Speaker 1: Um. If you watch the Coffee Time the baby you
Speaker 1: know the name Flame, my role also known as my
Speaker 1: role Flame. Come in with last and come in with
Speaker 1: jam love lounds. Baby, you better catch it when you
Speaker 1: can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics, shouting now comics,
Speaker 1: just paying homice. What's up? Tip? Yeah? You know she raped?
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Speaker 1: gonna last cut of the kicking and at the end
Speaker 1: we leave it, which is a lift di spirit. Make
Speaker 1: you want to revisit. So your first take a list
Speaker 1: of you folks say it slip, oh folks that we
Speaker 1: dig it. He don't do what you do? No kiss?
Speaker 1: Do what you don't? No kiss, do what I do?
Speaker 1: Fame were Flame. We welcome to Left Alone. We're flaming
Speaker 1: Nick and my beautiful co host today, Lauren Hogan. Hello, Dick, Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: Hello Lauren? Hi Nick? How are you? I'm all right?
Speaker 1: I'm all right, you guys? Where are you? I am
Speaker 1: home here in Little Rock Arkroosa. Because COVID restrictions, we're
Speaker 1: just trying to be as safe as with we can.
Speaker 1: We are and I get you back in a week
Speaker 1: or so. You'll be back, you know. But you know
Speaker 1: what to do. I ain't do indeed, you ain't got
Speaker 1: that that second check yet, I know what to do,
Speaker 1: you know, and that and the gloves and everything. It's just, uh,
Speaker 1: it's just there are ways to travel and try to
Speaker 1: be as safe as possible. Yes, well, we want to
Speaker 1: welcome you all to laugh and learn. Thank you guys
Speaker 1: for coming on in with myself and with Lauren, and
Speaker 1: of course we're a part of Nick Smith and Nick.
Speaker 1: How was your week? How was your weekend? My week
Speaker 1: was good. You know, it's been a good week. Uh everything,
Speaker 1: you know, notwithstanding you know, like everything else, we've been
Speaker 1: working the day job and just trying to manage the
Speaker 1: day to day of everything. And I think flame more
Speaker 1: than anything, it's been me just trying to figure out
Speaker 1: the best way to celebrate responsibly, you know, as we
Speaker 1: move into the holiday because as we've talked earlier this week,
Speaker 1: uh and over the weekend, I'm thinking that with the
Speaker 1: roll out of this vaccine, it may be an opportunity
Speaker 1: for us to protect ourselves and be a little bit
Speaker 1: safer as we get closer to with the holidays. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what to say. I'm just hoping that maybe this will
Speaker 1: offer a glimmer of silver lining to that dark cloud.
Speaker 1: We will get around to the vaccine later down the lane.
Speaker 1: I don't want to have gas. If I stopped talking
Speaker 1: about that right now, it's gonna give me gas and
Speaker 1: I have popass chicken. So yeah, no, But you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I would like to talk to you about
Speaker 1: that move though, because that's what's been happening. You spent
Speaker 1: the entire Arm weekend moving. I've been moving for like
Speaker 1: a week. And she had a drag sail. We can't
Speaker 1: forget that. And I had a drag sail. And thank
Speaker 1: you guys who bought the worth of clothes that you bought.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I still got some other stuff left.
Speaker 1: But if you missed out on and then you snooze,
Speaker 1: you lose that, you know, kind of like the President
Speaker 1: the Nikolas, y'all like missed out on a drag Oh,
Speaker 1: it goes hand in hand. Secondly, Nick, the move is
Speaker 1: still going on. I will technically be officially out of
Speaker 1: my old place until my new place no later than Thursday,
Speaker 1: because I got a great cleaning crew coming on Friday.
Speaker 1: Laurence saw the house. She came back yesterday, so she
Speaker 1: saw the house, but Nick went before. Nick hasn't seen
Speaker 1: you know nick name come to work today, So how
Speaker 1: about you. I did a drive by, I didn't go in. No,
Speaker 1: it's it's really nice. And she has you have two backyards. Really,
Speaker 1: I have to backyard. Timmy has a place to run around.
Speaker 1: So the move has been great. A lot of stuff
Speaker 1: other stuff is going on in my personal life, but
Speaker 1: I am here to work today and laugh and learn
Speaker 1: with you guys with the Flame Family, with Lauren, with
Speaker 1: Triple the producer, with Kindle the videographer, and we are
Speaker 1: here to give you all the show. It is so
Speaker 1: much going on. So Nickolas, since you can be here
Speaker 1: in studio with us, and I know we were trying
Speaker 1: to do the whole zoomie thing. Hold on, let me
Speaker 1: slide that week back. Just the tank see this one.
Speaker 1: You know you get on the week moves. When I move,
Speaker 1: it's like ludicrous. When I move, you move just like that. Hey,
Speaker 1: we will be bringing you ain't back and forth, back
Speaker 1: and forth because of the topics that we're covering today,
Speaker 1: and some stuff is very important and you are, Lauren
Speaker 1: are so um knowledgeable about some of the things that
Speaker 1: we're talking about today, and I'm going to really let
Speaker 1: y'all take the floor because what we want to do
Speaker 1: today is teach and get everybody ready for the aftermap
Speaker 1: or for the beginning of what is coming, because a
Speaker 1: lot is coming. So we're gonna be going back and
Speaker 1: forth for you today. Is that who? That sounds great
Speaker 1: to me? You know, I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: are standing in line watching right now. So I do
Speaker 1: want to give a shout out to those who are
Speaker 1: in Georgia right now because today is early voting, the
Speaker 1: first day of early voting. A lot of people are
Speaker 1: sliding my d ms just to say, Nick, you and
Speaker 1: Flame gonna remind people. We're definitely reminding people today, those
Speaker 1: who are watching the slide and then you know, hopefully
Speaker 1: people will take an opportunity to engage in early votings.
Speaker 1: There you go, and Georgia, Georgia. I know it's asking
Speaker 1: a lot. I know you guys think that it's asking
Speaker 1: a lot to get back out there standing land vote again.
Speaker 1: Do this again. But the importance of this vote is
Speaker 1: as as significant as the presidential vote, because if we
Speaker 1: do not take half of the Senate and get a
Speaker 1: place where we have some kind of control. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be as bad as it was the last four years.
Speaker 1: He won't be in office, but Mitch mccona was still
Speaker 1: there and he is still blocking everything. So we have
Speaker 1: to get ourselves in a position to where we have
Speaker 1: some say so over what is going on over all
Speaker 1: American lives, not just blacks or browns, but all Americans.
Speaker 1: So our first topic, we're talking about the executions that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is trying to push before he gets out office.
Speaker 1: They just executed someone, when was it Friday? To right?
Speaker 1: That was bourgeois? Yeah, there was, it was Brandon Bernard
Speaker 1: was on the eleventh and okay, and there are five
Speaker 1: more in five different states, including uh women a white
Speaker 1: woman actually right? Yes? Right? Or what's happening is what
Speaker 1: what what happens is everyone is at the is at
Speaker 1: the FCC, which is the Federal Correction Complex and Terra Haled, Indiana.
Speaker 1: So regardless of where they may have committed the crime
Speaker 1: or have been sentenced, they've all been transferred there. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it's Indiana that has been uh killing them so
Speaker 1: or or um carrying out their sentence. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be uh cavalier or callous about it because, as
Speaker 1: we discussed, you know, uh, these are people who were
Speaker 1: tried and convicted you know, by a jury of their peers. Um.
Speaker 1: The I think the larger question has been why have
Speaker 1: we reenacted the death penalty to actually carry these out?
Speaker 1: Because it's something that hadn't not been done in a
Speaker 1: very long time. In fact, Lauren and I were talking
Speaker 1: about that. I think it has been more than seventeen years,
Speaker 1: Lauren or something like that. And it's just uh so,
Speaker 1: it just has a lot of people have said that
Speaker 1: these uh steps that some people believe to be draconian
Speaker 1: are being carried out, um and being carried out so quickly.
Speaker 1: Um so Yeah, that that that's a problem. And that
Speaker 1: is that is my question. What is his big rush
Speaker 1: to have all these executions done before he is out
Speaker 1: of office? What did he have like twenty days? Nineteen days?
Speaker 1: And he's in a rushan kid, No, seriously, he's in
Speaker 1: a rush. Who pushed these execute just before he's out office?
Speaker 1: I want to know what is the urgency behind that?
Speaker 1: Why is he doing all of that? Yeah? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and and and it's tough mm hm. And I mean
Speaker 1: it interestingly enough, it doesn't seem like there's a rhyme
Speaker 1: or reason to it. I found it interesting though, that
Speaker 1: one of the individuals that is, you know, scheduled to
Speaker 1: be executed is a white woman, because initially I thought
Speaker 1: it was all people of color. So that was a
Speaker 1: pleasant surprise for me. Um. But in some ways, you know,
Speaker 1: people said it's race related. So I would be curious, Nick,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? Well, you know, I think, Um,
Speaker 1: I personally believe that we cannot exclude anything when it
Speaker 1: comes to this particular administration, right, Um. I think that
Speaker 1: people often cite as an example the clemency that he
Speaker 1: gave to Um. Her name is escaping Alice Walker but
Speaker 1: ellis Johnson john but but to but to think that
Speaker 1: even that wasn't strategic in and of itself, I think
Speaker 1: it by his own stimation, he being President Trump, I
Speaker 1: think it played to a certain base, or he felt
Speaker 1: as though it would. I don't believe it was done
Speaker 1: out of altruism. That's my personal belief. Um. I believe
Speaker 1: that it was definitely done with an agenda. But now
Speaker 1: is that the lady who was Alice Johnson and interesting
Speaker 1: in left with Brandon Bernard. She also reached out to
Speaker 1: Donald Trump again and said please, you know, stay his execution,
Speaker 1: don't do this, and he just completely ignored her. So
Speaker 1: that's that's also interesting too. So what is the motivation
Speaker 1: to your point, there's Alice Johnson where maybe it was
Speaker 1: a good look for you politically, or you know, what
Speaker 1: was the rhyme reason to it? Because now it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like you're giving a care in the world about
Speaker 1: these individuals being executed. Absolutely, and I know that there
Speaker 1: are death row experts and um those in journalism who
Speaker 1: are committed to this particular area. UM. I do know
Speaker 1: that supposedly, um it costs more to actually uh keep
Speaker 1: alive than it is to ex cute UM. I also
Speaker 1: believe that um uh families who have been victimized deserve
Speaker 1: some type of justice. So I think that it's um
Speaker 1: it's a thorny issue all the way around. And it
Speaker 1: goes back to what our larger question was, why the rush?
Speaker 1: Why now, what's the deal and why these particular people
Speaker 1: When you have someone like say Scott Peterson, who you know,
Speaker 1: uh California, just remind our viewers, uh was the one
Speaker 1: who was tried and convicted uh in the Bay Area
Speaker 1: of of of killing his wife and his unborn child
Speaker 1: that he went fishing on Christmas Day, you know, and
Speaker 1: and he could not have possibly done it yet you know,
Speaker 1: I think his wife's name was Stacy. All this escapes
Speaker 1: to me now, but it's just it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where it seems like there have been situations that
Speaker 1: have been extremely egregious, where justice has been delayed for
Speaker 1: families who feel that's a good point right there, delayed
Speaker 1: Dylan Ruth and it in the House delay because both
Speaker 1: of those should be Because I'm not gonna say that
Speaker 1: I don't believe in execution, or if I do believe
Speaker 1: in execution, I am partially a vigilante. Let me just
Speaker 1: say that, if you do some ship to me, I'm
Speaker 1: coming at the OSS, you ain't gonna even recognize me
Speaker 1: because I ain't gonna look like this. I'm gonna look
Speaker 1: like somebody else. I'm gonna walk right up and you're
Speaker 1: gonnaven recognize me. You think she coming, she ain't coming.
Speaker 1: That nigger coming up, and they're gonna show up any
Speaker 1: who those are who should And you know, the privatized
Speaker 1: prison system when it's interesting, you said it's costs more
Speaker 1: to keep them alive. They're they're making six hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars per day with the privatizing UH prison institutions. That's
Speaker 1: a big business. And guess who's in jail. It's it's
Speaker 1: modern day slavery. We're going to really call it what
Speaker 1: it is. It's modern day slavery. The industrial prison complex
Speaker 1: is definitely a real thing. Um. But you know that
Speaker 1: too raises issues because what also happens, and this is
Speaker 1: the ugly side that nobody talks about. Those prisons are
Speaker 1: usually built in communities where there isn't much industry. They
Speaker 1: immediate lee by building that prison, create jobs, restaurants are
Speaker 1: able to have a constant flow of people all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, the tax base helps that community build classrooms.
Speaker 1: So it is, um, it's a tricky situation where, um,
Speaker 1: the the industry you get may not be the industry
Speaker 1: you really want. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's a business, and unfortunately prisons should be
Speaker 1: I think about reform and not about being a money
Speaker 1: making situation. But again, there are those who have studied
Speaker 1: this UH, this area inside out who who may feel differently.
Speaker 1: Lauren will tell you about who is helping to reform
Speaker 1: the prison system. Who is it, Lauren, Well, Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: did interesting. I know that she's had some controversy regarding,
Speaker 1: you know, her stay when she was the Attorney General
Speaker 1: of California, and a lot of folks feel like she
Speaker 1: put us black and brown folks in jail. However, she
Speaker 1: did create prison reform for black folks for them to
Speaker 1: when they actually get out, to reacclimate themselves with society
Speaker 1: and those sort of things. So, I mean, there's good
Speaker 1: and bad with it, I will say, but in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways, Nick, I do agree with you. And
Speaker 1: I'm also trying to look at the comments too as
Speaker 1: we're talking about this. Uh, some people are saying that
Speaker 1: most of women of color are the ones that are
Speaker 1: really on death row, which I didn't know that. Somebody
Speaker 1: just founded that off in the comments. Well again, I
Speaker 1: think that because um uh one, I don't know that
Speaker 1: to be a fact. But that wouldn't surprise me, right,
Speaker 1: because I do think that. Once again, I personally believe
Speaker 1: in flame. And I've had this conversation offline and I'll
Speaker 1: just share it here because I don't think this is
Speaker 1: a revolutionary in any way at all. I personally believe
Speaker 1: you get the justice you can afford. I personally do
Speaker 1: I think that there are those who move in different
Speaker 1: tax brackets that will never experience, um, the court system,
Speaker 1: uh the way those who are not of means um
Speaker 1: that being African Americans in some cases as well. I
Speaker 1: personally believe were I married to Nicole Brown Simpson, who
Speaker 1: may have allegedly had an affair, who may have allegedly
Speaker 1: been caught with her boyfriend, when I came home and
Speaker 1: had I had footprints leading back to my home and
Speaker 1: my shoe had been found, I don't know that I
Speaker 1: would have gotten away since I am not as wealthy
Speaker 1: as uh Mr Simpson was who was tried and who
Speaker 1: was acquitted. So UM, I don't know that I would
Speaker 1: have earned an acquittal. Um is what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: I want to touch on part of what you just said, Nick,
Speaker 1: because I think a great example we can bring up
Speaker 1: here is Khalif Browder. You mentioned how if somebody gets arrested,
Speaker 1: you know, if you are of a lower income, you
Speaker 1: can't afford bail. So a lot of people end up
Speaker 1: being remanded to actual custody and going to like Rikers Island,
Speaker 1: and that's what happens to Kali Browder and he was
Speaker 1: stuck there for three years because he couldn't afford a
Speaker 1: proper attorney and couldn't afford bail. And and that that
Speaker 1: is the problem I believe with our judicial a system. Um.
Speaker 1: We were talking about this earlier to Flame a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Flame. You will remember there was a
Speaker 1: ballot initiative and I said, Flame, you know that was
Speaker 1: strategic where it was an older African American woman kind
Speaker 1: of looked like my mom. Remember, I said, Flame, that
Speaker 1: that's somebody's mother or auntie. Um. And it was all
Speaker 1: about bail reform in California. You know, you remember what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, Remember, Yeah. And I just thought it
Speaker 1: was such a powerful ad because it was very simple.
Speaker 1: It was something that suggested that uh, trying to come
Speaker 1: up with bail for a family member who may have
Speaker 1: made a mistake until they are actually trying to convict,
Speaker 1: it help me bring them home so that we can
Speaker 1: go through this together. That's what I took away from it,
Speaker 1: Um without them ever saying that, but it made it
Speaker 1: clear that they're to me that they believe. Their argument
Speaker 1: was there are certain groups that have been removed from
Speaker 1: the process of being able to uh advocate at the
Speaker 1: same rate that those who are able to get bail can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and here's the here's another Okay, y'all, don't hate me,
Speaker 1: but here's another situation. So if I own my own home,
Speaker 1: if our own property, if I own a business, and
Speaker 1: I have to put my business on my property up
Speaker 1: to get my friend or my partner, or my wife
Speaker 1: or husband or one of my children out of jail,
Speaker 1: and they break bad on me and I lose my
Speaker 1: my property or my home, which has happened in lots
Speaker 1: of circumstances, and not just in the black community. You know,
Speaker 1: it makes people leary. I'm not gonna put myself in
Speaker 1: that situation again. And I understand about the finances of
Speaker 1: it all. But the privatized prison system is fucked up.
Speaker 1: Let me just say that. And I'm saying on this
Speaker 1: side because when I was in prison, it was I
Speaker 1: was not in the privatized prison, and it wasn't like that.
Speaker 1: This was ninety one, So I was able to pick
Speaker 1: up the phone when I need to use the phone.
Speaker 1: If I had money on my books. I had tons
Speaker 1: of money on the books. I had just robbed the
Speaker 1: damn bank. I had like ten thousand dollars. In my book,
Speaker 1: I was able to go to commissary and do what
Speaker 1: I needed to do. It's not like that anymore. Now
Speaker 1: there's levels and you have to wait for people's number
Speaker 1: to be on there. And and you know, we had
Speaker 1: everybody had a house phone at that time. I still
Speaker 1: had one of my old school but you could call
Speaker 1: collect and you know that you get to collect call
Speaker 1: from someone. So none of that is the truth. Now
Speaker 1: you have to have these cards, and the money has
Speaker 1: to be other cards, and people have to be scrutinized
Speaker 1: through their phone system and it's real personal. Now, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't go to jail now, I'm gonna tell you right now,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do ship that's gonna make me go
Speaker 1: to jail. So see, please, don't nobody made me do
Speaker 1: nothing to make me go to jail, because you know,
Speaker 1: if you crossed the lane, I'm going to jail. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I just want to follow up on that because
Speaker 1: this this this is really interesting. You mentioned that, uh,
Speaker 1: and maybe you can give some insight on this. Do
Speaker 1: you believe the way the system is set up it
Speaker 1: really is built to reform or do you believe that
Speaker 1: that that's a flawed it's it's absolutely built to fail.
Speaker 1: I went in jail because I did for the deceptive practice.
Speaker 1: But I was only in there for forty eight days.
Speaker 1: But in them forty eight days, I learned so many
Speaker 1: new tricks of scam and robbery while I was in there,
Speaker 1: So it was almost like going to school to learn
Speaker 1: more tricks of the trade. Honestly, it really was. It
Speaker 1: was nobody was in We didn't have reform too. You
Speaker 1: know how they said they have their lives in places
Speaker 1: and what is their watch shoot program? THEIGGA twenty three.
Speaker 1: Iur like that we had none of that. We had
Speaker 1: none of that back that's this was ninety one, so
Speaker 1: we didn't have any of those things to teach us
Speaker 1: that when we get out, and then they put the
Speaker 1: X on your back, so you already listened as a criminal.
Speaker 1: You can't get a job. I was never looking for
Speaker 1: a job. I was the entertainer. But think about the
Speaker 1: people who tried to get a job and because they
Speaker 1: made a mistake, they paid their death to society. But
Speaker 1: it was not good enough. They still had the X
Speaker 1: on their back, so they couldn't find jobs. They couldn't
Speaker 1: find work, so they go back to either the crime
Speaker 1: that they learned that they went to jail four originally,
Speaker 1: or the new one that they learned since they've been
Speaker 1: in there. Because you learned a lot of crime in jail,
Speaker 1: because we all we will sit around and tell our stories.
Speaker 1: It's very different. There is not reforming, not in not
Speaker 1: in the Illinois River prison that I was in. I
Speaker 1: don't know about it. And it goes back to what
Speaker 1: you talked about also too. You mentioned this to me
Speaker 1: before you said to me Nick, people are going to
Speaker 1: find a way to survive. Of course that that that
Speaker 1: that's just going to happen. So if I keep knocking
Speaker 1: you down when you get out and I've put this
Speaker 1: X on you and telling you, hey, you're back here,
Speaker 1: but you don't belong to us, you you because of
Speaker 1: that mistake that I said that, We as a society
Speaker 1: said that once you do X, Y and Z, you
Speaker 1: have paid your debt. But now it looks like that
Speaker 1: debt has come with uh an extra tax. Right. Um,
Speaker 1: we we that all of a sudden that wasn't good enough.
Speaker 1: We're still going to marginalize you from employment. We're going
Speaker 1: to marginalize you from being able to vote, and participate
Speaker 1: in civic activities that affect you. So yeah, there, there's definitely,
Speaker 1: there's definitely a double edged sword. And I believe that
Speaker 1: so much of the prison system um is built on
Speaker 1: profit and not necessarily reforming or rehabilitating people. Well, it's
Speaker 1: worse where you're at the South because they have changed
Speaker 1: gangs and they do we don't see, they didn't do
Speaker 1: all that and the knowing you guys had to chain
Speaker 1: gangs and they were doing cheap labor. You know, Uh,
Speaker 1: companies were higher than what do you call the companies
Speaker 1: when you have to do construction. Companies would go through
Speaker 1: the prison to high and even then the movie shall
Speaker 1: Shank redemps. And it's been going on like that in
Speaker 1: certain states and stilly Is for years. Well, I think
Speaker 1: we'll remember now it's not unique to the South California.
Speaker 1: You all employ of federal prisoners on the fire lines.
Speaker 1: If it weren't for prisoners fighting have for these fires
Speaker 1: that you all just had. So I think that every
Speaker 1: state has found a way to monetize the labor of
Speaker 1: those who have been incarcerated. And I don't know that
Speaker 1: just because I'm incarcerated, I should Well, if you help
Speaker 1: work this fire, you'll earn points. Uh yeah, maybe no,
Speaker 1: you know, so it's well, well, part well part of that,
Speaker 1: Nick too, I do have to interrupt you, because they did.
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom just made a change of that where if
Speaker 1: you are helping to fight fires and put in a
Speaker 1: certain number of hours in the state of California, when
Speaker 1: you get out of prison, you can actually apply to
Speaker 1: be on the job now. So right, so things are changing.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna have to agree with Flame and say
Speaker 1: that being in the South is it's very different, I think,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, to be in a prison system. I
Speaker 1: think the best example of that was the movie Life.
Speaker 1: Even though it was supposed to be a comedy, it
Speaker 1: was very real. That's what was happening in the South
Speaker 1: during those times. And I don't know how much of
Speaker 1: that has really changed, because you can still ride through
Speaker 1: the South now and see chain gangs, you can. Uh.
Speaker 1: Just a couple of weeks ago, I was um, I
Speaker 1: had the pleasure of city engagement in progress with the
Speaker 1: number of Trump supporters who were upset that the election
Speaker 1: had been stolen by Joe Biden. So um, not just there.
Speaker 1: I have never felt browner or you know, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, your best flame, what is it? Long
Speaker 1: bang's head down, walk fast, heavy, pal the baby. And
Speaker 1: that's exactly what it was. Absolutely. Here's my thing about
Speaker 1: people continuously going back and forth and back and forth
Speaker 1: and back and forth to prison. I understand that you're
Speaker 1: being a circumstances in situations, but like you said, frequently,
Speaker 1: you're getting points. This ain't freaking fire amounts. You're not
Speaker 1: getting points to where you're gonna fla free. This is
Speaker 1: some ship. I'm not gonna keep going back and forth
Speaker 1: and back and forth to jail if I know that
Speaker 1: this is not for me. And I hate for people
Speaker 1: to tell me what to do. I am very I
Speaker 1: hate for people to tell me what to do when
Speaker 1: I'm grown, and it's ridiculous. I'm not gonna keep going
Speaker 1: back forth to jail. And and I'm sorry to some
Speaker 1: of these brothers who keep saying that the system and
Speaker 1: the man I can't get a break. And that's just
Speaker 1: not black man, that's white ones too, because a lot
Speaker 1: of them keep going back and forth like it's an
Speaker 1: honor to go back and forth and back and forth.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me, first of all, that you like
Speaker 1: Coochie and you keep going back and forth to jail
Speaker 1: because ain't no coochie and jail. Now, we do got
Speaker 1: some prison guys that will put out. Let me just
Speaker 1: say there's some female prison guys that will put out,
Speaker 1: especially in New Jersey, because there was a prison there.
Speaker 1: He had like four and pregny at one time. Four
Speaker 1: prison gulls all about him. I don't know. This is
Speaker 1: the part of let me tell y'all something. You can't
Speaker 1: keep telling me you like girls and you keep going
Speaker 1: back and forth to jail because that girl that you're
Speaker 1: going with in jail ain't no girl. Yeah that's a he.
Speaker 1: She week And I said, what the funk? I said,
Speaker 1: open it up? You all right? You ain't gonna keep
Speaker 1: going back and forth and back and forth, back and forth.
Speaker 1: The deal something. I'm in love with my family. I
Speaker 1: love my woman. I love my your woman. At in
Speaker 1: there with you, I was in there with you, and
Speaker 1: I just went and pee. I guarantee you I ain't
Speaker 1: know a woman. Do you know anybody personally going that
Speaker 1: ever went to prison? May female? Not off the top
Speaker 1: of my head, But I will say I do have
Speaker 1: a couple of family members who are now dead rest
Speaker 1: in peace that probably qualified and made did a bit
Speaker 1: that just wasn't shared. Yeah, it is. It is disheartening.
Speaker 1: And what it hurts. It hurts the family, It hurts
Speaker 1: the children. It is it's sad, you know. And then
Speaker 1: the guy, especially when it's a male, because especially when
Speaker 1: it's even male, because women lose their children. Because I'll
Speaker 1: be watching Snapped and I'll be watching all these shows
Speaker 1: where the women go to prison and their children are
Speaker 1: spread out. I could not imagine not knowing what is
Speaker 1: happening with my kids, you know. It's it's that's that
Speaker 1: has to be tough, especially on imagine having a baby
Speaker 1: in jail, you know, then they take your baby. You
Speaker 1: don't even get a chance to bond. Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: it's it's scary, it's scary. It's crazy. Uh, don't do
Speaker 1: the crime. They said you won't do the time. But
Speaker 1: what about when you're innocent. Well that's what's interesting. You know,
Speaker 1: what do you do in that instance when you can't
Speaker 1: afford to have an attorney that can actually look into
Speaker 1: your case and take interest in you. What do you do? Then?
Speaker 1: Go find me. I'm gonna start to go fund me page.
Speaker 1: But those always don't pan out, Well, if you don't
Speaker 1: get the traction and recognition that you know, somebody popular would,
Speaker 1: So what do you do? Damn, Lord, don't put me
Speaker 1: on the spot. You know, I don't know, girl, you don't.
Speaker 1: I'm blowing up whether it is blowing and see what
Speaker 1: they think. So we're gonna let you introduce our next
Speaker 1: topic next that you can't be here in person. You
Speaker 1: bringing up the next topic. The last the actual last
Speaker 1: topic is the vaccine. We're not talking about that to
Speaker 1: actually the last. Dare we open it up to ask
Speaker 1: people what they think about the latest headline with Governor
Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo. UM, you know, just just to let everybody
Speaker 1: know what we're talking about. You and I had this
Speaker 1: conversation yesterday UH that we found a little bit UH troubling.
Speaker 1: It turns out, most recently what is making the headlines
Speaker 1: in New York UH the former stafford has accused governor
Speaker 1: of sexually harassing her for years now. Governor Cuomo denies this.
Speaker 1: The accusation comes as President elect Biden considers Cuomo for
Speaker 1: a cabinet position Department of Justice, and the accuser UH
Speaker 1: is Lindsay Boylan and she's running for UH, an elected
Speaker 1: office there in New York. But she says that this
Speaker 1: went on for years, um, you know, and it has
Speaker 1: a lot of people upset in New York because they're
Speaker 1: asking um a lot of questions and asking why maybe
Speaker 1: she didn't raise the issue before now because you know,
Speaker 1: out it was two thousand fifteen, right when her standing
Speaker 1: office that she worked with and now we just had
Speaker 1: about made a very valid point. I hit you out
Speaker 1: with this point that she brought yesterday. So this this
Speaker 1: is how I feel. I think that all women should
Speaker 1: be heard. If they make the accusation, it should all
Speaker 1: it should be taken, you know. Seriously. However, my concern
Speaker 1: is the timing why now? And I've seen a couple
Speaker 1: of people in the comments say the same thing. Because
Speaker 1: Trump is on his way out. We know for a
Speaker 1: fact that he and Andrew Como have not gotten along
Speaker 1: for these past four years, especially since after COVID hit.
Speaker 1: They're constantly going back and forth. So while of a
Speaker 1: sudden is there an accuser now, and and he's had
Speaker 1: this long, outstanding career, and all of a sudden we
Speaker 1: have this accuser on the midst of all that's happening.
Speaker 1: It's it looks a little odd to me, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. However, if she has facts, she has receipts,
Speaker 1: I think she could present her case. But I am
Speaker 1: a little skeptical. What's her name, lindsay boy la fact
Speaker 1: picture of it? Let me see what she looks like? Yes,
Speaker 1: because you know they say who she ain't got no face?
Speaker 1: But let me but everybody get their drawn points. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you right now, let me start. And I think
Speaker 1: to just to echo what Laurence said. You know, we
Speaker 1: talked about women, but also men. I think that anyone
Speaker 1: UM who has UM a story to share should be
Speaker 1: able to share that story. UM. I think that UM,
Speaker 1: it is also a difficult burden to tell people when
Speaker 1: they should tell their story. UM. I think that sometimes
Speaker 1: people uh feel more secure in theirselfs in their position
Speaker 1: when they feel like they can come forward, or maybe
Speaker 1: they takes a while to get the strength. We know
Speaker 1: those who are adult men who still have trauma from
Speaker 1: their experience in the Catholic Church. So I would I
Speaker 1: would suggest that it is possible that it's a difficult
Speaker 1: position to be in and then to come forward and
Speaker 1: then to have your story question. Let me just say,
Speaker 1: what ain't nobody else gonna say it's a fucking scam
Speaker 1: is running the Boston She's must be Trump didn't promised
Speaker 1: her son. Trump is on such a war path on
Speaker 1: his way out that that's why he's pushing his execution,
Speaker 1: because his career has just been killed with him not
Speaker 1: being president nobody. He is four d and twenty million
Speaker 1: dollars worth of dead. He can't get money from anyone,
Speaker 1: He can't borrow money from anyone. All the money that
Speaker 1: he has has now is what they have fornagled in
Speaker 1: the last four years since he has become president. Because
Speaker 1: I think this is the richest that he has ever
Speaker 1: been in his whole career, including what is the money
Speaker 1: his daddy gave him before when he was the last
Speaker 1: because the daddy was the gangster. Understand that Trump is
Speaker 1: nothing the daddy Don John was a gangster for real.
Speaker 1: We have we we've seen reports where even uh Mary Trump,
Speaker 1: his his sister um uh the former justice out of Philadelphia. Um,
Speaker 1: she has talked about how uh Donald wasn't the smartest
Speaker 1: one in the family and that was partly what their
Speaker 1: father would talk about as well. And more than that,
Speaker 1: I think less the executions. Um. I think that if
Speaker 1: we want to maybe um uh, step back and take
Speaker 1: a look at why is the president possibly doing something.
Speaker 1: I think that it's fair to ask why decisions around
Speaker 1: preemptive pardons are being considered, you know, including for himself,
Speaker 1: including for himself, for himself, and that's illegal. It's a
Speaker 1: legal I've seen the study that say it's illegal for
Speaker 1: him to partner himself. But we're gonna get back to
Speaker 1: Cuomo because let me tell you what's gonna happen on
Speaker 1: the receiving end. Because Chris what his fan is, Chris Cuomo, Hebrew.
Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo is very, very family oriented. He does not
Speaker 1: like anyone attacking his brother Andrew. He restricts him and
Speaker 1: he calls him the government of New York. But when
Speaker 1: you personally attack his family, baby, when I tell you
Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo gonna hand to our ass tonight, don't see anything.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be watching. And when Chris Cuomo get angry,
Speaker 1: his as get a deep, deep green and he swelled
Speaker 1: up like a big Italian. Oh. It just does something
Speaker 1: to me, you know. Uh, it's it's um, it's tough.
Speaker 1: I am interested in um uh you know, lindsay, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: miss I don't. I don't know her a picture of
Speaker 1: She's very average looking, not to say she's bad looking,
Speaker 1: but she not. She not shaking it up like that.
Speaker 1: She ain't no flameing row. Let me just say. And
Speaker 1: I want her to have space to share her story,
Speaker 1: and I hope that she is uh finding a space
Speaker 1: to heal. If she isn't, hasn't he been victimized? And
Speaker 1: was it just me? Because Nick, when you read the story,
Speaker 1: were you a little confused at first with her tweets?
Speaker 1: Because I was, yeah, because initially she brought her mom
Speaker 1: into it and said this was something her mom would
Speaker 1: never experience and she was pushed into a wall and kissed,
Speaker 1: and but it was about her, So I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: who's the accusation against this is your mother? Is a you? Hey, ladies,
Speaker 1: well hello, gorgeous T T j Ann. Can you hear me? Okay,
Speaker 1: I hear you? Just fan. I see you got your
Speaker 1: mask around your neck. You are doing a T T
Speaker 1: j N. Yes, yes, but actually it's cold. Here's my sweater.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm I'm sighting with you guys. I
Speaker 1: do smell a rat and it's not unusual, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Because although these things were put in
Speaker 1: place to protect women like to be heard to provide
Speaker 1: a platform here recently, as soon as variables are put
Speaker 1: in place. Two, you don't give the injured or the
Speaker 1: victims a platform. It's the rich white men and women
Speaker 1: who take advantage of it. Because if this was an issue,
Speaker 1: she would have said something long before now. And not
Speaker 1: only that, because I do know that you have to
Speaker 1: heal within your own time. Um. But it's right when
Speaker 1: all these people, him and Biden, I'll say, came up
Speaker 1: to their their platforms, that even the young lady who
Speaker 1: said that she he would come up, Biden would come
Speaker 1: up behind her and kiss her or whatever. It's always
Speaker 1: you know, used as a distraction. And you know it's
Speaker 1: coming from the Republicans because they use these tools. They
Speaker 1: don't want to help victims. They want to see people
Speaker 1: who don't have a lot of power sucked up in assessible.
Speaker 1: So these things are put in place. How long has
Speaker 1: or was Harvey abusing these women? I mean some men
Speaker 1: came out and spoke up for women who had been
Speaker 1: abused by Harvey. But when we got bick splashes, then
Speaker 1: you saw all these people in the floodgates just kicked open.
Speaker 1: So this none of this behavior is surprised that she
Speaker 1: knew that she would be heard before Lauren or myself.
Speaker 1: But now it's a topic because of the staging of
Speaker 1: the time. Let her have her time. But something needs
Speaker 1: to be in place to look at these people who
Speaker 1: are abusing these these these platforms, because there are wounded
Speaker 1: parties out there. Kumo has been the perfect ex husband
Speaker 1: and ex boyfriend said by his ex girlfriend and wife.
Speaker 1: I mean, his girlfriend is a breast cancer survivor and
Speaker 1: he took her, picked her up and nursed her back
Speaker 1: to health. He didn't have to do all that as
Speaker 1: an ex, so you know, And I'm not saying because
Speaker 1: sometimes we can be cards on women. She don't look
Speaker 1: like this, she don't look like that, but she probably
Speaker 1: wanted him her dreams to get up with Kumo and
Speaker 1: he never blinked at or twice that I kind of
Speaker 1: feel that way too. And I'm just saying, if these
Speaker 1: accusations are accurate, where are the text messages? Is their emails?
Speaker 1: It was there a witness, Just where's the proof? Where's
Speaker 1: the video? Where's the picks? Like, where's the dick picking?
Speaker 1: If you ain't got a dick pick and if you
Speaker 1: got a big dick just to what Jeff Bezos did.
Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos maybe that when I was opening at other
Speaker 1: albums closed, he said, show you know, where is it at?
Speaker 1: But I see somebody crying for attention that he never
Speaker 1: looked twice at. But I also think too though, in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, this is my opinion again that
Speaker 1: because all of the you know, sexual assault allegations came
Speaker 1: out against Trump, I do feel like sometimes they use
Speaker 1: that kind of as a way to get back at
Speaker 1: Democrats and say, oh, look they're doing the same thing
Speaker 1: of what you accused our forever president of. You know.
Speaker 1: So I think there's also that, you know, well, let's
Speaker 1: let's even the playing field here, which is so unfortunate
Speaker 1: to use a topic like sexual assault to be kind
Speaker 1: of like that toy thing that we can just play
Speaker 1: with when it's a really serious matter. There's a serious matter.
Speaker 1: But look how many people got taken notice when the
Speaker 1: floodgate for the meat too movement came about. There was
Speaker 1: a largely a lot of white men who got called
Speaker 1: on the carpet. Black men too. But oh yeah, don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but largely you had a lot of
Speaker 1: rich white men. And so they're angry about that because
Speaker 1: they're wise, the people in the in the office, everybody
Speaker 1: knew about this, but there it came to a point
Speaker 1: in in time that it was not going to be
Speaker 1: ignored anymore. I mean, it's so right now people are
Speaker 1: angry and they just use it the way they want to,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, how does somebody want to
Speaker 1: know if it's you know, uh racial um if the
Speaker 1: guy the jack Jake Paul got knocked out the the
Speaker 1: athlete in the in the first and so now they're
Speaker 1: posting a question, was that was that a racial deal?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, how to use the verbage. I
Speaker 1: think people use it wrong because they are angry that
Speaker 1: we're taking notice to what has long been going on.
Speaker 1: Cormo knew what he was doing to help New York,
Speaker 1: to help his city, and he did everything that he
Speaker 1: needed to do. And it's and it showed Trump up.
Speaker 1: And now here's this rushstass vaccine and Cuomo still has
Speaker 1: his own man. Cuomo is an independent thinker. To now
Speaker 1: look at the difference with Cuomo in New York and
Speaker 1: the Santis in Florida, who all who went along with
Speaker 1: everything that Trump said, look at Kemp and Georgia who
Speaker 1: now Trump and threw him up under the bus. It's bullshit.
Speaker 1: I hear you what you're saying. And back to the
Speaker 1: whole me too thing, because Terry Crews came out and
Speaker 1: said the man walked up to him in front of
Speaker 1: his wife and took his hands and put it down
Speaker 1: his pants and grabbed his junk. First of all, Terry Crews,
Speaker 1: you you let that happen because you're a big ass
Speaker 1: black man. You should have punched the ship out of Execondly,
Speaker 1: your wife was standing there. If she is gangster, she said,
Speaker 1: she would she should have jumped in, which both y'all
Speaker 1: should have whipped his ass on the red corpet. Now
Speaker 1: that I would have paid money for that. I would
Speaker 1: have paid money to that. Well, t J and thank
Speaker 1: you for traming in. You know, we always look forward
Speaker 1: to get your insight, lady. I want to say that, though,
Speaker 1: but Jim made a point about whole this wold me
Speaker 1: too things. I love that they had the marches and
Speaker 1: so many women were recognized for what was happening with
Speaker 1: that going on. But like what she said about Gariel
Speaker 1: Union and Terry Crews, I don't like defense riding as
Speaker 1: me because I don't know what Terry crew stands. I
Speaker 1: don't you know. You you one day, you hear, the
Speaker 1: next day, you hear the next day. I just need
Speaker 1: you to make up your mind. And but sometimes I
Speaker 1: think it's also too for media attention that he did
Speaker 1: that he just wanted some attention. I don't understand that ignorant.
Speaker 1: He made some ignorant comments regarding race. It was just
Speaker 1: a period of time or Terry Crews just made a
Speaker 1: lot of dumb comments and after a while you were
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, you're just seeking some attention here, that's
Speaker 1: all this is. Well, maybe you need to Maybe he
Speaker 1: needs something that he ain't getting at home. What y'all
Speaker 1: think he needs. I ain't gonna see it out loud,
Speaker 1: but I want to see it. But I don't want
Speaker 1: to get my show kills something. You know, I say
Speaker 1: something ship and don't give two funks with Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 1: I just want to applaud Andrew Komo for at least
Speaker 1: sticking to his guns and what he thought because he
Speaker 1: was he is then of New York. The decisions that
Speaker 1: he made for his state was from him, not from
Speaker 1: the top who made bad decisions, and that's the sensis.
Speaker 1: Let me just say, if you ever watched SpongeBob SquarePants,
Speaker 1: Patrick the Starfish is the dumbest person got damn up
Speaker 1: to see baby, let me tell you something. The statist
Speaker 1: reminds me of, uh, what's his name? Reminds you of
Speaker 1: Patrick Starr reminds me of Patrick the star from SpongeBob
Speaker 1: square dumbest shit and all you Floridians that follow him
Speaker 1: interesting too, because if you think about the Cuomo and
Speaker 1: the rest of your ran Trump out of there he lives.
Speaker 1: They only want that. Hi down, you look good, Hi
Speaker 1: don Hey, how y'all doing? You joined us? We need
Speaker 1: your intake on Cuomo. I'm just hearing about it because
Speaker 1: I've been driving all day when you talked about it,
Speaker 1: and I agree with t t Jan said. But this
Speaker 1: day and age, why isn't that these women can't handle
Speaker 1: these men? When a man us out of land with you,
Speaker 1: you handle him. Now, what's what's exactly handling? Okay, I
Speaker 1: can insult you and talk about you, that's one way
Speaker 1: and another way how I handle it. Either you're gonna
Speaker 1: stop right now and we're gonna pretend like it didn't happen,
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna come out and you're gonna be paying
Speaker 1: me for the rest of your life. But that doesn't
Speaker 1: always worked on because look, Anita Hell was on This
Speaker 1: happened twenty five years ago with Anita Hell with what's
Speaker 1: this what's his name? With Clarence this day and age
Speaker 1: flame now. But we just had the same situation with
Speaker 1: Brett Cavanaugh and the professor that came out against him.
Speaker 1: He still got elected to the Spreme Court over again.
Speaker 1: See doing everybody ain't as keisha as you, So you
Speaker 1: ready get keisha and square up? And what about a
Speaker 1: timid woman? What about a woman who had don't have
Speaker 1: the surety that you have, and somebody's just taking advantage
Speaker 1: of her on a regular time. So what about that
Speaker 1: you alone? And that comes from your mother or whoever
Speaker 1: raised you. Because I know your mom, so I know
Speaker 1: your mom is a beat So I know you're going
Speaker 1: to speak up and stand up. Those are the children
Speaker 1: I raised. But what about the women who are insecure
Speaker 1: and who are afraid of losing that situation, which is
Speaker 1: their job? What about them? You know who's going to
Speaker 1: speak on that? And so nobody's gonna believe them because
Speaker 1: you're timid and you mealy mouth and you're scared. That's
Speaker 1: why you need to speak up for yourself. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I think to your point though, for some one minute
Speaker 1: is hard, you know what I mean. And then it's
Speaker 1: when when you do speak up to my original point
Speaker 1: is are you believed? You know, it's kind of turns
Speaker 1: into it he said, she said, and then it's like
Speaker 1: your credibility is on the line. So it's it's a
Speaker 1: really touchy subject. But in this instance, I will say specifically,
Speaker 1: I'm on the fence. I don't know if I believe her.
Speaker 1: That's just my pH. I ain't on thefense. I don't
Speaker 1: believe that beat you. Let me be clear, I am
Speaker 1: not all the fence. I don't believe her. I'm back
Speaker 1: to you out on the timing. If this eighteen, then
Speaker 1: why you didn't say nothing in eighteen when you position
Speaker 1: and you're bringing this up when you're running for a
Speaker 1: state position in office? Now, which partisanship is that? Is
Speaker 1: that she running for Republican or Democrat? You know what?
Speaker 1: Let me look that up because Republican. Then I understand that,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're running for this position because you're trying
Speaker 1: to get in because you know, Trump is on his
Speaker 1: way out. And uh to all the Supreme Court justices,
Speaker 1: even the ones that I don't care for. Right now,
Speaker 1: I love all y'all because y'all told that Nigga not know,
Speaker 1: but he'll know. She's a Democrat. She all, she's a Democrat. Also,
Speaker 1: she got a check. I wonder she get the same
Speaker 1: check that little Wayne and Kanye got because they all
Speaker 1: got a check to Uh, they got a check to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this and we're gonna do that. I
Speaker 1: did get a check Cuba's back defended himself all of
Speaker 1: a sudden. Who knows who knows? Because you know, he
Speaker 1: technically lied. He said that nobody reached out to him, honey,
Speaker 1: please from the Biden Harris team, and which wasn't true. Baby.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something y'all have to make a
Speaker 1: decision with you. Is why we have been caught up
Speaker 1: in the slave metality for so long a lot of
Speaker 1: times they didn't know what was going on with us.
Speaker 1: We told on ourselves. We're still telling on our damn salves.
Speaker 1: I ain't telling my people and all the blacks that
Speaker 1: then crossed over white folks y'all can have them. Kanye
Speaker 1: little Waane. You know he's facing ten years in prison.
Speaker 1: Yes I do. And he just let me show you
Speaker 1: how smart little Wayne is. He told y'all to hold
Speaker 1: y'all vote and vote for Trump. This nigga just sold
Speaker 1: his masters. He sold and he's rich supposedly, but he
Speaker 1: sold his masters. Who sells their masters when you already rich.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you somebody is drinking cough served they
Speaker 1: drinking night quill, but they might need to drink day
Speaker 1: quill because they've been sleeping to God, his slow ass
Speaker 1: if he don't know what's up. Candice owns, y'all can
Speaker 1: have them. We don't want them back. Y'all can have
Speaker 1: those black people. We don't want them back. Give me
Speaker 1: the beach that was running the nuble, a CP that
Speaker 1: was pretending to be us for years because she never
Speaker 1: doing something bother the bus. She just pretended to be
Speaker 1: a black sister. What was her name? Remember they caught? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: those Yeah, we'll take her. Y'all can have them. Ship.
Speaker 1: I don't want help where you ad Nick James? Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, let me bring James because James said they
Speaker 1: are burning flags in DC, writing the Proud Boys are
Speaker 1: fighting with Black Lives Matter folks. Yeah, I've been seeing
Speaker 1: that all over social media because James is in DC. James, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's I've seen a lot of videos of just the
Speaker 1: Proud Boys. They went to a historic, you know, black church.
Speaker 1: They ripped down a Black Lives Matter banner and lit
Speaker 1: it up and set it on. I got a question
Speaker 1: whether black people in the church n see that you
Speaker 1: got right there because they go on to Sunday morning
Speaker 1: into a black church and for that ship with black
Speaker 1: pruisitions are in there because you think they saved. Black
Speaker 1: folks will come out there and get jiggy with your ass,
Speaker 1: with the whole armor of God against that ass. Baby.
Speaker 1: But what was being said was it was interesting. There
Speaker 1: was no police, there was no tear gas, nobody was
Speaker 1: breaking it up. Now, if it was just a group
Speaker 1: of Black Lives Matter protesters, they were like, this would
Speaker 1: have aren't been the same situation. Police would have been everywhere,
Speaker 1: people would have been tear gas. And that's not what happened.
Speaker 1: We're still living in the damn racist as country. What's
Speaker 1: gonna happen when he leaves? The racism gonna stay? Of course,
Speaker 1: it is because guess what, They're just gonna go back
Speaker 1: in the closet. They're just gonna go back in the closet.
Speaker 1: But you know, Lauren, I'm gonna say this. I think
Speaker 1: that what's also interesting when they have these demonstrations like that, Um,
Speaker 1: for anybody, I'm trying to give you the perfect analogy.
Speaker 1: But where this happened, um is downtown d C. And
Speaker 1: anyone who lives in d C will tell you, UM
Speaker 1: that they really wanted to make a point. They could
Speaker 1: have gone right to Prince George's county, they could have
Speaker 1: gone to Anacostia. They were very selective and where they
Speaker 1: chose to show their outrage. So they ain't crazy, they
Speaker 1: just want you crazy. It's the flaming would be analogous
Speaker 1: to oh, we're gonna tear stuff up on Michigan Avenue. Well,
Speaker 1: why don't you come on over the king, come on
Speaker 1: over here. Uh, we're gonna we're gonna stay on down
Speaker 1: here and talk about why, Uh you know Mr Chump
Speaker 1: should be president. You're you're selective in your outrage and
Speaker 1: where you choose is that is that the word that
Speaker 1: we're using, selective or you know you're gonna get your
Speaker 1: ass handed to you. Let me just say what y'all
Speaker 1: need to be heard. They will get the ass handed
Speaker 1: to them coming in those in daytime or in nighttime,
Speaker 1: because we're not afraid anymore. We're not running and hiding.
Speaker 1: We're not running from your your water hoses and your dogs.
Speaker 1: We got some ship to slow you down. It's called
Speaker 1: hand jewelry. If you're not familiar, absolutely, because you know,
Speaker 1: listen you when you are doing all of this that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just throw it out there. If you're a
Speaker 1: fourteenth in k uh, anybody who lives in d C
Speaker 1: would tell you there's nothing there but businesses. You weren't
Speaker 1: trying to make a statement. You know where you could
Speaker 1: have gone if you really wanted to shake some things up.
Speaker 1: And that's not what they did at all. They were
Speaker 1: they were very they knew exactly what they were and
Speaker 1: we're not doing Wait a minute, it's fourteenth in k
Speaker 1: Isn't that the host rohitrification? Oh yeah, but I am
Speaker 1: I knew that was a hostro for personal reasons. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I did know. I knew some corners over this.
Speaker 1: There's a very lovely Italian restaurant that I like on
Speaker 1: the fourteen streets you. So, yeah, it's all changed a bit,
Speaker 1: so their outrage. Uh, I'll be into to know what
Speaker 1: James has to say. When James comes back with his headphones,
Speaker 1: let me know and I'll get on out of here.
Speaker 1: But he's absolutely right. They knew what they were doing. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm telling you this is what I
Speaker 1: know having lived in d C. They knew that being
Speaker 1: down there, they were outraged and upset and we're breaking
Speaker 1: things that. Um, if they really want to do it up,
Speaker 1: they could have gone to different districts. They chose not
Speaker 1: to do that. Um, they chose to engage with police
Speaker 1: instead of engaging against people that they have been marginalizing
Speaker 1: and calling out and blaming for um, President Trump's loss.
Speaker 1: So there you go. But a couple of fights did
Speaker 1: break out though, because some Black Lives Matter protesters did
Speaker 1: show up and there are some fights. I saw some
Speaker 1: videos and I think like two people got arrested last night. Sure,
Speaker 1: but but but you get the gist of what You're right.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. They know where to go. Look yeahll know,
Speaker 1: look ye'ah all know what to do. I literally I
Speaker 1: reposted it on my Instagram because I thought it was
Speaker 1: so funny. You know how you get on the internet
Speaker 1: and it kind of sucks you in, and somebody posted
Speaker 1: Joe Biden has won this election so many times. He's
Speaker 1: the sixties seventh and you know they're counting the electoral
Speaker 1: votes right now to so today's d Day with the
Speaker 1: election officially so, and I please count it in English, Spanish, German, uh, Yugoslavian,
Speaker 1: broliving all that, because guess what, nigga, in every language
Speaker 1: you lose. James, what's your guy going on down there
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. I So the gist of what
Speaker 1: I've been able to get out of it is that
Speaker 1: obviously that there was another pro Trump protests this weekend
Speaker 1: that was much smaller than one last month, but it
Speaker 1: had much larger numbers of Proud Boys in the area.
Speaker 1: And they were marching in between the capital in the
Speaker 1: White House National Model Area, and the police had Black
Speaker 1: Lives Matter Plausa corned off because they thought that was
Speaker 1: a place that they were area they were going to target.
Speaker 1: And apparently because they had that corned off the Black
Speaker 1: are the Proud Boys started getting a little upsets, started splintering,
Speaker 1: basically essentially looking for trouble, and which is when I
Speaker 1: mean what Lauren talked about, she saw some of the
Speaker 1: fights breaking out. That's when some of these groups started
Speaker 1: splintering off and intentionally going to counter protesters, looking to antagonize.
Speaker 1: Twentiessothing people got arrested, four people were stabbed in critical condition.
Speaker 1: Two police officers are also in critical condition this weekend.
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, they intentionally targeted a
Speaker 1: row of businesses and churches, but specifically caused vandalism to churches,
Speaker 1: two of which were of historic black colleges or college. Jesus,
Speaker 1: my brain is not working today. Churches, and I mean
Speaker 1: with the Luthering church that's in the area, they basically
Speaker 1: just torn down signs and tried to intimidate some of
Speaker 1: the pressures out front. But with the Black churches, they
Speaker 1: basically took it to a whole another level. Or one
Speaker 1: of them, they tore down the side and marsh with
Speaker 1: it on the street, shouting this is our streets, and
Speaker 1: then eventually stomped on the Black Lives banner banner. The
Speaker 1: other church had a banner and a sign they tore
Speaker 1: down that vandalized a little bit of the church, then
Speaker 1: lit the banner on fire in front of the church
Speaker 1: and took video of it. Yeah, that's the video that
Speaker 1: I saw. Here's my issue with that, James, I knew
Speaker 1: you a white man. You know I love you to deaf.
Speaker 1: James is the manager d C Comedy Lift. I be
Speaker 1: then mate thirteen through the fifteen shameless plug. Let me
Speaker 1: just push you any who uh they know when they
Speaker 1: know to go to those black churches when they closed,
Speaker 1: because if you ever thought of black church and black
Speaker 1: folks was only in love with God and Christian disrupt
Speaker 1: their service, they will they will do some damage to
Speaker 1: your ass. So they knew to go when it was closed. Second,
Speaker 1: about if the Proud boys are in d C. I
Speaker 1: bet you the rent boys are making tons of money
Speaker 1: because you're the proud boys. Like dicks up they asked
Speaker 1: the ram boys is the ones that they turn the
Speaker 1: trick with. I bet you if you check the ass
Speaker 1: that the ring boys have made tons and tons of
Speaker 1: money off the proud boys because they're proud boys at night,
Speaker 1: but they're proud ladies in the daytime. I said what
Speaker 1: I said, they ain't gonna do ship to me because
Speaker 1: I'm ready for you. Come over here. Proudly. They're gonna
Speaker 1: carry you away, and I'm gonna be standing proud with
Speaker 1: me ship. But I mean it's just I mean even
Speaker 1: just not even beyond the optics. I mean basically a
Speaker 1: modern day cross burning in front of a church, and
Speaker 1: nothing that they can do is going to make the
Speaker 1: outcome any different. He has lost so many times they
Speaker 1: keep recounting and recounting, which is costing taxpayers money. And
Speaker 1: then it's just ridiculous. He lost. They don't want to
Speaker 1: accept defeat. But it's over. Yeah, but he's he's won
Speaker 1: one case which didn't win him any votes. They were
Speaker 1: uncounted ballots, and he's lost in the neighborhood of about
Speaker 1: sixty cases. Well, even the recounting that he you know
Speaker 1: said needed to happen in Georgia, and Georgia Biden ended
Speaker 1: up getting more votes after the recounts happened. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: we already said the electoral colleges in the midst of
Speaker 1: voting right now, so this will be finalized today, it'll
Speaker 1: befal means California, it's California transmit snares, which they start
Speaker 1: either actually they should be starting right now. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: within the next hour, they'll transmit their ballots and then
Speaker 1: that's that's the end of the game. And we're yeah,
Speaker 1: and we know California ain't voting for him, California all
Speaker 1: the way blue. I mean, he got some people here.
Speaker 1: I remember election night it said five percent of the
Speaker 1: vote was in and they had already called it for
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. California. Yeah, you ain't got none coming out
Speaker 1: of California because the whole next the next step of
Speaker 1: this process is that both Houses of the Um, both
Speaker 1: chambers vote on January six, whether they accept the votes.
Speaker 1: It's just a simple majority in each chamber and it
Speaker 1: only takes and it would take both chambers to basically
Speaker 1: overturn the election. And there's no way the House by
Speaker 1: itself is going to do that when it's majority Democrats. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, it's done it over with all.
Speaker 1: It's just rhetoric between now and then at this point. Yeah, well, James,
Speaker 1: thank you. You stay safe down there. But you know
Speaker 1: I'm coming, y'all keep the DC comedy. I'm open because
Speaker 1: Mother is coming. Mother voucher. It doesn't matter when week open,
Speaker 1: not if we opens, Well open up now. I'm telling
Speaker 1: me you gotta tell me I gotta take a vaccine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see you what they call a hologram because
Speaker 1: I ain't with the vaccine. Thank you, James my Darling.
Speaker 1: Y'all follow James at DC Comedy Love. That's a great
Speaker 1: place to be when they open back up, you'll meet
Speaker 1: me there. Uh So, vaccine, Lauren, let's bring in Nick.
Speaker 1: That's this last topic of the vaccine, very very scary. Yes,
Speaker 1: you see his name there, he is right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I can see that you did hit some requests, okay,
Speaker 1: because you know my blandness can't see here. So yeah.
Speaker 1: So with the whole vaccine thing, we see that they
Speaker 1: having it out. It's early as today and tomorrow. Right,
Speaker 1: people have been on TV all morning getting vaccinated. I've
Speaker 1: been watching it all morning. Okay. Let first let me
Speaker 1: say let me start off as saying this, I'm not
Speaker 1: taking it. Okay, let me see it again. I'm not
Speaker 1: taking it. How about you, Lauren, I'm not taking it.
Speaker 1: I told you I don't get a flu shot. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't get a flu shot. Let me just say
Speaker 1: that I understand that certain you know, vaccinations are required,
Speaker 1: but anything with the name ached attached to it of
Speaker 1: operation warp speed does not make me feel that sounds
Speaker 1: like some some sat Fast saying vaccines take five years
Speaker 1: to develop and this one was developed in nine months.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Yeah. The challenge with all of this
Speaker 1: is m I believe the messaging right. UM, I personally
Speaker 1: will indeed get vaccinated. Right. I feel like I have
Speaker 1: responsibility to do that. Um. UM. I have family members
Speaker 1: are older, I have family members who have comorbidities. I
Speaker 1: don't move into space where I get to only think
Speaker 1: about me, so I will take the vaccine. I also
Speaker 1: believe that UM. African Americans are sometimes put in groups
Speaker 1: where we're afraid of everything. Oh lord, we we we
Speaker 1: don't swim. We we're afraid to be in the rain.
Speaker 1: We And I think a lot of that is meant
Speaker 1: to in many ways make us seem like UM, flat earthers. UM.
Speaker 1: Guess what. I do believe the world is round, UM.
Speaker 1: I do believe in science. I do believe that two
Speaker 1: plus two equals four. UM. I do believe also, UM,
Speaker 1: that God is real. So I think that we can
Speaker 1: be a lot of different things. I also believe that
Speaker 1: in many times, UM, the tougher decisions are the ones
Speaker 1: where we sometimes have to take the lead and and
Speaker 1: and sometimes stand up UM. And I believe that my community,
Speaker 1: which continues to be decimated by this virus, needs people
Speaker 1: like me who are UM, moving, walking, having a platform
Speaker 1: UM to speak and try to be a positive influence
Speaker 1: uh for for the change that we need, particularly since
Speaker 1: it is my community and people who look like me
Speaker 1: who are being disproportionately affected by this virus. I hear
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Nicklas, and I'm gonna I'm gonna oppose
Speaker 1: everything that you see it as far as when it
Speaker 1: comes down to black people, it's being or we're afraid
Speaker 1: of this, or we might we don't swim. I'm not
Speaker 1: taking it for my for the reasons that I want you.
Speaker 1: I'm not concerned about I'm somebody else's feelings. I am
Speaker 1: concerned about my children, but I take the precautions to
Speaker 1: protect my children and people around me, starting with the
Speaker 1: lightsol what have you. I'm not gonna let nobody tell
Speaker 1: me or with black people are slow, because it kind
Speaker 1: of sounded like you threw us up under the bus
Speaker 1: to say black people were kind of done, We're kind
Speaker 1: of behind the time. When have they given us anything first?
Speaker 1: We've still been waiting on our forty acres and the
Speaker 1: mules since they brought us over here. And Emancipation Proclamation
Speaker 1: was saying in eighteen sixty six or sixty seven, Funk
Speaker 1: that I don't trust them. I don't trust it because
Speaker 1: from the top and from the very beginning, there have
Speaker 1: been too many stories. You cannot muddy the waters with me.
Speaker 1: I don't like fence riters. It's either this or it
Speaker 1: is that. There is no in between. We're never first
Speaker 1: for anything. I'm not going to allow you to put
Speaker 1: something in me operation warp speed, like Laurence said, that
Speaker 1: sounds like a science project, because I want to procreate.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid that they are trying to do a Tuskego
Speaker 1: experiment on me, because we we didn't find about the
Speaker 1: about the Tuskegee experiment until many years after. So now
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to let you inject some ship in me,
Speaker 1: and then we found out thirty years four years down
Speaker 1: the line. Oh it wasn't good. Your children can't have children.
Speaker 1: You're growing a damn plant out the back of your neck. No,
Speaker 1: thank you, I'm cool. I'll take my chances if I
Speaker 1: can't work, then I can't work. If I can't travel,
Speaker 1: then I can't travel. But I will not be used
Speaker 1: as a science experiment. After sitting in my house for
Speaker 1: ten months, I haven't been on stage in ten months
Speaker 1: because of the lack of judgment from administration. That you
Speaker 1: guys were so angry. Let's go back to the source
Speaker 1: and to the root of this. These races were so
Speaker 1: angry that President Barack Obama, black man, did a good
Speaker 1: job for eight years straight. Nothing you can say to
Speaker 1: find anything bad about this man that y'all put a
Speaker 1: fucking clown in the office that allowed you all to
Speaker 1: be able to speak and be who you wanted him
Speaker 1: to be, because he will say how you really feel
Speaker 1: because you can't say publicly. So all this racism and
Speaker 1: hate has come out, then you get this inadequate, asked
Speaker 1: Dr Dr Fauci, who everybody seems to trust, including Biden,
Speaker 1: who was a part of the AIDS experience in the eighties,
Speaker 1: who pushed a z T to kill so many people,
Speaker 1: so many people die because they said a z T
Speaker 1: will kill AIDS. That was the truth. It killed AIDS.
Speaker 1: What it all the reason that killed AIDS? Because it
Speaker 1: killed you so you died with the AIDS, But the
Speaker 1: AIDS kept spreading and spreading and spread. I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: just not up for the guinea pig. I'm not an experiment.
Speaker 1: I got enough ship going on. I don't want to experiment.
Speaker 1: I got fake titise, bas silicon. All that come out
Speaker 1: well for me. Like I said, it's it's it's the
Speaker 1: title that makes me weary. Operation works. But in general,
Speaker 1: I'm wary of all vaccines. I remember when the HPV
Speaker 1: vaccine came out. You had to do a series of
Speaker 1: three shots. I was wary of that. You know, every
Speaker 1: vaccine that has ever come out, it has caused you know,
Speaker 1: people to kind of panic that I don't want to
Speaker 1: take it. However, I think what's different about this one
Speaker 1: because it came so fast. There's so many possibilities of
Speaker 1: something going wrong that can happen. And these doctors and
Speaker 1: you know, fives and all these different ministrations, they're like,
Speaker 1: we don't want the liability though something bad happens. That
Speaker 1: doesn't make me feel good. And also too, I will
Speaker 1: just say this, you know there's side effects coming out.
Speaker 1: I saw two days ago it was saying if you
Speaker 1: have allergies, you know, maybe you shouldn't take it. Well,
Speaker 1: what allergies qualify for me to not take this vaccine.
Speaker 1: There's people saying that they're getting belts, palsy, their faces,
Speaker 1: you know, they have face paralysis, but they don't want
Speaker 1: to actually attribute it to the vaccine. I need some
Speaker 1: more experimenting and something to happen for me to feel comfortable.
Speaker 1: Last week we said, you know, o SOCCA Japan. The
Speaker 1: university is like, we don't want to give this to
Speaker 1: our citizens yet because we think some more trial runs
Speaker 1: need to be made. But Donald Trump and his whole
Speaker 1: administration is so focused on being the first that everything
Speaker 1: he has to win races. It doesn't make me feel
Speaker 1: comfortable to say, Okay, I feel confident that I can
Speaker 1: inject this virus because I'm injecting myself with COVID. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, that's what I'm doing. I
Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable to inject my body with COVID and
Speaker 1: know that I'm going to recover. There was another woman
Speaker 1: she got a fever of a hundred and five degrees.
Speaker 1: That seems your territory. Some people don't recover from that.
Speaker 1: For me personally, you know, I have family members like
Speaker 1: I have a mom, I have a dad, I have
Speaker 1: a brother. I don't I don't want to leave this
Speaker 1: earth at this time because of somebody's telling me to
Speaker 1: take something. I don't get a flu shot. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, Nick, I do understand what you're saying,
Speaker 1: and I do appreciate your courage and your honesty, I
Speaker 1: will say, and I think I think a couple of
Speaker 1: things too, you know, UM. I think that one we
Speaker 1: all need to UM encourage everyone to read and make
Speaker 1: decisions for themselves, right UM, because I definitely think it's
Speaker 1: individually based. I also believe too that some of the
Speaker 1: side effects we have seen have been assigned to a
Speaker 1: particular maker. UM. I know that they're like three different
Speaker 1: makers out now. There's Fiser, there's buy in Tech, there's
Speaker 1: also Maderna, So we have competing companies competing with different vaccines.
Speaker 1: One of the vaccines requires two injections, so they're giving
Speaker 1: people a car to kind of track that. I think
Speaker 1: that it's going to be a lot like since you
Speaker 1: use the analogy flame earlier of like a z T
Speaker 1: I think, as you know, UM, there are members of
Speaker 1: the community who take UM tru Vada. There are members
Speaker 1: of the community who take disco vie. There are those
Speaker 1: who take baktar v. Baktarv causes black people to gain weight.
Speaker 1: Some people like I ain't taking that baccarvery because it
Speaker 1: make them gain weight. Disco Vie may be perfect. Uh.
Speaker 1: There are those who will stick with the older medication.
Speaker 1: I think science inherently changes. I have relatives who used
Speaker 1: to be a diabet who are diabetic that I remember
Speaker 1: my uncle used to have to keep the insulin in
Speaker 1: the refrigerator and and do the shot. Now none of
Speaker 1: that is necessary. And my point is, I think that
Speaker 1: as we learn more and as science evolves, the fear
Speaker 1: around UM treatments that were done in the early years
Speaker 1: would say AIDS and a z T. Thanks to groups
Speaker 1: like act UP who fought the medical community and Dr Fauci,
Speaker 1: who was the only one who would meet with a
Speaker 1: marginalized community and say, you know, we got to do something.
Speaker 1: Let's try something when the government at that time was
Speaker 1: denying it was even real. I think to continue to pillory, uh,
Speaker 1: those who are trying to do something, when we see
Speaker 1: that the economy has been decimated, when we see that
Speaker 1: certain communities continue to struggle with this. We have to
Speaker 1: do something so that kids can go back to school,
Speaker 1: my mother can go back to her church, people can
Speaker 1: get back to shopping. And if if I as uh,
Speaker 1: someone who lives alone, won't step up, then who will?
Speaker 1: And I think that's well, that that's that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 1: But here's the have and have nots of it. Rudy
Speaker 1: Giuliani almost asked to get COVID. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that to be mean and shady, but you walked around
Speaker 1: with no mask, You went to all these parties that
Speaker 1: Trump had, You were out here at these self spreadors.
Speaker 1: Then you catch COVID nineteen, You go to the hospital
Speaker 1: and you get the antibodies. So in three days, you're
Speaker 1: perfectly fine. If you're not giving us who are poor people,
Speaker 1: because I consider myself a poor person the antibodies, then
Speaker 1: don't push no other ship on me, no vaccine because
Speaker 1: whatever he'll trump Milanna bearing Trump because all of them
Speaker 1: had tested positive for COVID. But they're getting the antibodies.
Speaker 1: When you're trying to push three different companies of vaccines,
Speaker 1: that's like giving me a Coca Cola or giving me
Speaker 1: an RC that's royal crown. It's old school. If you
Speaker 1: don't know about that, that's like giving me an RC
Speaker 1: when I ordered coke. It's bullshit. I don't want the bullshit.
Speaker 1: Give me the same thing that they're getting, or give
Speaker 1: me absolutely nothing, because I'm telling you, I think that
Speaker 1: the experiment they're trying to use, we're gonna be all
Speaker 1: walking around here like zombies, and I'm afraid of zombies personally.
Speaker 1: I really I'm just gonna play Devil's advocate. What are
Speaker 1: those pricings too for the antibodies? We went over that
Speaker 1: yesterday too, absolutely, and who can afford that three ten
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for regular people? Flame, Lauren, You know what
Speaker 1: it reminds me of Someone said something once and I
Speaker 1: thought was really interesting. Imagine if everyone listening today, or
Speaker 1: everyone who participates in the civic process of voting, Imagine
Speaker 1: if we all collectively demanded the same healthcare that our
Speaker 1: elected officials get. Can you imagine, like we don't even
Speaker 1: think that way. Can you imagine if we have the
Speaker 1: same coverage as Schumer, if we have the same coverage
Speaker 1: as President Trump or uh anyone else who is elected
Speaker 1: to serve the people. Imagine a world where we all
Speaker 1: had access to healthcare and eating good food, and not
Speaker 1: just from the bodega that only served You know, the
Speaker 1: reason people go to fast food restaurants is because it's
Speaker 1: convenient in many of them are working two and three
Speaker 1: jobs and just want to put food on the table
Speaker 1: for the kids. No mother, I don't believe, or father
Speaker 1: I believe, walks in saying, you know what, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna feed my kids a diet of fast food because
Speaker 1: I don't care. You know, what they're trying to do
Speaker 1: is I want to spend as much time with my
Speaker 1: kids as I possibly can because I've been working all
Speaker 1: day or I'm working two jobs, and I just want
Speaker 1: to get something on the table where we can all
Speaker 1: sit there and eat together. And and the fact that
Speaker 1: everyone doesn't have access to quality fruits and vegetables, and
Speaker 1: the fact that this administration just to go back to
Speaker 1: that and bring it full circle. The first thing they
Speaker 1: did when they moved into that White House was tear
Speaker 1: up a garden that the former First Lady had planted
Speaker 1: because she wanted to just simply send a message up,
Speaker 1: It's easy to plant your own fruits and vegetables. That's all.
Speaker 1: There was no no agenda beyond the fact that hey,
Speaker 1: let's eat healthy, let's move. They couldn't tear that thing
Speaker 1: up fast. Well, it's never gonna happen here, Nickolas. What
Speaker 1: you said about us all getting fair treatment, that's Canada,
Speaker 1: you want fair treatment. Canada has taken care of their
Speaker 1: people since this whole pandemic hit from stimulus money. They
Speaker 1: getting what two or three thousand dollars a month, They
Speaker 1: got free healthcare, They have everything that we in Germany,
Speaker 1: everything that we don't have. When they keep hollering that
Speaker 1: America is the greatest country on earth, but we're not
Speaker 1: showing that because we put somebody in a position of
Speaker 1: power who has actually pulled the blanket back and exposed
Speaker 1: the DNA on how ugly America really really is. So
Speaker 1: now everybody see what we've been going through for so
Speaker 1: many years. We can't even get a second stimulus check. Exactly,
Speaker 1: he holding the money. He said he was gonna release
Speaker 1: the money after the election when he won. He didn't win,
Speaker 1: so y'all not getting the check. So for those of
Speaker 1: you all who voted for him and you got the
Speaker 1: first check, I told you to save your money, but
Speaker 1: get your uber a lift to get your older second time.
Speaker 1: But he lost it anyway, so good for him, unless
Speaker 1: I forget Australia. Australia also got ahead of this too.
Speaker 1: You know, every every country except America. We can just
Speaker 1: say that because of the commander in chief, because we
Speaker 1: put a narcissist, ridiculous, unqualified fool in office. Because they
Speaker 1: were so angry that the black man and the black
Speaker 1: woman did a good job. I ain't gonna even say great.
Speaker 1: I think, even though I think President Obama is great,
Speaker 1: but the arguments say, people say, well, he didn't he
Speaker 1: came up claim he didn't do this, he didn't do that.
Speaker 1: He also didn't have all this scandal. He people were
Speaker 1: not standing in LANs. Have you guys seen the lines
Speaker 1: where people are waiting for food for hours in hours
Speaker 1: just to get a bag of food to feed their family.
Speaker 1: It's fucked up. I think Miami was probably the biggest
Speaker 1: shock for me. That line. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: saw that. To the food bank in Miami was literally
Speaker 1: wrapped around the block and people were really bundled up
Speaker 1: as if it was cold out there too, And I
Speaker 1: was just like, what is going on? This administration put
Speaker 1: us here? This administration put us here Nicholas and and oh,
Speaker 1: I can believe the great I also believe this administration
Speaker 1: is also partial, is wholly responsible for the fear right.
Speaker 1: I think, imagine, imagine it had the messaging been you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna do all that I can to
Speaker 1: make sure that we get a situation where everyone flamed.
Speaker 1: People did not have this resistance around polio. There's a
Speaker 1: reason why messaging matters. There's a reason why leadership matters.
Speaker 1: And and I feel like the buffoonery uh that was
Speaker 1: engaged with this particular leadership and or lack thereof, has
Speaker 1: caused so much fear and mistrust. So people continue. We're
Speaker 1: at three hundred thousand people did and counting and counting
Speaker 1: and counting. They saying that somebody dies every thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna be on here for an hour. You
Speaker 1: know how people died in this hour, And we're going
Speaker 1: to have a dark winter. When I heard that, I
Speaker 1: didn't know what that means. That I thought a game
Speaker 1: of Thrones. I was confused, What does a dark winter mean?
Speaker 1: What does that mean that many more people are just
Speaker 1: gonna die for January? Come January? Yeah, so and and
Speaker 1: and partly because of the season, right, We're gathering at Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: We're gathering at Christmas, We're gonna gather New Years, and
Speaker 1: then you know we're both or all through on. I
Speaker 1: g our friends in Atlanta there, I don't think any
Speaker 1: I don't think a club is closed, so they're all
Speaker 1: partying like nothing hit. I remember seeing a video of
Speaker 1: Compound because I used to live in Atlanta. My apartment
Speaker 1: was right there, and they put an indoor pool inside
Speaker 1: of the club during COVID. So there you go. Well,
Speaker 1: like you said, Nicholas, and like we always pushed, your
Speaker 1: decision is your decision. I'm not well. How I feel
Speaker 1: has no reflection for no one else. I'm only speaking
Speaker 1: for me and my family. I'm not allowing my children
Speaker 1: to take My children have never had a flu shot
Speaker 1: their entire lives. I had a flu shot in ninety
Speaker 1: two put me in hospital for ten days. I also
Speaker 1: regret getting my children the HPV shot. I did it
Speaker 1: all that much because I researched it, I spoke with people.
Speaker 1: But now when I think about all the conspiracy theories
Speaker 1: and what it was and black and I'm telling you
Speaker 1: how I feel is that because we live in Long Beach,
Speaker 1: even though we went to Long Beach Memorial Hospital, which
Speaker 1: is very reputable hospital. I believe that the communities that
Speaker 1: you live in, when they see a bunch of people
Speaker 1: that don't look like them, is how I'm going to
Speaker 1: say it, politically correct, they might get a different dose
Speaker 1: of medication than you give to the ones that look
Speaker 1: like there. You know, and I know that sounds. Let
Speaker 1: me say what I'm saying. Let me I'm a parent,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you I regret getting my children an
Speaker 1: HPV shot. I do. I've said this publicly on Love
Speaker 1: Lounge or either on coffee time on my on my
Speaker 1: personal channel, because I don't know what they injected into
Speaker 1: my children. I know that they say it could stop
Speaker 1: the cancer when my children were sexually active, because I
Speaker 1: do have one kid that's sexually active at seventeen. But
Speaker 1: I was doing this because I thought and I researched
Speaker 1: that I did. I talked to people, I talked to you,
Speaker 1: I talked to my to the guard of college, and
Speaker 1: I talked to the doctor. I wanted to be sure.
Speaker 1: But now when I see what's happening with this whole
Speaker 1: vaccine and how the government just does not has this
Speaker 1: guard and this miss black and brown people. I regret it,
Speaker 1: and if I could do it over again, I would.
Speaker 1: I think, you know one of the things that continues
Speaker 1: to play back in my mind flame Lauren. We all
Speaker 1: have friends small business owners, and I'm I'm just watching them,
Speaker 1: um struggle, and it seems like they have been particularly
Speaker 1: friends of mine who owned restaurants. There has been little
Speaker 1: to no support on them trying to pay rent on
Speaker 1: a property that they have keep employees working or shut down.
Speaker 1: They clean, they put up plastic glass. They've jumped through
Speaker 1: so many hoops without again leadership that if enough people
Speaker 1: like me do the right thing by taking the vaccine,
Speaker 1: then the few who do not the idea that if
Speaker 1: of us do it, we should be good to go. Right.
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that all of those here we go.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that all of those who are there in
Speaker 1: DC rioting last week, who are so passionate about this
Speaker 1: commander in chief, I'm hoping they will be among the
Speaker 1: first lining up to get this shot. Since the idea
Speaker 1: is to make America great again, right, Um, then then
Speaker 1: maybe that's that's not that's over. That's over. We're build
Speaker 1: back better now, build back better, build back better. That
Speaker 1: is Joe Biden, build back better, Nick. I do agree
Speaker 1: to you to that point. All those folks that were
Speaker 1: outside protesting, wearing a mask and everything, y'all should be
Speaker 1: the ones first in line to COVID vaccine. Absolutely agree
Speaker 1: with you. Absolutely so, Flame. What are your final thoughts?
Speaker 1: My final thoughts is this, I ain't taking ship, give
Speaker 1: me a check, give me liberty, or give me death.
Speaker 1: Isn't that one of the lines. Isn't that something is
Speaker 1: I'm not? Your decision is your decision. I never want
Speaker 1: anyone to say with Flames saying, and because everyone has
Speaker 1: to have their own mind, which is why we are
Speaker 1: here now. Because I have my own mind, I know
Speaker 1: what I want, what works for me. The unsurety of
Speaker 1: what is going on in the world right now because
Speaker 1: we don't know. I saw one of the side effects
Speaker 1: with somebody's tongues were up in their mouth and they
Speaker 1: couldn't talk or anything. My money makes, my mouth makes
Speaker 1: my money. If my tongue is swollen. I know somebod
Speaker 1: y'all would like me to shut the hell up. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna ever happened ever until I'm dead. You want
Speaker 1: me to shut up for the days on my head,
Speaker 1: some dirt on my face, and put a bit in
Speaker 1: the box. Because outside of that, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: taking it because I'm unsure of what the aftermath will be.
Speaker 1: And with all the conspiracy movies with I Am Legend,
Speaker 1: and the zombies and all the conspiracy theories, all this stuff,
Speaker 1: So you you should have never clouded us on Netflix
Speaker 1: and on all these different platforms to see all this
Speaker 1: ship because and then you show us this government or
Speaker 1: the lack of leadership, like you said, who has put
Speaker 1: me in a place. So I don't trust anyone. Barack
Speaker 1: Obama said he was gonna take it. I trust Obama,
Speaker 1: but they'gna take it because I ain't taking it with you.
Speaker 1: I don't even want it from your needle. I don't
Speaker 1: want it unless I can get those anybody's that have
Speaker 1: saved Giuliani in three days, saved Chris Christie, saved Trump.
Speaker 1: If I can get those, saved all his family, if
Speaker 1: I can get that, ain't because here's the hypocrisy necklace.
Speaker 1: So if it's ten thousand dollars a dose, and I
Speaker 1: got twenty tho dollars, but I got three kids, I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to make a decision on which kid I'm going
Speaker 1: to sacrifice. I'm not going to do that. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to sacrifice any of my children. You give it
Speaker 1: for everyone, the rich and the poor, the exact same thing,
Speaker 1: or you pull us out the equation. I understand about
Speaker 1: the seventy of people need to take it, but it's
Speaker 1: too many people and not just black people who don't
Speaker 1: trust it. Not just black people. That was my only
Speaker 1: disagreement with you. It's not just us. A lot of
Speaker 1: people I know just afraid to take me because it's
Speaker 1: been so many lives and so much great water, great mud.
Speaker 1: We don't know what to believe. I believe what I know.
Speaker 1: I know that I've been spraying everybody with lights off
Speaker 1: for ten months. I've been praying, I wash my hands
Speaker 1: on our social distances and everybody and everybody in this office,
Speaker 1: from me to Kinder, the Reality for to Triple the producer.
Speaker 1: If you're around me, I spray your ask with lights off.
Speaker 1: I believe it works. Whatever you believe, Like you said,
Speaker 1: you're gonna take it to say, but I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: to snap. You take it and you start acting crazy
Speaker 1: and weird and ship not the nick that I know
Speaker 1: I will shoot you. I'm just if you flame, you'll
Speaker 1: you'll know something is wrong. If I start to deny butter. No,
Speaker 1: if you stop eating chicken, I'm gonna know you can
Speaker 1: because Nikolas et chicken a salmon every day. If you
Speaker 1: stop eating chicken, I know you're sucked up. Nikolas. We
Speaker 1: missed you here. It was a great conversation. Thank you,
Speaker 1: my buddy. I will see you next week. You Nick say,
Speaker 1: say your final that. Where can we follow you at?
Speaker 1: You can follow me on all social media platforms under
Speaker 1: Nick Smith News. And remember, I want everybody to like,
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Speaker 1: your podcasts. Thank you, my partner. I missed you this week.
Speaker 1: I'll see you soon. You will indeed, by say by
Speaker 1: the Lauren by Lauren, you look like ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for joining us here a
Speaker 1: laugh and learn. Thank you my wonderful manager, Lauren Hogan.
Speaker 1: This is my baby right here. Yeah. She takes great
Speaker 1: care of me, especially the uh. Secondly, I just want
Speaker 1: you with you guys to think for yourselves. I know
Speaker 1: I talked plenty of smack, and you know I'm here
Speaker 1: to make you laugh, but we're also here to make
Speaker 1: you think. Our decisions are not your decisions. The only
Speaker 1: person who can think for you and you be comfortable
Speaker 1: with the decision that you make is you don't let
Speaker 1: nobody else speak for you or think for you, because
Speaker 1: if it goes left, then you want to blame somebody else.
Speaker 1: Always looking at me. Here and see who's looking back
Speaker 1: at you. Look into the eyes that are looking at you.
Speaker 1: And final score, Biden has won the electoral college. See
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, nigga, you lost, Nigga, Go sit down somewhere
Speaker 1: every language. Every time you when we put in math,
Speaker 1: how much what was that? Two two three or two
Speaker 1: to three to two? You lost? Trump? Baby? He said
Speaker 1: he was going tomorrow logo, and he was never returning
Speaker 1: to the White House. You spend more time goinging than
Speaker 1: you be in the president you got damn Wait. So
Speaker 1: they're like, and it costs us money. It costs us
Speaker 1: tons of money. So while he paid how much for taxes?
Speaker 1: Uh seven hundred and fifty dollars. But y'all want to
Speaker 1: take something from him if you don't if you trust
Speaker 1: the vaccine, go back and look at when when Dr
Speaker 1: Fauci was standing behind the Trump and Dr Birch when
Speaker 1: he was making one of his press conferences and he
Speaker 1: said something ridiculous and he put his head down. The
Speaker 1: Dr Foucci smiling and laughing because he was so mortified,
Speaker 1: but he smiled and smirked. I felt like he was
Speaker 1: smirking at us, the American people, because that was the
Speaker 1: perfect time for you to something said. Now, that's not
Speaker 1: what it is. This is exactly what it is. But
Speaker 1: then as soon as he went left on Trump, he
Speaker 1: said he was getting death threats and woo woo woo.
Speaker 1: What's more important your check or the American people. The
Speaker 1: American people we're losing. We're losing because we at three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand plus and county. Decision you make for your
Speaker 1: life is your life. You can follow me at Flame
Speaker 1: Underscore my Row on Twitter, at Monroe Flame on Instagram,
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Speaker 1: Lauren on Instagram at Lauren ARMANI h Lauren our money
Speaker 1: and you said professionally is how she speaks away. I'm
Speaker 1: nothing like that. I ain't knowing. Yeah, don't get any
Speaker 1: but I love we do and we will be back
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Speaker 1: This is a Christmas like we have never seen before.
Speaker 1: This Christmas should not be about gifts. This Christmas should
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