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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We

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Speaker 2: appreciate all of you hanging out with us after what

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Speaker 2: was a big weekend. I'm sure many of you are,

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Speaker 2: like me, unable to escape. Taylor Swift as the Kansas

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Speaker 2: City Chiefs and the San Francisco forty nine ers will

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Speaker 2: be advancing to the super Bowl next week. I'll be

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Speaker 2: out in Las Vegas. We'll probably have some fun with that.

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Speaker 2: Buck had no idea the games were going on. He

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Speaker 2: was watching Masters of the Air or Masters that was

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Speaker 2: called the New World War two fighting Epic. We'll get

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Speaker 2: a review per year on Masters of the Air. The

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Speaker 2: title may be the most interesting part of the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Not good.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you my full review later. Lots of stories

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Speaker 2: that we're going to dive into. The border battle has

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Speaker 2: heated up and Appeers Republicans are not going to allow

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden to try to tie them to this. We'll

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Speaker 2: see whether or not that is successful. Awful story from

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Speaker 2: the Middle East where in Iran terror group struck and

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Speaker 2: killed three service members. We will be talking about that

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Speaker 2: and what is the appropriate response from the United States

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Speaker 2: to that act of aggression. Over one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: acts of aggression from Iraqi Iranian affiliated terror groups since

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Speaker 2: the October seventh terror attack happened in Israel.

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Speaker 1: We will break all of that down.

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Speaker 2: But Buck, this story happened on Friday, and I don't

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Speaker 2: want it to slide under the radar just because it

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Speaker 2: happened to have happened on Friday afternoon while I, by

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Speaker 2: the way, was trying to teach my fifteen year old

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Speaker 2: how to drive, so I was trying to keep tabs

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Speaker 2: on this story producer ally blowing up our phone with

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Speaker 2: it and then all the news alerts that are coming

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Speaker 2: down while I was trying to avoid him driving off

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Speaker 2: the road and or hitting anybody. So that timing on

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Speaker 2: Friday afternoon, I feel like we haven't got as much

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Speaker 2: intelligent discussion of that issue as we should have.

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Speaker 1: And to me, Buck, I've read and I looked at it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever seen a more indefensible

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Speaker 2: civil trial verdict than eighty three million dollars going to

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Speaker 2: Egene Carroll. This is a direct attack upon Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: because of his political beliefs. Buck, they changed the statute

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Speaker 2: of limitations in New York to even allow this lawsuit

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Speaker 2: to happen in the first place, and in particular they

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Speaker 2: determined this jury, and also the court system and the

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Speaker 2: apparatus surrounding it in general, that Trump has to pay

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Speaker 2: eighty three million dollars because he denied that he committed

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Speaker 2: sexual assault in twenty nineteen when she wrote a book

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Speaker 2: claiming that she had been sexually assaulted. The entire premise

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Speaker 2: of this judgment is, I think one of the most

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Speaker 2: indefensible civil court rulings that I can remember. What are

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Speaker 2: you supposed to do if someone accuses you of sexual assault?

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Speaker 2: How is it defamation to say that they are lying

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Speaker 2: and that you didn't do it?

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Speaker 1: He was never charged with a crime in this case.

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Speaker 2: It's much like the Kavanaugh case buck in that if

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Speaker 2: you actually look at all the details of this allegation,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't add up. She doesn't know when it was,

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Speaker 2: she doesn't know what year it was, She's there's all

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Speaker 2: these different She's a clear kook in many ways in

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Speaker 2: terms of her public pronouncements, like when she said some

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Speaker 2: people think rape is sexy when she was on with

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Speaker 2: Anderson Cooper, And this is such a transparently political maneuver

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Speaker 2: funded by Donald Trump's political adversaries. I don't want what

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Speaker 2: and I would love to hear from other lawyers on

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Speaker 2: this too during the course of the show. If you

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Speaker 2: have opinions like me, how is it buck that you

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Speaker 2: can't deny that you committed a crime without getting accused

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Speaker 3: So what they've done is used a civil procedure that

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Speaker 3: they changed. And I would just point out the statute

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Speaker 3: a technicality, because it's really hard for an innocent person

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Speaker 3: to prove their innocence about something that happened, depending on

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Speaker 3: the crime we're talking about ten years ago, twenty years ago,

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Speaker 3: you know, how could you gather witnesses, how could you

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: I mean, these things just become impossible at some point.

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Speaker 3: So it's not just some mere technicality. I know that

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Speaker 3: there's no statute for a murder and for a few

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Speaker 3: other things, but generally speaking, to just remove the statute

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Speaker 3: Trump basically. I mean, that's really why they did it

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Speaker 3: think is egregious, but it's a preponderance of the evidence standard.

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Speaker 1: Its say.

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Speaker 3: This is the jury sits there and say, as you know,

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Speaker 3: I think he probably did it, but I don't really know,

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Speaker 3: and that's a massive difference. Then he did it beyond

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Speaker 3: a reasonable doubt. I am certain that this person did

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Speaker 3: this thing. But what they're doing is using a civil

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Speaker 3: verdict as essentially the foundation for well, clearly Trump must

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Speaker 3: have done this. Therefore, when he says he didn't do it,

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Speaker 3: and when he says this woman is lying, he is

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Speaker 3: defaming her. This is lawfair. This is all it is.

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Speaker 3: This is lawfair, pure and simple against Donald Trump. There's

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Speaker 3: so much of this. I'll be honest with you, Clay.

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Speaker 3: I think there should be more important things in the

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Speaker 3: world for us to talk about than another lawsuit against

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump. But he's the presidential nominee. They're destroying our

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Speaker 3: system in order to destroy him. I want to talk

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Speaker 3: more about the border, which we will. I want to

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Speaker 3: talk more about this Iranian backed militia in Iraq and Syria,

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Speaker 3: which we will. But in the meantime, you know, I

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Speaker 3: don't want it to be the constant Trump legal defense

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Speaker 1: What choice do we have.

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Speaker 3: They make it im possible they will not stop, So

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Speaker 3: the only way to make them stop is to defeat them, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is what we're forced into. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're making a massive political gamble, but they're also gambling

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Speaker 3: with the system because to your point, and this is

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Speaker 3: why I thought the Kavanaugh thing was really the ugliest

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Speaker 3: thing I've ever seen in American politics. A manifestly innocent

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Speaker 3: on the testimony of a loon. It was disgraceful to

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Speaker 3: the country, and Kamala Harris was a part of it.

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Speaker 3: But it was meant to set the precedent. And now

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Speaker 3: they're using that president to go after Trump.

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Speaker 2: And don't mistake what they're trying to do here too,

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Speaker 2: because expect that Leticia James is going to get from

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Speaker 2: her ally, the judge in the business lawsuit against the

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Speaker 2: Trump organization a verdict a penalty of somewhere in the

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Speaker 3: Set the over under at. So then you combine it

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Speaker 3: his pocket. Even if you're super rich, most people don't

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Speaker 3: all these different holdings. And so the idea that.

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Speaker 2: You could be that you could be responsible for defamation

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Speaker 2: for denying that you sexually assaulted someone is one of

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Speaker 2: the craziest, most broken, grotesque perversions of the civil court

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Speaker 1: What are you supposed to do?

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Speaker 3: Just allow people to make accusations that you've engaged in

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Speaker 3: criminal behavior and never ever fire back at them at all? Also,

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Speaker 3: can I just point out that because it's civil, the

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Speaker 3: penalties for lying aren't going to be in four that all,

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Speaker 3: so she can say whatever she wants and not that

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Speaker 3: a lot of times they're not in these cases anyway.

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Speaker 3: But she can say whatever she wants. There's already a

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Speaker 3: lot of discrepancy in her testimony. She can't prove a

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Speaker 3: damn thing. It would never get anywhere near I mean,

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Speaker 3: in what way is this worth eighty three million dollars?

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Speaker 3: I mean, what is the calculators?

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Speaker 1: No connection? Yes? Why not a trillion?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think Trump said a mean thing about

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Speaker 3: this crazy person who's lying. I think he should have

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Speaker 3: to pay a trillion dollars. A trillion sounds like a

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Speaker 3: much better judgment to me. Why not a whatever comes

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Speaker 3: after a quadrillion? I mean, it's just nuts clay. And

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Speaker 3: this is yet again why I understand and for people

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Speaker 3: that are that are upset that they feel like, oh well,

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Speaker 3: Trump has been chosen by the Democrats with all these indictments.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but what are we going to do? Right?

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Speaker 3: And whether they believe that or not. But I'm just saying,

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Speaker 3: there are people out there, you know, half of the

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Speaker 3: But for anyone who has misgivings about it, you can't

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Speaker 3: let them do this. I mean, what are we gonna do?

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Speaker 3: You know, this isn't the last time. Look what they

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Speaker 3: did to Capitol. Clay Kavanaugh is a boy scout. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Kavanaugh makes Mitt Romney look like Axel Rose from the

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Speaker 3: Guns N' Roses Days. And they they actually put people

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Speaker 3: of some secret gang rape squad in high school. She

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Speaker 3: It was absolute madness. My point being here, they're not

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Speaker 1: Let them do it?

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Speaker 2: No, And look, and she's not even hiding what she's

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Speaker 2: trying to do. Egene Carroll, we have a cut here,

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Speaker 2: says she'll do anything she can to help the Biden camp.

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Speaker 1: Here's cut three.

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Speaker 5: Cray says nothing. You say, the emperor has no clothes.

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Speaker 5: The Emperor is trying to run for president again. And

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Speaker 5: right now, right now, the polls suggest it's a coin flip.

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Speaker 1: It's very close. Have you heard.

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Speaker 5: From Joe Biden's campaign arm about potentially campaigning against the

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Speaker 5: former president Donald Trump?

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Speaker 1: No, are you interested in doing so?

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Speaker 3: Do anything I can?

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Speaker 2: That's yes, there you go. I mean, you can't make

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Speaker 2: it any more transparently political. And I'll just point out

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Speaker 2: here Joe Biden far more credibly accused by Tara Reid,

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Speaker 2: one of his former employees, to have directly sexually assaulted

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Speaker 2: her while she was working for him, a story that

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Speaker 2: that story completely vanished, no consequences whatsoever for Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: from those what seems fairly credible allegations of sexual assault

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Speaker 2: that would also be sexual harassment because she was his employee.

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Speaker 3: Well, and they're not going to change statutes in DC

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Speaker 3: in order to just go after Joe Biden. That's what

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Speaker 3: they did to Donald Trump, right. I mean, there's something

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Speaker 3: deeply troublesome about what we have seen. Specifically in my

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Speaker 3: on Saturday, and this is clay right now. This is

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Speaker 3: the first thing that he's saying he's going to do.

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Speaker 3: The first thing he is promising day one deportations of

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Speaker 3: illegals who have come here play for we.

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Speaker 1: Have no choice.

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Speaker 7: Within moments of my inauguration, we will begin the largest

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Speaker 7: domestic deportation operation in America too all. We have no

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Speaker 7: choice because this is not sustainable.

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Speaker 1: It's no under.

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Speaker 7: Joe Biden and his thugs are so desperate to stop us.

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Speaker 7: They know that we are the only ones who can

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Speaker 7: stop them. They know that.

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Speaker 3: Now he would have the power as president to do this.

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Speaker 3: This is not a matter of congressional action. These individuals

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Speaker 3: are in the country in violation of US law. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it depends on who we're talking about, but in general,

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Speaker 3: illegals are here in violation of federal immigration law. The

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Speaker 3: whole notion of asylum seeking too, I should add it

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Speaker 3: is also within the federal Code as a regulatory matter,

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Speaker 3: not as a legislative matter. That that can be change.

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Speaker 3: They can say, look, sorry, we're making it a higher standard.

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Speaker 3: Asylum is a nice thing that we do for the

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Speaker 3: rest of the world.

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Speaker 1: As Americans.

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Speaker 3: We set the standards of what that should be, and

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Speaker 3: the federal government can just say, look, we got too

463
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Speaker 3: many people who are lying about this. You have to

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Speaker 3: actually have some proof of a threat. You have to

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Speaker 3: be able to tell a story that is demonstrable. You

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Speaker 3: can't just say I have a credible fear. That would

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Speaker 3: change the game, too, Clay. So, if Trump follows through

468
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Speaker 3: on this, it is a very different immigration situation than

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Speaker 3: what we've seen for four years. And also the incentive

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Speaker 3: structure has changed because what is being spread down all

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Speaker 3: through Latin America and indeed around the world, because I

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Speaker 3: believe we have had over one hundred different countries represented

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Speaker 3: in people crossing our southern border, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: so important to understand what exactly is going on if

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Speaker 3: somebody crossed from Mexico. You mentioned the nineteen fifties with Eisenhower.

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Speaker 2: Historically immigration patterns where people from Mexico might come north

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Speaker 2: to work in jobs in the United States and then

478
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Speaker 2: they go back home and they're seasonally crossing the border

479
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: back and forth, but they still have really kind of

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Speaker 2: their roots in Mexico. Well, that's somewhat feasible if you're

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Speaker 2: from Africa, or you're from Asia, or you're from far

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Speaker 2: down into Latin America. The idea that you're going to

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Speaker 2: be easily going back and forth and having sort of

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Speaker 2: a foot in each country is no longer viable. And

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Speaker 2: so what's going on here is we're getting people who

486
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Speaker 2: are coming permanently. To your point, they're saying that they

487
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Speaker 2: desire asylum. They don't have court hearings until the twenty thirties.

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Speaker 2: Now they have kids.

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Speaker 3: In the meantime, their kids become citizens, and they get

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Speaker 3: integrated in some way into American commerce and becomes very

491
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Speaker 3: difficult to remove them. They're breaking laws, they're scamming our system,

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Speaker 3: they're taking advantage of the kindness of the American people.

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Speaker 3: And if you change this, you know, they're spending thousands

494
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Speaker 3: of dollars to pay off the cartels, they're spending whatever

495
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 3: they're spending to, especially if they're flying from somewhere else

496
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Speaker 3: in the world to get to Mexico in the first place,

497
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Speaker 3: or to get to somewhere in South America and then

498
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Speaker 3: make their way up through Mexico to our border. So

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, if you may, you know, if

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Speaker 3: you come here from uh, pick a country in the

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Speaker 3: you know, from Pakistan, all right, and you try to

502
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Speaker 3: just do this thing where you show up at the

503
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Speaker 3: US Mexico border and there are people who come from Pakistan.

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Speaker 3: Just to be clear, the people come from name a country.

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Speaker 3: If fact, over one hundred countries have come across our

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Speaker 3: southern borders since over one hundred.

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Speaker 1: And sixty at this point. I mean, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So every third world country in the world now

510
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Speaker 3: has people that are just showing up and doing this

511
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Speaker 3: and scamming the system. Uh, if you find out that

512
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 3: you're going to go through that whole process. You're going

513
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Speaker 3: to pay the cartels three thousand dollars in cash or

514
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Speaker 3: five thousand dollars in cash, whatever it is, and end

515
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Speaker 3: up getting sent back to Pakistan or you know, Burma,

516
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Speaker 3: or you know West Africa or wherever. You're probably not

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Speaker 3: going to do it, right. I mean, if you think that,

518
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Speaker 3: you're going to get turned away. And this is not

519
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Speaker 3: about locking people up. It's not about hurting people they're

520
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Speaker 3: ruining their lives or anything else. It's about saying, we

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Speaker 3: have a system, we have rule of law in this country.

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Speaker 1: We're going to.

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Speaker 3: Return you to your country if you come here illegally.

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Speaker 1: That's all it is. That's all this is about.

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Speaker 3: And you know this is This is I think the

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Speaker 3: primary message that Trump is bringing to people at rallies,

527
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Speaker 3: and I mean the Biden White House. Their only answer

528
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Speaker 3: is to lie about this, to say, oh, we have

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Speaker 3: to have a comprey, we have to tie this to

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Speaker 3: Ukraine funding. Let me think about that for a second, Clay,

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Speaker 3: we got to tie this to you is one one

532
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Speaker 3: has nothing to do with the other. It's just a

533
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Speaker 3: gross trick that they're trying to pull because they don't

534
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Speaker 3: want people to see what they're really all about. When

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Speaker 3: it comes to the border, it's one hundred percent what

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Speaker 3: it is, and Biden has to own this. But understand,

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Speaker 3: what he's going to try to do is confuse people

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Speaker 3: by saying the reason the southern border is open is

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Speaker 3: because Republicans didn't take action on this bill. When all

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Speaker 3: he has to do is pull out a pin one

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Speaker 3: stroke of the pen. He can solve the border crisis

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Speaker 3: by himself. He doesn't need Congress involved at all. All right,

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Speaker 3: let's take some of your calls on this eight hundred

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Speaker 3: two two two eight eight two. We'll come back in

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Speaker 3: just a moment on it. The death of an unborn

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Speaker 3: child through abortion is what is constantly in the minds

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Speaker 3: of those who are working at the Preborn Network of Clinics.

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Speaker 3: It's the motivation they have to keep working and saving

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Speaker 3: as many lives as they can day in and day out.

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Speaker 3: They believe with every fiber of their being that an

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Speaker 3: unborn child should be brought into this world whenever possible.

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Speaker 3: It's for that reason they operate their clinics, the Preborn

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Speaker 3: Let's take a call here from Jerome in Indiana, who

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Speaker 3: is a legal immigrants to this country.

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Speaker 1: He's got a question about all this. What's up?

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Speaker 4: Jerome?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Hi, good that afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. What I wanted to ask for both of you,

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Speaker 4: since you all know the legal stuff is for people

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Speaker 4: that area seeking asylum. Isn't it possible.

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Speaker 6: For them to process those people at the US embassy

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Speaker 6: from the country order from.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this is this is a Jerome. This is a

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Speaker 3: very important point you raised. I thank you for calling in,

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Speaker 3: and we'll address this now, because these are further layers

582
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Speaker 3: of what I call the scam that's going on here.

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Speaker 3: The answer is yes, if you arrive in the US,

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Speaker 3: you are an asylum and you want to be effectively

585
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Speaker 3: a refugee, you're considered to be seeking asylum. But you

586
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 3: can get the same process by being in your home

587
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Speaker 3: country going to the embassy and you can apply for

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Speaker 3: refugee status. So refugee and assi lee are very similar.

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Speaker 3: It's just a question of where your uh, where you

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Speaker 3: are physically when you do it.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: These individuals should be going if they were true asylum

593
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Speaker 3: seekers or refugees, they should be going into their home

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Speaker 3: country and you know, going to the US embassy and

595
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Speaker 3: going through the process and doing the interviews and waiting there.

596
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Speaker 3: But Clay, the other part of this that's really interesting,

597
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Speaker 3: and this does not get talked about enough. Asylum seekers

598
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Speaker 3: under our law, under immigration law, cannot be people who

599
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: are transiting countries in the process of getting here. The

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Speaker 3: asylum just so I'm saying it is truly for Hey,

601
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Speaker 3: I'm you know, back in the old Soviet days, right

602
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: like I'm a visiting you know, musician. I'm a violinist,

603
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Speaker 3: and if I go back to the you know, Moscow

604
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Speaker 3: Royal Symphony, They're going to execute me because I'm politically outspoken.

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00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: Will you guys take me in, put me back on

606
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Speaker 3: the plane, and I may be tortured and executed. That's

607
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Speaker 3: what asylum is for. What people are doing is they're

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Speaker 3: showing up. I mean, I used Pakistan before, you know,

609
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Speaker 3: take another country, Thailand. They're showing They're leaving Thailand, they're

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Speaker 3: going They're flying into you know, Peru or Venezuela or

611
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Speaker 3: maybe Mexico. Directly, they're transiting a third party to come

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Speaker 3: to America and in doing so violating what would be

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Speaker 3: necessary for them to be a true asylum seekert because

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Speaker 3: they're supposed to apply clay in Mexico.

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Speaker 1: That's actually the rule. So the whole thing is a fraud.

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Speaker 1: I don't know else people need to hear.

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Speaker 3: That's why I have all these single adult males who

618
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Speaker 3: are scamming our system coming across the border millions of

619
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Speaker 3: them now.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I keep pointing out that this became

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Speaker 2: such a big issue. You know, when I was in

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Speaker 2: Italy in March, I was talking with Italian guys who

623
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Speaker 2: were taking us around in Naples, and Italy has had

624
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Speaker 2: a huge issue with illegals coming in from Africa because

625
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Speaker 2: it's not that far geographically. They want to get into

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Speaker 2: the EU where they could theoretically be able to get

627
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Speaker 2: better benefits and everything else than they would have in Africa.

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Speaker 2: What's crazy is even Europe, which has had a major

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Speaker 2: issue right, this has turned into a monstrous issue all

630
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Speaker 2: over Europe too because they brought in so many immigrants

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Speaker 2: and if you follow geopolitical stories and even want to

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Speaker 2: read about what's going on there, whether it's France, whether

633
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Speaker 2: it's Italy, whether it's Germany, whether it's Sweden, Switzerland, England,

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Speaker 2: all of these countries are having immigrants come in who

635
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Speaker 2: have no interest whatsoever in becoming citizens of those countries

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Speaker 2: that are similar to the past. Right, France is fascinating

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Speaker 2: for this buck because France is actually a color where

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Speaker 2: they say we don't see a country where they say

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Speaker 2: we don't see color. We see you as French or

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Speaker 2: not French. And they actually have taken our phrase woke

641
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Speaker 2: and they call it wokesm that's not a very good

642
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Speaker 2: French action but accent.

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Speaker 3: But the Ohism. By the way, little beret On Clay

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden a little baget in his hand, Wokism.

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Speaker 3: They savage in France the idea of the woke ideology.

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Speaker 1: And this has been across the board.

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Speaker 2: They've had all these interesting disputes, for instance with me Too,

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Speaker 2: where a lot of people have come out women in

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Speaker 2: France and attacked the concept of me too. And Gerard Deperdeaux,

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Speaker 2: the most famous French actor. I can't believe that my

651
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Speaker 2: knowledge of France was probably not anywhere near as high

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Speaker 2: as people expected based on all this knowledge of French

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Speaker 2: geopolitics here. But my point on it is buck these

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Speaker 2: African immigrants are having more difficulty getting into Europe, even

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Speaker 2: though geographically it's far easier to get into Spain, to

656
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Speaker 2: get into Italy, to get into any of these countries

657
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Speaker 2: from North Africa. They're getting on planes, to your point,

658
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Speaker 2: they're flying to Latin America or mech and they're walking

659
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Speaker 2: right into our country. So I mean, this is kind

660
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Speaker 2: of crazy to think about. It's easier for an African

661
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Speaker 2: illegal immigrant to get in the United States, which should

662
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Speaker 2: be wildly difficult just based on raw geography, than it

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Speaker 2: is to actually get into Europe.

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Speaker 3: You know, you also have to start looking at what

665
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Speaker 3: does it mean to have sovereignty and what does it

666
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Speaker 3: mean to have rule of law? You know, why is

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Speaker 3: it that we don't have Canadians voting in our elections.

668
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Speaker 3: Canadians speak the same language, they live right next door

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Speaker 3: to us, a lot of you know, you can't even

670
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Speaker 3: tell some Canadians you think they're Midwesterners. You know, they're

671
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Speaker 3: just as nice, just as polite, right, so you can't

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Speaker 3: tell the difference. And yet Hawaii, which is in the

673
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Speaker 3: middle of the Pacific Ocean, a totally separate land mass,

674
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Speaker 3: one of the most isolated island chains in the world,

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Speaker 3: those are Americans. Why why is that? It's because it's

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Speaker 3: American soil. Because we have nation states that make these determinations,

677
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Speaker 3: that draw boundaries on a map and say we control

678
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Speaker 3: what goes on on this soil. The moment that all

679
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, anyone can show up and anyone can

680
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Speaker 3: be a part of this, and there's no by your

681
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Speaker 3: leave necessary, it's just I want to be here. I'm here.

682
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Speaker 3: You start to ask, well, how long do we really

683
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Speaker 3: have a country? How long do we have a cultural unit?

684
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Speaker 3: How long do we have linguistic ties, historical ties, a

685
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Speaker 3: shared heritage, a shared love of the way that we

686
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Speaker 3: do things here versus the way that we do things

687
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Speaker 3: somewhere else. I mean, I always point out in the

688
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Speaker 3: European context, Clay, it can feel even more obvious. You know,

689
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Speaker 3: you look at a country like the Netherlands. It's not

690
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Speaker 3: a very big country, right, It's not a very big geographically,

691
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Speaker 3: it's not very big population wise. You let in a

692
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Speaker 3: million people from a very different culture. Very quickly, very suddenly,

693
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Speaker 3: you realize you're starting to be in a different political entity.

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Speaker 3: Now it's not the same country it was before you

695
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Speaker 3: let in five million people into a country of that size,

696
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Speaker 3: you're definitely in a different place, different laws, different and

697
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Speaker 3: you know, we could talk about those laws look like

698
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Speaker 3: and what the religious persuasion of some of the migrants

699
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Speaker 3: is versus what the people that are there. But this

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Speaker 3: is why you have so many governments in Europe that

701
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Speaker 3: are increasingly turning more right wing, more conservative, because the

702
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: people that live in these countries are saying, what's the point,

703
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Speaker 3: Like if you can just show off and you don't

704
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Speaker 3: have to learn the language and you don't have to

705
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Speaker 3: feel like there's any affinity, you don't have to obey

706
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Speaker 3: our laws. Why am I here? Why would I give

707
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Speaker 3: my life for this place? Why do I pay taxes

708
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Speaker 3: to this place? Why can people show up at my

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Speaker 3: door and take away my freedom because I don't give

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Speaker 3: them the prescribed amount of taxation that they demand.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I think there's lots of people looking around

712
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Speaker 2: the country, let's use our listeners in Southeast Michigan right now.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are looking around at

714
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Speaker 2: some of what is being said surrounding October seventh and

715
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Speaker 2: thinking to themselves, my goodness, how in the world are

716
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Speaker 2: we living in a state where there are huge portions

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Speaker 2: of Michigan now right Dearborn, in particular, where large majorities

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Speaker 2: of Arab people living there don't believe that Israel should

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Speaker 2: exist and are using American political institutions as immigrants to

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Speaker 2: argue against, for instance.

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Speaker 1: Israel existing. It's just the culture of a place.

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Speaker 2: And and we haven't even talked about the clip that

723
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Speaker 2: has gone super viral of elon Omar, arguing that basically

724
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Speaker 2: she exists to do the bidding of small eland and

725
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Speaker 2: defend Muslim interest in the United States above her responsibilities

726
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Speaker 2: as a United States citizen. And I think there are

727
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Speaker 2: lots of people asking these questions, not only the United States,

728
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Speaker 2: but just about nationhood in general. And remember, Puck, you

729
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: can't become a citizen of China. There is no immigration

730
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Speaker 2: to China. There's no immigration to Japan. By and large,

731
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Speaker 2: are many big group of seven nations. The United States

732
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Speaker 2: is actually the outlier in terms of its incredible welcoming nature,

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Speaker 2: in terms of its birthright citizenship perspectives. These things don't

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Speaker 2: exist in many of the other largest economies in the world.

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Speaker 3: If immigration that is unrestricted doesn't put strain on the

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Speaker 3: load bearing walls of our republic, why do we have

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Speaker 3: immigration laws. There's no reason for them, right if there

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Speaker 3: was nothing that could go awry, if there were no

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Speaker 3: challenges that would come from just unrestricted, unrestrained, free flowing

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Speaker 3: immigration into this country. People say, oh, but what about

741
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Speaker 3: you know, what about the early eighteen hundreds. Those are pioneers.

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Speaker 3: There's no welfare state, folks. Okay, if you got here

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Speaker 3: on a creaking wooden ship. And you didn't die of

744
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Speaker 3: scurvy or typhus or whatever it was, go out in

745
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Speaker 3: the woods with a hatchet.

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Speaker 1: Nobody was putting you up.

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Speaker 3: In a four star hotel in New York City and

748
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Speaker 3: saying we're gonna hey for your food and your healthcare

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Speaker 3: and your schooling and you know, and you're gonna be voting.

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Speaker 1: Is this so so?

751
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Speaker 3: The historical analogies people use here are completely off.

752
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Speaker 1: They don't even talk about.

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Speaker 3: How a third of people that showed up at Ellis Island,

754
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Speaker 3: a third of people that made it into this country

755
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Speaker 3: legally self deported from America because it was so hard

756
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Speaker 3: to make a go of it here, because the immigrants

757
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Speaker 3: were in such challenging legal immigrants were in such challenging circumstance.

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Speaker 3: I've been to the uh, the Tenement Museum and in

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Speaker 3: the Lower East Side of New York City. It's, man,

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Speaker 3: it is sorry you've ever been there, you see.

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Speaker 2: Now, I haven't been there, but I've I've read the

762
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Speaker 2: stories about the life and the way that people lived

763
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Speaker 2: in that era is quite a lot different than what.

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Speaker 3: People do Irish living, you know, eight eight in a room, uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, and and Italians and Jews living eight in

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Speaker 3: a room in the Lower East Side, and you know

767
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Speaker 3: there'd be outbreaks of communical disease, and I mentioned typhus

768
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Speaker 3: and typhoid and the other things, and they just be

769
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Speaker 3: stacking bodies like firewood in front of the building. And

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Speaker 3: you know, that was just the deal. They were immigrants.

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Speaker 3: You know, there was no there was no huge outcry

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Speaker 3: about now, it was inhumane and awful, But I'm just saying,

773
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Speaker 3: that's what people were getting on ships to come here for.

774
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Speaker 3: And that's why when you're talking about what's going on now,

775
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Speaker 3: people are flying here on a plane, walking across the

776
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Speaker 3: border and saying, where's all my free stuff? And they're

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Speaker 3: getting all their free stuff.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, we're four percent of the world

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Speaker 2: population United States. If you're fortunate enough to be a

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Speaker 2: citizen of the United States, we are four.

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Speaker 1: Percent of the United States population.

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Speaker 3: It's it's pretty wild to think about the rate at

783
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Speaker 3: which we are adding people illegally, and and.

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Speaker 1: How many people just don't have any issue with it.

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Speaker 3: And you know, the US is a pretty I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 3: US is a pretty arrogant place when it comes to

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Speaker 3: the rule of law and we're the only country I

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Speaker 3: know of that has true global taxation. You're an American citizen,

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Speaker 3: you live anywhere, you are subject to US federal income tax.

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Speaker 3: You're living in an island in the South Pacific, but

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Speaker 3: you have in a US passport, you are subject to

792
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Speaker 3: US tax law. You're subject to all US federal laws

793
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Speaker 3: while you're traveling abroad, no matter where you are. Very

794
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Speaker 3: few countries have anything like that. So they're gonna say,

795
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Speaker 3: you can live somewhere else and not be subject to

796
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Speaker 3: anything other than holding a US passport and we'll tax you.

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Speaker 3: But immigration law, we're not going to enforce that. So

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Speaker 3: people can live next door to you illegally and get

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Speaker 3: government benefits for free, and there's no problem. I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: this is why it's the biggest issue in the country

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Speaker 3: right now. Let's take some calls we come back. Eight

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Speaker 3: out three boxes of old videotapes and piles of photos

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Speaker 3: or the goal of determining who gets what. In a sense,

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Speaker 1: Slash Buck.

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Speaker 2: Got a new podcast he's launching soon, he writes at Newsweek,

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Speaker 2: Josh Hammer joins us now, Josh, appreciate you coming on.

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Speaker 2: We dove in right at the start of the show

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Speaker 2: to the eighty three million dollars verdict that Donald Trump

830
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Speaker 2: got hit by in the latest Carroll's civil lawsuit. It's

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Speaker 2: one of the craziest things I've ever seen. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's getting charged with defamation for saying he didn't sexually

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Speaker 2: assault someone, which seems like if he didn't say that,

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Speaker 2: she would be defaming him. What am I missing here?

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Speaker 2: Or do you think this is as bonkers as I do?

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Speaker 4: Clay, great to join you guys. I think it's as

837
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Speaker 4: bonkers as you do. I mean the analogy that I

838
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Speaker 4: drew this morning on my new show America on Trial,

839
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Speaker 4: which is a podcast we launched ay to cover all

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Speaker 4: of the various legal drama about the twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 4: The analogy that I made on the podcast this morning

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Speaker 4: was I was thinking back to Brett Kavanaugh. I mean,

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Speaker 4: let's think back to September twenty eighteen, back when Christine

844
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Speaker 4: blosie Ford was defaming him, when she was accusing him

845
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Speaker 4: of doing things that he did not do. And then Clay,

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Speaker 4: if you remember, Kavanaugh gets up there in that long

847
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Speaker 4: hearing in late September, very tense hearing, and he robustly

848
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Speaker 4: defends himself, and he accuses Senate Democrats of trying to

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Speaker 4: seek revenge for the Clinton and his critics in the media,

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Speaker 4: the liberals, the Democratic senators there on the DAIS they said, oh,

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Speaker 4: he's not acting judicial. This is not how you want

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Speaker 4: a Supreme Court justice to act, to which I responded,

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Speaker 4: when the world are you talking about if we are

854
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Speaker 4: choosing someone to be a US Supreme Court justice, or

855
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Speaker 4: hear with Trump, if we are choosing someone to be

856
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Speaker 4: a US president, I want someone who when he is

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Speaker 4: accused of growthing, sexually assaulting, rape, or something of that sort,

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Speaker 4: I want someone who's going to stand his ground and

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Speaker 4: defend his character and integrity. So it's absolutely as ridiculous

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Speaker 4: as you say it is it doubly or triptly ridiculous,

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Speaker 4: because if you look at the actual numbers involved here, Clauy,

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Speaker 4: you had eighteen point three million in compensatory damages. I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure how that be how they calculated that. That's

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Speaker 4: basically what the jury says was required to make her

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Speaker 4: whole again to that restitution, and then they had sixty

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Speaker 4: five million impunitive damages on top of them. I think

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Speaker 4: that's probably even unconstitute tutional when you have punative damages

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Speaker 4: that so far exceed compensatory damages. The Supreme Court for

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Speaker 4: the past twenty five thirty years has really been trying

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Speaker 4: to crack down on penitive damages. So I think Trump

871
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 4: is a very very strong case here on appeal.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Josh Hammer, he's got a new podcast launched

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Speaker 3: out there today, America on Trial with Josh Hammer and

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Speaker 3: Josh In terms of the legal wrangling as you see

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Speaker 3: it in Texas and with the federal government and this

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00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: razor wire situation, do you have any expectations that this

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Speaker 3: is going to now get escalated? Do you think the

878
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: Biden regime is going to back off? And ultimately is

879
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 3: this just the Is this going to stay with a

880
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: very limited decision to say, yeah, okay, federal government can

881
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 3: remove why or they want to remove it?

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00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: And that's that.

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Speaker 4: I think that's probably where it's going to stay. I'm

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00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 4: not sure that it's going to heat up more than that,

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00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 4: for the very simple reason that in an election year

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Speaker 4: like this, where Joe Biden is very worried looking at

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Speaker 4: the polls, he's looking at an approval rating when it

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00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 4: comes to the immigration issue, buck He's looking at an

889
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 4: approval rating of something like twenty five thirty points underwater,

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Speaker 4: maybe twenty points underwater on a good day. Facing those

891
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Speaker 4: political headwinds, he is not going to want to put

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00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 4: himself in a position where he's actually having a showdown

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Speaker 4: with Greg Abbott and the Texas Department of Public Safety

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00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 4: and the Texas Rangers at the border. So the order

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00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 4: from the Supreme Court last week effectively says that US

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00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 4: Border Patrol can go in and snip razor wire. It

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Speaker 4: says nothing whatsoever about whether Texas can actually install new wire.

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Speaker 4: So they're going to keep on doing that, or at

899
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Speaker 4: least they should, and it becomes something of a Mexican

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00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 4: standoff pun very much intended obviously between who's going to

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00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 4: drop their weapon first, and again, with those political headwinds

902
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 4: and the polling as it is, I think that Joe

903
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 4: Biden is going to drop his weapons, both literally and

904
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Speaker 4: proverbially speaking first. So I think that Abod and Texas

905
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: are going to stand strong here. They're backed by all

906
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 4: the Republican governors except for Scott up in Vermont. They're

907
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 4: going to stand strong, and they're going to come out

908
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 4: looking really good. At this is a huge political victory

909
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 4: in the making for Greg Abbitt.

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Speaker 2: I think in Texas, Josh, when you look at the

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Speaker 2: number of trials you're doing the new podcast breaking down

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Speaker 2: all the legal situation New York City, Washington, d C,

913
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 2: South Florida, and Atlanta, how many of those do you

914
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 2: think will go to trial and be resolved before nine

915
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: months from now when all of us have the opportunity

916
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: to go out and vote in November.

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Speaker 4: Claire, I'm not totally sure that any of them will

918
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Speaker 4: be resolved, to be honest with you, obviously, the prosecutors

919
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 4: are going to do everything they possibly can to get

920
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 4: these trials finished before then. The Florida case, the mar

921
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 4: A Lago case, they're looking like around May the trial

922
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 4: they's actually going to start, you know, Finnie, Well, it's

923
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 4: in Georgia right now. They're talking about August. That's a

924
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 4: long ways away. And that's to say nothing. I mean,

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00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 4: it was just on Friday the Georgia State Senate created

926
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Speaker 4: this new committee by a vote thirty to nineteen to

927
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 4: look into whether she is misallocating taxpayer resources there in Georgia.

928
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Speaker 4: She's got her own sex scandals, She's got to scandal

929
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Speaker 4: of her own there, so that's probably not going to

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Speaker 4: get underway anytime soon. I think if there's one case

931
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 4: that actually could make it to the finish line before

932
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 4: the November election, it probably actually is Alvin Bragg in

933
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 4: New York City, and that actually militates very favorably for

934
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 4: Donald Trump. That's actually a great thing for Trump. But

935
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Speaker 4: that's the only case that can make it across the

936
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Speaker 4: finish line because it is so transparently stupid. But it's

937
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 4: just it is so transparently a frivolous case. At the

938
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Speaker 4: time that Alvin Bragg unveiled those charges, like April, you

939
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Speaker 4: had even liberal commentators, the Jake Tappers of the world,

940
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 4: people like that. He couldn't even bring themselves to defend it.

941
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 4: The New York Times editorial board was even less an

942
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Speaker 4: enthusiastic itself. So if that really is the one case

943
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944
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Speaker 4: I think that Trump can make a big stink out

945
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946
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 4: big stink out of that. So I don't think the

947
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948
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Speaker 4: to be too terrible for him. If I'm right, of course,

949
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Speaker 4: there's a million variables here.

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Speaker 1: Josh Hammer.

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