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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Gradios How Stuff Works. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the show. My name is Matt, my name they

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Speaker 1: call me Ben. We are joined as always with our

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Speaker 1: super producer Paul Mission controlled decade. Most importantly, you are you.

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Speaker 1: You are here that makes this stuff they don't want

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Speaker 1: you to know. An episode that almost never saw the

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Speaker 1: light of day. It's true, this episode you're gonna here

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Speaker 1: today went through the longest q A period I think

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Speaker 1: we've ever had with any episode. That's true, Matt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just as a little behind the curtain. Generally, what we

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Speaker 1: do after we finish an episode, one or more of

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Speaker 1: us will listen back to the episode, give some notes.

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Speaker 1: Generally there's nothing, but sometimes there is. And in this case, um,

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Speaker 1: it's taken a couple of weeks for us to come

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Speaker 1: up with, um some major decisions about this, even whether

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Speaker 1: or not to release it right. Yes, yes, as you said,

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Speaker 1: so let's get the badger out of the bag here.

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Speaker 1: We recently spoke to uh incredibly controversial figure prominent in

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Speaker 1: the world of conspiracy theory or fringe thought named David Ike.

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Speaker 1: To his supporters or his fans or advocates, he is

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Speaker 1: seen as a voice that speaks truth to power in

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Speaker 1: some cases right uh. To his opponents, and there are

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Speaker 1: many he is considered either outright uh too far afield,

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Speaker 1: you know. Some people have used phrases like crack pot

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Speaker 1: or something. Other people have called him a virulent anti semit.

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Speaker 1: This is a very very big figure in this world.

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Speaker 1: But this is also very much a controversial figures, so

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Speaker 1: going into the interview with concerns and I'm actually not

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Speaker 1: on this interview um, which I guess was a good

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Speaker 1: thing for the process, because I was able to kind

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Speaker 1: come up with some some notes and some concerns that

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Speaker 1: an episode where we all sat down in a room

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Speaker 1: ultimately decided that because this gentleman looms so large in

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Speaker 1: this space that we occupy that we're like talking about,

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Speaker 1: and our whole you know, concept behind the show is

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Speaker 1: to present things open mindedly. Um, we decided that it

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Speaker 1: was probably a better idea and more of a service

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Speaker 1: to our listeners to put this episode out and let

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Speaker 1: this man defend himself and speak what he sees as

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Speaker 1: Spoiler alert, we do not get to everything. No, there's

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Speaker 1: no way. David Ike has been speaking and writing gosh

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Speaker 1: on the particular topics that we're interested in. And just

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Speaker 1: to that one point, uh, that that you both are

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Speaker 1: with with David Ike, no matter what you or I

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Speaker 1: think about him and his a lot of his views. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we hope that you find him as intriguing no matter

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Speaker 1: wanted to try something something a little bit different for

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Speaker 1: us in the course of this interview longtime listeners. As

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Speaker 1: you know, we often say that you are the most

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Speaker 1: important part of the show. You specifically you listening, No,

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Speaker 1: not him you. Uh. This this is where the rubber

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Speaker 1: start something on our Facebook page. Here's where it gets crazy,

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Speaker 1: where you can post the questions that you would like

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Speaker 1: to ask David Ike. And if this is something that

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Speaker 1: can attempt to arrange another interview wherein we ask those

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Speaker 1: questions of him. Yeah, that's a great idea, Ben, So

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Speaker 1: we we hope you'll listen and think about those questions

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Speaker 1: thank you to everyone listening as always. Uh and nol

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Speaker 1: You've probably had to sit through hearing different versions of

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Speaker 1: here we go, everyone, David Ike, so for a brief

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Speaker 1: to know. Since two thousand and eight, we have been

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Speaker 1: And David, you are a prominent figure and have been

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Speaker 1: exactly what's happened in my life. From that moment. My

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Speaker 1: prophecies to the limit where they would probably snap. You know,

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Speaker 1: control of human perception because from everything, everything comes from perception.

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Speaker 1: Behavior comes from perception. And what we've what we're looking

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Speaker 1: at is a a lifelong download from cradle to grave.

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Speaker 1: or openly talking about this because they're trying to put

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Speaker 1: a positive spin on it, we're on the cusp of

433
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Speaker 1: the technological hive mind where AI is connected to the

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Speaker 1: human brain through technological connections UM and people like curse

435
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Speaker 1: while even give a time period of it of around

436
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Speaker 1: twenty So if we have our our brain mind connected

437
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Speaker 1: to the cloud as occurs wild calls it via AI,

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Speaker 1: then what what a fantastic description or what other description

439
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Speaker 1: could you give that than a hive mind that they

440
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Speaker 1: are seeking to turn humanity into basically a series of

441
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Speaker 1: computer terminals on an aim internet. In terms of they,

442
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: it depends on what level you want to go to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, the questions that you're asking are the

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Speaker 1: questions that I asked um way back in the ninety

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Speaker 1: nineties when I'm trying to understand how things operate. These

446
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Speaker 1: are the questions that I asked, who are they? And

447
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Speaker 1: after thirty years of research that basically the world is

448
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Speaker 1: controlled like this. And I would say this that people

449
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Speaker 1: might look at people like me and say, you see

450
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Speaker 1: conspiracies everywhere? Okay, Well, first of all, the definition of

451
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Speaker 1: a conspiracy Dictionary definition is basically two or more people

452
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Speaker 1: conspiring to bring about a desired end, usually illegal. On

453
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Speaker 1: that basis, the world's drowning in conspiracies, So let's get

454
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Speaker 1: over this idea. There are no conspiracies which were asked

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Speaker 1: to believe. And by the way, the term conspiracy theorist

456
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Speaker 1: and conspiracy theory came into widespread use because of the

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Speaker 1: c I A provable fact. The CIA put out a

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Speaker 1: a round robin UH request to major media in America

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Speaker 1: in the nineties sixties, when people who were questioning the

460
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Speaker 1: Kennedy assassination were starting to make ground in terms of

461
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Speaker 1: people seeing that maybe the full story hasn't been told.

462
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Speaker 1: Are you kidding um? And they urged the media organizations

463
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Speaker 1: to use the terms conspiracy theorist and conspiracy theory to

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Speaker 1: discredit those that were questioning the Kennedy assassination and other

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Speaker 1: assassinations that happened in the sixties. Of course, Martin Luther, King,

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Speaker 1: Malcolm X, and Bobby Kennedy. So that's where it came from,

467
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Speaker 1: and all these years later, without a clue where it

468
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Speaker 1: came from, the mainstream media just parrot conspiracy theory. And

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Speaker 1: the question they never asked when they parrot it, Oh,

470
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Speaker 1: it's an conspiracy theory is a simple question which any mature,

471
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Speaker 1: intelligent person would ask. Okay, but is it true? And

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Speaker 1: if you look at so called conspiracy theories and look

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Speaker 1: at one so called conspiracy theories in my books going

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Speaker 1: back to the es they've happened or are happening, you know,

475
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Speaker 1: maybe that's another self fulfilling prophecy. Maybe I've made that happen.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. But in terms of day, this is

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Speaker 1: how the world is basically controlled. And we can go

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Speaker 1: deeper into this if you like. One so explained. Imagine

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Speaker 1: a spider's web um and each strand of the web

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Speaker 1: is a secret society, a semi secret group or organizations

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Speaker 1: and agencies that we see in the the world of

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Speaker 1: the scene. At the center of the web is the spider,

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Speaker 1: as I call it, and that's where this whole control

484
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Speaker 1: agenda for humanity is coming from. The strands immediately around

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Speaker 1: the spider are the most exclusive secret societies. Some of

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Speaker 1: them don't even have names to make them harder to

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Speaker 1: track down, and they will be peopled overwhelmingly by those

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Speaker 1: that the public will never have heard of. You then

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Speaker 1: come out from the spiders, still in the hidden, and

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Speaker 1: you start to hit the secret society is that we've

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Speaker 1: heard of but we don't know what they do. Be

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Speaker 1: in the core of the Freemason's Opus Day, the Knights Templar,

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Speaker 1: the inner core of the Jesuit Order, Knights of Malta, etcetera.

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Speaker 1: And then you meet what I call the cusp organizations,

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Speaker 1: which are groupings overwhelmingly owners thinked tanks where the hidden

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Speaker 1: meets the scene, and these are the Builderberg Group, the

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Speaker 1: Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Club of Rome,

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Speaker 1: and so on. And then you go out from them

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Speaker 1: and you're into the world of the scene. You're into governments,

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Speaker 1: government agencies, cartels, corporations, banking systems, et cetera, media ownership,

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Speaker 1: and in the world of the scene, the decisions being made,

502
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: constantly impacting on the direction and nature of human society,

503
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: appear to be random, but actually that society changing, transforming

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00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: ones are coming from the spider. That's where it's orchestrated from.

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Speaker 1: And that's why as I go around the world, as

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Speaker 1: I've been many many times in the last thirty years,

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00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: you see the same things happening at the same time,

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Speaker 1: and you see the same types of legislation being introduced,

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Speaker 1: often with the same excuses and sometimes even worded almost

510
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Speaker 1: the same because it's being centrally orchestrated. If you think

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Speaker 1: of a corporation, a global corporation, say McDonald's, they have

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Speaker 1: a headquarters in the United States, but all around the

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Speaker 1: world you have McDonald's in the various countries, and they

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Speaker 1: all are the same brand, the same nature. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you go into McDonald's in Russia or South Africa, it's

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Speaker 1: the same McDonald's as in downtown Atlanta, because that network,

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Speaker 1: that global network of McDonald's is being centrally orchestrated. So

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Speaker 1: they all look the same, they are at the same

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Speaker 1: they all basically respond to a central point. This is

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Speaker 1: how this web works. So if you look at the

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Speaker 1: oil industry and the biotech industry, and your Monsanto's and

522
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Speaker 1: your bays, etcetera. And you look at these other cartels

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Speaker 1: like the pharmaceutical cartel, in the end, if you go

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Speaker 1: deep enough into their structure, you're meet the point where

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Speaker 1: they attached to this web. The vast majority of people

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Speaker 1: in these groupings will not be aware of what their

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Speaker 1: their cartel or their corporation is really about. But at

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Speaker 1: one point deep in the in the structure, it will

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Speaker 1: attach to this web. And at that point, the pharmaceutical cartel,

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Speaker 1: the oil cartel, the biotech cartel, et cetera, are all

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Speaker 1: controlled by the same force, and that's how it's orchestrated. Okay,

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00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: so David, this is all This is all fascinating stuff,

533
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Speaker 1: and it's it's interesting how has been and I are

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Speaker 1: listening to you, how we've covered a lot of the

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Speaker 1: things that you would uh, that you've mentioned here as

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Speaker 1: parts of the web, you know, the varying aspects of it.

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Speaker 1: Over the course of your career, you've had a lot

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Speaker 1: of criticisms thrown at you, and and one of the

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Speaker 1: one of the primary ones that at least we've found

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Speaker 1: in our research is is that mentioning of this um

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Speaker 1: even the symbology of the black spider at the center

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Speaker 1: of the web and um hearkening back to the protocols

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00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: of the Elder of zion Um, that a lot of

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Speaker 1: these beliefs, at least to some people's view who have

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00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: criticized you, appear to be anti Semitic in nature in

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Speaker 1: some way, at least the basis of the beliefs around

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Speaker 1: which the you know, some of the stuff you're talking about. UM,

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Speaker 1: I just want I wonder how now, in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: how do you respond to to those critics. Well, I

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00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: don't respond to critics. We're talking garbage. Let me tell

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00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: you about my philosophy on life. My philosophy on life

552
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Speaker 1: and the nature of life is that we are consciousness.

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00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: We are awareness. We are a state of awareness. That's

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00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: the eye, that's the eternal lie. And all the labels

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00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: we give ourselves, whether they're Jewish or Muslim, or Atheist,

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Speaker 1: or Christian or Indo, or black or white, or whatever

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00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: income bracket, whatever cultural background. These are not who we are.

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Speaker 1: These are experiences that we're having. What we all are,

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Speaker 1: whether we call ourselves Jewish or Muslim or whatever. What

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00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: we all are is the awareness in the end, the

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00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: same awareness, a different point of attention, in the same awareness,

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00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: having different experiences. So I completely reject as a self

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Speaker 1: identity all these labels, which are basically sub dividing all

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Speaker 1: the time into smaller and smaller labels of self identity,

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00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: which what can be then what played off against each

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Speaker 1: other to divide and rule the population. So I will

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00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: not take lectures on discrimination from those that fundamentally, whoever

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00:35:54,360 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: they are, identify their I with their label and perceive

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00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: everything from the filter of that label, when I'm actually

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00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: the one saying, actually, you know, we're all the same

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Speaker 1: consciousness having different experiences, which is the ultimate in inclusivity,

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00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: to use the word of the time, it's the ultimate

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Speaker 1: in not discriminating between labels, because I reject them all

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Speaker 1: as as as a self identity rather than an experience,

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Speaker 1: so that when you when you're coming from that perspective

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Speaker 1: of reality and life, and you are being accused of

577
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: the very opposite of what you are, then there has

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00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: to be another reason for it. And if someone is

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Speaker 1: revealing things as I am, across a vast spectrum of information,

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00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: um that the system in totality, the core that I'm

581
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: talking about, doesn't want people to hear here. Then if

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00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: you can't discredit them by having an open debate and

583
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: they won't debate with me, I've tried, UM, then you

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00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: you don't debate with them on what they're saying, You

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00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: accuse them of what they're saying on the basis of

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00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: lying about what they're saying. And that's that's That's basically

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00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, explain this to me. I've

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00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: got a movie coming out on June the fourth, just

589
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: what four days from now, called Renegade, story about my

590
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: life but also about my work. I'm in that movie,

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00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: the word Jewish and Zionism is not mentioned at all.

592
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: And yet, when there was supposed to be a premiere

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Speaker 1: of that movie at the Aero Theater in Santa Monica,

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, theater owned by an organization called American Cinematique,

595
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: it was canceled two hours before that the film was

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00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: supposed to be shown with all the upset and disruption

597
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: and chaos that it caused for the audience, because I

598
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: was supposed to be antisemitic. The people that canceled it,

599
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: I've not seen the film. They don't know anything about me.

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00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: But it was canceled. Why because they were told what

601
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm about. I'm sure they were told what was in

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00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: the film, where nothing of the kind was in the film.

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00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: You know, if you stood by my side over the

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Speaker 1: last few years, you would realize, and probably I would

605
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: think your jaw would drop if you realize how easy

606
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: it is to destroy someone's freedom of speech just by

607
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: lying about them. And what we're looking at here is

608
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: not a a group of organizations, because it's very coordinated

609
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: that are trying to stop discrimination against Jewish people. It's

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Speaker 1: not about Jewish people. And I'll tell you one reason why.

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00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: If you're a Jewish person and you criticize the government

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00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: in Israel, you are going to get abuse from these

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00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: same organizations on a scale that's much greater than even

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Speaker 1: I get. Because it's easy to dismiss someone and accuse

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00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: someone and demonize someone as anti Semitic what actually means

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00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: actually means anti Arab, by the way, when when they're

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00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: not Jewish, it's much more difficult to do that. When

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00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: they're Jewish people saying the same thing, so they get

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00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: more flat and more abuse from these organizations than even

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Speaker 1: I do. It's not about protecting Jewish people from discrimination.

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Speaker 1: It's about protecting the Israeli government from criticism and exposure.

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00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: And when you've got a movie that doesn't even do

623
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: that doesn't even talk about it being banned on the

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00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: grounds of what they've been told about me, then you

625
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: see how easy it is to silence someone by lying

626
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: about But I don't care. I don't care. I know

627
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: what I think, I know where I'm coming from, and

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00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: that's all that matters to me. And if people want

629
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: to lie about me, well be my guest, but it

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00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 1: ain't going to stop me. Absolutely. So to to UH,

631
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Speaker 1: two important points here. First, I I believe in hope

632
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: that everyone listening to this episode can agree that the

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Speaker 1: government of a country is not the people or the

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00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:31,959
Speaker 1: population of a country. UH. And furthermore, one of the

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00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: criticisms UH speaking of freedom of speech that that we

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Speaker 1: found cited in earlier interviews was an excerpt from your

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00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: book and The Truth Shall Set You Free. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to I'd like to read this and hear your response

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00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: to it, uh, and and to verify that this is uh,

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00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: this is your your words, your speech. It is quote

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00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: I strongly believe that a small Jewish clique which has

642
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: contempt for the massive Jewish people, worked with non Jews

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00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: to create the First World War, the Russian Revolution, and

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Speaker 1: the Second World War. This end quote, This passage continues,

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Speaker 1: and this is This is one of the things that

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Speaker 1: we see critics citing when when they raise charges of

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Speaker 1: discrimination and anti semitism. It sounds is if it sounds

648
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Speaker 1: as if you've clearly established in this interview and other

649
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Speaker 1: interviews that your opinion is that all people fundamentally are

650
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Speaker 1: the are are the same, right. But in this this passage,

651
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: I think is one of the things that critics immediately

652
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Speaker 1: go to when they're when they're saying that you are uh,

653
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Speaker 1: discriminatory or anti Semitic. Could you could you respond to

654
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Speaker 1: that quick? Let me ask you this Let me ask

655
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Speaker 1: you this question, please. UM. If if I had said

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Speaker 1: that a small claque of Chinese people were involved, or

657
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: a small cliaku of Argentinean people are a small clique

658
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Speaker 1: of Australians. Would that be a problem, No, it wouldn't.

659
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: So why is it a problem because they're mentioning Jewish people.

660
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: Just take the Russian Revolution. You see what what's been

661
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Speaker 1: happening is these groups that ultimately answered to the Israeli government,

662
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: not to Jewish people. They just claimed to speak for

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Speaker 1: Jewish people, use Jewish people as a front when the Jewish,

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Speaker 1: like every other group of people, Jewish people as a

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00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: vast spectrum of opinion. And when you when you look

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Speaker 1: at the Russian Revolution, um, the the documents have come out,

667
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: they've been published in other books decades ago, people who

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00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: have done a scholarly research into the Russian Revolution and

669
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Speaker 1: found that there was a fantastic ratio of Jewish people

670
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: involved in the Russian Revolution compared with everyone else, major

671
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: major ratio. Now here's the other thing is one of

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Speaker 1: the things that happened after the Russian Revolution is that

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Speaker 1: very large numbers of Jewish people in Russia were subject

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Speaker 1: to programs, were subject to discrimination, were subject to violence.

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Speaker 1: So how do you square that? Well, you square that

676
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: by understanding that Chinese people do horrible things to Chinese

677
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Speaker 1: people as well as nice things, and American people do

678
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: horrible things to American people as well as nice things.

679
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: When do you take any group of people and you

680
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: say this group is this, you are completely missing the point.

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Speaker 1: You show me any group of people, any cultural group,

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00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 1: any religious group, anywhere in the world, and I'll show

683
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: you nice people, I'll show your ugly people, I'll show

684
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: you okay people, and I'll show you psychopaths. Why should

685
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Speaker 1: any group of people be different from from that when

686
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Speaker 1: it's all the same. So when you call out in

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Speaker 1: this case, what I would call psychopaths, you are, by definition,

688
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Speaker 1: according to the propaganda, accusing that entire group of being

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Speaker 1: a psychopath, which you're not doing. I mean, some of

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Speaker 1: the the people Jewish people have suffered enormously from the

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Speaker 1: actions of other Jewish people, so the same with every

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Speaker 1: other cultural group. But it's it's um and I will

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Speaker 1: not be intimidated from delivering my truth and the factual

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Speaker 1: research that I've done just because someone's gonna hurl abuse

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Speaker 1: and mendacity at me. I won't do it, and I

696
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: won't defend myself either. I've got a thing to found

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Speaker 1: myself for. If you see yourself as a label, and

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Speaker 1: you see if your label to be superior to all

699
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Speaker 1: the other labels, then don't accuse me of racism, because

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00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: that's what you see around the world because so many

701
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: people are trying to impose their label and what their

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Speaker 1: label represents on everyone else. What coup people just chill

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00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: out and just you know, if you want to be

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00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: that and you live your life like that, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: good luck to you. Just don't e pose it on

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Speaker 1: everybody else, whoever you are, whatever background you are, David,

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Speaker 1: I was having a discussion with my wife last night

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Speaker 1: about a quote of yours that speaks to this. I think,

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Speaker 1: really well, I'm just gonna really really fast if if

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Speaker 1: you become mesmerized by all the labels I am are this,

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Speaker 1: I am are that, then that's how we get caught

712
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: in the illusion. The labels are getting played off against labels,

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Speaker 1: and the labels are at war with each other, while

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Speaker 1: the few with their hands controlling the strings of all

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Speaker 1: the bloody labels are laughing their socks off. And she

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Speaker 1: and I both identified uh strongly with that. Just when

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Speaker 1: you when you think about especially culture on the Internet

718
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Speaker 1: today and the oppositions that exist these binary systems in

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00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: almost everything where you are for or against this, for

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00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: against that. UM. It's it's fascinating to me. And what

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00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: I really want to get to is something that Gosh

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Speaker 1: for for a decade now, for a decade now roughly,

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Speaker 1: UM that I've been thinking about, something that you've been

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Speaker 1: speaking of, and it's the the binary system that exists

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Speaker 1: within all the energy that exists in the universe. The

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00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: concepts that you that you brought forth in that still

727
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Speaker 1: I believe, I believe and I can't speak to you,

728
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: but I believe these are still the same UM beliefs

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00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: and at least beliefs of the energy systems that exist

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Speaker 1: in the universe. The Godhead versus the the opposition power,

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Speaker 1: the Um, the lucifer. I think you referred to it

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Speaker 1: as A several times, but that that's what the Secret

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Speaker 1: Society is referred to it as. Yes, that's their God. Well,

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Speaker 1: I want to get back to UM. And I think

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Speaker 1: my understanding on this is correct, at least from from

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Speaker 1: what you've you've said in the past. But it has

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Speaker 1: something to do with the planet Saturn. Can you talk

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Speaker 1: about that? WHOA? I mean, that is such a massive

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Speaker 1: subject and it needs so much background for something that

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Speaker 1: appears on first hearing to be crazy to make logical sense.

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Speaker 1: That's why I go into it in the books in

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Speaker 1: detail and with all the background. But let's just say

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Speaker 1: that Saturn where it is now? Um, I mean, how

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Speaker 1: how did ancient societies see it? How do they see Saturn?

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Speaker 1: How do they work out what satin is or even

746
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Speaker 1: if it's a planet or whatever? They couldn't And yet,

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00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: again and again and again you find that ancient societies

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Speaker 1: worship Saturn. How did they do that if it was

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Speaker 1: where it is now? And there's been some tremendous research.

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Speaker 1: There's a a whole scientific movement now which is known

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Speaker 1: as the Electric Universe, which looks at the electrical electromagnetic

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00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: nature of reality but also encompasses, um, the ancient myths

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Speaker 1: about Saturn. Because the myths about Saturn are absolutely phenomenal

754
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: in their number and their nature and when they've been

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00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: there's a particular guy who's done a tremendous amount of

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Speaker 1: research on this. When you break down these myths about Saturn,

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00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: it's very clear they're not talking about Saturn as where

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Speaker 1: it is now. They're talking about Saturn as where it

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Speaker 1: was when the myths were created. And it was a

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Speaker 1: son of the Earth Um, and we had a twin

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Speaker 1: sun system, the one we see now, but also Saturn,

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Speaker 1: which was much dominant in the Earth sky. And what

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Speaker 1: followed was a cataclysmic cataclysm in the heavens, which is

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Speaker 1: come down in the words of myth as the war

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Speaker 1: of the gods in the heavens. And this is when,

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Speaker 1: if you followed the research, that Mars became what we

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Speaker 1: now call a dead planet, and so many other planets

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Speaker 1: went walk about in this whole period, and the Earth

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Speaker 1: um nearly nearly came to an end. There's a book

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Speaker 1: I read a long time ago by some researchers who

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Speaker 1: basically looked at these ancient myths of the cataclysm that

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Speaker 1: struck the Earth, which was the Saturn cataclysm and others involved,

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Speaker 1: and they looked against that in the same book at

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Speaker 1: the geological and biological history and evidence of the Earth,

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Speaker 1: and they found that they correlated. They were just fantastic

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Speaker 1: upheavals on the Earth, as there would be if what

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Speaker 1: happened happened. And and this is that leads us to

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Speaker 1: the myth of the end of Atlantis and New and

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Speaker 1: the Muria and these great civilizations disappearing under the oceans

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Speaker 1: and all these stories that come out through history, and

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Speaker 1: when you go around the ancient or cultural native societies

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Speaker 1: that have carried this ancient knowledge through the generations, you

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Speaker 1: find that they all have the same basic story of

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Speaker 1: this period when there was this war in the heavens

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Speaker 1: and the earth nearly came to an end. And so

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Speaker 1: that was the start of the story that I that

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Speaker 1: I tell in the book that led to where Satin

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Speaker 1: is now. And again, when they're describing Saturn in its

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Speaker 1: previous position, they do not describe rings. They don't describe

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Speaker 1: Saturn with rings at all, just as a son. And

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00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: so where did the rings come from? And so I

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00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: go into that in the books as well. And there

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00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: have been some scientists, one in particular who was a mainstream,

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Speaker 1: middle of the road, um you know, songsheet scientists who

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Speaker 1: started to look at pictures coming back from the Voyager

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Speaker 1: spacecraft that took pictures of Saturn at quite close range

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Speaker 1: in the nine eighties, and then he started to see

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Speaker 1: even from those pictures that the rings were changing and

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Speaker 1: they weren't static, and there was something malleable about And

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Speaker 1: then when the Galileo UH spacecraft came through to Saturn

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Speaker 1: in four or something like that, and he looked at

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00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: their pictures with the rings, and he saw phenomenal differences

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Speaker 1: in them. He also, by the way, saw um what

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00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: he called electro magnetic vehicles, vast electro magnetic fields that

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Speaker 1: that were in the rings, and and he's put pictures

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Speaker 1: in his book. He produced a book called The Ringmakers

807
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: of Saturn some time ago. He's in his nineties now,

808
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 1: and you see some what he calls exhaust coming out

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Speaker 1: of this, these electromagnetic fields that are actually making the

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Speaker 1: rings and changing the rings. And you know, I go

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Speaker 1: into all this in some detail in the in the

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00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: great detail in the books. And when you do, you

813
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: realize that m. Saturn is very different to what we've

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Speaker 1: been told, and the whole story of the Solar system

815
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Speaker 1: is very different to what we've been told, but fits

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00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: perfectly the ancient myths about what happened in ancient history

817
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: to the US and uh on human society. Let's take

818
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: a quick break here. We'll be back with David soon,

819
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: but for now, let's hear a word from our sponsor.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're back man, David. Okay, you you are

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Speaker 1: you are famous for your for your lectures and the

822
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: lengths of those lectures and how much you pack in

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00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: when you're speaking on subjects. And uh, man I I

824
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: heard as soon as you started answering that question when

825
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: you when you reacted with woe we hold okay, hold on,

826
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: we gotta go into so much stuff here. Um, it's

827
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: just it's so true because Uh, there's so much information

828
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: that you have to build up upon. And really, honestly, David,

829
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Speaker 1: that's what we do with this show. We try and

830
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: build up on all these things so then we can

831
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: harken back to you know, this episode that we covered

832
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: this thing. Listen to that for background. Um, you know

833
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: your your work over everything that is covered in Renegade,

834
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: the movie coming out with Orchard. It's just there's so

835
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: much there. And you know, in the past, people get

836
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: stuck on some of the things that you've said, and

837
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: you get criticized for those things as people get stuck

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00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: on the what seemed what's at least, um, what people

839
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 1: experience in their minds when they hear it as something

840
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: like a reptilian uh, you know, race of extraterrestrials or

841
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: something like that. That's what sticks with people. Um. But

842
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: there's so much to be discussed here. Um, Can can

843
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: we talk just really quickly right before we end here

844
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: about the stakes that we find ourselves in, um, both

845
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: with regards to humanity, you know, as a species, but

846
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: also with our planet Earth. And why is Earth? Why

847
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: is Earth? And the small little bipedal beings that walk

848
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: around on it? Why are those two things so important? Well,

849
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: how important they are is relative. Obviously they're very important

850
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: to us. But like I say, it's the size of

851
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: a billions of a pinhead compared with the size of

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00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: the universe, and we should not forget. You know, people

853
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: tend to see everything as it appears in the moment,

854
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: and they solidify that into a view of how things are.

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00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: Just to give you an example, until the nineteen twenties,

856
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: mainstream science believe there was one galaxy in the universe.

857
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: Less than a hundred years later, the latest highest estimate

858
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: that I've seen from science is two trillion galaxies in

859
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: the universe. So there's a great quote from Socrates in

860
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: ancient Greece that's attributed to him. Anyway, wisdom is knowing

861
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: how little we know. That's what keeps your mind open

862
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: to all possibility and stops it closing and coagulating and

863
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: becoming concrete like around a very narrow perception of reality. Um.

864
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: And where we are now is, from a human point

865
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: of view, a very very critical period. As I've been

866
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: pointing out for thirty years. You know, people have dismissed

867
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: what I've said in the past and laughed at it

868
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: because it wasn't tangible to them. But as I said

869
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: many years ago, you can only manipulate under the radar

870
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: for so long to transform human society. Before you have

871
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: to transform human society, and it has to break the

872
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: surface where people can see it. And we are big

873
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: time there now. So if you look at just one

874
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: level of what I've been saying all these years, but

875
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: we were going to eventually face the imposition of an

876
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: Orwellian um tyranny that would destroy freedom of speech and

877
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: would not allow official narratives to be challenged, Well we

878
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: are there now, big time. And let's just go back

879
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: to this sequence again. Perception, which controls human behavior comes

880
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: from information received. You control information received so they only

881
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,959
Speaker 1: see official narratives. You will impose um perception and thus

882
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: control behavior. And what we're seeing now with the Silicon

883
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: Valley giants, in my view, all of which ultimately are

884
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: controlled by the same force. It's why they operate in unit.

885
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: In unison, we're seeing the systematic deleation of freedom of

886
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: speech increasingly, not even through human hand, but through AI,

887
00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: which is increasingly controlling everything. Now. I've been warning about

888
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: this for such a long time, long before people like

889
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: Elon Musk, who has warned what a danger it is

890
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: and then opens a company to advance it, which is

891
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: kind of strange, and keeps putting satellites up to beam

892
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: WiFi Internet at every inch of the planet, which is

893
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: absolutely fundamental to this technological control system that I've written

894
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: about for so long. Because the idea is that you

895
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: attach the human brain to AI, so AI becomes the

896
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: human mind, it becomes human thinking, it becomes human emotional response.

897
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: And to do that you have to have what people

898
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: like kurs Wild called the cloud everywhere, Otherwise you can't

899
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: attach people to it. And this is why we're seeing

900
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: this explosion of satellites going up, pounding the Internet at

901
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: every inch of the Earth. That's what they want. Eventually,

902
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: they want more than twenty thousand satellites up there. We're

903
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: now even seeing astronomers complaining in the last few days

904
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: about the fact that they're destroying the night sky with

905
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 1: these things. There's so many well they've seen nothing yet

906
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: and and Elon Musk is right in the middle of it.

907
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: And I would love to ask him how he squares

908
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: AI could be the end of humanity with what he's doing,

909
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: which is allowing that process to happen. It's very very strange.

910
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: He's either bewildered or his kid in us somehow. But

911
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: the thing is that we're now having in particularly you,

912
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: but all of us in the end, particularly you in America,

913
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: are now having this five G rolled out without any

914
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: tests whatsoever, and without any independent studies funded by government

915
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: or anyone else to see what the consequences are, not

916
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: just physically but psychological of this um this five G

917
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 1: millimeter frequency band, which is actually a weapon. It's been

918
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: It's come out of the military, you know, the American

919
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: military and law enforcement. They have trucks that they used

920
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: to scatter crowds. They drive them up, you can see

921
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: them on the internet, and then they unleash this frequency

922
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: and the frequency is decoded by the skin of the protesters,

923
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: because the human body is actually an antenna. The cutting

924
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: edge of science has been aware of that for a

925
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: very long time. And if people feel their skin is

926
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: on fire, and what did they do? They scatter and

927
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: they run. That technology uses the same band of frequency

928
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: as five G, which because it doesn't travel as far

929
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: as as as what we've had up to this point,

930
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: and you can't use um big transmitters transmitting along distance,

931
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: they're going to have to put They are putting across

932
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: America as I speak, boxes, little boxes on lamp standards, etcetera,

933
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: along this every street to beam this stuff out, like

934
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: in front of children's bedrooms, etcetera. And the reason they're

935
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: doing it without testing it's because if there was testing,

936
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: as some independent scientists have come out and said this

937
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: is a potential catastrophe for the human race, then it

938
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't be allowed to play out. So you don't test

939
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: it if you know you're going to get the wrong result.

940
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: And the whole foundation of five G is to empower

941
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: something called the smart grid. And the smart grid is

942
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: the reason that almost everything that comes out these days

943
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: is called smart. Smart They're smart that smart meat, the

944
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: smart car, smart TVs, ETCeteras. Because all these smart concepts

945
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: and smart technologies are designed to connect and communicate with

946
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: each other and the idea is to create we're talking

947
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: about smart cities now they're starting to be built where

948
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: the entire city is controlled by AI. This is the

949
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: same because we're touching now on the present into the future.

950
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: And what I appreciate what I what I appreciate you

951
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: mentioning is something that may not have occurred to many

952
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: of our listeners before hearing what you just said. So

953
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: just to re emphasize what you're saying here, we are entering.

954
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: We already exist within an orwelly in networked world, and

955
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: this touches on. This touches on multiple things, you know.

956
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: It touches on the extinction of an ownership society into

957
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: a service economy. It enters into the extinction of privacy,

958
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: right if privacy still exists? Connected might yeah, yeah, And

959
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: what I think most of our fellow listeners would would

960
01:02:55,240 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: want to know is given given your history of accurately

961
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: in some cases accurately predicting events from from your earlier work,

962
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: such as the child abuse cover ups that existing continue

963
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: in the United Kingdom and abroad, as well as predictions

964
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: regarding a surveillance state. I believe the UK has the

965
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: highest density of CCTV monitoring in the world. Uh, what

966
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: what observation, advice, prediction, even words of encouragement would you

967
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: have for people who have listened to this episode and

968
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: are thinking, for lack of a for lack of a

969
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: better phrase, pardon my French, holy sh it, what do

970
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: I do now? Right? Well, maybe I could just briefly

971
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: explain how you can predict the future in relation to

972
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: what we've been talking about. There are two worlds operating

973
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: in the same world, and these two worlds have very

974
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: different levels of information. This is why so much information

975
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: is suppressed from the the the reality the world that

976
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: the mass of the human population lives in. This cabal

977
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: and its networks operate from a very different level of knowledge.

978
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: It's knowledge that he's kept from the rest of the population,

979
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: and it's passed on through the upper echelons of the

980
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: secret society network through the generations, and they don't want

981
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: us to know that. What people like me do is

982
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: go in search of it. And so if you are

983
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: in that other world, which is much more advanced in

984
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: its knowledge and knowledge of technology and knowledge of how

985
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: reality works, knowledge of how to manipulate human psychology, then

986
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: you can project a future agenda a future sequence of

987
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: happenings to transform human society, which are not known about

988
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: in the mainstream of human society. But if you can,

989
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: through research and sweat and hours, uncover that, then you

990
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: can predict the future. Because what you're actually doing is

991
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: not so much predicting the future per se, but predicting

992
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: or revealing the sequence of events that this agenda has

993
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: in mind for humanity. And if nothing intervenes to stop

994
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: that sequence unfolded, which is the whole point of what

995
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: I do to stimulate that intervention, then it will unfold.

996
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: So now we can start to understand why old As

997
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: Huxley could be so phenomenally accurate in Brave New World,

998
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: written or published in the nineties, written and published in

999
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties, in terms of current events involving drugs

1000
01:05:54,200 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: and genetics and technology. We can now understand why George

1001
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: orwell real named Eric Blair could be so phenomenally accurate

1002
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: with his book in four and why someone that I

1003
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: have quoted at length in my last but one book

1004
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: called Phanto himself. He was a doctor called Dr Richard Day,

1005
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: a big time Rockefeller family insider, and in nineteen sixty nine,

1006
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: no one knows why he did this, but I'm glad

1007
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: you did. And he was addressing a group of pediatricians

1008
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in nine, and for some reason he

1009
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: asked people to turn off recording equipment and not to

1010
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: take notes because he was going to tell him how

1011
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: the world was going to change, because basically what he

1012
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: represented was going to change it. And he reeled off

1013
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: um a long list of things that were going to

1014
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: happen in the world, and when you read them sixty

1015
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: nine because one doctor called Dr Lawrence Dunegan did take notes,

1016
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: and later he started to talk about it because he

1017
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: was realizing that the world described by Day in ninety

1018
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: six nine was happening. Richard Day described in nineteen sixty

1019
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 1: nine the Internet and how it worked. He said in

1020
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine, we are going to make boys and

1021
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: girls the same he said in nine. We are going

1022
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: to have mass movements of people from cultures to culture

1023
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: to break down cultures all over the world. And this

1024
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: was nine. So how is that possible? Because if you

1025
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: are part of, or can research into that projected agenda,

1026
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: operating in the secret society networks, you can predict the future.

1027
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: That's how it's done. That's why my books have been

1028
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 1: so accurate and predicting the future. They've just been saying,

1029
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: this is what's planned by this agenda, and the idea

1030
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: is to intervene in it. And what we need to

1031
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: do first of all, in fact, primarily is d program.

1032
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: You know, people talk about waking up, people must wake up.

1033
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: What does that mean? It means deprogramming from the perceptual

1034
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: programs that we've been downloading from cradle to grave. You

1035
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: come out of the womb, your parents are immediately influencing

1036
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: your perceptions from the perspective of the sequence you're about

1037
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: to go through. You at a ludicrously young age. Now

1038
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: you've only just arrived your into the education system, as

1039
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,480
Speaker 1: it's bravely called, and for the rest of your formative

1040
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: years you are given the system states version of everything

1041
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: and reality of how things are, how things aren't, of

1042
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: history of everything. And also through that same period you

1043
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: are being prepared psychologically to obey authority for the rest

1044
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: of your life without question. They tell you from the

1045
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: earliest age when you can talk, when you can eat,

1046
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 1: when you can go to the toilet. In in the

1047
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: school system, these are all psychological preparations. And then you

1048
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: go out into the world, peer pressure around you, people

1049
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: who've been through the same programming sausage machine that you

1050
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: have and bought the the the program bought that version

1051
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 1: of normal. They then put pressure on you if you

1052
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: want to break out of it, they ridicule you or

1053
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: or condemn you or whatever. The mainstream media is pounding

1054
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: out that same version of reality that all the way

1055
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: through your life. Mainstream science is coming from the same

1056
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: perception of normal. So is mainstream medicine, so is mainstream everything,

1057
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: and and so if all you've basically heard is one

1058
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: set of facts, norms, whatever, you are very likely to

1059
01:09:55,439 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: believe them. This is why Muslim people overwhelming come from

1060
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 1: Muslim families, and and and Christian people come from Christian families, etcetera.

1061
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: Hindu families people come from Hindu families because as they

1062
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: were growing up, that's the belief system they heard about,

1063
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: so it they absorbed it. This is what the system does.

1064
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,839
Speaker 1: And what people need to just do is just stop

1065
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 1: and say, why do I believe what I do? And

1066
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: am I really saying that although I live within a

1067
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:37,520
Speaker 1: smear of no point, not nor five percent of the universe.

1068
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 1: All I need to know is the tiny band of

1069
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: possibility that I've been taught through the school system, but

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Speaker 1: I read in religious books. I mean, it's ridiculous. You've

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Speaker 1: got the entirety of possibility, uh in the great forever

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Speaker 1: of infinite reality, and yet were confined to this narrow

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Speaker 1: band of frequen which is the only frequence is we

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Speaker 1: can see. And we believe that a few people called authority,

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Speaker 1: within this tidy band of frequency are telling us all

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Speaker 1: we need to know. It's nonsense. And if you're in

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Speaker 1: authority and you want control, you you you tell people

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Speaker 1: to believe what will allow you to have that control.

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Speaker 1: Therefore you control by control of information. What we need

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Speaker 1: to do to escape from that is to stop believing

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Speaker 1: these these norms that we've been pressured to believe in,

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Speaker 1: and start to open our minds to other possibility. And

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Speaker 1: when you do, and I know this from people I've

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Speaker 1: spoken to and people have read my books all over

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Speaker 1: the world, When you have access to these two two

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Speaker 1: other explanations for the world, they make more sense than

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Speaker 1: what people have been told up to this point. And

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Speaker 1: and and your mind starts to flow, and you start

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Speaker 1: to stop seeing pixels and things in isolation and you

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Speaker 1: start to see how everything connects. But you've got to

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Speaker 1: let your mind open, otherwise you can't do it. And

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Speaker 1: that is that that idea of a larger picture is

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Speaker 1: perhaps a good positive analog to the web described earlier.

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Speaker 1: Everyone listening to this show is well aware that the

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Speaker 1: best way to learn about something is to read multiple

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Speaker 1: views on it, and the and the biggest thing that

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Speaker 1: any individual or group can learn about is the nature

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Speaker 1: of this wild ride that we call reality. David, I

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time with your time

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Speaker 1: with us today. Now I speak for many people in

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Speaker 1: our audience who are right now yelling at their phone

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Speaker 1: or at their at their computer. However they hear this

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Speaker 1: because I'm sure that there are dozens and dozens of

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Speaker 1: things that we were not able to get to today. However,

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Speaker 1: we do want people to know that they can learn

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Speaker 1: more about your work through your multiple books, through your

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Speaker 1: upcoming film that's great, Renegade, and also through your website,

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Speaker 1: through your YouTube channel, all these things. Can you just

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Speaker 1: tell our listeners where to learn more and where to

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Speaker 1: watch Renegade? Well, David dot dot com is the kind

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Speaker 1: of focal point. There's an enormous library of information and

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Speaker 1: videos that I've done on David dot dot com. Renegade.

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Speaker 1: The details of where to see Renegade are all on

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Speaker 1: David dot dot com. It's it's out very shortly on

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Speaker 1: June the fourth, and I've been very very encouraged UM

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Speaker 1: that people in the premiers have taken friends along who

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Speaker 1: know nothing about my work and they've been really gobsmacked

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Speaker 1: by what they've seen because it's it's a story about

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Speaker 1: my life, yes, but only up to a point. It's

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Speaker 1: really the information that I'm putting out. And I'm very

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Speaker 1: pleased with what the what the film company have done.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've had no input into it apart from

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Speaker 1: you know, they Fly on the Wall filmed me. But

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Speaker 1: I'm very pleased with with what they've done. And I've

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Speaker 1: got another book coming out in UM in September called

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Speaker 1: The Trigger. And if people think, um, I've been controversial

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Speaker 1: up to this point, well strap in because that one

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Speaker 1: trumps some are in many ways. Well, we certainly hope

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Speaker 1: you'll come back to speak with us about that. David. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely love to Yeah. Oh, thank you, and that

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Speaker 1: is our show. Everyone. Thank you so much for listening.

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