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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show team. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt Tuesday, December sixth edition of the program. We

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Speaker 1: Will discuss why this really matters to the country and

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Speaker 1: three creative versus elenis. I think that's how you say it.

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Speaker 1: There's a case that was argued at the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: anything like that allowable as a function of law when

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Speaker 1: religious freedom entirely. That's what's happening now. It plays out,

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Speaker 1: that goal by the left plays out in cases like

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Speaker 1: the oral arguments. So that then means that the Mormon Church,

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Speaker 1: the First Amendment and speech rights, specifically compelled speech doctrine

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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if you're a private institution, doesn't matter if

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Speaker 1: going to be illegal. They if they prevail now, I

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Speaker 1: there is still this speech carve out for religious faith,

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Speaker 1: any protection for religions and religious people to You're not

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Speaker 1: Right now, there's still, I think is some desire to

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