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Speaker 1: Welcome into another episode of the Two Minute Drill podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Nerd Wallet, Play Smart Finance Harder. I'm JJ Sacob.

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Speaker 1: It's joined once again by Colts dot Com writer Amanda Foster.

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Speaker 1: We're looking ahead to Colts and Titans the Winter Whiteout

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Speaker 1: game on Sunday at Lucas Oil Stadium. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: start with some injury updates here, Amanda. The Colts will

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Speaker 1: be without Alec Pierce and e J. Speed on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Alec. Yeah. I think the Colts offense

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Speaker 1: they struggled when Pierce left the game against Denver as

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Speaker 1: he kind of removed the downfield threat of him. He

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Speaker 1: got he was he entered the concussion protocol. He it

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Speaker 1: was like last one of the last plays of the

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Speaker 1: first half. He got hurt. On what does this do

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Speaker 1: for the Colts wide receiver depth this week? It does

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Speaker 1: look like Ashton Doolan might be back. That is, sorry

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Speaker 1: to steal your thunder, I know you did. You took

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Speaker 1: the words right out of my mouth. That's okay. Where

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Speaker 1: do the Colts kinda go from here? A wide receiver

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Speaker 1: on there? Yeah, day it is I.

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Speaker 2: Think a good sign that the possibility of Ashtondolin coming back,

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Speaker 2: because we unfortunately kind of saw what a lack of

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Speaker 2: Alec Pierce did for the Colts in the second half

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Speaker 2: of that game against the Broncos. Granted, many other things

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Speaker 2: happened in that game and that half that might have

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Speaker 2: happened even if Alec was out there, so you can't

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Speaker 2: obviously put a lot of that, but you saw, like

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Speaker 2: kind of like you said, just how much of the

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Speaker 2: Colts offense was, how many of their options downfield were

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Speaker 2: taken away because you don't have that reliable presence to

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Speaker 2: at least draw defenders down there, because that was a

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Speaker 2: thing that even if he's not being targeted all the

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Speaker 2: time and making catches, yeah he's down there and people

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Speaker 2: are thinking about him.

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Speaker 1: Being you have to account for it, right.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that there's a chance for Doolan to

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Speaker 2: come back, we've seen him also be a little bit

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Speaker 2: more of a deep threat, especially earlier in the season

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Speaker 2: when he was kind of getting maybe some more reps

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Speaker 2: on the offense. So that adds a little bit, but

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Speaker 2: it is I think we're going to see a very

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Speaker 2: a different offense obviously without Alec because he can also

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Speaker 2: with Anthony's arm there's that chance that he can obviously

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Speaker 2: make those threats right and then you kind of just

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Speaker 2: take that away. So it's gonna be a big adjustment.

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Speaker 2: Probably look to see more from Adie Mitchell again, you will.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're You're probably gonna see more of that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it's and at this point in the season, I

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Speaker 2: feel like there's a lot that we maybe are not

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Speaker 2: totally sure of how they're going to approach the game

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Speaker 2: ryn game versus past game, everything like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's gonna be I think you're right

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Speaker 1: about Adi Mitchell where you're going to see him get

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Speaker 1: more of an opportunity. He's he look, I mean he's

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Speaker 1: he gets open, he does, he does, but can he

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Speaker 1: get open within the structure of the play. Can he

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Speaker 1: get open on time? Those have been things that you know,

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Speaker 1: he's talked about, the Colts have talked about. I thought

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Speaker 1: this week Jim Bob Cooter gave a pretty pretty strong

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Speaker 1: defense of Adie Mitchell when he was asked about him,

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Speaker 1: you know, just kind of emphasizing he's a young player

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Speaker 1: who we really like, who we think is still going

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Speaker 1: to be a really good player in this league. So

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Speaker 1: more opportunities for him in the big picture, maybe not

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Speaker 1: a bad thing. And the more narrow picture, though, you'd

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Speaker 1: love to have Alec Pierce out there. Hopefully he's back

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Speaker 1: for Week seventeen. All Right, EJ. Speed, he's out with

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Speaker 1: a knee injury, so you're looking at probably Grant Steward

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Speaker 1: at linebacker. But also don't discount this one. Jalen Carlis

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Speaker 1: looks like he's gonna come back from injured reserve this week.

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Speaker 1: He had a fibula and shoulder injury back against the

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins in Week seven. He has not played since

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Speaker 1: he's been on IR and that's that's a spot right

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Speaker 1: there where you could see another young player slide in

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Speaker 1: you're kind of evaluating, Okay, what does this thing look

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Speaker 1: like going forward? Because EJ. Speed is a free agent

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Speaker 1: after this year, so are you starting to think about,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's get Carlis some reps in there. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know, could be an interesting opportunity for Jalen Carlive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not a bad thing. And also can't discount Grant

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Speaker 2: Steward because we've seen what he can do as.

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Speaker 1: Well, feisty run defenders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah, obviously you wish that EJ is

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Speaker 1: For one other guy here, Ryan Kelly, looks like he's

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Speaker 1: going to be back. That's it's kind of been pointing

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Speaker 1: that direction all week a matter. You wrote a story

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Speaker 1: on Thursday where, you know, in a Ryan Kelly expressed like,

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Speaker 1: Shane Stikeen on Friday even told us, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: probably good to go. Yeah, So that that's encouraging there.

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Speaker 1: I think the Colts have missed him at center, just

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Speaker 1: that veteran presence. You know. He's a guy who I

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Speaker 1: So good to get him back for a couple more

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Speaker 1: games this year, you know, and against the Titans team

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Speaker 1: that they've struggled this year, but their defense does do

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Speaker 1: some good things and they've got a really good interior

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Speaker 1: led by Jeffrey Simmons. So anytime you get a veteran

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Speaker 1: like Ryan Kelly Back, four teen Pro bowler. You feel

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Speaker 2: It, right, And this offensive line has shuffled around so

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Speaker 2: much this season, which is hard for everybody to work with.

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Speaker 2: And so when you have somebody, like you said, with

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Speaker 2: that experience, who can just know a little bit more

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Speaker 2: And Yeah, he said earlier this week that he tried

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Speaker 2: to get back for last week and talked to the

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Speaker 2: trainers and it didn't necessarily work out in time. But

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Speaker 2: so you feel, I think even better that now he

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Speaker 2: really is confident in his ability to go and in

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Speaker 2: his health for the last three games.

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Speaker 1: He's got the full checklist, yeah, you know, checked off

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Speaker 1: and he's ready to go. All right, let's finish this

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Speaker 1: quick little podcast here, just talking about like what we've

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Speaker 1: cults of a nine percent chance to make the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: like how much does this really impact things against the Titans?

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Speaker 1: But hearing from guys in the locker room, I think

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Speaker 1: I heard a lot of the right mentality from players

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Speaker 1: from coaches that just being able to finish over five

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Speaker 1: is kind of a pride factor that goes into that,

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Speaker 1: on a losing team, right, So while finishing over five

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, they need a lot of help. I think

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Speaker 1: that guys have kind of reset after Denver. They flushed

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Speaker 1: as a winning team. And while to fans, I get it,

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Speaker 1: that may not matter too much to fans, I think

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Speaker 1: to the guys in that locker room, it does matter

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Speaker 1: and it is a motivating factor over these final couple games.

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Speaker 2: Well. And that's the thing too, is that I think

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Speaker 2: people wonder assume, whatever it may be, that it would

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Speaker 2: a fan perspective to think that maybe you would stay

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Speaker 2: a little bit hung up on it just because of

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Speaker 2: how everything played out. But you know, the guys come

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Speaker 2: and then they start the practice cadence and everything for

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Speaker 2: next week. And that was something that Ryan Kelly talked about,

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Speaker 2: is that, you know, you kind of just keep going

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Speaker 2: from my perspective and from what we've heard, is there

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Speaker 2: there's no reason to think that they haven't, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, you learn from the Broncos game. But they're fully.

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Speaker 2: Focused on Tennessee and on winning these next three games

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Speaker 2: and finishing over five hundred, like you said.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the only thing they can control is just

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Speaker 1: finishing the season with a couple of wins. You know.

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Speaker 1: We've also heard from Shane Stikeen that he does think

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of growth opportunity here for Anthony Richardson. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to finish the season strong going into twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: And look, I mean here's the scenario. Let me just

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Speaker 1: lay it out for the playoff scenario. Oh boy, Like

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Speaker 1: I so, I've been so consumed by all these that

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Speaker 1: I can't like totally turn it off yet, which is fair.

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Speaker 1: Until the percentage is at zero, Yeah, then I'll turn

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Speaker 1: it off. So here's what has to happen for the

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Speaker 1: Colts to make the playoffs. They have to win their

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Speaker 1: do that part of this whole thing. Then there are

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Speaker 1: actually three scenarios. I need to actually go update the

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Speaker 1: article I wrote because there there isn't an additional scenio

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Speaker 1: many things for me to keep track of. Good luck,

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Speaker 1: here we go, ok need scenario. Here's scenario number one.

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Speaker 1: The Colts went out and the Chargers lose their final

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Speaker 1: two games. Yes, who did play? They are at the

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots, who are three and eleven, and then

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Speaker 1: and twelve. That's what I thought. That'd be a pretty

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Speaker 1: epic collapse for a Chargers team that under Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: Looks like based on what they did Thursday night, where

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Speaker 1: I thought they were going to lose that game, I

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Speaker 1: don't see them collapsing like that. So now I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at okay, maybe almost the more likely scenario is the

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Speaker 1: one that requires a lot more things to happen. Great,

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Speaker 1: that's the spirit. Then, Okay, So Actually, before I get

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Speaker 1: to this other scenario, I also want to throw out

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Speaker 1: there that if the Baltimore Ravens lose their final three

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Speaker 1: games again, Baltimore is a very good team. This would

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Speaker 1: be a shock. Now, Baltimore does not need football, They

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Speaker 1: do not have an easy schedule. They hurst the Steelers

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Speaker 1: and then they they host the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but so Saturday to Christmas Day is the short

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Speaker 2: so short week could be little heat on Baltimore going

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Speaker 2: into Week eighteen.

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Speaker 1: If they lose their next two games and the Colts

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Speaker 1: win their next two games, again, I think Baltimore is

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Speaker 1: a great football team. Lamar Jackson is playing like the

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Speaker 1: second best quarterback in the league. I would be stunned. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if the Colts made the playoffs over the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about it. I think literally everybody would

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Speaker 1: be Let's talk about the scenario that I think is

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Speaker 1: the most likely to happen, even if it's the very

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Speaker 1: ok Okay, so stick with me here. I like that

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Speaker 1: you're just like you're the sounding board of like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, right, just all of the reaction noises which

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Speaker 1: is probably what our listeners are doing, right. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Colts went out the Denver Broncos lose their final two games,

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Speaker 1: they go to the Cincinnati Bengals, who's still have a shot,

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Speaker 1: and then they host the Kansas City Chiefs. So if

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Speaker 1: you're looking for rooting interest this weekend, you want the

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Speaker 1: After Welcome We're deep in it. We are deep focused.

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Speaker 1: say is, Amanda, this game does mean something to the cults.

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Speaker 2: Well, none of them take it for granted, the fact

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Speaker 2: And in order to do that, you're gonna play your best.

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Speaker 1: there will be a quiz next week. No, there won't be.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a notepad off to the side with

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Speaker 1: No cheating. You can't no cards? Is that a thing? Now?

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Speaker 2: Like I I couldn't tell you, okay? Not in college?

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Speaker 2: Not for me.

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Speaker 1: In college you had to keep all this useless information

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Speaker 2: The uh periodic table that I memorized, the periodic I.

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Speaker 1: Know, how many elements do you think you could name

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Speaker 1: presented by by nerd Wallet. We will talk to you

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Speaker 1: next week before the Colds play The New York Giants.

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Speaker 1: So Long,