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Speaker 2: Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola,
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Speaker 3: Stamp.
Speaker 4: The conductor of the band Everson Walls.
Speaker 5: And do you know how close we came to not
Speaker 5: playing a fight song today?
Speaker 4: What happened?
Speaker 3: We have Everson Walls conducting. The Steelers had Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 6: Okay, that's right, man, Come on, man, that's right. See
Speaker 6: Snoop Snoop messing with the Cowboys. I don't know why
Speaker 6: they act like he's not a Cowboy fan. He's been
Speaker 6: messing with the Cowboys for long.
Speaker 4: Still get bogged down in Snoop Dogg. This is a.
Speaker 5: Victory Monday here inside the s w b C podcast
Speaker 5: studio today. In fact, the Cowboys won earlier today.
Speaker 3: This is isn't it might have the only quarterback who's
Speaker 3: thrown or thrown touchdown passes. Uh two days, two days,
Speaker 3: two days in a row. Now, the touchdowns were a
Speaker 3: long time ago.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the interceptions were Sunday.
Speaker 3: Okay, that was That was Sunday.
Speaker 5: Monday was a new day, and here we are, and somehow,
Speaker 5: some way, Mickey Spagnola made it for mixed shots.
Speaker 3: It was a people were going to work as I
Speaker 3: was going home.
Speaker 4: I think were they honking their horns at you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, absolutely, It's like, get out of our way,
Speaker 3: you're dragon.
Speaker 5: Because victory win a game.
Speaker 4: Now there's Mickey hawking your horn.
Speaker 3: I was scared I was going to get pulled over
Speaker 3: for weaving or something because I wasn't concentrating for it
Speaker 3: was we landed.
Speaker 4: What time was it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we landed touchdown at four point fifty. By
Speaker 3: time we got to the charter site was five. I
Speaker 3: think I got my bags into the car at five
Speaker 3: point fifteen, got home at five forty five, and went
Speaker 3: to bed at six o'clock. So it's a damn good thing.
Speaker 3: Tough because I was three hours.
Speaker 4: Good thing. That Pittsburgh flight is much closer.
Speaker 3: Than the East Coast or the West coast.
Speaker 6: But the rain delay did not help at all. No,
Speaker 6: that just added to everything.
Speaker 3: What did you guys do during the raid delay?
Speaker 4: I was signing out of glass.
Speaker 6: Well, that gave me a chance to sign all the
Speaker 6: photos that I had there, ran out of the photos,
Speaker 6: start hanging out with the people, and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wrote my ten thirty sports.
Speaker 5: Gats last night and a half hours and so I
Speaker 5: was able to lock in on the first half of
Speaker 5: the game. Everything was in the can, as we say,
Speaker 5: so I was able to really and then we came
Speaker 5: on the air at ten thirty on our sportscasts and
Speaker 5: that was started the second half. So I wasn't able
Speaker 5: to watch any of the second half live basically, and
Speaker 5: drove home and then watched it all after I got home.
Speaker 3: So did you get an update from I guess not.
Speaker 3: She was in the prescott.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, No, she was doing her job watching the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she didn't run down and doing a life shadow.
Speaker 3: I didn't in the hallway.
Speaker 5: There's nobody watching us, there's no In fact, we literally
Speaker 5: mailed it in on our show. Yeah, talking about college
Speaker 5: football and stuff, which make he doesn't want to talk
Speaker 5: about because we're better.
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
Speaker 4: What happened? Happened happens. I'll just say this. I'll just
Speaker 4: say this.
Speaker 5: If Missouri had gotten that one pass interference call, if
Speaker 5: they hadn't picked up the flag on that that game
Speaker 5: would have been a whole lot different in college station
Speaker 5: on Saturday.
Speaker 4: I never know, that's right, that is a lie. Okay,
Speaker 4: let's get to them.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: It was first of all, there that reason I said,
Speaker 4: I do it. But we're talking Cowboys.
Speaker 5: We'll talk to Missouri later, Okay, okay, yeah, we'll get
Speaker 5: the couch out and we'll talk Missouri football.
Speaker 4: There. Let's talk what happened?
Speaker 3: Talk Vanderbilt?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right. Oh, I got a phone call,
Speaker 4: got Nate.
Speaker 5: All right, So the alarm sounded on the Cowboys game
Speaker 5: on the last play of the game, and we got
Speaker 5: to play the fight song because of Jalen Tolbert and
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott, I'm a host of others.
Speaker 3: And a host of others that I'm guessing nobody knew
Speaker 3: their names that had to play out of necessity. Did
Speaker 3: anybody know Tyris Wheat was on the team ended up
Speaker 3: playing sixty of the snaps when in his career I
Speaker 3: think he might have played a grand total of ten snaps.
Speaker 3: Did you know people know that TJ. Bass was on
Speaker 3: this team? Oh my gosh, everybody forgot about brock Hoffman.
Speaker 3: Probably forgot that Tyler Smith could play left tackle. Just
Speaker 3: on and on and on, and I'm glad the Cowboys
Speaker 3: didn't forget that Cavante Turpin is a wide receiver and
Speaker 3: you can throw him the ball along with hand him
Speaker 3: the ball hunter. Lipkey's making a name for him.
Speaker 4: Yo, boy, about that.
Speaker 5: Chick, Look over your shoulder, because there's a Pro bowler
Speaker 5: coming your way.
Speaker 4: That was in a couple of.
Speaker 3: Eighteen.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have a We're gonna have a match up
Speaker 5: in San Francisco here in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: It's a battle for the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3: I thought he was back. I thought he was going
Speaker 3: all the way.
Speaker 4: I did too. I did too. I thought he was
Speaker 4: gonna just drag him on in.
Speaker 3: And it just goes on and on and on that
Speaker 3: people didn't know these guys were on the team. And
Speaker 3: you know, it was bad enough that they went into
Speaker 3: the game with so many guys unable to play, and
Speaker 3: then four plays in they lose their fourth defensive end.
Speaker 3: When Kneeland goes down by the.
Speaker 4: Way when he was dom man, I was like, oh, come.
Speaker 3: On, man, you know I thought I thought Mike McCarthy's cursing.
Speaker 5: By the way, he had four snaps in the game.
Speaker 5: Shawn Neeland and he had two tackles. Yeah, wow, how
Speaker 5: about that?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 3: And and it didn't look good when he left, especially
Speaker 3: on crutches. Douglas just texted me and said, Stephen Jones
Speaker 3: said he's day to day. So we'll see what the
Speaker 3: MRI says. But the early indication it looked pretty serious.
Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens there. But you lose him.
Speaker 3: So no Micah, no DeMarcus Lawrence, no Sam Williams, and
Speaker 3: now Noneland. That's your top four defensive ends that we're
Speaker 3: going to start the season. And you know the funny
Speaker 3: thing before the game, I'm talking with Greg Ellis and
Speaker 3: uh and I said, so you only got what three
Speaker 3: four defensive ends? And he goes, yeah, I go, what
Speaker 3: do you do if someone gets hurt? Just like that,
Speaker 3: he goes, yeah, we'll have to maybe use linebackers that.
Speaker 5: Troy McCarthy you have basically said after the game too.
Speaker 3: And Carl Lawson gets called up off the practice squad
Speaker 3: for his third time. Now they're gonna probably have to
Speaker 3: put him one.
Speaker 5: He's assuredly going to get signed to the fifty three
Speaker 5: because they got nobody else.
Speaker 3: And nothing against them but j Henry won't be inactive
Speaker 3: anymore probably. Uh so, yeah, and then you lose Geiton.
Speaker 4: How how does that look?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hadn't. I didn't get a good indication of
Speaker 3: just where he's at.
Speaker 4: He was back out on the sideline.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least he was on the sideline.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 3: We're sitting there going, well, yeah, awesome's kind of awesome.
Speaker 3: Richard's kind of the backup left tackle. And then they
Speaker 3: had a plan to move Tyler Smith over there and
Speaker 3: play TJ. Bassett guard, which kind of worked. I'd say, right,
Speaker 3: I thought, I thought Tyler played well, and you know what,
Speaker 3: I would have to go back and look, so this
Speaker 3: is his third year, Yes, yes, I bet he hadn't
Speaker 3: played left tackle since his rookie year.
Speaker 4: I don't think he ever slid out like last year.
Speaker 4: I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't recall it. And he certainly didn't do it
Speaker 3: in the first four games. And he goes out and
Speaker 3: plays left tackle like he belonged there and he may.
Speaker 7: Oh, by the way, before the you got the final
Speaker 7: stats there, the rushing stats for the game, okay, before
Speaker 7: the guiding injury the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: I went back and added it up. They had six
Speaker 4: carries for eighteen yards after guy An injury. What were
Speaker 4: the total.
Speaker 3: Numbers twenty I'm sorry, thirty one for one oh nine.
Speaker 5: Okay, so they went twenty five for one oh one n.
Speaker 3: One on total.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they went twenty five for ninety one after
Speaker 5: the guid An injury running the.
Speaker 3: Ball almost four the yards and carry and you know
Speaker 3: the fact that they kept the game closed. They could
Speaker 3: stick with the run. And it kind of showed that
Speaker 3: the more carries Ricaldowdell got, the more he gets. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the more he gained. By the way, so everybody knows
Speaker 3: that he can run the ball. Now there's no more. Well,
Speaker 3: they got it. They don't have a running back, you know.
Speaker 5: And by the way, I think Zeke can too. I
Speaker 5: mean I think they they are what they are running
Speaker 5: back and that they were good enough to control a
Speaker 5: football game of the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4: Uh and when they were.
Speaker 5: Can consistently run of the ball, and they were controlling
Speaker 5: the game, right and they and by the way, I
Speaker 5: mean yards of Dak throw for and he threw forty
Speaker 5: two times for three hundred and.
Speaker 3: Fifty two three and fifty three hundred and.
Speaker 4: Fifty two yards. Yes, yep. So when you run seventy
Speaker 4: five plays on offense. It should have been could have
Speaker 4: been a three touchdown win. Right, it's a red zone
Speaker 4: turn turnovers. I guess that's my only issue is penalties,
Speaker 4: penalties and the turnovers.
Speaker 6: The turn I don't think the turnovers happen if we're
Speaker 6: not desperate. Well, and we were desperate a lot of times,
Speaker 6: and we'd go out to trying to keep a drive
Speaker 6: alive because we kept creating these penalties.
Speaker 4: Well, the turnovers, they were first half.
Speaker 3: It's a miscommunication with DAK and CD on the goal line.
Speaker 4: They throw, I think they communicate pretty well. After he
Speaker 4: was gonna he said they were.
Speaker 3: He was throwing a back shoulder and c D kept
Speaker 3: going the fumble. I mean he's hanging in there, trying
Speaker 3: to create something, right exactly by two guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got blasted.
Speaker 3: And then the other one. They were just being way
Speaker 3: too aggressive at that point. On the deep pass, it
Speaker 3: was like, what are you doing? Right?
Speaker 6: And if you're gonna throw that, I wouldn't have attacked
Speaker 6: that area. The safety was coming over and the only
Speaker 6: way that I think he could have avoided the dB
Speaker 6: making the player on the ball was to throw it
Speaker 6: towards the safety, So he would have been either way
Speaker 6: throwing let him go go, let him inside as opposed
Speaker 6: to leave.
Speaker 3: They thought CD was dragged the safety out of there,
Speaker 3: and and he held in there longer than they.
Speaker 5: And by the way, I give the defense credit for it,
Speaker 5: for the takeaways to the Pittsburgh defense that.
Speaker 3: You know, all the people out there want to see
Speaker 3: him go deep, go along. Okay, well sometimes it doesn't
Speaker 3: turn out so well. But anyway, Oh, and Douglas said
Speaker 3: that Stephen Jones said, guiding his day to day kneeling,
Speaker 3: we've got our fingers crossed that it's not for the season.
Speaker 4: Well, we'll see that sounds more weak to week then yeah.
Speaker 3: If but it doesn't sound like he maybe uh has
Speaker 3: gotten the results of the mri IY right, so anyway,
Speaker 3: go ahead. Yeah, the turnovers, but they overcame them. That's
Speaker 3: the that's how well it shows you they can play, right,
Speaker 3: the things they overcame, They overcame some BS personal files.
Speaker 3: The three Blind mice were out there. I swearing to god.
Speaker 4: They did the game in college Station Saturday too.
Speaker 3: Yes, they did. It was a it was a continuation. No,
Speaker 3: it was actually a continuation of the high school game.
Speaker 3: I saw on.
Speaker 5: Friday the same crew.
Speaker 4: The Marcus game. Was it the Marcus game you went
Speaker 4: to on Friday night? High school game?
Speaker 3: Was Mark Marcus?
Speaker 5: Hebron Okay, So they did that game and then they
Speaker 5: went to.
Speaker 3: I'm not that game. I'm not saying they went They
Speaker 3: just made too many calls.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: But but well what now, Look the wheat hit on field.
Speaker 3: He's not a quarterback. He's running, right, He is running
Speaker 3: and you're just trying to make a tackle. Don't say
Speaker 3: he roughed the quarterback. He roughed the running back who
Speaker 3: ended up throwing the ball. And then the one on
Speaker 3: the ground.
Speaker 5: But the quarterback came back. He went to the right
Speaker 5: and then he came back through the pocket.
Speaker 3: Was in the pocket right, Uh. And then the one
Speaker 3: on the ground, the guy was was shoving wheat into
Speaker 3: the ground and kept pushing them down. And finally he
Speaker 3: went like this the guy, Yeah, but you get it.
Speaker 6: You get an infraction as you're on the ground. Yeah,
Speaker 6: your head's in the ground. You hit someone.
Speaker 4: He got it.
Speaker 3: And the guy from center field through the flag, by
Speaker 3: the way, and then the other one on Donovan Wilson.
Speaker 3: I don't know if the whistle blew, but they ruled
Speaker 3: him out of bounds, but he was in the air
Speaker 3: still reaching.
Speaker 4: It wasn't it wasn't at all to gain right.
Speaker 3: Because because they would have marked the ball right, he
Speaker 3: didn't know he had.
Speaker 4: Went out of bounds. Yeah, come on, look like you're
Speaker 4: still in bounce.
Speaker 3: But you know, all the talk before the game was, well,
Speaker 3: they're going to play the Steelers, and this is Steeler
Speaker 3: football and they're tough and they're physical, right, and then
Speaker 3: the Cowboys got penalies for being too tough. I thought
Speaker 3: they they did a good job of setting the tone
Speaker 3: up there.
Speaker 6: I was so proud that to me, as sloppy as
Speaker 6: it was, you can come out with all these narratives.
Speaker 6: That was the most satisfying win that I've had in
Speaker 6: a long time because it was the Steelers.
Speaker 4: It was the Stealers. You know.
Speaker 6: That goes back to the seventies when when I was
Speaker 6: at Grambling.
Speaker 4: And yeah, before you even played for the Cowboys.
Speaker 6: They ended up beating the Cowboys twice in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: Everybody's knocking on my door because they hated the Cowboys
Speaker 6: in Grambling country, so I was all alone. Those two
Speaker 6: brings back so many bad memories. So this is extremely satisfying,
Speaker 6: and I like the way we did it. You know,
Speaker 6: we showed some guts. Yeah, adversually, no big deal. You know,
Speaker 6: we're still hanging in there. You can see the kind
Speaker 6: of especially on Dak's face. You can see the determination
Speaker 6: that he had like this, but this is we're not
Speaker 6: going to just let this game go by and be casual.
Speaker 6: Our efforts and how we try to do things. You
Speaker 6: saw a sense of urgency the entire game. The defense
Speaker 6: gave us the chances that we needed, which is wow,
Speaker 6: welcome to the NFL.
Speaker 4: Our defense is giving us chances to make plays, stop
Speaker 4: the run exactly.
Speaker 6: So here we are acting like a grown up, big
Speaker 6: boy defensive squad, you know. And it's something that shows
Speaker 6: in the results of the game because now we have
Speaker 6: a chance for five minutes ago maybe for something to
Speaker 6: drive it on down the field.
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Speaker 5: fifty six of this game. As the Cowboys fell behind
Speaker 5: seventeen to thirteen after the shovel pass to Pat Fryermuth
Speaker 5: gave the Steelers the lead.
Speaker 3: That was a good call by it was.
Speaker 4: It was a good call because, as.
Speaker 5: Babel Offenburg said on the broadcast, I think Brad said,
Speaker 5: I was driving home at the time, and so I
Speaker 5: was not watching it as it happened, and I was
Speaker 5: listening to Brad and Babe, and Brad said that was
Speaker 5: a good call, just like you did. Babe said, you know,
Speaker 5: it was a good call, Brad said, because it worked.
Speaker 3: No, you know why, it was because they didn't trust
Speaker 3: fields the throat.
Speaker 4: By the way, why that was.
Speaker 5: Before we get into the four fifty six left in
Speaker 5: the game, soon before Russell Wilson becomes the new starting quarterback.
Speaker 4: Well, I thought at the Raiders.
Speaker 3: This week, I thought when we knocked him out that
Speaker 3: I said, Oh, Russell Wilson's got to come in. I
Speaker 3: forgot he was inactive and he was the third quarterback.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So and Alan, by the way, right away, Allan, it's like, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 5: what did you do? Okay, good thing, I didn't have
Speaker 5: to face that guy.
Speaker 4: I thought that was kind of weird, right to take
Speaker 4: him out of the game. Yeah, that didn't bode well
Speaker 4: for justin going forward.
Speaker 5: So what stood out more than anything, outside of the
Speaker 5: obvious exclamation point the touchdown pass to Tolbert to concluded,
Speaker 5: what stood out more than anything on that final.
Speaker 3: To me was that they didn't panic and throw throw throw.
Speaker 3: They ended up running for twenty five yards of the
Speaker 3: seventy on that drive, and that kept their defense, at
Speaker 3: least at Bay, that they couldn't just tee off and
Speaker 3: get after Dak and after Dak that they had to
Speaker 3: worry about ric O'Donnell running for a career high eighty
Speaker 3: seven yards, so I thought that was significant. And when
Speaker 3: he had to throw for some reason, the offensive line
Speaker 3: came alive. Although they were going a lot of two
Speaker 3: tight end, three tight end full back, which I thought
Speaker 3: they should have done the whole game. Don't leave still
Speaker 3: out there with what don't let guys out there with
Speaker 3: her big all by himself. But I guess you can't
Speaker 3: double both sides right at some point, you know, you
Speaker 3: got to play football. So that's what stood out to me.
Speaker 6: I got to What stood out to me was just
Speaker 6: how every player came in and did his job.
Speaker 4: It was so old school, you know, when we talked Friday.
Speaker 6: I was on some show previously and talked about the
Speaker 6: pessimism of the media and how they think about Oh
Speaker 6: guy's practice player, so that's why he's a practice player. Well,
Speaker 6: you have some practice players out there. They came out
Speaker 6: there the playball. They did their job, and they did
Speaker 6: it very well. The pressure that was put on fields,
Speaker 6: I know they'd get too many sacks, but they got
Speaker 6: a lot of hits on him.
Speaker 4: You know, they made him think. They didn't make them comfortable.
Speaker 6: They stopped the run from a pretty good running back.
Speaker 6: That's a pretty good running back that they were taken
Speaker 6: down last night. So when you look at how what
Speaker 6: they could have done and what a lot of people
Speaker 6: expected us to do going through those kind of trials
Speaker 6: and tribulations, I think there was a big win as
Speaker 6: a team. It was a big win as a team.
Speaker 6: I would pick if I was going to say the
Speaker 6: core of that win last night, I would just say
Speaker 6: trenches both sides offensively and defensively.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 5: The final drive reminded me of twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4: Dak's first year as a.
Speaker 5: Quarterback out There were a couple of well, one of
Speaker 5: them was the Pittsburgh game, but prior to that, the
Speaker 5: Green Bay game where he took the ball late in
Speaker 5: the first half, backed up his own five yard line,
Speaker 5: they drove ninety five yards for a touchdown as a
Speaker 5: rookie quarterback in this league. Now obviously he's not a
Speaker 5: rookie quarterback anymore, but this is a rookie team, you know,
Speaker 5: basically practice and for them to and then and of
Speaker 5: course in the Zeke had the touchdown run. They came
Speaker 5: back in that game after getting hitt in the mouth
Speaker 5: with a fake spike with forty two seconds left and
Speaker 5: won that game. Well, this time they had to do it,
Speaker 5: as you said, in the trenches, and they had to
Speaker 5: against a tough football team, had to out tough them
Speaker 5: down the stretch. And what stood out for me, the
Speaker 5: moment that will I think will be the lasting memory
Speaker 5: for me from that was the little Dak and t J.
Speaker 4: Watt exchange.
Speaker 5: Down on the goal line where I guess it was.
Speaker 4: Was it the past to lip key? Yes, it was.
Speaker 4: It was right, It was that I wrote. They were
Speaker 4: marching down to get inside the so TJ.
Speaker 5: Watt is bearing down on Dak from the backside and
Speaker 5: he is able to dump it off the lip Key
Speaker 5: who goes eighteen yards to the four yard line.
Speaker 4: And then the great job by NBC.
Speaker 5: To get the shots of Dak smiling at TJ after that,
Speaker 5: and it just was.
Speaker 6: I don't even think it was a smile. I think
Speaker 6: it was a sneer, but it was.
Speaker 4: You can tell it. It was like a trash talking.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know that's what take that.
Speaker 4: It showed. It showed the competitiveness of Dak and we
Speaker 4: know TJ. Wats the same way.
Speaker 5: We couldn't see Watt's face what he was doing back
Speaker 5: to Dak But I just love that. And it was
Speaker 5: and it was a confidence that, hey, we're going to
Speaker 5: win this game.
Speaker 4: That was it. That was it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like were they basically telling we're taking
Speaker 6: this game.
Speaker 4: It's like Magic Johnson on the basketball.
Speaker 5: You know, he's smiling the whole time. He's beating you right,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: And and that's the one of the benefits of you
Speaker 3: guys getting to watch the game on TV because we're
Speaker 3: watching it live. And unfortunately, and by the way, this
Speaker 3: is no shot at the PR department for the Steelers,
Speaker 3: because they did a hell of a job. Not only
Speaker 3: did the rain storm knock the game off, it knocked
Speaker 3: the Wi Fi out, and they came and gave people
Speaker 3: on social media a hard hard wire into their Wi
Speaker 3: Fi system, but the TVs in the press box were
Speaker 3: a game play behind, so you couldn't sit there and go, oh,
Speaker 3: let me see what happened. What the game started, right?
Speaker 3: And that's we missed those.
Speaker 4: Types of things because you're watching the next play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the next plays already started, right. But yeah, I've
Speaker 3: been saying with everybody so involved with watching what the
Speaker 3: sideline is going on on the bench, It's almost like
Speaker 3: you need a bench camera to pick up the because
Speaker 3: you know right away they got uh c D talking
Speaker 3: to himself on the sideline.
Speaker 4: Is he talking to himself or was he talking to
Speaker 4: the quarterback?
Speaker 3: I think he was talking to himself.
Speaker 10: Okay, I think the quarterbit well he was.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 3: If you go back and watch the rout his there
Speaker 3: was no real intention when he kept running because he
Speaker 3: turned around like, oh, yeah, that's what it was.
Speaker 5: To me, it looked like it looked like his body
Speaker 5: language running the route was he didn't expect the ball
Speaker 5: to be and.
Speaker 3: That also did not Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, if you
Speaker 3: want to go back to that drive, but hey, give
Speaker 3: Tolbert credit because he could have. He could have.
Speaker 4: You got the quote from Tyler Smith.
Speaker 3: I heard about it.
Speaker 4: I don't have it. You keep talking, then I'll let He.
Speaker 3: Could have got called for a pick because they crossed right. Yes,
Speaker 3: whoever was going to the left and he ducked under.
Speaker 3: And it was funny because one of the ladies upstairs said, oh,
Speaker 3: I was so worried that he was going to end
Speaker 3: up on the other side of the goal line. But
Speaker 3: he got away from that and went around him and
Speaker 3: was able to continue going across. You can't use it.
Speaker 10: Huh, why don't you just give me, give me the
Speaker 10: gist of it?
Speaker 4: Here you go, Mickey, you haven't. You haven't seen the quote.
Speaker 4: There it is.
Speaker 3: I heard something.
Speaker 5: You clean it up and you can express it. I
Speaker 5: like your reactions to it as much as anything I heard.
Speaker 4: I heard that he was it was miraculous. I mean
Speaker 4: JT literally sprained his lower anatomy. Excuse me, sorry, guys,
Speaker 4: spray his lower anatomy.
Speaker 5: The play before comes back makes the game winner unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Clean it up for you, yeah, because that the play
Speaker 3: before was the low pass back in the end. No,
Speaker 3: I think he was talking about. I think he was
Speaker 3: talking about his effort to come back and get the
Speaker 3: ball with us, because I think so by the way
Speaker 3: they thought he was going to have to come out
Speaker 3: of the game, Well.
Speaker 4: He was coming out of the game, right.
Speaker 5: And then the Steelers called time out, which gave him
Speaker 5: time to recover from his spring.
Speaker 3: And then the Cowboys. The Cowboys called time out, right.
Speaker 3: I think Mike called it a Kodak time out, like
Speaker 3: you want to see what the defense is doing. And
Speaker 3: I said, Dak, how many times did you uh, when
Speaker 3: we were walking towards the charter or the bus. How
Speaker 3: many times did you change that play? And he goes twice,
Speaker 3: so they had to play. Pittsburgh called time out and
Speaker 3: then they had another play. Yeah, and that's why they
Speaker 3: called time out.
Speaker 4: He said, that's one of their favorite go to plays. Yeah,
Speaker 4: huh yeah, and that's a good idea.
Speaker 11: The first person to call time out was Dallas, right, Okay,
Speaker 11: so he saw what happened.
Speaker 3: He was in there for the first play.
Speaker 11: Okay, they called time out, and then Floordin goes in
Speaker 11: the game, okay, he and then they break the huddle
Speaker 11: Floyd and goes the wrong way.
Speaker 3: Seriously because they sit him on the other side.
Speaker 11: And then they the uh the Steelers called time out,
Speaker 11: and that's when Tolbert came back in the game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I wanted to check on, which to
Speaker 5: see if Tolbert was in the game after the Cowboys initials.
Speaker 4: No, he was not.
Speaker 5: That's what got Yes, the Steelers time out got Tolbert
Speaker 5: on the feet.
Speaker 3: That is correct, because when I saw eighty right is
Speaker 3: it or.
Speaker 4: Floor is yep?
Speaker 3: Eighty yes, correct, I saw him in the game. I'm going,
Speaker 3: oh my, just like that yeah, on this play.
Speaker 5: Because you saw how injured Tolbert was when he got up.
Speaker 5: You could tell he needed some time.
Speaker 3: And you know, and on that he was about ten
Speaker 3: yards from me and he couldn't walk.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, that's crazy, man, that's really crazy.
Speaker 3: And give the offensive line credit for because that was
Speaker 3: a slow development play, right, It took a while.
Speaker 4: He had to float. He had to kind of float
Speaker 4: back a little bit.
Speaker 5: By the way, Tomlin could have used that time out
Speaker 5: when they got the ball back with twenty seconds left
Speaker 5: to be able to throw to the middle of the
Speaker 5: field and be able to call a time out.
Speaker 4: Well, oh that's right, Justhin Fields was playing quarterback.
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Speaker 3: By the way, on NFL Network, they're talking about game
Speaker 3: balls for I Guess, Jacksonville, dak Rico and Mike McCarthy
Speaker 3: got game balls. Really and McCarthy said it was the
Speaker 3: first one he's ever gotten in his head coaching career. Really, yeah,
Speaker 3: I said, I don't recall ever getting one of these.
Speaker 5: And it looked like on Saturday night, Dak and Cooper
Speaker 5: Rush went with McCarthy to his house where's mom and
Speaker 5: dad lived, and they had a big family reunion there
Speaker 5: on Saturday night.
Speaker 4: That's cool.
Speaker 3: And there must have been when we were walking towards
Speaker 3: the bus and Dak was in front of us. McCarthy
Speaker 3: must have had about fifteen It looked like must.
Speaker 6: Oh I saw that family. Yes, yeah, I was like, man,
Speaker 6: that's Dak's family. I said, I knew that mom was white,
Speaker 6: but god, they nobody else.
Speaker 5: I swear I thought that was McCarthy's fan.
Speaker 6: Like, man, there was the brother, said somebody somebody that Dak.
Speaker 3: Said something like all right, thanks for the McCarthy's. They
Speaker 3: were all cheering and yeah, wait.
Speaker 4: Okay, Now that gives it a whole different flavor.
Speaker 5: And also that elation at the end of the game,
Speaker 5: I mean so cool. Yeah, I mean just think about
Speaker 5: aside from the homecoming from McCarthy, but just for the
Speaker 5: team and and you put so much into this and
Speaker 5: then it comes down, it comes down to one play.
Speaker 4: To decide whether all that work paid off or not.
Speaker 4: I must admit when he fumbled the ball, I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know how it happened, but a screech
Speaker 6: came out of my voice.
Speaker 4: I can't even do that now.
Speaker 6: I don't know where it came from, but I started
Speaker 6: like a little girl, and I was like, I just screamed, like.
Speaker 4: I think Chris collins Worth at that shame.
Speaker 6: Like what no, Because I was like, Okay, I'm feeling good,
Speaker 6: So saying.
Speaker 4: Feeling good, feeling good, feeling optimistic.
Speaker 6: You know, we're on the one yard line, broll, where
Speaker 6: are you going?
Speaker 3: And how close? And how close had Dak come to
Speaker 3: scoring when he ran the ball to the close?
Speaker 5: Had that come to fumbling the ball and hitting the
Speaker 5: pylon and the touch back?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think that. I thought he had that
Speaker 4: under control.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought so.
Speaker 4: I thought so too, But still.
Speaker 6: I thought he had to control the immigosi going into
Speaker 6: the intel. I knew he once he kind of let
Speaker 6: go of it that there was already.
Speaker 3: I didn't think he made it, but at least they
Speaker 3: reviewed it.
Speaker 4: It was close.
Speaker 5: Well what happened on it is by reviewing it, they
Speaker 5: moved it up to the half yard good right, which
Speaker 5: didn't matter because then Orlando Roberts came from the fifth
Speaker 5: row and knocked the ball out.
Speaker 4: Man, Come on, now, let's let's talk about this. Okay.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I must have called that man so
Speaker 4: many names I saw. Follow your blocker, yes, follow him.
Speaker 3: Because Lipke had a hole there.
Speaker 4: He sealed the guy. He would have sealed six.
Speaker 6: And you had a big, deep, big offensive lineman on
Speaker 6: the on the corner back he wasn't going there. Well,
Speaker 6: you couldn't even see the defensive back. He was swallowed up.
Speaker 6: The hole was right out there. Sometimes you just think
Speaker 6: too much.
Speaker 3: We had just think too much a teaching moment. Yes
Speaker 3: we did, Yes we did. But Dak just the reaction
Speaker 3: immediately to dive for them.
Speaker 4: He might scream too, like that was crazy.
Speaker 13: Babelfenberg on the radio broadcast says, he says, as a quarterback,
Speaker 13: you need always follow the play because if you follow it,
Speaker 13: if something like that happens, you have the ability to
Speaker 13: jump on the He did a good job of following
Speaker 13: the plays.
Speaker 5: Like a picture in baseball, you got to back up bases,
Speaker 5: you know, I.
Speaker 6: Mean, but you know you gotta you can't help but
Speaker 6: follow it because that's the moment. You know, you're looking
Speaker 6: for that to go ahead and ice it.
Speaker 4: So he didn't. He had no choice but to follow it.
Speaker 4: But he did just follow it.
Speaker 11: He reacted, well, some some quarter young quarterbacks run away
Speaker 11: from the play to create six That's right.
Speaker 5: That's a case where you you don't want to carry out.
Speaker 6: Oh man, I was like only us. I just sat
Speaker 6: there like only us. We are the only ones that
Speaker 6: can do this. You're talking about being snake bit, right,
Speaker 6: that that would have been being snake bit. I mean,
Speaker 6: just give me a break.
Speaker 3: Man, especially after he had run run so well.
Speaker 4: That's what all these names that he didn't deserve it.
Speaker 5: Okay, we've we've talked about a number of players. Here,
Speaker 5: give me one more player that we haven't talked about
Speaker 5: that we need to mention on this show. We haven't
Speaker 5: talked about over the last forty five minutes. But we
Speaker 5: need to mention his name because of how well he
Speaker 5: played Wilson domin Wilson Okay.
Speaker 3: Because they were using him close to the line of
Speaker 3: scrimmage runs.
Speaker 4: Uh Okay, that's a good one.
Speaker 3: I thought they were going to pick pick on him.
Speaker 3: They tried, and he held his right, ended up with
Speaker 3: four tackles, didn't fall down trying to cover, didn't give awareness.
Speaker 4: He was right there. He played like a veteran. He
Speaker 4: played well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he played his age, but he didn't play
Speaker 6: his experience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my guy is Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 3: And also that absolutely.
Speaker 4: That's my dude. That's they don't they don't win that game.
Speaker 3: I don't think Jake us six six for seventy seventy.
Speaker 4: I think that needs to go to him even more.
Speaker 5: You know, Mike Tomlin a week ago last Tuesday at
Speaker 5: it was press conference, he mentioned two players on the
Speaker 5: Cowboys team that stood out to him beyond the others,
Speaker 5: and one was Dak and the other was Jake Ferguson. Man,
Speaker 5: and U did you see the the It wasn't just
Speaker 5: a chip on that last play when he did.
Speaker 4: To t J. Watt. No, I didn't he let him
Speaker 4: have it, t J Watt. TJ Watt was not getting
Speaker 4: to the quarterback on that play. I have to take
Speaker 4: a look at that.
Speaker 5: And you know what I thought, he I mean, that's
Speaker 5: it and that's a Wisconsin guy. He plays jhnsin on
Speaker 5: Wisconsin Crime.
Speaker 3: He played well, he played well. They had him eight
Speaker 3: tackles TJ. Yeah, okay, I thought that was a little extreme.
Speaker 4: Well you thought they gave him too many?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was a little home cooking there. Well,
Speaker 3: you know who the Atlanta used to do that with
Speaker 3: the the middle linebacker they had like five eight years ago.
Speaker 3: Every game he ended up with twelve to fifteen tackles.
Speaker 3: And one time I'm at the game and I'm going, okay,
Speaker 3: I see it's like everything the guy sniffed, that's a tackle, right,
Speaker 3: he gets an assistance.
Speaker 4: So like it's the same person that does the yeah, right,
Speaker 4: the stats for the well.
Speaker 3: When they're announcing it in the press box, you know
Speaker 3: that that becomes official.
Speaker 4: That was huge. He needed that chip too. He watched it.
Speaker 6: He needed that chip too. Tyler was having he was
Speaker 6: coming that Tyler. He was coming to Titler fast. He
Speaker 6: still came out and fast. And like you said, side
Speaker 6: slow developing play, Terence slow developing, slow developing play, and
Speaker 6: they needed that chip.
Speaker 4: Ferguson tried to hit him so hard he fell down.
Speaker 5: That was the first thing I saw on that point
Speaker 5: I was watching TJ and then yeah and Ferguson that
Speaker 5: was that was a little hidden well being able to
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 3: It goes back to what you said from the start.
Speaker 3: At some point guys need to do their job, make
Speaker 3: a play, and they did and that's how you overcome
Speaker 3: all the stuff.
Speaker 6: It's like Bill said the other day, the Cowboys are
Speaker 6: littered with people like Downs myself and Cliffs and Drew
Speaker 6: Pearson and littered.
Speaker 4: With undrafted guys just stepping up.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I mean, it's it ain't easy,
Speaker 6: but you know, you're just not gonna automatically say I
Speaker 6: have to be a certain way and you know what,
Speaker 6: And that's what those guys believed last night when they
Speaker 6: were putting the pressure on Justin Fields. I saw a
Speaker 6: bunch of hungry guys ready to play, I mean, controlling
Speaker 6: the game in a situation that I know had to
Speaker 6: be foreign to them.
Speaker 5: And we'll see when the injured guys get back from
Speaker 5: UH and hopefully Parsons will be back this week. But
Speaker 5: from Brandon Cooks to Dron Bland to d Law will
Speaker 5: see when he hits back. But this Cowboys team is
Speaker 5: going to be better for what they're going through right
Speaker 5: now because of the young guys, and this offense is
Speaker 5: better now than what it was before last night because
Speaker 5: of what Cavante Turpin did, what Jalen Tolbert did, And
Speaker 5: it's there's a and it's it's easier to be excited
Speaker 5: about the team because they completed the past October to
Speaker 5: win that game. It'd be tougher if they went in
Speaker 5: complete or whatever. But you can really see where you.
Speaker 6: Can still have the same narrative defensively and also in
Speaker 6: the trenches, no matter what would have happened when he
Speaker 6: come back.
Speaker 4: And beat Detroit this week, not two and four, going severed.
Speaker 3: Well, and you know what, Yeah, that's right, Jerry. Jerry
Speaker 3: kept pointing that out, by the way, that exact thing
Speaker 3: that these young guys getting snaps now will pay dividends
Speaker 3: down the road. And just think about the experience they're
Speaker 3: getting and they got an opportunity. And you know, by
Speaker 3: the way, I was going to point this out very silently,
Speaker 3: Moseley Smith had four more. Yes, yes he did, and
Speaker 3: he was battling in there.
Speaker 6: But it kind of like this, like he is a
Speaker 6: he's a totally different person exactly. I don't even recognize
Speaker 6: his body. I don't recognize his footwork. I don't recognize
Speaker 6: his speed and aggression. I don't even know who this
Speaker 6: guy is. He is totally different from last year. And
Speaker 6: that's to a positive. Yeah, but that's that just lets
Speaker 6: you know how why they drafted him. That's why they
Speaker 6: drafted him. This is what we wanted to see and
Speaker 6: to me, to see that, to see that that huge
Speaker 6: advance to be made, you don't see that very often.
Speaker 4: There's there's so much more.
Speaker 5: There's so much more than just playing football that goes
Speaker 5: into a person's development to be.
Speaker 4: Able to play in this league, you know, and we
Speaker 4: see it with Jalen Tolbert. He wasn't ready two years ago.
Speaker 4: It's a maturity. It's a even without that catch, he
Speaker 4: had a great game.
Speaker 5: It's an understanding that you belong. You know, it's intimidating
Speaker 5: coming into a situation. Never one will ever admit it,
Speaker 5: but it's myself. I remember, Uh, my first TV job
Speaker 5: was in Lubbock. Is it college town? There's recent college
Speaker 5: grads that are my coworkers whatever, and then I go
Speaker 5: to San Antonio and the newsroom totally different. These are
Speaker 5: people that are ten years older than me that have
Speaker 5: families and stuff.
Speaker 4: It's intimidating going into that environment. So you're a college
Speaker 4: kid coming into.
Speaker 5: The NFL and you got ten year veterans whatever, it's
Speaker 5: a totally different thing that you've ever seen before. That's
Speaker 5: why it beyond the game of football. It can be.
Speaker 5: It can take some time for guys to.
Speaker 6: Develop, but development has to come from knowledge. He knows
Speaker 6: what he's doing now, and so you can step quicker
Speaker 6: and with confidence.
Speaker 4: And that's the look that you see right now.
Speaker 3: And that's how Tolbert's plan exactly. Dak must have talked
Speaker 3: a couple of minutes about his development from when he
Speaker 3: got there. We're talking, you know, we don't think about it.
Speaker 3: Third round draft choice, get out there. Yeah, South Alabama, right, and.
Speaker 5: Who, by the way, took about three years at South
Speaker 5: Alabama before he was making plays At Alabama.
Speaker 4: He was a best ball Okay, well I did not
Speaker 4: know that.
Speaker 3: And so, uh and now look what he's done, you know,
Speaker 3: and Dak pointed out, he goes, he understood what you
Speaker 3: have to do in the off season. Uh, he goes.
Speaker 3: Anytime I called and said I'm throwing, he's there, right,
Speaker 3: didn't matter when.
Speaker 4: He's filling out, you know, right, and you.
Speaker 3: Can see he's got some speed too by the way
Speaker 3: he left them people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's good his strength. But and finally with this
Speaker 5: the thing that's exciting about it too. You saw what
Speaker 5: the Packers did a couple of years ago where they
Speaker 5: drafted a whole bunch of wide receivers and tight ends
Speaker 5: in the second and third round, fourth fifth round of
Speaker 5: the draft. They made a concerted effort to draft these guys.
Speaker 4: And so when you've.
Speaker 5: Got young receivers and tight ends that are into the mix,
Speaker 5: it's okay. It's a competitive situation wherever body the cream
Speaker 5: rises to the top. We're now and with a team
Speaker 5: like the Cowboys. One of the reasons I think that
Speaker 5: Marti Cooper was traded away was with Cooper here, other
Speaker 5: guys were not going to get an opportunity to develop.
Speaker 4: CD was not gonna c D needed to be the time.
Speaker 4: It's the same way now.
Speaker 5: Okay, Brandon cooks and hopefully Brandon gets back soon, but
Speaker 5: he's out for a month now. These young guys will
Speaker 5: have the opportunity to step up, much like what the
Speaker 5: Packers did by intentionally by drafting and clearing out their room, a.
Speaker 4: Veteran creating that environment of competition and youth.
Speaker 3: And which they did for Tolbert by not bringing back
Speaker 3: Michael Gallop. It was like, look at the opportunity I got,
Speaker 3: and he seems to be taking advantage of it.
Speaker 5: All right, out of time, and maybe we'll spend another
Speaker 5: day rehashing Sunday night.
Speaker 4: I just I justa.
Speaker 3: Was so tired of narrative about this as a soft team.
Speaker 3: They don't play hard, they don't play physical. And then
Speaker 3: they went to the Steel City and.
Speaker 4: Were and then then this was wrung with Justin Fields
Speaker 4: steel working.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly. I heard somebody say it today coming
Speaker 3: It's like, well but this isn't Detroit. Well when they
Speaker 3: feat the Giants, well this isn't Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: And now look at what the giants.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, enjoy your victory Monday, and we will
Speaker 5: see you again on Tuesday at noon.
Speaker 4: Go Cowboys.
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