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Speaker 1: Where the car doctor, all the auto parts stores, all

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Nanian the

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Speaker 1: very nicely done. Mr ray Um Rodney Rodney was always

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Speaker 1: welcome board, thanks for stopping by this hour. I'm Ronin

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Speaker 1: n A k A. The Car Doctor're here to talk

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Speaker 1: you about your car problem. And uh, you never know where.

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Speaker 1: It's it's listen. You may not even be able to

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Speaker 1: even the simple things aren't so simple. I wrote some

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Speaker 1: enjoyed driving a stick. I I think driving a manual

426
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 1: transmission is a lot of fun. And uh, you know

427
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: who who could say if they've ever driven an mg UH,

428
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: an MG Sprite or an MG t D or any

429
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: of the older smaller British sports cars to drive that

430
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: version in an automat attic if they made it was abysmal.

431
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: It was just horrible. There's something about zipping around shifting

432
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: a clutch and a transmission. One more thing, Richard continues

433
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: that I hope interests you. I think in the US,

434
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: and this is true, I didn't think about this angle.

435
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: In the US, one takes the driver's test in an

436
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: automatic and then you're good to drive anything. In the UK,

437
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: if you take a test in an automatic, that's all

438
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: you're allowed to drive. So maybe the cars those with

439
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: sticks are off limits. Hence over here we almost all

440
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: learn an a manual, take our test in a manual,

441
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: buy a manual, and that's the culture. Stay well, my

442
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: friend Dr Richard mckinn um. That's kind of interesting. You

443
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: know that you can't you can't purchase or you can't

444
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 1: drive a stick if you take your test in an automatic.

445
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: Maybe we should do that make people more responsible. I

446
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: think that's uh. Tom, you had a comment. I find

447
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: I get more control out of a manual, especially in

448
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: snow and ice. I feel safer in a manual transmission

449
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: than with a manual transmission than I do with an automatic. Yeah,

450
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: I would agree with that, and you have you know,

451
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what back in the day, I don't

452
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: know if so much now, but uh, you know, it

453
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: used to be that manual transmissions were easier to repair.

454
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: Less technology. I'll tell you this though, A clutch today

455
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: has become a very expensive proposition. We've got a ninety

456
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: eight Toyota Tacoma coming into the shop this week, which

457
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: you ought to have some rust and crunch on it,

458
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: but we've written an estimate to do a clutch, and

459
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,719
Speaker 1: we have to buy a flywheale because there's nobody left

460
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,959
Speaker 1: the machine flywheels in this half of the state. We're

461
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: gonna put a flywheel in it. That's gonna be about

462
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's and half of that is easily parts,

463
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 1: uh you know. And that's if it all comes apart easily,

464
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: which I'm not counting on. Uh, that's about that. That's

465
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: almost a full repair on an automatic transmission. Well, it

466
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: depends on the automatic five five grant to overhaul automatics.

467
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: And I'm talking New Jersey, New York prices because it

468
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: does vary as far as labor rate. But you know,

469
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: you can spend anywhere from four to six to put

470
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: an automatic in the average car today. It's it's not

471
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: an impossibility. Uh you know, it's it's just auto repair

472
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: has gotten frightfully expensive and a lot of that has

473
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: to do with the technology, and a lot of that

474
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: has to do with the price of the parts. We um.

475
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: I thought I was doing the right thing here. We

476
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: had a Jeep Grand Cherokee in the shop this week

477
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: that needed two tires, rear brakes and oil change. And

478
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: John had a squealing noise somewhere up front. So the

479
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: ticket fell in my rack. I I started, I did

480
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: the job, I diagnosed the squeal. The water pump was bad.

481
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: You could grab the water pump pully and rocket side

482
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: to side, so bad that the pulley would actually hit

483
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: the water pump. Housing needs a water pump. I don't

484
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: know why, but I tend to, you know, on a

485
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 1: fifteen with ninety thousand miles on it, water pump failures

486
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: to me are uncommon, and I've gotten in the habit

487
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: of looking for bulletins and any recalls and just to

488
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: be able to tell the customer, Hey, it's it's got

489
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: this or that going on. Well, it paid off this

490
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: fifth team cheap Grand Cherokee with with the hemimotor. The

491
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: water pump is under extension seven years unlimited mileage. I

492
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: could send him back to the dealer. He argued with

493
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: me a little bit because he really didn't want to

494
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: go back to the dealer. He said, you know, it's

495
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: it's it's like dating. I've dated this already. He goes,

496
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna end then the divorce. I said, I understand,

497
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: but I said, I'd feel bad putting a water pump

498
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: in a car and you have to pay me, whereas

499
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: you could get it for free from the manufacturer. They're

500
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: admitting their problem. He went back to the dealer. I

501
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: got a text the next day that there and they were.

502
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: They were right about it. It It didn't need a radiator.

503
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: The radiator was seeping in the one corner. But they

504
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 1: had him in panic mode. Oh my god, the radiator

505
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: is gonna blow up. It's leaking all over the place.

506
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's the point is, it's just

507
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: it's just difficult to to try and do the right

508
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: thing today. Right, everything gets more complicated. Nothing is simple,

509
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: nothing is clear cutting, straightforward. I told him, I said,

510
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: I feel bad sending you to the dealer. Now I

511
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: should have just the water pump. And he goes, you know,

512
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do, he says, but you're right,

513
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: he goes. At least with you, there's less stress. He goes,

514
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: you'll you'll tell me what I know I need. And

515
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: I have that relationship again, proving that the mechanics relationship

516
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: that you have is probably the most important. Let's pull over.

517
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: Take the pause. Five five zero the phone number. We're

518
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: here to talk to you about your car problem. We're

519
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: here to talk to you about your car in general,

520
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. I'm run a naming the

521
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 1: car doctor. I'm back right after this. Welcome back Ran

522
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: name the car Doctor. A quick letter from Let's see

523
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: who's this? This is from Jeff. Actually, Jeff wants to know, Hey, Ron,

524
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: what can you tell me about motor Rat. I understand

525
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: that they're working hard to shorten the supply chain problem

526
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: as well. I was listening to your comments before regarding

527
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: some companies that are working to do that. Yeah, Jeff,

528
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: you know what. Motorat is working hard to uh shorten

529
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: the supply chain problem. And you should realize that motor Rat,

530
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: even though we see it as an aftermarket arts company,

531
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: they are OE in so many cars from out into

532
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: Volkswagen to SOB to Chevrolet, UH to four. Their their

533
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: OE components in many vehicles and direct right you know,

534
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: brand new stuff right off the shelf. So motor at

535
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: top shelf company. You can find more information Jeff motorat

536
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: dot com, and you can see all the things that

537
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: Motorat does and contributes to the industry. Let's get over

538
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 1: and talk to Bob in Long Island ninety seven, buhiclest

539
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: Saber and some questions. Bob, Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir,

540
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: how can I help? Thanks Ron for taking my call.

541
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: You're welcome the instrument cluster. I need to have it rebuilt.

542
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: It's still the analog dages attack. I'm attacked and the

543
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: sweet amina doesn't work. Um, give me a reference. Yeah,

544
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I've got I've got two thoughts there.

545
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: And you're sure it's the cluster. It's been diagnosed. You

546
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: know it's a cluster problem or you're looking to have

547
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 1: a check to see if it is the cluster problem.

548
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: Which is it? Well, I mean when I turn start

549
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: the car up. Okay, so you've got to so you

550
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: know you can do this one of two ways. Um,

551
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: I've got two thoughts. In my number one, I take

552
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: a look at Dormant Products dot Com and just compare

553
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: if Dorman makes a remanned cluster, or they might even

554
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: have new it depends. But see what Dormant has available

555
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. They've started reproducing clusters.

556
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,239
Speaker 1: They've started remanning clusters. But Dormant Products dot Com your

557
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: local loaderparts store. That I'll tell you that, and you

558
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: can compare that on a price point. All right, that's

559
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: number one, And then my set. My second thought is

560
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: if you want to get your cluster repaired, n Buicles Saber.

561
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: There's a company in North Jersey, Model Electronics. Model Electronics

562
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: is the recognized GM repair center that and they've been

563
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: doing it, I believe since seventy seventy six. They've been

564
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: around forever. That you know, you can send them your

565
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: cluster and you know, either send it to them or

566
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: bring it to them, and if you're out on Long Island,

567
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: it's probably a two hour ride, I'm guessing, and uh,

568
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, leave it with them and they can give

569
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: you some you know, estimates for reconditioning. I've got to

570
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: thank based on what I've experienced on GM cluster reconditioning

571
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: from them. It's going to arrange anywhere from and don't

572
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: hear the low number only. I've got to think anywhere

573
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: from two fifty up to six bucks. So but you know,

574
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: perhaps you get somebody on the phone there you can

575
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: discuss it with them and uh, you know see what

576
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: that gets you. But those are the two best sources

577
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: I know of, and they're reliable and they're they're they're reputable,

578
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: they stand behind their product, all right. Could could do

579
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: a model M O D E L like a like

580
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 1: a model airplane. Model Electronics, all right, see what that

581
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: does for you. All right, Bob, thanks very much, You're

582
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: very welcome, sir. Good luck to you. Um it's it's

583
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: getting harder and harder to find certain components, certain products,

584
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: just companies that deal with what we want to deal with.

585
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: And you know, there's a lot of different ways to

586
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: go about and do things that it doesn't always have

587
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: to be complicated and involved. Had someone asked me the

588
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: other day, um here, I'll share this one with you.

589
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: Someone wrote in they said, Hey, winter's coming up, I

590
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: want to take care of my new car, and I've

591
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: heard of an alternate to undercoating. What can you tell

592
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: me about New Hampshire Oil undercoatings. Well, we've talked about

593
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: New Hampshire Oil Undercoating. New Hampshire Oil Undercoating is a

594
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: company out of New Hampshire. They've come up with a

595
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: food grade mineral oil product that they spray on the

596
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: vehicle that will allow the vehicle to be protected. They

597
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: protect the chassis, the floor pan and it doesn't damage

598
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: or encompass any objects that if you have to remove them,

599
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, still maintains accessibility. It's superior in so many

600
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: ways to uh, you know, traditional undercoating. Tar based products

601
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: or you know, uh, hard undercoding products, so you know,

602
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: it's it's there's a lot of technology out there, you've

603
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: got to utilize it. You can probably find them out online.

604
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: I believe their website is New Hampshire Oil Undercoating dot

605
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: com or just Google search new Hampshire Oil Undercoating. There's

606
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: a lot of al turners, a lot of choices out there,

607
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: so you know, for the caller that had called the

608
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: asking about that, or the listener that wrote in, UM,

609
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: there's your choice too. We always like to talk about

610
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: those things. And let me pull over and take the

611
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: last break. When a return, we'll get back to the

612
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: phones and talk to Kathy and Georgia and see what's

613
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: going on here. Real quick, I'm run an any in

614
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. Welcome

615
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: back car doctor here day by five five zero. Let's

616
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: get over talk to Kathy and Georgia in our closing

617
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: couple of minutes. Kathy, welcome to board. How can I

618
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: help UM? Yes, I was listening to your opening monologue

619
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: about the battery. If it's not UM connected correctly down

620
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: and give off weird codes. That's exactly I mean that

621
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: happened to me. I had a control module go bad,

622
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: so I hadn't buy mechanics put that in, and he

623
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: also put in a new battery, and he said he

624
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: drove it and everything's fine. So I bring it home.

625
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: The next day, I drive it and I'm on the

626
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: highway and all of a sudden, it sends a code.

627
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: It says it can't find the gear to shift, and

628
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: if the car won't, the engine is still going, but

629
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: it won't go for it. It's like gain neutral. So

630
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: we're sending all these codes about transmission. Can't find the code,

631
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean, can't find the gear. So I go to

632
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: three places. The first place was like, we want five

633
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: dollars to diagnose it, to tell you if it's your transmission,

634
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: because we're gonna have to take it apart and it's

635
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: gonna take hours. And I'm so it was like five

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Speaker 1: to another place. The guy says, this your transmission. I

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Speaker 1: need three thousand dollars. And then the third guy, and

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Speaker 1: which was an Americo. He was wonderful. He said, no,

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Speaker 1: I tied up your battery was the cable wasn't connected

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Speaker 1: tied enough, and it solved the problem and they didn't

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Speaker 1: charge me anything. So I was scary that I had

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Speaker 1: two other one was a dealership, another one it's like

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Speaker 1: guy says you need a whole new transmission. That would

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Speaker 1: have been three thousand, you know. And it was a cable, right,

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Speaker 1: And that's what happens, and that's why, you know. And

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Speaker 1: I'm curious and we're out of time, and I wish

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Speaker 1: I could ask the question, Kathy, I'd be curious, why

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Speaker 1: But uh, you know what, not to blame him, but

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Speaker 1: just you know, to have him look at it. So

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Speaker 1: I guess you've got your reasons. We'll we'll maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: find out in the future show. I appreciate the call

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Speaker 1: Kathy very much, and for everybody else that just goes

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Speaker 1: to show you know, it's the devil's and the details

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Speaker 1: and the details are always the basics. Always do the

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Speaker 1: basics before you do any hardcore repairs. Is of startup

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Speaker 1: your diagnostics. I'm running any in the car doctor reminding

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Speaker 1: you until the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 1: See you