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Speaker 2: Over in Atlanta and Megachurch pastors mad at a group
Speaker 2: of black.
Speaker 3: Trump supporters who went to the White House.
Speaker 4: If you were warning, what you're about to hear is
Speaker 4: extra racist.
Speaker 2: I ain't afraid of the spoots that said at the DOA,
Speaker 2: these runaway slaves hiding in the White House.
Speaker 5: I feel bad for them.
Speaker 2: It's in the White House who are in that tap
Speaker 2: dancing for Massa when bowtie and grinding, laughing like nothing,
Speaker 2: that's funny. Get out of the drove and stand with
Speaker 2: your people so that you understand that God is on
Speaker 2: our side.
Speaker 5: All right, brother, that God is.
Speaker 3: God is now here's my bee?
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 6: So what Jesse Waters did was remarkably disingenuous. I brought
Speaker 6: this ups the tip because she's the one. She is
Speaker 6: our in house holding all corporate media conglomerates accountable. And
Speaker 6: this is one of those examples where they're like, remarkably
Speaker 6: just dishonest. So he cuts to Jamal's sound and you
Speaker 6: can see in the background of Jamal this clip of
Speaker 6: folks at the White house that will run.
Speaker 3: Let's row that.
Speaker 2: Here at the Black History Lunch celebration at the White House.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, and hey, hey hey.
Speaker 4: Everybody here, cash because has been conclared.
Speaker 5: That's a happy out of record role. Oh then motherfucker's accountable.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right, Jamal, Yeah, that's right. And so that's
Speaker 3: what really happened. So they're black folks are in there saying.
Speaker 1: You're holding sign all right, So roland Mark they also
Speaker 1: had signs and roland.
Speaker 3: So the only one I saw they had us you
Speaker 3: know those big print out.
Speaker 6: And it said cash Betel like it just said on
Speaker 6: the clip, cashtail can wrestle your nomination. Heads are about
Speaker 6: to roll and pull up Jamal's head. So what Jesse
Speaker 6: Waters didn't do was properly contextualize what Jamal was responding.
Speaker 6: He can't just say right, He didn't just say, oh,
Speaker 6: y'all nigroes who went to the White House, I'm mad
Speaker 6: at you, so let me step all over you in
Speaker 6: my sermon. This is after death threats. This is after
Speaker 6: police have to be called. This is after the FBI,
Speaker 6: who ain't going to open have to be called. This
Speaker 6: is after his livelihood is threatened and let's and let's
Speaker 6: be clear about the fact Jamal is newly married, so
Speaker 6: he has a role of not only protecting a flock,
Speaker 6: but also his household.
Speaker 3: So you have put this man in a position where
Speaker 3: he's got to fight back and just in self defense.
Speaker 3: He didn't play none of that.
Speaker 6: And I think what makes this worse and it adds
Speaker 6: insult to injury, is that these people look like us.
Speaker 6: And this is why we say all skin folks. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what when I hear about this, what I
Speaker 1: when I think of when I hear about this, Because honestly, that's,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of lightweight for Fox News. That I mean,
Speaker 1: they constantly spit out a bunch of hateful lies and rhetoric.
Speaker 4: They're not a real news outlet, you know, it's a
Speaker 4: propaganda network.
Speaker 1: So that's not the worst thing I've heard on Fox
Speaker 1: by far, That's not the worst thing I heard on
Speaker 1: Fox News. I think what it raises for me is
Speaker 1: this issue of violence. Yes, and I think the message
Speaker 1: that people in America are getting is that you can
Speaker 1: break any law, you can do anything you like, as
Speaker 1: long as it is in fealty to Donald Trump, you
Speaker 1: will likely be able to get away with it. That's
Speaker 1: concerning for me. One, I have a brother who's a
Speaker 1: truck driver, who is constantly on these roads alongside Maga
Speaker 1: loving truck drivers.
Speaker 3: For you guys out you know you have kids.
Speaker 1: For my friends with with adult children out there, I mean,
Speaker 1: we've seen the violence that happens with us on Obama's watch.
Speaker 1: You know, when when laws have been changed, they've murdered
Speaker 1: our children. You know, body cams have done nothing. They
Speaker 1: just gave us a better view of them murdering our
Speaker 1: men and women and and and babies. So I think
Speaker 1: we have to brace ourselves for what's coming.
Speaker 4: You know, I got it.
Speaker 1: I had this thought when we were on the main show.
Speaker 1: I got an idea for a mini pod. I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. Those we might need an expert,
Speaker 1: but I'm real legit thinking our entire is all of
Speaker 1: these shit cauld this fall. So what do we do
Speaker 1: if we're knocked off the grid?
Speaker 6: You know, if there's some terrorists that went out yesterday
Speaker 6: and I had a panic attack because I thought the grid.
Speaker 4: I thought, this is my point.
Speaker 1: So when we're not it's not just your power, it's
Speaker 1: your phone. So we can't text and say Angela, Are
Speaker 1: you okay?
Speaker 3: Andrew?
Speaker 4: Where are you?
Speaker 3: What is the plan?
Speaker 4: Where do you go? If your kids are at school?
Speaker 4: How do you get them?
Speaker 1: Roads are crazy. I've been in DC when there's been
Speaker 1: a terrorist attack and there's been an earthquake. You can't
Speaker 1: drive anywhere like you're on foot. So I think a
Speaker 1: doomsday MINIFI because I feel like we're ed. Yes, what
Speaker 1: is our doomsday plan? Should terrorism find its way here?
Speaker 3: That's going to be her solo pie because I can't
Speaker 3: have my nerves bad.
Speaker 1: But it's not necessarily me because I don't know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, Like maybe that's someplace we can have
Speaker 1: an expert or you know something. But I'd be curious
Speaker 1: your plans, you know, something to think about, like how
Speaker 1: would you get to your parents?
Speaker 4: Where would you go? Like where should we go? I
Speaker 4: don't want to just be talking randomly.
Speaker 5: I want to What I really want to know is
Speaker 5: what are you watching now on TV? Because it sounds
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 3: That I just finished lying there wasn't it good?
Speaker 4: It was good?
Speaker 3: I did not get the read.
Speaker 6: And by the way, you haven't talked about Jami yet,
Speaker 6: but real quick, I didn't get to read that.
Speaker 3: It was as conservatively as oh, very I don't it
Speaker 3: didn't feel that way to oh almost everything they said.
Speaker 1: When when there's a scene where Nicole Kimman's character comes
Speaker 1: in and she's like she was late to a meeting
Speaker 1: and she was like, you can leave an eight ball
Speaker 1: in the west wing, but God forbid you forget your
Speaker 1: driver's license. That was ridiculous. The whole plot line of
Speaker 1: the border that like terrorists, huh because there was a
Speaker 1: eight but literally eight ball of coke found in the
Speaker 1: West Wing like two years ago through administration, I didn't
Speaker 1: even get that. And the entire storyline that terrorists are
Speaker 1: coming through the southern border and their constant reference like
Speaker 1: all this administration doesn't even know there is a southern border.
Speaker 4: You know there is not fair.
Speaker 5: It was a strong defense of the military state than
Speaker 5: it was of a political ideology, the international defense propaganda.
Speaker 5: I mean the writer of it is a is a
Speaker 5: veteran who.
Speaker 3: I was like the mill I was like industrial complex.
Speaker 6: Yes, Like I was like if the if contractors ever
Speaker 6: needed something to justify their exist this.
Speaker 5: You don't know who the producers of the show are.
Speaker 4: They're extremely I mean, I don't need.
Speaker 5: But my guess is is that I don't have to
Speaker 5: guess very hard, which is all the time these folks
Speaker 5: put these kinds of industries.
Speaker 1: Put these He says, he's not conservative, you know, he's
Speaker 1: like the fact that people say, I don't.
Speaker 5: Think he's a conservative. I think the military company.
Speaker 6: I think it's military too. I definitely got that, Jamal,
Speaker 6: you want, I mean, you're not, But do you want
Speaker 6: to talk?
Speaker 5: I mean, just just just simply. First of all, the
Speaker 5: brother and his wife are constantly covered uh in prayers,
Speaker 5: and we add ours to it because this kind of
Speaker 5: derelict behavior invite the kind of violence that they can't control.
Speaker 5: The the provocateur rarely ever bears responsibility in real life.
Speaker 5: Yet where do you think these ideas get seated when
Speaker 5: you spout them. You're not You're not throwing those words
Speaker 5: out there for no meaning. You mean for someone to
Speaker 5: do it. You don't want to be the one to
Speaker 5: have it, to have it on your hands, but it
Speaker 5: is on your hands when you provoke in this way.
Speaker 5: I also have to say, very honestly, I would not
Speaker 5: take issue with Pastor Brian if his intention was to
Speaker 5: derive black folks who thought in this day and age,
Speaker 5: given the unparalleled attack that our communities collectively are under.
Speaker 5: Why you think it's okay to right now scan grand
Speaker 5: and tap dance to the music.
Speaker 3: I would not have been mad with him people who
Speaker 3: thought that about those of us.
Speaker 6: I don't think any of us went to Christmas receptions
Speaker 6: and holiday parties when Gaza Yes, right, So like I
Speaker 6: think that we've got to be careful with that.
Speaker 5: Well, I think if you are constantly advocating and protesting
Speaker 5: around an issue, and again you are telling people that
Speaker 5: this is the doomsday scenario for us, we're coming to extinction,
Speaker 5: then you ought to comport yourself to that reality.
Speaker 3: Well, they think that this is good, like the ones
Speaker 3: who were in there think this was good.
Speaker 5: But I think, of course they think it's good. The
Speaker 5: reason why they think it's good is we all know
Speaker 5: the saying on the other side of the line is
Speaker 5: shorter for us. It is not only isn't shorter, one
Speaker 5: of the reason why it's shorter is the consequence of
Speaker 5: it is you then end up with incompetent know nothings
Speaker 5: who may be blustering at best, but quite frankly, when
Speaker 5: it comes to real competition with us, they couldn't tell
Speaker 5: you they don't compete with it.
Speaker 6: You know what's so funny they didn't end up with them,
Speaker 6: because all they ended up with was an invitation to
Speaker 6: the White House's Black History Month reception. Because none of
Speaker 6: them in the White House, none of them in the case,
Speaker 6: one in the cabinet and one in the White House Office,
Speaker 6: white House counsel, and.
Speaker 5: One just got a nod or an endorsement a year
Speaker 5: or so out from the race for governor in the
Speaker 5: state of.
Speaker 3: Florida in Trump's administration talking.
Speaker 5: Don't you agree that the congressmen from Florida we would
Speaker 5: have thought would have been appointed to of course, so
Speaker 5: again the price you have to lose your soul quite literally.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to find yourself quite literally. You drop some bars
Speaker 4: and I pick up on them.
Speaker 5: I appreciate because you know you'd be doing it. I
Speaker 5: understanding this is that these folks know what the possibilities are. Right,
Speaker 5: if you had a perfect if you had it perfectly
Speaker 5: away the fact that you know that you can have better,
Speaker 5: Yet you are content with the crumbs. Not just content,
Speaker 5: you are you're buoyant, You're you're jocular, and you're eating
Speaker 5: the crumbs and it's okay with you. So that's all
Speaker 5: the self defacing and self hating, and they don't have
Speaker 5: the quality character capability to truly compete. The lines too
Speaker 5: long over here, and and the.
Speaker 6: Thing is they also don't even have the influence for
Speaker 6: us to pay any attention to them. Like to me,
Speaker 6: I feel like I've been saying this mantra all week
Speaker 6: of like focus on the real fight, don't get distressed.
Speaker 4: The main thing, the main thing, that's that's what you've
Speaker 4: been saying.
Speaker 6: Oh so you no, I agree, but like I just
Speaker 6: want to And also that's just like a black idiot,
Speaker 6: that's the main thing. It's circular, but we all understand it.
Speaker 6: To me, I'm like, even even when I don't, I
Speaker 6: don't want to fight amongst us like the friendly fire,
Speaker 6: they're not as friendly fire, but they're also not worth
Speaker 6: the time, energy, strategy, expect. Like we have to be
Speaker 6: so like precisely focused in this moment. We can't be
Speaker 6: thinking about them like they like the And then side note,
Speaker 6: who the hell let them bring that big print out
Speaker 6: of Jamal's head in a way like that would never
Speaker 6: have administration.
Speaker 4: There were multiple black people that they had on these
Speaker 4: little funeral.
Speaker 3: If you they were huge the big thing actually did.
Speaker 5: Consider consider all that Donald Trump such a hexcept and
Speaker 5: all these other people have to say about de I
Speaker 5: and people of color the whole. The point that I
Speaker 5: want to make about it is is that if your
Speaker 5: exposure to us is there is visa VI them. Yes, yes,
Speaker 5: you might have walked away with the conclusion that you
Speaker 5: didn't earn where you are. You're just in this room
Speaker 5: because we you know, happen to be here shucking and jiving.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing.
Speaker 6: The reason why they're in the room with folks who
Speaker 6: didn't earn it is because they didn't earn us the
Speaker 6: bottom of the barrel. And that's again, like I'm trying
Speaker 6: not to do no harm to black people, even when
Speaker 6: they just skin folks.
Speaker 3: We don't even have time to deal with them.
Speaker 6: They're gonna have to face God one day on why
Speaker 6: they were on the opposite side of Big Mama.
Speaker 3: I won't.
Speaker 5: I won't deal with them except to the extent that
Speaker 5: you stand in the way.
Speaker 3: I agree with.
Speaker 5: You blocked the blessings of our people, so now you
Speaker 5: fair game. But generally, I mean, we didn't want to
Speaker 5: talk about that other than the nincome poop.
Speaker 3: The other week on the Mini puplic.
Speaker 1: I know it is what it is.
Speaker 5: There is a saying in politics and in leadership and
Speaker 5: use where and I know we all know it, which
Speaker 5: is you don't punch down ever, right, never punch down?
Speaker 5: So hello, taking those folks in the into our consideration,
Speaker 5: even the folks at the White House. To me, it
Speaker 5: is a punch down. I'm punching down. However, can I
Speaker 5: just I'm punching down in my full awareness that I'm
Speaker 5: punching down.
Speaker 3: Oh we are, we are way on time.
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