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Now it's time to hear from my man, 29 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald money making conversations. Here we go. Welcome to 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: money making Conversation. I am your host, Ra Sean McDonald. 31 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: I tell everybody every week is my mantra to stop 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and start writing your own. 33 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: I also tell people about their passion to leave with 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: their gifts and don't let your age, friends, family, are 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: co workers stop you from planning or living your dreams. 36 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: On my show, interview for consumers as well as business 37 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: owners access and give them mass sex. The celebrities, CEOs, 38 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and what I like to call industry decision makers. 39 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: I asked them advice on giving us secrets to their success. 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: My next guest is Dr Simone Whitmore. She's a board 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: certified O B G y N and star on Bravos, 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: Married to Medicine, returning for his eight season with guests, 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: well some of the co stars or stars or Dr 44 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: Jaqueline of course of miss Dr Whitmore, Dr Heavily, who's 45 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: a danist uh Dr to Tessa who's an occupying in 46 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: occupational medicine, Tarya who's well Tarya and they're married to 47 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: a doctor. And friends of the cast like NSA and 48 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: the Cold Guard Web and Carrie Welles new cast member 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: this season, Anila a song on the pilot first year. 50 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: She's a fashion block up but she's married to doctor. 51 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: Dr Simone Whitmore is on my show to talk about 52 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: COVID eight team as civil unrest. That's an aeron on 53 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: the season that she's experience personally as well, and the 54 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: upcoming season of marriage, which is they d see the 55 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: marriage to medicine and the realities of being a real 56 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: doctor on a reality show. Please working money making conversation 57 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: for the very first time, and I'm happy to have 58 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: her on the show. Dr Simone with more. How are 59 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 1: you doing I'm doing excellent and thank you so much 60 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: for having me. First of all, thank you for coming 61 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: on the show. And uh, you know, the reality shows 62 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: at one time would consider I thought it would be 63 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: a fad. I thought they wouldn't last. And at one 64 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: time there was really out of control. They were physically 65 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: out of control and a lot of a lot of noise, 66 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: a lot of custom, a lot of fussing, a lot 67 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: of drink throwing. And you decided to a being a 68 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: certified doctor into this room. What what drove you or 69 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: what was the motivation behind being a part of marriage 70 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: to medicine. The reason I was willing to film reality 71 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: TV is because I felt that little black girls in 72 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: America needed to see somebody that didn't come from money. 73 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: I came from an alcoholic dad, a single mom, and 74 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: I know how to have a good time and live 75 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: my life without the white coat. And I wanted little 76 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: brown girls in America to see that if I did it, 77 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: she can do it too. Well. You know you are 78 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: doing that. It's in this an eighth season, and it's 79 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: all about branding too and always about what people think 80 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: of you, and that this is not a negative interview. 81 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: These are just basic questions and that I'm just probing 82 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: and just trying to get your story out because I 83 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: think it's a really great story. I've watched and I've 84 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: watched the show offered on over the years, and my 85 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: background is casting and producing, so I'm very familiar with 86 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: your talents and a lot of your cast member. Quard 87 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: where Up has been on my show several times. I'm 88 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: a big fan of hers and so. But when you're 89 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: when you're practicing doctor like you are, you're on the 90 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: reality show, does it and you have a practice, does 91 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: it ever become an issue with the people that you are? 92 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: That you are that are your patients. So most of 93 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: my patients who have been with me for years, they 94 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: know who I am. I may say a little mild 95 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: cuss word in the office trying to be funny, and 96 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 1: my patients understand me. When I came to reality TV, 97 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: I came as my authentic self, no more, no less, 98 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 1: just my authentic self. And what is your authentic self? 99 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm just asking. I love medicine, I love O B 100 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: G Y N. But I also like to have a 101 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: good time, hang out shop, have a cocktail after hour, 102 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: and I love the lab. Well, you know, I think 103 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: you're I think and hear what you're saying. You want 104 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: to break the stereotype, or if there is a stereotype, 105 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: you want to say, this is me, and it's all 106 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: right to be me with no with no um. I 107 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: guess you know. Standards are because some people kind of 108 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: put people on pedestals, And I think that's what you're 109 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: saying that please look at me. I'm Dr Simone with more, 110 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: I am, I am board certified, I am successful, I'm 111 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: happily married. I have a son about to go to college. 112 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: He's living a good life, and I live in a 113 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: beautiful home. Why can't I be me? Why can't I 114 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: be Why can't I dress this way and this fashion 115 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: fashion savvy? Why can't I eat this way? Why can't 116 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: that laugh out lot in public? So in your says, 117 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: you're feeling that there are certain standards that people hold 118 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: doctors to that should be pulled down or accepted, that 119 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: it's all right to be a human being. Not to 120 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: say that any standard that we have or the way 121 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: we see our doctors should be cooled down, but they 122 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: should be humanized. Man, we are human first. And I 123 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: have that doctor before my name. Now I have that 124 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: m D. After my name, but it's not on my 125 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: birth certificate. It does not define who I am. I'm 126 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: a wife, I'm a mother, I'm a sister, I'm a girlfriend. 127 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: And again, life is a out being well rounded. My 128 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: dad always taught me that be well rounded. Well, you 129 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: know the thing I got that impression of you, uh 130 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: and the first episode of the eight season, which I 131 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: did get a chance to see because I want to 132 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: make sure I was caught up to speed, you know, 133 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: where the characters were being developed, and first of the 134 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: first basically the first episode is your episode. Like I said, 135 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: you joked off air and said, you know you start 136 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: why not? And so it ended with you and you 137 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: and you're Jackie. Still got issues, heavenly got issues. You know, 138 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: your son about to go off to college. But I 139 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: thought that was a real tender moment in there, your 140 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: conversation with your son about racism, you know, because that's 141 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: a reality that you know. I have a daughter, she's uh, 142 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, she's in college, and but even having a 143 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: young African American male that has to be even more 144 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: stressful knowing he's going to an environment that may have 145 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: seeds of racism. Talk about that and we're just talking 146 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: about parenting. That's me or not. We're both parents. But 147 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: you had a conversation with your son, how do you 148 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: feel and you know, lights on on and light I 149 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: felt that was a real conversation, was happing with him. 150 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: But that still has to be some hesitation about him 151 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: walking out that door. And because you want him to 152 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: come home. You wanted to when you when you call 153 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: that phone, you wanted to answer. You wanted to be 154 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: there when he's happy. You want to be there when 155 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: he said. But you want to be there when somebody's 156 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: doing it wrong because you didn't put eighteen years of 157 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: your life into him or bring him into this world 158 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 1: for ignorance to step into, you know, shortening his life 159 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: or causing difficulty in his life. We've always taught our 160 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: sons to respect authority, to not run your mouth, not 161 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: to talk back when a police or a teacher or 162 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: any of those is talking to you. But one of 163 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: the most important things we try to teach our sons 164 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: do not have an encounter with the police. So it 165 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: means abiding by the law, not speeding when you're driving 166 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: down the highway. And we had always thought if we 167 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: taught our boys be respectful, follow the rules, that they 168 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: would always come home. And George Floyd that video last 169 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: year showed us that you don't have to be doing 170 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: anything illegal, you don't have to be running, you don't 171 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: have to be talking back, and you could still lose 172 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: your life based on someone else's perception of what they 173 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: think a black man is. And that's you know, being 174 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: a black man. And I think then you and and 175 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: at the end of the premium episode of the eighth season, 176 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: they do the fellows get around talking about, you know, 177 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: being pulled over being a black man in America. The 178 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: reality is that you are raising a young black man 179 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: in America and he's going to school. Tell us about 180 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: the school that he's going to, you know, not in 181 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: the environment, and how what makes you feel comfortable about 182 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: him going because he has to feel comfortable he's going, okay, 183 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: but what also is making you feel uncomfortable about the 184 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: environment that he's going to. So the school is Lee 185 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: University in Cleveland, Tennessee. Cleveland, Tennessee is a small town 186 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: in Tennessee that's near Chattanooga. But I just remember that 187 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: during the pandemic the school was closed. We drove up 188 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: to Cleveland, Tennessee just to drive around the campus to 189 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: see what it was like since he didn't get the 190 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: traditional tour with school open. And I just remember as 191 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: we're driving through this small town of Cleveland seeing all 192 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: of the Confederate flags. So when I saw those, of course, 193 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: I became concerned. Downtown Cleveland has a Confederate monument which 194 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: is walking This is from the school, and it's a 195 00:10:55,480 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: small school, majority white. It's a Christian school. And the 196 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: reason we were willing to take the chance for him 197 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: to go to the university. Number one, you just hope, 198 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: you really hope that people who are claiming to be 199 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: Christians are Christians somehow that God is touching their minds, 200 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: their souls, their bodies to really live a Christian life. 201 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: But you know, there were some other basketball players whom 202 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: he had spoken with over the summer who had not 203 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: had any racial encounters, and we're not having any difficult 204 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: time on campus. Is the reason we decided that it 205 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: would be okay for him to attend thee University. You know, 206 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: the interesting thing about it is that this is part 207 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: of Mary to Medicine. This is a part of the 208 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: lessons of life. Lessons are relatable to it because this 209 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: that that storyline was relatable to me. My daughter was, 210 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, um a tennis phenomen at sixteen, and so 211 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: she was going out there playing that she blew out 212 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: a knee nineteen and now she's in college and very 213 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: happy for her. But the reality is that where can 214 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: you send your sonday he won't experience racism indirectly or 215 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: direct place you feel me. So so you're you're basically 216 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: and you're and your husband basically saying, yes, we're uncomfortable, 217 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: but this is life. You know, we hope we've raised them. 218 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: And I'm not putting any words in your mouth. I'm 219 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: just talking like a parent that hopefully we raised them 220 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: with the values like you told him. You know, if 221 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: it's a third or five drift, thirty or five son, okay, 222 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: you know a voi ignorant for cop pulls you over 223 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: tend to understanding world, say yes, sir, no, sir, tell 224 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: you get out the car, Get out the car. Don't 225 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: be playing loud music unnecessarily. So these are the rules 226 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: that we lived by because of the color of our skin. 227 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: And like you said, all America, all of America, because 228 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: it was involved and it was in the uproar, including 229 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: white people. 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I appreciate that 271 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: Smokey's only said only you can prevent wildfires, but I'm 272 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: filling in because there's a lot more to report, like 273 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: when they're parched or windy conditions out there. You gotta 274 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: be extra careful with things like burning yard waist. After all, 275 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: wildfires can start anywhere, even in your neck of the woods. 276 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: Go to Smokey Bear dot com to learn more about 277 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: wildfire prevention brought to you by the U. S. Forest Service, 278 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: your state Forrester, and the ad Council. We know, isn't 279 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: it when we all immortal? When we that age, you know, 280 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: we get safe and get up. You know, I should 281 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: tell fras you I a should get a flu I 282 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: go play a game of basketball and they say, sweat 283 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: it out of me, and so I trying to sweat 284 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: it out of me now because I'll be laying on 285 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: the court doc. You know. But the beauty of this 286 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: show is that you have friends. You know, one of 287 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: your friends, and this was one of the lead storylines 288 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: of the opening season, was your friendship with Jackie twenty 289 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: three years in and I'm just to let you know 290 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: that in the in the opening episode, Jackie was constantly 291 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: talking about getting back with you, talking about I just 292 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: want to reconcile, and then they showed you constantly, never 293 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: saying that they com Well, you know, I don't know 294 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: what it is what it is, and you know, and 295 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: as a producer and an editor, I know they could 296 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: play characters to develop storylines. And so this is a 297 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: person you've known be twenty three years. She's an original 298 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: member of the show along with yourself. Where do you 299 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: go when you see these storylines being developed? And we're 300 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: gonna get to Heavenly in a minute. But I want 301 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: to talk about the friendship of Jackie and Simone m 302 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: So I again, I come to reality TV as my 303 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: authentic self. I'm not going to fake a friendship. I 304 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: am going to pretend to make up unless my heart 305 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: is really in it. And Jackie and I have known 306 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: each other a very long time, and of all the 307 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: cast on this show, she knows me the best. I 308 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: know her the best, and I did not want to 309 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: make up for TV's sake. I just wasn't interested either. 310 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: We were gonna have a genuine sit down conversation or not. 311 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: But I didn't want to make up just for TV's sake. 312 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: I'm just asking now. I don't know that, I'm just asking, 313 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: So what is makeup for TV sake versus having a 314 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: genuine sit down? Would it be on camera or would 315 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: it be off camera between you and jack Um? It 316 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: could be either one quite frankly, because again, I'm going 317 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: to express my real thoughts and opinions. And it doesn't 318 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 1: matter whether a camera is rolling or not. When you 319 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: say true to who you are, it doesn't matter whether 320 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: a camera's present or not. Well, you're showing that. Now, 321 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: you've shown that. Now heavenly? How is heavenly? She was 322 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: a dentist, you know, y'all y'all joke about that a 323 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: lot throughout the seasons, though we just said Dr Danis. 324 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: Even Anila came in cracking jokes, gonna crack jokes. She's 325 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: a blogger, okay, gonna crack jokes on the dentist. Um, 326 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: So how does she get in between the two of you? Guys? 327 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: Did I miss that episode of some Well? So, in 328 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: actual in actuality, I don't think that Heavenly came between 329 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: me and Jackie. And that is how I felt last year, 330 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: but in the pandemic, I spent more time at home. 331 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 1: I was able to think about things and get my 332 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: feelings in check. If you will, and basically I mean, 333 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: Heaviley and I have gone back and forth, back and forth, 334 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: getting along not getting along over the year since she 335 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: started the show on season two. As a matter of fact, 336 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: she hated me and Jackie when she started, we hated her. 337 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: The feeling was mutual, but over the years we had 338 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: all grown to become close friends. But Heaviley and I 339 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: would get into it one time for a couple of 340 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: months on in our camera, and Jackie always gave me 341 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: her thoughts and opinions. She would tell me, I think 342 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: you shouldn't even be taking this stuff heavily saying too serious. 343 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: You shouldn't be doing this, or you should be doing that, 344 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: And she always talked to both of us. This time, 345 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: my friend of twenty three years decided she didn't have 346 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: any words on it because I guess she didn't want 347 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: to hurt my feelings. But she knows me. She had 348 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: never been her tongue before. And you know that expression, 349 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: cat got your tongue. I'll just leave you with the cash. Well, 350 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: you know what, y'all didn't have a sit down. When 351 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: she said that she was gonna be it was on 352 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: camera that she didn't want to make a decision, she 353 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: want to make it, and then you took that very 354 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: personal and so I see, now you know Dr Heavinly, 355 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: who is a dentist by the way, is uh is 356 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: reveling in this breakup. I think she's reveling and driving 357 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: a wedge between the relationship and personally, and I pertually, 358 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: I don't think Jackie sees that. Am I correcting assuming 359 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: that I think Jackie is not eve or she's or 360 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: she has developed a wall of stubbornness to say that 361 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: she's not gonna be bothered. So I don't think. I 362 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: definitely think Jackie is aware of what Heavenly is doing. 363 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: But Heavenly is also Jackie's bulldog, right, and so maybe 364 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: that is just a strategy that you would rather have 365 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: this bulldog who defends you. Even on of days you're wrong, 366 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: She's still defending you. Adoption of teams from foster care 367 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: is a topic not enough people know about, and we're 368 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: here to change that. 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What else grows 377 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: in the forest, our imagination, our sense of wonder and 378 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: our family bonds grow too, because when we disconnect from 379 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: this and connect with this, we reconnect with each other. 380 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: The forest is closer than you think. Find a forest 381 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: near you and start exploring. I Discover the Forest dot org, 382 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: brought to you by the United States Fourth Service and 383 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: the ad Council. And we're live here outside the Perez 384 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: family home, just waiting for the And there they go, 385 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: almost on time. This morning. Mom is coming out the 386 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: front door, strong with a double arm kid carry. Looks 387 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: like dad has the bags. Daughter is bringing up the rear. 388 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: Oh but the diaper bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys 389 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: are everywhere. Oh but mom has just nailed the perfect 390 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: car seat buckle for the toddler. And now the eldest daughter, 391 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: who looks to be about nine or ten, has secured 392 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: herself in the booster seat. Dad SIPs the bag clothes 393 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: and they're off. Ah, but looks like Mom doesn't realize 394 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: her coffee cup is still on the roof of the 395 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: car and there it goes. Oh, that's a shame. That 396 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: mug was a fan favorite. Don't sweat the small stuff, 397 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: just nailed the big stuff, like making sure your kids 398 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: are buckled correctly in the right seat for their agent's eyes. 399 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: Learn more n h T s A dot gov slash 400 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: the Right Seat visits n h s A dot gov 401 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: sash the Right Seat Brought to you by Metza and 402 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: the ad Council. What's an interesting thing about my show 403 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: is called money Making Conversation. You are an entrepreneur, a 404 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: small business owner. Let's talk about that whole process of 405 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: dealing with because people want to hear the Boy show 406 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: about advice. What would you give and old starting to practice? 407 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: How would you hire people? I always tell people you 408 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: gotta have a great r HR person when you you 409 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: gotta have a great accountant. That's my early notes to 410 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: anybody's starting to start, especially accountant, don't be sitting over 411 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: there talking to trying to do books by yourself and 412 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: you've never done books before. So as a as a 413 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur who start up because you represent you know, 414 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: the fastest growing population and entrepreneurship or African American females. 415 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: And you are an African American female, you are star, 416 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: you are brand. Talk about being a small business owner 417 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: just when you started, but also now doing COVID nineteen. 418 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: What I would talk, what I would recommend for anybody 419 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: who is starting a business, doing as much research as 420 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: you possibly can before you start your business. Know the 421 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: industry you're going into. Know some of the pitfalls of 422 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: the industry you're going into. And for me, I was 423 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 1: already practicing medicine before I opened up a business. You 424 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: can't even imagine how hard it's going to be until 425 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: you actually open those doors. But I do agree with 426 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: you that you have to have an accountant who gives 427 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: you advice regularly. And what I like to say is 428 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: count all your pennies, look for your pennies, figure out 429 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: ways when you're buying supplies that you could save money 430 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: because you may be only buying from this supplier, but 431 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: then somebody over here has a cheaper learned how to 432 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: build relationships so that when you need help you can 433 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: get help. You need a banking relationship, that relationship with 434 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: an account mountain. You need relationships with people in the 435 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: industry who are doing the exact same thing you're doing, 436 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: just to get advice on the pitfalls when they actually happened, 437 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: how to get out of those pitfalls, and just know 438 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: that no matter what happens, you can always depend on 439 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: yourself in business for yourself. There you go. Now when 440 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: one going closing question is about you didn't plan on. 441 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: Of course we talked about budget. You said always count 442 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: your penis no where every penny is. We did not think, 443 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: and I'm saying, I'm a business owner. I did not 444 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: see masking my budget. I didn't see hand sanitizing my budget. 445 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: I didn't see working from home and my budget and 446 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: telling medicine. I'm sure we're picked up strongly in your business, 447 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: but like you said, you're dealing with with you know 448 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: O B. G. Ryan profession, So tell the medicine almost 449 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: like what is that? So? How did that affect your 450 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: business model and also your employees? How did you work 451 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: through that, Like I was able to do teleconference because 452 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: I'm just dealing with graphics and I'm a production company, 453 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: But you're in medicine. How did you deal with that 454 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: and how did your patients deal with that? So definitely 455 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: finding PPE to purchase and purchasing PPE was an additional expense. 456 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: But what I tell any anybody who's in business for themselves, 457 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: always save for a rainy day, because if you have savings, 458 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: when you run into these additional expenses, it just shouldn't 459 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: be that big of a deal. So you either have 460 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: the savings or you have a credit line with the 461 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: bank available to help you in a in a financial needs. 462 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: But with staff, I tried to stay calm and try 463 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: to reassure them. For me, with pregnant patients, I was 464 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: not able to do all of the visits using telemedicine. 465 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: Surely we did some, but not all. And what I 466 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: did was we continue in YouTube, come to the office, 467 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: We shortened the office hours, and I continue to make 468 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: payroll for the full forty hours a week. But again, 469 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: just looking for resources out there, there were a ton 470 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: of resources available to small businesses. I applied for the 471 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: P P P loan my big bank didn't give it 472 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: to me. So I went to my small bank. And 473 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: again I have two banks. I have the big bank, 474 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: I have the small bank. Nobody told me to do 475 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: it that way. That is just one of those life 476 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: lessons that I learned early on in practice. And I've 477 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: been in solo practice since two thousand four, So you 478 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: learn things, and there are always gonna be hiccups and 479 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: speed bumps. You just have to learn something from every 480 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: speed bump in the road. Well, you know, I gotta 481 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: close on that. Said was my last question, But I 482 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: had to bring this up because my wife is important 483 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: in my life. You know, when those speed bumps. As 484 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: you're talking about those speed bumps, you gotta turn to 485 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: somebody for some truth and sometimes for some advice. Sometimes 486 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 1: that truth is not what you want to hear, but 487 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: it also comes with good advice because you know that 488 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: person is gonna be honest with you. So I'm leaving 489 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: our question to your husband, who plays an amazing support 490 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: the role. I'm gonna just tell you, doctor, I'm I'm 491 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: a fan of yours. I've always been a fan of yours. 492 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: And when you had that conversation with your son when 493 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: he was shooting the basketball. I was over the roof 494 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: with you because that was pure. That was pure honestly 495 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: to me, you know, because it was relatable to me, 496 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: and uh and it and it and it, and it 497 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: was a seed that bore out of your husband being there. 498 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: Because African American young men need that male, that male. 499 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: Look how to treat women? Look how what you do 500 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: in all these different situations. To talk about your strong 501 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 1: support group. You know my man, talk about him right 502 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: quick before we close it out. So Cecone and I 503 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: have been married for twenty five years and he has 504 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: definitely been a great sounding board when I asked him 505 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: about business advice, and he loves to do research. But 506 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: as any marriage goals, we have certainly had our struggles. 507 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: Our marriage actually came to the brink of the brink 508 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: of a divorce, which I shared on reality TV, and 509 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: I was so thankful for this reality TV family who 510 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: helped us to realize that we were being stubborn. We 511 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: had stopped listening to one another, and we were able 512 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: not only to reconcile, but to make some differences in 513 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: our marriage so that we could keep on going in 514 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: and not just keep going, but keep going strong with 515 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: my friend. 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