1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: me Tommy Didario. Today's guest is the super talented Edvn 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: Riding Now. Edvn is one of the biggest breakout stars 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: on Netflix, starring in Young Royals, which is a Swedish 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: teen drama romance set at a fictional elite boarding school. 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Now the show primarily follows Edvin, who plays Prince Wilhelm 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: of Sweden and his romance with fellow male student Simon 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Erickson and all the drama which results, and let me 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: tell you, there is a lot of it. Van grew 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: up in Stockholm, Sweden, and started acting at five years 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: old and a humble brag on his behalf. He became 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: a Forbes thirty Under thirty lister in twenty twenty two, 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: which is not an easy title to obtain, and he 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: managed to graduate high school during his rise to superstardom. 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: He is now working on several different projects, including a 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: third and final season of Young Royals. I know, I know, 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: what are we going to do without the show? Edvn 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 1: is such a deep and soulful guy, and I know 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: you are going to really enjoy hearing a different side 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: to him. Throughout this conversation. So let's see if today 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: we can get Edvan to say something that he's never 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: said before. Van, my friend, it is so good to 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: be hanging out with you. How are you today? 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: Likewise? I'm good. I'm good. It's been a beautiful day 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: here in Stockholm. I'm happy spring is coming. 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. I'm great, man, I'm great. I'm 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I should be kind of fanning myself because 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: am I talking to who BuzzFeed said is the next 29 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: Meryl Street, Viola Davis and Denzel Washington. 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: I don't know about that. We'll see. 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: It's up to me, you know, Yeah, yeah, it's up 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: to you. But what an honor? I read that article 33 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: not too long ago, and it was like, that's my man, 34 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: Good for you, Good for you. That must feel good. 35 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: Huh yeah, it's been. Uh, it's always like it's a 36 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: big honor. Obviously, you you get a little frightened at first, 37 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: but then you like take a breather and then you 38 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: realize it's truly is like a huge honor and it's 39 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: something great to build from, you know. 40 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, well deserved. You are somebody who means 41 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: so much to so many and and it's largely due 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: to the show Young Royals, which came out and we're 43 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: in two seasons now. This show has taken the world 44 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: by storm. It is one of the hottest shows on Netflix. 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: People just love it to death so much. I want 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: to bring it back for a minute. What was it 47 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: that made you say when you read that initial script 48 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: that pilot man, I have to be a part of 49 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: this series. 50 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's it's It was actually quite funny 51 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: because I was in like a weird period in my 52 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: life where, you know, COVID had just hit the world 53 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: a couple of months earlier, and I was like at 54 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: a stalemate, you know. I mean, it's weird for me 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: as twenty year old to say that, but you know 56 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: it was. I was feeling pretty like restless, and then 57 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: I got this call for this this audition, and and 58 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: it just it felt great, Like it was truly just intuition. 59 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: I think, if we're going to break it down, I 60 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: read the script and I was like, yeah, this is sure, 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: it's yeah. You know, it was fun because you know, 62 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: I've heard my my coworker Omar talk about it, and 63 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, this is this is going to 64 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: be a hit, you know, and I read it and 65 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, we can, we can do something out 66 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: of this. I really think with the teamwork that we 67 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: had during season one and season two, I think that's 68 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: like the major, major thing that made it what it was. 69 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: And I think also that's like what made me want 70 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: to do it. 71 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: I love that it's a queer love story, man. I 72 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: mean I grew up, I'm a millennial and I never 73 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: had anything like this to watch. I mean, we had 74 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: Will and Grace, but it was a very different type 75 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: of show and it was great yea, And I love 76 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: the representation there, but it wasn't this this love story. 77 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean, do you feel ever that responsibility of being 78 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: in a show that that means so much to so 79 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: many Uh? 80 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, like it's it's it's definitely 81 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: like it's it's huge for me, and it is a 82 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: big responsibility. Like all these people writing and saying like 83 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 2: they feel seen by this show and by by our 84 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: portrayal of these characters. It's it's massive, you know, and 85 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: I like I feel seen by them as well. Like 86 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: it's a very I haven't spoken about it too much, 87 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: I think, or maybe I've just been been bad at 88 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: articulating it, but it truly is like a give and 89 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: take situation with with us in the cast and our audience, 90 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: like we they make us feel seen, and apparently we 91 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: make them feel seen. And it's like, I think it's 92 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: a big responsibility for us because we're like in the 93 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: spotlight and we want to take care of these people 94 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: as much as possible, and it's a movement and that 95 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: comes with the responsibility, you. 96 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: Know, one hundred percent. I think that's such an interesting 97 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: way to look at it. You know, yes, the audience 98 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: feels seen through your work, but you feel seen through them. 99 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: Talk to me more about that. That's such an interesting, 100 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: interesting way to put it that I really haven't heard before. 101 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, I've been thinking about it these 102 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: last few weeks, Like we're in early early early prep 103 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: for season three right now, and I'm starting to like 104 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: slowly growing into Wilhelm again, and I've been thinking about it, 105 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: like it's we have such an intelligent audience. They're like 106 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: they're like on a high level intelligent people, Like they 107 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: can analyze the show, and they can analyze not just 108 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: our story, like I see them interacting with other shows 109 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: as well, like art stopper Wednesday, and the way they're 110 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: like dissecting these stories and finding like symbolism, it's it's beautiful. 111 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: And some of these things are like just things that 112 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: we as actors are maybe you know, I can only 113 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: speak for myself, but the things that we like come 114 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: we figure it out in the moment. We just do 115 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 2: something and we feel like, yeah, yeah, that's that's that 116 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: makes sense because Willielm's this person and he would do that, 117 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: and then you just do it and and they really 118 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: they pick up on that and it's beautiful. Like they 119 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: they I think they see our craftsmanship and that's huge 120 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: for me as an actor. You know. 121 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a really special relationship to have with 122 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: the viewers of a show that you're creating and you're 123 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: bringing to life. I think that's super super cool. And 124 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: obviously everybody knows that you and Omar are thickest thieves, 125 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: super tight. He of course plays Simon in the show. 126 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: Why was he the right guy to play opposite you? 127 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: Like? 128 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: What made him that guy? 129 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: He's many things, but mainly is a very brave person. 130 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: And he is brave and like almost every aspect of 131 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: his life like he's very he's daring. He wants to 132 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: do stuff and he wants to try them and and 133 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 2: that's like very fundamental for an actor to be able 134 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: to be brave, you know. And I felt like I 135 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: saw that the first audition we did together, because I 136 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: was it was like his first, but it was my 137 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't his first, maybe it was his second 138 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: or something. I had done a few at least, you know, 139 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: And and I was like, in the moment, I was 140 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: trying this improvising stuff, and he just followed, and he 141 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: like he pushed it in another direction, like we were 142 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: just playing with each other, playing with these emotions, and 143 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: it's not easy to do that if you've never like 144 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: properly acted before. And yeah, I really really admire that 145 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: about him. 146 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: And you didn't know him during those early auditions, right, No. 147 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: No, I knew who he was. He was. He's like 148 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: he's been a celebrity in swite him for a few years. 149 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: And I went to see him. It's ten years ago, now, 150 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: that's crazy. Yeah, I went to see him when he 151 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: opened for Justin Bieber in Stockholm twenty thirteen, and his 152 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: like musical career was huge from there, you know, up 153 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: until Royals and it's only been growing. So I knew 154 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: who he was, but I didn't know him personally, you know. 155 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: So how did you establish such an insane bond and 156 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: develop that chemistry on screen? Because you guys together, I mean, 157 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: it's so believable. We as an audience believe you are 158 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: truly in love, and that's not always easy to achieve, 159 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: as in my opinion as a viewer, when I watch 160 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: certain shows, it's you know, kind of like, Okay, yeah, 161 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: they're they're doing the job of having to be in love. 162 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: But I watch the two of you, and I say, no, 163 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: these these guys look like they are in love. So 164 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: how did you form that bond? Was it a pretty 165 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: easy thing to do? 166 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: Firstly, thank you, that's very kind of words. It was. 167 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: It wasn't easy, you know. I mean it's never easy 168 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: to or sometimes it is, you know. With Omer, I 169 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 2: think it was actually because like I said, he's brave. 170 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: I'd like to consider myself as a brave person's file 171 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: and we kind of had to. Like it was, it 172 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: was like a force of nature in some way because 173 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: he's he's very open and brave, and I'm I'm I'm 174 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: very like intrigued by those types of people, and we 175 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 2: were working all of these long hours and day in 176 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: and day out, and we were doing these beautiful scenes, 177 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: and we had our director who is like our directors 178 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: they were they were really like helping us out with 179 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: understanding these scenes in this relationship, and that I think 180 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: that created like a trust between me and Omar. And 181 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: trust is like I usually say, like the two most 182 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: important things when it comes to working in the film industry, 183 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,359 Speaker 2: or maybe three things. It's like it's trust, it's communication, 184 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 2: and its respect. And I think me and Omar found 185 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: out with each other pretty quickly. 186 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: I love the development of your character in the two seasons. 187 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: I imagine for you it must be a super fun 188 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: role to play. What you love about playing the Prince? 189 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: Wow? Uh? I love It's very challenging, honestly. I mean, uh, 190 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: he's he's grown a lot since the first episode of 191 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: season one. Uh. And he's it's been like a rollercoaster 192 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: so far. Uh. And that's very challenging. And I think 193 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: mainly that's like the funniest, the most fun part of it. 194 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: But he's like he's so sensitive and it's always like 195 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: I you feel like it's rewarding for you as a person. 196 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: I feel like it's rewarding for me, like as a 197 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: person to portray Willham, because like he's so sensitive and 198 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: emotional in a very uh in a very good way. 199 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: Like it's not it's very anti macho thing, and I 200 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: think that's important to portray as well, and and for 201 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: me as an actor to be able to like go 202 00:10:55,360 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: into those that kind of lifestyle and and places. It's 203 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: rewarding for me as a person. You know, I learn 204 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: a lot by working with young royals, and that's great, Like, 205 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: that's not it's not usually like that, I think. 206 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, well, I think it takes a special 207 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: kind of person too to be aware with the environment 208 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: and the work that they're doing to actually learn something 209 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: from it. Right, It's not like you go to work, 210 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: you put on this character and you leave and you're 211 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: kind of like that's it. Like you want to grow, 212 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: you want to learn, you want to be somebody who's 213 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: continually improving yourself. At least that's what I gather from 214 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: our conversations, which I think is a really unique trait 215 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: and quality to have in this industry. I know that 216 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: season two, this character he goes through some things, and 217 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: I know you've commented on how you've kind of grappled 218 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: with how you view your character in season two. Talk 219 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: to me more about that. 220 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: Well, this created kind of created quite a stir on 221 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: the social media when I said this, at least with 222 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: our audience, because they defend Wilhelm really, you know, really 223 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: really much. And what I've been like when I say 224 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: I I had a hard time understanding, Well, it was 225 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: like on a very like fundamental, but also it was 226 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 2: kind of abstract because I thought he was very selfish 227 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: a lot of the time in season two. He was 228 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: mainly thinking about himself and his own problems. He wasn't 229 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: thinking about h Simon and his problems, and and that's 230 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: you know, it's frustrating reading that, you know, seeing that 231 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: character in front of you is like, I wouldn't want 232 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: to be friends with that kind of person. I think 233 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: people can change, you know, but it's a very it's 234 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: a very pessimistic way of life, I think. And that 235 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: was a hard time like understanding, but then I had 236 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: long conversations with our writers and directors and eventually I 237 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: figured it out. I think I don't know if our 238 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: audience know what I mean yet, but they will one day. 239 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I think that's cool that you get to 240 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: explore different sides to this character, right, Like that must 241 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: be fun for you. 242 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: It is, you know, it's always funnier. Like you know, 243 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: people are so like complex. You know, we have different 244 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: different ways of talking when we're with different people, we 245 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: have different ways of moving, we laugh different with different people, 246 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: and just you know, that's like the outer layer, imagine 247 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: like the inner layer. It's way more complex, and that's 248 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: like reality. So portraying that is speaking of like rewarding 249 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: for me as a person. That's also like I learn 250 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: a lot by doing that because that's what it is 251 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: in real life, Like how does Wilhelm control these feelings? 252 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: Pretty badly? Sometimes maybe I should do that, you know, 253 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? 254 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's right on. I think it's an 255 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: interesting study on human behavior when you kind of drive 256 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: into a character like that, right. 257 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is, it is. I find that 258 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: so interesting, Like the human mind, it's powerful and scary, 259 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: but it's beautiful at the same time. So I tried 260 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: to everything I know about psychology and behavioral science. I 261 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: try to put into my character work. 262 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: So if you can look back at your work over 263 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: the last two seasons. Is there a scene or a 264 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: moment that was so meaningful for you wish you could 265 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: relive it and and do it all over again because 266 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: you so enjoyed doing it. And on the flip side, 267 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: is there a scene that you wish Hm, I wish 268 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: I had another shot at that. I feel like I 269 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: could trade a little differently. 270 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: Like I enjoyed most of my time. I'm thinking about 271 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: which scene I like the most, not which one I 272 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: hate the most. No, but I think the football field 273 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: scene or soccer sorry. 274 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, depending on where you live. 275 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that scene in season one for me as an 276 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: actor was very fun to do. We were improvising a lot, 277 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: and I had a really nice collaboration with our director 278 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: for that episode and with Omar, and I think, I, yeah, 279 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: that was really that was fun. I don't think I 280 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: want to do it again. I want to like be 281 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: in that moment watching myself doing it, do you know 282 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: what I mean? I don't think I could do that 283 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: exact same thing again because it's so it was so 284 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: like intuitive, But it was fun to do. And if 285 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: I get another shot at one scene, probably some scenes 286 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: in like the early early stages of season one, it 287 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: was a weird time coming into the first season, and 288 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: some of those scenes were pretty difficult to grasp Aron 289 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: and we had like issues with postponing these scenes because 290 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: of COVID and stuff. So if I have to say one, 291 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: maybe the scene in episode one of season one, there's 292 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: the scene in the car where Wilhelm he finds out 293 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: that he's going to start at Hemascat at the school 294 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: and he's really pissed at this Royal Family staff member. 295 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: If I have to pick one scene, I'd picked that one. 296 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: Very cool. I always find it so fascinating the inner 297 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: workings of artists brains and how they view their work. 298 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: So thank you for sharing that. I think it's so 299 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: cool that you started as the Swedish actor and then 300 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: you hit this international level of fame with the show, 301 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: even appearing on Jimmy Kimmel here in New York City, 302 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: which is just so cool. So what are you the 303 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: most proud of with your work on this show. 304 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: I think I'm the most proud of like the way 305 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: we've we've reached out to the audience, Like the way 306 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: we've connected with our audience. I've been saying this now 307 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 2: for two years soon, but it's so majestic, it's monumental. 308 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: It's like for me, it's like it's such a feeling 309 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: of comfort in my chest. Like the relationship that this 310 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: story has with its audience is it's so beautiful and 311 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: it's so like it's it's real, you know, it's a 312 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: movement and you can dissect the whole period down to 313 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: different Obviously, I'm super, super proud to have been on FOUL. 314 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: I think we honestly, I think we were the first 315 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: we're the first Sweetist show to be promoted on Jimmy 316 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: Fallon and that's huge, you know. But but there's like 317 00:17:54,640 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: so much more to it than just like being able 318 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: to travel the world with this show and meeting all 319 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 2: these people. I think that that relationship with the audience 320 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: is Yeah, it's beautiful. 321 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I see a lot of the comments 322 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: surrounding the show and how this show has helped so 323 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: many people. You know, I often wonder if I had 324 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: a show like this, I'm thirty, teld them, I'm thirty seven. Now, 325 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: if I had a show like. 326 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: You're Looking Day over twenty five, you don't have. 327 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: To you don't have to lie. I mean, I appreciate that, 328 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: but thank you. 329 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. 330 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: I wondered if I would have maybe come out earlier 331 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: if the show existed. You know, I came out what's 332 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: considered late now. I mean, I know there's no right time, 333 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: but I was in sen year of college, and I 334 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: think it's so great. So many people are coming out 335 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: earlier and earlier and on their own time, and I 336 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: just wonder if I had something like this, would that 337 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: have helped me? And I think it probably does help 338 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people. You know, it's powerful. 339 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is like that's that I've really moved by that. Wow, 340 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: But also like it's this, this is like it's all 341 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: part of like a big process. I really believe that 342 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: at one point there will be no like coming out 343 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: late or coming out early or anything like that, because 344 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: people won't have to come out because it won't matter, 345 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: Like for real, it won't matter who you love or 346 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: what your pronouns are or what you identify as. It's 347 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what we're working against, and Royals Young 348 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 2: Roles is evidently it's a part of that process, and 349 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: I'm super proud to be part of that little puzzle piece. 350 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: You know. 351 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's important, and I think what a refreshing world. 352 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: It will be when we don't have to do any 353 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: of those things you just talked to me. I know 354 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm ready for that time. And in fact, I remember 355 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: seeing a tweet, you know, and I believe your friend 356 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: Kit Connor kind of got publicly, you know, out it 357 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: if you want to call that as as bisexual, and 358 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: he came out and made a steament and you said, 359 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: my heart was out to you, right are you? Along 360 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: those lines? You said your heart you feel for him, 361 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: because no one should be put in that position, right, 362 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: we should all just we shouldn't have to do that. 363 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 2: No, No, it was that was painful to watch, you know. 364 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: And kid's such a sweet guy too. I mean, no 365 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: one deserves that. But at this age too, I mean 366 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: we're the same age and and and to be like 367 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: forced into two coming out or like proclaiming who you are, 368 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: like you you owe people that. It's it's such a 369 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 2: weird way of looking at the world and fellow human beings. Yeah, weird, 370 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: you know. 371 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's I think showing your support was a 372 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: really amazing thing to do. And I I, of course, 373 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: I think it speaks huge, huge volumes of who you 374 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: are as a person. And I just thought that was cool, 375 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: So I agree with you. I think when there's a 376 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: time where we don't have to do that, it's going 377 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: to be awesome. Speaking of Kit Connor, who of course 378 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: stars in Heart Stopper, there's a lot of buzz and 379 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: shatter around the internet. I don't know if you said 380 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: something in an interview once, oh yeah, but everyone's wanting 381 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: some sort of crossover. So for everyone who's listening, if 382 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: you haven't seen Heart Stopper, it's another amazing queer love 383 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: story on Netflix. Season one was brilliant. I believe season 384 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: two wrapped and that should be coming out hopefully soon, 385 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of people want to see, you know, 386 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: Kit and Joe the two actors in the show, and 387 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: and you and Omar do some sort of crossover. Maybe 388 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: it's a double date in one of the shows. I 389 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, come on, what's happening? Are we 390 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: doing anything? 391 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, we said that in an 392 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 2: interview a couple of months ago, and it created was 393 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: been mayhem afterwards. I don't think, like I'd love to 394 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 2: like do something with Kid and Joe and me and Omar. 395 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if we should do it in character though, 396 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 2: but I mean, we share a lot of audience members 397 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: the two shows, and I think we should we should. Yeah, 398 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: I want to, you know, we should do something. I 399 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 2: don't know if a crossover is the right way to go, 400 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: but you know, it would be fun to give something 401 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: to the to the audience. You know. 402 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: Well, if you do a crossover, I know season three 403 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: is sadly the final season of your show, which is 404 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: breaking hearts across the world. So maybe maybe you and 405 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: Omar are foreign transplant students in their school and then 406 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: you just have to be part of their next season. 407 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: They're done. I'm a writer. 408 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: Well there you have it. Wow, perfect down right now. 409 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: There we go, There we go. I'll call my people, 410 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: will call your people. 411 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 2: We got this perfect. Yeah, we'll sort it out. Yeah. 412 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: So you said that you're getting ready for season three. 413 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: Is there anything you can share about the season? 414 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: Not story wise, it's but it's it's like it's the 415 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 2: final season we've we've like, it's it's out there in 416 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: the open. But I gotta say, like, the beautiful part 417 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: of this art form is that we we produce something 418 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: and we portray these characters that amazing people have written 419 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 2: and were directed by great people, and there's like hundreds 420 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 2: of people working with this and we we like construct 421 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 2: this this art piece, and then we give it to 422 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: the audience. So even though like season three is the 423 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: last last season that will produce, like the story, the characters, 424 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: the world that these characters live in, they belong to 425 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: the audience, uh, and they will forever and ever. And 426 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 2: so hopefully that calms some people down, because I want 427 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 2: them to know, like, these these characters are them. You know, 428 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: they can they can write these these beautiful I've recently 429 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: gotten a bit into these fan fictions that they've been writing, 430 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: and it's quite interesting the creative ways they they place 431 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: these characters with each other. But that's like, that's the 432 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: future for Young Voice. I think it belongs to the audience. 433 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And I know, I know you might know, 434 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 1: but you can't say anything. But do you hope that 435 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: your character Prince Wilhelm and Simon are endgame? Do you 436 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: hope that they end up together? 437 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: Of course, like I believe in love, but I you know, 438 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what happens. 439 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well I'm rooting for I'm a huge 440 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: lover of love. I've I've been with my husband now 441 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: for eight years. Congratulations, thank you, thank you. I I 442 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: just I love love So I know they're characters, but 443 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: I am personally rooting for the two of you. 444 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: That's good, that's nice. I think. I think you're not alone. 445 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: I think, but just just a hunch. No, we'll see. 446 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I we were still a few months away 447 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: from from shooting, and anything can still happen with the story. 448 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: So so and I think either way, they've gotten so 449 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: much from each other, these two characters, they've learned so much. 450 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: Like I said, like Wilhelm's he's done such a journey 451 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 2: since season one, episode one, and that journey is continuing 452 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: in the third season. So and the same with with Simon. 453 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:43,719 Speaker 2: It's they're like developing and learning from each other in 454 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: a very beautiful way. So in a way, they will 455 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 2: always be endgame, you know, even if they don't end 456 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: up together. Do you know what I mean? 457 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. I agree. I think 458 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: you're I think you're colely trying to say. You're not 459 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: going to give away any spoilers, but they'll always be 460 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: a part of their life, each other's lives. I don't 461 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: know what happened. I see the game you're playing with me. 462 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: It's all good. I get it. 463 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: The media train, you know, I'm good at this. 464 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: That's right, that's well. We can't wait for the new season. 465 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: I know you're you're going to get to work on it. 466 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: But who knows, maybe even by the end of the year. 467 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: We'll see it, right, we'll see you know. I'm not 468 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: in charge of setting the dates for the premieres at Netflix. 469 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: You have to You'll have to talk to someone else. 470 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: I know we've talked a lot about the show and 471 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: the impact it's had on on the audience, and how 472 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: also you feel so connected to the audience. But you know, edvond, 473 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: I wonder with the show like this, where there's so 474 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: much noise surrounding it. And I don't mean noise negatively. 475 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's just as noise. There's a lot of conversation, 476 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of chatter, there's a lot of attention. Right, 477 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: It's a show that people constantly are are talking about. 478 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: Do you, as Edvan ever feel like it's just a 479 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: little too loud? Is it? Is it ever too much 480 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: for you? And how do you deal with that as 481 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: as a human. 482 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 2: The honest answer is yes, obviously, I mean, it can 483 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: be too much. And I think my my bar is 484 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: pretty low when it comes to dealing with stuff, whether 485 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: it's positive or negative. You know, it affects me in 486 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 2: different ways. Uh, And I've taken my fair share of 487 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: breaks from social media. I think that's like, right now, 488 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 2: that's my main, my main way of dealing with it. 489 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 2: But you know, it's it's it's fun too, Like I'm 490 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 2: super grateful that I'm in this position and that we 491 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 2: have this audience. But yeah, it can Yeah, it can 492 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: be too much sometimes. 493 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's anything that kind of 494 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: gives you this widespread attention can can take take a 495 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: toll on you a bit, right. And I know you've 496 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: talked about how your character explores his journey with his 497 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: anxiety and his mental health, and I know you're a 498 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: big proponent of putting a spotlight on the importance of 499 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: mental health and taking care of yourself. What is your 500 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: journey personally been like with mental health. 501 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: Well, I've I've I've struggled with it at times, and 502 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: I've tried to Like my way of dealing with it 503 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: is through education, like learning about it. I studied behavioral 504 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: science in high school. Partially because I think it's it's 505 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: a great ass to have as an actor, but also 506 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: like as a human being, understanding how our brains and 507 00:28:53,520 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: our psych works. And I've also realized like therapy is 508 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: like the best thing ever and the good thing about it. 509 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: And I really want to say this because it took 510 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: some time for me to realize it. But the thing 511 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: with therapy is that it's proactive, like you're working to 512 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: prevent future disasters, if you'd like to call them that, 513 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: or like you're learning how to deal with future thoughts 514 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: and future emotions because you get to know yourself and 515 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: you get to know where your boundaries are. And that's great. 516 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: You know, I'm in therapy now and it's the best 517 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: thing ever. I feel better than ever. 518 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: You know, and that's what's important. I think there is 519 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: still a stigma around it. And yeah, I went for 520 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: the first time over the holidays actually and really no, yeah, yeah, 521 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: I just had to sort through some stuff. And yeah, 522 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: even though I'm such a proponent for mental health, it 523 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: still took me thirty seven years to make it happen. 524 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: And my my therapist, she said, you bathed your body, 525 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you bathe your mind? And I thought that 526 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: was so cool. 527 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: Wow, that's good. Yeah, you know, that's good. 528 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think being good to yourself is so 529 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: important and thank you for opening up about that. The 530 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: more people that I can do that, especially in the spotlight, 531 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: the better. So that's that's truly, truly important. You said 532 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: a quote about the show that I thought was really interesting, 533 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: and I want I want to talk more about this 534 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: quote and that quinto It's not bad, it's it's really 535 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: really cool. Actually, you said sexuality is not the focal 536 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: point of the show, which I think is a very 537 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: important message to tell. Now, maybe somebody who watches a 538 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: show or catches a few, you know, of the episodes, 539 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: or reads about it might think, well, that's not true. 540 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: It's about two men who are in a love romantic 541 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: story and it's about the relationship, so it's very much 542 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: about sexuality. What would you say to that and talk 543 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: to me more about your quote. 544 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: Well, I totally understand that perspective, but I just disagree 545 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: because the thing is, these people were telling a story 546 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: about human beings and human beings interacting with each other, 547 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: and they come from different like, they come from different 548 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: parts of society and different places in the like social hierarchy. Uh, 549 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: and that's the issue that they faced, the the like 550 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: the label of their sexuality or or you know, their 551 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: pronouns or whatever it may be. That's never the issue 552 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: for these characters. It's like where it's the it's the 553 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: social issues around them, you know, and expectations and tradition. 554 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: That's like, that's their problems they're facing, and so therefore 555 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: it's not about sexuality. It's about you know, these it's 556 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: about a friend's coming from very traditional from a very 557 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: traditional background and very like conservative traditions and stuff, and 558 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: how he deals with that while he's in love. You know, 559 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: people fall in love with their young, no matter if 560 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: it's a boy or girl or whatever, you know. 561 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting because it kind of goes 562 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: back to your point earlier of one day hoping that 563 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: there's no coming out and there's no focus on pronouns 564 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: and it's just a part of life, right. 565 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I understand where we're at now as 566 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 2: a society, and we need to like we need to 567 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: embrace that and do what we can right now, Like 568 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: we need to educate people about pronouns and different different 569 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: types of sexuality and the issues that these people are facing. 570 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: We need to educate more people on that. But I 571 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: think like we're walking towards a future where we don't 572 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: have to label ourselves. I mean, we can label ourselves, 573 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: you know, it's we shouldn't have to do it for 574 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: someone else. That's the thing. Like Wilhelm, he's just in 575 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 2: love with this boy. He's you know, he's own labeled. 576 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: He doesn't have to he doesn't owe anyone uh to 577 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: say what what his sexuality is. And I think that's 578 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: a very like that's a cool world to live in, 579 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: you know, when you don't have to do that. 580 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's a world that I want to be 581 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: a part of. So I think that's that's awesome. Are 582 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: you feeling emotional as you gear up for your last season? 583 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: Is it? Does it hit you yet or you're just kind. 584 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: Of course course, Yeah, it's it's bittersweet, like it really 585 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: really is. I've lived with this, this story in these characters, 586 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 2: mainly Wilhelm then for three years soon and it's been 587 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: such a like it flipped my life upside down obviously, 588 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: and so it I mean to an end, is it's 589 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: it's emotional. 590 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you going to take from your character. 591 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: Is there anything you're gonna try to sneak off set? 592 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: I've already stolen some stuff, you know, I've been Uh yeah, 593 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: I've been taking some stuff. 594 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: Anything else you have your eye on that, you're like, 595 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: I've got to get my hands on. 596 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: I actually I had a discussion with Omar about this. 597 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: I think. 598 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,479 Speaker 2: I feel like there's some stuff I want, and there's 599 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: some stuff like I should take with me, Like I 600 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: should bring the uniform back with me home, you know, 601 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: because I won't use it. It's just it's just a 602 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: part of me, you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, 603 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: we'll see, you know, we'll see what I can sneak out. 604 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 2: Sneak out. 605 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: I think the uniform has to be hung, framed and 606 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 1: on your wall, right yeah, like that, Yeah, exactly right 607 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: there on that wall. That's right there. Ed, Then, what 608 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: is something you can tell me about that you're working 609 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: on just for yourself. 610 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: I worry a lot about expectations, and that's something like 611 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: I'm truly working on. But if I, if I honestly 612 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: had the ability to just pop that out there and 613 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 2: give it some love and tell it what it should 614 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: think and feel, I'd be a very happy man. I 615 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: mean it's just hard. You know. Expectations is weird, you know, 616 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: and it grows from from rumors or it grows from 617 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 2: from just people talking with each other, and you start 618 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 2: to you start to feel the expectations, and you start 619 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 2: to imagine expectations, and you're like expecting people's expectations of you. 620 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 2: You know. It's it's a it's a spider web of negativity, 621 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: and I'm I really want to be out of place 622 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 2: where I can feel confident enough to know which of 623 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 2: these expectations I have to care about and not. 624 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: You know, so is it kind of like a fear 625 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: of not living up to people's expectations. 626 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. My 627 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 2: my therapist she told me disappointing people is part of 628 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 2: like the contract of life. Like that's just that's part 629 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 2: of it. 630 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: Wow. 631 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 2: People will always be be disappointed in one way or another. 632 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 2: That's nothing, there's nothing you can do about it. In 633 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 2: that sense. You have to like make sure that you 634 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: don't disappoint yourself. 635 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, putting yourself first. 636 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 637 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something I think a lot of people can 638 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 1: relate to. And I think, you know, Piggy Backing off 639 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: of that, it's also having the ability in life to 640 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: also say no and to again prioritize your help and 641 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 1: your well being. 642 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: It's very important to set boundaries and to build that 643 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 2: like integrity. It really is, and it doesn't matter like 644 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 2: who you are. It's always important because you deserve to 645 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 2: have your own boundaries, you. 646 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: Know, oh one hundred percent. I mean, can we just 647 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: get a quote book from you? Because I feel like 648 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: in the interview today you have given us so many beautiful, 649 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: well spoken, eloquent nuggets of wisdom on that I just 650 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: want on my coffee table. 651 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, I'll make I'll make a coffee mug 652 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: for you with all these quotes on. 653 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: There we go. That would be a perfect way to 654 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: begin every morning. Edvon I am. I am so just 655 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: in awe of your talent and of you as a 656 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: human being. I think that you have a huge, huge, 657 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: huge career ahead of you, and the fact that you're 658 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: so grounded and in touch with the things that are 659 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: important in life is only going to serve you for 660 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: the better of my friend and I just I just 661 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: love chatting with you. 662 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 2: That's nice, Thank you, Tommy. I really enjoyed chatting with 663 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: you. You're a You're a very nice human being. So much fun. 664 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 2: Oh god, I feel safe. 665 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 1: Oh I love that. That's the best compliment ever. I 666 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: love that so much. I've Never Said This Before is 667 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: hosted by me Tommy Didario. This podcast is produced and 668 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: edited by Mike Coscarelli, and executive producers are Andrew Paglici 669 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: and Katrino Norvel At iHeartRadio. I've Never Said This Before 670 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 1: is part of the Elvis Durant podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts. 671 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: For more, rate, review and subscribe to our show and 672 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,479 Speaker 1: if you liked this episode, tell your friends. Until next time, 673 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm Tommy Dederio.