grows from from rumors or it grows from

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 2>from just people talking with each other, and you start

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 2>to you start to feel the expectations, and you start

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:40.839
<v Speaker 2>to imagine expectations, and you're like expecting people's expectations of you.

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 2>You know. It's it's a it's a spider web of negativity,

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 2>and I'm I really want to be out of place

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 2>where I can feel confident enough to know which of

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 2>these expectations I have to care about and not.

0:35:57.320 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, so is it kind of like a fear

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 1>of not living up to people's expectations.

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. My

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 2>my therapist she told me disappointing people is part of

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:12.879
<v Speaker 2>like the contract of life. Like that's just that's part

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 2>of it.

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 2>People will always be be disappointed in one way or another.

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 2>That's nothing, there's nothing you can do about it. In

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>that sense. You have to like make sure that you

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 2>don't disappoint yourself.

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess, yeah, putting yourself first.

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's something I think a lot of people can

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:36.879
<v Speaker 1>relate to. And I think, you know, Piggy Backing off

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 1>of that, it's also having the ability in life to

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>also say no and to again prioritize your help and

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:44.720
<v Speaker 1>your well being.

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 2>It's very important to set boundaries and to build that

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 2>like integrity. It really is, and it doesn't matter like

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:59.800
<v Speaker 2>who you are. It's always important because you deserve to

0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 2>have your own boundaries, you.

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Know, oh one hundred percent. I mean, can we just

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>get a quote book from you? Because I feel like

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 1>in the interview today you have given us so many beautiful,

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 1>well spoken, eloquent nuggets of wisdom on that I just

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>want on my coffee table.

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:19.879
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Yeah, I'll make I'll make a coffee mug

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 2>for you with all these quotes on.

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:23.719
<v Speaker 1>There we go. That would be a perfect way to

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 1>begin every morning. Edvon I am. I am so just

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>in awe of your talent and of you as a

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.800
<v Speaker 1>human being. I think that you have a huge, huge,

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 1>huge career ahead of you, and the fact that you're

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 1>so grounded and in touch with the things that are

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>important in life is only going to serve you for

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the better of my friend and I just I just

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 1>love chatting with you.

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 2>That's nice, Thank you, Tommy. I really enjoyed chatting with

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 2>you. You're a You're a very nice human being. So much fun.

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I feel safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I love that. That's the best compliment ever. I

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 1>love that so much. I've Never Said This Before is

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:09.520
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