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Speaker 4: Is that the play that turns around the Jets season,

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Speaker 4: I am Greg Rosen here in the garage for NFL

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Speaker 4: Daily and yes, joining me on this show. Seth Payne,

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Speaker 2: Now one of the best. Why are you laughing? Why

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Speaker 5: They call that's what the NFL calls all the retired

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Speaker 4: Yes, and yes you can catch Seth if you're in Houston.

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Speaker 1: Shut good Aaron Rodgers hut pre receivers right, Garrett.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely worked.

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Speaker 5: Apologize, right, Okay, this is the This is what you

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Speaker 4: ever seen. So I think he's got great players to

441
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 4: work with, and it was a little less about the

442
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 4: scheme last year and more just about you know that

443
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 4: they built the right offense around him, but excellent players.

444
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 4: You have an all pro left tackle, you have a

445
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 4: dynamite quarterback, you have Nico Collins, you have tanked out well.

446
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 4: Now take down went six for one to twenty six tonight.

447
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 4: I think that was encouraging for all this honking I've

448
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 4: done about Stroud, Like the touchdown drive that they had.

449
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 4: He had two of the best throws you'll ever see,

450
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 4: one to Robert Woods on the run, one to Tank

451
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 4: Dell and then he had the fifty yard er to

452
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 4: Tank Dell in the second half, which is just absolutely

453
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 4: insane throw. So the talents there, the excitements there. It's

454
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 4: not like I think this thing can't get fixed. I'm

455
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 4: glad you mentioned the Blitz because Jeff Albrick deserves some

456
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 4: credit for when he dialed it up. This has been

457
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 4: a bad Jets defense over the last three weeks since

458
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 4: he took over, so they get a little credit here

459
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 4: for getting the win. Stroud goes oh for five against

460
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 4: the Blitz when he threw it, and that says it all.

461
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how many sacks he took. I believe

462
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 4: it it was two sacks on those plays. Two felt

463
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 4: like yeah. So he did not complete a pass against

464
00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 4: the Blitz and Hassan Reddick makes a difference this team

465
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 4: and in this game, like C. J. Stroud was strip

466
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 4: sacked in the first half. They had the ball inside

467
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 4: the ten or inside the fifteen early in the game,

468
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 4: and that was from a Quinn Williams pressure on your

469
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 4: boy Green. Yeah, But also on the other side, Clemens

470
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 4: collapsing the pocket. Reddick was collapsing the pocket all night.

471
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 4: He ended up getting a sack and then c J.

472
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 4: Stroud was trying to step up, but he couldn't step

473
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 4: up because there was Quinn Williams in the middle. So

474
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 4: Will McDonald like, they had guys step up and whatever

475
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 4: the vision for whoever the Jets are gonna be. Yes,

476
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 4: it's against this Texans offensive line, who have looked bad

477
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 4: against everyone, but so of the Patriots and the Texans.

478
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 4: I mean, the Jets passers looked terrible last week, just

479
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 4: five days ago against the Patriots. So's it's a pretty

480
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 4: big step in the right direction for the Jets to

481
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 4: take what's a struggling unit and actually make a difference

482
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 4: on defense. It's been a while and they're gonna have

483
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 4: a long weekend and they're gonna feel like, Okay, maybe

484
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 4: we can build from.

485
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Speaker 3: This, you know.

486
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Speaker 5: And I think from the Texans perspective against this team

487
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 5: and the Jets, I was saying all week, look, they're

488
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 5: two and six. Great, there's no looking past the Jets

489
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 5: because all you have to do is look at the

490
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 5: depth chart. And if there's anybody on the Texans that

491
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 5: was looking at the Jets depth chart and thought, nah,

492
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 5: two and six football team, like you're dead inside, You're

493
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 5: dead inside, or you're you're high all the time. They

494
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 5: they've got players all over the place. The story was

495
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 5: that they were what's.

496
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Speaker 4: That I just said? That sounds like a fun compo

497
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Speaker 4: Sorry for dead.

498
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, well usually it goes in the other order, but yeah,

499
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 5: they it's like, there's no there's no letups. Versus this

500
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 5: team on a in a primetime game, You're just You're

501
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 5: going against Aaron freaking Rogers.

502
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 3: I don't care what he's looked like this year so far.

503
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 5: You're going against Garrett Garrett Wilson had three hundred yard

504
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 5: games in the previous four games. You're going against DeVante Adams, who, yeah,

505
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 5: hadn't done much, but he's DeVante Adams and he's just

506
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 5: been on the team.

507
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 3: For a couple of weeks. Last week, the Jets looked.

508
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 5: Against the Patriots like they didn't know what They couldn't

509
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 5: get a playoff they burned. Last week, the Jets burned

510
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 5: three timeouts in the first quarter to avoid delay of games.

511
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 5: They got a delay a game in the fourth quarter,

512
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 5: and and in the first quarter of this game, you

513
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 5: had your chance to pounce right. The Jets were doing

514
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 5: all kinds of Jets type things, except the Texans match

515
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 5: them pace for pace with idiotic, weird, stupid things to do.

516
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think if I were a Jets fan,

517
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 5: you don't want to read too much into a win

518
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 5: like this. But that second half, man, they looked they

519
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 5: looked a lot like that depth chart should look when

520
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 5: they're playing actual football.

521
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, they play the card. It was funny. Al Michaels

522
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: was great on this. Well, I wouldn't say he was

523
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 4: great on this broadcast overall, because like when the game's

524
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 4: bad there, it was just so low energy. They're just

525
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 4: every once in a while, I just think doesn't does

526
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 4: the NFL ever watch this and like want announcers who

527
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 4: are a little more excited about the game, because they're

528
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 4: always just so complaining when it's a bad game and

529
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 4: the met life was dead, they're actually chanting. They were

530
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 4: actually chanting sell the team as they were going to halftime.

531
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,239
Speaker 4: And there's Booze and Alan Kirk, but they when he

532
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 4: was taking He is great in certain aspects too, though

533
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 4: Al was saying how Aaron Rodgers when he met with him,

534
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 4: just went through this whole thing, and Al was sort

535
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 4: of rolling his eyes as he was talking. He was

536
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 4: very convincing talking about well, they'll just beat the Cardinals

537
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 4: and they're gonna be a Western team going east, and

538
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 4: then it'll be a short week and you got the

539
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 4: Colts and then you go to a bye and blah

540
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 4: blah blah. And I'm like, yeah, I mean, you can

541
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 4: kind of make the case there they can win any

542
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 4: of these games. None of them are locks, and so

543
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 4: the Jets could get back into it at three and six.

544
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 4: The problem is, are they that much more likely to

545
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 4: win any of these games than lose.

546
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: They all seem.

547
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 4: About like fifty to fifty propositions. As much as the

548
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 4: Texans have probably been like a four and four type

549
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 4: of team instead of six and two coming, I think

550
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 4: the Jets have been closer to a five hundred team,

551
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 4: and they just keep losing these heartbreaking class teams and

552
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 4: so it'll probably bounce out. But that still just means

553
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 4: you're a five hundred team. It doesn't mean you're about

554
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 4: to go on some great run.

555
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 5: I think it's a big one to win this game

556
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 5: tonight for the Jets. This is the very moment in

557
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 5: the season when professionalism can start to wane. If the

558
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 5: team is just dead in the water, then your younger

559
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 5: players or your less professional players kind of start to

560
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 5: let go of the rope a little bit and just

561
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 5: let the water take them down. They start staying out

562
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 5: a little later, they're not in the weight room as early,

563
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 5: so that's a big boost at this point in the season.

564
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 5: I think for the Texans, the trend has just been

565
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 5: kind of a steady degradation from weeks from week one

566
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 5: until now to where things look like they're starting to

567
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 5: catch up with some of their deficiencies, like the Texans

568
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 5: tackling even on defense. As good as they've been on

569
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 5: defense the first few weeks, they were really sound attack.

570
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 5: Then you saw tonight lots of mistackles, lots of poor angles,

571
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 5: lots of just giving guys like guys that look like

572
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 5: they do on the depth chart, the chance to break

573
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 5: long runs. You know what, though, I gotta blame Bill

574
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 5: Belichick a little bit. I think, Oh, I didn't need

575
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick going out criticizing his sond reddick and then

576
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 5: his sound reddick firing back on him on social media.

577
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw that.

578
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: I didn't. Yeah, you see the firing back.

579
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 5: No oh no, Belichick just said mentioned on the McAfee

580
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 5: shower on one of the nineteen outlets. He's on the

581
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 5: sound Reddick was just kind of running past the quarterback

582
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 5: last week, so a sound Reddick sond Reddick said something

583
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 5: like Belichick. Belichick sounds like he's just sitting at home

584
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 5: and board. He needs a job, And I was like, well, yeah,

585
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 5: I mean, he's probably making more money than you at

586
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 5: his current jobs.

587
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: But he he showed up tonight.

588
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, so did Belichick on one of those

589
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 4: underdog ads though, I mean he's cashing them check.

590
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: So oh, they're both they're both doing well.

591
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 5: Put a pin in the ad thing for a second,

592
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 5: because as far as the San Reddit goes, and that

593
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 5: that defensive line in general versus the Texans offensive line,

594
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 5: the I'm so tired.

595
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: I'm so tired of people. We've got this.

596
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 5: We've got like this propaganda machine for the offensive line

597
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 5: in Houston where people keep trying to point out how

598
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 5: good the actual offensive line actually is, and they'll bring

599
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 5: up the proof the PFF grades, the Pro Football Focus

600
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 5: grades of the offensive tackles, and I'm like, listen, in

601
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 5: pass protection, they've generally been pretty good. But I don't

602
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 5: usually play the PFF game. But if you're gonna start

603
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 5: the PFF game pull up their overall grades because both

604
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 5: those offensive tackles are graded like twentieth and twenty eighth

605
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 5: in PFF. So if you're gonna play the PFF game,

606
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 5: don't cherry pick. It's been a bad offensive line. As

607
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 5: far as the ads, okay, they tailor those ads during

608
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 5: the Amazon broadcast, don't they. There, we don't all see

609
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 5: the same commercials. I think they base on your purchase

610
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 5: history because I wanted to buy every damn thing I

611
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 5: saw one.

612
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, the Amazon ones are crazy. Yeah, it's a

613
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 4: lot of I'm trying to think what they do. Yeah,

614
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 4: they put it up on the screen to just buy it.

615
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: It's a lot of target well not even.

616
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, but also just like the actual conventional TV type commercials,

617
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 5: we're not all seeing the same commercials because I've never

618
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 5: wanted I changed car insurance companies last month, I saw

619
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 5: like every other ad was like even more so than

620
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 5: a normal football broadcast, an or ring which now I

621
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 5: want one of these fitness trackers. I saw it and

622
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 5: I want it now, and I've never seen.

623
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 3: An ad for it.

624
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: But I didn't see that.

625
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: I didn't see that.

626
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 5: You probably saw a lot of toy commercials and stuff,

627
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 5: and I saw zero toy commercials.

628
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I got the kids.

629
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 4: Actually, while we're talking social media, let's actually put up

630
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 4: a couple of other tweets. I just was enjoying the

631
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 4: Seth Payne performance on Twitter in the first half of

632
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: this game. He writes, Sauce tackles like the elite golfer.

633
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: He's focused.

634
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 5: Oh those were the days, weren't they back when I

635
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 5: was talking smack?

636
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right though.

637
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 4: Sas Gardner had one drive in this game where I

638
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 4: think he had a penalty mistackle. He gave up a

639
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 4: big play. He was crazy, and then he left hurt.

640
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 4: For a minute, it was just like, wow, he missed.

641
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: The tackle to Dalton Schultz.

642
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 5: Then he got beat by by the forty seven year

643
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 5: old Robert Woods on a triple move, and.

644
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: Then he got beat by John Well.

645
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 5: He had to hold John Mechi because John Metchie was

646
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 5: about to beat him, and then he got injured as

647
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 5: he held him.

648
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, that that was a brutal drive

649
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: for him.

650
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 4: A couple of young cornerbacks who've been playing pretty rough.

651
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 4: Let's see another tweet from Seth pain Those Jets fans

652
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 4: have to pay a fee for grocery bags in New York,

653
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 4: So you know they mean it.

654
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, reference to the guys wearing the bags over

655
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 5: their heads.

656
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 6: They're imitating a good good follow What is it at seth'

657
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 6: sea pin seth sea pain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 5: I quit Twitter for a while and then I really

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Speaker 5: well people started paying me to tweet. So I'm like,

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Speaker 5: all right, I'm backing it, baby, people are.

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Speaker 2: Paying you to tweet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get sponsored posts now.

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Speaker 5: Wow. No, I always I do the little hashtag. Don't worry, Greg,

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to Amazon you.

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Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta get in on that.

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Speaker 6: Those were some info afterwards.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's take a quick break and we'll be back

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Speaker 4: in just a second. Look, should we listen to uh

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Speaker 4: the Malachi Corley dropped us to see what was it

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Speaker 4: worth it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Those were the days too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the pain of the jets as they were going

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Speaker 4: in for the potential touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Let's listen alone setback it.

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Speaker 1: Named around a Malicai gets a block, gets to the

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Speaker 1: twenty to the fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Of the turn pilot.

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Speaker 2: It's a jet touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: The rookie he's an appearance, said, finds the end zone

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Speaker 1: Mala guy Carly his first Jet touchdown in New York

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Speaker 1: takes the lead early.

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Speaker 5: On the field of a touchdown is under further reviews.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure for what it turns out makes say

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Speaker 1: rookie mistake. He dropped the ball before he broke the

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Speaker 1: plane at the end zone celebrating his touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Oh that poor kid man.

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Speaker 4: Uh, that was only his second NFL touch his first touchdown.

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Speaker 4: First of all, hold on to that ball. He just

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Speaker 4: let it roll right out the back of the whole

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Speaker 4: end zone.

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Speaker 3: One.

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Speaker 4: No one was paying attention to that ball. If the

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Speaker 4: Texan said picked that up and ran with it, who knows?

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Speaker 5: I mean, Melchi, this is what I tell Meliki Coley. Listen,

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Speaker 5: Malachi Uh. First of all, killer name, awesome, good job.

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Speaker 5: The second I was on the field when a young

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Speaker 5: Plexico Burris in his first game ever, got a reception

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Speaker 5: over the middle, untouched by defenders, went to the ground,

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Speaker 5: stood up and spiked the ball and we recovered it

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Speaker 5: and plascow. Burris would go on to have a largely

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Speaker 5: unblemished career, a productive career after that on the field.

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Speaker 5: So don't worry. He never did Plexco Burro has never

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Speaker 5: did another stupid thing on the field. Yeah, so you'll

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Speaker 5: be cool in New York.

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Speaker 3: Register your firearms. Smell Chai.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know what he also did though, which I feel

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Speaker 4: like he doesn't get enough pop for score the goddamn

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Speaker 4: game winning touchdown to beat the only undefeated team in

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Speaker 4: NFL history in the Super Bowl. It's kind of weird

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Speaker 4: that the Plexico Burris just absolutely destroying Ellis Hobbs off

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Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage gets forgotten in that moment.

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Speaker 5: Right, But these are I do say it occurred to

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Speaker 5: me as Malachi Courtly did that, or is that we

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Speaker 5: realized that Malachi Courtly did that.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you should.

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Speaker 5: Get one mulligan in a career, like for something like that,

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Speaker 5: that somehow you can just say, all right, this is

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Speaker 5: once in a career you get to a mulligan on

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Speaker 5: something like when you pull a leon let or let

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Speaker 5: I'll say, Anthony Richardson pull himself out.

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Speaker 3: Of the game because he was because he was tired.

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Speaker 4: Oh, come on, running backs do that all the time.

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Speaker 4: You know, he just had thrown like a three hundred

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Speaker 4: pounder off of.

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Speaker 5: The running backs do do it all the time. And

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Speaker 5: that's the point. It's that the running backs get rotated out.

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Speaker 5: The point being that in the one hundred plus history

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Speaker 5: one hundred plus year history of the NFL, nobody can

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Speaker 5: remember another time a quarterback has done that. So and

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Speaker 5: by the way, yeah, he threw off. So when Anthony

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Speaker 5: Richardson took himself out of the game.

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Speaker 3: He threw the he threw fully, fully fought a.

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Speaker 5: Cossi fell off his back, which was impressive that Anthony

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Speaker 5: Richardson did that three hundred plus pound defensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: But he didn't even make it to the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 5: Like it wasn't like a Lamar Jackson forty nine yard

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Speaker 5: run or anything like. He he got sacked on that

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Speaker 5: play and then it was too tired to go back in.

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Speaker 5: This is fair, this is watchable.

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Speaker 4: This is why you need the legend perspective because I'm

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Speaker 4: just I'm just a podcaster, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, that's so bad.

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Speaker 4: And then you hear the actual Coults team captain Ryan

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Speaker 4: Kelly like basically saying what you just said after the game.

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I guess I'm I guess I'm

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Speaker 4: wrong on this one. And that's that's why you are.

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Speaker 5: You know what, Okay, so no, this is this is

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Speaker 5: one of those things where I learned long ago. I

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Speaker 5: never want to be that guy that says like, you

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Speaker 5: don't know because you didn't play the game.

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Speaker 3: I hate that.

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Speaker 5: I hate that when athletes do that, because your job,

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Speaker 5: if you're in broadcasting, is to use your experience to

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Speaker 5: explain why it's different. So I got I got a

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Speaker 5: lot of questions from people this week, like, hey, stuff,

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Speaker 5: why is it that big a deal? So I had

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Speaker 5: to calm myself and not be a meatthead.

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Speaker 3: That's like, because that's the way it is.

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Speaker 5: It's listen, quarterbacks, that's your offense, and you're if you're

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Speaker 5: out there, it's because you need to be out there

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Speaker 5: directing the show.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, if you just had a.

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Speaker 5: Physically grolling play, then if you're if your coordinator knows

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Speaker 5: what the hell he's doing, he's not going to call

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Speaker 5: a run play on the next play.

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Speaker 3: But this is what's being lost in it. Greg.

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Speaker 5: It was third in goal. It was third and goal

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Speaker 5: when they were down by ten. So imagine being a

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Speaker 5: quarterback in a third and goal situation, down by ten

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Speaker 5: deciding that like, who I just I don't feel like

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Speaker 5: i'm one hundred percent I better, I need a breather

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Speaker 5: here before we kick a field goal.

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Speaker 2: For young man.

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Speaker 4: But he added a lot of context frankly that you know,

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Speaker 4: we have a daily show, it's in the name, and

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Speaker 4: yet we didn't have a lot of this context previously.

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Speaker 4: So again, that's why you are a legend. And look,

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00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 4: you were very self effacing.

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Speaker 2: When when I called you that early on.

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Speaker 4: But it's like I've heard people say this, like this

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Speaker 4: is like the thing about like young white guys just

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Speaker 4: when they hang around, like you can just be like

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Speaker 4: like someone can walk in you amongst your.

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Speaker 2: Friends, just like, oh it's Bob. It's the legend. It's

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Speaker 2: the legend. And it's just like, wait, who's Bob. He's

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Speaker 2: just like, oh, he's in accounting, you know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'll take that. Yeah he's a legend. Yeah

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Speaker 3: all right, yeah that's you.

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Speaker 2: Seth Pain.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, check out his YouTube channel Seth Pain on

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Speaker 4: YouTube and Pain and Pendergrass and yeah, you're starting that

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Speaker 4: show soon, so we will.

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Speaker 2: We will send you on your merry way.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. Man.

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Speaker 2: We will be back for our pick show.

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Speaker 4: We got it, uh with Cynthia Freelan on Friday afternoon,

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Speaker 4: and then yeah, we we do the whole thing once

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00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 4: again with our Sunday recap show. And yeah, look when

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00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 4: the Jets are just given their face and some hope

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00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 4: might turn into false hope, and it's getting into November.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know football is back.

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Speaker 3: Texans chets AFC Championship.

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Speaker 5: Yes,